Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
vincey103 wrote: thanks for the reply. I've done factory resets and reinstalled the app. i have now reinstalled the original mdac firmware. all is working well again. i might reinstall the mdac update but i don't think its meant to give any sonic improvement -i might be wrong.i will probably wait for johns 'lake west' firmware. thanks for your app.i love it. Hi Vincy, Just to echo Triode's comments, I've also installed the updated MDAC firmware it and it works absolutely fine for me. I'd be very surprised if MDAC firmware is the issue in your case, but in case it's relevant, I am using a USB hub between the Touch and the DAC. indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Hi Triode, Seems to be working like a dream. I did a factory reset, then a firmware update, then I installed your applet. Everything worked just as you described. USB audio is still working brilliantly, and 24/192 still fine from the optical/coax out. I notice there is a Digital Output option in the audio settings. Is this new, or did I just miss it last time? I was going to ask for this, so I'd feel a bit silly if it was there all along! Not a biggie, but I take it it's not possible for all the outputs to work at the same time? Great work, as always! indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Sorry for the delay replying... USB is now working fine, but I'm seeing problems with 192K over optical/coax. MDAC has trouble locking on at all, and the CDQ locks on but is suffering constant dropouts. I tried swapping back and forth between kernel#5 and #6, and I could consistently get 192K to work ok on #5 but not #6. -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
JohnSwenson;698626 Wrote: If using Triode's approach of a high speed hub in front of your async DAC do NOT use the isolator between the Touch and the hub, put the isolator between the hub and the DAC. Thanks John. I must admit, it had already been my intention to put the Isolator between the hub and the DAC, but probably for the completely wrong reason. I was under the (false?) impression that the Isolator did something to stop the power feed getting through, and that this might stop the hub from working properly (it's powered, yes?). I'm not very technical with this kind of thing, as you might have guessed! -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Triode;698629 Wrote: Same isolator I have and I think you our ordering the Hama hub - I can confirm this combination is working for me. So what are your thoughts on the effects of the Isolator? Placebo or not? -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Fair comment :-) The Hama hub has just turned up and it's now in place with kernal#5 running absolutely fine. Tested into the MDAC over USB with 96K and 192K. I wasn't expecting the 192K to work, but it gets downsampled to 96K, which is cool. Sounding good! -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Just tried kernel#6 with the MDAC and CDQ and I' mnot getting anything from the USB. 192 is working OK from optical and coax though. Reloaded kernel#5 and everything is working again. -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
For anyone interested, I've just been playing around with a USB galvanic isolator between the SB Touch and the DAC (Audiolab 8000CDQ). Here are the comments I posted over at Pink Fish. I'm wondering if this is simlar to the effect that others have reported by installing the soundcheck mods? My first impression when I put the isolator in was one of an immediate improvement, but being aware of the potential for a placebo effect i then went on to do a lot of swapping back and forth. However, because of the delay of rebooting the SB Touch between swaps (and not having the most golden of ears), it was not an easy comparison, and to be honest, after a while, I really was starting to think that any difference was in my head. That all changed when I put on Titanium by Kraftwerk (Tour De France album). Playing the opening few seconds of this track has left me with a high confidence level that the Isolator is doing something to tightening up the bass to quite a noticable degree. The sound also seems slightly crisper. I'm still not guaranteeing this isn't my imagination, but if you've got £40 burning a hole in your pocket, I'd recommend giving it a try. I used this one http://electronicsshop.dk/?id=1038 -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Hi Trode, I've just got my SB Touch back from JohnW having been itching to try out your modifications for weeks now... Well, your kernal#1 is working brilliantly with 44/48K and HDCD material into both the MDAC and 8200CDQ. I also had a quick try with Kernal#4 and was able to get 192K over SPDIF with no noticable problems (I only tried the MDAC for that). I listened carefully to a few tracks and they seemed fine. What a super job you've done! To be honest, I'd have been happier than a very happy thing just to see it working at all, but looking at how far you've bought this