Re: USB sticks used with ‘Startup Disk Creator’ not reusable?
Actually, I've never had a problem with a thumb drive that couldn't be fixed. There IS a problem with the partition table placed there at the factory format on some thumb drives. From memory, it was a bug with the way the original DOS programs did partition table formats. It wasn't a problem until FAT32, but for some reason Linux systems can have problems with drives that previously worked fine. It usually pops up after you format the partition. What I'd recommend is to use DD to write zeros to the first couple of KB. This will overwrite the partition table. You'll then need to recreate a FAT32 partition and format it. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=4K Change sdX to the device name for the unmounted thumb drive. Do NOT get this wrong because any device written to will be very difficult to recover if you haven't previously made a copy.The usual problem I came across was that the drive could not be accessed at all, even to partition or format until the partition table was erased. I've heard of similar problems to David's as well. If you don't want to mess around with DD (huge potential for disaster if you write nulls to the wrong drive) then you could try using the disks program, delete the partition table (make sure that gets written, maybe exit the program to commit the write) and then recreate a new compliant FAT32 partition. I've heard of that working, but of course is not possible in cases where the device can't be accessed or written to. I'll be interested to know this solves the problem, because it would mean that thumb drive manufacturers are still using a very, very, old spec. for partition tables. I pretty routinely wipe any new thumb drive and create my own partition, and like I said I've never had a problem with any thumb drive ever. Some of them are tiny ones that must be a couple of decades old that still get used to transfer a few files to another computer somewhere. Chris On Sunday, 30 June 2024 at 11:29:20 pm AEST, Chris Guiver wrote: G'day David > Should a USB stick that was used with ‘Startup Disk Creator’ be able to be >reformatted for everyday read/write work again? Yes, however USB thumb-drives are really just cheap media; built to a low price without any error checking, and they fail. I suspect your thumb-drive has failed; even if not the whole device, enough of it that the contents can no longer be changed. There are some USB drives which can be triggered to be RO (Read Only), but they are/were rare (more expensive) and usually have a somewhat disguised button/slide that prevents writing if the slider is in the protect mode. Your USB 'stick' could be one of these, but only someone seeing the device will be able to tell you (and they weren't common, so aren't often recognized) The write of an ISO to a thumb-drive does cause the image itself to be written as READ ONLY, but that is only to prevent corruption, and that RO cannot prevent a reformat; as its purpose is only to protect the image from CHANGE, nor erasure. Again, I think your USB flash/thumb-drive is just faulty... I'm throwing out 2-5 per year because they no longer can be trusted (I always DIFF or confirm a write to thumb-drive is perfect before I trust it, and those thumb-drives are failing my checks) It's a cheap consumable media, and every write to it can destroy it. Chris g. On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 11:01 PM David wrote: Hi folks In the past I had 20.04 LTS installed on an old laptop and when 22.04 LTS became available I used the application in Ubuntu called ‘Startup Disk Creator’ to write the new ISO image to a USB stick in order to do a clean install of 22.04 LTS. That process worked fine, the USB stick did the job fine. Earlier this year the laptop stopped working and I had it repaired professionally, new SSD instead of the hard drive. They put Windows onto it so that they could check things. I don’t have another Ubuntu machine on which to use ‘Startup Disk Creator’ again, so I’ll be looking for a Windows option for creating a USB for installing from. It was then that I examined the USB stick for the first time since I had used ‘Startup Disk Creator’ a couple of years back or so for the install of 22.04 LTS. I understood that ‘Startup Disk Creator’ had formatted the USB stick for its purposes, and figured that in Windows I could reformat it with FAT32 or exFAT in order to use the stick again for another purpose. Windows couldn’t format it, saying that the stick is ‘write-protected’. The IT Support staff at my workplace have not been able to remove the write-protection and get the stick usable again with any of their tools. They used some sort of partition manager tool, and tried via a Mac laptop too. It feels a bit like how people described non-reusable CDs and DVDs as beer-coasters in the past. Is this outcome something that
Re: USB sticks used with ‘Startup Disk Creator’ not reusable?
G'day David > Should a USB stick that was used with ‘Startup Disk Creator’ be able to be reformatted for everyday read/write work again? Yes, however USB thumb-drives are really just cheap media; built to a low price without any error checking, and they fail. I suspect your thumb-drive has failed; even if not the whole device, enough of it that the contents can no longer be changed. There are some USB drives which can be triggered to be RO (Read Only), but they are/were rare (more expensive) and usually have a somewhat disguised button/slide that prevents writing if the slider is in the protect mode. Your USB 'stick' could be one of these, but only someone seeing the device will be able to tell you (and they weren't common, so aren't often recognized) The write of an ISO to a thumb-drive does cause the image itself to be written as READ ONLY, but that is only to prevent corruption, and that RO cannot prevent a reformat; as its purpose is only to protect the image from CHANGE, nor erasure. Again, I think your USB flash/thumb-drive is just faulty... I'm throwing out 2-5 per year because they no longer can be trusted (I always DIFF or confirm a write to thumb-drive is perfect before I trust it, and those thumb-drives are failing my checks) It's a cheap consumable media, and every write to it can destroy it. Chris g. On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 11:01 PM David wrote: > Hi folks > > In the past I had 20.04 LTS installed on an old laptop and when 22.04 LTS > became available I used the application in Ubuntu called ‘Startup Disk > Creator’ to write the new ISO image to a USB stick in order to do a clean > install of 22.04 LTS. That process worked fine, the USB stick did the job > fine. > > Earlier this year the laptop stopped working and I had it repaired > professionally, new SSD instead of the hard drive. They put Windows onto it > so that they could check things. I don’t have another Ubuntu machine on > which to use ‘Startup Disk Creator’ again, so I’ll be looking for a Windows > option for creating a USB for installing from. > > It was then that I examined the USB stick for the first time since I had > used ‘Startup Disk Creator’ a couple of years back or so for the install of > 22.04 LTS. I understood that ‘Startup Disk Creator’ had formatted the USB > stick for its purposes, and figured that in Windows I could reformat it > with FAT32 or exFAT in order to use the stick again for another purpose. > Windows couldn’t format it, saying that the stick is ‘write-protected’. The > IT Support staff at my workplace have not been able to remove the > write-protection and get the stick usable again with any of their tools. > They used some sort of partition manager tool, and tried via a Mac laptop > too. > It feels a bit like how people described non-reusable CDs and DVDs as > beer-coasters in the past. > > Is this outcome something that ‘Startup Disk Creator’ is known for, or > have I just had bad luck? > > Should a USB stick that was used with ‘Startup Disk Creator’ be able to be > reformatted for everyday read/write work again? > > Cheers > David > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: wireless problem with upgrade to 20.04 LTS / and live DVD installation for 22.04 failing
