Re: [ubuntu-art] Solutions
For those of you who might not know my name is Cory. I'm former lead/creator of Ubuntu Studio. I've also coordinated various Ubuntu art projects through this list. That said, some steps were taken a while ago to let people know that this list was for *community* art efforts and had little impact on the published looked of Ubuntu. Do most folks on the list know this? Should more be done? Maybe change the list name to: ubuntu-community-art? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Leaving for a bit.
Hi guys. Some might have noticed my activity has been minimal over the last 6 months. I have had many life-issues that continue to this day. Im not dying or anything just going through alot of crap. I have to focus more on my family and other issues. So I will be taking some time away from Ubuntu and that means Breathe. I hope to push a new release for Lucid but really need some time away if I hope to make it back for Lucid+1. Contact me if there's any questions. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] GIMP for Painters (instructions inside)
gimp-for-painters (http://sourceforge.jp/projects/gimp-painter/releases) is a patch that adds two more tools that help in making images that feel more like using a paint brush. Here's another link about it. (http://www.gimpstuff.org/content/show.php/2nd+test+with+gimp+painter?content=101868) It's actually pretty easy to apply the .diff to the ubuntu package. In a terminal and with your source repos open it should be something like: Code: sudo apt-get install cdbs -y sudo apt-get build-dep gimp -y apt-get source gimp wget http://iij.dl.sourceforge.jp/gimp-painter/41325/gimp-painter--20090715.diff -P ~/gimp-2.6.7/debian/patches cd gimp-2.6.7 debuild binary cd sudo dpkg -i gimp-data_2.6.7-1ubuntu1_all.deb gimp_2.6.7-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (you only need the resulting gimp and gimp-data packages) The above command should then give 2 new tools in your toolbox. (will look like another paintbrush and ink tool) This is all best used with a pressure tablet. These instructions also work for Karmic and Lucid but can be applied to earlier versions like gimp-2.6.6 and such. Also remember to pin gimp and gimp-data in Synaptic if you don't want an update to overwrite your version. I would imagine that the GIMP devs are looking at a sane way to integrate this. Anyone with solid info please post. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Ubuntu Studio Lucid variant.
Ive posted before but I wanna throw it out there again. Studio is looking for a icon refresh for Lucid so I figured on depending on Breathe as a base. Here's a page to use as a start. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/UbuntuStudio I'm not looking for a full set. Just enough to switch out Breathe's orange usage. I do somewhat like Saleel's submission but it needs some tweeks. Feel free to add other ideas. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Plymouth theme creation resources
As Lucid will be using Plymouth for its boot theming I think it would be a good thing to create a list of how-tos and whatnot to assist in creating themes. Anyone have any good links? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Studio Artwork group on Flickr
Following the success of the Ubuntu wallpaper contest for Karmic I've decided to start something up for Studio. http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntustudio-artwork Please check it out. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Fluid Boot Experience
So it looks like we're switching to Plymouth for Lucid. (as per source @UDS) I think we should compile any links to resources we can to help in the creation of themes. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Debian package for Day of Ubuntu wallpaper
On 10/31/2009 02:25 PM, Arshad wrote: how about wallpapers changing with regard to the climate? :) http://mundogeek.net/weather-wallpaper is one way. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Help Wanted - Wiki Maintainer
On 10/16/2009 11:30 AM, gilles Coulais - Gmail wrote: Le samedi 10 octobre 2009 à 09:58 -0400, Cory K. a écrit : Just a note, until this position can be filled I cannot devote the required time to the job right now. So it will bet a bit behind. I encourage anyone who enjoys the feature (ability to view current BZR icons from the wiki) to inquire about the position. Hi Cory I missed your initial call for help. I would glad to give a small piece of contribution to this great set of icons you all created. I just need some information on the HOWTO to get started. I can make myself available sometime next week on IRC or somewhere to do that. I'm in France, so preferably after 8PM CET if possible. Ok. Can we do some IRC chat so I can show you what is needed or do you prefer email? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Help Wanted - Wiki Maintainer
Just a note, until this position can be filled I cannot devote the required time to the job right now. So it will bet a bit behind. I encourage anyone who enjoys the feature (ability to view current BZR icons from the wiki) to inquire about the position. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Default design note
Dávid Horváth wrote: Hey Dear Artists! I read a topic on Ubuntu.hu (Hungarian Ubuntu forum), and i would like to bring you the message what i think is the conclusion of the discussion. First have a look of these pictures, and observe them slowly. Try to concentrate what feeling you have when you have a look at the first second, and later on lets say in 15-20 seconds. If this is done, go to the next one and try to analyse what you felt and compare them. Try to be objective. Computer 1 http://www.stardock.com/products/desktopx/dx35/img31.jpg Computer 2http://seanmcgrath.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/sean-leopard-desktop.png Computer 3http://reformedmusings.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jaunty-rc-desktop.jpg I think it is quite obvious that the first one it the most engineered. You start with your eye at the right upper corner at the clock, than follow the line downwards, you loose interest, but you see now the wind-generators, so you fallow them. It gets boring( in a few milliseconds) but there is the horizon, so you fallow that. You have a look at the icons, what are quite nice. You finish, but you still can observe at the clouds and the tray, what has a decent colour. Have a look at the second picture: First you see the welcoming colours and lines. You focus on the middle of this miracle(a bit down, in the middle) and observe it. Its nice. You have a look next to the icons in the bottom, make you feel there are many functions, and possibilities, and you stop at the smiling face. Welcoming. Precise, safe. Have a look at the stars( freedom, space) and go to the right side of the screen with your eye. than the right top and left side. Nice. The first one had a lot more impression so far. Lets observe the third one. Nice welcoming warm colours, you stop at the middle line. Observe it a bit. Nice, smooth lines.. As there is nothing at the bottom your focus goes up to the upper right corner. Bob. Red button, punctuated icons, no structure. You go on the tray to the right side, a big empty space, than an unpleasant question mark.. blue.. how this came here? A too simple envelope.. and firefox. Firefox.. like that. Fox and fire, and a bit blue, earth etc. Than the signs, too narrow, too close, but i like the Ubuntu sign. Forgettable. Dont get me wrong. I love Ubuntu. I really do. I want to make it better, and in these days marketing is one of the most important thing everywhere. We cannot afford adverts, so we have to use other tools. We cannot afford a 20 person big team for design, so we have to do it ourselves. Than do it nice! If its big, lets make it Huge! (If its a goose, make it fat :) Hungarian byword). My opinion is that we should redesign Karmic Koala, and from now on make Ubuntu a lot prettier. Compiz made a lot for Ubuntu's reputation. Why not using it? Wobbling windows, special effects, turned on by default, if we have a working 3d accel. Why not? We coul even do a startup script what would show a 3d cube and slowly zoom on to on of the desktops. Would be amazing. Generally, I agree with your post (welcome btw) but as we (being this list) having no control over the default art, it will be a little hard for us to: redesign Karmic Koala, and from now on make Ubuntu a lot prettier. This list is for community art. We do have projects aimed to make Ubuntu a lot prettier just not by default. :) That's Canonicals call. Stick around though. There are many projects going on lately that are alot of fun. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Daniel's edits review
Cory K. wrote: Ok. Here we are 1 week later. LOTS of stuff happenin' in my personal life so I beg everyone's humble forgiveness as I try to get this train going again. So, let me clue in everyone to what Daniel has done so we can all be on the same page. With Breathe installed, use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=Breathe-Edit_0.10.tar.gz This is a set that includes Daniel's edits and inherits Breathe.. Now while the color consistency is striking, overwhelmingly, people I showed them to felt they were bland. The liked the strength of the base set, but felt that the consistency saw better with Daniel's edits. So, we need to achieve some sort of balance. Here's where the folks on the list chime in. Keep it informative and please no unhelpful I like 'em!s. I'm thinking we can script Daniel's edits to raise the saturation a bit. But that also effects the plate layers. Something I'm not keen on, but, seems no way around it. Unless things can be applied to specific layers? Sound nuts? Ok. Since nobody has chimed in Daniel, Sebastian and I will have to move on our own. Sebastian - Can you chime in on what you do and don't like? It's alot so I know it can be hard. Should we just up the saturation across all the edits? Then remove icons we don't like? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Daniel's edits review
