[Trac] Re: sync'ing Trac with the subversion repository

2007-01-18 Thread Rainer Sokoll


On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:04:50AM +, Rosalyn Hatcher wrote:


   raise TracError(%s does not appear to be a Subversion repository. \
TracError: /home/nweb/subversion/tutorial_svn does not appear to be a 
Subversion repository.


Is /home/nweb/subversion/tutorial_svn your repository?

Rainer

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[Trac] Re: sync'ing Trac with the subversion repository

2007-01-18 Thread Emmanuel Blot



Unfortunately 0.10.3 isn't available from blastwave currently. Is there
anyone who has successfully managed to
upgrade Trac without using blastwave on Solaris 9 please?  What did you
have to do to get it to install properly?


Unfortunately, I run Trac on Windows, Linux and MacOS - with no
trouble - but I don't use Solaris so I won't be of much help here.

I'm not sure that Trac is the problem here, maybe the problem comes
from the various libraries. For example, see
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2560

Do you have any other error message in you Trac log file?

Cheers,
Manu

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[Trac] Re: sync'ing Trac with the subversion repository

2007-01-18 Thread Rosalyn Hatcher


Rainer Sokoll wrote:


On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:04:50AM +, Rosalyn Hatcher wrote:


   raise TracError(%s does not appear to be a Subversion repository. \
TracError: /home/nweb/subversion/tutorial_svn does not appear to be a 
Subversion repository.


Is /home/nweb/subversion/tutorial_svn your repository?
Yes it is.  I've made no changes to the project configuration or the 
subversion

repository since I upgraded from 0.10 to 0.10.3

Ros.


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[Trac] Re: Problems after upgrade to HEAD

2007-01-18 Thread David Abrahams


Sarah George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


I've been working on the same thing: Getting trac 0.11 usable.  Two of
your problems might be solved by knowing there seems to be a new
setting in trac.ini called base_url... try making sure that's set.


You're right; that helped, thanks!

Now to solve the other issues...

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[Trac] Re: Problems after upgrade to HEAD

2007-01-18 Thread Christian Boos


David Abrahams wrote:


Christian Boos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


David Abrahams wrote:

Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
   span class=c_wordint/span span  
class=c_identifiersomething_result/span span  
class=c_operator=/span span class=c_identifiermodel/ 
span ...
  

Do you have the most recent Genshi? Should be 0.3.6 I think.



I'm using a recent snapshot of their head, I think.  It reports
version '0.4'.
  


... and that can be anything between r317 and the latest.
You must use at least r461 of the trunk, or the released 0.3.6.


I pulled it from the svn HEAD on January 15.



If you install the package by first creating an egg, or at least by 
doing a `python setup.py develop`, then you'll be able to see the actual 
version used by Trac in the About page (provided you have the 
CONFIG_VIEW permission, e.g. when you're logged as the Trac administrator).
You should see something like 0.4dev-rXXX, please check that the XXX is 
= 461.


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[Trac] Limiting users to only seeing their own tickets (or tickets assocaited with a group)

2007-01-18 Thread Charlie


I am trying to use Trac to support a helpdesk application, but I have a
requirement that the customers not be able to see each others' tickets
(so they don't reveal what they are doing to others).  I didn't find
anything obvious on how to do this after a quick review of the on-line
documentation.

Does anyone know if this is possible or already created?

Thanks in advance, 


Charlie


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[Trac] Re: Limiting users to only seeing their own tickets (or tickets assocaited with a group)

2007-01-18 Thread Christian Boos


Charlie wrote:


I am trying to use Trac to support a helpdesk application, but I have a
requirement that the customers not be able to see each others' tickets
(so they don't reveal what they are doing to others).  I didn't find
anything obvious on how to do this after a quick review of the on-line
documentation.

Does anyone know if this is possible or already created?


