Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Mount other NFS Devices
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Jumbo Chumby released - Compliments Touch
USB DAC works :) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Jumbo Chumby released - Compliments Touch
hehe... it's butt simple and can run completely local. It does have media services from Chumby and others, but it has a realtime clock so you don't need a server for time. The music services like Pandora and Shoutcast don't require a server anywhere. It does have a UPnP client, but this release is only photo's and video's. Upcoming software should include music support. It's really just a giant hackable Chumby so you can build and run anything you want on it. SqueezePlay would be a nice port ;) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Jumbo Chumby released - Compliments Touch
The device has apps that let you put your cards in and upload your pix to sites as well as view them. That's the reason for all the card support. The button on the top is multi function. It's not really designed to be an alarm clock, but it can do it. Yes, no audio out other than the headphone jack. I'll post back after I try a USB DAC. I'm a huge Pandora consumer and can add that the Pandora player works well. It's still not Pandora One, but it works just as well as mysb. You can view previously played song art using the touch screen. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Jumbo Chumby released - Compliments Touch
So, I'm not a troll. I own a Touch and use it about 8 hours a day. I also have Chumby's and a Sony Dash... Just to keep the techno-geeks into the Touch informed about another touch screen appliance: Insignia (Best Buy) just released an 8" touch screen running Chumby and some nice native apps. It's fully hackable as well, unlike the Dash. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia+-+Infocast+8%22+Internet+Media+Display/9854795.p?id=1218185322584&skuId=9854795&st=9854795&cp=1&lp=1 I haven't tried by USB DAC yet (it's at the office), but I am told by Chumby it should work. The alsa setting are set for 44 at the moment, but it played 96/24 FLAC's without a hicup. An interesting thing to note is that this chipset can run Android and Windows Embedded. I'd wager we will see Android running on this device in the next few months. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
garym;551897 Wrote: > some do, some don't. depends on the model. Fair enough. The quote is still not a true statement. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
floater;551346 Wrote: > > iPod has no audible output of its own, but you can connect headphones. > Not that it matters much, but this is not a true statement. iPods have a speaker and can play music without headphones. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB playback comlaints unfair
jcowling;551032 Wrote: > I have followed some of the threads complaining about limitations with > using the Touch with larger music collections on USB drives. I strikes > me that some users may be expecting too much from a $300 device with > pristine audio output, a touch screen, a remote control, easy access to > internet radio, Rhapsody and many other services. There are not many > audio devices with this sound quality in this price range. For > example, a 160 gig ipod costs $270 and has nowhere near the audio > quality or features of a Squeezebox. A Sonos setup cost much more and > cannot act as a stand alone player. > To expect the Touch to also internally handle music collections of > hundreds of gigabytes or terabytes, which must have cost many thousands > of dollars, seems to me to be an unfair. > I am somehow reminded of reviewers of $300 speaker systems that > complain about the lack of impact from the 4 1/2 inch drivers and lack > of air in the $20 tweeters. There are very nice speakers in that price > range, but you can't expect them to perform like $1,000 models. > Logitech should not be vilified for its effort to stick with the > original approach of Slim Devices: putting audio quality first in > making reasonably priced network music players on an open platform. > The Touch, like the Boom and Radio were natural extensions of this > approach. The Touch admittedly was an ambitious project and, in my > view, has largely succeeded. I suspect many other consumer products > companies would have not even tried or would have abandoned the project > along the way. > What do you think? I'm really curious about your post. You have made some assumption/statements to validate your position. Where has Logitech been "vilified"? - Perhaps you make an emotional response to people providing feedback on issues and defects. While we do have some Apple fanboi types around here it does not serve anyone to temper complaints or defect reporting. The more we get any and all issues out in the open the quicker they can be resolved for ourselves and future owners. > > To expect the Touch to also internally handle music collections of > hundreds of gigabytes or terabytes, which must have cost many thousands > of dollars, seems to me to be an unfair. Can you back that up with some facts or real data? This just seems a little wishy washy. "Fair" or "unfair" needs to be quantified. We cannot measure whether the Touch meets the requirement it was designed for unless we know just how many files or songs it should support and NOT support. Do we have a software or hardware defect? If you can't quantify we can't talk about "fairness". What is your personal objective with this post? Do you want people to complain less about issues they find so Logitech doesn't take as much "heat" (defend the corporation from bad forum press) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79199 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
Funny. Now all you need to do is get another Touch and turn it into a controller for the headless neutered Touch. You should remove the wireless while you are in there :) Obviously, you have some very subjective comments there. From a technical point of view what do you think removing the screen (vs turning it off) is doing to the system to cause the difference you are noting as improvement? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Digital out?
