Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman trying to derail Linux adoption once again
The philosophy of freedom being more important is a correct one. If we want to have free software, we cannot accept non-free software. It is the freedom to have that community (and move within it) that matters. It is about the people and the people's ability to grow and expand upon the skills and gifts of others that matters. It is about that growth that matters. See, we're all supposed to be here for one another. We're supposed to look to God, who, as the Creator, teaches us everything about ourselves. And then we take that knowledge and understanding and we look to our fellow man, those He's placed here with us, and each of us, using our unique and special gifts, examines how we can contribute to that community He created, and to do so that others might receive and build upon our offering, our work, to take it and improve upon it by their own unique and special gifts, so they ultimately produce something more than what could've done by our more limited selves in the first place, so that even of our own work, that work which we cast out unto the waters from our shores, that even we might receive something far better back from the community. This is how we're supposed to be. All of us. And if everybody did this ... everybody would be constantly receiving something better back than what they offered. The unique and special talents we all possess, they are meant to be shared, given to others that they might improve, both improve themselves through instruction and observation, but also to improve the actual work through unique insight and gifts. We offer what we have, so that others can receive and contribute and add back to it, so that when it comes back our way it's more than we sent out. This is how we're supposed to be to each other. God gives us everything and teaches us how to serve others, and in so doing we are wholly served ourselves. None of us are here by accident. We are all part of a plan. And it is God, through His Son Jesus Christ, who shows us how to be, how to live, how to share, how to give, and yes also how to TRULY receive ... and that by giving. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 07/31/2012 09:40 PM, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19065082 Stallman opens up his big mouth again calling Valve games on Linux unethical. Just when most Linux users are getting excited about the OS again, here he comes to try to derail it. We all know his viewpoints on proprietary software (including games) but he is going after the big news sites with this one. Right now, there seems to be some hype and interest from not only Valve, but other developers like Blizzard who are strongly considering Linux. They are considering because they believe that Windows 8 will not only piss off the average consumer, but the Windows 8 App Store may close off developers from releasing independent software of their app store. So with computing moving away from the traditional PC toward smartphones and tablets and with those still hanging on to their desktop PC now being locked into Apple and Microsoft app stores, it is a slap in the face that there are people out there like Stallman who are vindictive in trying to keep Linux a running joke.
Re: [Trisquel-users] What are these patents that MS owns in Linux? More and more people are paying.
Microsoft has not given a list for the devs to then code around. They're just seeking money targets. Evil. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: tegskywal...@hotmail.com Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 05:15 PM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: [Trisquel-users] What are these patents that MS owns in Linux? More and more people are paying. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-inks-patent-deal-with-service-provider-using-linux-servers-701498/ First it was Amazon in 2010 for their datacenters and now Microsoft is licensing technology that they own the patents when it is used in a Linux datacenter. Of course no one is disclosing what the actual patent is or what it stands for, but these companies are growing in paying Microsoft just to have the right to use them. We all know that Apple just wants to shut you down when you violate their patents and Microsoft plays nice and has you pay for them. What is in Linux that Microsoft has the patent for and does it also apply to Trisquel? Will we have to pay Microsoft if Trisquel is used in a datacenter?
Re: [Trisquel-users] What are these patents that MS owns in Linux? More and more people are paying.
When I was a journalist, they were called paid shills. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: mikko.viinam...@students.turkuamk.fi Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 05:32 PM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] What are these patents that MS owns in Linux? More and more people are paying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt#Microsoft ps. zdnet is rubbish
Re: [Trisquel-users] What are these patents that MS owns in Linux? More and more people are paying.
In my opinion, the worst part about it is the degree to which they're being sneaky about what patents they hold. Almost extortionist. I believe Linux and GNU will be in real trouble this decade, and the face of free software will change by this movement already underfoot here, as seen in Microsoft. These, and SecureBoot, won't be the last attacks either so long as the Fedoras and Ubuntus of the world bow to their demands. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: kendell clark coffeekin...@gmail.com Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 05:59 PM To: User help and discussion trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] What are these patents that MS owns in Linux? More and more people are paying. This is disturbing. MS isn't supposed to have any part in linux other than the code it contributed to the linux kernel who knows when. This is part of why I use linux, to get away from the MS corporate structure. Now they're involved in linux? Sighs.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Thinkpenguin suggestions/questions
On 07/22/2012 01:07 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote: There are no plans for an 11 netbook at this time. There are plans to replace teh 13.3 model we are currently selling with another 134.3 model. It is extremely light and available with a minimally spec'd CPU to keep the price down. How much will that 134.3 model sell for? $50, $60K? Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show
RMS also has personal views where he believes pedophilia and necrophilia should be legalized, provided all parties involved are in agreement. I have personally written to him and verified this quote is accurate, and not taken out of context. It is his belief. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman Search for pedophilia or necrophilia and you'll find that section. It is for this reason that I have started a new free software foundation, called Liberty Software Foundation. This all happened last week, so I am still figuring things out and getting started. http://libsf.org I wanted an official vehicle to continue the work I've found beneficial from the FSF, but without any affiliation with Stallman. Support is welcomed. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 07/16/2012 07:52 AM, magicban...@gmail.com wrote: This topic is not constructive because you just ignore what people wrote to you. RMS is very different from the CEO of a large proprietary company. His objective is social/ethical and not financial at all. RMS makes a *very modest* living by defending his viewpoints. Given his exceptional technical skills, he would be rich today if he would have gone to the path of proprietary companies. RMS does not need you to buy his product. Otherwise he would precisely do what you seem to regret: he would not badmouth large companies so that these companies invite him. His viewpoints are *separated* from those of the FSF. They are on stallman.org and go far beyond free software (whereas the FSF exclusively focuses on free software).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show