Not yet possible in stock Trac, but:
- there's a plugin for it on trac-hacks: 
http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/PrivateTicketsPlugin
- the feature request is already tracked 
(http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1316)


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[Trac] Re: Problems after upgrade to HEAD

2007-01-18 Thread David Abrahams


Christian Boos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes about genshi:


You should see something like 0.4dev-rXXX, please check that the XXX
is 

= 461.


It's 485

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[Trac] Welcome message for unauthenticated users on closed Tracs

2007-01-18 Thread David Abrahams



One of my users complained (bitterly) that when he arrives,
unauthenticated, at his Trac, instead of being directed to a login
screen he gets a cryptic message about not having the right privileges
to view the page.  I know he should just get over it, but I have to
admit he's right; it's a bad user interface.  That message only makes
sense on Tracs that can be used without logging in.  Is there
something I can do about this?

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[Trac] Re: Welcome message for unauthenticated users on closed Tracs

2007-01-18 Thread Matthew Gillen


David Abrahams wrote:



One of my users complained (bitterly) that when he arrives,
unauthenticated, at his Trac, instead of being directed to a login
screen he gets a cryptic message about not having the right privileges
to view the page.  I know he should just get over it, but I have to
admit he's right; it's a bad user interface.  That message only makes
sense on Tracs that can be used without logging in.  Is there
something I can do about this?


Of course.  Assuming you're using apache, change the Auth Required scope to
include the root URL, instead of just the /login path.

Ie change something that looks like this:
LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/login
 AuthType Basic
 Require valid-user
/LocationMatch

to this:
LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/
 AuthType Basic
 Require valid-user
/LocationMatch

Matt

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[Trac] Re: Problems after upgrade to HEAD

2007-01-18 Thread Christian Boos


David Abrahams wrote:


Christian Boos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes about genshi:


You should see something like 0.4dev-rXXX, please check that the XXX
is

= 461.


It's 485



Sorry for the trouble, I can reproduce the issue now.
I also realized that there was already a ticket filed about that, 
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4505


I happen to use the Pygments highlighter those days, and this one works 
flawlessly with Trac 0.11, that's why I've missed the issue. But it 
happens for anything else than Pygments...


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[Trac] Re: Problems after upgrade to HEAD

2007-01-18 Thread David Abrahams


Christian Boos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


David Abrahams wrote:


Christian Boos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes about genshi:


You should see something like 0.4dev-rXXX, please check that the XXX
is

= 461.


It's 485



Sorry for the trouble, I can reproduce the issue now.
I also realized that there was already a ticket filed about that,
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4505

I happen to use the Pygments highlighter those days, and this one
works flawlessly with Trac 0.11, that's why I've missed the issue. But
it happens for anything else than Pygments...


Is that something I can install and easily configure trac to use?  I'm
not particularly attached to whatever highlighter it is currently
using.

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[Trac] Re: Welcome message for unauthenticated users on closed Tracs

2007-01-18 Thread David Abrahams


Matthew Gillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


David Abrahams wrote:



One of my users complained (bitterly) that when he arrives,
unauthenticated, at his Trac, instead of being directed to a login
screen he gets a cryptic message about not having the right privileges
to view the page.  I know he should just get over it, but I have to
admit he's right; it's a bad user interface.  That message only makes
sense on Tracs that can be used without logging in.  Is there
something I can do about this?


Of course.  Assuming you're using apache, change the Auth Required scope to
include the root URL, instead of just the /login path.

Ie change something that looks like this:
LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/login
 AuthType Basic
 Require valid-user
/LocationMatch

to this:
LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/
 AuthType Basic
 Require valid-user
/LocationMatch

Matt


I'm using the new AccountManager, one of whose benefits is that the
login screen is a real HTML form.  IIUC, if I do what you're
suggesting, I'll end up with an HTTP auth dialog box instead.