Here is the link to the other thread. Typically the most value is to have USB on the DAC side. In many cases the Host side is going to be a computer and not a device. I can think of very few devices that can act as a USB host to audio to a USB DAC. Also, typically the USB connection is going to be more limiting than a good SPDIF connection. I say typically because in most cases the USB connection is limited by its common off the shelf chipsets. Only a few manufacturers of USB DAC's have gone far enough to get 96/24(+) working well. I fiddled with this and got my USB DAC's working with the Touch thanks to John's pointers. I do not yet have the Dacport product I mentioned in the other thread. I'm curious to see if it would work without the config changes since it's a 24bit DAC. I would like supported functionality, but like the others here I understand this is more niche and would understand it if Logitech didn't bother changing anything. There are other bugs I'd like to see fixed first if choices need to be made. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78469 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Chumby One can stream from Touch - Confirmed
Just wanted to post this for reference. I can confirm that it it possible add a Chumby One to the list of players on the Touch running TinySB and stream to the Chumby. It's sort of cool to have the music going and having the Chumby widgets cycling on the screen. Makes me wonder why we never saw some good partnerships happening between Chumby and Slimdevices. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78510 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
local.bin;542767 Wrote: > The fact is the booms connected to the touch server are 5 minutes slow Is the time on the Touch and the Boom's in sync? Does the Touch have a different time than the Boom that is using the Touch as a server? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
I believe it comes from mysqueezebox.com. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
I believe it comes from mysqueezebox.com. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'n Dash
I should mention that I did have hopes for the Dash to be a little more open and only found it was closed after purchase. This Chumby device is coming to market soon and will be open: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/18/chumby-prototype-with-marvell-innards-spotted-at-mwc-2010/ -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78130 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'n Dash
The Pandora app layout is bad. I have to believe it's because it was designed for the Chumby and now it has too much space with the large screen and different aspect ratio. I'd imagine they will create a new one. It did not come with a remote and I have not taken it apart to see if there is IR. I don't think there is... People should not compare the two on functionality. This is not why I posted. They are different animals in the same appliance category. The Dash just went on sale yesterday. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78130 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'n Dash
Pro: Netflix Amazon video Pandora Lots and lots of Chumby apps. Big screen Sits flat on the table and upright. Con: The ability to play music and video from USB is late and the menu for the feature displays "Coming soon". It's not known when it's coming, but since this feature is plastered all over the docs and website I guess it should be sometime this year ;) Speaker don't sound great. External USB soundcard is not working and the unit wont boot if it's present. Headphone out is marginal. NOT an open system like the Chumby. Crypto signed OS... no SSH...not even running a web server. Likely to support Netflix and Amazon etc. Gotta give to get I suppose. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78130 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'n Dash
The Netflix app is worth the Money actually. +---+ |Filename: netfl2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9809| +---+ -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78130 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'n Dash
I thought people might be interested in seeing a physical comparison of the Touch and the Sony Dash. +---+ |Filename: .jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9807| +---+ -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78130 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Gazjam;541704 Wrote: > Spot on Dan, thanks. > > Knew a windows based program would fix it! ;) Do you prefer using a special program like this over just using windows explorer? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
You really don't need to scp if you just enable sharing on the device. Once sharing is enabled you can treat the Touch live a network drive. Drag and drop files and folders etc. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best Buy/bestbuy.com?