I have had a massive harddrive failure today (physical issue, not just bad data) and will take me a day to rebuild. I will read over this and give more detail by Thursday. Sorry for the delay. Sometimes real-life gets in the way. We'll go at it hard again soon. Daniel, I would like Sebastien to chime in as to what he likes and doesn't. Without getting into too much detail, the overall saturation level of the set is a bit low. Maybe I can script raising levels across the set? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] hello there
Everyone on this list knows what's out there. This list is for community art. (shows this when you join) Canonical controls the look of Ubuntu. Just the breaks. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Development timeline
Andrew wrote: Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote: So with Sebastien taking some time to handle family business (doin' a bit of that myself honestly) I'm looking at things we can refine a bit on the Breathe wiki. I started a Timeline page and would like some feedback as to some points we should try to hit. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Timeline By Hardy do you mean Karmic? Fixed and slight update. I'm just wondering about possible points I should hit in between. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Development timeline
So with Sebastien taking some time to handle family business (doin' a bit of that myself honestly) I'm looking at things we can refine a bit on the Breathe wiki. I started a Timeline page and would like some feedback as to some points we should try to hit. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Timeline -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Designing Ubuntu on a non-free software
Mat Tomaszewski wrote: Hi, Quite recently some community members pointed out that the design team's submissions have been created using proprietary software, like Flash or Photoshop. I have a feeling that this is something that needs to be addressed, as we're all trying to actively support free and open software with our work. It is very true that we do use proprietary software (Flash and Photoshop in particular) as well as free software (Inkscape rocks!) in our daily work. This is largely due to the fact that most of us come from the commercial design background and developed certain habits and workflows – changing these requires time, and time is one of the things we really miss :) Our primary goal is to make Ubuntu better. But that also means contributing to the whole array of software that comes with Ubuntu, including design apps. What we need is a critical mass of goodness, which will help people like us (!) switch! I'm personally interested in contributing to apps like GIMP or Inkscape and I'd appreciate any help with getting in touch with the right people :) Mat P.S. I also think there's something strangely satisfying in beating software companies with their own stick... (OMG, have I just recommended using Windows!?? ;) Note, that this list is for *community* art. Not necessarily the art that ships w/Ubuntu. That's up to Canonical. In any event, here's the start of the previous discussion on this topic: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-April/009727.html -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009
mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: Just wanted to give everyone a little heads-up. Sebastien and I have each had some personal things to deal with over the past two weeks so it has made things slow up a bit on Breathe. Rest assured, we still have a plan. ;) Just to mention a few things , -Sebastiens upload today the mp3 icon doesnt have a shadow, while the other have shadows. I see shadows. Show a screenshot. Not the shadows below , rather no shadow behind one icon compare: breathe-icon-set/incoming/audio-mpeg.svg breathe-icon-set/incoming/audio-x-generic.svg breathe-icon-set/incoming/audio-x-wav.svg audio-mpeg does not have a shadow behind the music note , it is like as if it is drawn on the paper. but the other 2 have shadows behind the note. Gotcha. Correct. This is a design detail that will have to be discussed. i was not saying replace he folder... rather andrew's folder can use Daniel's color palette. Since there was concern for the color palette of the folder , having too much saturation. Isn't I supposed to be capitalized? :) At present, Sebastien, others (people I've shown the revisions to) and myself have concerns about the saturation levels of Daniel's edits. They haven't been posted to the list yet because we've been a bit busy with personal things but we've been talking amongst ourselves. It basically boils down to Daniel's edits looking too desaturated. Really, It could just be his monitor. :) Who knows. In any case it still needs chat and that will be public soon. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009
Just wanted to give everyone a little heads-up. Sebastien and I have each had some personal things to deal with over the past two weeks so it has made things slow up a bit on Breathe. Rest assured, we still have a plan. ;) We will be having a color review of the set with help from Daniel and the work he has done. There is some question as to the saturation levels he's used but that I'm sure will be worked out. After that, Sebastien has the base mime in the works so hopefully that will spurn some development of more filetypes. There still needs to be discussion as to the overall design direction for the files. ie: Should the design be the same throughout or mix it up and make it funky? I think we still need someone to round up a good lot of examples to look at. Volunteers? So for now, I think the 0.50 release will be the one that makes Karmic. It's pretty solid (though i'm not sold on computer really) and bug-free. Any word on this Andrew? Is it through REVU? Stay tuned. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009
mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: Just wanted to give everyone a little heads-up. Sebastien and I have each had some personal things to deal with over the past two weeks so it has made things slow up a bit on Breathe. Rest assured, we still have a plan. ;) Just to mention a few things , -Sebastiens upload today the mp3 icon doesnt have a shadow, while the other have shadows. I see shadows. Show a screenshot. -Daniel has uploaded a folder, Where? Not in BZR. which probably has the palette correct , but looks more like Gnome-colors folder? maybe Andrew's folder could use the same palate Daniel has used... Daniel's folder will not be used. I've said this many times. Once we switched that was it. Small fixes sure but his is a redesign. Andrew SB wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: So for now, I think the 0.50 release will be the one that makes Karmic. It's pretty solid (though i'm not sold on computer really) and bug-free. Any word on this Andrew? Is it through REVU? Yep, I uploaded it the day of the release. It's past the NEW queue and is availiable in Karmic. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/breathe-icon-theme and...@andrew-testing:~$ apt-cache policy breathe-icon-theme breathe-icon-theme: Installed: 0.50 Candidate: 0.50 Version table: *** 0.50 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Ok. Killer. Admittedly, I haven't tested Karmic as much as I should. So, feedback from any adventurous souls is appreciated. @Andrew. Since we have moved to trunk for our packaging can you remove the packaging branch? I also think your packaging bug is hooked to that branch. I think since it's Fixed-Released it's ok if the link is broken. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Thoughts, happenings and other junk.
Tiago Pertile wrote: 2009/7/27 Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com snip very bad :( Wow. That was helpful and informative. Gilles Coulais wrote: 2009/7/28 Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com: Ok. Next. I'm looking for a wiki maintainer. Someone who follows when new icons are added to BZR and does all the proper linking for them to show on the wiki. This position will require someone who is willing to stay on top of this. It will also require some minimal training. An addition, if this person is already good with MoinMoin and can really spruce up our current pages that will be a big plus. Note that this is not an invite for anyone to just start editing. ;) I want to assign someone the task. Preferably someone not already involved with Breathe. Hi Cory, all Can you give me some additional information about your request? Do you expect this task to be very demanding (apart from paying great attention on what's happening on the list+BZR)? Not very demanding but it would need to be maintained as well as BZR is. Maybe an edit a week or so. I don't know MoinMoin, but I'm pretty familiar with other wiki tools, such as mediawiki or dokuwiki. I'll just need some time to get accustomed to MoinMoin. Do you have links to other pages you've designed with the other wikis? So I can get a sense of style? I'd really like to get our Breathe pages looking better. I could do a bit more to them but I've just had a bit of a block lately. I can make myself available on IRC/freenode or Jabber or anywhere else for some training. Just take in account that I'll have more time to spend on this activity during business days than during week ends. That's fine. So if you're ok, I would be glad to help. Let's work on that, with you or anyone else, who can mentor/help me to jump in :) . I'll be there to help the Ubuntu Artwork community, as I really find Breathe and other ubuntu artworks awesome. Sounds good. I still want to wait a bit to see who else is interested. Thanx for yours. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Greets!
Hrafn Nordhri wrote: New to the list.. Welcome. :) a buddy and I are interested in working on some submissions for Karmic. Do you know that this list is for community art? Art that sometimes is shipped with Ubuntu, but not necessarily default? Is there still time to do so? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule Also, I keep seeing that Karmic will have a blue palette, yet the guidelines have the classic brown? You have any official links noting the use of a blue palette? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Thoughts, happenings and other junk.