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[Trac] Re: Welcome message for unauthenticated users on closed Tracs

2007-01-18 Thread Matthew Gillen


David Abrahams wrote:


Matthew Gillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


David Abrahams wrote:



One of my users complained (bitterly) that when he arrives,
unauthenticated, at his Trac, instead of being directed to a login
screen he gets a cryptic message about not having the right privileges
to view the page.  I know he should just get over it, but I have to
admit he's right; it's a bad user interface.  That message only makes
sense on Tracs that can be used without logging in.  Is there
something I can do about this?


Of course. Assuming you're using apache, change the Auth Required scope
to include the root URL, instead of just the /login path.

Ie change something that looks like this:
LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/login
 AuthType Basic
 Require valid-user
/LocationMatch

to this:
LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/
 AuthType Basic
 Require valid-user
/LocationMatch



I'm using the new AccountManager, one of whose benefits is that the
login screen is a real HTML form.  IIUC, if I do what you're
suggesting, I'll end up with an HTTP auth dialog box instead.


Yes, that's correct.  That's the extent of my apache-foo (or pitiful lack
thereof).  There very well might be a simple way to tell apache to use a
different mechanism besides AuthType Basic (ie to redirect to the
AccountManager URL), but I've never had occasion to find out.

Perhaps someone else has some better ideas.  I'd be curious to know if you
find a solution though..

Matt

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[Trac] Re: Problems after upgrade to HEAD

2007-01-18 Thread Christian Boos


David Abrahams wrote:


Christian Boos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


...
I happen to use the Pygments highlighter those days, and this one
works flawlessly with Trac 0.11, that's why I've missed the issue. But
it happens for anything else than Pygments...


Is that something I can install and easily configure trac to use?  I'm
not particularly attached to whatever highlighter it is currently
using.



... but you probably will once you've tried Pygments :-)
It's very easy to install and there's no setup configuration to do in 
Trac, as it will preferentially use Pygments.


See http://pygments.pocoo.org/download/

Pygments version 0.6 or 0.7dev should work fine with recent Trac 0.11.

Before giving a try to Pygments, you should also try out my fix for the 
issue (r4597).


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[Trac] Re: upgrade problems with login

2007-01-18 Thread Rick Bradshaw


Matt,
   I have tried with commenting out the rewrite rules and
still end up with the same 500 error. I have even tried without https
completely and I still end up in the same spot.
   I will admit this is quite the baffling problem, and there has
to be something very small or stupid that I am missing.

Thanks for the response
Rick

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Rick Bradshaw wrote:

Here is the config on the working server. sarge with trac 0.9.6 and
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^/$ http://trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects
RewriteRule ^/projects/+$ /projects/index.html [L]
RewriteCond /www/trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects/$1 -d
RewriteRule ^/projects/(.*)(/?.*)   /projects/trac.cgi$2
[S=1,E=TRAC_ENV:/www/trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects/$1]
RewriteRule ^/projects/(.*) /projects/index.html

Here is the config from the upgraded machine that isn't
working. Ubuntu dapper amd64, trac 0.10.3, apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1,
and python 2.4

RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^/$ http://trac2.mcs.anl.gov/projects
RewriteRule ^/projects/+$ /projects/index.html [L]
RewriteRule ^/projects/(.*)/login$
https://trac2.mcs.anl.gov/projects/$1/login [L]RewriteCond
/disks/www/trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects/$1 -d
RewriteRule ^/projects/(.*)(/?.*)   /projects/trac.cgi$2
[S=1,E=TRAC_ENV:/disks/www/trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects/$1]
RewriteRule ^/projects/(.*) /projects/index.html
...

I have already tested and proven that the AuthPAM_Enabled on works
properly as my svn repos and authz tools all work as normal. The
problem I am seeing is that when I click on the login link in my new
trac install I get an apache 500 error in my logs and the trac page
says.

Authentication information not available. Please refer to the
installation documentation.

I am slowly heading towards my wits end. I am sure there is someone
out there who can show me the errors of my ways.


Does it have to do with the https in the rewrite rules in the second case?

Matt




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[Trac] python 2.5 required for trac current svn ?