> > Mickey G made a comment in these forums that BB is only interested in > putting digital audio equipment on the floor that has an iPod dock on > it. > I'm going to pick up my "Sony Dash" at Best Buy today so I'll look around ;) http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644695998&N=4294953440 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78060 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
John, Do you know if using a .asoundrc file is possible with the current configuration? From what I am reading using a .asoundrc file might give us some flexibility in making configuration changes without modifying the asound.conf. Perhaps writing the file from a plugin or otherwise -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easiest way to update external HD
What about your previous thread? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77755 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78030 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
John, Much appreciated. By changing the asound.conf to what you had above I was able to get my iBasso D10 working on the usb. I'm happy that I at least know it works with my gear. Now I can try getting getting all outputs to work. I've found some documentation describing the order issue and also combining outputs. Note: for whatever reason I had to pull the power to get things working correctly. Resetting via the button on the back wasn't enough. Also, since the iBasso D10 is limited on the USB I really don't intend to use it in this way. I'll probably pick up a dacport for 96/24 via USB. Thanks again, John. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
I had a look. This is the first time I've looked at this stuff so I'm not sure what I'm looking at just yet. If the unit is already running and I plug in the dac it's assigned card3, but the name is default. The jive_alsa process with device is default is already running. I see above you said this was a virtual card. I tried killing the jive_alsa process for the default device and starting it back up with the usb card, but since it's id is also 'default' I wasn't very lucky. I did play around shutting off and turning on the sound by killing and starting the jive_alsa process. A crashed it a few times doing this :) How can I start jive_also so I can output to my dac given that it can be recognized as: Code: card 1: default [USB Audio CODEC ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 or Code: card 3: default [USB Audio CODEC ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Request: Simpler Method for Assigning Static IP
You should turn off dhcp on your AP. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Great stuff JohnSwenson;541039 Wrote: > > The headphone out can also be shared by the IR blaster circuit. There > is an enable signal to each (headphone amp and IR blaster). I haven't > looked carefully at that circuit to see exactly what it does. I've been digging around for this info since I've seen references for some of the older units. If anyone knows were I can find documentation on using lua to send ir codes out the headphone port I'd appreciate it. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
I'm curious if the song is ending early according to the countdown on the now playing screen. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
I tried Prime for a while and found that it really didn't make much difference. I can still order many products and get them within a couple of days with the free saver shipping. I think it's mainly because I have lived in a few locations that are very close to their distribution hubs. I think its a very interesting product. I'd love to see the metrics on the actual usage and how profitable it is for Amazon. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
I tried Prime for a while and found that it really didn't make much difference. I can still order many products and get them within a couple of days with the free saver shipping. I think it's mainly because I have lived in a few locations that are very close to their distribution hubs. I think its a very interesting product. I'd love to see the metrics on the actual usage and how profitable it is for Amazon. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
Does SC even consider the rate of the next song to play? What if you were running random or shuffle with a mix of rates? How do we expect the unit to handle going from 96/24 to 44/15 and back? So is this a bug or an enhancement request? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
Perhaps overkill for files that can be replicated around without impacts... but I appreciate the geek factor. I've been able to trick the Touch to use an NFS share instead of local storage so there are "interesting" things you can do. Just buy one. I'm sure you will have fun with it. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
t0mg;540605 Wrote: > Hi All, > > I've searched both the forums and the wiki regarding the supported > file-systems for external media attached through the Touch's USB > interface, but couldn't find a detailed list. > > Do any of the devs know specifically what file-systems does the touch > support? Does it support XFS file-system? > > I keep all my music on an external hard disk formatted with XFS for > performance reasons (I've been burnt with EXT3/4)and if the touch > doesn't support XFS for external media it's a show stopper for me. I > look forward to your answers! > > t0mg I'm curious. Are you really going to stop your show because of your drive format? External drives are pretty cheap these days. Would you consider a mirror of your music on another drive that is one of the supported file systems? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