> Can you recommend any sites or webpages that explain simply how to install > by putting the ISO file onto a USB stick, or how to create a partition and > get the ISO file into it and then run the installation? I'll provide the following links - https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#1-overview - https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-macos#1-overview - https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview Myself, and for a number of year(s) now (after wiping a drive array, and backup drive using `dd`) I nearly always just use mkusb - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb in fact a ISO written yesterday on this box (jammy daily of Lubuntu 22.04.5) was written with this command (after zsync to update the daily ISO) guiverc@d960-ubu2:/de2900/lubuntu_64$ dus jammy-desktop-amd64.iso and just following/answering various prompts... My comment was based on various support queries on users who've had issues with DVD media; such as https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/bug-failed-snap-daemon-in-lubuntu-22-04-lts-no-firefox-help-please/3246 and others like it. I just remember it taking a lot longer than USB media did, having many occasional problems, that didn't happen when when USB media was used; thus I assumed you didn't have working USB ports which why I mentioned the writing of ISOs to hard drive on old IBM thinkpad t43p etc. I would recommend using good branded USB media instead & save yourself the hassle. If the ISO is written/burnt to USB thumb-drive media, yes I'd expect it to be offered as a boot option using whatever key your device uses (the key varies on device significantly; and I have a couple of devices I don't use much in QA-testing as they're a pain to get thumb-drive media to boot with; where as others are dead easy). Do note - when you download an ISO, it sits as a 'data file' on your disk. If written to thumb-drive media as just a file on the thumb-drive (ie. data), it won't be bootable (unless you've made the thumb-drive bootable already with software that looks for what's on it & offers it as a menu etc). The ISO file is written to the thumb-drive so it's bootable with specific software; see links I provided earlier. Also note the USB ports don't show up, but your device's firmware will detect bootable USB media inserted & the media itself should appear if correctly written. I don't know about your wireless issue, but I suspect it's related to the kernel; which is why I talked about what kernel stack choice you used with other releases; ie. 20.04 using HWE has possibly only very recently upgraded itself to the 5.15 kernel for you meaning it's now on the same kernel as 22.04 has; thus I'd wonder if you received the same issue on 20.04? though if you were using the GA kernel stack with 20.04 you won't have had any issue as that remains on 5.4 My guess is your wifi issue (note: guess & I have no idea!) relates to the 5.15 kernel; and I've seen a few support queries relating to wifi in recent day(s), but wifi isn't an area that interests me so I tend to ignore them. My 'guess' is the issue would be the same if you clean installed, dirty installed, or release-upgraded to 22.04 - but that's just my (~guess) opinion. Chris (guiverc) On 7/2/22, David wrote: > Hi Chris > > thanks for your time. > > The laptop on which I have been using Ubuntu, since around 2013 (and the > laptop is older than that) is a Lenovo T400. It has working USB ports. > > The version of Ubuntu that I am trying to install is the version for desktop > PCs and laptops. > > You reckon it could well be to do with using optical media. > It sounds like you're suggesting installation from USB or from putting the > ISO file into a partition. > Can you recommend any sites or webpages that explain simply how to install > by putting the ISO file onto a USB stick, or how to create a partition and > get the ISO file into it and then run the installation? > > Should the USB ports show up as an option when I hit F12 at startup, the way > the optical drive does? > > D'you reckon there's a good chance that the wireless problem will be gone if > I were to do the online upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04? And is that as good as > doing a clean install of 22.04? > > Thank you > > Dave > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Chris Guiver wrote: >> G'day >> >> I'm involved with QA & in particular a flavor, if my background is >> helpful. >> >> You mention old hardware; I've used devices from 2003 and upwards in >> the QA; though i386 devices were not used beyond 19.04 except for >> respins of 18.04 (eg. 18.04.4 & 18.04.5) >> >>> Last wee
Re: wireless problem with upgrade to 20.04 LTS / and live DVD installation for 22.04 failing
G'day I'm involved with QA & in particular a flavor, if my background is helpful. You mention old hardware; I've used devices from 2003 and upwards in the QA; though i386 devices were not used beyond 19.04 except for respins of 18.04 (eg. 18.04.4 & 18.04.5) > Last week I decided to move up from 18.04 and tried the online Upgrade option > for the first time (instead of a clean install from a live disk). The upgrade > to 20.04 LTS completed, but I had no internet connection. I googled this and > saw info about something called Netplan You didn't say if you're talking about a desktop system (NetworkManager) or server system (Netplan). The mention of netplan implies you're asking about a server system? but it could also be your misunderstanding. Desktop systems use NetworkManager still; but it's best if you're specific & readers aren't having to guess. > So yesterday I burnt the 22.04 LTS ISO onto a brand-new rewritable DVD and > tried to do a clean install, held down F12 at start up, chose the optical > drive, selected “Try or Install Ubuntu” Here we get to potential problems... Changes were made starting with 20.10 that can have negative consequences for those using optical media (eg. DVD). The optical media is designed for sequential reading, but the media verification reads files on a file-by-file type basis, and timeouts can occur with optical drives which can can problems (failed to start issues; particularly with snap..) etc. Reboot & re-try, and it may work the next time, as beyond being very slow, it's somewhat problematic as it's hardware timeouts that cause the issue/failures. In my QA testing, I used some really old IBM Thinkpads that didn't have working (bootable) USB ports; thus I'd download/write the ISO to a drive partition, and use that instead of USB media (installing to another part of the disk for example). Yes the laptops actually had DVD drives; but it was far easier/faster/reliable to use hard-drive over optical media. You might want to consider that instead of optical media (I would and did!) There is a bug report that will mitigate some of the issues with optical/slow media but it's not yet available for 22.04 (it maybe available using 22.04.1 media but unclear yet; that's still a month away). But I'm warning you'll have complications with optical media as