A life's work giving full and proper credit over to God is not for everybody. No hard feelings. :-) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 07/16/2012 09:03 AM, Michał Masłowski wrote: RMS also has personal views where he believes pedophilia and necrophilia should be legalized, provided all parties involved are in agreement. I have personally written to him and verified this quote is accurate, and not taken out of context. It is his belief. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman Search for pedophilia or necrophilia and you'll find that section. If X is not a subset of Y, Y is not a subset of X, both are not empty, and X is harmful and illegal, Y itself isn't harmful, and we usually speak about the intersection of X and Y, should we prohibit Y? Harming children (also e.g. by arresting them for sharing pictures of themselves with other children) is bad and isn't the same as what RMS writes about. It is for this reason that I have started a new free software foundation, called Liberty Software Foundation. This all happened last week, so I am still figuring things out and getting started. http://libsf.org I wanted an official vehicle to continue the work I've found beneficial from the FSF, but without any affiliation with Stallman. Support is welcomed. I won't support your organization for the beliefs stated there. If you support a master, why not support software controlled by a master. Another issue that I consider harmful are the modified (ignoring the licensing notice stated there) and renamed licenses. Unless this license has a non-literal meaning, they seem incompatible with much free software.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show
On 07/16/2012 09:19 AM, magicban...@gmail.com wrote: As you write, those are personal views and have absolutely nothing to do with the FSF. We do not need another foundation. The two are inseparable. You cannot isolate damning components of your being over here, and then have a set of productive, positive-contribution things over there. If you have the damning components as part of your fundamental belief system, everything you do is tainted. I realize that in general society doesn't see it this way. But it is the way it is. Do you believe that the president of a foundation should never express her/his opinions on completely unrelated subjects and on a website that is completely unrelated with that of the foundation? I don't. Notice moreover that stallman.org clearly states it on the home page: I believe a person reflects their entire core belief structure in everything they do. And if there are any components which are damning ... then the entire thing must be addressed with the attempt made to change that course, and if it can't be, then it must be avoided. I tried to communicate with RMS over this. He is passionate about his views being correct. So ... I leave it there and move on. This is the personal web site of Richard Stallman. The views expressed here are my personal views, not those of the Free Software Foundation or the GNU Project. The two are inseparable. The man is what he is, and the things he contributes to will be affected by him. There are spiritual components to our existence which come off of us and influence others even when we're not there any longer. We must severe ties to keep ourselves clean (unspotted from the world). I am not perfect at this yet as I have 42 years of mindset-inertia and societal teachings working continually against me, but I am learning, understanding, and putting into practice that which I believe on the inside. It's a hard walk. I am alone in it right now. My family, friends, they've all left me to go and pursue stuff of this world. Yet, in my heart I know what I am doing is right ... so, as painful as it is (and it is painful), I proceed. It's okay if nobody wants to assist me. It's okay if I am considered something other than desirable for pursuing this course. It's what I must do. Hope this makes sense. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show
On 07/16/2012 10:26 AM, hos...@gmail.com wrote: Repeated jabs at rms about his views on disgusting unnatural s*x acts compelled me to go searching out on the internet. I am absolutely shocked to find that the rumors are indeed true. Earlier, i thought they were just rumors spread by propriety software companies. .[http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#On_sex wikiqoute], .[http://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html rhinophytonec..], .[http://stallman.org/articles/extreme.html extreme], .[http://www.stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05%20June%202006%20%28Dutch%20paedophiles%20form%20political%20party%29 Dutch] This is so bad, cant imagine how much badly this is going to effect FSF's image. I still just cant believe it that RMS has these sick ideas. LibSF is defintely not the answer to any issues here. LibSF = Freeware(copy,distribute;But, no modifications), nothing new about it. Giving it a spiritual touch is okay, but LibSF is preaching only Christianity. LifSF is continuing the work of the FSF and GNU. We use a copyleft protected licensing scheme, not freeware, not public domain. We are built around the central axioms of free software in the traditional copyleft plus four fundamental freedoms / rights sense. We are just doing it away from Stallman. Emblem(signature image) used is associated with [http://vloeberghs.com/SheperdoftheHills.html Churches]; Describing LibSF as 'God fearing alternative' and then mentioning Jesus in footer; all seems kinda like you are imposing Christianity. Christianity *IS* at the heart of why LibSF exists. We recognize that everything we have, everything we are, everything we can be, that all of it is a gift which comes from God, and that the rock upon which we must build everything is Jesus Christ. Free software, the idea of giving that which you possess unto others, that they might take your work and receive it, and possibly improve upon it, making the end result better than you individually were capable of doing alone, is the very central idea of what Jesus Christ. When He came here, He gave everything. Very few received Him, but it was offered to all, and it was completely free. It is my best attempt at devoting my talents and life to Jesus Christ. I am probably making every mistake possible as I am pioneering this effort (to my knowledge at least) ... but I pray I will get it right in time. LibSF is DOA. The image may be from them. It will be replaced at some point soon. It was one I found online and edited. LibSF has no affiliation with a particular church building. We are Christians across the globe working together for Jesus Christ. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show