Thanx to all who have congratulated up on the 0.50 release. Continue to enjoy and tell folks about the set. :) So, this email is, or might be a mixed up jumble of thoughts. Let's see what happens. ;) From here Sebastien and I have been thinking on how to proceed. We have both agreed that the pace of icon creation and acceptance has been a bit hurried and we think stylistic consistency has been a bit compromised. So, with that in mind we will be freezing Breathe from new icons (with the exception of the base mime) for an undetermined amount of time. Really as long as it takes to review and revise what we currently have. The major part of the review will be palette and style consistency. As well as thematic strength. (basically how well does the icon communicate what it's use is?) Daniel has done some very nice work on pulling the palette in line but Sebastien and I share some saturation concerns. Independent reviews outside of Ubuntu are have expressed similar concerns. I will be putting up a package with Daniel's edits for testing this weekend. This review will be a dead honest one. Very few icons will be safe. None of it will be personal. We just need to take a hard look at what we have before we move on. The conclusion of this review (meaning debate and subsequent work) will be our next release. Ok. Next. I'm looking for a wiki maintainer. Someone who follows when new icons are added to BZR and does all the proper linking for them to show on the wiki. This position will require someone who is willing to stay on top of this. It will also require some minimal training. An addition, if this person is already good with MoinMoin and can really spruce up our current pages that will be a big plus. Note that this is not an invite for anyone to just start editing. ;) I want to assign someone the task. Preferably someone not already involved with Breathe. Hmm... That wasn't too bad. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Images on the wiki don't show up / surge protection
Thorsten Wilms wrote: Hi! As some people noticed, the backgrounds pages on our wiki sometimes load with a number of the last images missing. This was already part of the reason for the default/abstract/photo split, but now it reached a point, where I never get to see everything on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds/Extra_Photo This is due to the wiki's surge protection. You will even be told so if you try to open one of the full size images directly after (incomplete) loading of the page. We even lost a contributor because he wanted to use one of those image hosters and I didn't allow that because there shall be no holes in the wiki in a few months or even a few years. It's a known issue and I already talked with Kenneth and Matthew Nuzum, but I want to make this new statement official: It seems there is no easy fix, but sheesh, is that ever ridiculous and annoying. I did set up the background pages and kept an eye on them, but I will not continue to do so and not lift a finger in this area for the next cycle, unless this issue is resolved. The current version of MoinMoin is 1.8.4. (http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload) @Matthew N. What version is Ubuntu/Canonical running and do you know if the latest MoinMoin still has this issue? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] view-refresh
mac_v wrote: daniel planas wrote: icons in scalable format (svg), the curv lines cut the pixels gird and this makes this blur-pixel effect on small resolutions, at the moment is not how to fix. if anyone can help me? I'v tried 2 versions, did nothing to the fill color only edited the stoke. which version do you like? Honestly this is an icon I've never been happy with. I think a big thing is the color. So, this might be taken care of with Daniel's re-touches. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Jumpin' in.
Antonio Roberts wrote: Hi Chris, I've downloaded the Breath icon set. As I've never done this many icons before I just wondered if there's any particular way to go about colouring them or any recommended working methods. Ok. Wait, wait, wait. :) It was a suggestion that I really don't see the point to atm. While you're certainly free to I feel it would somewhat take away from the current effort (as this set is in heavy development) I feel that from seeing the items on your DeviantArt and Flickr pages wallpapers would be a better place for you to jump in. It's a much easier jumpin' off point. -Cory K -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] battery status
dani wrote: On mié, 2009-07-22 at 16:52 -0400, Cory K. wrote: @Daniel: Do you have more color-corrected SVGS? I was kinda waiting on getting more from you until I upload what I have. (I forwarded Seb the ones you sent so he could see the colors) ok, please do not upload even my corrections, I am currently doing a big work: -correcting all palette actual icons -adjsut grid -new mail redesign(more curved lines) -add smoth shadow to actions -redesing folder to more real(not likes plastik, likes paper ;) -more work!! Please I need some days to finish my work, and i will send to you when i finish. No problem. I'll delete the ones I currently have and wait for your new versions. Take your time. I need a bit of a break anyway. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] battery status
dani wrote: On mié, 2009-07-22 at 12:50 -0300, spg76 wrote: I uploaded to the wiki new icons for the battery status. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Status I like it but you should adjust the colors to the palette, as well as upload files svg Well usually Sebastien just uploads the PNGs just to show and SVGs when final. @Daniel: Do you have more color-corrected SVGS? I was kinda waiting on getting more from you until I upload what I have. (I forwarded Seb the ones you sent so he could see the colors) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello World
Antonio Roberts wrote: Hi everyone, I just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Antonio (sometimes known as HelloCatFood). I've been using open source software exclusively for my artwork for nearly two years and made the switch to Ubuntu about 4 months ago. I'm quite interested in helping out in the art department in whatever way I can. I look forward to talking with you all and being involved in a great Linux distro Welcome. :) I want to ask if you understand that this list/team is not responsible of the art that ships by default in Ubuntu? However, people here do maintain alternative art that does ship with Ubuntu. Do you have a portfolio of your work? DeviantArt or Flickr page perhaps? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
mac_v wrote: @ Sebastien: Cory is right about too much detail in the video mime files. we could remove the 3 / the circles /bars / all 3 of them. Well, I actually didn't say that. I just wanted to achieve a balance. I kinda think some of Sebastien's icons have become a little less detailed over time. Something I'm not keen on. So, if ya wanna pin me down, sure. The film might be a little highly detailed but I don't wanna see it lowered too much. Just balance. You know, for the audio files, we don't /have/ to use a note for all of them. We could use a mix of music symbols. Treble/bass clefs for example. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Gnome redesigning icons
dani wrote: gnome team is designing new icons with a more realistic, the result is really very good, http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/#git Yep. Our build system is based of some of these ideas. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
dani wrote: On vie, 2009-07-17 at 20:49 -0400, Cory K. wrote: Daniel has sent me a pack of 76 icons all color corrected! It's really striking how much a difference it makes. There might be slight tweaks after this but this was something that really needed to be done. After the branch merge is done (see other thread) his color fixes will be uploaded. He should also be assembling a palette for other to better follow later and will be acting as our Palette Police from here on out. :) I'm working on a new sub-wiki page for revisions. My idea is that all icons must undergo a revision of 2 filters: 1-color Palette 2-pixel grid Once the icons have presented two revisions passed the icon is ready to be uploaded. Also many current icons should be revised to satisfy the overall consistency and professionalism of the work. it's mucho work but it is necessary to ensure: -quality -consistency -professional (must be borne in mind that there are many different artists working on the set) pd: this work is waiting to be confirmed and accepted by cory but I volunteer to be reviewing all the icons from the upcoming release. I think the idea is sound but this should be done on the Submissions page. We can do this work without question on the rest of the icons but the fact of the matter is very little folks care about the rest of the pages. So, my opinion is to do this on Submissions from here on out and you continue your work and I'll upload the result. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
dani wrote: On sáb, 2009-07-18 at 10:45 -0400, Cory K. wrote: I think the idea is sound but this should be done on the Submissions page. We can do this work without question on the rest of the icons but the fact of the matter is very little folks care about the rest of the pages. So, my opinion is to do this on Submissions from here on out and you continue your work and I'll upload the result. I agree with you, but many actual icons need revision and I am willing to do it, however would be very good for me to can view my work progress, and see the icons-revised and icons-not revised. you allow me to use this system ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons The system is fine, but not on the entirety of the set so far. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions should be enough. Well wait. You're not adding any images just the new fields to the end right? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Chris Tooley euxn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would show more definition of filetype without the paper background as a border. I also think it's an unnecessary trope left over from older systems that tried to represent digital information in a physical representation. If you think about it conceptually, the paper is only there to serve as a reminder that the file is a file. But what else is it going to be? If we have these distinguishing marks (video negative, photos, music note) we may as well go the whole shebang. I see your point but I like paper idea too :) Of course, this it's a matter of opinion. I'm gonna make the 16px only with the symbols like Cory suggested and see how it looks. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote: mac_v wrote: @ Sebastien: Cory is right about too much detail in the video mime files. we could remove the 3 / the circles /bars / all 3 of them. Well, I actually didn't say that. I just wanted to achieve a balance. I kinda think some of Sebastien's icons have become a little less detailed over time. Something I'm not keen on. So, if ya wanna pin me down, sure. The film might be a little highly detailed but I don't wanna see it lowered too much. Just balance. You know, for the audio files, we don't /have/ to use a note for all of them. We could use a mix of music symbols. Treble/bass clefs for example. I only make this icons to show the idea, they still need some work. So when we are good to go, I retouch them and I try to maintain a balance in the details. BTW, Cory, what icons do you think need more details? Well I can't point to anything specific yet as we really don't have many mimes made. :) And since these are just examples, I'll give it some time. I like the idea at the end of my quote above. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Powder