You don't need a powered hub if your drive is powered externally. That's interesting. You are running ethernet, yes? I need to try this now. I'm curious to see just how much I can influence a difference by doing bad things. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Cool. Interesting. Looks like power may have an impact. Have a powered usb hub to try the diff? ;) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
John, Cool. Is there something I can tweak on my side to give it a try without a full blown applet? I'm ok without plug n play. If all it needs is a soft reset or power cycle to reconnect or enable the USB out that seems reasonable. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
Phil Leigh;540546 Wrote: > I'm starting to see where your forum name comes from... Yes :) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
I acknowledge the issue, but the Touch is still working for hirez material so I'm not sure it's correct to say "I cannot use my Touch on hirez material". He can, but it's not ideal. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
paalj;540534 Wrote: > Phil, > > As it is now I cannot use my Touch on hirez material. > Why? Also, anything stopping you from calling support or opening a bug? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Phil Leigh;540489 Wrote: > Well... the presence/absence of connected headphones has a much smaller > (measured) effect on SBS replay than it does on TinySC replay. Also the > impact is still greater on the right channel with both SBS and TinySC. > > I'd need to study the circuit diagram and physical board layout to even > hazard a guess at this l/r discrepancy...with phones connected and > why the connection of phones seems to affect TinySC more than SBS. Do you have an SD card to test TinySC with USB and SD to see if it's a power issue? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
Perhaps some process crashed on you ;) Give it a factory reset to see if you get get it to stutter again ...heh. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Phil Leigh;540401 Wrote: > ... > Don't knock it until you've tried it. > > There is no difference at all in the s/pdif stream (which is captured > perfectly, using the soundcard locked to the Touch clock) using > internal or external streaming. They are identical. Ok. I'll give it a go. When you see a difference how do you know it's actually audible and not something that's masked by the content? The test approach would be to baseline with whatever AD you have regardless of quality? I struggle with this a bit since you probably want to have as high of resolution as possible in theory to make this work well. wrt SPDIF I think the testing would want to look for Jitter which would/could impact the DAC on the receiving end and result in audible differences. I don't think this software is going to help at all with jitter testing. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Output to USB DAC?
John, I posted a duplicate thread because I didn't see this one. How is this coming along? I'd be interested in getting a Dacport working with the Touch: http://centrance.com/products/dacport/ I also have an iBasso D10 to play with if you need some testers. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70407 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
peterw, Thanks for the reference. For whatever reason my search didn't turn up the thread, but with the poster info I was able to find: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70407 Yes, the Dacport is supposed to be a very good USB powered DAC + headphone amp. From the reviews on Head-Fi it's one of the best. I like my iBasso D10 as well, but the manual battery babysitting is getting old since I mostly use it at the office. The iBasso also has a limit on the USB and can't do 96/24 (it can on the spdif). Thanks again for the response. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
Can Touch support or potentially support a USB DAC? I'm seeing some references like snd_usb_audio that make me think it might be possible. I tried my iBasso D10 by just plugging it in and resetting the Touch and trying to play something, but no joy. That's as far as I got. Anyone have any information or insight on the topic? This isn't anything critical, but I think it's interesting. I'm curious because I am looking at getting a DacPort and i might be more convinced to throw down $400 if the Touch could host it. http://centrance.com/products/dacport/ -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
pfarrell;540327 Wrote: > > Nice Ad hominem attack. > An Ad hominem attack would be to call you a hater or buzzkill. I would not consider the observation he made of your post an Ad hominem attack. Just sayin'. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
