Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-27 Thread neeraj0272

neeraj0272;690196 Wrote: 
> Update: after 5 days of use of my hdd, so far not a single issue. My hdd
> goes into sleep mode after ten minutes or so. After 8-10 hours of sleep,
> it jumps into action and starts playing music in 2-3 seconds. So far
> very pleased with the result and no need to turn on my pc.
> Now I will gradually add some artwork of size 150*150 . I will stop and
> back off at the first sign of problem as I really don't need the artwork
> and will be happy with whatever little I can get.

Update: after I introduced artwork of the recommended size, the problem
that I faced was that  sometimes in some songs , in the beginning and
near the end there is a slight flickering interruption in audio. It is
random .
2 days back I introduced some new music to the hdd and the problem of
"local music service stopped" appeared. tried to resolve the issue by
rescanning music library and deleting artwork files by sharing sbt
wirelessly on my android phone but got no success. Artwork was still
appearing for new music. then i thought about the embedded artwork. And
sure these new music files had embedded art work of the size I think 2
mb! 
Now once again after completely sanitizing my hdd and removing all
artwork I have attached it to sbt.
I dont need artwork and I think that way my sbt on hdd will work fine.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-15 Thread congole

Further to my post 10 days ago and neeraj's action, I removed a part of
artwork and files from my HDD and using latest firmware 7.7.1 tried to
do a clean scan... failed. So I removed more files - now instead of
original 17k-18k audio files and cca 1350 image files there remained
cca 14k audio file and cca 900 image files ... failed. Factory reset,
wipe & scan ... failed. But during these several days I noticed
something strange: with the original number of files the scan would
always break after cca 225 image files scanned, while after offloading
the HDD and then further lowering that number the scan would break
earlier - in the end it was before it would reach 160-170 image files
(!)
So I flashed it back to 7.5.4. did a factory reset and started yet
another wipe & scan ... success! I am now putting back in batches the
files I moved off the drive temporarily and set it scan from the
previous point reached and for now it works. So, I guess I will
definitely remain on 7.5.4 for a long time (this procedure prevented me
to listen to some music for quite some time now and that makes me really
nervous ;-) ).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-11 Thread neeraj0272

neeraj0272;688776 Wrote: 
> After sorting out all potential trouble maker issues, now my usb hdd has
> only mp3, flac and wma files. Wifi strength is around 90%. 
> I will be watching it for 2-3 days. If it still gives  trouble then I
> will go back to using my pc.

Update: after 5 days of use of my hdd, so far not a single issue. My
hdd goes into sleep mode after ten minutes or so. After 8-10 hours of
sleep, it jumps into action and starts playing music in 2-3 seconds. So
far very pleased with the result and no need to turn on my pc.
Now I will gradually add some artwork of size 150*150 . I will stop and
back off at the first sign of problem as I really don't need the artwork
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] "Local music service stopped" after update (using USB HDD)

2012-02-09 Thread congole

Check this thread:
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-09 Thread congole

dasmueller;689140 Wrote: 
> It appears you can determine which file Tiny SBS is crashing on ?  
> ...
> It is odd that when you run wifi there is no issue. Something in a file
> or files that Tiny SC is not liking.

I tried to pinpoint the file, but it does not appear in the log file
(even after I put some of the relevant log settings to "debug" level).

And other than the drive being attached to the USB (1.5TB, NTFS, 450GB
full), I use only wifi to connect to it or to Internet through my
gateway.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] "Local music service stopped" after update (using USB HDD)

2012-02-08 Thread Dave1972

I had exactly the same problem - music service stopping for some unknown
reason. For the last 24 hours I could only scan in half a dozen albums
or so (and had to move most of my data into a folder starting with a
full-stop to prevent it scanning) or else the music service stopped
while scanning.

