Re: [TV orNotTV] (Mostly NoTV) Going back to Cali
Even though it is a chain, my friends who like fish tacos swear by the
Wahoos chain.
Old Town is OK, but it is a misnomer, as it is a recreation, not the
genuine article. Coronado is tough to hit on the way out of town, unless
you're leaving town on a boat. Balboa Park is very tranquil to me... the
little food stand next to the Old Globe Theater sells Guinness and has free
wifi... great place to sit and write.
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013, David Bruggeman wrote:
Kevin,
Thanks for the recommendations. Today was beaches, mostly from Mission
Bay north to La Jolla Shores. I managed to drive Sunset Cliffs near
sunset. I'll check out Cabrillo and Balboa Park tomorrow, hitting Coronado
on the way out of town on Wednesday. If I have time, I'll check out Old
Town as well.
Any recommendations for fish tacos? Lucha Libre sounds interesting on
general atmosphere alone, but I suspect the fish taco isn't their strongest
dish.
Best,
David
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While in San Diego, don't miss the Hotel del Coronado or Balboa Park.
Ocean Beach is more for surfers (and I have it on authority the tamale
stand also sells drugs) but it has a groovy vinyl record shop called The
Cow that I swear was the basis for High Fidelity. I prefer the beaches
and bars of Pacific Beach, and a walk around Mission Bay is nice. Kayaking
on the bay is the best!
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.comwrote:
I will be in San Diego by this time next week, and then back to Los
Angeles to see Conan on the 23rd. I definitely want to see Catalina, and
the Flyer is still operating (though maybe not as fast as it used to be).
Unlike a couple of years ago, Craig is off the week I'll be around. But I
saw him and Kimmel last time, so I'll manage. I was *this* close to
getting in via standby for Conan back then, so I'm pretty happy to have a
regular ticket.
Shall I pour out some syrup in front of a Roscoe's in tribute?
David
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I'm trying to make my way back to California as well, but likely won't
make it this week. Catalina is worth the trip if you've never been, though
it will consume an entire day of your schedule unless you can afford to
charter a helicopter to get you to and fro (as I understand it, the
Catalina Flyer, aka the only fast boat that services the island, no longer
runs). If your travels take you as south as San Diego, i can make several
recommendations. Craig's show is fun to see, but be aware they'll most
likely tape two episodes with you in the audience, not one, but they don't
really stop tape for any reason so it flies by -- commercial breaks only
last 10 seconds.
I miss Roscoe's.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:15 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.comwrote:
Apologies to Mr. Cool J
I'm headed back to Southern California for a vacation this Friday for a
week's vacation. I'll be splitting time between various parts of Los
Angeles and points South (still not sure if I'll swing a day trip to
Catalina or not).
Arsenio and Craig are off the week of the 21st, but I managed tickets for
both Conan and Leno on the 23rd. Will likely cancel on Leno in favor of
the Irish Craig, even though Harrison Ford is scheduled to sit with Big Jaw.
Kevin and I managed to visit Roscoe's when I was in L.A. a couple of years
ago, and I thought I'd see if any list folk would be interested in meeting
while I'm out there.
David
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[TV orNotTV] Tonight Show juxtaposition
I'm down to one box full of videotapes to digitize. Today's VHS to digital conversion included the 25th Anniversary of The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson followed by the 10th Anniversary of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and boy did it represent how times have changed. Carson's retrospective was full of remember when? memories, while Leno's special had a sense of see what you missed? to it. Aside from Leno asking Hugh Grant what the hell he was thinking, I don't believe his incarnation of The Tonight Show has produced any other iconic moments (maybe the Dancing Itos?). The pace of the two specials was different, too. Carson spent time not just on musicians who visited the show, but broke it down by genre. Carson showed clips of comics whose careers he essentially launched. It just goes on and on, and Leno had nothing that came close. Leno's anniversary show was full of cameo appearances by big names who walked onto the stage, said one word, then left... no substance... nothing memorable. Carson just sat at his desk with Ed at his side. Leno used the El Capitan Theater filled to capacity while Carson used his beat up old set in Studio One in Burbank. What the hell happened to late night talk shows? In my head I have a long form article to write about the devaluing of the timeslot and people working hard to make it less watchable to people. I genuinely have no episode of Carson's show that followed the same format, and that came as a shock to me because we take it for granted that Carson set the rules by which everybody played. Aside from the theme, monologue, and Johnny swinging a golf club to cue the commercial, viewers got something different nearly every night. Sometimes it was a prepared comedy sketch, or it might be a musical act, or a chat with Ed at the desk, or stump the band. No formula. Yet on Leno's show, every Monday night since it debuted, Jay reads humorous headlines... every Monday night for 20 f-cking years! How does Leno not bash his head in with a hammer to avoid the monotony? No wonder he has no iconic moments. Done venting now. For now. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
I recommend Poodle Springs, with James Caan as Marlowe, written by the
late Robert B Parker.