John, Perhaps you can leverage one of the IR shortcuts that can be programmed? e.g. Holding down the 4 or the 6 to move balance left or right? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Grahame;540275 Wrote: > As a starting point I'd suggest capturing the analogue output, and then > comparing with audio diff maker to establish that there is a measurable > difference. > > See elsewhere on this forum for the use of audio diff maker. I don't think this is going to work. You will never ever be able to record a bit for bit sample from an analog output. Because of this your comparisons will always be off. You might want to consider using test tones, but I'd imagine that's going to have it's own issues... Also, you have switched from talking about spdif to analog outputs. Since you are not using analog outputs do you care about them or have we moved away from talking about jitter on the spdif to jitter internal to the unit? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Grahame;540275 Wrote: > As a starting point I'd suggest capturing the analogue output, and then > comparing with audio diff maker to establish that there is a measurable > difference. > > See elsewhere on this forum for the use of audio diff maker. I don't think this is going to work. You will never ever be able to record a bit for bit sample from an analog output. Because of this your comparisons will always be off. You might want to consider using test tones, but I'd imagine that's going to have it's own issues... Also, you have switched from talking about spdif to analog outputs. Since you are not using analog outputs do you care about them or have we moved away from talking about jitter on the spdif to jitter internal to the unit? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Thanks. I appreciate everything below this line: pippin;540295 Wrote: > > To begin with, let's answer your question (although for the 4th time) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
soundcheck;540271 Wrote: > > Since you read about my Linux background, you might guess that I > applied your mentioned tweaks already. ;) THX anyhow. Really, because you were so vague in your posts about what you have done and what you are trying to focus on (thus the comment about testing methodology) we could not have assumed anything. What do you want specifically from the community? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
You have many many variables above what you have stated to deal with. First, you haven't mentioned what connection you are using. You do mention Jitter. Is this the only item you are considering to impact the quality? If so perhaps if you are in the business you might send your device to some of the testing houses that provide the testing service for Jitter on hardware devices. There are several. If you don't want to go that far and you want the community to participate you may want to make your full system specs available was well as a test file. It's doubtful that there will be great numbers of people with your same hardware so you might want to consider reducing the hardware components down to a bare minimum in order to get more involvement. You may want to check the other threads on disabling wlan. Last I checked nobody was sure if the radio was off even if the drivers were not loaded. You also might want to set your screen saver to turn the display off during your tests. This will reduce interference from the backlight. Good luck -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Mnyb;540258 Wrote: > The Controller can control the Touch if you have an external squeezebox > server running, if you don't use the internal one. > It's how most of use the Touch right now as a player without using the > internal server option. Ok. Gotcha. If the server (running on another box) can control the Touch how is it doing this? What's the interface on the Touch that the Server would use to control aspects of the Touch? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
How does the IR code architecture work? When an IR command is captured by the hardware on the Touch what happens? Can I assume that there is some native library on the OS that captures that and somehow passed that to what you are calling the "server"? When I press the ffw button the IR remote for the Touch what are the series of events that happen to both update the UI and execute the action? What is the lowest level at which SqueezeOS devices can talk to each other? If TinySBS is not running on the Touch can the Controller still control the Touch? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a serial port/header on the board?
Phil Leigh;540232 Wrote: > Pounce - you are being too sensitive - that's both Peter and I you've > had a (very mild) go at today. Please remember most people are not > being negative most of the time! > Good luck with your project. > Phil Perhaps with as many posts as you both have and as casual as you are in the posting you don't really know how your post come across to people that don't know you or don't read your other posts. I run forums myself so I understand the "culture". -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
pippin;540229 Wrote: > What do you mean by "native"? > The question is whether you implement this on the Touch (no remote > control other than IR) like e.g. the diagnostics menu or in the server. > The latter includes extensive UI work and probably settings sync with > MySB and is less likely to happen due to this. Not being as intimate with the inner working as much as you or many of the others...By Native I mean to add the functionality as core code and not in the form of an applet or otherwise. Are you suggesting that the Controller cannot control a Touch when you say "no remote control other than IR"? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a serial port/header on the board?
