Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.
Most people download and install Trisquel GNU/Linux on weekends. (Saturday, Sunday.) The very first web browser they will be using on a fresh install is most probably Abrowser. (I am not ignoring GNU IceCat; But most people will get it as a single click download option from Abrowser.) Thus it would be wise to schedule sensitive updates (Other than essential security updates.) away from weekends. Otherwise, new users will get turned off and may never come back due to the bitter experience they had, at first hand.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.
Thank you, Legimet. But wouldn’t it be nice if the developer(s) themselves release the fix as an official update? Its not that I don't trust you; But I am having practically no experience dealing with PPAs.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The FSF's statement on Windows 10
well said.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
Pointing out that "ethics" is a better reason for using free software then privacy and security, makes this statement hypocritical. I don't need proof that he uses debian because its more popular then trisquel, because he told me that himself. I think thats being a wuss indeed. As for him using prop drivers, elementary my dear watson... I don't believe you can ever be sincerely part of this community, if you don't even use trisquel yourself. I guess thats an inconceivable notion to someone like you. And, imo, thats the main reason the free software community in general is not respected or popular.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
You really need to take that bananna out of your mouth, I'm starting to feel sorry for you. The point is dhclient was vulnerable, and it was making peoples machines vulnerable at the same time, and there were year old bug reports on it getting ignored. Any vulnerability is an attack vector. You are arguing semantics again, the same as trying to say privacy and security is different then what makes proprietary software "unethical". Its not, they are the same thing. Stop arguing for the sake of argument. Your community is what looks foolish.
Re: [Trisquel-users] let's convert me
Kia ora SAM73, welcome to Trisquel! You are wise to seek help in these forums. I soldiered on alone for nearly two years before I started posting here, and I wish I'm come straight away. The Trisquel forums are well moderated, and full of friendly, helpful, and passionate software freedom warriors. I am also user Acer hardware. I have an Acer Aspire One "netbook" (small laptop). I realise our models are very different, and may contain very different hardware, but there may be certain things I can help with. I am happy to try. With any GNU/Linux problem, the first thing I always do is a web search. Commons problems will tend to have been reported on user forums, Stack Exchange etc, and potential solutions can be found there. If that doesn't work, I tend to search the problem in these forums. If I can't find anything, here, I start a new thread describing the problem in as much detail as I can, including my hardware, what version of Trisquel I'm running, and what version of any applications involved in the problem. Either the more experienced Trisquelers can give me advice on how to fix the problem, or if its a bug, the maintainers can work on a patch, or pass the bug report upstream to the maintainers of the specific software the bug is affecting. This is the power of free software. As a global community, we can achieve so much more than as isolated individuals or small groups.
[Trisquel-users] Re : I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Yes, 'dhclient' was a remote exploit vector. This is precisely what I wrote. Do you know the difference between "having a vulnerability" and "being an attack vector"? You obviously don't. Who is foolish? I guess the one who "was banned from like 8 freenode rooms for complaining about dhclient being vulnerable", i.e., you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Thats the thing, I don't consider it useless, people like Jxself and your community consider it useless and want it removed. Thats what started this whole debate. I was saying i was glad it was there so i could learn about it. Fedora was more of a pain in the ass to password grub. Sometimes all you will need to do is turn your back on your laptop for less then a minute, to give someone time to reboot it and change boot parameters to assist their exploitation of you. And chances are you won't suspect anything malicious went on. The bios password is not useless either. Now if someone steals your computer thats a whole nother story. And imo, full disk encryption would be better, but even that is not 100%. Nothing is 100% but that does not mean don't use any security at all...