On 07/16/2012 10:44 AM, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: LibSF was created to be a God-fearing alternative to both the Linux Foundation and The FSF (Free Software Foundation), because of certain beliefs held by their founders. It is not a parody. It is a fundamental difference of foundation. RMS works with free software because he believes in it. Personally. He doesn't have a foundation in anything other than his personal sense of morals and ethics as to why he believes in it. This is well stated in his book Free as in Freedom, along with countless other interviews. Torvalds is also an atheist, describing himself as completely a-religious -- atheist. For me, I cannot contribute to either of those projects. They are founded upon people whose lives are not founded upon God, and specifically Jesus Christ. So, I had to create something new with which to proceed. I don't know if this is serious or a parody. I'm really curious because this seems in response to RMS fully supporting the objectification of children and his viewpoints being reflective of the FSF as a whole. Heck, this site even has its own GPL, Affero, and Lesser GPL licenses too. It is serious. And as I say, I am probably making every mistake possible in how I am getting it off the ground. It is the best I can do, and I pray that the mistakes will be corrected over time. I am doing this because I know that everything we are, everything we have comes from God, and through His Son, Jesus Christ. Without our building everything we do upon Him, nothing we do will ever stand or be of value. LibSF is my faith put into practice, and my beliefs put into action. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show
that other people's hearts will be opened, that they too may come to know that which we know. God is not dead ... He lives in us. You can see Him by our actions. We offer what we offer in love, expecting nothing in return. But if you or anybody else wants to help, we are grateful to God for that as well. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show
RMS was not invited to speak at the LinuxWorld Summit in Revolution OS. He spoke briefly when receiving the Linus Torvalds award, but that's about it. This is discussed in his book: Free as in Freedom. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: magicban...@gmail.com Sent: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 06:56 AM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: [Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show I'm not going to repeat what I said in heavy detail either (and I am tired of providing links you ignore), but: Richard Stallman is *not* using the FSF as a way to pay his flights. His flights are paid by who is inviting him to give a talk. And rms uses these talks to raise quite a lot of money for the FSF (auction, sell of goodies, etc.). Richard Stallman would never speak at Google I/O because he would never be invited in the first place. If he would, I strongly believe that he would go and speak... about the privacy problems Google+ raise, the even greater problem of SaaS (Google Docs being the best example), etc. When you are subversive, you are not invited anywhere. I assume you would prefer Stallman not to be subversive. I certainly would not. The large companies already are far too powerful (politically) and people need to take the power back. It will never happen if you only consider talks authorized by Google and other mega-corporations. Richard Stallman has spoken numerous times to very large audiences (for instance, the LinuxWorld Summit as displayed in the movie RevolutionOS). Besides, I really do not like the tone of your sentence small groups, at a university, or some small country (maybe because I am an academics in a country that is not the USA, hence probably small in your way of thinking). Richard Stallman does not hate capitalism, the economic theory (but I assume you make a confusion between Republicans and Capitalism). Richard Stallman should be taken seriously. Do you remember who wrote, in 1983, that he would start alone a complete operating system (not only programming tools) that would be free? It is not only a technical performance but a political one too. Today, the free software movement counts tens (hundreds?) of thousands of developers. Thousands for the GNU project alone. The movement lacks people like rms brilliantly explaining (you write rambling but it looks useful since you keep on pretending he says things he does not) the ethical motivations that started it all. The Free Software movement is not technical but, yes, ethical, social and political.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show
I watched this show last night (episode 200, called GNU/Linux Action Show), as well as episode 201 (where the hosts also discuss RMS for a lengthy segment). I found the host on the left, Bryan Lunduke, to be of such a kind of person that I do not believe I can watch this show ever again. Through the show I did learn about some comments made by RMS in the mid-2000s regarding pedophilia and necrophilia, that they should be legalized so long as all parties involved are okay with it and not frowned upon to the extent they are today. :-( These comments have significantly changed my opinion of RMS as a person. However, my feelings on free software have not changed. Yet, I am at this place now where I find it very difficult to move forward with either the FSF or GNU because of Stallman. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 07/09/2012 07:14 PM, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: lembas' link is legit. Of course if you want YouTube, it is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=radmjL5OIaA
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel forum policy LIES
I receive email from the list. I hit reply. My email programs are set to include quoted prior content. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: sirgr...@member.fsf.org Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 12:20 AM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel forum policy LIES We were discussing options: Trisquel IRC (09:33:42 AM) quidam: but we need to decide what to do anyway (09:33:47 AM) quidam: we can: (09:34:06 AM) quidam: - hack mailman to make it behave as we want (09:34:34 AM) quidam: - disconnect the lists and the forum, so the forum will be anonymous if you want that (09:35:15 AM) quidam: - keep it as it is, and warn that the forum is not anonymous regarding to email Trisquel IRC Rick, if you don't mind asking how are you posting on the forums. Are you doing so through the website? Or are you doing it through the [http://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-users mailing list?]. Also specifically if you are using the website what are you using to quote users? Thanks. Because part of the problem is that the website forum is linked to the mailman mailing-list and so actually if you go to the mailing list everyone's email is public. It isn't simply just if you quote someone else.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show
I found pausing and restarting fixed the 35KB/s download issue. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: Ivaylo Valkov iva...@e-valkov.org Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 01:17 AM To: User help and discussion trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show В 16:18 +0200 на 09.07.2012 (пн), pugak...