No worries. Having serial on the board would have made for a less messy mating to an arduino. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch hard drive on net?
I've found the remote access flaky and unstable. I'm not surprised at the trouble people are having connecting. As a matter of fact when I look at the feature on the touch right now it's not seeing the SD card that it's currently playing from. I think there are some bugs in this area. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77709 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Phil Leigh;540216 Wrote: > These "bootleg live concerts".. are they legal then :-) > In many cases, yes. I've found some good stuff on Archive.org. Perhaps I used the word bootleg wrong. ;) > It looks to be quite easy to implement... What are your thoughts about using the remote or a remote? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
pippin;540212 Wrote: > It would not work with the controller either without a plugin. I was really suggesting something native. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] How to capture screen shots on Touch?
I'm finding a lot of bugs on the Touch that could benefit from having some supporting screen shots of the issues. I know on the Controller there is a key combination for capturing screen shots. Is there something similar for the Touch? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77904 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
pfarrell;540192 Wrote: > > > THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT. [/color] > > I completely don't follow this. Of course it has a headphone output, > and > if you use headphones, the one big argument that sometime you are not > sitting in the sweet spot goes right out the window. > When you are using the headphone out there isn't even a chance of other customer equipment between the Touch and the listener. This means that there is typically no way to put the issue of some form of balance control on the customer by using their receiver etc. This means that if a person is listening off the headphone jack and is in need of some balance control due to a a situation (bootleg live concert, hearing problem etc) they don't have any ability to do so. When comparing the use cases for a balance control it's a little easier to lower the priority when you look at the outputs to customer equipment like the spdif's and analog out. The point is that when you consider the use case of the headphone jack the onus is on the Touch almost completely. Does that help? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
If this was really needed via remote I would imagine the two options would be using a Controller or using a universal remote. Implementing with a Controller would probably be the the most ideal since you would pick up a lot of functionality and would be dealing with SqueezeOS on both devices, but more costly for the end user. A universal remote could add some IR codes which could then be passed into the event system to address balance. I looked for documentation on the IR events, but didn't find much. I did not look through the code or see if this code is public. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Thanks for the clarification. Your question: > > Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? > ..does come across a bit challenging, but forums are silent and we don't have any visual cues to know how we mean things. I think the 'really' in the question gave the tone. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] NAS Connection
There is a forum for this approach. http://forums.slimdevices.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77895 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote: > Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? Phil, I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if you believe the feature is one that should be added. THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT. I don't think it's unreasonable to think people might want or expect some of the basic functionality they seem to have in their other electronics that produce sound. Now sure why so many people are defensive on the issue and are being so negative to the issue instead of just saying "Sure, I can see how people might benefit from this feature" and then just move on... Killing peoples ideas and challenging them on their needs when you are a more Sr member alienates the new members. I'm just not sure why this community needs to say things like: > > ...But don't hold your breath waiting or it... > I think it would be better for Logitech to be making this kind of statement unless we enjoy being totally negative and want to help give customers the impression (real or not) that development on this new product is poorly supported and that they should just return the device /rant -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote: > Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? Phil, I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if you believe the feature is one that should be added. THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT. I don't think it's unreasonable to think people might want or expect some of the basic functionality they seem to have in their other electronics that produce sound. Now sure why so many people are defensive on the issue and are being so negative to the issue instead of just saying "Sure, I can see how people might benefit from this feature" and then just move on... Killing peoples ideas and challenging them on their needs when you are a more Sr member alienates the new members. I'm just not sure why this community needs to say things like: > > ...But don't hold your breath waiting or it... > I think it would be better for Logitech to be making this kind of statement unless we enjoy being totally negative and want to help give customers the impression (real or not) that development on this new product is poorly supported and that they should just return the device /rant -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Don't forget that the humans sometimes in their older years or after some damage in their youth lose some hearing and require adjustments left and right. Just sayin' that while it can sometimes seem like it's obvious to adjust the content the feature has some real purpose for some people. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to lock audio output at 100% (I think)
Perhaps it would be better to conditionally force the volume based on a setting value vs hard coding it in this way. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77837 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] So, can we now have apodising please?
