Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-03-02 Thread nwij1
Many thanks for all the suggestions.  So far I have only looked at the UV
Basic Developer Toolkit. This seems to do the job, but can only be used for
type 1  type 19 files. So great for editing source code, but not for
editing data records. I need to be able to do both. I will check out the
others shortly..

Cheers,
Nirvan



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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Symeon Breen
I seem to remember when we used such things that the costs in the uk where
pretty similar. Wintegrate also did some emulations that accuterm did not
and we needed those, but the other problem I have with Accuterm is that it
is very American (not being rude here)  so it has some funny (to us
Europeans) way of doing things, and always looks very old fashioned.   Each
to their own I guess






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Symeon:

That may be true these days, but wIntegrate has always been significantly
more expensive than AccuTerm, and AccuTerm always worked better with Linux
and SSH (rather than using SSL like wIntegrate does/did).  Also, AccuTerm's
licensing was significantly easier to manage (we still have clients
struggling with the old site-licensing of wIntegrate).

Nowadays, however, we use UniObjects to connect to our servers and run our
application.  Even now, I still use AccuTerm mostly, and VS2010 (which I
mostly dislike - but that's just the environment).  I've tried xLr8, BST,
Brian's but there's always something that just trips me up each and every
day with these packages.  Every time I get one of these set up and running,
something changes or something I do on a common basis is just very difficult
to accomplish.  :-(

Bill
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 Also If you want an editor integrated into your terminal emulator I 
 have always found wintegrate to be the best solution out there.

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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Brian Leach
Hi Bill

If you find something difficult to do in my editors - tell me!
How else am I going to improve them?


Brian

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On 25 Feb 2013, at 20:14, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote:

 Symeon:
 
 That may be true these days, but wIntegrate has always been significantly 
 more expensive than AccuTerm, and AccuTerm always worked better with Linux 
 and SSH (rather than using SSL like wIntegrate does/did).  Also, AccuTerm's 
 licensing was significantly easier to manage (we still have clients 
 struggling with the old site-licensing of wIntegrate).
 
 Nowadays, however, we use UniObjects to connect to our servers and run our 
 application.  Even now, I still use AccuTerm mostly, and VS2010 (which I 
 mostly dislike - but that's just the environment).  I've tried xLr8, BST, 
 Brian's but there's always something that just trips me up each and every day 
 with these packages.  Every time I get one of these set up and running, 
 something changes or something I do on a common basis is just very difficult 
 to accomplish.  :-(
 
 Bill
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 Also If you want an editor integrated into your terminal emulator I have
 always found wintegrate to be the best solution out there.
 
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/02/13 08:38, Symeon Breen wrote:
 I seem to remember when we used such things that the costs in the uk where
 pretty similar. Wintegrate also did some emulations that accuterm did not
 and we needed those, but the other problem I have with Accuterm is that it
 is very American (not being rude here)  so it has some funny (to us
 Europeans) way of doing things, and always looks very old fashioned.   Each
 to their own I guess

The thing with wIntegrate for us was emulation too - pretty much every
emulator we tried failed somewhere. With wIntegrate it was easy to get
at the definition files and re-define the client end to match the server
- the VT emulation in particular bit us hard. The current official PT
emulation is mostly my hard work :-) I doubt they've done anything to it
since they replaced the original bare-bones version with mine back in
the days of v3.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Israel, John R.
We are on a UNIX box and have SAMBA running.  This lets me use any Windows text 
editor I want.  Personally, I use SlickEdit because it has lots of features 
that I find very useful.  It does NOT have anything built in to compile and 
catalog because it does not really understand that my BP source code is 
actually code.

Just my 2 cents.