My fix: I did a factory reset, then went to Settings and downloaded and
installed the latest firmware again. It's now working fine (or as fine
as we expect this fragile machine to work - I'm sure it's only a matter
of time!)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-08 Thread Dave1972

Welcome to the world of buggy, under-resourced Logitech server! I still
get this problem frequently (although not half as much as I used to in
the early days before the firmware was significantly improved). Artwork
does NOT havr to be 150x150 max. Mine is typically 768x768, and I have
had everything working smoothly on many occasions. I think the only
answer is to invest some cash into an external server, which I intend
to do at some point. As things are now, I only have about half of my
music collection loaded onto the Touch at any one time (I have to store
half of my files in a folder that starts with a full-stop to stop them
being scanned).
Maybe Logitech will produce a Touch mkII that will have more built-in
memory (that would be ideal) but until then, either get an external NAS
or similar server - or put up with the bugs and crashes and limitations
of the tiny server.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-06 Thread dasmueller

congole;689130 Wrote: 
> Here's one note to support the "always" part: when the artwork scan
> starts it looks like in my case it really crashes at the same point
> (cca 215/1220) every time(!) 
> 
> And for the "development" part: How come that after all this
> optimization it manages to pass somehow this stage (1 or 2 repeats)
> with an almost a year old firmware release (latest 7.5.4)?

It appears you can determine which file Tiny SBS is crashing on ?  If
so, I would suggest you move that file off that drive and see if you
can complete a full rescan. If that scan works then the file causing
the problem needs to be looked at. Post as much detailed info about it
as possible so folks here can see if something jumps out at them.

I ran Tiny SC w SBS 7.5.3 for about a yr until I decided to get a
router and go wifi. Updated to 7.7.1 a few months back and have had no
issues. Scans are a lot faster and no more issues w reconnecting after
PC restarts like I had w 7.5.3. 7.7.2 I believe is still in the beta
stage so if you decide to update you may want to use 7.7.1.

It is odd that when you run wifi there is no issue. Something in a file
or files that Tiny SC is not liking.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-06 Thread congole

Mnyb;688900 Wrote: 
> And there are some embarrisng issues with the onboard server and the
> Touch.
> 
> ...
> 
> Which tells us that with some content it will always crash ?
> 
> ... 
> a development where it can spit out problem files and log them without
> crashing is needed...

Here's one note to support the "always" part: when the artwork scan
starts it looks like in my case it really crashes at the same point
(cca 215/1220) every time(!) 

And for the "development" part: How come that after all this
optimization it manages to pass somehow this stage (1 or 2 repeats)
with an almost a year old firmware release (latest 7.5.4)?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-05 Thread Mnyb

And there are some embarrisng issues with the onboard server and the
Touch.

It has only 128mB of ram and no swapfile .

A person on this forum managed to get a swapfile running on a sd card
or usb stick ?
And noticed that during some phases of the scan it was actually used .

Which tells us that with some content it will always crash ?

So more optimisation of the onboard Tiny server is needed if it's ever
going to work for everyone :-/

Make it just don't process to large artwork and non jpg art ?
A mode without artwork ?

Even when running the server on better hardware there are rare files
that can crash the scanner.
Which is bizzare , a development where it can spit out problem files
and log them without crashing is needed...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-05 Thread garym

congole;688833 Wrote: 
> You are right (I actually forgot about that one) - though I hoped that
> someone from Logitech occasionally looks through these threads as well
> (Maybe not all users are technically so apt but would certainly know
> what they would like to see as a feature or hate as an annoying
> problem, and if I had a product like this on the market I would
> certainly want to know the public response and consequently be able to
> properly correct my approach).

I'm guessing the answer is rarely or not at all do they look
herewe're probably lucky that they haven't shut down these forums
altogether given the existence of official forums.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-05 Thread congole

garym;688807 Wrote: 
> ...if you want anyone from logitech to read your request, you'll need to
> post at the logitech official forums ... or post a bug ...

You are right (I actually forgot about that one) - though I hoped that
someone from Logitech occasionally looks through these threads as well
(Maybe not all users are technically so apt but would certainly know
what they would like to see as a feature or hate as an annoying
problem, and if I had a product like this on the market I would
certainly want to know the public response and consequently be able to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-05 Thread garym

congole;688801 Wrote: 
>  I would really like to hear from someone from Logitech on the
> alternatives to overcome this problem instead of having the software
> killing the process that is experiencing the problem itself.