it's not the intended installation media for Ubuntu releases beyond 20.04. Some effort is made to ensure it works (why the bug I mentioned exists & is being tracked or 22.04.1), but it's not high priority as almost no users use optical media & development resources are limited. You gave no details as to what hardware stack you were using for each release; as Ubuntu 20.04 LTS if using a GA kernel stack uses 5.4 which differs greatly to 22.04 (5.15), but if using 20.04 with HWE you'll be using either 5.13 (20.04.4) or 5.15 (20.04.5 that's rolling out ~now so if fully upgraded you maybe using 22.04's kernel stack already on 20.04). You may find using alternate kernel stack (easy) helps, though as 22.04 is still ~young, both GA & HWE are on the same stack so no choices there exist yet. On older devices in QA; I found the kernel stacks made a big difference; and as both stacks can co-exist on the same device (unless certain closed-source kernel modules are being used; aka video drivers) they were an easy fix for some users who had issues & sought support (eg. 18.04 with HWE uses the same kernel stack as found with 20.04 using the GA stack.. thus if it works with 18.04+HWE, I'd expect no issues with 20.04+GA) Installations using optical media are for sure possible; they just aren't easy & multiple attempts maybe required before it works; at least that's what was found in QA; also they're very slow (esp. beyond 20.10 as already stated). I suggest avoiding using optical media for installs if you can. Chris g. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Update app not responding
On Saturday, 24 March 2018, 10:36:56 am AEST, Geoffrey Combes wrote: My Ubuntu 1604 updater is responding with the message "Failed to download package files - check you internet connections" The internet connection is fine. I have tried the restore bash command for update and upgrade given to me by Paul Gear but that has not resolved the problem on this occasion. Any other suggestions, please. Geoffrey Combes -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au Change the "download from" server for software/updates to http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive. This is the fastest server for Australia, but more importantly getting it to reset the software list may fix your problem. Sometimes it gets confused about what server and what software list it is supposed to be using. I've had that happen a couple of times over the years. I don't know what causes it. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu Unity desktop
There are many articles about this (such as http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-gnome-unity-similarities/ ) Basically the newer Ubuntu makes gnome look and act pretty much the same as unity was. Give it a try and you may be pleasantly surprised -- Please excuse my brevity as this email was sent from my microwave On 4 Dec. 2017 12:18 pm, "Geoffrey Combes" wrote: > I have been asked what do I think of Ubuntu's Gnome desktop. I am using > 16.04 LTS and will continue to do so until it is no longer supported. > > I like the Unity desktop. All my favourite programs are quickly accessed > from the toolbar at left and others can be found in Dash. Unity gives me > fast access to programs and I would be disappointed at losing it. Is there > a choice? > > Please tell me what is going on. > > Geoffrey Combes > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Installing distro iso images
An iso file is actually a DVD/CD image rather than a disk image and so can't be directly written to a disk via dd. Instead use something like 'usb-creator' to take the iso image and put it on the disk in the right layout etc. Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick for more information Chris On 17 August 2017 at 11:15, Geoffrey Combes wrote: > Recently I have downloaded Linus iso images and loaded them to storage > disks. The first was lubuntu to a TF card to be used with an OrangePi One > and the second, this week, ubuntu 17.04 to one of my desktop PC's HDDs. I > used the standard terminal command for this loading procedure. For example, > with the iso on the desktop the terminal command was: sudo dd bs=4M > if=~/Desktop/ubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb1 > > My PC confirmed that the operating systems were properly installed on > their respective storage media but neither would boot. For 17.04 my PC gave > a reason for not booting, viz. "isolinux.bin is missing', which is not true > as the file is in the iso. My question is: Have I left something out in the > installing procedure? Or any other suggestions. > > By the way, my reason for obtaining the 17.04 image was to replace > 16.04LTS which has developed a fault - both the Updating and Ubuntu > Software apps have stopped working (a first time event for me). This > leaves me in a 'Catch 22' situation. As the 17.04 iso image won't boot I > have ordered a 32-bit disk from Peter Baker using the on-line source > ubuntu.net.au. > > Geoffrey Combes > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Software Updater
You'll need to give us more information about the failure. When you get the error message make a note of it, then click on the "details" and give us the extra information the box. It could be any of several problems including a problem with the lock file, the repository information on your computer, a third party repository that no longer exists, or it's trying to update something that was previously updated outside of the normal update path. If it's a repository or lock file problem them it's quite likely that you would not be able to safely uninstall the updater or reload it again. Do google searches about the specific error messages and you will usually get several suggestions for repairing the system. > > From: Geoffrey Combes >To: Ubuntu-AU >Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2014 7:14 PM >Subject: Software Updater > > >I am using 14.04 LTS. The Software Updater is failing, reporting an >error after 55% installatlion. >I can neither install updates nor install programs. >I thought of removing the application and re-installing it but Ubuntu's >Software Centre warns against removal as one would expect. >Before taking his action I would appreciate any advice on how to correct >this fault. >Geoffrey Combes > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Evince not opening PDF
It appears to be something to do with the formatting on the first page. It takes about 40 seconds or maybe more to render it on my machine. If I scroll off the page and back again, I have to wait for it all over again. I don't seem to be able to print it but I only tried once: interestingly it's the first time I've seen a parent process (Evince) register 150+% CPU usage (on a dual core machine) in top. It's either something in the PDF that is borderline wrt the PDF 1.7 standard, or it is a bug in Evince. I note that the document has been produced possibly in some sort of publishing software and then converted to PDF 1.7 by something called "Elixir PDF Converter". PDF 1.7 would appear to be a good choice because it's a full featured standard with an equivalent ISO standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#PDF_1.7 The problem with converting one document format to another however is that it's possible for the output code to be overly complex or even nonsensical. I'd say try some other PDF viewers as has already been suggested, and possibly log this as a bug in Launchpad. Chris - Original Message - > From: OPM595 > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2012 9:38 PM > Subject: Evince not opening PDF > > Hi Guys, > I installed 12.04 on a friends laptop a few weeks ago and all's been going > fine up until today when they downloaded and attempted to open a PDF from > NSW Music Exams Board using Evince. Evince attempts to open and hangs > while loading. I get the same result from my Laptop using 10.04, and have > to force Evince to quit. > > Unfortunately, to rub salt into my wounds, this friend has contacted a > Windows user, who downloaded, opened and printed the document in seconds. > I've never had a problem ever opening PDF files on Ubuntu, and of all > things it has to happen now with a new convert :( > > For reference the actual document in question can be downloaded here: > http://www.ameb.nsw.edu.au/pdf_doc/prac-exam-enrolment-form-2012.pdf > > If anyone could possibly let me know what might be the issue here, that > would be much appreciated. > > Regards, > Rob > > > Local Id: OPM595 > Email: opm...@yahoo.com.au > PO Box 190, Narellan NSW 2567 Australia > > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