Matthew Nuzum wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: It's been about 3 weeks since the last word on this. This was an idea with alot of steam that has seem to fallen down. Like all of us I know you have many duties but there was a lot of interest in this and I hope you haven't missed your opportunity Did you say you were gonna have some research up like 2 weekends ago?. Sorry for the delay, the jaunty release is consuming all of my time. Don't consider this abandoned yet, Jaunty is out the door on Thursday and around next Monday I'll be going through my inbox and todo list to set priorities. So, 2 months later. Can we assume this effort has fallen by the wayside? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Breathe Icon Theme v0.50
Andrew SB wrote: I'm pleased to announce, on behalf of the Ubuntu artwork community, the release of Breathe Icon Theme v0.50! This version introduces new folder icons including XDG folders (i.e. Music, Documents, ect). Also included for the first time are new emotes, network-manager icons, and much much more. Packages designed to be dropped into GNOME appearance preferences can be found here: * Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet#Releases * GNOME-Look: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=105873 Ubuntu packages for Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic can be found in the Breathe PPA. * PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa And for the first time, Breathe will be availiable in the official Ubuntu repositories for Karmic! The package is currently waiting for approval by the Ubuntu Archive Admins. Great job everyone! For me Breathe is a great example that shows that our little community can be creative and productive. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
Chris Tooley wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px? I though about this but, although it give us more space for details, I don't know if it's such a good idea. I'd like to try it. See how it works out. If I may offer a suggestion, I think removing the paper border would allow more detail in the icon that represents a specific filetype - giving more detail and definition in all sizes. For 16px, sure. That's what I wanna try. On the other sizes I want to still have the paper to clearly show its a file. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.
Andrew SB wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due out this weekend. (July 18th or so) This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular sections from current artists. AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on. Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive and GNOME-Look. So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical issues. @AndrewSB: How's the Needs Packaging bug going? I'm feeling pretty good about the packaging. I think it's ready for upload. Ok. My latest upload should be considered release-ready. Not something to block the .50 release, but worth bringing up for discussion: We could use some translations for the comment field: Breathe Icon Theme It's a bit of an over kill for one string, but I uploaded the .pot file to Rosetta: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set/trunk/+pots/breathe-icon-theme Ok cool. Everyone is encouraged to visit the above link and post what they can. :) @AndrewSB: Can the template be owned by breathe-dev? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Merge trunk and packaging branches?
This is mostly a question for AndrewSB. I'm wondering if there's any reason why a BZR branch set up for Debian packaging couldn't be considered an upstream? (as this is a native package and we do it in Studio) If there is nothing glaring, I'm inclined to merge the two to reduce some of the redundancy. We would do all our work there and I suspect the build system would just ignore the other files/folders. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Merge trunk and packaging branches?
Andrew SB wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: This is mostly a question for AndrewSB. I'm wondering if there's any reason why a BZR branch set up for Debian packaging couldn't be considered an upstream? (as this is a native package and we do it in Studio) If there is nothing glaring, I'm inclined to merge the two to reduce some of the redundancy. We would do all our work there and I suspect the build system would just ignore the other files/folders. No reason at all. I always though it was a bit redundant. None of the other files will be installed to the binary or end up on the user's system. In fact, having that stuff in the source package is probably a good thing as it would contain the complete one-canvas source SVGs. We could even add render_bitmap.py to the build process so that the package it truly built from source. We should do go ahead and do this after the release... As of now, the render_bitmap.py /has/ to be run manually. Ted Gould would like figure out how to whole thing could be on xvfb, so it'd run on a buildd. That will come later. So yeah. This will be my next project after 0.50 is released and makes it into the archive.\ -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.
Andrew SB wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew SB wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due out this weekend. (July 18th or so) This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular sections from current artists. AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on. Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive and GNOME-Look. So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical issues. @AndrewSB: How's the Needs Packaging bug going? I'm feeling pretty good about the packaging. I think it's ready for upload. Ok. My latest upload should be considered release-ready. Alright. Not something to block the .50 release, but worth bringing up for discussion: We could use some translations for the comment field: Breathe Icon Theme It's a bit of an over kill for one string, but I uploaded the .pot file to Rosetta: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set/trunk/+pots/breathe-icon-theme Ok cool. Everyone is encouraged to visit the above link and post what they can. :) I'll go ahead and merge what we have for the release. @AndrewSB: Can the template be owned by breathe-dev? Done. Great. So the next email should be from Andrew about the official release and we can consider this a success. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
Daniel has sent me a pack of 76 icons all color corrected! It's really striking how much a difference it makes. There might be slight tweaks after this but this was something that really needed to be done. After the branch merge is done (see other thread) his color fixes will be uploaded. He should also be assembling a palette for other to better follow later and will be acting as our Palette Police from here on out. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: To decide about colors and labels I made some samples based on Conn and mac_v suggestions. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors.png We could do something like the WAV icon in #2. Where the design is the same for the mimes but the text changes. And I agree with mac_v that we should drop the text (and maybe the lower strip) below 24px. Maybe just center the glyph. Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
dani wrote: I saw that all of Breathe icons are not coordinated palette and in general are very different. We gave guidelines in the template but some have not followed this. well as the folder icons are too saturated. Yeah kinda. You can see sets of many icons such as humanity or gnome-colors, which despite having a different style, are pleasant and Swabian. meh :P we need to fix this in Breathe i think. This is why we need a coordinated review. It will happen soon. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote: We could do something like the WAV icon in #2. Where the design is the same for the mimes but the text changes. I made some other samples and render the icons to show you how it looks in Nautilus. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors2.png I think we're on the right track but we have to somehow balance the detail level of the glyphs. ie: the video vs. the audio glyph. And I agree with mac_v that we should drop the text (and maybe the lower strip) below 24px. Maybe just center the glyph. Yeah, this is why I like mac_v's idea. Because we can remove the strip and the text and still recognize the icon for the color. Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px? I though about this but, although it give us more space for details, I don't know if it's such a good idea. I'd like to try it. See how it works out. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
Cory K. wrote: NOTE: While this might end up as our base shape, there's nothing that says the inside has to use simple glyphs. We could have the whole paper colored to represent certain filetypes with interior details. Point is even if our base shape is simple (and a bit boring :P) the rest of the design need not be. I'd like others to throw up ideas to be used for our icons. I'll start a page soon to collect them. * One idea: http://dlanham.com/art/somadocs/preview.png I like the idea of the colored bottom portion where we can add the extension. (note: i am not content to do the freedesktop thing and have 1 icon represent a whole family of icons) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: Ok. So while I'm not thrilled with the simplicity of the base I think this is our best option now. I also don't want to drag this question out any longer. @Sebastien: If you wanna do anything to the base go ahead. Then throw it up for all to use. Then, we'll go from there as to how the mimes should develop. I made another version for the mimetypes, this time a little less rigid. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Mimetypes I also compile some Nautilus screenshots to show the in use look. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Mimetypes_1.png (1st version) http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Mimetypes_2.png (2nd version) As much as I hate to say it, I'm leaning toward the 1st version. Maybe with some work on the shadows. NOTE: While this might end up as our base shape, there's nothing that says the inside has to use simple glyphs. We could have the whole paper colored to represent certain filetypes with interior details. Point is even if our base shape is simple (and a bit boring :P) the rest of the design need not be. So Sebastien, if you want to go with the 1st version but just play with the shadowing that might be the way to go. Thoughts? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.
Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due out this weekend. (July 18th or so) This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular sections from current artists. AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on. Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive and GNOME-Look. So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical issues. @AndrewSB: How's the Needs Packaging bug going? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder-remote icon
mac_v wrote: Hi, The Folder-remote needs to be replaced , it still uses the old folder. Fixed. And note: Artists, this is what happens when you don't have the paths correctly set in the layer name. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Lots of updates. July 11th 2009
Andrew wrote: Bugs in trunk - When I try to render multimedia-player-apple-ipod.svg, because there is an acute 'e' in the SVG file, it gives me a UnicodeEncodeError. Searching for the acute 'e' in the svg file and replacing it with a normal 'e' solves the problem Have you recursively vacuumed def's lately? It might be worth it to save a lot of space: find | xargs inkscape --vacuum-defs -z I haven't been able to fix this myself but has been a total pain. If you send me an updated file I'll upload. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: I uploaded to the wiki new icons for mimetypes. It's basically a common page (not dog-eared) The gradient and the shadows might need some work but I want to show you how it looks. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Mimetypes I also made some screenshots in different zoom views in Nautilus. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo.png http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo-1.png http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo-2.png http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo-3.png Ok. So while I'm not thrilled with the simplicity of the base I think this is our best option now. I also don't want to drag this question out any longer. @Sebastien: If you wanna do anything to the base go ahead. Then throw it up for all to use. Then, we'll go from there as to how the mimes should develop. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Brainstorming session July 19th 2009
I want to schedule a general brainstorming/chat session for anyone working on or interested in Breathe. I hope to get discussion points and ideas to go over in future meetings. So just something general to throw things out there and maybe answer questions. Who's interested? (hoping to see artists and respected members here) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] newbie with a new old icon
Galan Montgomery wrote: Alright, I made some minor tweaks--mostly thickening lines and adjusting geometry--and uploaded it to the wiki. The most substantial change is the roof on the 16x16 version. I love your work, keep in mind for future work to fit the icons in the grid of pixels, for no icons blured. I'll keep this in mind for the future. I gave editing this icon to fit the grid a shot, but it's a lot of work at this point. If people think it'll make a worthwhile difference, I'll go ahead and do it, though. Looks good, :) But only for the 128px , reducing the thickness of the roof would be better. I thought about this, and you're probably right, but I'm concerned about what might happen if an app scales the icon in real-time. It would be a bit jarring to see the roof suddenly change like that. Is their likely to be an app that does that? Probably not, but I don't know of any apps that use a 128x128 home icon, either. As the places where this icon is typically used is surrounded at present by flat icons I'm unsure about the detail level and whether it fits our current direction. So at present, I can't consider this icon but please keep an eye out for places where you can get involved. Mime work will hopefully start in the next few weeks. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Kenneth Wimerkw...@ubuntu.com wrote: It means that someone forgot to run debclean on the package before rebuilding :p Anyway I've just received the new faces icons, so now it's synchronized (had to wait a few days, iirc) So my only doubt is why norification-network-* icons are 0x0 px No no no. Currently, the 2 branches are out of sync. I have not moved or rendered the latest updates for both sets. Also, the notification-* icons have a bug (rendering blank PNGS) I will resolve before the 0.50 release is pushed. (waiting on more updates) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Lots of updates. July 11th 2009
The past week has brought many bug fixes and a handful of new icons. Too much to mention right now. The highlight being a complete set of new folder icons including the XDG user dirs. https://code.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk @Andrew: If you would like to push to the PPA the current packaging branch state as testing package for 0.50 that would be cool. Maybe we call it 0.47 and 0.50 once things look good after some feedback? (just a day or 2) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] download icon bug
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: The download icon must be named folder-download and not folder-downloads. Fixed. Andrew can upload fix to PPA when he has the time. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA
Andrew SB wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Andrew SBa.star...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Kenneth Wimerkw...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tuesday 30 June 2009 22:40:22 Cory K. wrote: Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Tuesday 30 June 2009 10:31:00 Cory K. wrote: Andrew SB wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will get accepted. * License Review: - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0 - Which is right? - Are NC license non-free? - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and debian/copyright) - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not debian/copyright. I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered non-free. I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not. From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ: (http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html) Q: Can I say You must not use the program for commercial purposes? A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in Debian without checking its license. Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my inclination is that the license is non-free. If someone wanted to roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to redistribute anything in Universe with no problem. The 1st. CC-BY-SA-3.0 The metadata in the SVGs should be stripped. It's a remnant of something that never worked. Oxygen is dual-licensed: http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4 You need to at least continue the copyright that Jakub expresses for the purposes he expressed it (ie, don't remove any of the copyright notices which attribute his work to him). I don't use any direct work from him. Only the idea. We should give him a shout out anyway. To be honest, unless you have plans to make big bucks on this stuff I would assign copyright as broadly as needed amongst known open source advocates/artists. As long as the original material is in line with your licensing, why not? (if some part of their work did indeed make it into yours) Any metadata in the SVGs I added because I thought it would be fun to use. Turns out, nobody cared. Lol, no doubt. It only adds value as an additional copyright notice for the actual author(s). In the end, you can do this via the AUTHORS file as well as the COPYRIGHT, etc. Getting all the licensing / copyright in order can be a bit tedious, but not having it right is the main reason why packages get rejected in NEW. Getting everything straightened out for gnome-colors was a real hassle, as the icons in that set come from a few different sources. I fixed the metadata in the svg's. As they all use the same template it was painless. For the record here is the command I ran: find . -type f -name *.svg | xargs sed -i -e s/by-nc-sa/by-sa/g If there are oxygen icons or parts of oxygen icons being used (or even if there is a very strong similarity in design or style) you should include the names of the authors in the AUTHORS file as well as attributing the correct licence. It seems to me, just by reading this and not getting into it very deep that you do not need to include the oxygen list (and if it turned out that you did, I am sure I would ask nicely first :p) I think I mention the team. Kenneth, if you could, please look through the packaging branch and see if things fit your idea of how they should be. Credit and what not. To be honest, I wouldn't definitely notice, off the bat, if some small part is being copied and to be even more honest, I doubt we would raise a fuss in any case unless of course you step on the toes of an oxygen core member by attributing something he did as your own (so don't even think of trying to earn money on it without following the licensing, which is in line in both packages. If it came down to a situation in which a breathe icon became amazingly famous but was really based on an oxygen icon I am sure we could work something out...this isn't about becoming a super-star or something :p Jakub's build system was used but there's no copyright there I know of. I'm just giving attribution/props. If the Oxygen team should be in the debian/copyright then go ahead. I'm sure Ken can chime in. In the end, no Oxygen will be used. That's the plan. It was/is simply to be used as inspiration
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon
Oliver Scholtz 1 wrote: Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 15:33 -0300 schrieb spg76: I made some of the folders based on this. Here's a screenshot in Nautilus. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/folders2.png Let me know what you think. I think the emblems on the folders from mac_v are much nicer ... Download, music and video aren't nice. Download is to neon and the shadow too strong - the music-note isn't the nicest ... but okay!? - video isn't clear and ugly ... I think as far as the coloring goes its the same as other icons. Therefor, I think it's fine as-is or we also change the other icons using the color. Sebastien, I think these are fine for now. Go ahead and upload to /incoming along with the other folders I mentioned in previous emails. I'd like to start testing ASAP. Oh! I like that you did a UbuntuOne folder. If we can support that I think we should. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon
Ok. I have to 1st say that mac_v's folder icon will not be used. The perspective is wrong and looks square. Make it feel scrunched and awkward. Along with whatever mac did to the folder, thickened up some of the lines making it feel very Tango. We will use Andrew Higginson's folder if the testing in the next 2 weeks goes well. This is crazy. I'm not entertaining a new folder every month. Especially if their design just isn't up to snuff. That said, I do like the idea of using colored items on the folders and using just those images for the smaller sizes. I will give the XDG folder ideas 1 more week then we will go with whatever direction is the strongest. Which currently is a mix of Sebastien's current small icons: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/folders.png and his earlier concept: http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/253/c/0/Ubuntu_Folders_Concept_by_spg76.png using Andrews folders. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Places There ya go. A command decision. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] IRC nick change
Just a note, that as of now I will no longer use my old nick: _MMA_ on IRC. I will use a abbreviation of my real name: ckontros. As this cycle I'm not as heavily involved in Ubuntu development as I once was and I feel that using my real name is just a bit more, adult/professional, I'm making the switch. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] New template file.