With those kind of numbers it would probably be cheaper to donate to the SoX project and have them build it opensource. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77869 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a serial port/header on the board?
Thanks. Was hopeful. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a serial port/header on the board?
Can anyone tell me if there is a serial header on the Touch board? Anyone done a complete breakdown with photos? I'm exploring options to use the Touch as a control for my system with some hacks. Having some onboard serial would make things a bit easier. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77871 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What's your dream screen saver ?
iPhone;539815 Wrote: > Joanna Krupa See, the problem with that is that when you touch it will disappear. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77851 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
How hard is it to add UI buttons to the existing screens that add functionality? I can see removing some items from now playing or shortening the volume slider and adding a button to simply toggle the screen off screen saver. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connection to mysqueezebox.com not happening
Try holding down the little black button above the power supply plug on the back of the unit to do a factory reset. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77833 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Very impressed! question though re: headphones
All outputs are active at the same time. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
paalj;539524 Wrote: > Hi, > sorry, "zapping" means changing track Is this a common term somewhere? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Zapping? Tapping? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local Music Server Stopped
I saw this happen this morning on my Touch running from an SD card. I think it's sharing related because I have sharing turned on, but I'm not able to connect to the Touch after this error message. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77782 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
I can imagine some sort of burn in for speakers when they are new since they have some moving parts. I can imagine letting your equipment warm to the operating temperature might make some difference. Maybe 5 minutes. I can also imagine letting electronics run for a few days when you get them might held you uncover any defects in manufacturing quicker since things typically fail in the first few days. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
JohnSwenson;539000 Wrote: > I'm running the official firmware that everybody else should be using. What version are you running? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Performance comparison between my old Server and Touch internal one?
Gazjam;538820 Wrote: > Have always used a server (of course!) to run my SB3, but with the Touch > on its way I'm curious about the idea of using its own server rather > than having to have the PC on? > > Some info: > My server is an old Dell GX260SFF P4 2Ghz with 1B ram running windows > XP. > I use an external WD 1TB USB hardrive to supply the FLAC files. > I use IPENG to control my music...about 36000 tracks last count. > > The SB3 was wired to an Access Point in the same room, which in turn > was wired to the main router connected to my modem. > The only wireless part of the setup was my wifi connection from the > ipod to an access point in the same room as my SB3 > > Now sometimes I got slowdowns when using the SB3, and I had just put it > down to my server being an old computer..but people are using EVEN > LESSER spec PCs (and not just running Linux ;)) without any problems. > I noticed it particularly with SS 7.5...the MYSQL was running 92% CPU > on XP, which caused slowdown. > > Not a major drama, slowdowns come up now and again not all the time but > it IS a bit of a pain. > > I wondered if the slowdownds were with the SB3 itself, and the Touch, > with its uprated CPU and memory,would not have this issue? > > On paper my PC Server has enough horsepower to run my music centre..so > any thoughts, ideas or opinions welcome! > > Of course, the best way to find out is for me to just TRY it (which I > will), but Im just wondering what you thought. > > Ta. Do you own the Touch? It's not clear from your post if you are talking about things being slow with the Touch and external server or if you are just asking if the Touch server is going to perform better than your server. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77733 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
JohnSwenson;538756 Wrote: > > Given the lack of problems that I've had I'm wondering what I'm doing > differently. > What firmware version are you running? I think you mentioned you were a beta customer. Do you know if the hardware you have is production spec? Out of curiosity, what 24/96 tracks are you using and are these available to the public somewhere? Wondering if we can start you taking a methodical approach to testing that can be repeated by others. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Arguing with a troll is like mud wrestling with a pig. After a while you realize the pig likes it. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
I honestly meant it as factual without any tone or intent of attack. Working in IT at a large scale I have a different perspective and I can imagine that perspectives are different in smaller company. My apologies to anyone that may have been offended. Honestly. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
