Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] can i contunue to use spotify free???
thanks. Good explenation! It has some limitations i see (& it doesn't work!). So i think i'll better get the premium account. Carlo sunnyside's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95608 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] post now playing to facebook wall
Mnyb wrote: > > Auto posting ? Really, if my friends did that i had to ignore them , the > newsfeed would turn to spamm really quick ? Facebook is not that dim. With OpenGraph you have pretty fine-grained control over how and what you want to post. You can have all your music listening recorded on facebook, but people would have to look into your App Statistics to learn about it (on the timeline). And then you can decide on single tracks that you want to share them, for example. It's quite powerful but requires quite a bit of work and also backend hosting on the using App's side. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95556 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] post now playing to facebook wall
Does it work properly for you ? If I do it the post gets malformed ,all artist and song info disappears for me and the post does not appear in the newsfeed ( on LMS 7.8 ) . Auto posting ? Really, if my friends did that i had to ignore them , the newsfeed would turn to spamm really quick ? Phew it can get to much already with just the occasional spotify or YouTube clips , it would be more irritating than those games . would you want every tune posted ? Non addicted only check fb a couple of times a day so their newsfeed would only be playlist interrupted by the occasional relevant post by a friend or family member . Believe me absolutely no one is interested in every tune you listen to . I try post tunes to highlight something really special that I think my friends should hear. Social media means a human thats posts stuff, that's the piont for me , not some bot capability in our apps doing it for us . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95556 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Organising Favourites
Time. More time. Yep, a good thing. ;-) garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95607 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] mp4 audio
Agree about YT mp4 quality for audio but often these are old and rare tracks so quality isn't a factor. However, I have some clips where the audio is excellent. It would be good to be able to listen to all of these on a better system than a PC. Mardler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56487 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95587 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Organising Favourites
Gary, yup, I follow your instructions and they make perfect sense. All I have to do is get round to finding time amongst all the other stuff that needs doing! Mardler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56487 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95607 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrading the clocks in the SBT - is it necessary
stop-spinning wrote: > Its just a matter of suck it and see. I wouldn't personally use the EDO > applet for hi-res files because I am not interest in that aspect - I > would only use the EDO applet to make the most of Async USB in order to > bypass the clocks in the SBT and use the clocks in a well implemented > Async DAC (such as the MDAC, although I use the Goldenote DAC-7). I agree. My DAC is the Rega DAC, and that's why the EDO isn't interesting for me. The USB-input on the Rega is not as good as the S/PDIF. Regards NoRoDa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95573 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] post now playing to facebook wall
Okay, so I had to reinstall LMS in order to get facebook integration to work again. Now it works and I have the "Post to Facebook" option. They really need to get the automatic post working, some type of automatic posting would be great, just like Spotify does. kllngtme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95556 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Oldtimer looking to upgrade to Touch withoutdowngrading to mysb.com
24/96 no problem on all outputs analog spdiff and optical ,more than 2 discrete channels no not that I'm aware off :-/ I want that to and hdmi would be the way . maybe someone has a detailed description on how to pass the nag screen for mysb.com on setup ? It can be done yes . But nothing is required after registration either , it will be just as usable if never ever connected back to the service. Never firmware can be downloaded via the server ,but player fw comes via mysb.com for all players , so without integration you migth have to put them there yourself . Or use an SD card , that is a very good idea as they are delivered with very old fw that is basically knackered , so step one is to upgrade the Touch. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95617 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HELP Please - Touch Re-buffers constantly playing 24/96 or 24/88.2 FLAC
tubarao wrote: > I have a Ready NAS Ultra ... Nothing else running on the NAS? Any NAS changes or updates? Tried clearing the LMS Cache folder? Tried rebooting NAS? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95003 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Oldtimer looking to upgrade to Touch withoutdowngrading to mysb.com
- No MySB.com account required to use any SqueezeBox player. Don't even need an internet connection. - Only missing online content absent MySB.com, which you don't want. - Firmware can be applied to Touch by either server (LMS on your computer or MySB.com online) or even just the Touch's SD card slot. - Touch mods are unrelated to MySB.com. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95617 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrading the clocks in the SBT - is it necessary
NoRoDa wrote: > Totally agreee!! > If both the EDO and TT3.0 sound hars, then go back to factory settings. > That worked for me. :) > > Regards Its just a matter of suck it and see. I wouldn't personally use the EDO applet for hi-res files because I am not interest in that aspect - I would only use the EDO applet to make the most of Async USB in order to bypass the clocks in the SBT and use the clocks in a well implemented Async DAC (such as the MDAC, although I use the Goldenote DAC-7). stop-spinning's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43254 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95573 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Oldtimer looking to upgrade to Touch without downgrading to mysb.com