2007-01-18 Thread Alexander Neundorf


Hi,

the trac wiki (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall )says: 
if using mod_python and xml-related things (like 0.11, or xml-rpc plugin), use python-2.5 (expat is namespaced there and does not cause apache to crash any more)


So, I need python 2.5 if I want to use Trac from svn with mod_python, but 
python 2.3 is ok if I use Trac from svn with fastcgi ?
Do I understand this correctly ?

Thanks
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[Trac] Re: Problems after upgrade to HEAD

2007-01-18 Thread Christian Boos


David Abrahams wrote:


Christian Boos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


... but you probably will once you've tried Pygments :-)
It's very easy to install and there's no setup configuration to do in
Trac, as it will preferentially use Pygments.

See http://pygments.pocoo.org/download/

Pygments version 0.6 or 0.7dev should work fine with recent Trac 0.11.

Before giving a try to Pygments, you should also try out my fix for
the issue (r4597).


Works.  But now, why should I try pygments?



Pygments already supports more languages than the other highlighters.
It also knowns about a bunch of templating languages (e.g. JSP) and can 
highlight not only the markup but also the embedded code expressions.


Plus there's the possibility to select your favorite highlighting theme 
in the Trac preferences ;)


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[Trac] Trac 0.10.3 under Windows IIS 6.0

2007-01-18 Thread Charlie


I currently run Trac 0.10 under Mac OSX, and I am trying to get our IT
department to use Trac on an external web server running Windows Server
2K3.  Before I ask them to dig into bringing Trac onto a Win2K3/IIS6
environment, I wanted to ask if this is known to work.


From browsing the wiki, it looks like it might work.  Can anyone

confirm this?

Or, do we need to run Apache on Windows?  My IT guys are not going to
go there!

Thanks in advance,

Charlie


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[Trac] Re: Welcome message for unauthenticated users on closed Tracs

2007-01-18 Thread Christopher Taylor


My problem was similar but different.  I have a closed Trac
environment in which anonymous has no privileges what so ever.
However, with the UserAccount manager plugin, an unregistered user can
still create an account.  That account has no privileges until I move
it to a registeredusers group, basically authorizing the user.
However, if the users tries to access the system before I move him/her
into the registeredusers group, they get the cryptic (from a user's
perspective) notification: Error, you do not have WIKI_VIEW
permission or something similar.

The best way to change this, IMHO, is for Trac to handle permission
errors differently.

I propose:
When Trac throws a permission error it first checks to see if the
current user (defaults to anonymous) has -any- permissions.
If the users doesn't have any permissions then it looks for a
NoPermissions.txt file (or something equivalent) and uses that to
generate the error page.  If that file doesn't exist it then defaults
to a  You don't have access to the system, contact the system admin
error.

If the user has any permissions, but a permissions error is still
thrown then Trac looks for a  NoPrivilege.txt file (or something
equivalent) and uses that to generate the error page.  If that file
doesn't exist then it defaults to the current format for errors.

Any Thoughts?

Respectfully,
Christopher Taylor


On 1/18/07, Matthew Gillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


David Abrahams wrote:

 Matthew Gillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 David Abrahams wrote:


 One of my users complained (bitterly) that when he arrives,
 unauthenticated, at his Trac, instead of being directed to a login
 screen he gets a cryptic message about not having the right privileges
 to view the page.  I know he should just get over it, but I have to
 admit he's right; it's a bad user interface.  That message only makes
 sense on Tracs that can be used without logging in.  Is there
 something I can do about this?

 Of course. Assuming you're using apache, change the Auth Required scope
 to include the root URL, instead of just the /login path.

 Ie change something that looks like this:
 LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/login
  AuthType Basic
  Require valid-user
 /LocationMatch

 to this:
 LocationMatch /tracsrv/test/
  AuthType Basic
  Require valid-user
 /LocationMatch


 I'm using the new AccountManager, one of whose benefits is that the
 login screen is a real HTML form.  IIUC, if I do what you're
 suggesting, I'll end up with an HTTP auth dialog box instead.