You must not work at a company of any size or have anything to do with IT infrastructure. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
I almost agree, but would state that in an enterprise DHCP is better even with mostly static machines because of the extra management bells and whistles it provides. Yes, even servers get DHCP. At the home with consumer grade equipment and less need to manage pools of IP's and changing infrastructure do what works for the issue at hand. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
If you look at the OP's past posts you see a trend of being pretty negative. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Phil Leigh;538202 Wrote: > Not really. Light transitions travel just as well through plastic as > "glass" over a few meters. And - to make toslink work - it really > doesn't have to travel all that well. One of my best friends owns a > company that actually makes fibre... It has to handle WAY more > bandwidth than Toslink.. > The real "problem" with toslink/optical are the transition points from > cable to opto-isolator/driver. > There really (almost) isn't such a thing as a "crappy" plastic cable - > but there are badly finished ends that scatter...and poorly fitting > connectors. > Anyway, this is way OT now! I'll disagree with you and move on. Plenty of testing to show there is a difference. Big difference between a consumer toslink cable and a fibre cable. Don't forget these cables are fragile. Bad cables and even high quality glass cables can be damaged and still technically work, but not work well. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Phil Leigh;538187 Wrote: > ? - both toslink and s/pdif are "digital". > sure. I think you know what I meant... coax.. but you are right to back hand me. :P > > The quality of a toslink cable is actually much less important than the > quality of the terminations at both ends. Well, good terminators and a crappy plastic cable between isn't going to help. It's everything. The terminators, cable and receivers. Higher quality is required for less jitter where coax can get by cheaper. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Lots of debate on toslink, but in the end it typically has less bandwidth than digital. A PCF toslink cable is what you want for any distance with less chance of damage. If you have groundloop issues and don't need to run over a few feet then toslink is ideal. toslink is also more dependent on good components to eliminate jitter. Digital is much more likely to do 24/96 or 24/192. I use both. Using digital on the Touch at the moment. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
Thanks. I'm confused about seeing mice and keyboards on this list. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
Is there a list of drives that have been tested or can we start a wiki for drives indicating what works and what doesn't? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
Is there a list of drives that have been tested or can we start a wiki for drives indicating what works and what doesn't? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
JohnSwenson;537754 Wrote: > > The easiest way to do this is run a cable from the Touch to a laptop > ethernet port (NOT the switch or router on your LAN), assuming the > laptop is NOT running a DHCP server. Go to settings>advanced>networking > and choose the network type as ethernet, this will try and connect to a > DHCP server over the wire. It won't find one, then give you the option > to use a static IP, say yes and enter the address. Unplug the wire from > the laptop and go back to your normal connection (wired or wireless). That should go in the wiki. Good trick. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
Since we have a few threads discussing exactly the same topic I'm posting this as reference to a basic matrix that could be used for your investigation. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=537048#post537048 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
JohnSwenson;537727 Wrote: > I'm one of the beta testers, so yes I have a Touch. I've run a lot of > 24/96 on the Touch without a bit of problem, I'm trying to get a handle > on what configuration is causing what problems for people so we can try > and get to the bottom of what is happening and see if its possible to > work out a solution. > > John S. Try this post. I created a basic matrix. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=537048#post537048 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch's Handling of High Rez Music Files
Is this a pre-sales question? The Touch does not download files. You can play them from a local drive or SD card or you can use the Touch with a remotely installed SBS to play your files over the network. DAC sound is too subjective. Since you can hook up with analog and digital to your receiver you might just want to try both and do a blind test and just use the one *you* think sounds better. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77624 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
John, Do you have a Touch? There are several threads on the same topic really discussing a lot of these point. I think you have restated many of the issues well. In a nutshell using an external server works best. Obviously, this is not how the Touch was designed to be positioned, but for 24/96 that seems to work best. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
