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On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that I found for ubuntu.
First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really  
a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know I did!


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept




On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


is that sarcasm i smell?! :p

2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that I found for ubuntu.
First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's  
really a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know I did!


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Welcome to the team! ようこそ(welcome in Japanese)
There is a theme called long term vision by Brian that has the same  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept




On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:25 PM, Luis Ojeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




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On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


is that sarcasm i smell?! :p

2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that I found for ubuntu.
First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's  
really a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know I did!


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Welcome to the team! ようこそ(welcome in Japanese)
There is a theme called long term vision by Brian that has the same  
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No that's my breath (gotta lay down on the raw garlic)

Wait so, is there really a theme similar to the mock up that is  
currently being worked on or available?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept




On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of  
Ubunut would be a great hit.
BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with  
Ubuntu? Thanks


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that

 I found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's  
really a

 great concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know

 I did!

 Regards,
 Mike

 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
MacOS 9, I think.

Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
feedback and testing.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept



On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?


 That criticism is not helpful. Please see our guidelines about posting
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 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2007-December/004618.html

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top-posting. (sigh)




On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Ken Vermette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:08 PM, coz DS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 12:09 -0500, Matthew Nuzum wrote:

 We need to be careful to avoid putting too many barriers in place.
 Nothing stifles creativity and enthusiasm more than getting hit  
with a

 laundry list of rules and regulations you must comply with (well,
 except maybe getting caught up in a flame over them).

The chaos we have leads to nowhere.
Enthusiasm that burns so faintly it doesn't even survive being told
about rules that are strictly designed to make the live of mailing  
list
recipients easier is worth nothing, because that's all it will lead  
to:

nothing (but words).

 I'm always eager to hear new ideas and thoughts on this list.  
However

 I am really tired of rants about etiquette. Every day I deal with
 people who don't know that its best to trim posts or reply below the
 original message. Its not my job to educate them, I simply lead by
 example.

You cannot lead if no one follows.

What I'm tired about is single line replies combined with quoting  
whole
threads. How could one expect anything good regarding artwork, which  
is
much about communication, from people who are so ignorant about the  
work

others (would) have to invest to read their ... opinions?

 I would suggest that we've probably lost more opportunities to do
 something great as a team because of this top-posting fascism than
 probably any other issue we've addressed.

I take issue with you calling this fascism and regarding  
opportunities,

I point to my first paragraph.


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Hey guys,
Honestly is this top posting that big of a deal ?
I also use gmail and hit reply. I have no idea if it is top or  
bottom posting.

so let me know if this is top or bottom.
Maybe what needs to be done is ONE team in ONE area of the country  
and ONLY THAT team be responsible for ALL ubuntu artwork. At least  
unimportant art unrelated issues will be omitted.
It would save time with no mailing lists required, and no rules of  
posting to get in the way of the important stuff, no mailing list  
attachments etc etc etc.

What do you guys think?
 I vote that the ONLY art team be located in Pittsburgh , PA  USA.
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The point of having a community-accessible channel is the community  
part. Having a core art team somewhere eliminates the community,  
forces relocation and requires that everyone there be paid to be  
there. Even 2 artists at $10/hr for 8 hours a day would cost $160/ 
day, $800 for a 5 day week, $4000 a month, or $48,000 per year.


No self-respecting artist would work for that much, so they would  
have to be terrible artists to be that cheap. So suck it up, and  
unless you want to personally spend $48,000+ to not need to follow  
the top-posting rule... Just don't top post!!! As long as all the  
old messages are -above- the scrawl of your new messages, mission  
accomplished! If I can figure it out, anyone can.


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Why do we care about top posting again?


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[ubuntu-art] Oops

The send key in gmail is the same as draft

For art and desktop wise we just need everything integrated together. 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Oops



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 The send key in gmail is the same as draft

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 You just summed up 90% of the conversation on here.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Human Icons



On Aug 4, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Ryan Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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 There has been recent discussion on the mailing list of new icons  
 for Ubuntu. I'd like to post an example of an icon set Patrick  
 Niklaus and myself are working on. Its color palette is based mainly  
 on the brown and orange colors of Ubuntu.

 Its a work in progress and some of the icons in the picture are not  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mario Theme

2008-08-03 Thread shadowh511



On Aug 3, 2008, at 18:59, gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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I have to admit that would be cool, but you might want to try 8-bit  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mario Theme

2008-08-03 Thread shadowh511




On Aug 3, 2008, at 19:14, gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




03/08/08 19:06:45, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Aug 3, 2008, at 18:59, gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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I have to admit that would be cool, but you might want to try 8-bit
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kin Tonic - Metacity Theme

2008-07-31 Thread shadowh511

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Isaiah Heyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 13:10 +1200, tonic wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:13 -0500, Isaiah Heyer wrote:
   On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:59 +0300, Jimmy Angelakos wrote:
tonic wrote:
 I've done some work on the metacity theme for my variation of Kin.

 I've attached the metacity theme.

 cheers,
 Tonic
   
Not bad at all, however I found the orange window borders a bit too
striking. Also: on my machine it appeared to make Maximized titlebars
appear Inactive.
   
   
Keep up the good work,
Jimmy
   
   
  
   I modified it so that its more creamy.
   Also I changed the insensitive text to make it easier to tell
   active and inactive windows apart.
 
  I wonder how much peoples opinions  of the various ideas around here
  have been skewed by the different colour reproduction characteristics of
  their monitors?
 