@fakeinbox.com написа: Is anyone still able to view or download this from the [http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/17822/richard-stallman-gnulas-s20e10/ given link] by thread starter. I keep getting a 35kb file for all the direct download options on that page. I get the same behavior with Linterna Mágica. The strangest thing is that if I copy the extracted link and pass it to wget I get the right file. [1] [2] The only logical explanation is they sniff the user-agent string, but then it is a mystery why wget does not trigger this Turns out they return the 35/37KB file on some user-agents. [3] Seems their user-agent sniffing logic is a poor job. ;) [1] $ wget --spider http://blip.tv/file/get/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v; Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists. --2012-07-10 08:11:49-- http://blip.tv/file/get/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v Resolving blip.tv... 74.122.174.250 Connecting to blip.tv|74.122.174.250|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://j1.video2.blip.tv/7430010534036/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v [following] Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists. --2012-07-10 08:11:49-- http://j1.video2.blip.tv/7430010534036/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v Resolving j1.video2.blip.tv... 198.78.208.254, 192.221.103.254, 207.123.56.126 Connecting to j1.video2.blip.tv|198.78.208.254|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 666395814 (636M) [video/mp4] Remote file exists. [2] $ wget -O RMS_linux_show.mp4 http://blip.tv/file/get/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v; --2012-07-10 08:12:07-- http://blip.tv/file/get/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v Resolving blip.tv... 74.122.174.250 Connecting to blip.tv|74.122.174.250|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://j1.video2.blip.tv/7430010534036/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v [following] --2012-07-10 08:12:07-- http://j1.video2.blip.tv/7430010534036/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v Resolving j1.video2.blip.tv... 198.78.208.254, 192.221.103.254, 207.123.56.126 Connecting to j1.video2.blip.tv|198.78.208.254|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 666395814 (636M) [video/mp4] Saving to: `RMS_linux_show.mp4' 0% [ ] 548,544 1.31M/s [3] $ wget --spider --user-agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110927 IceCat/3.6.16 (like Firefox/3.6.16) http://blip.tv/file/get/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v; Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists. --2012-07-10 08:13:39-- http://blip.tv/file/get/Jupiterbroadcasting-RichardStallmanGNULASS20e10231.m4v Resolving blip.tv... 74.122.174.250 Connecting to blip.tv|74.122.174.250|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://j-mirror.video2.blip.tv/Potatono-OOPViews677.mp4 [following] Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists. --2012-07-10 08:13:39-- http://j-mirror.video2.blip.tv/Potatono-OOPViews677.mp4 Resolving j-mirror.video2.blip.tv... 74.122.173.250 Connecting to j-mirror.video2.blip.tv|74.122.173.250|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://j42.video2.blip.tv/5560010393798/Potatono-OOPViews677.mp4 [following] Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists. --2012-07-10 08:13:40-- http://j42.video2.blip.tv/5560010393798/Potatono-OOPViews677.mp4 Resolving j42.video2.blip.tv... 198.78.208.254, 192.221.103.254, 207.123.56.126 Connecting to j42.video2.blip.tv|198.78.208.254|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 38370 (37K) [video/mp4] Remote file exists.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel forum policy LIES
One other note is that when I receive an email it has three addresses: me, the list, and the original poster. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: sirgr...@member.fsf.org Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 12:20 AM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel forum policy LIES We were discussing options: Trisquel IRC (09:33:42 AM) quidam: but we need to decide what to do anyway (09:33:47 AM) quidam: we can: (09:34:06 AM) quidam: - hack mailman to make it behave as we want (09:34:34 AM) quidam: - disconnect the lists and the forum, so the forum will be anonymous if you want that (09:35:15 AM) quidam: - keep it as it is, and warn that the forum is not anonymous regarding to email Trisquel IRC Rick, if you don't mind asking how are you posting on the forums. Are you doing so through the website? Or are you doing it through the [http://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-users mailing list?]. Also specifically if you are using the website what are you using to quote users? Thanks. Because part of the problem is that the website forum is linked to the mailman mailing-list and so actually if you go to the mailing list everyone's email is public. It isn't simply just if you quote someone else.
Re: [Trisquel-users] About DRM and Freedom
There will always be dishonest people. The work you do is for those who will use it rightly. And those people will donate or participate or in some way repay that which you give in effort to it. On 07/09/2012 10:11 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote: DRM-free is not an effortless endeavour. Nor is DRM though. If you can't stand your work being used without compensation don't publish it to begin with. It'll solve the problem. Ultimately people pirate with or without DRM and you are only hurting your customers who are more likely to pirate if you implement DRM. You give people an excuse and they will take it.
[Trisquel-users] Shutdown / restart issue
I have a Gigabyte motherboard with integrated AMD/ATI Radeon HD 4200: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394 And I'm using a Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8 GHz CPU with 8GB of DDR3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851 With Trisquel 5.0 (and now 5.5), when I shutdown or restart, about half the time, I get an unending series of errors which don't stop. It refers to something about a radeon memory allocation error, and just repeats forever. The other half it does that for about 5x to 20x screen pages, and then reboots like normal. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Shutdown / restart issue
On 07/03/2012 12:01 PM, sirgr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Whoa dude you must have something weird going on with your system because that page (rrhistorical) is not at all what he linked. He linked to a trisquel bug page. I'm seeing this thread and responding to it on the email list, not the forum. He must've edited it after the initial posting. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Shutdown / restart issue
LOL! Well, that's not to say I'm not. :-) But, probably less likely that I am. :-) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 07/03/2012 02:14 PM, sirgr...@member.fsf.org wrote: That makes sense. I thought you were getting man in the middle attacked or something.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing 5.5 on Toshiba Notebook
I agree completely with this position. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: yee...@gmail.com Sent: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 04:01 AM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing 5.5 on Toshiba Notebook Chris, I was chatting with somebody at #fsf, and they said to totally avoid Intel, due to their integrating DRM into their CPUs and other freedom hostile things... He said go with AMD and use Nouveau drivers for an nVidia car. His other option was not getting a new computer at all and donating the money to free software development instead! Ruling out both AMD and Intel would make it almost impossible to find a CPU maker!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing 5.5 on Toshiba Notebook
I find this: [83.953255] init: udev-fallback-graphics main process (3575) terminated with status 1 [84.059919] lp: driver loaded but no devices found ... [90.288738] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (4131) terminated with status 1 Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/27/2012 11:03 AM, mikko.viinam...@students.turkuamk.fi wrote: You could try reading dmesg|less for any insights. And installing the latest version of www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Apple just killed off the Samsung Galaxy Tab