[Trisquel-users] Re : I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Either you consider the GRUB password is useless (and https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Security says it is useless in almost all situations) and it makes no sense that you want /etc/grub.d/01_PASSWORD back or you consider that it brings some security and it makes no sense that you laugh at pizzaiolo because he does no want to tell his password. Either way, I actually think it does not make sense to laugh at pizzaiolo. If someone ignores something you know, you can teach him/her. It turns out you know close to nothing about security. So you had better learn than teach and you had better listen than keep on bragging about how expert you are. An expert that believes his system is repetitively compromised (how effective you are!), who cannot read code, who believes Shellshock is due to a vulnerability in 'dhclient', who thinks that backdoors in Windows are "overrated", etc. And, above all, someone who makes things up out of thin air and calling everyone a fraud: jxslef would distribute blobs in his kernel, quidam would not run Trisquel, etc. You are ridiculous.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
dhclient is THE MAIN attack vector for shellshock. Because its a service that is run the most, by almost all users, whether running a server or not. Did you even search online before posting? Wow you are an embarrassment, do you think people are not going to search online themselves, and realize how foolish you are? The other reason its a problem, it was opening up random ports besides 67/68 on alot of systems and redhat was ignoring that bugzilla report for over a year claiming they coudln't fix it. I mean every single link when i searched shellshock dhclient was related. Here are the first few. There wasn't a link that wasn't related. http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hack-like-pro-hack-shellshock-vulnerability-0157651/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8369443 https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/68156/is-connecting-to-an-open-wifi-router-with-dhcp-in-linux-susceptible-to-shellshoc (read the checkmarked reply here) http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/bash-bug-cve-2014-6271-critical-vulnerability-scaring-internet/ "In the KNOWN SHELLSHOCK VECTORS such as HTTP CGI, DHCLIENT, etc. the only requirement is that attacker-controlled data is copied from a protocol packet into the execution environment prior to executing bash through an API that would preserve the environment. http://www.rapid7.com/db/modules/auxiliary/server/dhclient_bash_env
Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.
I'm having the same issue with 39.03 on Trisquel 7. The last system update seemed to fix the random crashing problem, this one has broken it again :( Problems is ongoing on Trisquel 6. Using IceCat as my main browser now on both installs (with LibreJS turned off, except for testing sites before I contact them about freeing their scripts).
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Why do you keep replying to me? Do you not want me to leave. Not only does it say alot about why its insecure, its also why its not popular.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.
Can you try the packages from my PPA? https://launchpad.net/~legimet/+archive/ubuntu/abrowser-kde/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
How about Debian then? Their kernel is libre by default right?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
Yeah, its long overdue for a while now. I'm sure I am not the only one who may benefit from a newer kernel and xorg stack in a fresh install. I don't want to have to install Ubuntu 14.04.3 and then run the trusty purge script when I can ideally be up to date (minus the nonfree bits) deploying on a freshly formatted hard drive.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.
Now, Abrowser 39.0.3 on a 32-bit machine suffers the same issue. (At least for me.) Someone needs to test the latest Abrowser version(s) on different architectures before pushing them for the routine updates. Hope the issue get resolved the sooner possible.
[Trisquel-users] Re : I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
You proved us many times: you know nothing about security. You just write bullshit that is not supported by any fact. Here, again, you pretend that Shellshock is related to a vulnerability in 'dhclient'. It is plain wrong. The vulnerability was in Bash. 'dhclient' runs /bin/sh, which is *not* Bash on most systems, to configure the network interface. If /bin/sh was Bash then 'dhclient' was a vector to remotely exploit the security bug in Bash. But, again, there was no vulnerability in 'dhclient'. Since you are proud of pissing people off by writing bullshit, congratulations: you are the asshole you want to be.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Then why do you keep coming back to these forums? I think you made your point already.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
Who voted? I doubt they are security experts...
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
It says alot about this community, and why its software is so insecure.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
What an achievement!
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
Ok secret service, gestapo, stasi, doesn't take away from the point.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
did you not read the rest of my post? lol...wow, let me repaste it for you. "For example, The same way the stasi in nazi germany used seemingly innocent information to blackmail people into doing things that would hurt others in their communities. Because things we do in private should sometimes stay private because it could lead to endangering others physical well being or hurt them mentally, when it is unnecessary and taken out of context or misunderstood. Because I don't believe users should be treated as a product unknowingly for others gain, whether monetary or not, for all the above reasons. These things can stall our human evolution." replace stasi with gestapo, nazi germany with post wwII, so i can be historically correct in case my point is missed and flies over you head...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
And on a side note, as a humble Trisquel 6.01 user, I'm quite content...
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
Those are partly why gnulinux has been voted most vulnerable operating system since 2013. Regarding your windows comment, my windows hasn't been destroyed since windows xp. In my opinion, people who think the nsa is more likley to compromise their system then some malicous hacking kid, some criminal, or some private researcher are the ones who are naive. In my personal experience, Only my gnulinux systems get constantly raped. So take that how you want..