This is a good forum to get other user feedback/help, but if you want
anyone from logitech to read your request, you'll need to post at the
logitech official forums (links below) or post a bug if you want
attention by the developers(link below, but post back here with link
for bug to get voters).  This forum is simply users helping other users
and not officially read by logitech.

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/bd-p/mysqueezebox
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/bd-p/squeezeboxplayers
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-05 Thread congole

Here is the update: 
' Used the latest 7.7.2. firmware. Wipe & Rescan. Discovery - fine.
Audio files scan - fine. Artwork scan - cca 1000 discovered, scan starts
and than the LMS/TinySC stops. I went through the log and it is again
the same low memory/out of memory problem; the LMS/TinySC "experiences
a problem" actually because the script calls out the kill command to
kill the LMS process (!). I would really like to hear from someone from
Logitech on the alternatives to overcome this problem instead of having
the software killing the process that is experiencing the problem
itself.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-05 Thread neeraj0272

After sorting out all potential trouble maker issues, now my usb hdd has
only mp3, flac and wma files. Wifi strength is around 90%. 
I will be watching it for 2-3 days. If it still gives trouble then I
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-05 Thread Rgke

Interesting.  I spent hours resizing all my artwork to 150 x 150 which
did not solve the problem...

However I have just found an .m4p file lurking which I didn't know
about!

I'll report back in a couple of days if this solves the problem.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-04 Thread congole

neeraj0272;688515 Wrote: 
> Are you sure you have removed all vid files? In my case there was one
> .m4a vid file that I had overlooked and did not delete. after deleting
> it, it is running smoothly. 

You actually were right that one .avi file kept being overlooked! Thank
you for pointing that possibility! I will see during next week or so if
a new firmware comes out (there was 7.7.2 something on the server) and
will test (as it means wipe & scan all the 20k+ files from the scratch
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-03 Thread neeraj0272

congole;688389 Wrote: 
> It actually may  be related to artwork, but not just the size of image
> files. I am experiencing this quite often (unfortunatley) as I am using
> a much large HDD with a large number of files. My artwork files are all
> under 50k (there may be some zip files on the drive besides the flac or
> mp3, but they are not being catalogued in the tinysc db) - so I guess
> the sheer number of files can provoque errors. I checked the log files
> and it is always logged as touch's tiny squeezecenter experiencing an
> out of memory (or similar) error. This is why in the end I always
> return back to the latest 7.5.4 firmware release - with this one I
> actually manage to scan all the files (and listen to some music); later
> ones start great but eventually break at after the audio files scan
> finishes and the artwork scan starts.

Are you sure you have removed all vid files? In my case there was one
.m4a vid file that I had overlooked and did not delete. after deleting
it, it is running smoothly. Also my network strength was poor and it
was giving me rebuffering problem. Now I have simply attached a wifi
router near my players and now they are both playing different flac
files of even 24\96 simultaneously rather smoothly. 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-03 Thread congole

It actually may  be related to artwork, but not just the size of image
files. I am experiencing this quite often (unfortunatley) as I am using
a much large HDD with a large number of files. My artwork files are all
under 50k (there may be some zip files on the drive besides the flac or
mp3, but they are not being catalogued in the tinysc db) - so I guess
the sheer number of files can provoque errors. I checked the log files
and it is always logged as touch's tiny squeezecenter experiencing an
out of memory (or similar) error. This is why in the end I always
return back to the latest 7.5.4 firmware release - with this one I
actually manage to scan all the files (and listen to some music); later
ones start great but eventually break at after the audio files scan
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-02 Thread neeraj0272

toby10;688046 Wrote: 
> The only way to find out if adding a USB extension cable will work is to
> try it and see.  Too many variables to be a universal Yes/No result.  :)