in terms of ease of use installation is incredibly impressive. We owe you and John S a great debt of grattitude, you've clearly put a lot of work into this which we can all now benefit from. Can't thank you enough! I've just ordered the HAMA USB hub from Amazon (£6.49) so looking forward to trying higher def material over USB once this arrives. I've also got a USB Isolator (of the sort you've mentioned) that I want to try once I get some time - I'll report back if you're interested. Forgive my ignorance/curiosity, but I wondered if you had ever worked in an official capacity on this product? Looking at the quality of your work and your depth of knowledge certainly gives me that impression... All the best, Tim. -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
JohnSwenson;657978 Wrote: Sure it can be setup so that the USB and digital out run at the same time, just use the same scheme as in the normal file. The only problem is that you won't get anything out AT ALL, if the USB DAC is not plugged in. udev is the mechanism by which devices get named. By default your USB DAC can wind up with different names and card numbers making it difficult to write asound files, because the names are going to be different for everybody. There was a udev script posted here a while back which explicetly looks for any USB audio devices and gives them a specific name so it's always the same and people can distribute asound files and have them work on anybodies setup. Unfortunately it didn't go far enough, the presence of a USB device can cause the built in DAC or digital out to change THEIR name making any scheme to have output on two devices at the same time be rather difficult. This udev script needs to be extended so it names ALL audio devices, then its much easier since the names will always be the same. John S. Hi John, I've been trying without any luck to get the USB and SPDIF running at the same time. To take this one step at a time, I tried the following asound.conf, which works fine for USB (ignoring the clicks): pcm.digital { type hw; card TXRX; } ctl.digital { type hw; card TXRX; } pcm.usb { type hw; card Series; } ctl.usb { type hw; card Series; } pcm.!default usb However when I change the above to pcm.!default digital and reboot I get nothing from the spdif outputs unless I unplug the USB cable prior to rebooting. Not sure how I'm going to get them both working simultaneously with this being the case :( I've also tried the original asound.conf, as per (i think) your suggesiton, replacing the ak4420 alias with the above usb alias but when I do this, the squeezebox fails to boot up. Am I doing something silly ? Any suggestions much appreciated. Tim -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
mjensen;657512 Wrote: 3) Change the realtime priority of audio related processes (optional) The easiest way to do this is the put these 4 lines into /etc/init.d/rcS at the end of the file, just before the last line that initializes squeezeplay. I have chrt -f -p 93 `pidof 'sirq-hrtimer/0'` chrt -f -p 91 `pidof 'sirq-timer/0'` chrt -f -p 87 `pidof 'IRQ-25'` chrt -f -p 59 `pidof 'IRQ-37'` Finally got round to getting the USB up and running again today following a firmware update that wiped it all :( I've now tried adding those 4 lines into the rcS file, but for me it hasn't made any noticable difference, i.e. I still get about the same number of clicks as before. Oh well, worth a try, and I appreciate the tip. I'll be more than willing to try any others as and when they come up :) -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
mjensen;657782 Wrote: Hi Tim, So you can have something like this in asound.conf. pcm.usbdac { type hw; card Series; } ctl.usbdac { type hw; card Series; } pcm.!default usbdac QUOTE] Pretty much, except I'm specifying card 0 rather than card Series. I'm trying to remember now why I didn't use the name...? I have a feeling there was a reason. I must make some time this weekend to go through all this again and have a bash at your suggestions. I'm curious as to what your pcm.digital and ctl.digital sections doing (if it can be explained in terms that an idiot can understand!). Getting ahead of myself, it would be really nice if the coax didn't deactivate when swicthing to USB. That way I could also connect it to my AV amp for playing DTS files or pro-logic. I see this as the next big challenge for you guys once the clicks have been resolved :-)) BTW, I won't pretend I understand most of this... for the most part, I've just been following instructions ! -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
Hi Mjensen, First of all, thanks for sharing that info, it is very much appreciated. I've already got John's updated jive_alsa and also own the 8200CDQ DAC, but so far I still get the odd click coming through. Looking through your summary of changes, the thing that stands out that I've not yet tried is part (3), so I will be giving this a go when I get some time (and once I've figured out why USB doesn't seem to work at all since I downloaded the last official firmware upgrade :-( ). Your asound.conf updates also look quite different to the changes recommended by John, but would I be correct that this just a different way of achieving the same result? Cheers, Tim -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
