Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
iPhone;548613 Wrote: > > Have you thought about building a small Atom MB Vortexbox OS dedicated > Server or trying a SheevaPlug? Using a SheevPlug gets all the TinySC > missing items back for about the energy signature of having another > Touch running. I remember reading about the sheevaplug but I don't think I can find one where I live. Other than that I have been running a server on my main desktop computer for the SB3 classic - I guess I'll just keep it running if there are not significant improvements implemented in the SBS. tcutting;548613 Wrote: > > Examples of additional plugins would be erlands "custom clock" which > could allow you to at least create some screens with higher > contrast/larger fonts. Yeah, I've read something about that. Is there a tutorial for making that work? Meanwhile I'll keep hoping that any of the developers will read this and implement a high contrast UI that's readable across the room. Thanks for the input! -- leadc4ge Main Hi-Fi system. Amp: Totem Acoustics Amber Speakers: Totem Acoustics Hawk. Source: Squeezebox Touch Extras: XTZ Sub Amp 1 DSP, Two XTZ 99W12.18P subs. Cabling by Supra. leadc4ge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
sckramer;548785 Wrote: > What about the screen off screensaver... Did you try that & hear > differences? I'd prefer that over ripping out the screen The screen off screensaver just turns off the backlight, it doesn't turn off the clock and sync sugnals to the display. I could not hear any difference when the screen off screensaver kicked in. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
> Hi Michael, just like to confirm that everything seems to be working > fine now Good to hear, thanks! > (had to restore factory settings as artwork wasn't > displaying) Most often this is a temporary issue. Factory reset shouldn't be required. Did you try stopping/starting the server only? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
JohnSwenson;548038 Wrote: > Yesterday I opened mine up again and tried running without the display > at all (physically removed, no connections at all). > > Wow! This made a significant improvement. Way more spaciousness, room > ambience etc. Everything sounds more organic, full bodied etc. > > Of course there are some problems, you can't initialize the Touch from > startup or after a factory reset without the display. You also need the > display to turn on remote login. Once you have remote login working you > can do almost everything else, albeit you have to edit configuration > files for most of them. > > After hearing what it sounds like without the display its hard to go > back! > > This was through the analog outs, It did make some difference on the > digital out but not as much as it did on the analog outs. This was with > a Peachtree Nova which uses the Sabre DAC which is fairly immune to > variances in digital ins, so it might be a bigger difference on other > DACs. > > While it was open I decided to try bypassing the output caps. Again > this made an improvement. Not nearly as big an improvement as taking > out the display but still definitely there. > > As a reference, with the caps bypassed and the display removed the > analog outs are now better than the DAC in the Nova. I was listening to > the Touch driving the Nova both over coax and analog. Listening to the > preamp outs of the nova. The analog from the Touch was definitely > better. And that had an extra set of interconnects as well. > > So the Touch with a linear supply, no display and output caps bypassed > is a REALLY good DAC. > > John S. What about the screen off screensaver... Did you try that & hear differences? I'd prefer that over ripping out the screen -- sckramer Sb touch - PSaudio DL3 (Cullen level 3) - PSaudio Trio C-100 (Cullen level 3) - energy veritas 2.2i - Martin Logan descent -- PSaudio ac3 power cables - psaudio duet - cardas quadlink 5 interconnect -- Transparent digital cable (1.5m) - audio quest slate spkr cables biwire sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] internal server doesn't finish the scan
Are you still on the orginal software? Hang in there - I think that 7.5.1 will soon be out with a bunch of corrections. I have noticed several users having problems scanning larger collections.. 30.000++. As they describe it: using SQLite scan takes forever. But I just noticed yesterday that someone tried latest 7.6 with SQLite for the 3-4 time and this time it worked like a charm. So it appears that the latest SCAN checkins have had a effect ;-) Hmm actually it was about pre-caching http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78430 -- slate Main: Duet -> Beresford Caiman -> Carver A-500x -> B&W 704 Office: Duet -> Technics SU-V50 -> Stax SR84 Pro Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7 w. 7.6 (SQLite) slate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can I hookup alt qKarnal hard drive directly to the Touch?
thunder3dan;548761 Wrote: > I would like to hook my external hard drive directly to the touch, is > this possible or does it only accept USB flash drives? > > Thanks! It accepts hard drives as well. Make sure the drive has sufficient power: some drives demand more than the USB specs allow them to do, so if it takes external power it would be best to use it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78946 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Can I hookup alt qKarnal hard drive directly to the Touch?