ODT files in Word
> - Original Message - >> From: Chris Jones >> To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, 6 July 2012 7:12 PM >> Subject: Re: ODT files in Word >> >> I'm a user of both Windows and Linux. Trying to get a format that works > on >> both platforms can be a pain. I found it so much of a pain that I simply > just >> use solely PDF when sending files to people. >> >> If you are frequently editing the file(s) on different platforms or > possibly >> different users, then perhaps an online office suite might be the way to go > for >> you. > > Not me, Libre Office opens anything I throw at it, including docx stuff that > my > wife has trouble printing because of weird departmental fonts. When I print > yet > another thoughtlessly formatted document for her I am always sure to rub it > in. > Gently but firmly ;-) > > I suggested the odt plugins for Word because it looks like the solution for > Windows users that haven't been able to open odt documents in the past. > Have you tried it found it less than satisfactory? > > Chris > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ODT files in Word
I'm a user of both Windows and Linux. Trying to get a format that works
on both platforms can be a pain. I found it so much of a pain that I
simply just use solely PDF when sending files to people.
If you are frequently editing the file(s) on different platforms or
possibly different users, then perhaps an online office suite might be
the way to go for you.
Just food for thought.
Regards
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Re: ODT files in Word
> From: Jared Norris >To: Chris Robinson >Cc: Ubuntu AU List >Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 6:00 PM >Subject: Re: ODT files in Word > >On 4 July 2012 12:47, Chris Robinson wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> One of the objections we may come across from time regarding getting people >> to migrate full time to Ubuntu is the inability of Word to open open source >> formats like ODT. This now appears to be FUD because there is apparently a >> plug-in for Word that will allow it to do this. >> >> http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2007/02/odt_plugin_for_.html >> >> I also came across a reference from Microsoft that said that the odt >> extension was available already in Office 2007 with service pack 2 applied. >> >> A user that I helped with Ubuntu told me about this because a University >> system they were using actually prompted them if they wanted to open an odt >> document in word, and the conversion seemed to work perfectly. >> >> Good news, because odt documents should now be accessible to those with up >> to date Office 2007 and only a few clicks away for those with Office 2003. >> I haven't seen anything about earlier Word/Office versions but we are >> probably out of luck. (but really, even the stodgiest MS enterprise user >> should have upgraded from 95 or 2000 by now... >> >> >> Onward... >> >> Chris >> >> -- >> ubuntu-au mailing list >> ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au >> > >I never bother sending any odt's or docs's anywhere, I always just >save them as PDFs and do it that way. Just thought I'd mention another >way to ensure your document arrives in the format and layout you sent >it in. > >-- >Regards, > >Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > Hi Jared, Yes I agree that PDFs are a good way to distribute formatted documents, but the issue can often be when the documents need to be edited further, or where the user is forced to use Windows systems at work or uni. Not being able to edit an odt document when you need to can be a real road block when open source formats should be loaded in any mainstream word processor. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
ODT files in Word
Hi all. One of the objections we may come across from time regarding getting people to migrate full time to Ubuntu is the inability of Word to open open source formats like ODT. This now appears to be FUD because there is apparently a plug-in for Word that will allow it to do this. http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2007/02/odt_plugin_for_.html I also came across a reference from Microsoft that said that the odt extension was available already in Office 2007 with service pack 2 applied. A user that I helped with Ubuntu told me about this because a University system they were using actually prompted them if they wanted to open an odt document in word, and the conversion seemed to work perfectly. Good news, because odt documents should now be accessible to those with up to date Office 2007 and only a few clicks away for those with Office 2003. I haven't seen anything about earlier Word/Office versions but we are probably out of luck. (but really, even the stodgiest MS enterprise user should have upgraded from 95 or 2000 by now... Onward... Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: School again
We don't really know the circumstances of the school, so it's a bit hard to go into specifics. Broadly speaking though, there's two main categories that school computers fall into: administrative, and teaching. In most states in Australia the administrative roles of computers are largely dictated by the respective state education departments, so things like departmental networking and email, databases (eg year two net, NAPLAN data et al), accounting, and now to a larger extent curriculum resources might need to be interfaced to with the department sanctioned OS. Using another OS might leave the school without technical support or backup since in my experience IT support personnel only receive training in the sanctioned OS, and department IT resources are geared to the mainstream OS. I don't mean to sound discouraging, just giving the advice that classroom computers are probably your greatest chance of success here. The good news is, the field is really wide open since the focus is usually on teaching simple tasks. For early childhood (yrs 1 and 2) students will normally be shown how to draw a picture, type into a word processor, interact with simple programs and games. Middle years will normally be expected to extend this to achieve some specific tasks: write a story, draw a picture, achieve a specific goal or task. Later primary school grades will extend this, but the tasks will be more complex - spreadsheats, photo editing, a basic database etc. Many public schools are behind the eight ball when it comes to decent IT teaching in the classroom because the teachers mostly lack the training and understanding themselves. Computer resources for teaching are generally limited and have to be shared with the whole school. In many areas of course students have access to computers at home but many in disadvantaged communities are not so lucky. Anything you give them should be simple to install and teach. Fortunately the choice with Linux/Ubuntu is extensive and it's possible to find suitable alternatives for almost any requirement. You wouldn't give them the Gimp for photo editing for example, but one of the simpler alternatives would be suitable. I suggest you find out what they want to teach, and the solutions should start to suggest themselves immediately. If the school does not have enough hardware the should approach one of the non-profit recyclers which can be found through searches, for example photobank: http://www.cbq.org.au/ Chris > > From: Mick Skey >To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2012 4:27 PM >Subject: School again > > >Hi guy's > > >I have manage to get a meeting with school Head Mistress >on Tuesday, I'm going to take Ubuntu 12.04 and the Latest >Edubuntu, Thank for your help and I'm willing to take more on >as well. Please feel free to send stuff as this my first time, >I am not going to push Linux but to show there is something else, > > >As I said before there are schools out there in the same boat as my >2 rug-rats at and there is a opportunity for us to promote Linux. > > >Please feel free to send suggestion, PLEASE feel free to help > > >Cheers >-- >M.Skey > > > > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: School again
School again Is this a high school or college? What sort of school are you referring to? Is there an IT class at your school? Regards -- Chris Jones @ kernel.devproj...@gmail.com also on oracle.kernel...@gmail.com and netbsd.kernel...@gmail.com OpenSUSE Linux x86_64 (PC)|Android (Smartphone)|Windows 7 (Laptop)|Windows XP (Gaming) Linux kernel developer|Solaris kernel developer|BSD kernel developer Lead Developer of SDL|Lead Developer of Nest Linux|Gamer and Emulator nut|Web Services|Digital Imaging Services Controllers: Rapier V2 Gaming mouse|Logitech Precision|PS3 controller|XB360 controller|Logitech Attack 3 j/stick Emulators: Fusion|Gens|ZSNES|Project64|PCSX-R|Stella|WinVICE|WinUAE|DOSBox -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: virus phone call scam: question/wacky replies
On 21 June 2012 13:08, Chris Robinson wrote: > > > > > From: Chris Debenham > >To: Boden Matthews > >Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > >Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:02 AM > >Subject: Re: virus phone call scam: question/wacky replies > > > > > >* Call them out on this all being a scam (in the process have had threats > and rather bad language shouted at me) > > > > > I've actually done that one. I was at my father-in-laws house - he's 90 > and has never even owned a computer. > > The person (female) did not get abusive, but rather got upset and admitted > that it was a scam. Surprise! I like to think it might have been a life > changing experience for her ;-) > > I like the idea of letting them have access to a VM, just to see what will > happen though. I'd be a little concerned about all the other computers on > the same router though - some of them (the wife's) are Windows computers. > > I have actually tried this before. I setup a virtualmachine and put it in it's very own VLAN (so can't access other machines) I also setup routing so it was the default destination for a while. They get you to go through a few steps to show some 'errors' (which are not really a problem) Then they get you to go to a website and install a remote-access application to they can access your system directly (note that some of the the webpages they can refer you to even have a nice big warning about scams :) ) After this they futz around a bit 'cleaning' the system. At this point it is all pretty innocuous. The big problem is that after all this the call ends - but the remote-access software is still installed! I left the VM running for a few days and kept an eye on it (with wireshark running on host to track network connections to the VM) Nothing much happened that day - but the next evening around 9pm there was a connection to the remote-access software and someone spent a while looking around on the computer. They did things like looking for documents, and checking browser history/password store. Since the VM was a clean install they didn't find anything and left after a while. At this point I shutdown the VM and got rid of that VLAN/routing setup -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: virus phone call scam: question/wacky replies
Yeah these sort of phone calls can be a worry for elderly people. My Mother keeps getting them and depsite how many many times I've told her just to hang up the phone, she seems to think it's actually Microsoft calling them. But yeah, demand to talk to their supervisor, ask them what country they're calling from and what address is the office they're calling from because you charge $9.95 per minute of your time to talk to them and you'll have send them the invoice. It quickly stops them talking. Regards -- Chris Jones @ kernel.devproj...@gmail.com OpenSUSE Linux x86_64 (PC)|Android (Smartphone)|Windows 7 (Laptop)|Windows XP (Gaming) Kernel developer|Lead Developer of SDL|Lead Developer of Nest Linux|Gamer and Emulator nut|Web Services|Digital Imaging Services Controllers: Rapier V2 Gaming mouse|Logitech Precision|PS3 controller|XB360 controller|Logitech Attack 3 j/stick Emulators: Fusion|Gens|ZSNES|Project64|PCSX-R|Stella|WinVICE|WinUAE -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: virus phone call scam: question/wacky replies
On 21 June 2012 13:08, Chris Robinson wrote: > > > > > From: Chris Debenham > >To: Boden Matthews > >Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > >Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:02 AM > >Subject: Re: virus phone call scam: question/wacky replies > > > > > >* Call them out on this all being a scam (in the process have had threats > and rather bad language shouted at me) > > > > > I've actually done that one. I was at my father-in-laws house - he's 90 > and has never even owned a computer. > > The person (female) did not get abusive, but rather got upset and admitted > that it was a scam. Surprise! I like to think it might have been a life > changing experience for her ;-) > > I like the idea of letting them have access to a VM, just to see what will > happen though. I'd be a little concerned about all the other computers on > the same router though - some of them (the wife's) are Windows computers. > > I have actually tried this before. I setup a virtualmachine and put it in it's very own VLAN (so can't access other machines) I also setup routing so it was the default destination for a while. They get you to go through a few steps to show some 'errors' (which are not really a problem) Then they get you to go to a website and install a remote-access application to they can access your system directly (note that some of the the webpages they can refer you to even have a nice big warning about scams :) ) After this they futz around a bit 'cleaning' the system. At this point it is all pretty innocuous. The big problem is that after all this the call ends - but the remote-access software is still installed! I left the VM running for a few days and kept an eye on it (with wireshark running on host to track network connections to the VM) Nothing much happened that day - but the next evening around 9pm there was a connection to the remote-access software and someone spent a while looking around on the computer. They did things like looking for documents, and checking browser history/password store. Since the VM was a clean install they didn't find anything and left after a while. At this point I shutdown the VM and got rid of that VLAN/routing setup I also blacklisted the IP range involved just in case ;) Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: virus phone call scam: question/wacky replies
We generally tell them we are running linux (or solaris). I was quite surprised one time when one of them even knew what linux was!! (most just don't understand at all) For a period of time we were getting on average 5 calls a week - we still get the occasional but only 1 a week or so. Depending on how much time I have I sometimes 'play' for a bit ;) Some of my personal favourite ways to mess with them are: * Spent a few minutes trying to load up the control panel on my microwave * Tried to sell them my car * Tried to convince them to move to a better customer management system so that they could reduce costs and improve productivity (I work for a company which does CMS stuff so even suggested a few products and referred them to our consulting services number ;) ) * Sang the national anthem (both verses) * Told them I don't understand computers good and so would pass them onto my son (who is 12 months old and had a lovely 'conversation' with them) * Followed their instruction on my ubuntu box and acted all confused when it did not match what they were saying it should look like * Transferred them to our household 'technical support' person (me with different voice) who was too busy so he transferred them to remote support (me - new voice again) who was in the wrong group so he transferred them to management (my wife) She said this was an IT issue and transferred back to the original person. By this time the person on the other end hung up. * Pretended to be an automated phone system (Say "support" for IT support, say "sales" for Sales etc) with really back voice recognition which kept messing it up * Told them that what they are doing is wrong and offered to pray with them about this * Call them out on this all being a scam (in the process have had threats and rather bad language shouted at me) There are many, many other things to do - any other people have favourite responses? Chris On 20 June 2012 22:22, Boden Matthews wrote: > Last time they called I told them I had a Mac (They claimed to be from > Microsoft). I don't actually have a Mac, but it makes them hang up :D > > Regards, > Boden Matthews, > http://bodenm.wordpress.com > > > > On 20 June 2012 22:20, Tom Sparks wrote: > >> 'We have been getting phone calls say "your computer has a problem..." >> Most time I just hand up. But I've been think of give these caller a 10 >> question or some wacky replies >> >> 1 What Operating System I am I using? >> 2 What's my local/network IP address? >> 3 What's my router's IP address? >> 4 What's my Internet IP address? >> >> * Must be my Atari 2600, How did that get on the Internet? >> * let me drag out my PDP-10 do you want to debug that for me? >> * Where my ARPANET IMP? >> ' >> I am wondering what question or wacky replies would you come up with? >> >> --- >> tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-au mailing list >> ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au >> > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Closes this week: PyCon Australia 2012 and Google Australia announce gender diversity grants
Hello there! Just a friendly reminder to all of you that applications for our Gender Diversity Grants close on Friday this week. Google Australia are funding several AU$500 grants for deserving women living outside of the Souther Tasmania Region to attend PyCon Australia 2012, which us happening in August in Hobart. Please pass this onto anyone you know who may be interested in applying for one of these grants. Further information can be found at http://2012.pycon-au.org/diversity_grants including the application form. Original message follows. --Chris *** PyCon Australia and Google Australia are pleased to announce that they're joining forces to offer gender diversity delegate grants to women who wish to attend PyCon Australia in 2012. These grants will cover up to $AUD500 of travel, accommodation and registration costs for women living outside of the Southern Tasmania region to attend this year's conference. These grants aim to reduce the financial barriers to attending PyCon Australia 2012, by subsidising the registration and travel costs of people from diverse groups, who contribute in important ways to the Python community. More information can be found at http://2012.pycon-au.org/diversity_grants Eligibility In order to be eligible for one of the grants, you must be: - A woman, aged 18 or older - A professional, enthusiast or student interested in, or currently working in Python-related fields or projects - Planning to attend both days of PyCon Australia 2012 - In order to be eligible for the travel and accommodation grant, you must additionally: live further than 150 km (by road) from the conference venue. (If you are unsure, please visit http://maps.google.com.au/maps/place?q=Wrest%20Point,%20Tasmania and use the "Get Directions" link in the upper left-hand corner to calculate the driving distance from your place of residence to the venue.) More information can be found at http://2012.pycon-au.org/diversity_grants Award Amount All selected grant recipients will be extended the Early Bird registration rates to PyCon Australia, provided registration is completed prior to 13 July. In addition, recipients of the travel and accommodation grant will be reimbursed up to $500 in travel and accommodation costs. More information can be found at http://2012.pycon-au.org/diversity_grants Timeline Applications for the gender diversity delegates grants are open now, and will close on Friday 22 June We will notify all successful recipients of their award by Friday 29 June so that you can have ample time to complete your travel plans. More information can be found at http://2012.pycon-au.org/diversity_grants === About PyCon Australia === PyCon Australia is the national conference for the Python Programming Community. The third PyCon Australia will be held on August 18 and 19, 2012 in Hobart, Tasmania, bringing together professional, student and enthusiast developers with a love for developing with Python. PyCon Australia informs the country’s Python developers with presentations, tutorials and panel sessions by experts and core developers of Python, as well as the libraries and frameworks that they rely on. To find out more about PyCon Australia 2012, visit our website at http://pycon-au.org or e-mail us at cont...@pycon-au.org. PyCon Australia is presented by Linux Australia (www.linux.org.au) and acknowledges the support of our Gold sponsors: Google Australia (www.google.com.au), and the Australian Computer Society (Tasmanian Branch) (www.acs.org.au); our Event partners: Kogan, and Secret Lab; and our Silver sponsors: the Python Software Foundation, the Django Software Foundation, Anchor Systems, Red Hat, ekit, RimuHosting, 99designs and CSIRO. -- --Christopher Neugebauer Conference Coordinator and Sponsor Liaison PyCon Australia: Hobart 2012 -- http://2012.pycon-au.org -- @pyconau Conference registration and accommodation deals now available! See our website for details. Jabber: chris...@gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chris.neugebauer.id.au -- Twitter/Identi.ca: @chrisjrn -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
PyCon Australia 2012 Conference Programme Revealed!
(Hobart Tasmania, 15 June 2012) With both of our keynotes announced, PyCon Australia is very proud to be able to reveal the programme for the 2012 conference, to be held on Saturday 18 and Sunday 19 August 2012 in Hobart, Tasmania. Following an impressive response to our Call for Proposals the conference will feature three full tracks of presentations and tutorials, across two days, covering all aspects of the Python ecosystem, presented by experts and core developers of key Python technology. Our keynote presenters, Mark Ramm, Engineering Manager on Juju at Canonical [1], and Kenneth Reitz, Python lead at Heroku [2] will be joined by a wide array of presenters covering a broad range of backgrounds, including industry, research, government and academia. As ever, PyCon Australia is a great place to keep up-to-date with the latest trends in Python web technology: From Heroku, Lincoln Stoll will be presenting on the 12 Factor Method for building software-as-a-service apps [3]. Other web related topics include deployment and testing techniques for Django applications and techniques for asynchronous web programming. There's also a wide range of talks for the rapidly growing community of developers using Python in science. Edward Schofield's survey of the latest developments in Python for Science and Engineering [4] will get you up to scratch on what tools and techniques are shaping the Python world for scientists. From there, case studies and introductory talks will delve into all aspects of Python in science: including techniques for handling large scientific data sets, natural language processing, and data visualisation -- attendees working with Python in all fields of science will gain something from PyCon Australia 2012. Finally, for newcomers to Python looking to quickly enhance their Python skillset, Graeme Cross' tutorials [5] in our Classroom stream will help you to rapidly enhance your knowledge of Python -- you can then attend our general stream talks to glean a snapshot of the state of the art in Python. PyCon Australia 2012 programme committee chair, Richard Jones, was impressed with the level of response to the Call for Proposals, which closed in early May: "We had an unprecedented response to our Call for Proposals this year, and this has helped us to put together one of the strongest programmes ever at PyCon Australia. There's something for every developer working with Python in this year's programme -- be they working in web technology, in research, or even if they're just a Python enthusiast who wants to learn more about their favourite language." The full schedule for PyCon Australia 2012 can be found at http://2012.pycon-au.org/programme/schedule Registrations for PyCon Australia 2012 are now open, with prices starting at AU$44 for students, and tickets for the general public starting at AU$198. All prices include GST, and more information can be found at http://2012.pycon-au.org/register/prices We're looking forward to seeing this excellent programme brought to life at PyCon Australia 2012, in Hobart, in August. [1] http://2012.pycon-au.org/media/news/24 [2] http://2012.pycon-au.org/media/news/18 [3] http://2012.pycon-au.org/schedule/59/view_talk?day=sunday [4] http://2012.pycon-au.org/schedule/67/view_talk?day=saturday [5] http://2012.pycon-au.org/schedule/56/view_talk?day=saturday === About PyCon Australia === PyCon Australia is the national conference for the Python Programming Community. The third PyCon Australia will be held on August 18 and 19, 2012 in Hobart, Tasmania, bringing together professional, student and enthusiast developers with a love for developing with Python. PyCon Australia informs the country’s Python developers with presentations, tutorials and panel sessions by experts and core developers of Python, as well as the libraries and frameworks that they rely on. To find out more about PyCon Australia 2012, visit our website at http://pycon-au.org or e-mail us at cont...@pycon-au.org. PyCon Australia is presented by Linux Australia (www.linux.org.au) and acknowledges the support of our Gold sponsors: Google Australia ( www.google.com.au), and the Australian Computer Society (Tasmanian Branch) ( www.acs.org.au); our Event partners: Kogan, and Secret Lab; and our Silver sponsors: the Python Software Foundation, the Django Software Foundation, Anchor Systems, 99designs, Red Hat, ekit, RimuHosting, and CSIRO. -- --Christopher Neugebauer Conference Coordinator and Sponsor Liaison PyCon Australia: Hobart 2012 -- http://2012.pycon-au.org -- @pyconau Conference registration and accommodation deals now available! See our website for details. Jabber: chris...@gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chris.neugebauer.id.au -- Twitter/Identi.ca: @chrisjrn -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 12.04 & Canon printer
I believe the drivers now get installed with cups, so you should delete your existing printer and re-install it. If the drivers have not been included then you should look at Michael Gruz PPA on launchpad to see if the driver is there: https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon though it seems that all of these drivers now get installed with cups (I don't think Michael has updated the PPA to work with 12.04 because of the cups update) Chris > > From: Geoffrey >To: Ubuntu-AU >Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2012 11:55 AM >Subject: 12.04 & Canon printer > >I have upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 stepwise through intermediate >upgrades. Now I find that my Canon iP4200 printer will not respond to >data sent by Ubuntu. The iP4200 has always responded previously (since >9.04) although never properly in colour (I must switch to MS XP). The >next printer that I buy will, hopefuylly, sovle that problem. >Meanwhile I have done as much troubleshooting as I can find on the >system without result. >I'm sure that there is a simple answer but I need help. >Thank you. >Geoff Combes > > > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Mid-Cycle Events
