Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Long Interconnect cables
mooblie;566312 Wrote: Really? I'd rather use a 20' run of speaker cable than a 20' run of unbalanced RCA/phono screened cable anyday. Well if you make sure your kit doesn't have multiple earths you avoid ground loops. As for 20' of speaker cable - depending on the speaker cable you can run into other kinds of problems involving losing power in your speaker cable. Just depends how much of a purist you are and how much you are pumping down the cable to the speakers. -- Waldo Pepper Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80799 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
I agree, the Squeezebox Radio and the Touch complement each other perfectly. I have this exact setup and I'm thrilled when I can run same or different streams of music around the house at the same time. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
Also a few question about Touch an HD: Is it necessary to let the power on for the harddisk? Or can you switch it off every evening. What happens when you want to play your music on the touch and you are forgotten to switch the harddisk on? -- mark25 mark25's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
mark25;566561 Wrote: Also a few question about Touch an HD: Is it necessary to let the power on for the harddisk? Or can you switch it off every evening. What happens when you want to play your music on the touch and you are forgotten to switch the harddisk on? No Music unless you switch to MySB.com for an Internet Stream. If one is running TinySC and the HD is off there is no access to local files/music. I don't like the current behavior of when a HD goes to sleep or is powered down with TinySC still running. And since one can't do anything anyway, my suggestion is if one is going to save the few watts of letting the HD sleep or be turned off, one might as well Eject the USB Drive and unplug the Touch also. When using TinySC, I just let the HD and Touch stay running. We are talking less then 9 Watts for a Touch and USB powered USB Drive. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
mdm;566568 Wrote: Well, I use Touch to stream from HD about twice a week, so I shutdown tinySC, eject HD and power it off every time. What's wrong with that? Mike. Wasn't that my suggestion if one doesn't want to use the less then 9 Watts by leaving it running, one might as well Eject the USB Drive and unplug the Touch also? I guess from where I sit the 9 Watts is basically nothing in the grand scheme of things and it is my opinion that powering down and powering up (and the scanning that goes along with that) is harder on the drive then just leaving it running 24/7 in a stable state. Just my opinion YMMV. The part I was talking about being unhappy with is how TinySC deals with USB Drives that like to sleep, spin down, or are external powered and power is removed and/or reapplied. That's all I was saying. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I have no problem with ejecting the USb HD and powering off every time in general. Its just that I use my Touch so much, I feel its unnecessary wear and tear on the USB HD. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
I use the Touch with attached HDD mostly on weekends and holidays so I eject the HDD but leave the Touch running on mysqueezebox.com to listen to internet radio. Once its attached I usually leave it connected for a few days. To re-attach the drive I first start TinySC and when it asks for a USB or SD card I attach the drive. Re-scan doesn't take very long after the initial full scan. Sometimes it's a hit and miss situation, at times I have to reboot the Touch before re-attaching the drive. It just takes a little patience but it works for me. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
carib;566575 Wrote: I use the Touch with attached HDD mostly on weekends and holidays so I eject the HDD but leave the Touch running on mysqueezebox.com to listen to internet radio. Yeah, I do the same, use the Touch as a radio most of the time and sometimes play from HD. Thanks. -- mdm Touch(wireless/Tiny/1Tb LaCie) - CA DacMagic - MF A220 - Kelly Transducers KT3, MF A2CD, MF X-CAN, MF X-LPS, Rega P3(Shure V15VxMR), Sennheiser HD-580, Vampire Wire SC/IV Accuphase Interconnect cables, Chord Prodac (coaxial), Acrotec 6N-S1200(bi-wire) mdm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch needs server for various things?
Ok. Small update. Everything seems to work since I switched explicitly to MySB. I do understand that there might be some issues using MySB, but in my situation, using a Touch only, it seems to work very good in combination with the applets running on the Touch (Soma FM, Last.fm, etc.). Running a server 24/7 is no option for me. I find it just as 'weird' as having your motor engine runing 24/7, or having the lights on 24/7 or the heating on 24/7 for just a few hours of traveling, darkness and cold. As the server is also used for real-time transcoding movies(PS3, iPad), it's a rather fast server with a relative high idle power consumption... So the server is running on-demand using WOL over LAN WAN and that saves me about 100/year on my electricity bill. Since I'm using the Touch, I am considering using TinySC and a small mobile harddisk in the future once TinySC / SC matured a bit and all plug-ins have been made compatible with the new version. The mentioned Sheeva/Guruplug combined with again a mobile harddisk is also a viable solution, but I let them fix the powersupply overheating issues first ;) -- Mars Warrior Mars Warrior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80884 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
toby10;564373 Wrote: Connect Touch to full SBS on your computer, go to Settings Advanced Software Update I've spent countless hours tring to get this to work with no luck at all. After resetting the Touch software to version 7.5.1 and loading 7.5.2 on my PC, the PC no longer connects to the Touch. The touch however connects fine to my network and strams internet radio without a problem... and my PC can see everything on the network but the Touch. So in desperation I shut down the Touch, the cable modum and the wireless router... upon pluging in everything I found that the wireless won't reconnect to the internet. So I did a hard reset of the wireless and now I have to reconfigure my home network. Nothing but trouble since day one... -- tony.s tony.s's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch needs server for various things?