John

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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On 26/02/13 08:38, Symeon Breen wrote:
 I seem to remember when we used such things that the costs in the uk 
 where pretty similar. Wintegrate also did some emulations that 
 accuterm did not and we needed those, but the other problem I have 
 with Accuterm is that it is very American (not being rude here)  so it has 
 some funny (to us
 Europeans) way of doing things, and always looks very old fashioned.   Each
 to their own I guess

The thing with wIntegrate for us was emulation too - pretty much every emulator 
we tried failed somewhere. With wIntegrate it was easy to get at the definition 
files and re-define the client end to match the server
- the VT emulation in particular bit us hard. The current official PT emulation 
is mostly my hard work :-) I doubt they've done anything to it since they 
replaced the original bare-bones version with mine back in the days of v3.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Symeon Breen
Yeah we got them to do some bespoke emulation work for the old videotext
terminals as used by the travel viewdata network. We actually went live with
this using wintegrate 98's activeX functionality and a beta version of ie 5
and the original redback v1,  to provide a browser based travel solution
that could script into the viewdata network and scrape out booking data.
Happy days ;)



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Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

On 26/02/13 08:38, Symeon Breen wrote:
 I seem to remember when we used such things that the costs in the uk 
 where pretty similar. Wintegrate also did some emulations that 
 accuterm did not and we needed those, but the other problem I have 
 with Accuterm is that it is very American (not being rude here)  so it has
some funny (to us
 Europeans) way of doing things, and always looks very old fashioned.
Each
 to their own I guess

The thing with wIntegrate for us was emulation too - pretty much every
emulator we tried failed somewhere. With wIntegrate it was easy to get at
the definition files and re-define the client end to match the server
- the VT emulation in particular bit us hard. The current official PT
emulation is mostly my hard work :-) I doubt they've done anything to it
since they replaced the original bare-bones version with mine back in the
days of v3.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Don Robinson
Nirvan,
 
I second AccuTerm WED.
 
In addition to WED, I have created a couple of other commands using AccuTerm to 
run Windows programs.
 
One of these is a compare program that opens 2 programs (items) in Winmerge. 
Winmerge is a windows compare/merge program that is very useful for locating 
changes in text files. It allows copying of data from either item to the other 
and when I exit it, I have a prompt to update the original items. Thus it does 
both a compare and edit. Winmerge knows nothing about MV so not so useful on 
multivalues.
 
The second one opens a program (item) in windows grep which displays lines 
containing a search string.
 
I have samba setup so I can use Winmerge, windows grep or any windows editor 
directly from Windows. I use Ultraedit which has a very useful hex mode.
 
For data items containing multivalues and subvalues, AE is my choice.
 
HTH.
 
Don Robinson

 
 
From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

Probably the simplest, and easiest to use, would be AccuTerm 
http://www.asent.com.  It is a terminal emulator, probably the best in the MV 
market, that includes an editor.  You can call the editor while within the UV 
environment (that is, logged into an account) straight from the command line. 
So, instead of...

:ED SOMEFILE ItemId

...you would change the ED verb with WED, like...

:WED SOMEFILE ItemId

This solution is probably best if you spend most of your time inside the UV 
environment and aren't interested in installing software other than a telnet 
client.  In addition, it is probably the cheapest of all telnet clients you can 
use, assuming you place any value on your time.  :-)

HTH,

Bill


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*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 2/25/2013 6:04 AM
*Subject:* [U2] UV full screen editor
 Hello all,
  I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up 
before. Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I 
require it for editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems like 
most of them can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run System 
Builder, so is there anything else available? We are trying to move away from 
the native UV line editor.
  Many thanks.                       
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Wjhonson
I don't understand the key mapping at all for your Z.
I admit I haven't spent a lot of time looking at it, but that totally went over 
my head.


 

 

 

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Hi Bill

If you find something difficult to do in my editors - tell me!
How else am I going to improve them?


Brian

Sent from my iPad

On 25 Feb 2013, at 20:14, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote:

 Symeon:
 
 That may be true these days, but wIntegrate has always been significantly 
 more 
expensive than AccuTerm, and AccuTerm always worked better with Linux and SSH 
(rather than using SSL like wIntegrate does/did).  Also, AccuTerm's licensing 
was significantly easier to manage (we still have clients struggling with the 
old site-licensing of wIntegrate).
 
