Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
More spells. Per-team start spells. Bots know how to use spells. Menu  
options. Better model for knight. Weapon replace with scrolls and medeval  
weapons mutator. Monster fixes.


The better spell support is a significant addition.
You really can scourge dungeons now if you wish.

ISO Download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesqueanthology/files/latest/download

Direct V63 no javascript ISO download:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/chaosesqueanthology/Rel_63/XonoticChaosEsqueAnthologyREL63.iso?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fchaosesqueanthology%2F&ts=1440495865&use_mirror=netcologne

If you wish to just update your copy, if it's not too old, you can put these  
files in /data/ :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmodchaosesque/?source=directory

enjoy and give feedback!



Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread jabjabs
This goes for pretty much everyone in most fields. It is wise to never put  
anyone on a pedestal but merely look for inspiration from the good things  
they do.


It is somewhat like the advice that one should never meet their idols as will  
lead to disappointment when the flaws are presented. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Software Updater proceeds without authentication

2015-08-25 Thread amenex
Software Updater installed updates for Icecat and an english-language pack  
this morning without asking for authentication. No mention of security ...


Should I care ? Does anyone care ? 


[Trisquel-users] Re : Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
But magic banana says for a libre-game we have to non-commercialy  
redistribute doom/doom II to our neighbour/friend?


You do not have to. But you must me free to do so.

Isn't that Unauthorised copying?

An ethical license would authorize it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread shiretoko
I read the description and it definitly says that it will send SMS messages -  
no internet connection requiered.

So no, it's not textsecure.
I also wonder why textsecure doesn't show up in fdroid.
Does anyone have a solution?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread shiretoko
ok i think the fsfe says that textsecure is still flawed because it needs  
some proprietary google lib, but they work towards solving this problem, and  
THEN textsecure will be a great whatsapp alternative.

So it's not there yet i guess...
Until then i will stick with telegram i guess, but i'm looking forward to  
making the switch.


[Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Xonotic is about to commit a disgusting treason.

This was recorded in trepidation of their disloyalty

http://youtu.be/4KbTBLRDJ9s
http://opengameart.org/content/the-disgorgement-of-darkplaces

ChaosEsque, ofcourse, will remain true.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Xonotic is ditching DarkPlaces, kicking LordHavoc to the curb and saying "fk  
you" for all his help. (source, Mario informing of this.   
http://opengameart.org/forumtopic/chaosesque-anthology-opensourcefree-fps-standalone-mod-of-xonotic-released?page=3



[IMG]http://xonotic.org/static/img/carousel_weapons.jpg[/IMG]

ChaosEsque will be staying with Darkplaces.

This is my thoughts on all this:

I suspect Xonotic will lose features rather than gain them in this move.

Does this new engine support AES crypto or will that be declared an  
"unnecessary feature so ofcourse we're doing away with it" (ofcourse!)


ChaosEsque uses such features as regular parts of the code (for  
petrification, perm blindness

you can't get out of it by reconnecting).

ChaosEsque will stay true to DarkPlaces. Infact a version that works well  
with
older Intel GPUs has been standardized on for CE (some patches are brought  
backported from time to time)


This concerns me. I've seen the xonotic-wiki "moved" (can't find the info I  
used to
find easily), pages deleted (and no this is not "fine", no matter what  
marketspeak the new guys use.


I bet the people desiring a move of engines are also comfortable with Systemd  
being forced into all the linux distros, and
also with a removal of crypto because "who cares" "just a game" "fsck  
privacy"


Hats will be tipped to the side: these new guys know what they're doing.

I bet the Xonotic key gen server will be removed. Which is a blow to privacy  
as

all keys will then be only self signed, which can be MitMd sometimes possibly
(or atleast DoSd, think SSHv2, you can atleast DoS those, prevent  
connections).


"Unnecessary, crypto bad, systemd and needless change good"

I saw where things were headed when Xon let samual have free reign. I got off
that boat and jumped in the water. It's fine.

ChaosEsque will remain true to DP. There is also a maintained branch of the  
code

which has Divverent's bendy player models. Gets updated along side -concrete.