I would like to hook my external hard drive directly to the touch, is this possible or does it only accept USB flash drives? Thanks! -- thunder3dan thunder3dan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37821 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78946 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
Hi Michael, just like to confirm that everything seems to be working fine now (had to restore factory settings as artwork wasn't displaying). I think the Touch is a fantastic device and even better now that I don't need to manually switch to mysb.com Napster etc. Thanks, Chris -- Chris61 Chris61's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
Also have to resist some urge... For no compromise, try battery supply. I don't know if there is something established to get 5V, either a linear regulator, or 4*1.2V NiMH cells will get you close. Only loosely related praise: I've measured the digital out of the SBT, and can say it's the best I've ever seen. Crisp edges, perfectly aligned and perfectly crossing each other at 50%, eye pattern can't be more open. I can't measure jitter, but from the looks I can imagine it is small. I read the circuit has extra discrete flipflops to reclock the outputs. Very nice! -- [IDC]Dragon [IDC]Dragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Avoid Spin down on a WD digital Passport, HOW?
jwo;548608 Wrote: > The usb hd works flawless with my macbook and worked flawless with a > windows pc running Squeezecenter, no problems whatsoever. No spin down > issues. > > Its only with the Touch. > > :( It may be disconnecting it may not, I still haven't seen a log file from the time when the drive spins down. There are also some other things to look at. I'll go into details in the other thread with the details. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] internal server doesn't finish the scan
[IDC]Dragon wrote: > pfarrell;548727 Wrote: >> Yeah, its too much data. >> Poor little thang just can't count that high. > Seriously? Is it 16 bit? ;-) Not literally, but you've got too much data. You will be happier with a real server > I have a server (it's not my first squeezebox). > The idea was to be able to have it mobile, therefore the premium for > the large 2.5" disk. > Would it be possible to export the indexing of the real server to the > poor small box, if it can't handle the scan? Possible, anything is possible. But I don't expect it. Its "TinySC" its not a real full blown implementation of SqueezeBoxCenter. The Touch works great on a big thumb drive, and thats really mobile. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] internal server doesn't finish the scan
pfarrell;548727 Wrote: > Yeah, its too much data. > Poor little thang just can't count that high. Seriously? Is it 16 bit? ;-) > > Get an old free PC and put a real server on it. > You'll be happy I have a server (it's not my first squeezebox). The idea was to be able to have it mobile, therefore the premium for the large 2.5" disk. Would it be possible to export the indexing of the real server to the poor small box, if it can't handle the scan? -- [IDC]Dragon [IDC]Dragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] internal server doesn't finish the scan
...Interesting, isn't it, how Logitech's website detailing the Touch's feature states, and I quote verbatim: "It doesnt matter if your library includes 100 tracks or 100,000." and "You can access music and pictures stored on flash drives and memory cards." I've paid over half a grand for two SBTs, and so far, as the posts on the forum reflect, my experiences have been mixed, leaving me largely disappointed at the SBT's poor stability in normal use. Time for Logitech to amend the website wording? I live in the hope that FW updates beyond 7.6 (no substantial improvement sadly from 7.5) render a better, more stable hardware. -- SomersetGuy SomersetGuy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
LOL, sounds like you've been there before. Thanks for your advice. The only reason I asked is because the noise floor when the music is very quiet seems to be zero as is. I will give it a try. See if I can squeeze the last little bit of quality out of what to me is an amazing device already. -- Flashgordon400 Flashgordon400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
I never even thought to use the remote (it's still in the box with no batteries installed!). Luckily I've got a Boom remote handy so I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help. Chris. -- Chris61 Chris61's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
must resist urge To answer your question yes assume it has the same power requirements as a CD Player. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] internal server doesn't finish the scan