Hi all! I've been using an SB2 since it came out (and an SB1 for a couple of months before that), and I'm looking for an upgrade. Whishlist: - DAC that can do 24/96+, at least via digital out - support for multi-channel audio (via HDMI) Well, the Touch only gets 1/2 and has a ton of features I do not need (touch screen, integrated server, ...). Did they *have* to throw the slim / thin client concept out of the window? So I've been waiting for a more direct SB3 or even Transporter successor - actually the Transporter would do, only nobody is selling any, go figure -, but there's no new models on the horizon, so I've been thinking, get a Touch or three before Logitech axes that, too. Now, I've never used Squeezenetwork / mysqueezebox.com and very much don't want to. Not everything needs to be closely integrated with the Internet, much less a proprietary service. There's privacy issues, security issues, reliability issues - all for functionality that I don't need and that could easily be done via server plugins. More than that, I see the service as an attempt to take back the openness that was another one of Slim Devices' core concepts by moving as much functionality as possible out of the server, and frankly that pisses me off. If I'm forced to register I won't buy a Touch, it's that simple. So, - Can I setup a Touch, as currently in the European retail channels, without registering? - If I run the Touch without an account, what am I missing compared to my (also unregistered) SB2? - ... compared to the "full" experience? - Can I still keep it's firmware current? - Can I still benefit from the various mods people are doing, e. g. EDO? I'm perfectly willing to jump through a few hoops and I know my way around Linux but I'd like to know how much trouble it's going to be before I drop over €200. TIA, Chris ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Its worth saying that I would like to hear from other SBT users with Tenor devices as the work around for diego may need changing for other devices. I would like to get some more test data and would ask that anyone willing to do so posts here and we can ask you to try one of the test kernels to get us some more debug messages. I've also written to Tenor about this. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrading the clocks in the SBT - is it necessary
SBGK wrote: > well some people found that the changes TT3.0 implemented were > detrimental to the sound, I think we can agree on that as you were > latterly one of it's fiercest opponents. So if you agree that TT3.0 > adversely affects the sound then surely you can agree that there are > settings which could improve the sound. Totally agreee!! The settings for that are the settings it comes with from Logitech. ;) SBGK wrote: > So I did some trial and error and investigation about how a linux > computer should be set up and found that TT3.0 was trying to achieve the > lowest latency possible. I took the view that the lowest latency is not > relevant to the Touch (for me) and the TT3.0 settings were introducing > noise to the process. My settings therefore concentrate on lower noise > and produce a smoother sound, they also work with the EDO mods which > people initially identified as harsh sounding. No need to trial and error, just listen without seeing. That way I had to admit that the smoothest and most appealing sound came from the factory settings. If both the EDO and TT3.0 sound hars, the go back to factory settings. That worked for me. :) Regards NoRoDa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95573 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HELP Please - Touch Re-buffers constantly playing 24/96 or 24/88.2 FLAC
aubuti wrote: > Or if the router and Touch are really only 10 feet apart, just go with > plain Ethernet over cat5e cable. Even if one needs to take circuitous > route between the two it is probably less than 25 feet of cable max. At > a minimum this should be done as a temporary test to see if that is the > source of the rebuffering problem. > > EDIT: Also, wrt "Touch just stop playing after the Touch has been used > for some 10 to 20 minutes", you should consider the possibility that > your router is dying. That wouldn't be my first guess (wifi interference > would be), but it happens. Someone recently had a router problem causing similar symptoms with overheating router. If your router is over two years old probably time to replace anyhow. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95003 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HELP Please - Touch Re-buffers constantly playing 24/96 or 24/88.2 FLAC
aubuti wrote: > Or if the router and Touch are really only 10 feet apart, just go with > plain Ethernet over cat5e cable. Even if one needs to take circuitous > route between the two it is probably less than 25 feet of cable max. At > a minimum this should be done as a temporary test to see if that is the > source of the rebuffering problem. > > EDIT: Also, wrt "Touch just stop playing after the Touch has been used > for some 10 to 20 minutes", you should consider the possibility that > your router is dying. That wouldn't be my first guess (wifi interference > would be), but it happens. Good points. And note that simply plugging in Ethernet doesn't switch touch to Ethernet. You have to change touch settings. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95003 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HELP Please - Touch Re-buffers constantly playing 24/96 or 24/88.2 FLAC
garym wrote: > You may want to move to powerplugs to get Ethernet over power lines to > your touch. Can work very well. Or if the router and Touch are really only 10 feet apart, just go with plain Ethernet over cat5e cable. Even if one needs to take circuitous route between the two it is probably less than 25 feet of cable max. At a minimum this should be done as a temporary test to see if that is the source of the rebuffering problem. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95003 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Controlling TinySC from ubuntu?
asplundj wrote: > I am running my SB Touch through TinySC to play music from a USB-stick. > I wonder if it's possible to control the touch through ubuntu with this > setup? Yes, if you can get squeezeplay to run on your Ubuntu system. Then use squeezeplay as the controller for the touch. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HELP Please - Touch Re-buffers constantly playing 24/96 or 24/88.2 FLAC
tubarao wrote: > I have a Ready NAS Ultra + without TT3 and streaming FLACs (compression > 5) 16/44.1 and I have the same problem: re-buffers constantly or the > Touch just stop playing after the Touch has been used for some 10 to 20 > minutes. SBS is 7.7.2. These problems started suddenly last week without > any reasons after having used the Touch without having this problem > before now for a long time (had many other issues unrelated in the > past). My router is some 10 feet away from the Touch. I am frustrated > for a long time now with the Touch and thinking seriously switching to a > Sonos system... Maybe interference from a new nearby network, baby moniter, etc . Use something like inSSIDer to look at nearby wifi networks. What channels are they using. Change your wifi channel in router to unused channel, preferably 1, 6, or 11. You may want to move to powerplugs to get Ethernet over power lines to your touch. Can work very well. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95003 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrading the clocks in the SBT - is it necessary
NoRoDa wrote: > Is SBGK getting results? How do you know that? Just 'cause he says so? > > He doesn't need a resolving system, why do we then? > > To find out if your system is more or less resolving, first try to find > out if the differences are in your head or in the sound coming from your > speakers ;) > > Regards well some people found that the changes TT3.0 implemented were detrimental to the sound, I think we can agree on that as you were latterly one of it's fiercest opponents. So if you agree that TT3.0 adversely affects the sound then surely you can agree that there are settings which could improve the sound. So I did some trial and error and investigation about how a linux computer should be set up and found that TT3.0 was trying to achieve the lowest latency possible. I took the view that the lowest latency is not relevant to the Touch (for me) and the TT3.0 settings were introducing noise to the process. My settings therefore concentrate on lower noise and produce a smoother sound, they also work with the EDO mods which people initially identified as harsh sounding. As far as I know RGRO, Magiccarpetride and Guidof use the settings to some good effect. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95573 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Organising Favourites
Mardler wrote: > So, I might be able to get the SB to look at my Frontier Silicon radio > page (it has just level of folders but that's enough) instead of MySB? No. It wont read a web page. It needs to be a single file, in the format of the favorites.opml file that is stored at a specific URL. Do you follow my earlier instructions? They will do exactly what you want. Let us know if you have questions about implementing that approach. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95607 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Organising Favourites
So, I might be able to get the SB to look at my Frontier Silicon radio page (it has just level of folders but that's enough) instead of MySB? Mardler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56487 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95607 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Controlling TinySC from ubuntu?
I am running my SB Touch through TinySC to play music from a USB-stick. I wonder if it's possible to control the touch through ubuntu with this setup? asplundj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HELP Please - Touch Re-buffers constantly playing 24/96 or 24/88.2 FLAC
I have a Ready NAS Ultra + without TT3 and streaming FLACs (compression 5) 16/44.1 and I have the same problem: re-buffers constantly or the Touch just stop playing after the Touch has been used for some 10 to 20 minutes. SBS is 7.7.2. These problems started suddenly last week without any reasons after having used the Touch without having this problem before now for a long time (had many other issues unrelated in the past). My router is some 10 feet away from the Touch. I am frustrated for a long time now with the Touch and thinking seriously switching to a Sonos system... tubarao's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50119 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95003 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Daft questions
JJZolx wrote: > The 'controller' was only an integral part of the Duet system, not of > any other Squeezebox product. All other Squeezeboxes are controllable by > an IR remote and, on some, a front panel or touch screen. These other > interfaces are not connected via network, although their dispatches are > passed by the player over the network to the server. When I talk about "controller" I am talking about the abstract logical construct I call a controller, not the physical box called the Controller. The logical controller has two parts, one is the human interface, buttons, display screen etc, and the part that sends commands to the server, such as start, stop, display the results of a query to the database. There are different physical implementations of this logical construct. In the case of the Radio, Controller and Touch there is a local processor in the box running a program called squeezeplay, squeezeplay will read buttons, IR codes from a remote, touches on the Touch screen and display things on the LCD screen. It takes the information in and sends commands over the network to the server. On SB3, boom, transporter etc, the server software creates an instance of a controller running on the computer the server is running on, the SB hardware sends IR codes, button presses etc to this controller instance and this controller instance interprets them and sends the same commands to the server. So architecturally, logically, it's the same model, even though the physical implementations are quite a bit different. All the different methods of control do the same thing, they have some way of interacting with humans, some software to interpret that interface and send commands to a server. It might be iPeng on an iPhone, the web page hosted by the server, squeezeplay on a Touch, or that special controller instance created by the server for an SB3. Logically they are all the same thing. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95584 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to backup "everything" on SBT?
None of the usual backup methods are going to work properly for the Touch as far as a COMPLETE full exactly as it normally is state. The reason for this is that the Touch uses a union file system. In a union filesystem there are multiple physical file systems that are combined at run time to provide what you see. For the Touch it is setup with a read only filesystem which contains the firmware from Logitech and a separate physical filesystem which contain "changes", anything you modify (directly or indirectly) goes in the "change" filesystem. What you see is the union of these two filesystems (its actually more complicated, but that's the easy to understand version). This actually is how the factory restore works, it clears out the "changed" filesystem. So if you use normal backup procedures you will be making a copy of the union filesystem, when you restore it, everything goes in the changed filesystem, not back into the "official" read only filesystem. So lets say you get corruption in the read only system, you restore your backup into the changed filesystem (assuming there is enough space in this filesystem!), everything now works, but if you do a factory reset you blow away the "changed" filesystem and now you are back to pointing at the corrupted read only filesystem! Obviously there are ways to write to the read only filesystem, a firmware change has to do that, but you have to go through special hoops to actually get at the different filesystem and back each one up separately, and on a restore put them back in the correct physical filesystems. It certainly can be done, but a "normal" backup procedure is NOT going to do that. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95594 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] can i contunue to use spotify free???
Oh, sorry. I was reading that on my mobile phone, and missed the link. Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95608 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrading the clocks in the SBT - is it necessary
stop-spinning wrote: > Excellent John, so in summary, a good example of an async USB DAC is the > MDAC, therefore with the well engineered MDAC, there is no need for an > intermediate re-clocker (or any form of clock upgrade), simply because > the MDAC is one example of a well implemented async USB DAC, is that > right? > > Correct, A very well done async USB DAC should make clocking issues in the Touch irrelevant, but as I said nobody has actually tried to optimize the clock that drives the USB bus so we don't know for sure. Indications are that such a DAC is fairly immune to small jitter on the bits (which is what a clock change would affect), Many USB DACs DO seem to have some degree of susceptibility to gross packet timing differences (controlled by software settings), some to a fairly large degree and others to a much smaller degree, I don't have a MDAC so I can't tell you where it lies. But these are not hardware changes, they are purely software. When people talk about "reclockers" they are usually referring to boxes that take in a S/PDIF signal, run it through a good PLL, regenerate a S/PDIF stream with the clock from the PLL. This only works for S/PDIF. There are no "reclockers" for USB, there are some devices which perform isolation (but only for full speed, not high speed) and these actually ARE reclockers, but the internal clock is WAY WAY worse than anything you are going to find in a computer, they actually add a TON of jitter to the USB bus! John JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95573 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