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
I feel sorry for you guys.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Makes sense, its just a shame people like that cannot stick to the troll hole.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
As mentioned elsewhere on this forum work on 7.0.1 is planned to start in the none too distant future.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
I am not aware of any plans to do that. I imagine that e.g. Ubuntu and such are quite happy with the proprietary firmware. Even though it works it's more of a hack anyway than a proper fix so I doubt it'd be accepted anyway.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Then he wonders why he's banned from every community he tries to join...
Re: [Trisquel-users] The FSF's statement on Windows 10
Windows=BSoD Windows=spyware Windows=shit
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
Of course :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
For once, that's a good point. Guys, don't feed it ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] The FSF's statement on Windows 10
It's not that GNU/Linux isn't rock solid, it's that it's less automated, less dumbed down, more in the way between the user and the work. Flexibility is a double-edged sword. The multiplicity of hardware support (sometimes without free drivers) is not a problem that proprietary OSs have to deal with. Also, I'm being a bit unfair since I don't know the ratio of minor issues vs the user base of each kind of OS. But I'll state it once again without ambiguity: While I think exceptional useability/convenience will help a wider adoption, I will keep on giving up a few convenience-related features for software that respects the user (i.e. free software).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
Hey Jason, Do you know if this is being published upstream to the main Linux kernel or at least to the Ubuntu ones? That way it makes its way down and not just for Linux Libre. :-)
[Trisquel-users] Re : I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
I believe he uses debian. So, one more time, you don't know. You just assume that people are "frauds" and shout it on the forum and the IRC. Like you wrote: you just "piss off" people on the Internet.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
Users deserve privacy, because if not things they do on their computer can be used against them. Then, why shouldn't computer usages be used against people? At some point, you will have to end up with "because it is right" or "because it is wrong", i.e., a principle.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
I believe he uses debian. I might as well install debian too I guess...
[Trisquel-users] Re : I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
When I asked him if thats because he doesn't even use trisquel and prefers debian, he got offended and said he was done talking to me. Quidam is Trisquel's leader. Of course, he uses Trisquel. Stop trolling around.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
"For example, The same way the stasi in nazi germany (...)" Major history-knowledge fail. just look up when the stasi was founded and when nazi germany ended
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
Shellshock and Heartbleed are your personal experience? Your computer has been attacked by people via these vulnerabilities? That must mean you run an OpenSSL server, though I can't imagine why you would do that, and that you're automatically executing commands in Bash based on information you get from the Internet, which again, I can't imagine a reason for a regular desktop user to do.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic, parabola gnu/linux-libre
Aaand just after I ask the repositories have successfully updated (except for libre for some reason - I'd guess that will be taken care of soon). A ton of updates coming through at once now. Thanks for the reply though.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic, parabola gnu/linux-libre
I had some issues this week with a couple of mirrors, but it seems that sorted itself out. I'm not sure what your problem is-- although there always is the possibility that your system *is* up-to-date, and that's why it isn't updating.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
I'm only telling you of my personal experience.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
So i guess you understand why security is important. Since you now ask about privacy let me try to explain. Users deserve privacy, because if not things they do on their computer can be used against them. | For example, The same way to stasi used seemingly innocent information to blackmail people into doing things that would hurt others in their communities. Because things we do in private should sometimes stay private because it could lead to endangering others physical well being or hurt them mentally, when it is unnecessary or taken out of context. Because I don't believe users should be treated as a product for others gain, whether monetary or not.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The FSF's statement on Windows 10
so then why do you prefer to use proprietary software? You are the one that makes these claims yourself in the irc channel. You sure are quite the character lol.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
wrong, that is what you do when you claim "ethics" is more important then privacy and security. I am trying to explain to you that they are one and the same. And anyones reasoning for using free software is no less important then another. By claiming otherwise, you drive people away.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Everything I say is true bud. I was just chatting with quidam on irc and he couldn't tell me if it runs by default. When I asked him if thats because he doesn't even use trisquel and prefers debian, he got really offended. Then when I told him if he doesn't even use trisquel why should anyone else. And he stopped responding. Do you think i'm making this up about deja-dup? This really happened man, and the timing of it is quite a coincidence...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic, parabola gnu/linux-libre
There's a tiny subreddit for it: https://www.reddit.com/r/parabola/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
Old, but not obsolete :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic, parabola gnu/linux-libre
I'm going to use this as an opportunity to ask: has anyone else had trouble with the Parabola repositories in the past couple days? It seems to have stopped updating for me. If I do sudo pacman -Syu it says everything is up-to-date and if I do sudo pacman -Syyu it successfully redownloads but tells me there are no updates.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Error 5004 when trying to access hard-wired NAS
Answering my own question. I changed the workgroup name while logged in as admin in MyBookWorld, and now Network access works fine from the desktop, but still there is no access using Terminal. Therefore, I'm not frozen out from the MyBookWorld NAS anymore, but Terminal remains a quandary.