Ok John, thanks for the reply. I didn't realise you had already tried the updated driver. Even so, do you think there would be any benefit in me trying it here? Just clinging on to the last bit of hope that maybe my DAC would give a different result to your own one. Other than that, I guess I shoould give up with getting this working. Thanks again though for all your work with this, and for championing our cause with Logitech :-) -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
Hi John, I've recently been in touch with the designer of my Audiolab 8200CDQ DAC and described the symptoms of the intermittent clicks. Below I've pasted his comments (this is based purely on my description of the problem of course). Is this possibly pointing at an out of date USB driver? If so, can this easily be updated? I'm certainly willing to give it a try if you could guide me through it. All the best, Tim Yes the CDQ will be replaying USB from its DAC's internal Clock (Async USB), and the SB Touch will be streaming the Data, but the SB Touch will not be acting upon the CDQ's Buffer Flow control requests - i.e. it streams the Audio, but does not listen to the request from the CDQ to keep its USB buffer Half Full. The Clicking you hear is when the CDQ's buffer overfills or is allowed to empty - When this buffering error occurs, the CDQ resets its USB buffer pointers and the cycle repeats. Basically, I believe the SB Touch is not managing the Async USB flow control. Your listening to ASYNC USB, but with buffering errors (The Clicks) -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
JohnSwenson;614536 Wrote: Its very easy to modify the source for this program to take an additional value to support S24_3LE. I have the environment all setup to compile it. I will try and get this done sometime this week. If that works I can make it available to those that want to try it. I'll also see if I can get Logitech to add this to the next firmware version, it doesn't change anything that's already working, it just adds an extra option. The way the code in this program works it checks to see if the argument is 24, if it is it sets the driver to S24_LE, if not it sets it to S16_LE. So when I set it to 32 in the above post that actually set it to 16. I guess the HRT products will work with S16_LE as well as S24_3LE. So while it looked like the StreamerII was working, it was only working 16 bit. John S. John, This sounds really promising. I'll be more than happy to give your recompiled firmware a try. Just let me know when it's ready. -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
So John, do you know which files to edit on the Touch, or is this the part which needs more work ? -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
JohnSwenson;613773 Wrote: I wanted you guys to try the aplay route because it lets you easily figure out what works and what does not with the specific hardware. The next step is to try and get squeezeplay to output the right format. Squeezeplay always converts to 24 bit so the playing 16 or 24 bit files is not an issue. Its just a matter of finding out how to get squeezeplay to output the right 24 bit format. It seems some DACs want S24_LE (24 bit samples in 4 bytes) or S24_3LE (24 bit samples in 3 bytes). I'm pretty sure we can get squeezeplay to do either its just a matter of figuring out which options to use. John S. Hi John, Thanks again for your help here. I'm just wondering though, if I still get clicks playing a 24bit file in the correct S24_3LE format using aplay with HW, is squeezeplay likely to be any different ? This might be a silly question, but as I say, I'm new to this :) -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
Much appreciated Johann. I will try these out when I get home later - Tim -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
Still no luck getting rid of the clicks, but I think I may have found a way to find the correct format for the dac... Use aplay with -v, for example the display before seems to show that my dac requires S24_3LE format: # aplay -D plughw:1,0 -v thexx.wav Playing WAVE 'thexx.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo Plug PCM: Linear conversion PCM (S24_3LE) Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK access : RW_INTERLEAVED format : S16_LE subformat: STD channels : 2 rate : 44100 exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) msbits : 16 buffer_size : 22050 period_size : 5513 period_time : 125011 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min: 5513 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 22050 stop_threshold : 22050 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 1445068800 Slave: Hardware PCM card 1 'Audiolab 8200 Series' device 0 subdevice 0 Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED format : S24_3LE subformat: STD channels : 2 rate : 44100 exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) msbits : 24 buffer_size : 22050 period_size : 5513 period_time : 125011 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min: 5513 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 22050 stop_threshold : 22050 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 1445068800 -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