I have vowed off Apple since the mid-90s. I've actively and purposefully avoided everything related to them and advised everyone I know to NOT use or buy their products, including iTunes and QuickTime software. Apple is evil. $536+ billion market capitalization. Ever hear the expression, Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely? There it is. :-( http://www.google.com/finance?client=obq=NASDAQ:AAPL Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/27/2012 01:17 PM, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apple-wins-us-sales-injunction-against-samsung-galaxy-tab-101/81028 While Samsung will certainly suffer lost sales from the issuance of an injunction, the hardship to Apple of having to directly compete with Samsung’s infringing products outweighs Samsung’s harm in light of the previous findings by the Court. A Samsung statement said: Should Apple continue to make legal claims based on such a generic design patent, design innovation and progress in the industry could be restricted. An Apple spokesperson said that this kind of blatant copying is wrong and, as we’ve said many times before, we need to protect Apple’s intellectual property when companies steal our ideas, reiterating an earlier company statement. The Cupertino-based company did not say when — or even if — the bond would be posted. Another reason why I don't buy tablets and why I would NEVER buy an Apple product either for a phone or tablet. It seems that Apple's war against Android is still going very strong with the courts sadly on their side. How the f**k is this good for the future of computing when the average consumer is moving away from PCs and to smartphones and tablets?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Next Trisquel LTS
On 06/25/2012 04:27 PM, johannesdesilenti...@gmail.com wrote: Some discussion and suggestion regarding the next release, which I assume will be an LTS based on 12.04 Rather than using Gnome 3, I think Trisquel should move towards the most stable and usable MATE desktop environment, similar to Linux Mint's latest release. Anybody else agree? Well, I truly hate Gnome 3 if only because its Gnome 2 compatibility layer is not even close to the real Gnome 2. I also hate Gnome 3 as a UI in general, and am no fan of Unity either. Gnome 3 has kept me from moving from Trisquel 5.0 to 5.5 (because the Gnome 2 compatibility layer is horrid). I've never used MATE. I'll download Linux Mint, give it a try and see what it looks like. At this point, would welcome just about anything other than Gnome. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
[Trisquel-users] Trisquel release numbering
I was wondering about the Trisquel release numbers. Since the next release will base things off 12.04, why not keep a numbering system similar to that source? Switch from Trisquel 6.0 to Trisquel 12.04, Trisquel 12.10 and so on? Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Next Trisquel LTS
I'm in. :-) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/25/2012 06:09 PM, ste...@mulleady.net wrote: MATE = Gnome 2.32 sources renamed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Next Trisquel LTS
I'm in favor of shipping Trisquel with something other than MATE enabled by default, just so long as MATE is there too and can be easily enabled (like through the login screen). I'm 42 yrs old and both Unity and GNOME3 make me cry like a baby with their UIs. They just aren't right. :-) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/25/2012 06:20 PM, magicban...@gmail.com wrote: There is some work on this desktop environment. If it sticks to GTK 2, I do not see much future in it because that would mean the versions of the GNOME applications, which MATE ships, will never be updated (what may include some security leaks that may never be fixed). Notice also that no distribution ships MATE as the default environment. Mint now prefers Cinnamon, which is based on GNOME 3.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Next Trisquel LTS
Robert, Didn't know such a thing was possible! Will try XFCE. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/25/2012 06:28 PM, Roberto Rodríguez wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In Brigantia I did not choose Gnome 3 neither Trisquel-Mini but rather the nice and stable XFCE and I´m as happy as I can be. - -- Roberto Rodríguez -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP6OYLAAoJEDAtO92k6pOVlMoH/2Bqz062sIpPzwYtVZjP98mH I1ROI+tXmSZapH0pTFbrM/jr4biw3btNQG/WrKJt1oENONLwKs8mu0zVPLS6Tnxv u/mnjnAI7X6txQgk+Q58B//qsRzRcfVE3RDbeMqXVoOlmzSTrSvM19TmiiU089ye rAMrtkTrNnkDS4BmwgsMlRKDXdK5zBdaR8VV7146MwYfy2e5M2IiRuTjg5bjShxb /0y0kEPZDMnOtxuvP+b4kAAEv4CXbs1yGvQ5VIkRInXSs08xKXgwvr8ImORjeDzt ahFGrFRh4TeulNFEcWoEKNmpay7LvKo+wTHk+/agyxraEMmrusqeHVon7RV07x4= =qoMy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Trisquel-users] Next Trisquel LTS
I don't think AMD released all their hardware specs. Their drivers are still proprietary. Trisquel 5.x will not use the card in my Toshiba notebook in native resolutions (1600 x 1200). It will only boot up in something like 1280 x 960. Trisquel 5.x does use the motherboard-card on my desktop machine just fine. I was hoping the 3.4 kernel would fix the notebook issue, but it didn't. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/25/2012 06:33 PM, ste...@mulleady.net wrote: I have an AMD card in my Elitebook, works fine out of the box when I used Linux mint for 3d acceleration. Why single out AMD when they actually relase hardware specifications to the community, unlike NVIDIA?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel release numbering
Codenames are great. I enjoy them. Especially when they're doubled-up like Pointy Panda or Zealous Zebra ... but when you're looking back through a bunch of install DVDs, I'd prefer numbers. Numbers are easier and make more sense in the long-term (IMO). Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/25/2012 06:31 PM, teodores...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose 'Trisquel 12.09' would be more appropriate than 'Trisquel 6.0', but personally I prefer code names.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Linus supports Secure Boot and doesn't think its a big deal
It's why we need HURD. The Linux camp does not support free software. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: tegskywal...@hotmail.com Sent: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 03:44 PM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: [Trisquel-users] Linus supports Secure Boot and doesn't think its a big deal And if it's only $99 to get a key for Fedora, I don't see what the huge deal is. - Linus Torvalds http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/061512-windows8-update-260229.html P.S. We discussed this earlier with Red Hat and Canonical possibly paying for the keys to get their OSes through the Windows 8 secure boot. How this affects smaller distros could be a different story. With Trisquel, won't it already be paid for by Canonical since it is based off Ubuntu or will Ruben have to fork over $99?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Humble Indie Bundle