Honestly, if I were Lord Havoc I would be extremely angry and if I were him I  
would seek

to find those responsible. My thought process would be:
1) First they destroyed Nexuiz
2) And took it somewhat away from me in Xonotic.
3) Now they are dumping my code completely after I helped them in all things.

If I were him I would not let this go unanswered.
I don't know how he keeps his cool or why.

DP is a fine engine and I myself have not much come to it's limits yet.
I doubt regular Xonotic has either, as it seems not too much goes on there  
these days.


ChaosEsque will remain true though, and will be there when others wish to get  
off this cruise.


I really think it's disrespectful and it's as if Lord Havoc has been used and  
is now
being discarded. It's disgusting to me really. Someone does all that work for  
you and now
"Fuck em, he isn't being our slave anymore"... when you could just code the  
features

your damned self into his engine (the way opensource is supposed to work).

And what is wrong with Quake One support?
Like that's a bad thing "it's old"(similar argument from systemd supporters:
you know, people who're on the side of mass survellance and feminism, and  
opposed
to security and anything males might like... "good right thinking progressive  
individuals")

I'm glad DP support Q1 well. I put in some code recently to make my mod
of xonotic more compatable with Q1 maps (so they load).

It's fun.

This really is treason. First taking LH's project, now throwing him into the  
trash.
Ofcourse trashing the wiki while your at in (git hub is unsearchable without  
google), deleting everything for

zero reason (oh, progress, like SystemD).

The whole way of thinking disgusts me completely. It is wrong.
You shouldn't Use and THEN discard people and their products.
If you're going to Use people and what they make, stay true to them.
Don't be a lying scheming POS... you know? A snake in the grass kind of  
person.

"Oh LH isn't being USSSEEDDD enough by us right now, KICK EM TO THE CURB"

This is how Russia feels America did it btw.

Well those are my thoughts on that.
I'd like to know how Lord Havoc really feels about this.
If I were him I'd be pissed and I would not let it go, nor let it stand:
it would come to blows. Can't just use and then throw away people like that.
It is wrong, and the people doing it need to learn that or someone needs to  
learn them it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

What are your thoughts on systemd?

Are you the librem guy or the not-lying-about-things lin laptop seller?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this Librem13 fully free this time?

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Do you think the Russians will backdoor it like Intel has backdoored our  
CPUs?


Why is it that there is no revenge for this, what Intel has done?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this Librem13 fully free this time?

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Looks like I got chris mixed up with the librem guy.

Anyway the above is perhaps what the librem crew discussed.
Not thinkpenguin.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Is this OK? To use and then ditch someone who helped you, and dump their  
engine (it is fully free software, ofcourse, not like they're moving from  
non-free to free)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread franparpe

Thank you very much, now I have to make a difficult decision:

I've been trying conversations with a Jappix xmpp account and I've loved it  
but Kontalk seems very easy to setup specially for my non-tech friends...


Mmmm


[Trisquel-users] Re : Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
Of course it is OK. Any development team is free to make whatever technical  
choice looks better. And you are free to fork (and see whether other  
developers join you, which I doubt).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
This is one of the main problems with FLOSS in general. There are a lot of  
egos in a meritocracy and no one really wants to work together. This results  
in forking the software and now there are multiple versions of pretty much  
the same thing with smaller dev teams.


I've noticed that unless there is a corporation or established organization  
backing a free/open source project, it fades away or is Terri le as it is  
usually a one man team where that person is a student and is doing it for  
ideology instead of getting the necessary resources to make something that  
people need on a broader scale.


I've been a part of this forum for 4+ years now and have learned that the  
majority of die hard free software advocates would rather spend their efforts  
pointing fingers at you and tell you that you are wrong and unethical and  
their way is better. Meanwhile, nothing of substance really happens and while  
you are all pointing fingers, the world moves on.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
I have no problem with systemd and I have problem with Intel AMT and vPro.  
And I will down-vote any of your subsequent posts on that topic which has  
nothing to do with the thread (besides the fact that you have already shown  
us multiple times that you do not understand nor want to understand the  
problems that systemd solves).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread mcz

I see, thanks quantumgravity.
Telegram is fine, though I'd love a setting that uses the encrypted  
communication by default.