[IDC]Dragon wrote: > Setup: The disk is a 1TB 2.5" WD Passport, almost full with mp3 and > flac, about 100.000 files. Folders can be large, not with files, but > with subdirs, the largest has about 1200 subdirs. > > Am I doing something unreasonable? Yeah, its too much data. Poor little thang just can't count that high. Get an old free PC and put a real server on it. You'll be happy -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] internal server doesn't finish the scan
Poor little thing... So far, it didn't manage to finish a full indexing run. I've tried it "only" twice (because it takes forever, about 2 days). It is pretty mistaken about its ETC, that time estimation gets heavily extended as it goes along. I did follow the instructions I saw here: power it up without disk, let it settle for a while, connect the disk, watch only the progress and don't touch it for the next days. Symptom: The first quick run works fine, then it does a second, more thorough run. That gets slower towards the end and finally the server gets terminated. The screen shows a rather generic error message, something like "local server was terminated because of a problem". The disk is was spun down. Of course I wasn't around to see it happen, only the result. Setup: The disk is a 1TB 2.5" WD Passport, almost full with mp3 and flac, about 100.000 files. Folders can be large, not with files, but with subdirs, the largest has about 1200 subdirs. Am I doing something unreasonable? I could imagine somebody with a 2TB 3.5" drive (or even a raid) full of low bitrate mp3s giving that internal server way more stress than I do... Is there some kind of diagnostic I can help with? Thanks! -- [IDC]Dragon [IDC]Dragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
> 7.5.1 r877. I then reconnected to TinySC on the Touch and checked My > Apps - it seemed to work! Great! > However, after a few minutes the Touch told > me there was an 'update' available of 7.5.0 r8673. I couldn't find a > way to ignore this so I then had to begin the update. However, this Just press & hold left on the remote to break out of that update screen. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
Now we gotta DUET II (respectively a stripped down Touch) at 3 times the price of a Duet receiver. I am asking myself - who is the actual winner in that game? I am wondering if Logitech guys are reading this. It must be frustrating for these guys - at least for the technicians. I mean, this discussion sounds like pretty bad press to me. Just to summarize what's being said over here - the message is: "Take out everything what makes a Touch a Touch. The community will be more than happy about it - at least the ones who look for great soundquality. There is no way that you can go back once you're done with the tweaks." --- Dear Logitech. Pleeease - build a DUET II - no frills. Half the size of the old DUET should be possible. You might even skip Wifi (or built in a switch to turn it completely off), since Wifi messes with the sound anyhow. Just focus on sound quality. You might think of an I2S output. (I am not asking for USB on purpose) . And 24/192. Stay with 5V on the DC side. We'll take care on the linear supply.You might consider GBIT ethernet. If the quality is good enough you'll be able to sell it at 199$ and probably come out with an even better margin than you'll see with the Touch. For sure you'll have much less trouble compared to the Touch, with such a product. And for sure you'd turn the traditional "High-End-Audio" world upside down, with such a product. ;) TX for listening. Best regards SC -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
As a big believer and user of high quality power cords for the rest of my HiFi / AV system, my question is, would a descent power corded socket make any difference to a device that produces Zero's and One's as a signal. This is not an invite for a debate about power cords. Done that and got shot down in flames within about 4 hours of placing my opinion on a different forum from this one of course. I presume this is in effect, the same as a CD transport as I am using the digital coaxial output. -- Flashgordon400 Flashgordon400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
I think I solved the problem above by unplugging the Touch, plugging it back in nad then quickly doing a software 'update' to 7.5.0 via the menu. However, I would still like to keep 7.5.1! -- Chris61 Chris61's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
Hi,
I decided to have a go at running 7.5.1 firmware to see if it fixed the
issue. I installed the latest 7.5.1 Squeezebox server on my windows PC,
connected the Touch to it which then allowed me to install Firmware
7.5.1 r877. I then reconnected to TinySC on the Touch and checked My
Apps - it seemed to work! However, after a few minutes the Touch told
me there was an 'update' available of 7.5.0 r8673. I couldn't find a
way to ignore this so I then had to begin the update. However, this
failed ("There was a problem installing this update. Please try again,
or contact support"). I tried again but continually failed. So now I am
stuck with no working Touch. Is there any way I can skip the update
stage to keep running 7.5.1?