. It affords opportunities like Azure to exist, even Ubuntu to exist. And people will not take the time required to step back and philosophically analyze the ramifications of some of the choices they make, but instead will (to them) simply be grabbing a tool to use, and the entities in place to wield their power (power of hardware and software in these tool areas) will do so without having proper motives in mind. They will do so to garner information, gather data, connect the dots, not to provide a service. People need to wake up to what's happening. I don't believe it can be stopped because this very scenario is described in the Bible regarding the end times and one-world financial system, the mark of the beast where nobody on Earth can buy or sell anything unless they receive the mark. So it's inevitable, it has been foretold, such a system IS coming, and it's going to be everywhere, in everybody's home, in everybody's car, on everybody's person, at everybody's cubicle / workspace. It cannot be stopped. But for those who will be saved from this evil, they need to know about it. What matters is it complies with a free standard for compatibility and therefore supportable by others should they be so inclined to develop there own compatible services. It's not your hardware. It's Canonicals. It would be like us publishing the code to our web site. While it may be of little value to others it's only where that code is obfuscated javascript under a proprietary license that a concern exists. This isn't to say though that relying on a service for which you can't move away from isn't bad. It is. I wouldn't use Canonical's services as a user unless I could move away form it should I ever need to. That they don't release the code here though doesn't seem unusual or in violation of the four freedoms since the users aren't running that code. And while we are running free software (ThinkPenguin.com)there aren't any obligations for us to release any changes we make to it unless we distribute it. We aren't. We are the end user not our customers. That is the free software position as far as I understand it. The Landscape software for the enterprise always seemed like a bad move to me. At the time that move did make me think why are you going to distance yourself from your customers? As much as we are focused on less technical users we aren't going to go out of our way to distance ourselves from the people pushing our product. I urge everybody to watch these videos by Eben Moglen. They will/may open your eyes to what's going on here with non-free software and locked-down hardware: re:publica 2012 - Why freedom of thought requires free media, and why free media requires free technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKOk4Y4inVY Innovation Under Austerity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2VHf5vpBy8 Also this shorter interview by yasssu taken in Berlin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJCczbSF-B8 Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Humble Indie Bundle
I think for a lot of power users the only thing really holding them back from switching to Linux is that they don't want to lose gaming, or lose performance by running it in a VM or mess around with dual booting. I'm sure there are a lot of apps people would be willing to either pay for up front in Linux, or pay as they use it over time. It's the model of Donate to Author or Donate to Project featured prominently somewhere, and would be a welcomed addition to free software downloads. There are certain tools I use every day that if there were a simple Donate button available somewhere that's linked to a secure transaction site, I might press it two or three times a week and send off a dollar each time because that tool just made my life easier, did some fantastic job for me, or whatever. Rather than paying $120 up front, I might pay out $120 over the lifetime of me using the app. I'm sure I'm not alone on this. RMS has mentioned something similar in several speeches for sending an artist/group money for free downloadable music. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/12/2012 04:43 PM, teodores...@gmail.com wrote: Well, GNU/Linux users may very well pay more for the same product but you have to admit that the Windows and Mac users are having far better alternatives for gaming and that the humblebundle data is irrelevant in relation to the gaming ecosystem. However, I must admit that the fact that the GNU/Linux users are willing to pay for games is sending a good signal to game developers, be that libre or not; I believe the road from Linux to GNU/Linux(libre) is shorter than the road from Windows/Mac to GNU/Linux(libre).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Humble Indie Bundle
The quote I gave about RMS was regarding paying a certain dollar amount periodically to developers while using software, or to an artist / group while listening to music. A button available on the player itself that says Donate $1 that can be pressed when the music is really moving you, for example. Or a link on the help menu that allows you to click Donate $1 when you have just done something awesome and you want to give a little back. As far as non-free software goes, RMS is always exceedingly clear on that. He believes categorically that non-free software only harms everybody continually. And he's right. That being said, we live in society. There are very few people who truly realize any aspects of Stallman's arguments. The number is growing, but I'd wager it's below 0.1% of all software users, Windows, Mac and *nux. It's just not something people care about. The benefits of having free software (Linux, GNU, other free software) are today totally lost on all of those people who will not approach GNU/Linux, FreeBSD or other similar system, simply because of the reputation it has with no games, no cool apps, etc. Gaming could bring people over. They'd begin to hear the message of free software. And, as Stallman says, some of those people will understand it and be moved to make a change in their computing lives as well. I believe in free software unreservedly. I see the harm non-free software does every day. Enough that there is not a single person with whom I'm acquainted that hasn't heard me discuss it whenever we spend more than 2 minutes together socially. But I also need to be able to use my tools effectively. I need things to be able to do a job. I have to have features which work or else my hands are tied. The same is true for 99.9% or more of computer users out there. They won't take the time to learn Linux or other free software system because it requires energy, their time, going through hassles and difficulties, retraining their way of thinking, etc. It's a huge curve for most people. Having awesome games running on Linux might take some of the edge off that, allow them to tolerate a little of the hardship, and increase the user base. It's also something regular Linux users have wanted for years. There are many, for example, which keep Windows partitions around just for gaming. With properly ported games, that would no longer be required either. The day of Linux (and I pray the HURD) is coming. The age of free software will have its time in the limelight simply because you cannot innovate as even a large corporation as quickly as you can with free software efforts. Linux is sustaining nearly 7 changes per hour, 24/7/365. It's around 10K lines of code added or changed each day. No single company (even Microsoft or Google) can maintain that rate of change continually, 24/7. There are just too many people contributing to the Linux kernel now to pass it by. This is also why I pray the HURD gets some funding (not monetarily, but capital nonetheless -- time, effort, energies, resources from people) and is completed, because it needs to be completed on a GPLv3 kernel, with itself being moved from GPLv2 to v3. And if not, then a GNU replacement needs to be created, so the GNU Operating System can truly be finished. If I could find a way to eat where I only devoted 3-4 hours per day of doing actual, physical work for my daily job, I would devote the rest of my workday time to finishing that kernel/OS. In any event... some of my opinions and ramblings. Please feel free to disregard. :-) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/12/2012 06:30 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote: This has to be taken out of context and is very misleading. The last I spoke with Stallman he was saying non-free software for GNU/Linux is bad for freedom. While the above statement may be a quote from him it doesn't lead to say he supports or otherwise encourages non-free software or is in any way good for freedom or GNU/Linux. This is different from the licensing issue. Not everything should be released under the GPL. However that doesn't mean it is OK to release it under a non-free license.
Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?
It was my understanding AMD released their driver source code in March for 3.4 kernel update. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: m...@mtjm.eu Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2012 09:21 AM To: User help and discussion trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member? What can I do to help Trisquel? If there's a way I can help get the recently released AMD open-source drivers working ... point me in the right direction and I'll go for it. These drivers (as they have been doing for years) require nonfree microcode which is sourceless and (for modern cards) has a license forbidding reverse engineering. There is completely no AMD cooperation on replacing it. I don't expect this to be easy to fix (although Nouveau developers probably did similar tasks for different architectures). (My reason for not being a member is not using PayPal, this can change. I don't contribute to Trisquel in programming ways, since I don't experience easier bugs and have several other projects I spend not enough time on.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?
On 06/08/2012 11:12 AM, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: You can install MATE from http://mate-desktop.org and then install the trisquel-themes-gtk and trisquel-icons manually for the 5.0 release to get the Gnome 2 look in 5.5. The program names will be different like caja instead of nautilus and may require manual tweaks to be exactly like Trisquel 5.0. Thanks, tegskywalker! :-) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Secure boot and the future of Trisquel. Who will pay Microsoft?
BIOS contains bugs too. It can be updated (flashed) periodically to fix them, or to support new cpus. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: teodores...@gmail.com Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 04:05 PM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Secure boot and the future of Trisquel. Who will pay Microsoft? Dose anybody know why the BIOS is no longer put on a ROM ? From what I saw, the Secure Boot justification from Microsoft is sharing basically the same problem with the FSF's need of free BIOS, which is that the BIOS is not read only.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A good place to buy a Linux-libre Laptop in the UK
Agree 100%. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: ch...@thinkpenguin.com Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:29 PM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] A good place to buy a Linux-libre Laptop in the UK I totally agree with you. This isn't just an issue for libre GNU/Linux users though. Non-free software negatively impacts everybody and the Ubuntu population is (unkowningly) doing themselves and everybody else a diservice by supporting non-free software- particularly where there are decent free software friendly solutions available. I like what Debian has done in recent releases. They stopped shipping the non-free firmware with the distribution even though there is still support for it. I think ultimately what we should be doing as distributors of GNU/Linux (Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc) is releasing software that is more freedom friendly and point people to freedom friendly hardware. It may not be the right answer although it at least builds the demand. I think that is largely what Trisquel has done (all a bit more extreme- for the right reasons) and even while I don't think Linux Mint, Ubuntu, or other distributions are going to impliment it to this extent there is still room to work with them where the goals overlap (freedom for support / ease of use /etc - rather than ethical).
Re: [Trisquel-users] A good place to buy a Linux-libre Laptop in the UK
Agree 100%. Free software, firmware and even plugin free hardware modules (over a range of free connection protocols) is essential in the age of the web. Freedom 0 - the ability to use the thing the way __I__ want to use it. Why? Because it's only a thing, and I'm a person. That thing I use should not be an agent of another entity, a remote, invisible army-man-like device working/fighting tirelessly against me, gathering data on me, to be used for God only knows what purposes. It should be my trustworthy tool, nothing more. It should be in my arsenal, not in another's. Free software is absolutely essential to free media in an age where media flows through the web. And free media is absolutely essential to free thought. And free thought is absolutely essential for the opportunity to have a free society. It is not a trifle we're facing with non-free software in the age of the web. It's a battle of such scope that if we lose, it will mean the elimination of everything we've striven for as a society since the adoption of writing. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: ch...@thinkpenguin.com Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:38 PM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] A good place to buy a Linux-libre Laptop in the UK I actually have more 'extreme' views than RMS in regards to what should be free. :) However his patience certaintly trumps mine. The BIOS should be free. If it can be changed we should be able to fix it/update it/improve upon it/etc. Simply moving to a read only BIOS seems wrong even if it solves the probably 'technically'. The writing is non-trival although so is the porting proccess. There are some good reasons for installing an alternative BIOS even if it isn't something one would update regularly. For instance there are some features one might want to impliment or use that aren't otherwise available. I can think of some good examples. If I want to connect my computer to a network and control it remotely I may not be able to do that with the firmware released by a motherboard manufacturer. However I should be able to add such features in. Then I could turn the computer on/off remotely, restart it, etc. These features actually exist I believe in the fre BIOS project's BIOS. There is a non-free BIOS with similar features too.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Secure boot and the future of Trisquel. Who will pay Microsoft?