All artists please re-download the template file as all the metadata is now stripped from it. The plan was to use it but that hasn't worked so we'll just avoid it for now. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet#Step%20by%20step Thank you. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Extended weekend break.
Just a note: I'll be away for the next 4 days on vacation so I will be away from my computer and no updates will hit the set. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA
Andrew SB wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will get accepted. * License Review: - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0 - Which is right? - Are NC license non-free? - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and debian/copyright) - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not debian/copyright. I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered non-free. I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not. From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ: (http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html) Q: Can I say You must not use the program for commercial purposes? A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in Debian without checking its license. Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my inclination is that the license is non-free. If someone wanted to roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to redistribute anything in Universe with no problem. The 1st. CC-BY-SA-3.0 The metadata in the SVGs should be stripped. It's a remnant of something that never worked. Oxygen is dual-licensed: http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4 Jakub's build system was used but there's no copyright there I know of. I'm just giving attribution/props. If the Oxygen team should be in the debian/copyright then go ahead. I'm sure Ken can chime in. In the end, no Oxygen will be used. That's the plan. It was/is simply to be used as inspiration. I'm also still a bit unclear on if there are any actual Oxygen bits in there. Is it safe to add a note to AUTHORS saying that it's simply inspired by Oxygen, does the Oxygen team hold the copyright on anything in the theme? To my knowledge, only the base mime and bittorrent icons are. Daniel might be able to shed more light on this. * Native package or not? - I think that it shouldn't be a native package. + Pros and Cons: - In a native package, the versioning of the source package and the debian package are identical. This gets problematic when doing things like making a packaging bug fix upload to Ubuntu only. The version number will be bumped, even though there hasn't actually been an upstream release and the only changes are in the debian dir. - Would mean making a tarball release along with the drag-and-drop release. - Most Ubuntu artwork packages are native packages, but while Breathe is designed with Ubuntu in mind there's nothing stopping other distros from shipping it. Either way, it's not really a big deal. I just think that it shouldn't technically be a native package. (To the uninitiated, simply should the Ubuntu version be 0.44 or 0.44-0ubuntu1) As this is a Ubuntu project by and for it's community it will be a native package for now. * Other trivial bits (ie not very important, but worth fixing). - Since Ken changed the build system, the INSTALL file doesn't actually apply anymore - NEWS and README are empty files (remove or write something?) Nix them then. - No upstream changelog (running the following before releasing will create a GNU style changelog based on the bzr commits: bzr log -v --gnu-changelog ChangeLog) Do we care or need it? For me, the BZR log is the change log. This is something we gotta look at. If the BZR log can create/write the changelog. - Ubuntu packages should close a needs-packaging bug on initial upload Unless this is something new, I've never heard of this. I don't think it's necessary. The licensing bit is really the most important part. I wouldn't ACK a someone else's package on review as it is now. Hopefully my answers help. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Notify-osd Icons
mac_v wrote: Hi, Just uploaded the Wireless notify-osd icons. Due to the distinct appearance of the Bubbles , Simple exporting of the svg , will not show how the final icon looks , Hence I'v posted screenshots of the icons in action. I'v done them in color , Kwwii says that the icons can be in color *if* breathe wants to use color in the Bubbles. Cheers, mac_v PS: @Cory : I'v done them only in 48px , I'v confirmed with kwwii , he said that doing them in 48px is sufficient since that is how they are displayed . :) Also 48px is the only size in the Human icon set. But these icons are in the scalable folder. + notify-osd isnt yet good with rescaled icons larger than 48px. :( Actually, I can simply simlink these. So no need for actual files. I like these for now. We'll go with them. As always, if someone out there has something better, show us. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
mac_v wrote: spg76 wrote: I uploaded to the wiki new icons for mimetypes. It's basically a common page (not dog-eared) The gradient and the shadows might need some work but I want to show you how it looks. I'll try to make different versions this week if I have the time. Hi, Cory wanted a different base for the mime types, he didnt want to use a rectangle sheet of paper. True as I want to try to have a little style here. But, in the interest of moving things along I will say with 32px and below we go with the flat sheet. So the sake of simplicity. Also not using the paper for audio,video, look better. The audio-x-generic icon without the paper would look better. Actually my thought for all files would be to use the sheet. But I'm not hard set. The background paper used only for pdf,docx,... would be better. I'll put more thought into this later with another reply. 4:30am here and I'm off to work. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA
Andrew SB wrote: I'm pleased to let people know that the Breathe PPA is now building packages for the current bzr revision. I'll be updating the PPA at least once per week as long as something interesting has been done in trunk. Remember, as the PPA's description says, this is a testing repo. So while I'll make every effort to avoid breakage, it is publishing snapshots of current development not official releases. Hopefully, this will make it easier for those of you following Breathe's development. https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa Great Andrew. Well done. I would say building every other week would be better as I tend to let a weekend go by to let things build up before I make major uploads. So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release and review.
I have made a big upload today and will have the nm-* icons from mac_v soon. After that, we will be in freeze so as to conduct a aesthetic review of the set so far. What works, what doesn't and what needs fixes. I'll roll a .tar for the general public to test. This 0.50 release will be the 1st submitted to the archive for inclusion in the Karmic repos. More to come. Gotta get away from the PC for a bit. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Oxygen icon use.
Andrew SB wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:48 AM, daniel planas armanguedaniplana...@gmail.com wrote: El jue, 25-06-2009 a las 18:48 -0400, Cory K. escribió: @Daniel Can you tell me what submissions you currently have on the wiki are derived from Oxygen icons? my submissions are created from zero now dp: in document send I used the stamp watermarks of an icon of oxygen. I had been meaning to ask about this as well. In the packaging branch the AUTHORS file includes the Oxygen team and debian/control's description claims that pieces of Oxygen are used. Are there any more instances of Oxygen included in Breathe? We need to get them documented in debian/copyright before we can upload to Karmic... Not down to the individual file we don't. But, I do want to take an inventory here soon. Andrew: Feel free to clean up the packaging branches little issues though. T'sI's need crossed I guess. If you have a question, hit me up in #ubuntu-artwork. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Oxygen icon use.