[Trisquel-users] Re : I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
It is impressive how much bullshit you can pack up in a post! My favorite one is quidam not using Trisquel.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
But I would never make a self righteous comment that someone elses reasons for using free software are less important then mine to the movement. Nor would I spend time arguing why it shouldn't be someones main reasons for using it. That is precisely what you do.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
I gave you my reasons, privacy and security. I asked you to tell me why users deserve privacy. Your answer basically is "for privacy". You do not have any deeper explanation. It is a principle. And I hope you now realize that any argument boils down to principles. That you were wrong to mock ethics. You then list applications of the principles. We did the same to show you that the users controlling the software has real impacts. For instance that they can correct any bug or implement any missing feature. These are not principles, they are real tangible things society can understand. They are principles. Applications of principles are tangible. Free software principles really empower the users. In practice. And society can understand those principles.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic, parabola gnu/linux-libre
Hiya, fellow Parabola user. 'Tis a fantastic distribution. =w= And no, it doesn't. There's a wiki, if you're looking for documentation. There's the IRC channel, if you're looking for discussion. There's the Trisquel forums, if your looking for a community.
[Trisquel-users] Off-topic, parabola gnu/linux-libre
Does parabola have an official forum? I'm searching it :/
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
I never configured it nor did I ever use it. I'm just wondering if by default it runs once a month. Its the only thing I can think of, Otherwise I was most likely compromised. I can't find any cron scripts for it, but it might be because i already purged it from the system.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
I agree, trisquel7's software is too old
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
I gave you my reasons, privacy and security. Proprietary software is more likely to log keystrokes, spy on data, and those companies are more likely to sell information on you to data brokers, or ad companies. They are also more likely to install backdoors under pressure...etc.. These are not principles, they are real tangible things society can understand. When you say these things are not as important as "ethics", when in fact they would define ethics, you are come off as being under a false sense of importance and entitlement.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
Your last staement says it all, You don't care, and thats why society doesn't care about free software. I don't say they all boil down to privacy security, only thats what it boils down to for ME!modifying software to add features, is not important to me. But would never make a self righteous comment that its less important then my reasons.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
You have explained nothing, I'm the one that gave you examples, which you deem less important then "ethics" 2. you only claim they control its users. I gave you examples of how. You have none of your own. 3. when you explain nothing you stand for nothing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
I don't think its something I can test in a vm. I need a test machine.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Making the radeon kernel module work again
1. I explained and gave examples. 2. I never wrote that Microsoft has the copyright on every document created with MS Office. I explained how Microsoft controls copies of its software and, through them, its users. 3. For the nth times: principles need no explanation. By definition.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
How can anyone not want to use trisquel because it is not popular enough for them. There are advantages in belonging to a larger community. Better support for instance. But why do you even care about the validity of the reasons someone provides to justify her use of Debian or Trisquel? You are entitled find those reasons stupid. But it is no justification for acting like the Spanish inquisition, pointing out anyone that does not us free software for the same reasons you do and saying (s)he is a "wuss". The real reasons must be the same as every other free software advocate who uses debian over trisquel. For prop drivers. So, basically, you do not know but assumes that he is a liar. With no proof whatsoever. If anything, buying a dongle that Linux-libre runs suggests refusing proprietary drivers/firmware as much as possible. The fact he uses debian and not trisquel, makes him fake enough as it is, regardless if he uses prop drivers or not. Where did he lie about using Trisquel when he was actually using Debian? You are probably just making more things up...