  Anyway I've fixed some problems and taken away a little of the
  eye-popping orange vibrancy in the focused decoration. I've also changed
  the unfocused text colour to a paler colour, thanks Isaiah Heyer.
 
 
  enjoy,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where is userchrome.CSS stored?

2008-07-29 Thread shadowh511






On Jul 28, 2008, at 4:32 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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I think it's... ~/.mozilla/{default}/chrome/userChrome.css but  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human 2 .deb





On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:00 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 man shadowh511 - peoples just ask here for  * or for ..other *.. ;)
 being a discussion list they had all rights to do that and it's normal
 to be that way.

 for example Kim told us about the progress of his theme. Which are
 interested in emerald aspect of life,  will test new the new deb and
 will put here their opinions regarding the * emerald problem.

 Peoples that are are not interested in emerald themes ...will go on
 without disturb the others ... so what's the problem ??

 I don't understand what's your reason to respond / speak that way

 2008/7/27 Nicholas Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well, you don't have to use it, but emerald certainly is somewhat  
 more
 powerful than GDM .


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 this might sound like a stupid question, but why have we switched to
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I personally reccomend not using emerald because it drinks memory like  
someone that just came out of a desert. (think sahara)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] variation of Kin styling





On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:29 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been dabbling with my own variation on the Kin styling

 http://picasaweb.google.com/ghatanothoa/CurrentProjects/photo#5227945564509952210

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I got 404'd

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Re: [ubuntu-art] variation of Kin styling





On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been dabbling with my own variation on the Kin styling

 http://picasaweb.google.com/ghatanothoa/CurrentProjects/photo#5227945564509952210


 I got 404'd


 odd :(

 attached it since its small enough anyway.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human 2 .deb





On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:48 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ok,

 now just imagine that I can't observe that.
 Emerald works OK - no memory / CPU overloaded.

 CPU is about 1 to 5 % with Emerald ..the same with Metacity


 2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




 On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:00 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 man shadowh511 - peoples just ask here for  * or for ..other *.. ;)
 being a discussion list they had all rights to do that and it's  
 normal
 to be that way.

 for example Kim told us about the progress of his theme. Which are
 interested in emerald aspect of life,  will test new the new deb and
 will put here their opinions regarding the * emerald problem.

 Peoples that are are not interested in emerald themes ...will go on
 without disturb the others ... so what's the problem ??

 I don't understand what's your reason to respond / speak that way

 2008/7/27 Nicholas Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well, you don't have to use it, but emerald certainly is somewhat
 more
 powerful than GDM .


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 this might sound like a stupid question, but why have we  
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 I personally reccomend not using emerald because it drinks memory  
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 It uses more memory per window than metacity


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Please imagine you are running emerald on a system optimized for vista

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Re: [ubuntu-art] variation of Kin styling





On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:25 AM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 The new maximize, minimize and close buttons are inspired, nothing
 like anything I have ever seen before, Far better than anything that
 Steve Jobs has produced (Huge Compliment). How far away is an
 implementation, can it be done with metacity and any of the current
 gtk engines?

 Mick

 Not too long to do. The image was actually a screenshot with the  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] variation of Kin styling






On Jul 28, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Michael Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:





2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been dabbling with my own variation on the Kin styling

 
http://picasaweb.google.com/ghatanothoa/CurrentProjects/photo#5227945564509952210


 I got 404'd


 odd :(

 attached it since its small enough anyway.

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The new maximize, minimize and close buttons are inspired, nothing  
like anything I have ever seen before, Far better than anything that  
Steve Jobs has produced (Huge Compliment). How far away is an  
implementation, can it be done with metacity and any of the current  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human 2 .deb






On Jul 28, 2008, at 5:10 AM, Michael Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:48 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ok,

 now just imagine that I can't observe that.
 Emerald works OK - no memory / CPU overloaded.

 CPU is about 1 to 5 % with Emerald ..the same with Metacity


 2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




 On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:00 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 man shadowh511 - peoples just ask here for  * or for ..other  
*.. ;)

 being a discussion list they had all rights to do that and it's
 normal
 to be that way.

 for example Kim told us about the progress of his theme. Which are
 interested in emerald aspect of life,  will test new the new deb  
and

 will put here their opinions regarding the * emerald problem.

 Peoples that are are not interested in emerald themes ...will go  
on

 without disturb the others ... so what's the problem ??

 I don't understand what's your reason to respond / speak that way

 2008/7/27 Nicholas Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well, you don't have to use it, but emerald certainly is somewhat
 more
 powerful than GDM .


 On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:05 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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 It uses more memory per window than metacity


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Optimized for Vista = Multicore CPU and 4 gigs of ram hmmm how  
does that make emerald which you claim to be a resource hog less  
appropriate on a system optimized for a resource hog?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups

On Jul 28, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Mario Viviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Il giorno lun, 28/07/2008 alle 15.23 +0200, Duncan Austin ha scritto:

New batch, I tried to get everyones ideas in here. The only thing I
did differently from the suggestions was the buttons, the gray
background to them just made it all feel more solid.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_kith_r2.png
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_clouds_r2.png
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_rocks_r2.png
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_trnthtfrnupsddwn_r2.png

aaand... The development SVG. One thing about the SVG is that it's -
very- rough.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kin_Intrepid?action=AttachFileamp;do=getamp;target=kin_piano_rev2.svg

How about something different for the buttons, since we're being
distinctive?