Also, if you can find the film Marlowe starring James Garner in the title
role and costarring a very sexy young Rita Moreno, it is a hidden gem of
period cinema.
On Monday, October 21, 2013, Bob in Jersey wrote:
Andrew, cocreator of *Castle*, teams with that show's writer (also his
wife) Terri Edda Miller and Oscar-winning director Michael DeLuca to bring
back legendary gumshoe Philip, not seen in the US since an HBO version in
the 1980s...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/castle-creator-michael-de-luca-649479
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Tonight Show juxtaposition
Carson's retrospective was full of remember when? memories, while Leno's special had a sense of see what you missed? to it. I remember Leno and Letterman doing anniversary shows (fifth, probably) at about the same time. Dave's clips were actual moments, often bits of conversation with guests, while Jay's were just a bunch of shots of starts in the guest chair. What the hell happened to late night talk shows? Probably the biggest thing is that they went from being about conversation to being promotional vehicles for guests. Of course, the LLS shows the limitations of the conversation format, since it requires guests who have something to say and a host who's willing to engage. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:54:49 AM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: I recommend Poodle Springs, with James Caan as Marlowe, written by the late Robert B Parker. Also, if you can find the film Marlowe starring James Garner in the title role and costarring a very sexy young Rita Moreno, it is a hidden gem of period cinema. This is not the first time ABC has tackled Philip Marlowe. In addition to the 1950s series with Philip Carey (which I've never seen), they did a pilot for a Marlowe series in 2007, an updated version with Jason O'Mara in the lead (a year before the network put him in Life on Mars): http://www.zap2it.com/tv/zap-pilots-jasonomaraplayingphilipmarlowe,0,4366253.story And I completely agree about the James Garner movie from 1969. A wonderful movie. -Tim -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight Show juxtaposition
IIRC, wasn't there an earthquake in California the day of Mr Carson's 25th?
I vaguely remember the monologue, but even as a youngster, I thought that
was one of his better ones.
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013, Kevin M. wrote:
I'm down to one box full of videotapes to digitize. Today's VHS to digital
conversion included the 25th Anniversary of The Tonight Show starring
Johnny Carson followed by the 10th Anniversary of The Tonight Show with
Jay Leno and boy did it represent how times have changed. Carson's
retrospective was full of remember when? memories, while Leno's special
had a sense of see what you missed? to it. Aside from Leno asking Hugh
Grant what the hell he was thinking, I don't believe his incarnation of The
Tonight Show has produced any other iconic moments (maybe the Dancing
Itos?). The pace of the two specials was different, too. Carson spent time
not just on musicians who visited the show, but broke it down by genre.
Carson showed clips of comics whose careers he essentially launched. It
just goes on and on, and Leno had nothing that came close. Leno's
anniversary show was full of cameo appearances by big names who walked onto
the stage, said one word, then left... no substance... nothing memorable.
Carson just sat at his desk with Ed at his side. Leno used the El Capitan
Theater filled to capacity while Carson used his beat up old set in Studio
One in Burbank.