Re: [Trisquel-users] The FSF's statement on Windows 10
If you are attempting to use software that will hand control over your computer to its developer then you have a bigger problem thereof than whether it “breaks”.
[Trisquel-users] Re : I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Does deja-dup-monitor run automatically by default once a month? I chose weekly backups. That can be configured of course.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
bTW, I Returned from trisquel6 to trisquel7 and not from bad distributions hh
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
1. How does she not have control over her own work? Explain? How are they controlling her through the server, any examples? Of course developing proprietary software is not right, because it can be used maliciously by the company. For example, logging keystrokes, spying on data, monitoring computer habits..etc But these things are not as important to you as "ethics" which you can't even explain. 2. MS'f office license does not license any work she creates with it. Thats a ridiculous statement. Regarding, her correcting bugs in the program she uses to create her work, again I say that can fall under "security" and is just as imporant as feature usability. 3. You have to define your principles otherwise they are just false self righteous bigoted arguments. To me the reaosns for wanting to be able to share software and have full control over software you own, is common sense. And any reasons for wanting that are not more important then another. But apparently you people claim otherwise, and by doing so hurt your own movement.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Making the radeon kernel module work again
He uses prop video drivers for no reason at all. He uses it so he can see higher fps numbers on the screen. Well, that is a reason. If that is true, I feel sad that he does no value his freedoms more than a higher frame rate. Yet, that does not make him a bad guy.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
I know for a fact he doesn't use trisquel, because he told me himself. And his reasons are that trisquel is less popular? Either he is more of a wuss then I give him credit for, or that is not the real reason. The real reasons must be the same as every other user who prefers debian. And i know its not because its nescessary for him to have prop wireless drivers, since he has stated he bought a dongle for free drivers. So what else could it be? The fact he uses debian and not trisquel, makes him fake enough as it is.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Making the radeon kernel module work again
1. Microsoft deserves the control of the development on MS Office, i.e., I hope (for Microsoft) that this development only happens with software that Microsoft controls. In the same way, the user of MS Office deserves the control of the work she achieves with Microsoft office. An editing work this time, not a development work. With MS Office, she does not have this control over her own work. Microsoft controls the software and, through the software, controls the user. That is not right. Developing proprietary software is not right. 2. On the contrary, a user of LibreOffice is in control of on her editing work. She can use the program as she wishes (is MS Office's license still prohibiting the use of the software to criticize Microsoft?), she can study the source code to verify that the program does what she wishes (no spyware for instance), she can modify the program so that it does what she wishes (correct a bug for instance) and she can redistribute exact or modified versions of the program to help her neighbor (MS Office's license attacks the social solidarity). 3. You can't gives reasons to principles. By definition. Yet principles are essential. They are the starting points of any argumentation.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
Using proprietary software when you don't have to is hypocritical. Removing free software in favor of proprietary software is hypocritical. Promoting proprietary software over free software is hypocritical.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Making the radeon kernel module work again
Developing proprietary software is denying the users freedoms they deserve. The developer is the bad guy. The user is the victim. A user may depend on proprietary software (I depend on a proprietary BIOS for instance), be aware that this software harms her and criticize its developers for that reason. That does not make her a hypocrite. She is a victim.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
And how can you know he doesn't use proprietary drivers, are you on his machine? Are you?
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
Ty for changing your posts. I have not. You are not better then me cause you are a developer/programmer and I'm not. I'm glad you finally realize that. I have never pretended otherwise. And if its no different then why argue with me on what reasons are more important to use free software? I do not care about your reasons to use free software. I believe nobody does. We only correct the false statements you write: writing that "reasons to use free software all boil down to privacy and security" is wrong; writing that "any bug can be a possible malicious exploit" is wrong; etc.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I wondered how does one set up duplicity/duply on trisquel?
Does deja-dup-monitor run automatically by default once a month? If not my computer was compromised, as usual when using linux. Sorry i had to post here, its too coincidental. A few days ago, it started running on boot, or when i opened up abrowser, and started to toally eat up all my cpu, and my swap, freezing the pc. I've never set up any backups and its never ran before.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
One should know how to define why something is ethical and why its not. No. Any reasoning is ultimately based on principles that are not explainable (in mathematics, they are called axioms; in ethics, they are principles). Just try to tell me why users deserve privacy and you will see that your ultimate explanation will be "because it is right".