Mockup here:

http://www.readitsideways.com/kin_piano_grass_buttons.png

Duncan

Quite difficult to make them work, but i think it can be done. In
Emerald it's easier than in metacity, so maybe someone can try
making a working candidate for them.. I think they're cool and
original, but thinking about usability i have some doubts...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human 2 .deb

2008-07-27 Thread shadowh511

this might sound like a stupid question, but why have we switched to emerald?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups

2008-07-27 Thread shadowh511

fight coporate designs with home-brewed eye-candy :)


On 7/27/08, Mario Viviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Il giorno dom, 27/07/2008 alle 15.42 +0200, Nicholas
 Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII) ha scritto:
 Now THIS is what I've been looking for in a new Ubuntu theme.
 Beautiful work, keep it up, and let's hope it's noticed!



 On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Duncan Austin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 2008/7/26 Ken Vermette [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 I'm not entirely sure about the direction Kin and Kith
 are taking, especially with the whole OSX smackdown -
 so I'm trying something new with the themes, posting
 mockups of the new directions the theme could go
 flailing into. When I hit something half-decent, I'm
 going to develop it similarly to Kith/Kin, but I'd
 like to know I'm getting warmer first. If you post
 links to other themes, I'll try to incorperate what
 you like, wether I personally like it or not!

 Below are with different backgrounds...

 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_kith.png

 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_grass.png

 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_leaf.png

 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_rocks.png

 With buttons...

 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_btns.png

 The main difference is that I've broken the slab, and
 made the outer rim outline protrude even farther from
 the block while making it more subtle. I've also
 switched to gray for the window contents.

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 brilliant. This is well on the way to challenging Mac, IMO.
 And it's not a copycat. If we go in this direction then the
 first words I say when showing someone Ubuntu for the first
 time will no longer have to be don't worry, it doesn't have
 to look like this

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 It would be great if Ken can make available the svg's or the png's that
 he used making his mockup. Thay can be used starting developing some
 candidates GTK made using different engines like Murrine, Clearlooks or
 Aurora.. It's almoust August so I think we can focus on coding
 somethig...

 However, great mockups, it's original and different from OSX and
 Windows, we can give Ubuntu a real unique appearance!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups

2008-07-27 Thread shadowh511

sorry, basic html gmail is very bad about top-posting

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Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups

2008-07-26 Thread shadowh511

this idea+the bar that brian is describing=perfection IMHO

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Re: [ubuntu-art] I made a few fixes

2008-07-20 Thread shadowh511



Don't be a hater plz

On Jul 19, 2008, at 5:15 PM, michael miller  
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 I made a few fixes to the development version of the new default  
 theme. I fixed some color consistency issues. Tell me what you think.
 Gelatin_enhanced.tar.gz
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Can you reattach the image in the jpg format plz? My iPod cannot read  
your attachment, espically if it is a svg.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu-Title font

2008-07-18 Thread shadowh511

That is a SWEET bug. Where to file is my question

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Jan Claeys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Op woensdag 16-07-2008 om 22:37 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Justin
 Dugger:
 I'm not saying that we should necessarily override these, but we
 should at least understand them, accept that which is good and  
 improve
 that which can be improved.

 Some of your remarks might be caused by rendering issues, some  
 might be
 because he thinks they make the font better.  I guess only he can  
 answer
 that though...  :)

 (He's a professional typeface designer, so his reasons for these  
 changes
 might be sound--except for 0  O looking the same maybe).

 Here's the thing -- we don't have to worry about stepping on artist's
 toes or hurting feelings.  I'm sure the narrowing strokes and others
 are intentional. But are they better?

 But as things stand, he has his font and Ubuntu ships something else.
 The license should mean anyone who disagrees is free to walk away, and
 anyone who likes it is free to borrow some or all of it.  (I should
 mention the ambiguous nature of font design rights, but I'm hardly an
 IP lawyer).  I'm honored that a professional took the time to
 demonstrate his talents with this font; the mark of a professional in
 any field is being open to review.

 More productively, does anyone else get blanks when loading the
 current font into FontForge?

 Steps I take to reproduce:

 1. Install FontForge from universe:
  sudo apt-get install fontforge

 2. Download the source package to ttf-ubuntu-title
 apt-get source ttf-ubuntu-title

 3. Open the FontForge .sfd:
 fontforge ttf-ubuntu-title-0.3/Ubuntu-Title.sfd

 4. Note the lack of glyphs.

 5. Open the .ttf instead and see wonderous glyphs ready for editing.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kith Intrepid

2008-07-13 Thread shadowh511

Look at my sig!


shadowh511

Please don't complain about top-posting, I'm typing from an iTouch.

On Jul 13, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Klaus Bitto [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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 Also, on a side note, apologies for the top-posting, I didn't  
 realize I was doing it, tell me if this message top-posts (I'm  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Quick question for the WIKI regarding the range of what constitutes a theme

2008-07-10 Thread Shadowh511

Brian, I think that your guidelines should be posted as an attachment  
to the wiki page.


Please dont be top-posting Nazis on me, I'm on my iPod touch.

shadowh511

On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



From: Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi,

 So far, I have written up a very narrow, specific list of visual  
parameters
 for a theme of the type one would download from Gnome-Looks.   
However, I was
 really hoping this make-over thing would also include some UI  
changes as
 well.  In my write-up to the Art Team wiki, should I leave out  
all my UI
 hopes and dreams?  Barring the key-hole arrows I had mentioned  
earlier, as

 those are to be part of the nautilus window itself.