Ok. Will do that after completing my testing of  my hdd setup. Update
about that is that when I reached home from work , sbt showed "local
music service stopped". I had to start the server again but I was able
to play the music soon after starting the server as music started even
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-02 Thread toby10

The only way to find out if adding a USB extension cable will work is to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-01 Thread neeraj0272

I too have attached my old 3.5'  160 gb seagate barracuda internal ide
hdd by using a USB external enclosure with power supply . at present it
has nothing but 50gb of audio files compatible with squeezebox touch. I
have removed all type of artwork embedded or otherwise. So this hdd
contains only mp3, flac and wma files. For the past 24 hours it is
working beautifully. When music is not playing, it stops or spin down
after 10 minutes or so. At the touch of a button on my remote or
android mobile it jumps into action in a second. After overnight sleep
of 6 hours also, it was ready in a second.
After monitoring it for 2-3 days, I will put artwork of 150*150 into it
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-02-01 Thread Rgke

Ok, I've been through all the artwork and resized it.  I'll monitor it
over the next few days.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-01-31 Thread dasmueller

I believe the recommended max artwork size for using TinySC is 150x150


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2012-01-30 Thread Rgke

I know this is  a few months old but I'm having the same problem. I'm
using the Touch as a self contained unit with a 32Gb class 4 card.

How did you manage to find out this was the problem? I can't see any
way of debugging this device.  What sort of artwork size was  causing
the problem?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] "Local music service stopped" after update (using USB HDD)

2012-01-08 Thread bitstopjoe

Very welcome and if you feel brave you can let it update to 7.7.1 again.
At least you know a way to go back..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] "Local music service stopped" after update (using USB HDD)

2012-01-08 Thread harryfink

Thanks a lot! I tried the 7.6.2 - it's still going through all the
songs, but I am successfully playing a song via the Music Folder. Will
get back to you if problems occur, but so far I'm optimistic! Thanks
again :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] "Local music service stopped" after update (using USB HDD)

2012-01-07 Thread bitstopjoe

Go here http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/  and get the last
version which worked on your Touch. Copy the file to the root of your
attached USB drive, do a software update and choose the file you just
copied there. Maybe something glitched when yours updated.
Be sure to d/l the fab4x.bin file. Just a FYI, if you are using
Internet Explorer it seems to want to save a bin file as zip. Be sure
to change it back to bin before you copy it to your Touch USB drive.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] "Local music service stopped" after update (using USB HDD)

2012-01-07 Thread harryfink

Hi,

I did the recent firmware upgrade for my Touch that renames the server
to Logitech Media Server.

After this, I constantly get the "Local music service stopped" error.
Most of the time I can't even connect to the server, and when I can it
dies during or right after playing just 1 song.

I have a USB HDD (WD Passport USB 2.0 with around 100 GB of music on
it) attached, and it worked just fine before the update.

I've ensured that there are only playable music files on the drive
(i.e. no pdf's or jpg's or anything that would confuse it).

I've also tried deleting the database folder to force a rescan of
everything.

Nothing has worked, and frustration is growing rapidly...

Any ideas?

Thanks lots in advance,
Mikkel


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2011-05-30 Thread L.B.

Well, it seems that the problem had to do with the size of artwork
files. It would have been nice if that problem was mentioned in the
trouble shooting guide - that would have saved me many hours :-( 

A new problem is that many of the albums figure twice now ???


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2011-05-27 Thread L.B.

This is the screen:


+---+
|Filename: 200px-Unable_to_start_Squeezebox_Server.jpg  |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11904|
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[SlimDevices: Touch] Local music service stopped :-(

2011-05-26 Thread L.B.

I have tried with 3 different USB cabels, 3 different HDD and 2
different SB Touch. Each time I get this screen when the disk has been
scanned:
Local music service stopped

I have tried to do what is stated in the troubleshooting guide, but
still the same problem. 
It is driving me crazy! When I use my wifi and squeezeserver everything
works fine with the same HDD and the same SBT. I find that very
strange!
Any help is much appriciated!!


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