Glad to hear things are running better now. One thing, note that SomaFM, Last.fm, etc are apps not applets. Apps are really services, and even though the interface talks about installing them, they really aren't installing anything. Applets, on the other hand, are things that you actually install and run on the player. Applets only work with newer players (SB Controller, Radio, and Touch), whereas apps also work with older players like the Boom, SB3/Classic, etc. So there are plugins, apps, and applets. Confused? You're not alone. Basically Logitech decided to jump on the iThing bandwagon and get app-happy with what are basically internet services for the SB. Since you have your server running on-demand via WOL, I don't understand why you presume a SB server would have to be on 24/7. SBS can be run on-demand as well. In fact the SrvrPowerCtrl plugin has lots of great options, including switching your players over to mysb.com after a certain idle period, and then suspending/hibernating/shutting down your server. Getting that to play nicely with your video serving could take some work, but running a local music server does _not_ imply it has to be on 24/7. Granted, you'll want to get your SBC WOL problem sorted out first -- did you ever check if audio playback was enabled on the SBC, and if it was, disabling it? Oh, and if you're waiting for SBS plugins to be compatible with TinySBS you'll be waiting a long time. The current lack of plugin support on TinySBS was a conscious decision related to hardware limitations. I doubt you'll ever see many (any?) plugins for TinySBS on the current Touch hardware. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80884 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch needs server for various things?
aubuti;53 Wrote: Glad to hear things are running better now. One thing, note that SomaFM, Last.fm, etc are apps not applets. Apps are really services, and even though the interface talks about installing them, they really aren't installing anything. Applets, on the other hand, are things that you actually install and run on the player. Applets only work with newer players (SB Controller, Radio, and Touch), whereas apps also work with older players like the Boom, SB3/Classic, etc. So there are plugins, apps, and applets. Confused? You're not alone. Basically Logitech decided to jump on the iThing bandwagon and get app-happy with what are basically internet services for the SB. Yes, I'm very happy! And thanx for the clarification about the app(lets). I already was confused by TinySC, TinySBS, TouchSBS and SBS/Embedded to name a few ;) Since you have your server running on-demand via WOL, I don't understand why you presume a SB server would have to be on 24/7. SBS can be run on-demand as well. In fact the SrvrPowerCtrl plugin has lots of great options, including switching your players over to mysb.com after a certain idle period, and then suspending/hibernating/shutting down your server. Getting that to play nicely with your video serving could take some work, but running a local music server does _not_ imply it has to be on 24/7. I'm using WHS as the OS and LightsOut to control suspending the server, so I can't use the nice switching functionality of SrvrPowerCtrl I guess... And yes, I didn't imply that the server must be on 24/7, the Touch does a nice job sending WOL to wake up the server, as does the Controller, altough the Controller does it a bit to often in some cases Granted, you'll want to get your SBC WOL problem sorted out first -- did you ever check if audio playback was enabled on the SBC, and if it was, disabling it? No, audio playback is disabled on the Controller. Oh, and if you're waiting for SBS plugins to be compatible with TinySBS you'll be waiting a long time. The current lack of plugin support on TinySBS was a conscious decision related to hardware limitations. I doubt you'll ever see many (any?) plugins for TinySBS on the current Touch hardware.Gr -- Mars Warrior Mars Warrior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80884 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch needs server for various things?
Mars Warrior;54 Wrote: I'm using WHS as the OS and LightsOut to control suspending the server, so I can't use the nice switching functionality of SrvrPowerCtrl I guess... I've seen where at least one user uses LightsOut to control SBS in conjunction with SrvrPowerCtrl. If you're interested, go to 'this massive thread (1400+ posts!) on SrvrPowerCtrl' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521[/url) and search for LightsOut. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80884 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
More inconsistent statements from Bruce (the owner of the studio that HDTracks uses to prepare its downloadable music files): We are extracting the direct DSD data stream. It does not enter the analog domain. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/SACD-sound-quality-vs-computer-audio-sound-quality Any DSD processing that I do goes to the analog domain and then back to DSD http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?1037-Upsampled-SACD-sp=10655 Bruce has zero credibility in my opinion based upon these inconsistent statements. This process of digital to analog to digital again results in additional loss of fidelity. And these are more details not revealed by HDTracks. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
tony.s;50 Wrote: .. So in desperation I shut down the Touch, the cable modum and the wireless router... upon pluging in everything I found that the wireless won't reconnect to the internet. So I did a hard reset of the wireless and now I have to reconfigure my home network. Nothing but trouble since day one... You certainly have had your share of odd issues. :( There was just a recent thread in the Boom forum where someone had to completely go through the entire Boom network setup every time they unplugged their Boom and moved it to another part of their house, connecting to the same WiFi network router. They even had to reenter the SSID and encryption passphrase every time. Why their setup did not allow the Boom to function properly and just reconnect like most other Booms do is a mystery. My Boom always has, just as my Touch has never had your issues. There are just too many variables. Let's hope all is well after your network reboot reconfiguration. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch needs server for various things?
Speaking off :confused: I had to turn of my server 10 times tonight due to excessive WOL from something . Main suspect keeping the controller controling my Touch sitting on NP screen with pause. Wonder if get the music to stop instead of pause and controller out in the home menu is better -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE for the rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80884 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