 Thanks,
 Brian Fleeger

Anything and everything is appreciated. It all depends on what the  
art

team decides on, and most importantly, what is possible theme wise.

Okay -- I typed up my design design parameters (with a big chunk  
directly stolen from New Wave's guidelines) and posted them to the  
art team WIKI page.  I did not include *all* my user interface  
suggestions, because I know for a fact that many of my ideas are not  
implementable in so short a time.


Let me know if you want/need more concept art.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Quick question for the WIKI regarding the range of what constitutes a theme

2008-07-10 Thread Shadowh511


Upload a pdf


shadowh511

On Jul 10, 2008, at 5:22 AM, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



shadowh511
Brian, I think that your guidelines should be posted as an  
attachment to the wiki page.


Sure, but how do I do that?  Do you mean like a sub-wiki page, or  
upload a PDF?


Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] How to provide more alternate wallpapers without influencing CD size requirements

2008-07-07 Thread Shadowh511




Sent from my iPod

On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Hi all,

This is an idea I had to provide users with more alternate  
wallpapers without influencing the install CD's footprint.  If this  
is too off-topic for an art-team posting, please let me know and  
direct me to where this idea does belong.  At least it is  
tangentially related to Ubuntu's art experience.


In addition to providing a couple extra default alternate  
wallpapers, Canonical could host a special wallpaper repository the  
same way it does with synaptic and install/uninstall.


Scenario: Grandma May is using her Ubuntu for the first time and  
wants to change the wallpaper.  She right clicks the desktop, sees  
change wallpaper, and clicks through.  After seeing there are only  
4 or 5 alternates (I am still optimistic), she notices the Get More  
Ubuntu Wallpapers button in the bottom right-hand corner of the  
nautilus window.  (if granny didn't have an internet connection, the  
box would be grayed out and unclickable)  She clicks it and is  
connected to a repository of pre-selected Ubuntu art works.  In the  
repo, she sees small icons, and can mouse-over/single click to see  
larger previews.  After checking the boxes for the wallpapers she  
wants, Grammy clicks Install Wallpapers and is done.  Users could  
happily choose from hundreds of specially chosen backgrounds which  
have been selected for their color/composition to go well with the  
new Ubuntu default theme, instead of googling for hours for free  
wallpapers.  Backgrounds could be arranged by topic, with options  
like Select All Nature Wallpapers, etc.


Canonical could thereby 1) redefine the user experience, 2) gain  
more control over Ubuntu's aesthetic appeal, and 3) streamline the  
CD install image all in one swoop.


Is this a good idea/something that could be passed on to relevent  
parties?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] How to provide more alternate wallpapers without influencing CD size requirements

2008-07-07 Thread Shadowh511



Sent from my iPod

On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:58 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brian Fleeger wrote:
 Actually, since it would be hosted by Canonical as opposed to Gnome,
 this would not be a fork.  Gnome gets used by many distros, but only
 Canonical would want to control their unique user experience.
 Therefore it would only be appropriate for such a feature to be
 Ubuntu-specific, i.e. down-stream.

 Incorrect. If the idea is to add things (a button or what have you) to
 an app for users to click on that's a code fork. Staying as close to
 upstream is always the name of the game.

 A add-om package in the repos is the way to go. Trick is, letting  
 people
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Re: [ubuntu-art] // successful use of dark colours: 2 examples //

2008-07-04 Thread shadowh511

I think we need to have both a bright theme for newbies and a darker theme
for the more experienced

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?

2008-07-03 Thread shadowh511

I agree with the screensavers, half of them just fail
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Font suggestions

2008-07-02 Thread shadowh511

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 For what it is worth, I have seen Android's simplified and traditional
 Chinese (Mandarin) fonts, and they were beautiful/extremely clear (I am a
 Mandarin linguist by profession).


That's great!

Ubuntu is all about having everyone being able to use it, and this might
help push ubuntu onto shelves!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello

2008-06-30 Thread shadowh511

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, JMMING Hackers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 As I climb the drawings I've done for the distro code name ibex intrepid?

 I made several drawings that are striking.

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as i climb the drawings?
can you please use babelfish to translate that message into english please?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision (LTV) concept posted -- anyone want to help?

2008-06-23 Thread shadowh511

yes, a launchpad page is a good idea.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread shadowh511

how about you can move the bar around?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] First Code for Clear!

2008-06-20 Thread shadowh511

agpth, the 8th time today I got rickrolled!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Clear Intrepid

2008-06-13 Thread shadowh511

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah I do need help! I have one guy who is willing so far, and he is a
 genius...
 I think I will leave the icon theme up to every one else. I just dont like
 anything out there...
 Oh and the pictures of this look awful. I cant get a good export out of the
 svg... I will work on getting better PNG's of this mockup.

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Have you tried to import the files into inkscape?  Inkscape does the svg's
that you see as the human icons!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Final Version of the Clear Mockup

2008-06-12 Thread shadowh511

This theme just keeps on getting better!

I would think you would have to use an engine like xl_cheeselooks though.

I also like your idea for the main menu, It should have your name next to
it, or incorporated somewhere!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 36, Issue 9

2008-06-09 Thread shadowh511

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Conn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:26 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While on the topic of sounds, is it possible to have a sound play during
 the usplash screen?


 I would imagine not, since usplash loads before the ALSA kernel modules.
 Perhaps you could beep the internal PC speaker ;).