What the hell happened to late night talk shows? In my head I have a long
form article to write about the devaluing of the timeslot and
people working hard to make it less watchable to people. I genuinely have
no episode of Carson's show that followed the same format, and that came as
a shock to me because we take it for granted that Carson set the rules by
which everybody played. Aside from the theme, monologue, and Johnny
swinging a golf club to cue the commercial, viewers got something different
nearly every night. Sometimes it was a prepared comedy sketch, or it might
be a musical act, or a chat with Ed at the desk, or stump the band. No
formula. Yet on Leno's show, every Monday night since it debuted, Jay reads
humorous headlines... every Monday night for 20 f-cking years! How does
Leno not bash his head in with a hammer to avoid the monotony? No wonder he
has no iconic moments.
Done venting now. For now.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
I must admit that I'd get much more excited about a period Marlowe set in LA of the thirties or forties. Yes it'd be much more expensive, but it could look gorgeous. 13 episodes rather than 24 as a limited series. I guess only premium cable tries period dramas properly these days. Indeed go nuts - shoot it in black and white! What was the last TV series shot that way? There's the odd episode here and there - and I'm thinking back to Moonlighting. Or how about putting a black and white version on your website or in a Saturday re-run? Adam (who'd clearly never make it as a television exec) PS Off-topic, but I saw the upcoming film Nebraska in the London Film Festival recently. It looks gorgeous in black and white. However director Alexander Payne admitted that he was forced to make it on a lower budget because of that creative decision. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Diner bwayst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:54:49 AM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: I recommend Poodle Springs, with James Caan as Marlowe, written by the late Robert B Parker. Also, if you can find the film Marlowe starring James Garner in the title role and costarring a very sexy young Rita Moreno, it is a hidden gem of period cinema. This is not the first time ABC has tackled Philip Marlowe. In addition to the 1950s series with Philip Carey (which I've never seen), they did a pilot for a Marlowe series in 2007, an updated version with Jason O'Mara in the lead (a year before the network put him in Life on Mars): http://www.zap2it.com/tv/zap-pilots-jasonomaraplayingphilipmarlowe,0,4366253.story And I completely agree about the James Garner movie from 1969. A wonderful movie. -Tim -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] (Mostly NoTV) Going back to Cali
On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:55 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: The show doesn't premiere until next week, probably to stay out of the way of the new Comedy Central show, @midnight (Jim may have something to say about that taping experience). Ha! Yes, I went to the taping of the @Midnight premiere on Monday. Really, not much to say about it. Although the intent was obviously to do it live-to-tape, the taping for the half-hour show ended up taking an hour and 25 minutes as they did extended commercial breaks and did pickups and re-dos of a few things -- although for at least one bit, the original version ended up in the show as aired instead of the re-do. (At one point as he was making several attempts at reading an intro correctly, Chris Hardwick said, We were thinking about doing this show live -- can you imagine?) But it did successfully get on the air about 2 hours and 35 minutes after the taping ended, and I guess that's what really matters. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] (Mostly NoTV) Going back to Cali
Kevin, to David Bruggeman, in part: Even though it is a chain, my friends who like fish tacos swear by the Wahoos chain. And I just saw Lucha Libre's minutes of fame on Triple D... we all know how Fieri can prospectively risk your reputation. :-O B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Almost Human pushed back
Not due to production issues or any of that... Fox wanted to make sweeps noise with a Bones/Sleepy Hollow combo. Début now to air consecutive nights, Nov 17 and 18. http://www.thewrap.com/almost-human-premiere-pushed-back-two-weeks/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Its Not HBO, Its Netflix
Their boss cleared up a bunch of things at a conference attended by TheWrap... no, you shouldn't watch them on your mobile... no, they aren't going after the NFL... no, Hulu isn't a threat, but Aereo is... http://www.thewrap.com/netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-dont-want-nfl-aereo-threat/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Hurwitz game to an Arrested movie
But it would still be at Netflix, not in theaters, as a precursor to another season... apparently he hasn't approached Fox about it. And, he talks about almost casting Jeremy Piven. http://www.thewrap.com/mitch-hurwitz-arrested-development-movie-netflix-almost-cast-michael-bluth/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] D!ck Wolf blasts govt shutdown