Exactly my thoughts. The only good news I read is RedHat's boot loader will only load grub2, which can then be used to launch other free operating systems, and not just RedHat's. Still, Secure Boot will now be enabled by default on all devices, and only a hidden setting turns it off. Evil. Just evil. The Freedombox project could surely use everybody's support who's outraged by this. Google freedombox if you don't know about it. It's a design to get a completely free software stack running on a tiny server about the size of a cell phone, and for less than $50 when complete. The idea is to have millions of these little servers running outside the regular Internet. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 06/01/2012 12:49 PM, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: I read today that RedHat will pay Microsofot to make sure their operating systems are able to boot with the upcoming Secure Boot that Microsoft may or may not require OEMs to have: http://www.geek.com/articles/news/redhat-will-pay-microsoft-to-ensure-fedora-18-runs-on-windows-8-pcs-2012061/ With this in mind, it would suck if operating systems will require payment to Microsoft to be able to install with Secure Boot in place. How would this affect community distros like Debian, Slackware and Arch? If that is the case, would Canonical pay Microsoft for Ubuntu? I say this because Trisquel is based off of Ubuntu and their payment towards it would then hopefully affect Trisquel due to the shared code base. I am aware that there are companies like Think Penguin and System76 that think about GNU/Linux support as their main concern, but Secure Boot affects the average consumer who buys a computer from a store or a retailer like Dell. Let's just hope Stallman doesn't have another heart attack if this is the way of computing from now on.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running kernel 3.4
I was able to get 3.4 up and running. It worked perfectly for everything I tested, except for these items: 1) It still does not support ATI video cards (which was the only reason I wanted to upgrade), 2) Blender 2.62 did not work, would launch and immediately close. 3) Xine would not work, would launch and immediately close. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 05/29/2012 01:43 PM, tralfamadorianora...@member.fsf.org wrote: You can also build the kernel from source. Here's my usual procedure. If you don't have the build requirements: sudo apt-get install build-essential ncurses5 wget http://www.linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/LATEST-3.4.N/linux-libre-3.4-gnu.tar.xz tar xf linux-libre-3.4-gnu.tar.xz cd linux-3.4 make menuconfig (to edit and save the kernel .config file) INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 make deb-pkg (this can take a few hours) cd .. sudo dpkg -i linux-*.deb
[Trisquel-users] InDisk utility
Has anybody heard of a utility like this? Its intent is to create a ram-disk which appears to be a usable file system, but where the files are created by guidance given to the layer, such as to mirror a physical file on a hard disk, or retrieve a remote file from the Internet or cloud, or the assemble some data from a remote SQL database server into a disk file that is in the form being requested, etc.? I'd like to know if it exists so I can use it. If not, I'd like some FLOSS developers to help me complete it. Thanks! Please cross-post to any other FLOSS lists you're on asking for assistance. https://github.com/RickCHodgin/InDisk Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Alternative freedom friendly solution to Raspberry Pi
Interesting, Chris. What is it called? And when will it be available? I'd like to read more on the specs. I'm working with the Freedombox project and such an x86-based non-Intel (free/libre software stack) product would be desirable. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: ch...@thinkpenguin.com Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 03:59 AM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: [Trisquel-users] Alternative freedom friendly solution to Raspberry Pi The one thing I don't like about the Raspberry Pi project is the use of a graphics chip dependent on non-free software. I think there may be a new better alternative from VIA though. I sent an email to graphics chipset vendor in use in the device and got word back from an engineer (David Berol from wolfsonmicro) that the WM8750 chipset is not dependent on proprietary drivers or firmware. I did have to clarify this though as he thought I was talking about the price :). I've also gotten word through an intermediary who investigated the BIOS situation on the VIA board. This motherboard will be released unlocked. Right now VIA is releasing it with Android although there is nothing preventing this community (free software users) from porting a GNU/Linux distribution to it. It is based on ARM and I think it's primary usefulness would be streaming HD content as the cost is low ($50 USD) and has built-in hardware HD decoding. It has severely limited built-in ram (512MB) although more than sufficient for a purpose built device (HTPC). It also has 2GB internal storage and microsd expansion slot. It also has limited CPU (just 800Mhz).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running kernel 3.4
Great information! Thanks. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 05/29/2012 01:43 PM, tralfamadorianora...@member.fsf.org wrote: You can also build the kernel from source. Here's my usual procedure. If you don't have the build requirements: sudo apt-get install build-essential ncurses5 wget http://www.linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/LATEST-3.4.N/linux-libre-3.4-gnu.tar.xz tar xf linux-libre-3.4-gnu.tar.xz cd linux-3.4 make menuconfig (to edit and save the kernel .config file) INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 make deb-pkg (this can take a few hours) cd .. sudo dpkg -i linux-*.deb
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running kernel 3.4
Can this step be sped up using the -j# option, such as this for a 6-core CPU? INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 make -j6 deb-pkg (this can take a few hours) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 05/29/2012 07:13 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: Great information! Thanks. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 05/29/2012 01:43 PM, tralfamadorianora...@member.fsf.org wrote: You can also build the kernel from source. Here's my usual procedure. If you don't have the build requirements: sudo apt-get install build-essential ncurses5 wget http://www.linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/LATEST-3.4.N/linux-libre-3.4-gnu.tar.xz tar xf linux-libre-3.4-gnu.tar.xz cd linux-3.4 make menuconfig (to edit and save the kernel .config file) INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 make deb-pkg (this can take a few hours) cd .. sudo dpkg -i linux-*.deb
[Trisquel-users] Running kernel 3.4
Has anybody tried running 3.4 in Trisquel 5.0? Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running kernel 3.4
I appreciate Trisquel users very much. Thank you. I'm going to try this today on my desktop. If I'm able to get it working I'll upgrade my laptop from Ubuntu 12.04 to Trisquel 5.0. My laptop is the only remaining piece of hardware I'm using without Trisquel (as it's not supported by free drivers and is essentially unworkable outside of Ubuntu, save the recent releases by AMD/ATI to the 3.4 kernel). Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin On 05/28/2012 08:52 AM, Morne Alberts wrote: On 28/05/2012 14:11, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: Has anybody tried running 3.4 in Trisquel 5.0? Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin I ran 3.2 in Trisquel 5.0 with no problem. With Trisquel 5.5 I ran 3.3.6 and now I'm running 3.4.0 and I'm not having any problems. If it is important to you, make sure that the kernel version has AppArmor patches. When I used 3.3.0, shortly after it entered that repository, it did not have AppArmor patches. There might be other things to look out for but I don't have very good knowledge of kernel things.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running kernel 3.4
I haven't installed it yet. That computer isn't on the internet and I was missing ncurses-devel. So I built it on an Ubuntu machine but my default Trisquel partition wax only 10 gb and I was out of space. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: Morne Alberts mo...@malberts.net Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 03:51 PM To: trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info CC: Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Running kernel 3.4 I'm going to try this today on my desktop. If I'm able to get it working I'll upgrade my laptop from Ubuntu 12.04 to Trisquel 5.0. My It appears that there might be some issues with 3.4. I haven't been running linux-image-3.4.0-gnu long enough (only since you made the first post). I am currently having AppArmor issues that, amongst other things, prevents MySQL from working. So you might want to wait a while before you try. -- Morne Alberts