@Daniel Can you tell me what submissions you currently have on the wiki are derived from Oxygen icons? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] wiki/release for Karmic
daniel planas armangue wrote: I have updated the wiki with all the icons that we need to reach the 1.0 release. Cool. Congratulations Sebastian by the end of the devices! (I deleted the category of the wiki) :) with all the artists together, we can get the release before karmik koala! I want to stress that this is *not* a goal. We will take icons as they come and if they fit. *If* we reach 1.0 in time for Karmic great. But, I don't think we will get there as we need a mass review soon. We're letting icons get in that don't quite fit Sebastien's style or still need work. We will have a review soon. More to come. Stay tuned. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Smileys
Micha Reischuck wrote: Cory K. wrote: Generally, I think most of these are good enough to upload and refine as we go. face-glasses, I know I do not like the glasses. They feel totally odd. Could you explain, what you want to be changed, please. Or don't you like the glasses generally? thx michote I don't like their sporty style nor the lighting. Makes them feel separate from the face. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] discusion for Software-properties and system-software-installers
daniel planas armangue wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=software-icons.png which version you prefer? As I want to get away from actually using Oxygen parts (as mentioned in a recent email) we need to come up with a new base archive icon. We should settle that 1st then move on with this idea. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] app/prefs submissions.
daniel planas armangue wrote: El sáb, 20-06-2009 a las 18:23 -0400, Cory K. escribió: I'll be grabbin' most of these except the GDM (still gotta look over these) and the brown desktop based ones. I'll clean up the wiki after upload to reflect what I used. Today (21 jun) I fixed some problems with the small resolutions, now scale perfect, ;) I don't like the darkness of the background image. It also ties us to a specific release. Come up with an original, lighter background and I'll add this. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] discusion for Software-properties and system-software-installers
Cory K. wrote: daniel planas armangue wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=software-icons.png which version you prefer? As I want to get away from actually using Oxygen parts (as mentioned in a recent email) we need to come up with a new base archive icon. We should settle that 1st then move on with this idea. PS: Linking to the attachment here is a fine idea but displaying it in the wiki is a bad idea as it broke it apart. I removed it. (but not the attachment) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Smileys
Generally, I think most of these are good enough to upload and refine as we go. face-glasses, I know I do not like the glasses. They feel totally odd. I will upload the rest of them this weekend with the note that they still need a little work. Further revisions can be posted to the wiki or sent directly to me. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] app/prefs submissions.
I'll be grabbin' most of these except the GDM (still gotta look over these) and the brown desktop based ones. I'll clean up the wiki after upload to reflect what I used. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [BREATHE] Emblems
I'm uploading a couple of these soon. emblem-unreadable, emblem-synchronized, emblem-symbolic-link and emblem-favorite. I have issues with the others that need addressed before they can be uploaded. I'll elaborate after this weeks upload. (most likely tomorrow) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] BZR uploads June 20th 2009
I've made quite a few uploads today. (with maybe a few more on Sunday) The Submissions page has been cleaned up a bit. So I'd like artists to go through and remove attachments that correspond to what I've removed from view on the wiki. @Daniel: I've used 1 or 2 of your preferences-* apps in other ways. You'll see when you look through. Updates: * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Emotes * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Applications * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Devices * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Emblems * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Actions * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Status Pretty much half the pages. Both branches are updated and packaging build properly. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [BREATHE] Emblems
mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: I'm uploading a couple of these soon. emblem-unreadable, emblem-synchronized, emblem-symbolic-link and emblem-favorite. I have issues with the others that need addressed before they can be uploaded. I'll elaborate after this weeks upload. (most likely tomorrow) ok... I understand your choice. But the emblem-mail? is it because you are looking for an emblem which has the back of the envelope? Everyone does the same back of envelope, thought this was a different approach... Or if you dont like anything particular about that mail emblem , if you were more specific, I could correct it... Generally, I'm unsure about all of them. I've been so busy that I'm just generally unsure of the direction as a whole and an just uploading some things I think might work. Something that might spark an idea. Maybe we should do something like GNOME (/usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/emblems) or Tango (/usr/share/icons/Tango/scalable/emblems) image-wise? (not the style just the objects) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe:[submissions tuesday 19]
daniel planas armangue wrote: this afternoon has been very productive for me, I hope your comments on the new icons apps preferences-desktop-theme (versions 1,2,3) apps preferences-desktop-wallpaper apps wmtweaks compiz fusion manager apps fusion-icon apps gnome-panel-notification-area PD:hope you like! Nice. :) I'd like Sebastien to give his opinion. If positive, I'll upload. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Sorry
Chris Tooley wrote: Doesn't the wiki have versioning? It does. Or does that not work with attachments? Correct. Please do not top post. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Trash icon alternatives
Alex Lancey wrote: I'll try a few fresh samples then. There we are. Every one lacks the detail/realism that the current one has and that the set strives to attain. Cartoonish outlines. Odd shadowing. Just not what we would be looking for. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Sorry
Chris Tooley wrote: Apologies regarding top post. I use gmail and there isn't a way as far as I know to set it to default to bottom post - unless someone can tell me of a plugin or something? I wish it had a setting in the prefs to do it by default but simply putting the cursor ar the bottom works. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Transmission v2
daniel planas armangue wrote: El lun, 15-06-2009 a las 17:37 -0400, Cory K. escribió: daniel planas armangue wrote: I created a new version of the icon of transmission. inspired by this version of the MacOS. The problem is i didn't found the scalable icon icon because it uses a size of 512pixels in PNG format(on mac os), and we need a svg file So I created from zero. jope you like Still doesn't grab me. For now, lets stay of upstream app icons like this. and not understood very well because you does not like. I think the quality of the icon is pretty good: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=Pantallazo.jpg That doesn't mean it should go in. Like I said, let's stay away from app icons and focus on the system. that is what you do not like? If I knew, I would say. I can't quite figure it out. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Trash icon alternatives
Alex Lancey wrote: I'll have the trash icon stuff up probably today or tomorrow. I may not get around to the folder because I found it rather difficult to manipulate though... Done, and I've uploaded a comparison to the email (should it go on the wiki?). Unfortunately, I had a weird problem in rendering the svg originals. Every one, including the unadulterated old icon, rendered with the left hand highlight appearing ore or less solid. Don't know what caused that. I haven't made any full trash alternatives because I don't have any ideas unique to the crumpled paper, and I don't want to do twice as many samples. I'm not particularly into accepting something that is some slight edit on this one. I would consider a new design altogether. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Transmission v2
daniel planas armangue wrote: I created a new version of the icon of transmission. inspired by this version of the MacOS. The problem is i didn't found the scalable icon icon because it uses a size of 512pixels in PNG format(on mac os), and we need a svg file So I created from zero. jope you like Still doesn't grab me. For now, lets stay of upstream app icons like this. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...
spg76 wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote: @Sebastien: The 1st set of weather-* icons will be used. Just take into account the use-cases of the smaller sizes with regard to detail level. OK. I'm testing the icons with the clock applet to see how they look. Anyone knows what else can I use to test them? I mean, what other applications use them? I'm unsure but I can look into it soon. Any idea of when the final new glyphs and such will be done? I know mac_v wants to use them in places. They also have to be used on a few of Daniel's icons. Well, I made one version you can see at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=document-new2.png https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=folder-new2.png https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=mail-message-new.png And in use screenshots at: https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new1.png https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new2.png https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new3.png https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new4.png I was going to make another version with the plus sign only (see nr. 5 here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=new_glyphs.png) but I don't like how it looks in the small sizes. If you don't like the first version I'll give another try. I think we can go with it for now. Try them out for a bit and refine later if need be. Can you get together a keyboard for use with video-display to use as a new computer? I made two versions of the computer icon and upload them to the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Devices Wow. I don't know which I like better. I'll let others chime in. :) --The base mime icon-- Danny King's concepts were nice but things like the torn edge detail got lost quickly. A simple flat rectangle seems a bit boring. What else can we come up with. Maybe someone can assemble some stuff from GNOME-Look and places to compare what has been done. (please make it 1 image to look at. not a archived set of images) If a have time, a play around with this and see if I come up with something useful. --Media-* icons-- Can anyone finish out the set based on Olivers previous work? Again, if I have time I'll finish them. But a volunteer here would be really appreciated so we can finally wrap this up. No Problem. @mac_v: What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have stalled a bit. I made a version for the wireless networks (not the connection animation) based on the Notify-OSD ones, just to use it on my system. Here's a couple of screenshots: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/wireless.png http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/wireless1.png Hmm... Interesting. I still cant decide on this one. I think I'll create a sub-page where we can focus on these and go over different designs. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...