It was a terrible couple of weeks for the country as a whole... how could people act this way? It’s a completely manufactured scenario... He isn't thrilled with binge viewing, either... not that folks ain't doing that with, f'rinstance, *Chicago Fire*, for which he appeared at an NBC press event. “What made ‘Law Order’ so valuable was the fact that you could come in and come out — people didn’t know when they came on, but if you tuned in it didn’t matter. http://www.thewrap.com/dick-wolf-blasts-congress-government-shutdown-chicago-fire-cable-tv-vs-networkhttp://www.thewrap.com/dick-wolf-blasts-congress-government-shutdown-chicago-fire-cable-tv-vs-networkhttp://www.thewrap.com/dick-wolf-blasts-congress-government-shutdown-chicago-fire-cable-tv-vs-network B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight Show juxtaposition
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, wasn't there an earthquake in California the day of Mr Carson's 25th? I vaguely remember the monologue, but even as a youngster, I thought that was one of his better ones. Yep, the Whittier quake, and Carson handled it great. ... The safest place to be in the event of an aftershock is under a desk. This is MY desk. You all didn't think to bring a desk with you to the show tonight... -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Fox Delays 'Almost Human' 2 Weeks for 'Bones'
The J.J. Abrams SF thriller was to premiere on Nov. 4, but Fox has decided to give Bones two more weeks on Mondays at 8 before it moves to Fridays at 8 after MasterChef Junior ends--Human will have a two-night premiere on Sun. Nov. 17 (I assume at 9 pre-empting the Seth MacFarlane shows) and Mon. Nov. 18: http://www.thewrap.com/almost-human-premiere-pushed-back-two-weeks/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] President Nominated (Sorta) for YouTube Award
Epic Rap Battles of History's Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romneyhttp://youtu.be/dX_1B0w7Hzc, starring two actors representing the candidates spitting out rhymes, is nominated for the first YouTube Music Awards as the Video of the Year, against more expected nominees like Miley, Selena, Demi, Gaga and the Bieb--YT will stream the awards show on Nov. 3, with announced live performances by Eminem, Gaga and the Arcade Fire, among others, and Jason Schwartzman and Reggie Watts as your hosts: http://www.thewrap.com/you-tube-music-award-nominees-lady-gaga-miley-cyrus-justin-bieber -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Parks Rec Feeling Community
And besides, the NFL won't take Thursday night football off of NFLN and put it on NBC--but does anyone think that if they're considering two games on Thursday nights, that NBC might go after the second game? Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:14 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: n Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Ron Casalotti roncasalo...@gmail.comwrote: Following the love/hate relationship NBC apparently has with itself, Parks Recreation will be getting the Community treatment of being pulled from the calendar, only to run double plays late. I can't wait to watch it's Halloween episode at Christmas ;) This is frustrating. I think (thought I am not sure) that this has more to do with the cancellation of Welcome To The Family than it does with Parks. When they cancelled Family they said they would fill in with SNL specials and The Voice and then Holiday filler until Community came back early in 2014. Most if not all of this replacement stuff is an hour, and I see why it makes sense to pair Parks with Community. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
And AMC repeats some episodes of The Walking Dead in black-and-white (as muted as the show's color palette already is). Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote: I must admit that I'd get much more excited about a period Marlowe set in LA of the thirties or forties. Yes it'd be much more expensive, but it could look gorgeous. 13 episodes rather than 24 as a limited series. I guess only premium cable tries period dramas properly these days. Indeed go nuts - shoot it in black and white! What was the last TV series shot that way? There's the odd episode here and there - and I'm thinking back to Moonlighting. Or how about putting a black and white version on your website or in a Saturday re-run? Adam (who'd clearly never make it as a television exec) PS Off-topic, but I saw the upcoming film Nebraska in the London Film Festival recently. It looks gorgeous in black and white. However director Alexander Payne admitted that he was forced to make it on a lower budget because of that creative decision. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Diner bwayst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:54:49 AM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: I recommend Poodle Springs, with James Caan as Marlowe, written by the late Robert B Parker. Also, if you can find the film Marlowe starring James Garner in the title role and costarring a very sexy young Rita Moreno, it is a hidden gem of period cinema. This is not the first time ABC has tackled Philip Marlowe. In addition to the 1950s series with Philip Carey (which I've never seen), they did a pilot for a Marlowe series in 2007, an updated version with Jason O'Mara in the lead (a year before the network put him in Life on Mars): http://www.zap2it.com/tv/zap-pilots-jasonomaraplayingphilipmarlowe,0,4366253.story And I completely agree about the James Garner movie from 1969. A wonderful movie. -Tim -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Its Not HBO, Its Netflix