 Nowadays, however, we use UniObjects to connect to our servers and run our 
application.  Even now, I still use AccuTerm mostly, and VS2010 (which I mostly 
dislike - but that's just the environment).  I've tried xLr8, BST, Brian's but 
there's always something that just trips me up each and every day with these 
packages.  Every time I get one of these set up and running, something changes 
or something I do on a common basis is just very difficult to accomplish.  :-(
 
 Bill
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Bill Haskett

Symeon:

Well, there you go!  Over here, we often figure if it's cheaper we'll 
make it work.  :-)

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*Date:* 2/26/2013 12:38 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

I seem to remember when we used such things that the costs in the uk where
pretty similar. Wintegrate also did some emulations that accuterm did not
and we needed those, but the other problem I have with Accuterm is that it
is very American (not being rude here)  so it has some funny (to us
Europeans) way of doing things, and always looks very old fashioned.   Each
to their own I guess






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To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

Symeon:

That may be true these days, but wIntegrate has always been significantly
more expensive than AccuTerm, and AccuTerm always worked better with Linux
and SSH (rather than using SSL like wIntegrate does/did).  Also, AccuTerm's
licensing was significantly easier to manage (we still have clients
struggling with the old site-licensing of wIntegrate).

Nowadays, however, we use UniObjects to connect to our servers and run our
application.  Even now, I still use AccuTerm mostly, and VS2010 (which I
mostly dislike - but that's just the environment).  I've tried xLr8, BST,
Brian's but there's always something that just trips me up each and every
day with these packages.  Every time I get one of these set up and running,
something changes or something I do on a common basis is just very difficult
to accomplish.  :-(

Bill
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Also If you want an editor integrated into your terminal emulator I
have always found wintegrate to be the best solution out there.

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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-26 Thread Brian Leach
'k then I need to explain it better :)

Back to the docs.

Brian

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I don't understand the key mapping at all for your Z.
I admit I haven't spent a lot of time looking at it, but that totally went
over my head.


 

 

 

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Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2013 12:50 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor


Hi Bill

If you find something difficult to do in my editors - tell me!
How else am I going to improve them?


Brian

Sent from my iPad

On 25 Feb 2013, at 20:14, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote:

 Symeon:
 
 That may be true these days, but wIntegrate has always been 
 significantly more
expensive than AccuTerm, and AccuTerm always worked better with Linux and
SSH (rather than using SSL like wIntegrate does/did).  Also, AccuTerm's
licensing was significantly easier to manage (we still have clients
struggling with the old site-licensing of wIntegrate).
 
 Nowadays, however, we use UniObjects to connect to our servers and run 
 our
application.  Even now, I still use AccuTerm mostly, and VS2010 (which I
mostly dislike - but that's just the environment).  I've tried xLr8, BST,
Brian's but there's always something that just trips me up each and every
day with these packages.  Every time I get one of these set up and running,
something changes or something I do on a common basis is just very difficult
to accomplish.  :-(
 
 Bill
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Horacio Pellegrino
We use EditPlus, works great for programs in Windows and Linux.



On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Nirvan Wijesekera 
nirvanwijesek...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hello all,

 I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up
 before. Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I
 require it for editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems
 like most of them can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run
 System Builder, so is there anything else available? We are trying to move
 away from the native UV line editor.

 Many thanks.
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Brian Leach
Two options from my website (both free):

Z is a terminal based full screen editor with syntax highlighting for
UniVerse Basic.

mvDeveloper 2 is a Windows based editor with syntax highlighting for
UniVerse Basic, PROC, and loads of other stuff.

And I'm sure Doug C will chime in with his (U2 Logic's) editor.

www.brianleach.co.uk

Brian

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV full screen editor


Hello all,
 
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up
before. Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I
require it for editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems
like most of them can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run
System Builder, so is there anything else available? We are trying to move
away from the native UV line editor.
 