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
oh now yo upped it from 5 to 7? lmao. I don't think you used it more then 2. Tell me you didn't say you prefer debian cause its more popular. W/e that means... That makes not only a fraud in my book, it makes you a wuss too.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
hahahahah oh man i'm so disappointed in you. I thought you were one of the good ones. He uses prop video drivers for no reason at all. He uses it so he can see higher fps numbers on the screen. But take it from a gamer who doesn't have nearly as good as a cpu as calinou. He doesn't need them. I run xonotic fine with nouveau and my crappy amd cpu. He is a fraud.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
Here we go again "control of her work" work= documents written in libre office.Do you read what you say? how did i misinterpret that? How would using MS word be any different for you? 1. the MS WOrd is MS's hard "work" 2. She would have no less control over "her work" when using word compared to libreoffice. 3. you can't even define what makes something "unethical" So I can't take you seriously. Its meaningless. Its a false argumet. To say privacy and security are not and important enough reason to use free software compared to "ethics" is not onlyl contradictory. Its self righteous and only for the sake of argument. And I can't believe how you don't see that keeps free software unpopular.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Making the radeon kernel module work again
wow thats really what you believe? lmao. Saying proprietary software is bad, but using it for your video games, when imo, its not needed, is not hypocritical? I don't know what to say to you, except that you people keep confirming to me why noone can take free software seriously. Using a harderive with proprietary firmware or a computer with a non free bios is hardly the same thing. How can you use that as a defense for these frauds with a straight face. Their motives are to keep free software unpopular. And with people like you defending them, it will be easy.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
They are popular for firewalls because they requires much less maintenance then linux. Its more about a set it and forget it thing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
If I posted the chat logs you would probably lie to yourself anyways. Tell me if you want me to and I will. I get 3d acceleration fron nouveau. He doesn't need the prop drivers with his i7. And he harms the community when he promotes it in #trisquel. Thirdly, i'm a gamer, I live for fps games and i'm known in many communities. And i have no issues playing xonotic with my nouveau driver. Because what matters more is your cpu, and Calinou has an i7!! gimme a break. As far as francis, i found it sad that francis doesn't even stick up for himself, and says hes known basstard for a long time and likes him talking to him like that because it motivates him. I find it crazy that he says himself he is pessimistic about free firmware. I mean no wonder purism gets more sponsorships. That was the last straw for me man lol. I can't be around you nuts. No wonder Supertramp is embarrassed to say he uses trisquel.
[Trisquel-users] Re : The FSF's statement on Windows 10
All my attempts to use proprietary software so far resulted in issues, unlike free/libre software. People claim all the time proprietary software is more convenient, but I highly doubt it from a reliability point of view. In my experience, it breaks more often than free/libre software.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
the linux libre kernel 4.1.4 withe the radeon patch works flawlessly.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
5 months? thats all you lasted? And you indeed told me you don't use trisquel cause its not popular enough. SHame on you for being such a wussy. Be a fkn man. I heard the same thing from Calinou. You think debian is better cause its more "popular" lol gimme a break.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
One should know how to define why something is ethical and why its not. Thats the reasons for using free software. And my point is, to say to someon their resons for using free software is not a good reason, and its more about the ethics. Explains nothing but self righteousness.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
I thought you were leaving this forum. Why are you still here?
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
now you are, its about fkn time. Ty for changing your posts. You are not better then me cause you are a developer/programmer and I'm not. I'm glad you finally realize that. And if its no different then why argue with me on what reasons are more important to use free software? Would you rather free software stay unpopular so you can feel more special for using it yourself?
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
He has never used trisquel for more then a couple months. And how can you know he doesn't use proprietary drivers, are you on his machine? I use fedora in a laptop for my family because they need a proprietary wireless driver don't want to buy another card. But at least I'll admit it and not lie to myself and others. Trisquel is my main o/s there is no reason for me to use anything else.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
Why do you keep replying?
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
nopeits just how easy it is.