But still 4M behind Encore, which has the advantage of being on many cable systems' top level digital tiers. Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Netflix passes HBO in total US subscribers. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-netflix-reports-third-quarter-earnings-20131021,0,7582768.story#axzz2iPvP9UkJ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tonight Show juxtaposition
Of course,even in Carson's day it was about the plug (Bob Hope only came on when he had a special to plug, although he would tape his opening monologue with Carson's audience after Tonight was finished--for the most part, his specials were otherwise Charley Douglass' Laff Box--he didn't even use NBC's Mother MacKenzie!), but I don't recall Carson ending a spot with a guest with [name of movie] opens in theaters Friday or [name of series] is on [network] [night and time]--in fact, when he mentioned a series in the guest's intro, if it wasn't on NBC he would always say on another network and then say something to Ed about which one of the other two it was. Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:20 AM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote: Carson's retrospective was full of remember when? memories, while Leno's special had a sense of see what you missed? to it. I remember Leno and Letterman doing anniversary shows (fifth, probably) at about the same time. Dave's clips were actual moments, often bits of conversation with guests, while Jay's were just a bunch of shots of starts in the guest chair. What the hell happened to late night talk shows? Probably the biggest thing is that they went from being about conversation to being promotional vehicles for guests. Of course, the LLS shows the limitations of the conversation format, since it requires guests who have something to say and a host who's willing to engage. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34:32 AM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote: I must admit that I'd get much more excited about a period Marlowe set in LA of the thirties or forties. Yes it'd be much more expensive, but it could look gorgeous. 13 episodes rather than 24 as a limited series. I guess only premium cable tries period dramas properly these days. Indeed go nuts - shoot it in black and white! What was the last TV series shot that way? There's the odd episode here and there - and I'm thinking back to Moonlighting. Or how about putting a black and white version on your website or in a Saturday re-run? BBC Radio did a series two years ago called Classic Chandler, adapatations of the eight Marlowe novels (including Poodle Springs) with Toby Stephens as Marlowe. I listened to them, and while the shows were well done... man, Chandler had some awfully weird, convoluted plots. And hearing them one after another, those plotlines seemed awfully repetitive. I think people enjoy the novels more for the language, the Marlowe character, and the period atmosphere than for the stories. So the writers of the new series really have their work cut out for them. What I'd really love to see a version of The Lady in the Lake that gets it right. Ditto for The Long Goodbye, although people will be debating that movie forever - I like it for what it is, but what it is isn't Chandler. But to get the original stories right, yes, you'd have to set it back in the forties. Paging Ellery Queen! -Tim -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Parks Rec Feeling Community
It would surprise me greatly if (and we've dissected this in a separate thread) a second Thursday game package was open to an OTA. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: And besides, the NFL won't take Thursday night football off of NFLN and put it on NBC--but does anyone think that if they're considering two games on Thursday nights, that NBC might go after the second game? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Diner bwayst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34:32 AM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote: I must admit that I'd get much more excited about a period Marlowe set in LA of the thirties or forties. Yes it'd be much more expensive, but it could look gorgeous. 13 episodes rather than 24 as a limited series. I guess only premium cable tries period dramas properly these days. Indeed go nuts - shoot it in black and white! What was the last TV series shot that way? There's the odd episode here and there - and I'm thinking back to Moonlighting. Or how about putting a black and white version on your website or in a Saturday re-run? BBC Radio did a series two years ago called Classic Chandler, adapatations of the eight Marlowe novels (including Poodle Springs) with Toby Stephens as Marlowe. I listened to them, and while the shows were well done... man, Chandler had some awfully weird, convoluted plots. And hearing them one after another, those plotlines seemed awfully repetitive. I think people enjoy the novels more for the language, the Marlowe character, and the period atmosphere than for