Yes, that's correct.  That's the extent of my apache-foo (or pitiful lack
thereof).  There very well might be a simple way to tell apache to use a
different mechanism besides AuthType Basic (ie to redirect to the
AccountManager URL), but I've never had occasion to find out.

Perhaps someone else has some better ideas.  I'd be curious to know if you
find a solution though..

Matt





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[Trac] A question on using GMail as an SMTP server for Trac

2007-01-18 Thread Christopher Taylor


Hello all,

This may be old news to some, but it's news to me.  Apparently you can
use a GMail account as your SMTP server for Trac:
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-66.php

Thought this might be useful to a lot of people around here.

Just one question: how can you get GMail to delete, or just not store
sent messages?

Respectfully,
Christopher Taylor

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[Trac] Re: A question on using GMail as an SMTP server for Trac

2007-01-18 Thread John Manoogian III (jm3)

On 1/18/07, Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just one question: how can you get GMail to delete, or just not store
sent messages?



you can set up filters in Gmail to act on messages based on Sender, Subject,
etc.

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[Trac] Re: A question on using GMail as an SMTP server for Trac

2007-01-18 Thread Christopher Taylor


yes, but that only applied to the -inbox- not the sent box, correct?

On 1/18/07, John Manoogian III (jm3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/18/07, Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just one question: how can you get GMail to delete, or just not store
 sent messages?

you can set up filters in Gmail to act on messages based on Sender, Subject,
etc.


 



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[Trac] Re: python 2.5 required for trac current svn ?

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Alexander Neundorf wrote:

Hi,

the trac wiki (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall )says:
if using mod_python and xml-related things (like 0.11, or xml-rpc plugin), use 
python-2.5 (expat is namespaced there and does not cause apache to crash any more)

So, I need python 2.5 if I want to use Trac from svn with mod_python, but 
python 2.3 is ok if I use Trac from svn with fastcgi ?
Do I understand this correctly ?


That document doesn't tell the full story and is a bit misleading. On
this specific issue, there should be no problem using an earlier
version of Python provided that the version of libexpat which is used
by Apache is compatible with the version of expat embedded into the
Python pyexpat module.

For information on determining if they are compatible or whether you
are going to have problems, see:


http://www.dscpl.com.au/wiki/ModPython/Articles/ExpatCausingApacheCrash

Graham


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[Trac] Re: A question on using GMail as an SMTP server for Trac

2007-01-18 Thread John Manoogian III (jm3)

well, i would try it out. it seems like behind the scenes with gmail, most
things are just done with tags (labels); the notion of separate boxes is
largely an illusion. e.g. when i pop my gmail on my phone, i see my own sent
messages come in as new message, i'm guessing because internally in gmail
they're just tagged with Sent or something similar.


On 1/18/07, Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



yes, but that only applied to the -inbox- not the sent box, correct?

On 1/18/07, John Manoogian III (jm3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/18/07, Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Just one question: how can you get GMail to delete, or just not store
  sent messages?

 you can set up filters in Gmail to act on messages based on Sender,
Subject,
 etc.


  






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[Trac] current svn stable enough for normal use ?

2007-01-18 Thread Alexander Neundorf


Hi,

I'm still running Trac 0.9.x but I'd like to have the WebAdmin interface.
So, either I'll install 0.10.3 and the external WebAdmin plugin, but actually 
I'd prefer to run Trac from svn.
Is it currently in a reasonable stable state or should I go with the released 
version ?
(it's not on a critical server, so minor hickups here and there might be 
acceptable).

Bye
Alex

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[Trac] Re: current svn stable enough for normal use ?

2007-01-18 Thread Emmanuel Blot



So, either I'll install 0.10.3 and the external WebAdmin plugin, but actually 
I'd prefer to run Trac from svn.


I assume you meant from the trunk when you wrote from svn.