I mean if we can encrypt, why use the unencrypted version?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

>I have no problem with systemd and I have problem with Intel AMT and vPro.
"Intentional Hardware backdoor bad" "New windows-like hypervisor forced on  
all linux (l)users with complexity to all-but-ensure "accidental"  
backdoors"... "fine"


Same government is paying for both.

>And I will down-vote any of your subsequent posts on...
This strongly suggests you have javascript enabled.

People who prefer freedom and security get to see all posts regardless of you  
furiously pressing the downvote button.

You reveal yourself through this error

>that topic which has nothing to do with the thread (besides the fact that  
you have already shown us multiple times that you do not understand nor want  
to understand the problems that systemd solves).

Javascript is great too, right?



Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Hey look at this guy! Telling ChaosEsque Anthology to Fork form Xonotic!  
AHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAH


LIKE ITS A THREAT AHHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!


>And you are free to fork (and see whether other developers join you, which I  
doubt).



AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread franparpe

GLOOM is awesome, at least I can play those zdoom wads that I love so much!!!

Thank you a lot for letting us know that this engine exists :)

(I tried gzdoom mods but no zdoom at the moment)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
>Of course it is OK. Any development team is free to make whatever technical  
choice looks better. And you are free to fork (and see whether other  
developers join you, which I doubt).


HAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Oh look "If you don't like it FORK"

You think that's an insult, a diss, a "oh you can't do that though, lolz"

Forked 2 years ago. Wasn't looking for extra developers then, I am not  
looking for more developers now.


Look up ChaosEsqueAnthology.

Man you are a FUCKING douchebag.

"FREESOFTWARE IS ALL ABOUT GETTING MORE DEVELOPERS"

Let me tell you this, you pissant fk: I have added more features, ALONE, to  
ChaosEsque FORK OF XONOTIC in the last 2 years than they have added with  
their TEAM!

(Not to mention maps, media, models etc)

YOU GOT THAT YOU FKING PIECE OF SHT?
DO YOU GOT THAT?

Some who does nothing except try to force men to obey your social norms would  
take "go fork" to be a impossible threat.


I've done it with multiple projects throughout the years, because I actually  
code. Unlike you apparently.





[Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Magic Banana said:
>Of course it is OK. Any development team is free to make whatever technical  
choice looks better. And you are free to fork (and see whether other  
developers join you, which I doubt).


Get this. Magic Banana is telling ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic. Now. Here. In  
2015 August.

"If you don't like it, go fork"
"Bet you won't get any developers"

Guess what. I am the developer. I don't NEEED developers and don't WANT  
DEVELOPERS!
You wouldn't understand. You are a user. You love systemd. You hate anyone  
not in keeping with your (feminist type) beliefs.
Free/Libre/Opensource is just another "liberal social experiment" to you and  
just being "part" of the "group" is being an "opensource contributor" to you.  
People like me, who actually contribute, since we are against values such as  
feminism "aren't part of the libre software community"


Nope. I do. You do not. If we ever meet, it will come to blows I'm sure.  
You're so smug in your fgt beliefs.



http://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology

Enjoy, screwbag, and downvote all you want. I'm sure the javascript users  
will just see a red bar.







Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Ofcourse a snake in the grass would think stabbing someone in the back is  
fine. You make all your money by manipulating the financial system too,  
right?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

I work every day on my little corner:

http://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology
(Named by the (then, 2 yrs ago) main dev of Xonotic when I consulted with him  
what I should call it)


I'm told I'm a piece of shit because I'm against feminism and pro  
marry-girl-children (allowed in Deuteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew (and all other  
old religions, pre-1850, aswell)), by "free/libre" software "contributors"  
(who often don't contribute anything other than packaging other people's  
works)


The free software "ideology" doesn't matter to the free sofware ideologues,  
only progressive idealology: pro women's rights, anti-male-power,  
pro-male-peonage, anti-girl-peonage, etc.


What you make doesn't matter at all. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread mcz
I once turned down an offer to write a book on Python programming because of  
this principle and the publisher's unwillingness to make the book available  
under a libre culture license.