So I'm going to apologize for this non-cohesive email ahead of time. There's just alot of little junk to address. :P I uploaded: appointment-soon (the 1st one) help-about preferences-system-indexed preferences-desktop-screensaver video-display stock_contact folder-remote (I'd like to create a new connected image. that thing under the folder) and a system-search based on Oliver's submission (though I think the turquoise color needs serious help). Where has Oliver gone? @mac_v: Emotes are going along well. You have a ETA on the finished set? And note, while I like them I think at some point they will need a little something. Something just doesn't fit quite right. But they are 85% there. Also the Emblems are needing some love. Make emblem-symbolic-link white (still use some black/gray gradient on it) and I'll upload it along with emblem-favorite (the 1st one), emblem-downloads (though I'm not thrilled with the globe) and emblem-synchronized. emblem-important and emblem-unreadable have what looks to be more of a steeper bevel to them than the others. Correct that and I'll upload. Maybe they need a look closer to the ones used on Daniels mail-* and object-* icons? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Actions Yes. I think that's it. What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have stalled a bit. @Sebastien: The 1st set of weather-* icons will be used. Just take into account the use-cases of the smaller sizes with regard to detail level. Any idea of when the final new glyphs and such will be done? I know mac_v wants to use them in places. They also have to be used on a few of Daniel's icons. Can you get together a keyboard for use with video-display to use as a new computer? @Daniel: It looks that with stock_mail-import you have refined the shadowing to be more in-line with the rest of the set. Please apply this to the other mail-* icons and I will upload. Also, the updates to the Nav buttons (changing the gradient to look like lighting is from above) should apply to stock_mail-import as well as the glyphs on mail-*. And sorry, I just can't like the Transmission icon. Just feels off. :( --The folder icon-- I'm really waiting to see more submissions here. We *cannot* make a switch now only to do this all over again in a couple of months. I'll let it go for a few weeks and make a decision as to how to proceed. In the meantime, Andrew, can you make the tab a *little* bigger (the on on the upper left) and get together the home and open versions? --The base mime icon-- Danny King's concepts were nice but things like the torn edge detail got lost quickly. A simple flat rectangle seems a bit boring. What else can we come up with. Maybe someone can assemble some stuff from GNOME-Look and places to compare what has been done. (please make it 1 image to look at. not a archived set of images) --Emblems-- mac_v has been working on these but I have a question. Where the emblems use real objects such as, a lock, I feel they should be as photo-realistic as the rest of the real icons in the set. Agreed? --Media-* icons-- Can anyone finish out the set based on Olivers previous work? --Use of Oxygen icons-- I know that a starting point for Breathe was using Oxygen icons but I feel we're starting to assemble a good group of guys and as such would like to try to not use them at all. *Totally* use them as inspiration, but I feel Sebastien's original icons have been great and on some levels the 2 sets just don't fit. Now I know Oxygen has multiple artists and this could simple be a case where some artists fit and others don't rather than the sets as a whole. Ok. Wow. Lots of stuff there. I think most of these are little issues but we can split if a subject becomes more important. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] about media-* icons
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: Are the media-* icons final? I don't find them well integrated with the rest of the icon set, because they seem to be high-relief (too much 3d-thick) You're welcome to submit an alternative. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] about media-* icons
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: You're welcome to submit an alternative. Thanks' Cory, but instead of submitting an alternative, I was only wondering if any other person feels the same as me about media-* icons. The author has not communicated for a while. I have asked for someone else to finish his set based on the current. Having said that, I rarely call things final that don't effect the set in a great way. (like the folders) Things are always open to chat/new submissions. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...
mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have stalled a bit. I hadnt worked on them , was waiting for you. I have been unsure on them as well. A few changes need to be made, the 50% i'll change to green and the 25% in yellow.[keeping in mind kwwii's concern that red should be sparingly used in the panel] Sounds fine. Also i'd say doing these icons doing in 128px is sufficient and adding them to to scalable folder is the best , i'v tried making them in different sizes but its never as good. the icons scale well so i'd prefer not to do smaller sizes We have to see where they are used. And I prefer to create all the sizes because of the future can be tricky. Larger sizes could be needed. also keep in mind that for the reconnection animation it needs another 33 icons! Correct. Maybe we take these all down for now and you put up thoughts on the Discussions page as this needs further thought. Actually I would like to know your ETA for breathe, so that i could work around it. :P ETA as in what? Being done? That will be quite some time off. 1.0 will be when we reach parity with the FreeDesktop spec. 2.0 will be parity with the GNOME set. Beyond that, I haven't given much thought. Breathe will be in the repos for Karmic. We'll be trying to get it in soon and we should be able to update more before Ubuntu feature freeze. As for the rest of your post all sounds fine. Just remember don't take shortcuts. Put in the detail and style where you can and it makes sense. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Folder/trash
Alex Lancey wrote: I'm going to play around with the breath trash and folder icons to see if I can improve them. Weird. I can't edit the images I downloaded. Is there some sort of lock on the breath svgs? Mostly locked in layers. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Drive-harddisk Icon
Merk wrote: What happened with icons for hard drives? I see it mentioned here: http://www.nabble.com/-Breathe--drive-removable-media-drive-harddisk-to22475404.html#a22475404 but don't see it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Status I had a rather unorthodox idea for drives, where it was a collection of the folder icons together, perhaps in a drawer. I don't like the idea of the icon being a drive because it gives the impression that different partitions, are different physical drives, which may or may not be the case. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Devices -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Drive-harddisk Icon
Merk wrote: Cory K.-3 wrote: Merk wrote: What happened with icons for hard drives? I see it mentioned here: http://www.nabble.com/-Breathe--drive-removable-media-drive-harddisk-to22475404.html#a22475404 but don't see it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Status I had a rather unorthodox idea for drives, where it was a collection of the folder icons together, perhaps in a drawer. I don't like the idea of the icon being a drive because it gives the impression that different partitions, are different physical drives, which may or may not be the case. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Devices I see, so what are these icons then? Ones that have be decided as final? The Status is either note or test. Please don't top-post. That section hasn't been utilized as much as I would have liked to. I'm looking at a bit of wiki clean-up soon to address this. As of now, all pages after Icons/ are what's currently /in/ the set. And it's final. Well, anything can be discussed but I would say it's what we're going with for now. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [BREATHE] Smileys
Micha Reischuck wrote: First of all: My Name is Micha Reischuck aka michote, from Germany and I'd like to help ;) mac_v wrote: Also i'll add the svg for that v3, so anyone can complete the whole set... :) I created a devil-grin smiley using mac_v's face-base and uploaded it to submissions. Does it fit? michote Fun. :) I'll let mac_v take the reigns on this for now. Let him decide. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] weather-clear, weather-clouds and weather-few-clouds
I agree the 1st were better but we should consider where the smaller sizes are used and design for that. So lets stick with the 1st direction. -Cory K -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder Icon
mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: It's because it lacks perspective. Exactly... i tried adding the perspective effect , but still havent figured it out how to trigger that effect...[every time it keeps saying it needs a second set of 4nodes or some other error!]tried reading the online manual but still didnt figure it out. tried asking in the the irc, but seems noone uses it :( ... hope i catch u when u are logged in... or is it easy to explain via mail? Oh I don't know either. Or I would have said how. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] icon requests (xdg folders)
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: After having requested the correct names to the icon naming spec guru, I'm requesting these icons: folder-documents folder-music folder-pictures folder-videos folder-downloads folder-publicshare folder-templates I think this is a good idea after we pick the final folder. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] SymLink Creating Infrastructure
Andrew wrote: Hi Cory, Sorry I meant the ppa, what you are assuming is that everyone will know how to take the debian packaging branch and create a package out of that, many people may not know how to do this (I have certainly just learned) and so I believe it is better to include the script as then people who don't know the in and outs of packaging can get the bleeding edge icons. Building the packaging branch (with bzr-buildpackage) is no more difficult than running the script. I'll put up a HOWTO soon. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder Icon
mac_v wrote: Andrew wrote: Wow I had never thought of that, I shall definitely try and do a skewed one, however I believe your first skewed one is quit good :-) i think mine still looks weird :( ... the only thing i was able to do was to skew it. It's because it lacks perspective. PS: @ *Cory* : when is the schedule date for the next breathe release? Nothing is set. Just development for now. I'll be un-freezing the packaging branch soon as Ken has made some nice adjustments. We should be focusing on the areas I outlined here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-May/010557.html Note, not 1 person responded. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