Many thanks.  
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Tom Whitmore
Hi,
I am aware of several windows editors available that work with U2.

MVDeveloper (Brian Leach)
BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit, from Rocket)
XLr8Editor (Doug A)


I have not used XLr8Editor.  MVDeveloper and BDT have their strengths and 
weaknesses, both are free so you can try them out and chose which works for 
you.  I have not figured out how to edit data with BDT, only programs and 
dictionaries.

Tom
RATEX Business Solutions

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV full screen editor


Hello all,
 
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up before. 
Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I require it for 
editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems like most of them 
can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run System Builder, so is 
there anything else available? We are trying to move away from the native UV 
line editor.
 
Many thanks.  
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Doug Averch
Hello All:

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means you can get source code control, syntax checking as you type, code
completion, and much much more.  XLr8Editor and the rest of U2logic tools
for Universe get updated about every 3 to 4 weeks with new enhancements and
bug fixes which the free editors cannot afford to do.

We are just about finished adding the ability to add documentation and
examples to code completion.  XLr8Editor is $79.00 per year per workstation.

We have free trials.  Check out our download instructions at
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Regards,
Doug
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Symeon Breen
On the UV clients CD in the eclipse based tools there is the Basic
Development toolkit (BDT)  this will probably give you most of what you
want.



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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV full screen editor


Hello all,
 
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up
before. Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I
require it for editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems
like most of them can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run
System Builder, so is there anything else available? We are trying to move
away from the native UV line editor.
 
Many thanks.  
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Bill Haskett
Probably the simplest, and easiest to use, would be AccuTerm 
http://www.asent.com.  It is a terminal emulator, probably the best in 
the MV market, that includes an editor.  You can call the editor while 
within the UV environment (that is, logged into an account) straight 
from the command line. So, instead of...


:ED SOMEFILE ItemId

...you would change the ED verb with WED, like...

:WED SOMEFILE ItemId

This solution is probably best if you spend most of your time inside the 
UV environment and aren't interested in installing software other than a 
telnet client.  In addition, it is probably the cheapest of all telnet 
clients you can use, assuming you place any value on your time.  :-)


HTH,

Bill


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Hello all,
  
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up before. Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I require it for editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems like most of them can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run System Builder, so is there anything else available? We are trying to move away from the native UV line editor.
  
Many thanks. 		 	   		

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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread David A. Green
Is there a way to have BDT use a TCL command besides BASIC/CATALOG to do my
compile and cataloging?

David A. Green
(480) 813-1725
DAG Consulting

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
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Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

On the UV clients CD in the eclipse based tools there is the Basic
Development toolkit (BDT)  this will probably give you most of what you
want.



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Sent: 25 February 2013 14:04
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Subject: [U2] UV full screen editor


Hello all,
 
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up
before. Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I
require it for editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems
like most of them can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run
System Builder, so is there anything else available? We are trying to move
away from the native UV line editor.
 
Many thanks.  
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Daniel McGrath
Please don't use the UV Clients anymore - unless you are on a really old 
version of UV. 

You can download the U2 DBTools package which contains a much better version of 
BDT (among other useful tools like XAdmin and RESTful Web Services) from here: 
http://u2.rocketsoftware.com/resources/downloads 



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Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

On the UV clients CD in the eclipse based tools there is the Basic Development 
toolkit (BDT)  this will probably give you most of what you want.



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Subject: [U2] UV full screen editor


Hello all,
 
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up before. 
Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I require it for 
editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems like most of them 
can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run System Builder, so is 
there anything else available? We are trying to move away from the native UV 
line editor.
 
Many thanks.  
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Daniel McGrath
Unfortunately not baked in to BDT yet.