The funny thing is that these proprietary books end up on the web anyway.
A semi-libre option might have been a solution (see my post above).
Personally, I fail to see how preventing commercial redistribution could be  
unethical.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Here's something completely free:
http://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology

It has both medeval and tech maps. (Q3 map format)
There are over 100 maps.
I made 1/2 of them.

Enjoy.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesqueanthology/

You can use mutators to add monsters (create>mutators in the menus)

If you DL the GPL Quake Retexturing Project and put in in your data dir, you  
can play Q1 maps too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I bet, according to you, chaosesque is not libre software because the contrib  
(oh wait, in your world chaosesque never forked from Xontoic and has no  
developers (and you doubt there ever will be any) is against feminism etc.


You, on the other hand, are a real free software contributor (along with  
debian-women, etc), nothing to show for it tho, but you have the correct  
beliefs in your mind. You pride yourself on that and hold yourself out as  
superior to scum like myself (who, thusly, is not a libre software dev,  
though all my code, media, music, models, maps, etc are ALL licensed gpl,  
cc-by-sa, bsd, etc)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
According to some people's feelings this isn't really a free software project  
because the contributor hates feminism, hates feminist women, and is in favor  
of men marrying young girls, and likes the old religions (such as the book of  
Deuteronomy) where such was par for the course.


If you don't have the right beliefs, all your code, media, etc is "shit" and  
"doesn't exist" and "needs to be deleted" (and sometimes is:  
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1310  )


That is the "free software community" today. A woman's only space (men  
grugingly allowed, but only if they have the correct beliefs).


Magic Banana supports this. That is the kind of person that Magic Banana is.  
A feminist.


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

NO RESPONSE?

SURELY YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CHIME IN WITH


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread nicolasmaia

Please don't create two threads about the same thing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

NO RESPONSE MAGIC BANANA?
Nothing to say?

Going to tell me to go "fork off if you don't like it"?

Are you?


Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
The move away from X and the integration of sending search terms over the  
internet to Amazon was the end of Ubuntu.


Just as SystemD forced march is the end of linux.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Often trying to keep everyone on the same tree, insynch, is more trouble than  
it's worth.


For one it creates a situation where everyone is waiting for the other people  
to implement feature X, and then feature X never gets done.


For seconds it creates _enormous_ tension around the question of weather  
feature X should be coded at all, massive arguments, etc.


Nothing gets done.

And then after that... automatic merging of patches. Breaks things in subtle  
ways, you never get a stable piece of software, etc.


No one know the whole volume of the work either in their head, as everything  
is changing codewise, yet nothing is getting done (just churn, because to add  
a NEW feature, requires consensus, so just old features are recoded and  
recoded and recoded and recoded and recoded and recoded).


That's why ChaosEsque forked off Xonotic 2 years or so ago.
Working alone is the way software can get done.
Git makes this easy: fork and don't look back!

Design by committie takes the only currency OSS has away: the fun of it.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Mozilla is not a friend anymore. Nor is "Linux" post-systemd.
Mozilla is about two things today: advertisement and "progressive"  
(feminist/lgbt) politics. Not classical free software. This explains their  
actions.


Just like systemd/linux, mozilla needs to be forked (and it has been:  
palemoon VS mozilla, devuan as gnu/linux VS systemd/linux)


The forks just need to stop looking at their parent project and forge their  
own path.





[Trisquel-users] Re : Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf

This strongly suggests you have javascript enabled.

I do. The JavaScript on the Trisquel website is free software.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf

"FREESOFTWARE IS ALL ABOUT GETTING MORE DEVELOPERS"

Free software is about users controlling the software. If most users want the  
program to evolve in a way, then it will. That is a democratic development.  
You can disagree with what the majority wants. You can try to convince the  
developers that they go the wrong way (hint: calling them "FUCKING douchebag"  
or "FKING PIECE OF SHT" will not work). If that does not work, you can try to  
find other developers who share your opinions and fork. You can even fork the  
software alone. That is what free software development is "all about".