Thanks,
Chris.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
okay, just got it. -- themrock themrock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20824 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can the Touch replace a server?
There are a number of options, there is a VortexBox micro applience which is based on the fitPC2 which has a builtin 500G drive, its about 6 watts for the whole thing and about the size of your hand, no fans and the only sound is the drive itself. But its pretty expensive. You can buy a fitPC2 and put VortexBox software on it yourself. Another option is the Sheevaplug, (or the new Guruplug) $99 which has a ethernet and USB jack. You load linux and SBS on an SD card and run the plug off that. You do need an external USB drive for the music library. Of the two the fitPC2 is a more powerfull computer but costs several times more than the plug. Either of these will be a much better experience than using the Touch builtin server. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78839 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can the Touch replace a server?
TheLastMan;548649 Wrote: > I like building pooters so that would be a fun project when funds > allow. > > Unfortunately I don't have any old PCs small and quiet enough to go > where I need it. Remember that one of the advantages of the SBS design is that the server can be anywhere on your network. Mine is in a cabinet under the bar. It could just as well be out in the utility room. The real trick is efficient use of electricity to be green enough to suit your values. But that gets to be complicated when you factor in the environmental cost of building a new machine. Reuse may be much better for the environment, even if it has higher electricity costs. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78839 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
themrock;548630 Wrote: > "Not really just avoid all files in one folder" > But i have everything in 1 folder. > "Music", then an extra folder for every Album. > Not good? I meant every single file in the *same folder without subfolders* ;) some people actually do that ? dump every music file they have together without any artist album divisions in subfolders ? they love the scrollbar and watching the windows flashlight ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can the Touch replace a server?
I like building pooters so that would be a fun project when funds allow. Unfortunately I don't have any old PCs small and quiet enough to go where I need it. So I would probably try and build from scratch. I will try and find the tiniest box that can host a hard drive, 2GB of memory and a decent Atom processor. It does not need an optical drive (I have a USB one I could plug in when necessary) and all my encoding and ripping will be done on my much more powerful PC. I use my NAS mainly as a backup drive and for hosting my photos, blog and documents over the web. The SqueezeBox sever application (then SqueezeServer) was originally on my PC until I discovered SSODS, and later the Synology packaged version of SC/SBS. The NAS will be staying for all its other functions. I just need a better 24/7 host for SBS. Will take this query to the DIY forum. -- TheLastMan Matt SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) Synology Diskstation 107+ (NAS) with FW 2.2-0959 Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 on Synology Package Manager Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 access points Naim 42/110 amp, B&W CM2 speakers in living room. Denon DM37 mini-system, B&W 686 speakers in kitchen. LPs ripped using Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap, Behringer UCA202. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78839 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
themrock;548630 Wrote: > But i have everything in 1 folder. > "Music", then an extra folder for every Album. > Not good? Just a suggestion try ... Music/Genre/Artist/album/ I use general categories like Rock, Classical, Dance, Country, Pop ... etc. It turns out easier to find a particular album if you already know what your looking for. Gotta love the Touch but waiting for a better HDD support options. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
"Not really just avoid all files in one folder" But i have everything in 1 folder. "Music", then an extra folder for every Album. Not good? -- themrock themrock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20824 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
What is the total size of your library? It may be that you need the extra "power" of a dedicated server instead of the "TinySC" built into the Touch? A dedicated server brings you additional benefit of being able to run 3rd party plugins, as well as an overall "more responsive" experience if you are overloading the TinySC capability. Examples of additional plugins would be erlands "custom clock" which could allow you to at least create some screens with higher contrast/larger fonts. -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No applets found
Are you running a separate Squeezebox Server on a computer ? If not, that might be the problem. The idea is that it should work to install with just the built-in server in the Touch but I think there was a bug on MySB that resulted in that it didn't work. If this is the problem, the easiest solution is probably just to install Squeezebox Server on a computer, install the applets and then uninstall it or at least shut it down when you are finished. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=7 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