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
I don't believe you! lol. Do you admit you use debian, and didn't use trisquel for more then a couple months? Why are you even here if you don't use trisquel!?!? What is your reason for preferring debian? You told me yourself you don't use trisquel because its not popular enough. I mean wowwhat a sorry excuse.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
Also, send it upstream. :) That way any deblobbed Linux will get the fix, rather than just the ones done by someone aware of the patch.
[Trisquel-users] Re : returned to trisquel7
You keep coming off as someone who thinks people who program the software are more entitled to have control over it, then those that don't. I actually keep on writing the exact opposite: that the users (not the developers) of a computer program are entitled to have control over it because it is their work (not the developers') that is achieved through the use of the program. You are the ones focusing on specific features, when you seperate "ethics' from privacy and security. Ethics is not a feature. Developing an ethical software (i.e., a free software) rather than an unethical one (i.e., a proprietary software) is no different from a technical point of view.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Making the radeon kernel module work again
1. I am not talking about the licensing of the document. I do not know if you are trolling or sincerely do not understand. Again: someone who does her work (e.g., write documents) through a computer program (e.g., LibreOffice) deserves the control of her work, hence on the computer program she uses. She is in control if and only if the program is free software. 2. And "I don't how many times I have to say it" but that is not true. I am a developer, whereas you wrote that you cannot read source code. Yesterday, for instance, I corrected a benign bug that made a warning be printed on the error output in incorrect situations. And the program is not even using the network in any way. You cannot exploit such a bug. If you have not learned, then you should acknowledge your ignorance. If you want to learn about security bugs, you can start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_bug#Taxonomy : "Security bugs generally fall into a fairly *small* number of broad categories ...". 3. It is ethics that started the whole movement and make it popular. I see no reason for users being put off by a speech that focuses on empowering them in their computing lives. Only a small number of cynical people like you think that having an ethics is ridiculous.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 14.04.3 is out. Let's consider an upgraded Trisquel 7 ISO now.
Sounds good, but I think it should wait until the radeon patch is finalized.
[Trisquel-users] Error 5004 when trying to access hard-wired NAS
It's been quite a while since I tried to access my second NAS, called MyBookWorld. I could not even ping it successfully until I rebooted it by unplugging its power cord, waiting 30 seconds, and plugging in again. After a few minutes I was able to access it from Abrowser, but only as admin. I even refreshed my username/password. I'm running Trisquel 7 on a Lenovo T420 with 4GB of RAM and a ThinkPenguin WiFi dongle. When I try to access MyBookWorld (the NAS) using Places...Network, I can see that MyBookWorld is part of my network, and I can now ping it successfully, but a 5004 error is returned when I try to access it either as admin or as username. If I enter the incorrect password, I'm kicked out without any error message. In the LinuxMint forum, I found this syntax: > sudo mount -t cifs -o username=user,password=urPassword,uid=1000,nounix //wdbookip/sharename /media/mywdbook Which I've attempted to translate to my local setup: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=amenex,password=fictitious,uid=1000,nounix 192.168.1.7 /media/mybookworld But the system doesn't like the URL for MyBookWorld (192.168.1.7); I've tried http://192.168.1.7/, ftp://192.168.1.7.local and other permutations. I do have /media/mybookworld in place OK, though. Of course, my password isn't really "fictitious." I went on to try this: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=amenex,password=fictitious,uid=1000,nounix //192.168.1.7/MyBookWorld/ /media/mybookworld The reply was: > Retrying with upper case share name > mount error(6): No such device or address From admin access to MyBookWorld, the root folder seems to be DataVolume: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=amenex,password=fictitious,uid=1000,nounix //192.168.1.7/DataVolume/ /media/mybookworld But the reply still was: Retrying with upper case share name mount error(6): No such device or address Reading the cifs man page ... too much information. As a reality check, I accessed my other NAS thusly: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=george,password=souititcif,uid=1000,nounix //192.168.1.8/Share/ /media/buffalolinkstation And that syntax works fine; I can see all the contents of the Buffalo NAS's Share folder OK. What's amiss with the MyBookWorld network access ?
Re: [Trisquel-users] returned to trisquel7
I could vouch for super tramp that he does not use any proprietary drivers. I would like someone to feed me this guy to me, I got my Southern deep fry pan ready to pinch his soft-side of a troll coming from my repertoire of a nasty troller.