I've done it with multiple projects throughout the years, because I actually  
code. Unlike you apparently.


http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf/en/prototypes.html (although nobody needs to be a  
developer to actually want software to develop like the majority wants).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

I don't really understand why the Tor Browser uses firefox.
How can something that churns so often be secure?



Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

See. You do not care about security.

Javascript runs on your computer. Not the server.
It uses your CPU, and it could be anything from one day to another. Just  
because the it's coming from trisquel.info does not mean that it's from the  
trisquel.info admins.


It can do anything (sandboxes can't shield you from intel's "cpu bugs", and  
javascript can and does exploit them).


It's no surprise you accept the forced march to systemd and champion such  
things. Aslong as it has the right license you do not care.




Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread blade . vp2020
"The move away from X... its the end of Ubuntu"  
!

hay x  must dai
It is much like Malformation in The face of  Princess



[Trisquel-users] Re : MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
I was talking about Darkplaces. Anyway, I have better things to do that  
answer insults. And I invite anyone to downvote your insults so that our  
forum looks welcoming to newcomers.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Fuck You.

I FORKED XONOTIC TWO YEARS AGO YOU FUCK.

I am NOT beholden to the will of your CUNT masses you fucking PIECE OF SHIT.

I DO NOT HAVE TO CONVINCE ANYONE AS I FUCKING CODE THE SHIT DO YOU UNDERSTAND  
THIS YOU FUCK.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
For the same reason as for software. Text books and manuals aim to achieve a  
work. They enter the same category as software. You can watch rms' conference  
"Copyright vs. community" for the whole argument: http://audio-video.gnu.org


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
You do not have better things to do. What do you produce other than logs and  
yellow?


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
>If that does not work, you can try to find other developers who share your  
opinions and fork.


Hi, yellow log. You are smugly speaking as if this is in the future, and "you  
won't find any developers, hahahhaha, you're powerless"


That FUTURE you are suggesting will never happen, did happen. Two years ago.

 No you do not have to find one other person in the world. You are NOT  
beholden to others in OpenSource. That is the WHOLE point. As a user you can  
become a developer. I forked Xonotic into ChaosEsque, there is no other  
steady developer. Sure, with git we all share code at will, the way it was  
ment to be ( You HAND PATCH between branches, so you know exactly what the  
software does)


Secondly the Users in OpenSource/FreeSoftware manifestos mentioned are 1970s  
type users: people who compile, modify, write, their own software. NOT  
windows95+ users who don't do anything but use.


We are not slaves to your masses.

Also I pray your French state is overthrown. It was a communist pro-feminist  
piece of shit from the revolution. They killed anyone no in line with their  
thinking. It needs to go.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf

Just like systemd/linux, mozilla needs to be forked

You are ridiculously funny. You create multiple posts to insult me because  
you believe I did not understand that your game is a fork of Xonotic (I was  
actually suggesting you to go on with the development of Darkplaces) and you  
do not see that the Tor browser is forked from Firefox.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
>If that does not work, you can try to find other developers who share your  
opinions and fork.


Hi, yellow log. You are smugly speaking as if this is in the future, and "you  
won't find any developers, hahahhaha, you're powerless"


That FUTURE you are suggesting will never happen, did happen. Two years ago.

 No you do not have to find one other person in the world. You are NOT  
beholden to others in OpenSource. That is the WHOLE point. As a user you can  
become a developer. I forked Xonotic into ChaosEsque, there is no other  
steady developer. Sure, with git we all share code at will, the way it was  
ment to be ( You HAND PATCH between branches, so you know exactly what the  
software does)


Secondly the Users in OpenSource/FreeSoftware manifestos mentioned are 1970s  
type users: people who compile, modify, write, their own software. NOT  
windows95+ users who don't do anything but use.


We are not slaves to your masses.

Also I pray your French state is overthrown. It was a communist pro-feminist  
piece of shit from the revolution. They killed anyone no in line with their  
thinking. It needs to go.


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
You assume I will never find out who you are and take revenge for you trying  
to hide my words.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Hope you get one in the back of the head, data-mining piece of shit.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf

One "fuck" per line. Tourette syndrome?