SHR;611149 Wrote: At one point it even looped, booted then re-booted and kept on going until I cut the power. This is exactly what I get whan I use the new asound.conf file. I get about 30 seconds where SSH is still working, and I have to get in quick and restore the original file to get it to boot properly. -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
SHR;610676 Wrote: I had some initial problems to get it going but succeded at last. First I got it to work only with the alsa-plug config but after fiddling around with klaus' sw mods and Johns configs I got it working with the last asound.config and the increased buffersettings. Hi, I just wondered... During your work on this, did you find that the SB would sometimes not fully boot up? Just wondering if I'm experiencing something abnormal. If it's normal, then I'll go ahead and have a play around to see if I can get it working. Thanks! Tim -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
JohnSwenson;609148 Wrote: Make sure the card number is correct. Do aplay -l (thats dash el) find the card number for your USB DAC. If that doesn't work try changing the sample size back to 24. One of 24 or 32 should work. If none of that works post the results from aplay -l, it might help. John S. Hi John, None of this works for me. I cant get it to boot up properly with this new asound.conf, even if I restore the original SqueezeboxFab4Meta.lua and SqueezeboxFab4.lua # aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: TXRX [MXC SPDIF TX/RX], device 0: MXC_SPDIF [MXC_SPDIF] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Series [Audiolab 8200 Series], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: fab4 [fab4], device 0: fab4-ak4420 [] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 3: fab4_1 [fab4], device 0: fab4-wm8974 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 # cat /etc/asound.conf.usb pcm.usbdac { type hw; card 1; } ctl.usbdac { type hw; card 1; } pcm.!default usbdac # -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
JohnSwenson;609445 Wrote: The audiolab uses 24 bit async interface as does the Streamer II, so it should use exactly the same setup. The next step is to look at the /proc/asound area. Look in the card1 dir and poke around for a file of the form stream0, it may be under another dir. This file will give the details of the interface, what it is, how many bits, sample rates etc. John S. This is what my stream0 file looks like # cat stream0 Lakewest Audio Audiolab 8200 Series at usb-fsl-ehci.0-1, full speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 2 Altset = 1 URBs = 2 [ 8 4 ] Packet Size = 582 Momentary freq = 44130 Hz (0x2c.2130) Interface 2 Altset 1 Format: 0x20 Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000 # -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
JohnSwenson;608971 Wrote: First the changes to the asound.conf file: pcm.usbdac { type hw; card 1; } ctl.usbdac { type hw; card 1; } pcm.!default usbdac My SBT will not boot up with this asound.conf file :( I went back to your first version of the modified asound.conf file, but made the additional buffer ans sample size changes. It boots up, but sad to say I still get the clicks. -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Remote Control Codes
For some reason, my Pronto NG refused to learn the IR codes from the SB Touch handset. By going through the info in this thread, and doing a bit of hex / binary conversion, I think I've figured out the full list of clean pronto IR codes for the SB touch: 900B 006D 0001 6E91 19E6 0 900B 006D 0001 6E91 0FF0 1 900B 006D 0001 6E91 10EF 2 900B 006D 0001 6E91 11EE 3 900B 006D 0001 6E91 12ED 4 900B 006D 0001 6E91 13EC 5 900B 006D 0001 6E91 14EB 6 900B 006D 0001 6E91 15EA 7 900B 006D 0001 6E91 16E9 8 900B 006D 0001 6E91 17E8 9 900B 006D 0001 6E91 06F9 Add 900B 006D 0001 6E91 0DF2 Arrow down 900B 006D 0001 6E91 09F6 Arrow left 900B 006D 0001 6E91 0BF4 Arrow right 900B 006D 0001 6E91 07F8 Arrow up 900B 006D 0001 6E91 20DF Brightness 900B 006D 0001 6E91 0EF1 Browse 900B 006D 0001 6E91 18E7 Favorites 900B 006D 0001 6E91 05FA Fwd 900B 006D 0001 6E91 44BB Home 900B 006D 0001 6E91 1EE1 Now Playing 900B 006D 0001 6E91 04FB Pause 900B 006D 0001 6E91 08F7 Play 900B 006D 0001 6E91 02FD Power 900B 006D 0001 6E91 1CE3 Repeat 900B 006D 0001 6E91 03FC Rew 900B 006D 0001 6E91 1AE5 Search 900B 006D 0001 6E91 1BE4 Shuffle 900B 006D 0001 6E91 1DE2 Sleep 900B 006D 0001 6E91 01FE Volume up 900B 006D 0001 6E91 00FF Volume down 900B 006D 0001 6E91 23DC Mute 900B 006D 0001 6E91 F10E Power on 900B 006D 0001 6E91 E11E Power off Hope this is helpful, I could not find this info anywhere, and like others, I found that my SB3 codes did not work with the touch. Enjoy! -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77401 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