the stories. So the writers of the new series really have their work cut out for them. What I'd really love to see a version of The Lady in the Lake that gets it right. Ditto for The Long Goodbye, although people will be debating that movie forever - I like it for what it is, but what it is isn't Chandler. But to get the original stories right, yes, you'd have to set it back in the forties. As to weird, convoluted plots, The Big Sleep had 11 murders and only 10 were solved. This oversight even made it into the Bogart/Bacall movie. Since the oversight was already known, I guess it meant that the studio expected the audience to have already read the novel and expect that one murder was accidentally unsolved. The oversight was brought to Chandler's attention and he just shrugged it off. He was working on another story and saw no reason to go back to a finished book. I don't see Marlowe as a good detective choice for modern times. The things he did well back in his day are less needed in our day. And he would certainly be lost on a procedural drama which is more ensemble oriented. But I also don't think a network audience would be interested in a period drama. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Jeffries And AMC repeats some episodes of The Walking Dead in black-and-white (as muted as the show's color palette already is). And on a side note, a local theatre troupe is performing Night of the Living Dead on-stage in BW. http://www.wvgazette.com/Entertainment/thegazz/201310160067 _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] Parks Rec Feeling Community
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Jeffries And besides, the NFL won't take Thursday night football off of NFLN and put it on NBC--but does anyone think that if they're considering two games on Thursday nights, that NBC might go after the second game? I can't think that NFLN would go head-to-head against a network broadcast. Perhaps NFLN could take a West Coast game, as they did with the Raiders' Sunday late-night game several weeks back. _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Parks Rec Feeling Community
On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Brad Beam wrote: I can’t think that NFLN would go head-to-head against a network broadcast. Perhaps NFLN could take a West Coast game, as they did with the Raiders’ Sunday late-night game several weeks back. However, there are only four West Coast teams, plus two in the Mountain time zone. Either those 6 teams end up on Thursday nights much more often than the other 26, or some games get played in the Eastern and Central time zones with late start times, or they have the two Thursday night games going head-to-head to some extent. On that middle option: granted, Monday Night Football kickoffs were just past 9:00 Eastern for years, but with today's longer game times, if they were going to do the second game of the doubleheader at 9:00, they'd probably want to start the first game at 5:30 or even 5:15 to avoid overlap, and that seems a bit early. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Almost Human pushed back
LAT: The 17th is an NFL doubleheader day, another reason for putting half of the premiere on a Sunday. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-fox-pushes-back-premiere-date-for-scifi-drama-almost-human-20131021,0,2967176.story#axzz2iUJSavqa B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
My initial reaction is to say It can't work, because Marlowe is so tied into that whole late 30s/40s Los Angeles ambiance, but the BBC made it work with Sherlock, so anything's possible, I suppose. (I exempt Elementary, since it just didn't work for me in the viewings I gave it). On the other hand, Castle hasn't done anything for me, so I expect this to go nowhere. The best Marlowe? Dick Powell. Garner came second, and would have been perfect with a better script, but is still not bad. Bogart is third. --Dave Sikula On Monday, October 21, 2013 2:37:52 PM UTC-7, Bob in Jersey wrote: Andrew, cocreator of *Castle*, teams with that show's writer (also his wife) Terri Edda Miller and Oscar-winning director Michael DeLuca to bring back legendary gumshoe Philip, not seen in the US since an HBO version in the 1980s... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/castle-creator-michael-de-luca-649479 B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Tonight Show juxtaposition
I don't disagree with you about Jay, but I'll just add further how debased Dave has made his brand. The great moments of his show happened either on Late Night or in the first years of his stint at CBS. I think anyone would be hard-pressed to assemble even a half-hour clip show of highlights from the last ten years of Late Show; once Dave started phoning it it. I mean, beyond the 9/17/2001 show, the return from heart surgery, and the birth of Harry, (and note how long ago all of those were) it's been pretty tough sledding in the Ed. --Dave Sikula On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:50:33 AM UTC-7, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: I'm down to one box full of videotapes to digitize. Today's VHS to digital conversion included the 25th Anniversary of The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson followed by the 10th Anniversary of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and