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so like beep beep-beep-beep beep?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-06-09 Thread shadowh511

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:23 AM, fruchtschwert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 13:24 +0300 schrieb Anton Kerezov:
  В 15:40 -0300 на 07.06.2008 (сб), spg76 написа:
   I just upload a new revision of the icon theme to Launchpad.
   It have a few new icons and I change the actions icons to the previous
 version.
   Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to work on the theme for some time
   (I'm very busy with my job right now plus I'm moving to a new
   apartment in a couple of weeks). It would be great if somebody else
   could take over the theme.
   When I get time, I be glad to collaborate with the team.
   Sorry for the inconvenience.
   Regards.
 
  Ok have your work and moving out done and then you will continue to
  contribute. If someone (Martin?) is interested in developing icons he is
  welcomed to do so and share his progress trough LP.
 
  The new Evolution icon is great! Btw is it possible a script to be made
  to make a png from svg in different sizes (22x22, 256x256 ... )? That
  would be very useful for automation of the icon creation process.
 
  Anton
 
 


 Since I'm writing my thesis now, my time to develop the icon theme is
 very limited. Also my graphic-design- and inkscape-skills are very
 poor .. Maybe I can contribute an icon from time to time, but then I've
 got it mixed up from various old ones :-)

 Still, my categories-icons are not all showing up correctly, since I
 don't know how to rename or symlink them. Would be great, if somebody
 could help.

 And I would also want to change the bookmarks-icon which appears in
 the places-menu, when you've got more than five bookmarks in there. The
 existing one is ugly as hell. Don't know where to copy that, too.


 For converting a bunch of svgs to pngs I used the following script I
 found on the net (the number after -w is the width of the pngs):

 for i in *.svg; do inkscape -f $i -e ${i%%.svg*}.png -w 22; done

 Probably this can be tuned to create folders and move the files
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Having fun with installer slideshow!

2008-06-06 Thread shadowh511

The slideshow is a good idea.  Vista has one, but even then people are still
confused.  we should also have a start here menu item in System
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Re: [ubuntu-art] murrine in intrepid

2008-06-06 Thread shadowh511

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi Conn,
 
  On Friday 30 May 2008 00:29:07 Conn wrote:
  Ken,
 
  Here's my first attempt at modifying the new theme. Screenshot and
  gtkrc attached.
 
  Some of the changes (I don't remember them all):
  1. Readded toolbar and menubar separators
  2. Darkened menubar to 90% of background
  3. Darkened active notebook tabs
  4. Darkened menu background to 90% of background
  5. Changed base colour to something closer to the dark brown background
  6. Changed radio and checkbar colour to display as white, and
  highlight to base colour
  7. Removed old hack to fix metacity's colour (i.e. the mix
  statements I put in the code after finding the Gnome Appearances bug).
  I assume the metacity theme will change drastically, so it's best to
  remove the hack to avoid future confusion.
  8. Selected items in menus now display white text
  9. Added new murrine engine parameters colorize_scrollbar and
  sliderstyle, and enabled both. I removed depreciated
  scrollbar_color, and note that the engine is warning us that
  hilight_ratio is deprecated, so we may need to remove those lines
  later.
  10. Changed selected item text to white
  11. Probably more things I forgot...
 
  I agree with pretty much everything you say :-) I began hacking on the
 gtk
  color definitions last night as well. One of the challenges is going to
 be
  creating work arounds for dark color themeing bugs in specific apps.
 
  Some observations for the future:
  1. Perhaps we need to change the orange colour, perhaps it would be
  better to be darkened.
  2. I set the nautilus-location colour simply to @selected_bg_color.
  For Human-Murrine I used a mix statement to lighten the orange a
  little so that it blended better with murrine's glaze, but it won't
  work well with the new colourscheme. We can change this later,
  especially after any changes to the selected background (i.e. orange)
  colour.
 
  The bright orange seems out of place on a dark background. I think we
  would be
  better off going with something less contrasty.
 
  3. Of course, the metacity theme doesn't look very nice anymore. I
  suggest we adopt a similar theme to UbuntuStudio, but use a darker
  brown rather than black. Oh, we could arrange it so that the inactive
  window is 90% shaded to the background colour, so it will blend with
  the darkened menubar - that would be a nice effect.
 
  That's all I can think of for now!
  Conn
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] ibex idea

2008-06-03 Thread shadowh511

all I can say is wow, that's amazing, but it reminds me of the debian
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Is There an Official Palette We Have to Stick With?

2008-06-02 Thread shadowh511

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 В 18:44 -0500 на 01.06.2008 (нд), Salane Ashcraft написа:
  To Ubuntu Artists-
 
 
  Is there any real input from the developers, Shuttleworth, or anyone
  about this? Do we even know if there will be a drastic theme
  replacement? I have seen one email from a dev and a video where Mark
  says we wants and interface change, but what is being done? we can sit
  here and create themes and mockups, but will this even matter?
 

 Kenneth said it.

 I have a question concerning all the theme teams: If we have a theme
 that is not a mockup, how can we make it ship with Ubuntu for testing?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Is There an Official Palette We Have to Stick With?

2008-06-02 Thread shadowh511

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I made a palette (http://sinecera.de/ubuntu_palette_0.1.gpl) to start
 testing.
  To use it put it in your .gimp/palettes/ or .inkscape/palettes/ dir.
 

 Awesome! Thanks a bunch, both for the palette's content and also for
 demonstrating how to make a palette for inkscape!

 Since this is open source, I'll contribute a patch :-)

 --- ubuntu_palette_0.1.gpl  2008-06-02 10:06:49.0 -0500
 +++ intrepid_palette_0.1.gpl2008-06-02 10:07:26.0 -0500
 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
  GIMP Palette
 -Name: Newbuntu
 +Name: Ubuntu Intrepid
  #
  049 000 000  MainWarm_1
  085 032 011  MainWarm_2

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread shadowh511

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 В 17:17 +0200 на 28.05.2008 (ср), fruchtschwert написа:

  first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
  navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
 
  Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey folders in the
  background. The problem is, that not all of them are displayed.
  For example, once after a restart, the office and games-icons appeared
  for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe someone can
  tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename the icons?
 
  Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..
 
  @Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same offset-problem for
  me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My corrected one: see link
  below :-)
 
  I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the rhythmbox-icon, too,
  but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows better than
  me .. ;-)
 
  I also would propose changing the colors for the logout-screen icons
  again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too dominant. I
  would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.
 
  You can find my proposals here:
 
  http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz

 I have this offset problem too (as you already know) but can somebody
 else confirm it?

 About the cd burner icon I think it looks like we are making something
 toxic. Wouldn't it be better if it had blue (or red) laser beam burning
 some black circles in the disc? The RB icon is good!

 Now about the gnome-log-out icon: It really is too distracting and we
 should use different color and remove that gloss from the arrow as I
 proposed earlier (I know the icon is updated in the scalable folder but
 the new version is not visible in the exit screen).

 The hibernate icon should be something else because right now the sleep
 icon has to have Zzz s. An idea for hibernate is something like stoptime
 or a kind of desktop bookmark even time freeze ...


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread shadowh511

ZZZ, and the hibernate icon could be a cartoonish hibernating bear.
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 В 09:49 -0700 на 28.05.2008 (ср), shadowh511 написа:
 
 
  On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  В 17:17 +0200 на 28.05.2008 (ср), fruchtschwert написа:
 
   first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great
  brown
   navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
  
   Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey
  folders in the
   background. The problem is, that not all of them are
  displayed.
   For example, once after a restart, the office and
  games-icons appeared
   for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe
  someone can
   tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename
  the icons?
  
   Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..
  
   @Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same
  offset-problem for
   me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My corrected
  one: see link
   below :-)
  
   I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the
  rhythmbox-icon, too,
   but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows
  better than
   me .. ;-)
  
   I also would propose changing the colors for the
  logout-screen icons
   again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too
  dominant. I
   would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.
  
   You can find my proposals here:
  
   http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz
 
 
  I have this offset problem too (as you already know) but can
  somebody
  else confirm it?
 
  About the cd burner icon I think it looks like we are making
  something
  toxic. Wouldn't it be better if it had blue (or red) laser
  beam burning
  some black circles in the disc? The RB icon is good!
 
  Now about the gnome-log-out icon: It really is too distracting
  and we
  should use different color and remove that gloss from the
  arrow as I
  proposed earlier (I know the icon is updated in the scalable
  folder but
  the new version is not visible in the exit screen).
 
  The hibernate icon should be something else because right now
  the sleep
  icon has to have Zzz s. An idea for hibernate is something
  like stoptime
  or a kind of desktop bookmark even time freeze ...
 
 
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 Then what the sleep icon will be?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread shadowh511

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:50 PM, François Degrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 2008/5/28 fruchtschwert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 16:17 +0300 schrieb Anton Kerezov:
  В 14:56 +0200 на 25.05.2008 (нд), Mario Viviani написа:
   Mario V.
Il giorno sab, 24/05/2008 alle 20.54 -0300, spg76 ha scritto:
2008/5/24 Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I've made some changes to a dozen of icons (I attach a pack). The
 difference is in color contrast and in removed gloss form some
 icons.
 What do you think?

Hi, I think they look good. The one that I like the most it's the
mail-send icon.
 
  The restart icon is not as good as I wanted. If you include them please
  leave it aside.
 
   
 P.S.
 I'm still wondering how change or remake the reload icon. Any
 ideas?

 Anton

I can make a few alternatives if you want and then we can choose
 which
way is the best.
Also, I've made alternate versions of some actions icons. You can
check them out at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebastianporta/tags/actions/ and you
 can
see it on a screenshot at
http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo1dy8.png
 
  The icons are good but I think they stand a little bit unfinished. Try
  to use outline wit some matching color (not black) so that the user can
  better visually see where the icon ends.
 
  When you are done upload the changes ;)
 
  Anton
 
 
 
 


 Hey,

 first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
 navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..


 Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't like them at all. They have nothing in
 common with the folders for example (the gradient is far different) -- the
 first ones we made, adapted directly from Elementary Icons were much more
 adapted to the theme, imo. Also, they don't have a common gradient while it
 is obvious that the light should come from the same point. And I don't see
 the point with brown; everything else is gray or orange.

 Sorry for the bad comment... My goal is only to have a really consistent
 theme at the end.

 Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Beta Version of the Clear Mockup

2008-05-27 Thread shadowh511

Salane, your mockup is awesome.
What we need to do is push Ubuntu into the future.  We can do this be
following some of Salane's ideas.  The idea of having your username
right next to the menu button is genius.  The userswitch applet could go
right there.

Also, the File manager does look a little safari-ish, but that is because
everything is unified.  THe secret to enticing new users is not to have a
million features, it is to pick a set, work really hard on them, and make it
unified.

One example of where things are unified is Konqueror.  It is both a web
browser and file manager.  with work, It can be expanded to also be a media
player, document editor, etc etc.

Why have many when you can have one
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Re: [ubuntu-art] flat icon/dark theme inspiration

2008-05-21 Thread shadowh511

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 Hi, I saw this and felt inspired:
 http://www.htc.com/

 Note that when you look at the interface you see the content - the
 picture, the calendar, the weather, etc. But if you want to see how
 much battery you have left it's easy to spot and very clear. The icons
 and window decoration get out of your way.

 I like how inactive icons at the bottom are grey and active ones are
 white. The new email icon has a green emblem indicating that it's
 something you're probably interested in. Presumably different colours
 are available if instead of notice the icon needs to communicate
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I'm not trying to swat you down here, but I think that what you are saying
is good, but it reminds me of a certian unix-based os and their tablet
device.  Apple is known for breaking the mold, we can do that as well, it
just takes one good idea, then we have the Redmond Renegades copying us.
I was thinking lately about how the desktop should look (I was bored) and I
had a great idea:  There would be an option to have a transparent to-do
list/mail-checker/calendar thing on the desktop.  If you requested it, it
would say New Mail Message when one arrived or Coffee with Alice coming
up in five minutes when there was a coffee with Alice coming up.  Apple
started the idea of the icons hinting at you when there was a new event, but
we need to take it to the next level.

0_0 I just spent 20 minutes writing an email!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] flat icon/dark theme inspiration

2008-05-21 Thread shadowh511

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Hi, I saw this and felt inspired:
  http://www.htc.com/
 
  I'm not trying to swat you down here, but I think that what you are
 saying
  is good, but it reminds me of a certian unix-based os and their tablet
  device.

 Interestingly, that computer is running Windows mobile edition.

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[ubuntu-art] Please, lets just get to work!!!

2008-05-01 Thread shadowh511

Come on!
Have you seen the mail threads recently?

WHAT DOES TOP POSTING HAVE TO DO WITH ART???

We need to be focused on art, not etiquette.

i'll lead a theme team!!!

just say you want to join on the mailing list, and i'll be sure to add you
to my google docs sharing.

Last night, I made a hardy ipod touch theme, which i can share on request.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Please, lets just get to work!!!

2008-05-01 Thread shadowh511

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/TooHuman
that is what I am thinking of for intrepid.

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 shadowh511 wrote:
  Come on!
 
  Have you seen the mail threads recently?
 
  WHAT DOES TOP POSTING HAVE TO DO WITH ART???
 
  We need to be focused on art, not etiquette.
 
  i'll lead a theme team!!!

 Ok. So where's your wiki link to the concept you are thinking of? People
 should see what you are trying to bring to life before they hop on board.

 And BTW, this kind of constant emailing/chat really should be done on
 IRC. I know alot of people are hating the massive amount of email
 lately. IRC is best for conversations.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Overriding Metacity gconf settings.

2008-05-01 Thread shadowh511

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can one override button_layout in Metacity with settings in a
 metacity-theme-1.xml?

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do you mean caption button placement?
I think that's possible

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[ubuntu-art] Really, we need to just get started

I was thinking recently about an email that was sent out.  The sender
(forgot who it was) listed some good theme mockups.  I know, for a fact,
that we can have all of the themes be existing in intrepid.  As part of the
add/remove programs, we add one more listing, Theme Expansion Pack.  by
having a theme expansion pack, we can add a lot of themes to each release.
 There will be no more It can't fit on the CD stuff, and have everybody's
theme idea make it in.  We could have done a lot more with hardy than we
did, and in intrepid, we need to bring ubuntu to its roots.  Lots of
eye-pleasing themes.  Colorful backgrounds that help us spread our message
of Humanity To All.  We are the art team of the Humanity To All
Linux Distribution.  We need to deliver our promise to the users.
Union was an amazing idea from the beginning, so was TooHuman.  We can give
our users as many themes as we can make.

And no, I am not a motivational speaker.

Let's get going,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Really, we need to just get started



 Maybe you ought to reconsider that decision :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme subteams

yes, but i had an idea for a rejected themes package.  The desktop would
use human, and if you installed this package Extra Themes with
a description like Here, you can use the themes that didn't make the cut
and give the user a set of instructions on how to apply the new themes.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] STOP TOP POSTING!!!

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:21 PM, sylvain marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WERY GOOD... I AGREE WITH YOU !
 A FORUM PLEASE !

 2008/4/30 François Degrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Cory K. a écrit :
   Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote:
  
   2008/4/30 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  :
  
   Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote:
2008/4/30 saltedlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  :
   
ARE YOU ALL BLIND OR WHAT??? OR ARE YOU STUPID???
IF YOU ARE NOT THEN
   
STOP TOP POSTING!!!
   
IS THIS SUCH A HARD THING TO DO???
   
STOP TOP POSTING!!!
   
I REALY DON'T CARE WHAT EMAIL CLIENT YOU USE; JUST DO WHAT
   YOU HAVE TO
DO TO POST AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MESSAGE!!!
   
STOP TOP POSTING!!!
   
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http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
  
   Oh please. Don't go trying to invoke the toothless COC where
  you're
   being just as rude by continuing to ignore the requests of the
   majority
   of the list.
  
   -Cory \m/
  
  
   I think that this is because english is not my language, I still
  don't
   know what does top posting means. I do always the same I did to
   post, reply at gmail or from Apple Mail.
  
   You should consider that if I've always posted this way I don't know
   if I'm doing something bad, so this is the reason why I haven't asked
   anybody what top posting means. Now it seems that I'm doing that,
  so
   please explain what it means.
  
   Anyway, I don't think that I should be stupid for that.
   --
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   Don't reply with your post above someone elses.
  
   Best example is:
  
   A: Top-posting.
   Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
  
   -Cory \m/
  
   PS: I'm moving your text when I reply.
  
  
 
  Top posting or down posting is a question that arises only when we
  misuse the tools we have; in that case, we use a *MAILING LIST* for
  something that requires a *FORUM*.
 
  Therefore, if God and the Angels of the Paradise can hear me pray,
  please someone set up a forum where discussions could be easily read and
  ideas easily tracked. Amen.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] STOP TOP POSTING!!!

i found out something about gmail recently, it automatically gets rid of the
quoted text and replaces it with show quoted text
If more people used gmail, you would understand why it is easier to *GASP*
top-post, but the easiest way to bottom post in gmail is to erase
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme subteams

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:37 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Didn't I just say something to the same effect? Though I wouldn't put in
   the negative connotations in the descriptions.
 
  If they don't make the repo package, they could go on GNOME-look.
 
  -Cory \m/
 
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 yeah, but if the themes are on gnome-look, how is the average user
 supposed to know how to install them?
 I think that if the themes are rejected, they get packaged anyway, and the
 user is given instructions on how to use the themes (wiki page!!!)

 I have been using gnome-look a lot and i still get confused.  a ubuntu
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme subteams

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 shadowh511 wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:37 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Didn't I just say something to the same effect? Though I
  wouldn't put in
  the negative connotations in the descriptions.
 
  If they don't make the repo package, they could go on
 GNOME-look.
 
  -Cory \m/
 
 
  yeah, but if the themes are on gnome-look, how is the average user
  supposed to know how to install them?
 
  I think that if the themes are rejected, they get packaged anyway,
  and the user is given instructions on how to use the themes (wiki
  page!!!)
 
  I have been using gnome-look a lot and i still get confused.  a
  ubuntu client for gnome-look would be very nice.
 

 Most themes come in a .tar and you simple drop them in the theme
 manager. I really don't see why that's hard. In Windows you have to hack
 files to get it to use 3rd party themes and tons of people figure it
 out. The same people with the drive to them windows are smart enough to
 figure it out on linux. Your grandma doesn't change themes.

 
  by the way, what is mark shuttleworth's email?
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 But know, it's just gonna get forwarded to Ken who is already watching
 this list. :P

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That was close, I almost top-posted.
Ok, thanks for the insight about The God's, I mean Mark Shuttleworth's
ideas.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme subteams

I have a lot of free time, so, yeah, but let me warn you, I have no
experience in coding GTK themes, I can get everyone on track though.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So.

 Who's gonna step up and lead a team?

 Who has a vision?

 Who can pull something together?

 (and before anyone says something, I'm not trying to invoke Who
 himself) ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

What I meant was a simple checkbox.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

i'm making the idea in kommander right now, and I an making a Cancel button.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:20 AM, saltedlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 15:57 +0200, Klaus Bitto wrote:
  But even this would be regarded some kind of first-run app...
  Honestly, I never liked the Welcome to Windoze - have a tour around
  all the new bling!-dialogs.

 And if this is my 10,000 Ubuntu install do I really need this
 information?
 And what if I install Ubuntu for others, do I have to phone them and ask
 what theme do you want? Or maybe i'l email them this question, and
 they can email me the answer back.
 If anyone need a tour they can find help, but this is not about
 artwork... If you decide to make more themes for the user who would like
 to change the default one, do not be worried about if he will know that
 there are many themes, but if he will use any of them, because he might
 like none...

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[ubuntu-art] How to make a gtk theme

I would really love a link to a tutorial that explains how to make a gtk
theme, so I can get the elements themes drafted.

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 ..on or around Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:42:05PM +0200, Steph said:
  Hi guys,
 
  It seems I had a bug of the list and received ~50 of your message in a
  single digest. Here's what I think of :
 
  * The animated, live wallpaper : it'a good idea, as long as it doesn't
 use
  more than 5% of CPU or GPU (better), and if this is realized, we have to
  check if it's really that eye pleasant. Animation is cool, yes, but
  really unobtrusive.
  We could try to reproduce a feature of the  Sony Ericsson
  
 http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/s500i?cc=frlc=en
 S500I
  phone
 http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/s500i?cc=frlc=en
 ,
  wich changes its wallpaper along the day. My girlfriend has one, it's
 really
  beautiful, and not stressing at all.

 5% is way too much GPU or CPU consumption for a wallpaper IMO. moreso
 are you imagining 5% of the minimum target spec at the time of release?

 (it would be ironic that the wallpaper has an 'earthy' theme yet is
 itself the most energy expensive element of the UI when idle).

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/me laughedApple's osX has an animated wallpaper option.  you set an
animated gif as the backround.  Windows has their dreamscene (i tried it,
and it uses no more cpu power than windows vista uses for idling).  Maybe
our answer is in video files (get rid of the audio though) for more powerful
computers and gifs or a slideshow for older computers.  I know that the
latter is possible with Desktop Drapes
Hope that helps!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] How to make a gtk theme