Hello and Welcome to the Forum. As to using TinySC, it is a feature of the Touch and not the Touch's primary purpose. The Touch's primary purpose is being a NMP. The other things it does are features or gravy. I have been using TinySC for about 9 months now. It does the job its meant to do, takes the place of a Server when one is not available. We should all remember that, TinySC takes the place of a dedicated server when one is not available. TinySC is also limited. Few plugins (just the ones built-in), no WebUI, playlist limited to 100, and so on. Due to limited resources, the Touch UI is going to respond slower then when using a dedicated server. This is not a 'problem' with Touch or even TinySC, it is a reality of the CPU and limited memory can only do so much so fast. Have you thought about building a small Atom MB Vortexbox OS dedicated Server or trying a SheevaPlug? Using a SheevPlug gets all the TinySC missing items back for about the energy signature of having another Touch running. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
I'm semi-guessing here but I think the point is to not have an excessive amount of files in a single folder when using FAT32 for filesystem as this will get slow due to limitations in the file system. This should not apply to NTFS-formatted harddrives. Come to think of it. I wonder if the WD MyBook is NTFS-formatted from scratch? I guess it is but I'll check it out anyhow. -- leadc4ge Main Hi-Fi system. Amp: Totem Acoustics Amber Speakers: Totem Acoustics Hawk. Source: Squeezebox Touch Extras: XTZ Sub Amp 1 DSP, Two XTZ 99W12.18P subs. Cabling by Supra. leadc4ge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Avoid Spin down on a WD digital Passport, HOW?
The usb hd works flawless with my macbook and worked flawless with a windows pc running Squeezecenter, no problems whatsoever. No spin down issues. Its only with the Touch. :( -- jwo jwo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
Not really just avoid all files in one folder, and keep an album together :) but that was not the issue here . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
"The files do you have all of them in one big folder or sorted in subfolders like music/artist/album/..." I have them ordered: HD/Music/ and then Artist A /Album A Artist A /Album B Artist B/Album A and so on. Is this a problem? Or is it better, to order them like HD/Artist A/Album A Artist A/Album B Artist B/Album A and so on? -- themrock themrock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20824 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
The default settings shipped with the server are the best, obviously. Don't over-think it and just leave it alone. :) -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
It's a bit unsorted really, but every album is at least in it's own subfolder so I'd say that every folder does not include more than 100 files and most of them only around 15 files. I have now upgraded to the newest firmware 7.6. Upon some brief testing the restarting of songs seems to have been cured. I have not heard any skipping so far either. Let's hope and pray that these issues have been fixed as they are indeed the most pressing ones. The sluggishness as described above remains pretty much the same. -- leadc4ge leadc4ge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
I take it changing the settings would make no difference for me since I'm using a Drobo plugged directly into the Touch? -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
Hmm. The files do you have all of them in one big folder or sorted in subfolders like music/artist/album/... Folders with 1's of files is always an performance issue on any OS. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch can't display Thai script
didn't work for me. It worked for the Chinese fonts. I tried downloading the Android Thai fonts and replacing FreeScan.ttf with it - it didn't work. I still get the boxes -- alvinlim alvinlim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3923 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78876 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
Hi, I had written a very long post outlining my experience with the touch and some problems, but for some reason the forums decided to crap on me. So here goes again, in shorter version: I primarily bought the SBT for the improved DAC's. The sound is easily better than my SB3 classic on my > $10k amp and speaker system. And the SB3 classic already performed admirably. So I'm happy with that, but there are some problems I bought an SB touch and also a WD MyBook 1,5 TB USB 2.0 external harddrive to house my 310 GB (12400 song mostly FLAC) song collection and to be played back via the built-in server. 1. The UI is sluggish (yes, it has completed the scanning). Navigating albums/artist is somewhat OK but it takes 10 seconds for a song to start playing after pushing play and another 5 seconds for the UI to update. Although that's just annoying the fact that every song restarts after a random amount of time makes this solution useless atm. 2. Using IPeng or Squeemote to control the built-in server is also an annoying experience. Apart from the above mentioned sluggishness an extra 15 seconds is also added for the UI in the IPhone app to update. (As you all know this is done in the blink of an eye when connected to a PC-server.) 3. The display is unreadable for me from 5 meters away (16ft) and because of this I have to resort to using the iPhone at all times to control the SBT. This is with a black background and the largest text size available. This is one area where the old SB3 classic VFD display outshine the new SBT imho. So is there hope for me? Is it likely that future revisions of the firmware or server will bring performance improvements? Are there solutions available that I'm unaware of? Do you think improvements to the readability and contrast of the display will come along? Thanks for any input you might have. //Jörgen 2. -- leadc4ge leadc4ge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Avoid Spin down on a WD digital Passport, HOW?