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

It is XONOTIC that is ditching Darkplaces you IDIOT.

What good would forking Darkplaces do?
(And yes, ChaosEsque does maintain a small fork of Darkplaces which retains  
compatability with old intel gfx gear, so lol anyway).




Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
>I am French but live in Belo Horizonte (Brazil), where I am a university  
professor. My research deals with data-mining. I mainly study the extraction  
of closed patterns in n-dimensional data. Check out my website:  
http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf
Yay datamining: aka spying. Hmm the other pro-feminist professor that was  
against me was also a dataminer:

http://www.vitavonni.de/erich/

BTW: I have degree in other fields to match you PHD level.

Not that it matters. I just code videogames in freedom.

>... and, of course, I love Free software!
Oh all is forgiven, aslong as we are being screwed by freedom


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam



Going to tell us to fork anything else?
Because so far you are zero for 2.

YEP We forked Xonotic (Bigtime).
YEP We forked Darkplaces (just alittle, but we like to keep compat with old  
intel hardware and dabble in adding small features once in a blue moon, and  
ofcourse adding patches that are good/needed)




Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
I have tried Nexuiz/Xonotic in the past, but I was honestly not that  
impressed. Maybe its because I played the original Quake 3 back in 1999 or so  
and moved on. Nowadays, I would rather play something like CS: Global  
Offensive or Team Fortress 2. Yeah, I know they are non-free games, but the  
state of free games is on life support right now. It sucks, but its just the  
way it is until there is someone or an organization to put forth the money  
and effort to create an ecosystem where free engines can be used and the  
authors can make money.


I also don't see what the big fuss is about since you are basically taking an  
ancient game engine where the majority of work was done by ID Software 15+  
years ago and aren't creating the engine from scratch. If you did all this  
yourself and are releasing it under a free license, then that is pretty  
awesome. You are basically piggy-backing on someone else's code and due to  
the license, are making changes where you see fit.


What you need to do is re-evaluate what is important to you. If you want to  
work with others, then do it and work as a team. If you want to throw a hissy  
fit and fork it, then good luck to you. It gets tougher from here. If you  
want to be original and create something that is beneficial, then do it. No  
one is stopping you.  
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/cc18WsYnlfc?rel=0&html5=1




Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam

Going to tell us to fork anything else?
Because so far you are zero for 2.

YEP We forked Xonotic (Bigtime).
YEP We forked Darkplaces (just alittle, but we like to keep compat with old  
intel hardware and dabble in adding small features once in a blue moon, and  
ofcourse adding patches that are good/needed)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam



Going to tell us to fork anything else?
Because so far you are zero for 2.

YEP We forked Xonotic (Bigtime).
YEP We forked Darkplaces (just alittle, but we like to keep compat with old  
intel hardware and dabble in adding small features once in a blue moon, and  
ofcourse adding patches that are good/needed)


Datamining POS.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
ChaosEsque has forked Darkplaces aswell: we stay on a branch that works  
equally well with old intel gfx because we don't want to throw people under  
the bus, something swine like you don't understand.


We patch it from time to time, and sometimes add small features of our own,  
but mainly focus on the game code.


There is no need to talk about forking Darkplaces, however, and you know it.  
You are just backtracking to make it seem like you are not a complete idiot,  
aswell as a scumbag that's fine with how Xonotic has used and is now Dropping  
the dev Lord Havoc of Darkplaces.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
Data mining can be used for for spying. It can also be used for other  
purposes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining#Notable_uses.


Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam



ChaosEsque has forked Darkplaces aswell: we stay on a branch that works  
equally well with old intel gfx because we don't want to throw people under  
the bus, something swine like you don't understand.


We patch it from time to time, and sometimes add small features of our own,  
but mainly focus on the game code.


There is no need to talk about forking Darkplaces, however, and you know it.  
You are just backtracking to make it seem like you are not a complete idiot,  
aswell as a scumbag that's fine with how Xonotic has used and is now Dropping  
the dev Lord Havoc of Darkplaces.




Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker

Can someone move this to Troll Hole please?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker

I know what data mining is.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining#Notable_uses


Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
I rarely stick up for Magic, but how is he a "data-mining piece of shit" from  
his history on here? He is actually one of the more vocal free software, free  
culture, and privacy-focused people on here.


Your rants actually make me want to play Xonotic less. I only tried it a few  
times in the past, but I thought it was pretty amateur and now that I know  
the people behind it are clueless and a bunch of children, you are actually  
making me want to never touch it again. No loss.


Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
I think they want to move everything to Snappy with Click packages. These  
packages are all-in-one which will include the dependencies along with the  
software in one package.


http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
"At the age of 22 Shuttleworth founded Thawte, a digital certificate and  
internet security company which he sold to VeriSign for $575 million in 1999,  
when he was 26. He used a fraction of his wealth to start HBD Capital (now  
called Knife Capital), a Cape Town-based emerging markets investment fund.  
HBD has made a series of successful exits including Fundamo, a mobile  
financial services company which was acquired by Visa for $110 million in  
2011; and csense, which was acquired by GE Intelligent Platforms the same  
year."


Source:  
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/entrepreneurs/mark-shuttleworth-net-worth/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread mcz

The audio is very long, and goes through the history of copyright, DRM etc.
What's the argument that applies here, in a nutshell?
Software can be malware, but a book can't.
It's just not the same category to me.
(You seem to differentiate text books and manuals from say, a novel or a  
comic, but I'm not sure of that).


If it can't be distributed commercially,
It's still accessible, modifiable and can be distributed, just not for a fee.
It simply prevents people from abusing the author, without restraining the  
user's freedom.

Best of both worlds, it's fair to both parties.
How is that non-ethical?


Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread tomlukeywood

"Just as SystemD forced march is the end of linux."

apt-get install sysvinit systemd-

also:
http://devuan.org/


[Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread david
It would seem that the quality of this forum has been suffering from some way  
too personal agenda for some time, with some very evident examples in the  
last hours. While we decide what to do about it, I've taken some measures to  
clean things up a bit.


We will study the situation carefully and decide on the best way of  
protecting the freedom of the Trisquel community without letting things  
become too inappropriate.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread tomlukeywood

Suggestion:
this has been mentioned before on this forum
to stop the problem of inappropriate posts

what about having some users who have been on the fourm for a while that have  
the power to move inappropriate posts to the troll hole


if they ever abuse this power it should be taken off them immediately but  
eventually you would have a few trustworthy people that can make sure no ones  
posting inappropriate posts.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc

AKA moderators.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
The argument is that the user achieves a work with the manual or the text  
book (unlike with art) and must be allowed to do whatever she wishes with it.  
That includes commercial activities. That is why a license that prohibits  
commercial usage is non-free. More generally, any "do no evil" clause makes a  
license on functional works non-free. The author should not impose her views  
on what is evil and what is not.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
What temporary measures did you take? Did you only remove the posts or did  
you ban the offending user? In the latter case, prepare to receive death  
threats in your mailbox. Like I did...


That is the problem with moderation. The moderators suffer all the bad  
consequences. In particular, accusations of censorship (although it is not  
censorship: the Trisquel community is entitled to its own rules and anyone  
can publish whatever she wants on her own server).


The current +1/-1 system has the advantage of delegating the moderation to  
the community as a whole. I would be in favor of only making the system a  
little bit more strict: a problematic user who received more -1 than +1 could  
have her posts hidden as soon as someone click the -1 button. As far as I  
remember a chat with quidam (months ago), the current can be configured in  
this way. No additional implementation work is needed.


Banning is ineffective because a new account can be created. For instance  
chaosesqueteam has another account under the name vPro. With the  
reinforcement policy I suggest, the new account has his first offensive posts  
hidden as soon as somebody click the -1 button because the account is not  
associated with any +1 post.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
MikeeUSA/Gregory Smith/Mikhail Kvaratskhelia/no2systemd/vPro/chaosesqueteam  
is banned from this forum for the second time.

https://trisquel.info/en/users/chaosesqueteam


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread shiretoko
The unencrypted version allows you to access all your chats and uploaded  
media on all your devices - they're like in a cloud.
If you use the encryption, the chats can only be accessed from the device  
that started the conversation.