You can always override the BASIC/CATALOG keywords (after copying them to 
something like stdBASIC, stdCATALOG) with stub programs featuring few lines of 
logic to call your tool chain unless called in certain situations which should 
redirect to the std* versions. (like being called from your tool chain or 
directly from ECL) 


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David A. Green
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:24 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

Is there a way to have BDT use a TCL command besides BASIC/CATALOG to do my 
compile and cataloging?

David A. Green
(480) 813-1725
DAG Consulting

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:03 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

On the UV clients CD in the eclipse based tools there is the Basic Development 
toolkit (BDT)  this will probably give you most of what you want.



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Nirvan Wijesekera
Sent: 25 February 2013 14:04
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV full screen editor


Hello all,
 
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this topic has been brought up before. 
Can anyone recommend a decent full-screen editor for Universe? I require it for 
editing source code as well as modifying data files. Seems like most of them 
can do one or the other, but not both. We do not run System Builder, so is 
there anything else available? We are trying to move away from the native UV 
line editor.
 
Many thanks.  
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/02/13 17:48, Daniel McGrath wrote:
 Unfortunately not baked in to BDT yet.
 
 You can always override the BASIC/CATALOG keywords (after copying them to 
 something like stdBASIC, stdCATALOG) with stub programs featuring few lines 
 of logic to call your tool chain unless called in certain situations which 
 should redirect to the std* versions. (like being called from your tool chain 
 or directly from ECL) 
 
For those who do change standard keywords, there is a command that will
restore them all (UPDATE.ACCOUNT ?). They're all, I think, also in the
UV account in the NEWACC file.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
I'll second the vote for the wED utility in AccuTerm. In the recent
v7.1 a Lot of welcome enhancements were made which take this Far
beyond similar editors - and free with the emulator aint a bad deal
either.

I'm also quite fond of mvToolbox (http://www.mvtoolbox.com/) It's a
fabulous bit of software, and it's only fault is that it does too
much. It has too many features, too much documentation, and the author
is too eager to update the product. I'm serious. This is proof of the
concept that software with too many features can confuse an industry
into lack of adoption. But this software does more than any other in
its class in this industry, and if you like a real does everything
kind of product then you should look at this. The website is
unmaintained, marketing is almost non-existent, and the author is too
eager to give the software away just to give it exposure. I swear,
it's the weirdest story of any product around. But the bottom line is
that this is great software that responds to the current inquiry.

HTH
T

 From: Bill Haskett 
 Probably the simplest, and easiest to use, would be AccuTerm
 http://www.asent.com.

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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Symeon Breen
Also If you want an editor integrated into your terminal emulator I have
always found wintegrate to be the best solution out there.

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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Bill Haskett

Symeon:

That may be true these days, but wIntegrate has always been 
significantly more expensive than AccuTerm, and AccuTerm always worked 
better with Linux and SSH (rather than using SSL like wIntegrate 
does/did).  Also, AccuTerm's licensing was significantly easier to 
manage (we still have clients struggling with the old site-licensing of 
wIntegrate).


Nowadays, however, we use UniObjects to connect to our servers and run 
our application.  Even now, I still use AccuTerm mostly, and VS2010 
(which I mostly dislike - but that's just the environment).  I've tried 
xLr8, BST, Brian's but there's always something that just trips me up 
each and every day with these packages.  Every time I get one of these 
set up and running, something changes or something I do on a common 
basis is just very difficult to accomplish.  :-(


Bill
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Also If you want an editor integrated into your terminal emulator I have
always found wintegrate to be the best solution out there.

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Re: [U2] UV full screen editor

2013-02-25 Thread Ken Ford
I have used Emacs for UV development, including source coding and file editing 
for many years.  There is a mode for UVBasic (unibasic-mode) and I have written 
a number of emacs-lisp based modes for editing m/v files.  These are all 
available on the PickWiki site.

Regards,
Ken Ford 
Universe Software Developer 
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e ken.f...@firstmac.com.au | w firstmac.com.au 


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