funkstar;548538 Wrote: > I wasn't aware of that. I presumed the drive was dropping the USB > connection on spin down which would indicate a fault with the drive. it can still be that it does that, which would be a bug in the drive fw as it probably unmounts from the OS then and TinySC is suposed to shut down when the drive is removed ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Avoid Spin down on a WD digital Passport, HOW?
JJZolx;548532 Wrote: > He's using the drive with the Touch's server. There have been numerous > reports of the server crashing or shutting down when the drive spins > down. I wasn't aware of that. I presumed the drive was dropping the USB connection on spin down which would indicate a fault with the drive. -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-funkstars-digital-lifestyle.html) - 'hexus.community' (http://forums.hexus.net/) *in use:* *1*x touch, *1*x boom, *2*x sb3, *1*x controller *in a box:* *1*x radio, *1*x (beta) controller, *1*x receiver, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) if you have any others, let me know, i'm interested!! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Avoid Spin down on a WD digital Passport, HOW?
funkstar;548528 Wrote: > Is the drive disconnecting on spin down on the Mac? Because they really > aren't supposed to do that. He's using the drive with the Touch's server. There have been numerous reports of the server crashing or shutting down when the drive spins down. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
After reading this thread, I've switched to PCM decoding and... what a difference! No placebo effect here; definitly an improvement. The sound is now richer and more 'solid sounding' The bass has improved significantly; drum kits now sound 'weighty' and solid. This Touch thingy is beginning to out-perform my (expensive) Naim CDX2 CD-player, which is worrying. Mel -- Mel-UK Mel-UK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Avoid Spin down on a WD digital Passport, HOW?
This is very strange behaviour. A drive spinning down should not drop the connection, it's the dropped connection that is causing the built in server to quit. Does a Mac make a sound when a USB drive is plugged in and then removed like Windows does? Is the drive disconnecting on spin down on the Mac? Because they really aren't supposed to do that. -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-funkstars-digital-lifestyle.html) - 'hexus.community' (http://forums.hexus.net/) *in use:* *1*x touch, *1*x boom, *2*x sb3, *1*x controller *in a box:* *1*x radio, *1*x (beta) controller, *1*x receiver, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) if you have any others, let me know, i'm interested!! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
rossb;548489 Wrote: > I have changed the settings for PCM decoding of FLAC as suggested and, > while it may be placebo effect, there seems to be a slight improvement > in sound quality through the Stello DA100 Signature DAC. It may also > just be wishful thinking. > > However, it does not seem to solve the problem on start-up of 24/96 > files, which still take a few seconds to buffer properly. Hi I changed this last night and it has cured the 24/96 stuttering for me. Which version of SBS are you using, and are you streaming from your PC or Touch? Richard -- Tripmaster Tripmaster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33519 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing Podcasts / Menu Configuration
OK, as it seems that nobody wants/can help, here is a way I found: - install Podcast Plugin - choose the plugins you want on SBS server (in the plugin's settings) - still on SBS server, add them to the favorites (I think it was in extras/podcasts) Then you can access the podcasts from the favorites menu on the SB Touch - even without having to change manually from SBS to mysqueezebox each time, incredible, that's ergonomy! I would be so glad if I knew where to find instructions on how to achieve such elementary tasks without having to try for hours every time... Patrick -- paf paf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78567 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