John, I'm sure I'm not alone, but I just wanted to pass on my thanks for all your hard work on this. You're selfless efforts are very much appreciated. This will benefit an awful lot of people. -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
JohnSwenson;595308 Wrote: There is no guarantee that we can get it to work with the current firmware. I do have a firmware I compiled myself which has a later version of the driver, BUT it doesn't have MP3 or wireless capability. (the wireless code and MP3 code get linked in by Logitech, they have NOT made those publicly available) Its also based on an old firmware package so it won't have some of the latest fixes. If you are interested in trying that I'll see if I can find it and get it to you. John S. Hi John, If you don't mind, I would really like to try your firmware with the updated ALSA driver to see if this helps in my case. I'd be really grateful if you could PM me with details. Many thanks in advance -Tim -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] ayre QB9 + touch USB
JohnSwenson;602257 Wrote: Some people have run a QB-9 with the Touch without any problems at all. So there has to be something DAC specific, Touch hardware specific or configuration specific. What I would like people to try is different sample rates say 44.1 VS 48 or 88.2 and 96. That should wind up exercising different crystals in the DAC. With a USB interface the rate data is sent to the DAC is NOT determined by the audio crystals but by the processor crystal which may not be given as much care in initial frequency accuracy. The result is that the data rate might be fairly far off from what it should be and the feedback loop in the asynchronous interface may not have enough time to get the computer sending the data at the right rate before the buffer over/under flows. I've been working with some others with async hardware and seeing some very strange things happening. The feedback loop IS working but sometimes the data rate gets set to something very bizarre. Unfortunately I can't get any of this to happen on my Touch so its hard to debug. John S. Hi John, I've been in communication with the software engineer for my async USB DAC (this one http://www.audiolab.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?lang=EnTab2=8200CDQ), which is also getting the pops/clicks after applying your mod. He is interested in contacting you to help resolve it. Would you like me to put you in touch? Tim -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84621 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
Hi cocamegadose, thanks for posting those extra tips. I've just given them a try, and I do agree that the click pops are reduced, but for me even one or two is telling me the story that the Async USB just isn't working properly - in which case there is no advanage over spdif. When I ran these symptoms past the designer of my DAC, the reply was this: Sounds like the SB is not handling Async USB correctly as if its not handling the flow control and allowing the USB buffer to over-run / under-run Maybe this will mean more to someone here than it does to me? -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions for connecting USB DAC to Touch
Hi John, I've got a brand-new SBT and have just tried implementing your mod in order to connect up to an async USB DAC (Audiolab 8000CDQ). I'm getting no sound at all over USB, and it is still coming out of the coax. Below is a dump of some of my files. I'm guessing the status of stop in the stream0 file is not a good sign. My SBT firmware is 7.5.3 r9283 (it updated itself immediately that I turned it on). Can you offer any advice as to a possible cause of my problem? I wondered if it was worth me trying your modified firmware, if you could point me to it. Many thanks in advance, Tim # aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: TXRX [MXC SPDIF TX/RX], device 0: MXC_SPDIF [MXC_SPDIF] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Series [Audiolab 8200 Series], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: fab4 [fab4], device 0: fab4-ak4420 [] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 # cat /etc/asound.conf pcm.usbdac { type hw; card Series; } pcm.plugusb { type plug; slave.pcm usbdac; } ctl.plugusb { type hw; card Series; } pcm.!Series plugusb # cd /proc/asound # ls Series card0card2cardsfab4 hwdeppcm version TXRX card1card3devices fab4_1 oss timers # cd card1 # ls id oss_mixer pcm0p stream0usbbus usbid # cat stream0 Lakewest Audio Audiolab 8200 Series at usb-fsl-ehci.0-1, full speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Stop Interface 2 Altset 1 Format: 0x20 Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000 # -- indypants indypants's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch