Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Has the Touch release date been delayed?
dave77;488423 Wrote: I don't think Logitech has made any announcement about putting back the release date since it's original press statement saying December and the cancellation was Amazon, not Logitech. Likewise, I could be mistaken, but I don't believe Logitech has charged any credit cards for the pre-orders either. As well as separating out the techs from the marketing folks, it's also a good idea to distinguish Logitech from the resellers. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Has the Touch release date been delayed?
DaveKen;488447 Wrote: Hi aubuti, No, I can assure you of the following FACTS: - 1) my order was placed DIRECT with Logitech to take advantage of the 20% pre-order discount, 2) my debit card was debited within 24 hours, but 24 hours later the sum was credited back into the account. I also believe that at least one other person has posted here saying that the same thing happened to them. Thanks for clarifying with facts about the debiting and near-instant refund (but no need to shout). As for the announced release date (your reply to dave77), the only announcement that Logitech ever made was in September at the consumer electronics show in Berlin (I forget the name), when they said -The Logitech Squeezebox Touch Wi-Fi music player is expected to be available in the U.S. and Europe beginning in December- (see: http://ir.logitech.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=406806) -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Has the Touch release date been delayed?
DaveKen;488472 Wrote: Sorry, I'm new to forum posting also and I forgot that upper case is the equivalent of shouting - I looked for 'bold' text and couldn't find it - apologies. no problem, no foul DaveKen;488472 Wrote: If that is the case, (and I ain't doubting you), I stand corrected but I am sure that I have seen it written somewhere that the originally announced release date was much earlier - maybe I am confusing the statement made in September with a September release date. Maybe you're thinking of the other day when one of the other SB Touch beta testers mentioned on these forums that there had been talk of releasing the SBT as early as May 2009. But that was never a public statement, and Logitech never admitted to the existence of the SB Touch until early September, despite lots of leaks in the online press, and the famous case of a reseller who sold a unit long before he should have. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and PC simultaneously connected to the same extnl. HARDDRIVE
The SB Touch runs a Samba (file sharing) server. So you can connect any standard external USB HDD to the SBT's USB port, and the drive contents will be seen by the rest of the network. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71703 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] control SB Touch wirelessly?
The SB Touch can be controlled by any capable device (eg, computer, PDA, etc.) on the network, just like any other SB since the original SliMP3. There could be an iPeng-like app for the Blackberry, but it would probably have to come from a 3rd party developer (just like iPeng). As a BB user I would like to see one, but I don't have the skills to write it. And I don't see nearly as big a market for it compared to iPeng. But one can hope. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71661 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] control SB Touch wirelessly?
That information helps understand your questions. There is still one important question, which bpa asked: do you plan to run the server software (Squeezebox Server, aka SBS) on the SB Touch or on a computer, such as your notebook? If you plan to use the SBS on the SB Touch (aka TinySBS), then you cannot control it via a web browser, but you can control it via SqueezePlay (as noted by usch), which is other software that you can run on your notebook. If you intend to run SBS on the notebook, then you can control the SB Touch from any other computer on the network. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71661 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] control SB Touch wirelessly?
SqueezePlay is currently beta software. Moreover, at present there are no binaries distributed for Linux, so you'll have to compile it yourself. See this thread, especially the link in post #14, for more info: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70556 -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71661 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Has the Touch release date been delayed?
dave77;483648 Wrote: I think when you pre-order a product and hand over your card details, you have the right to know when the product will be delivered and when your card will be debited. The right? You can think that, but it doesn't make it so. More fundamentally, how can you expect to know delivery date when Logitech doesn't? Like funkstar says, people complain about the SB Radio being rushed to market before it was ready, and then want the SB Touch shipping for Christmas '09 no matter how many unresolved bugs there are. I think (personal opinion, no insider info) that Logitech has missed the Christmas '09 window, and it is in their reputational interest to be sure that the SBT is as solid and feature-complete as it can be on release. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Has the Touch release date been delayed?
usch;483963 Wrote: JohnSwenson;483949 Wrote: I think the last straw was when some retailer offered them up for sale on their web page and actually shipped one. Does that mean that (unlike the Radio when it was released) the Touch is actually already in stock at the stores and just waiting for Logitech's Go!? No, amazingly this person happened to contact the only retailer who had them, and the retailer had exactly one unit. And now it's gone, into the wild. What were the odds of that happening? ;o) There's a pretty amusing thread started by the lucky winner: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67109 -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as server
dave77;481118 Wrote: cheers for that, I'll give it a try when it arrives. Out of curiosity, would it be possible to map a drive on the Touch so that it's internal SBS can access a NAS drive, or can it only use USB? I'm pretty sure this can be done. You would need to ssh in to the SBT and issue the correct mount commands to logically mount the NAS as a filesystem on the SBT. Others have said that scanning in this configuration would likely be very slow. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70620 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch as controller for Duet receiver
Yes, you can use the SB Touch as a controller for the SB Duet Receiver. But what you heard about 802.11g not being capable of streaming FLAC and SBC traffic at the same time is simply wrong. In some cases individual wifi networks have problems, but FLACs + SBC traffic is nowhere near maxing out an 11g network. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70801 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as server
dave77;479971 Wrote: That looks good but I was thinking more photos than album art Already done and available on the SBC and SB Radio as well as the SB Touch. There's the flickr plugin for grabbing photos (yours or other people's) off the internet, or locally stored photos from the Image Viewer option. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70620 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as server
dave77;480011 Wrote: Any comments on this? Depends. Some people have no problem with double hops on regular SBS, and I would expect that it would be the same for 'TinySC' on the SB Touch. Of course, it certainly can't hurt to wire the SBT. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70620 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as server
andyg;479578 Wrote: There is no such thing as standby. But there is off, which like most of the SBs, doesn't really turn it completely off. Does TinySC keep serving if you turn the SBT off via the button on the upper left of the screen? I would think so, but I haven't tried it yet. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70620 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Text on Touch
The text size changes automatically. If you use the IR remote, it goes to the 10 foot (~3m) interface, because that's about the distance from which it is readable (depending on lighting, your eyesight, etc.). If you approach the SB Touch, the built-in proximity sensor senses this and changes to the 3 foot (~1m) interface, which is smaller text. Of course, if you touch the screen it also switches to the 3-foot interface. I don't imagine many (any?) people would actually be picking up the SBT to control it -- it sits on a shelf just like an SB3. I can't comment on the audio quality of the digital out because I use the analog outs. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70360 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital EQ?
Tripmaster;471822 Wrote: Thanks for the Inguz recommendation, it looks like great software. I have been thinking about making a measurement mic for a while, and it will be nice to see how close my speakers are to the designers spec. Its a shame the Touch needs to be connected to a PC, it kinda defeats the point in my case. You're welcome. Please note that in general the SB Touch does _not_ need to be connected to a PC. It can run the server software on its own. However, the Inguz is by far the most resource-demanding plugin available for the SB, and needs a sufficiently powerful PC to run it. Putting that kind of computing power in the SBT would drive up the cost, size, and noise of the SBT considerably, for a plugin that only a small percentage of users would ever use. You can have Inguz, or you can have PC-less operation, but you can't have both. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69721 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can the Touch be a stand alone player?
rotho;470965 Wrote: Can you confirm that it is impossible to use the Controller when the SB Touch is not connected to a network ? Doesn't the SB Touch itself has WiFi capability ? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question. The Touch and SBC both communicate via TCP/IP. You need a network for them to communicate. That network may be no more than the SB Touch, SBC, and a wifi router -- it doesn't have to include a computer. Strictly speaking I suppose one could use the IR Emitter feature of the SBC to communicate with the SBT over IR, but if you're going to do that you would be better off using the IR remote that is included with the SBT. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69041 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can the Touch be a stand alone player?