So it's a matter of convenience i guess.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread mcz

Oh, got it (at last).
Thanks, for the audio links also.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread nicolasmaia

A good idea to stop spam is to enable captcha as well.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread shiretoko

that's a bad idea for visually disabled people.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!

2015-08-25 Thread travis
I got a "new" desktop from my local Good Will to use as a server. I figured  
I'd have some terminal fun while I was setting it up :)


On a side note: If any of you live near a Good Will Electronics reseller they  
usually have some great equipment for next to nothing if you're working on a  
project that doesn't require top-of-the-line hardware.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread Dave Hunt
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And it would disable mailing list access.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread gramex
After deleting a certain user's posts it now looks like Magic Banana is  
giving a curt reply to Chris that has nothing to do with Chris' post. (Image  
below.)

I'm sure there's many other examples.

This may be a consequence of the forum software used, but it would be nice to  
have the offending posts replaced with "Post deleted by a moderator" or  
something similar.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 10 has the power to remotely disable software and hardware if necessary

2015-08-25 Thread calmstorm
perhaps it is nothing new to you, as for me I think it has gotten drastically  
worse every version after xp, not saying the ones that came before were very  
good... but, windows vista, AWFUL! windows 7 not nearly as bad but still bad.  
Windows 8 REALLY BAD! windows 10, is it even worth mentioning how bad it is?  
mandatory automatic upgrades, the ability to disable remotely  
hardware/software for any reason that deem worthy, and of cours the features  
of previous windows oses of all the spying and ram eating which i can only  
assume is x10


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 10 has the power to remotely disable software and hardware if necessary

2015-08-25 Thread jason

"Windows has always been bad but windows 10 takes the cake lol."

Maybe for now as the current "king of the badness hill", so to speak, but  
just wait until it's dethroned with the next major release of Windows,  
though. I'd bet you'll be eating those words as it becomes even worse.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

Personally I think this looks bad on Applebaum. I've tried to refrain
from criticizing him over it for a variety of reasons. One I didn't
actually know if he really did take money from Todd and provide
advisement early on.. but even if he did I'm not sure thats a crime in
my book to begin with.


Thanks for that feedback. I'd like to know more about why Appelbaum 
would connect himself with Purism. If there's any more you can share, 
I'm sure we'd love to read it.


I have no knowledge of Appelbaum prior to the Snowden revelations. My 
understanding of Appelbaum's work is scarce, but as I understand it 
Snowden trusts him, and he worked with Snowden to get journalists copies 
of these top secret documents for review and publication. I don't know 
if Appelbaum calls himself a journalist or not, but I am not trying to 
exclude him from being one. In any event, I'm very grateful to all the 
leakers and everyone who worked with them. I've benefited greatly from 
their disclosures because I no longer have to explain to friends and 
family what is theoretically possible in an attempt to get them to 
believe their privacy is at risk and mass surveillance is real. I now 
have documents nobody has doubted the veracity of to point to and say 
"this is what they've already done".


Given this vague understanding of what Appelbaum might have done (I 
leave plenty of room realizing I could be wrong in all of this), I 
figure his main value in being listed as an advisor to Purism is 
"lend[ing] credibility" as you said (after all, why tell the public he's 
advising Purism if his advice is really all Purism needs from him? 
Plenty of contractors work for organizations offering valued advice and 
never get credit on the organization's website). Appelbaum could also 
use his explanatory skill to endorse Purism (something I've not 
seen/heard Appelbaum do; maybe that's because I'm not seeing the right 
talks?). I find this troublesome given how Purism can't live up to their 
promises.


Ordinarily, I'd ask about this of Appelbaum himself but I don't have an 
email address for him.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
The forum nesting also seems to be destroyed in multi-page threads. I think I  
agree with onpon4, the nesting should be removed.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread gramex
I agree. I'd rather have some more advanced forum software here like PHPBB or  
Simple Machines, anyway.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread martin
You should use the rating system rather than delete posts.  We shouldn't rely  
on privileged users to delete posts they consider unappropriated.