boy did it represent how times have changed. Carson's retrospective was full of remember when? memories, while Leno's special had a sense of see what you missed? to it. Aside from Leno asking Hugh Grant what the hell he was thinking, I don't believe his incarnation of The Tonight Show has produced any other iconic moments (maybe the Dancing Itos?). The pace of the two specials was different, too. Carson spent time not just on musicians who visited the show, but broke it down by genre. Carson showed clips of comics whose careers he essentially launched. It just goes on and on, and Leno had nothing that came close. Leno's anniversary show was full of cameo appearances by big names who walked onto the stage, said one word, then left... no substance... nothing memorable. Carson just sat at his desk with Ed at his side. Leno used the El Capitan Theater filled to capacity while Carson used his beat up old set in Studio One in Burbank. What the hell happened to late night talk shows? In my head I have a long form article to write about the devaluing of the timeslot and people working hard to make it less watchable to people. I genuinely have no episode of Carson's show that followed the same format, and that came as a shock to me because we take it for granted that Carson set the rules by which everybody played. Aside from the theme, monologue, and Johnny swinging a golf club to cue the commercial, viewers got something different nearly every night. Sometimes it was a prepared comedy sketch, or it might be a musical act, or a chat with Ed at the desk, or stump the band. No formula. Yet on Leno's show, every Monday night since it debuted, Jay reads humorous headlines... every Monday night for 20 f-cking years! How does Leno not bash his head in with a hammer to avoid the monotony? No wonder he has no iconic moments. Done venting now. For now. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] So long, Noel Harrison
Skied in two winter Olympics... performed on stage in musicals made famous by dad Rex... had a top-10 hit in England... co-starred in *Girl from U.N.C.L.E.* with Stefanie Powers... didn't he host a TV show in between? In Britain's Devon region; 79. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-singer-actor-noel-harrison-dead-20131022,0,4049863.story#axzz2iU1On2JJ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Lucy to be loved again this Christmas
CBS on Dec 20th will show a newly-colourized combo of two of *I Love Lucy*'s most-sought episodes, the Christmas segment and Lucy's Italian Movie, where she famously spills in a tub of grapes... http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/10/little-seen-i-love-lucy-christmas-episode-coming-back-to-cbs---in-color.html B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Phil Rosenthal, Henry Winkler to team on comedy
The *Raymond* creator and iconic actor's ABC project will also involve Winkler's son and son-in-law, and possibly also his wife... or someone playing her... http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/family-comedy-from-phil-rosenthal-max-winkler-rob-reinis-to-star-henry-winkler-gets-abc-pilot-production-commitment/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: One Marlowe to revive another at ABC
I remember the HBO version. It starred Powers Boothe as Marlowe and was, I thought, very well done. On Monday, October 21, 2013 2:37:52 PM UTC-7, Bob in Jersey wrote: Andrew, cocreator of *Castle*, teams with that show's writer (also his wife) Terri Edda Miller and Oscar-winning director Michael DeLuca to bring back legendary gumshoe Philip, not seen in the US since an HBO version in the 1980s... -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight Show juxtaposition
Sorry, Dave: I couldn't read your email with the CBS cash registers going off in the background. On Tuesday, October 22, 2013, Dave Sikula wrote: I don't disagree with you about Jay, but I'll just add further how debased Dave has made his brand. The great moments of his show happened either on Late Night or in the first years of his stint at CBS. I think anyone would be hard-pressed to assemble even a half-hour clip show of highlights from the last ten years of Late Show; once Dave started phoning it it. I mean, beyond the 9/17/2001 show, the return from heart surgery, and the birth of Harry, (and note how long ago all of those were) it's been pretty tough sledding in the Ed. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Cee-Lo legal issues not likely to affect work
Green pleaded not guilty in LA to allegedly giving Ecstasy to a woman with whom he later had an encounter in her hotel. A rape charge was withdrawn by the DA. He likely wasn't going to be part of the next *Voice* cycle anyway, as Usher and Shakira would come back to relieve him and Xtina. Andrew Jameson, Green's production-company partner (not his manager despite the URL), told TheWrap he doesn't expect any complications, and Mark Burnett promised TMZ Green won't be fired. His next projects are a reunion album with his former hiphop group Goodie Mob, and an associated reality show on TBS (must be very funny). http://www.thewrap.com/cee-lo-greens-manager-speaks-clients-legal-troubles/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Longtime Telepictures boss leaves