0xdeadbeef;468077 Wrote: Hm, a standalone player could be connected to the LAN or internet as well. Standalone only means that it doesn't need a server, not necessarily that it doesn't have a network connection. Indeed, if the Touch can play files from an USB drive, it should be also possible to play internet radio streams from a technical point of view. I get the impression though that the internal server is only started if no network connection is found. No, the internal server is started if the user starts it. It's activated by commands from the touchscreen interface or IR remote. You can definitely start it even if there is a network connection -- otherwise it couldn't stream to other SBs, and the built-in Samba server wouldn't be any good either. And yes, if it is connected to the internet, it can play internet radio streams. Re 'standalone', obviously if it is connected to a network it can do anything that it can when it *isn't* connected to a network (kidstypike's def'n of 'standalone'), and it can also do more. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69041 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wall-Mount Bracket at $99.99 ?
iPhone;463468 Wrote: It comes down to it being an accessory and a limited demand speciality one at that. Marketing is going to set the price. And the only thing that is ever going to lower that price is if they end up with 10K of them in a warehouse somewhere 3 years from now and they blow them out to get rid of them. Or someone with *way* too much time on his hands decides he can grab a piece of this tiny market by producing a competing product for less than $100. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68046 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wall-Mount Bracket at $99.99 ?
Goodsounds;460041 Wrote: You would know better than I, but are you saying that the company has asked for/encouraged critical comments in public from product testers on pricing and market positioning decisions on unreleased products? I can't imagine that, but you tell me if that's the case. No, but they've never been known to penalize anyone for speaking out, or try to muzzle anyone either. From your smiley in post #20 I assume it was meant as a joke, and that sounds about right. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68046 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as in-wall Controller
iPhone;459710 Wrote: As to the second part, I'm not home now to check to see if Touch wakes up if I start the other player locally that was set as the player to control by Touch. But if you woke the TP up with the Touch, then of course it would be on then. If not already the case, I'm fairly sure it won't be to hard to have that set as the behavior you want. I just tried this out and confirmed that if I choose my SB3 as a player on the SBT, and then turn off the SBT and turn on my SB3 with the IR remote, it wakes up the SBT and shows the now playing information for the SB3. If I turn off the SB3, the SBT goes back to its power off screensaver. I assume it would work the same way for the Transporter, but if you want to be sure just send me the TP and I'll try it out for you ;o) -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68087 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will we ever see an in-car version of the Touch?
One of the SB Touch beta testers (forum username: iPhone) has been using the SBT in one of his vehicles. Says it works great. I don't think he has posted any photos yet, but he has posted some information about it in the forums, which you should be able to turn up via a search. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68009 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What's the exact size?
gorman;458342 Wrote: :( Honestly this seems anything but a 10' interface. Actually Radish (who made the video) has very long arms Right, quite obviously that isn't the 10' interface. It's the touch interface. The SB Touch automatically shifts to the 10' interface when it sees an IR signal. And it shifts back to the touch interface when the screen is touched, or even when someone gets really close to the screen. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezbox Touch - Logitech Z-5 Speakers Compatibility
I am 99% sure that in its current state the SB Touch does not support USB speakers, it can only be used as for inputs such as hard drives, keyboards, mice, etc. But apparently the potential is there for other uses, including speakers, if someone writes the driver software. See this thread for more info: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=455727#post455727 -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67939 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Out of Touch?
Mnyb;456800 Wrote: 4 This is only true if you live in the US in the rest of the world Touch is more expensive than SB3 on logitech's own websites !? They apparently failed to coordinate this marketing effort worldwide. In general Touch cost more than SB3 , but there is an exception in the US they have the same price. Soo can we please stop saying that it is the same price SB3 Touch, this is in most cases not the truth. Yes, the SB3 and Touch are currently listed at the same price ($299) on Logitech's US web sites, *but* (1) the SB3 is available for less than that at many (most?) online retailers (eg, $270 at Amazon and JR), and (2) don't be surprised if Logitech's SB3 US price drops once the Touch actually begins shipping. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67495 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