Yes, the current trunk seems to be quite stable, although you need to
carefully check which macros and plugins you are using: many plugins
have not been ported to Trac 0.11dev - and won't work without minor
tweaks that are yet to be written, and most of the 'external' macros
(macros from TracHacks for example) won't work either, as the macro
'API' used in Trac up to 0.10 has been deprecated.

As a matter of fact, I've updated my servers to 0.11 this week. Maybe
the following may help:
* AddComment macro and Ref macro stopped work. I've ported the Ref
macro, not the AddComment macro. We used a couple of custom macros
that have been easily ported as well
* XmlRpcPlugin did not work straight, but I've provided a very simple
patch that makes it work on 0.11
* Syntax highlighting based on SilverCity failed. I've installed the
Pygments library and syntax highlighting is now even better
* Our custom commit hook scripts stopped working, because the date
format has changed. It took a couple of minutes to upgrade them with
the new datetime API.

Database format is identical for release 0.10.x and the current
0.11dev, so it's quite easy to revert back to a stable release if you
have any important issue with the trunk.

HTH,
Cheers,
Manu

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[Trac] Re: python 2.5 required for trac current svn ?

2007-01-18 Thread solo turn


On 1/18/07, Alexander Neundorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

the trac wiki (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall )says:
if using mod_python and xml-related things (like 0.11, or xml-rpc plugin), use 
python-2.5 (expat is namespaced there and does not cause apache to crash any more)

So, I need python 2.5 if I want to use Trac from svn with mod_python, but 
python 2.3 is ok if I use Trac from svn with fastcgi ?
Do I understand this correctly ?


yes for the fastcgi part.

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[Trac] Re: Welcome message for unauthenticated users on closed Tracs

2007-01-18 Thread John Hampton

David Abrahams wrote:

I'm using the new AccountManager, one of whose benefits is that the
login screen is a real HTML form.  IIUC, if I do what you're
suggesting, I'll end up with an HTTP auth dialog box instead.


You'll have to patch trac proper, but the attached patch will redirect 
an anonymous user to /login if they get a permission error


-John


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diff -urN trac-0.10.3/trac/web/main.py trac-0.10.3-loginredir/trac/web/main.py
--- trac-0.10.3/trac/web/main.py2006-12-12 18:44:08.0 +
+++ trac-0.10.3-loginredir/trac/web/main.py 2007-01-19 00:00:31.556000250 
+
@@ -402,6 +402,8 @@
'message': e.message
}
try:
+if (req.authname == 'anonymous') and (e.reason == 'Forbidden'):
+req.redirect(env.href('login', 
{'referer':req.href(req.path_info)}))
req.send_error(sys.exc_info(), status=e.code)
except RequestDone:
return []


[Trac] Re: python 2.5 required for trac current svn ?

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Alexander Neundorf wrote:

Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
  Hi,
 
  the trac wiki (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall )says:
  if using mod_python and xml-related things (like 0.11, or xml-rpc
 plugin), use python-2.5 (expat is namespaced there and does not cause apache 
to
 crash any more)
 
  So, I need python 2.5 if I want to use Trac from svn with mod_python,
 but python 2.3 is ok if I use Trac from svn with fastcgi ?
  Do I understand this correctly ?

 That document doesn't tell the full story and is a bit misleading. On
 this specific issue, there should be no problem using an earlier
 version of Python provided that the version of libexpat which is used
 by Apache is compatible with the version of expat embedded into the
 Python pyexpat module.

 For information on determining if they are compatible or whether you
 are going to have problems, see:


 http://www.dscpl.com.au/wiki/ModPython/Articles/ExpatCausingApacheCrash

Ok. So if I run Trac with FastCGI it should be ok since it doesn't matter
that much whether the expat linked to the python stuff is the same as the
one linked to apache, right ?


Correct.

I should point out though that the expat mismatch doesn't raise itself
as a problem as much as the comment in the wiki suggests it might. It
also isn't that hard to resolve. The big problem until that article
talking about it was written was identifying that that was actually the
cause in the first place.

Graham


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