Hilary Estey McLoughlin, with the Warner-owned producer since the mid-80s (!), becomes head of creative affairs at CBS Domestic Distribution, in charge of current stuff like *Judge Judy*, *Jeopardy!* and *Wheel* as well as development projects. http://www.thewrap.com/telepictures-productions-president-hilary-estey-mcloughlin-exiting-cbs-tv-distribution/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Parks Rec Feeling Community
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote: On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Brad Beam wrote: I can’t think that NFLN would go head-to-head against a network broadcast. Perhaps NFLN could take a West Coast game, as they did with the Raiders’ Sunday late-night game several weeks back. However, there are only four West Coast teams, plus two in the Mountain time zone. Either those 6 teams end up on Thursday nights much more often than the other 26, or some games get played in the Eastern and Central time zones with late start times, or they have the two Thursday night games going head-to-head to some extent. (SNIP) But, the only reason I can think of for two Thursday Night games is that the NFL is looking at those 12-16 games per week as so much valuable potential TV programming content, and thinks it is somehow wasting that profit potential by showing so many of them in the same time slots on sunday mornings/afternoons. How does it help them to move a second game to Thursday if they only wind up overlapping them again? This of course misses a big part of the appeal of the NFL, which is how compartmentalized it is on Sundays. It is very easy to follow an NFL season, and there is a natural rhythm in building up anticipation for each Sunday's games. MNF has been an enhancing exception to this, though still keeping it confined to an extended weekend. With Thursday games I am constantly losing track of who is playing and when, and it is often not clear to me emotionally whether I am watching the first game of the next week or the last game of the previous week. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tonight Show juxtaposition
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't disagree with you about Jay, but I'll just add further how debased Dave has made his brand. The great moments of his show happened either on Late Night or in the first years of his stint at CBS. I think anyone would be hard-pressed to assemble even a half-hour clip show of highlights from the last ten years of Late Show; once Dave started phoning it it. I mean, beyond the 9/17/2001 show, the return from heart surgery, and the birth of Harry, (and note how long ago all of those were) it's been pretty tough sledding in the Ed. I actually do have a running set of random Letterman highlights i've recorded over the years (includes the Simon Garfunkel episode, as well as the episode where he told the story of waking up to find a bear in his kitchen). I just digitized the post-heart attack episode which was good, though the episode where Bill Cosby guest hosted on the same VHS tape was more entertaining to me. I think on those instances when Letterman chooses not to phone it in, he is the best talk show host alive. But since he rarely seems to take an active interest in his show anymore, Ferguson gets my vote for most watchable host/show. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tonight Show juxtaposition
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't disagree with you about Jay, but I'll just add further how debased Dave has made his brand. The great moments of his show happened either on Late Night or in the first years of his stint at CBS. I think anyone would be hard-pressed to assemble even a half-hour clip show of highlights from the last ten years of Late Show; once Dave started phoning it it. I mean, beyond the 9/17/2001 show, the return from heart surgery, and the birth of Harry, (and note how long ago all of those were) it's been pretty tough sledding in the Ed. I will resist the temptation to give a full-throated defense of Dave, and just make two notes: 1. Dave (Sikula) is grossly underestimating the number of really memorable shows/interviews Dave has had. The last show with Zevon really can make a case to be one of the ten best episodes of any show of any kind; the show when he reveals the extortion attempt was riveting. The show he did the night Carson died, that one particular show he did when he called O'Reilly on his bullshit, the show he did during the 2008 election when McCain stood him up, his riffs on the Leno/Conan wars. Those are just a few, he has had a series of really interesting interviews with serious guests, and thoughtful reflections on national tragedies and the deaths of people important to him and the show. 2. I liked Carson fine, and saw many of his shows live, but I think you will find that Dave has had more memorable moments in the last 10 years than Carson had in the ten years before he retired. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] New reality chief at Fox
Simon Andreae, who headed Discovery's West Coast development and production, takes over from Mike Darnell... (Sir) David Hill will remain in his *Idol* and *X Factor* jobs for the time being... http://www.thewrap.com/fox-hires-simon-andreae-new-head-reality/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