It only gives us about three and a half weeks to organise posters and spread the word. I'm game if everyone else is, but we'd have to go pretty hard at this if it's to be a success. We'd need to start spreading the word this weekend, so I'll start some posters tonight. We'd need to book the venue this week to put on the posters and other advertising - do you have that in hand for Brisbane? I guess the theme for the posters should be "Ubuntu Open Day" and highlight the activities - installation help, discussions, information on Ubuntu and open source software etc. Please add ideas here ASAP - The posters can/will be able to be changed for other venues. If we do informational talks on the day they should be aimed at beginning users and Windows users looking to change: What is open source and how does it work, What applications are installed by default and how to use Software Center, Backing up data and migrating data and applications, Ubuntu(Linux) is not Windows, that sort of thing. Comments? Ideas? Brickbats/Bouquets? Full steam ahead! Chris > > From: Jared Norris >To: da...@kvr.com.au >Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 9:56 PM >Subject: Re: Mid-Cycle Events > >> Sounds like "Ubuntu AU Open Day" with some good supporting tag lines >> in the advertising might be the best approach. So that's the name part >> down, now for the next point: >> * Organise co-ordinators and volunteers for each location wanting to >> participate >> >> So anyone wanting to volunteer to coordinate an event in their local >> area? I'm more than willing to help out and mentor people if you're >> not too confident to do it alone. It would be nice to have several >> events coordinated throughout the country. They don't have to be in >> major cities either, the event works well in regional and remote >> areas, for evidence check out http://ubuntu.org.au/node/84 >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > >Sorry to reply to my own post but would we have enough time to >organise these events by the 23/24 June? I was just looking around and >noticed the Ubuntu User days are coming up then and it might tie in >nicely. Is that cutting it too fine? > >-- >Regards, > >Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Church of Linux
As far as I can tell, it's a tongue-in-cheek linux spoof that only exists on some blog sites. The humour revolves around drawing similarities with religious institutions. (Having a bible, a prophet, and a non-profit status for example) Chris >> >> From: Tom Sparks >>To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >>Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2012 1:27 PM >>Subject: Church of Linux >> >>I am looking for more information about the "Church of Linux" >>Is there a webstie to sign-up to? >> >>--- >>tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" >>Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - >>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >>Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks >>3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 Premium Edition, AF 2012 >>Plus Edition, Sam440 AOS 4.1.2, Roland DXY-1300 pen plotter, Cutok DC330 >>cutter/pen plotter >>Wanted: RiscOS system, GEOS system (C64/C128), Atari ST, Apple Macintosh (6502/68k/PPC only) >> >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Mid-Cycle Events
Agreed on all counts Jared. I think I prefer "Workshop" over "Open Day" because it suggests that actual work will be done, rather than just a banner waving informational type day. Either would seem to be better than "InstallFest". I think the difference might be cultural - perhaps "InstallFest" works better in other countries. We need a poster specificaly designed to be placed in the venue (if possible) so that frequent users of the venue (ie Public Library) get to know about it well in advance. Hopefully it will generate more local traffic in addition to the other advertising that we do. Chris. > > From: Jared Norris >To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2012 10:28 PM >Subject: Mid-Cycle Events > >Good evening all, > >In January the Brisbane members got together for an InstallFest during >the middle of the cycle for the 11.10 release cycle. We discussed that >we would probably like to make this a regular occasion as an addition >to the release parties. We also decided that the name InstallFest was >a bit misleading and discouraged other users from attending. Therefore >I propose we change the name to "Ubuntu-AU Workshop", "Ubuntu-AU Open >Day" or something similar and market it as something people can come >to for help installing, general problems or just curious. I would also >like to suggest that other locations join in on the action and create >their own local events. > >So from what I can tell we need to do the following: >* Decide what to call it >* Organise co-ordinators and volunteers for each location wanting to >participate >* Create loco.u.c events >* Organise a venue (we found public libraries had free meeting rooms >that were great, we also decided to pick them as close to free parking >and public transport as possible). >* Market the events >* Hold the events > >Thoughts, comments or questions anyone? > >-- >Regards, > >Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu 12.04 CDs arrive
Hi Jared, I'd like to take 10 please. I've managed to get people at work and a few others to take Ubuntu seriously. I'm quite happy to re-imburse the postage costs - I don't think you should be out of pocket for that. I think we should organise a workshop in Brisbane soon, if possible. We're already well into May, so maybe July or August is a possibility? Chris > > From: Jared Norris >To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Sent: Friday, 18 May 2012 11:04 PM >Subject: Ubuntu 12.04 CDs arrive > >Good evening all, > >The good folk at Canonical have sent out the team's CDs for the 12.04 >release. This means the team has 250 CDs to distribute and promote >Ubuntu with. If anyone has any creative (or boring for that matter,) >ways to use the CDs to actively promote Ubuntu in the community please >email the list. The CDs are all the 32 bit version of Ubuntu and a >small number of Ubuntu Server CDs as well. > >I'm quite happy to post out CDs for users to use at computer fairs, >school expos, university open days, community gatherings, etc. All I >ask to ensure that they don't end up sitting on someone's shelf >gathering dust before they get too old to use (we're already looking >forward to 12.10!). Feel free to post ideas on the list, if you >already have an idea on your mind it might be worth fleshing it out >into an event on the team's loco.ubuntu.com page. > >Lets get cracking! > >-- >Regards, > >Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: help needed with printers
> From: Peter Goggin >To: Chris Robinson >Cc: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" >Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 9:41 PM >Subject: Re: help needed with printers >I have reinstalled CUPS but the problem still remains. I can get my Samsung >colour laser printer to work through the usb port but not yhe Kyocera FS1010. >I am using 12.04 ubuntu. > >By the way even when connected to the windows box as a shared printer the ubuntu box cannot use the Kyocera. >Any suggestions welcome. > >Regards > > >Peter Goggin Can you connect to the Windows workgroup from the Ubuntu Box? Add a printer and see if the Workgroup shows up. You should be able to see the Windows machine and the printer connected to it. (Set the workgroup name in /etc/samba/smb.conf and reboot) I've played with installing the Kyocera drivers here and it seems to work OK - I just don't have a Kyocera to test it properly. The reason I suggested the purge when removing cups was because it seems that there may be a problem with the Kyocera drivers - corrupted or unreadable. Cups is working because you can install the Samsung driver, but it's bombing on the Kyocera. I had hoped that if this was the case -purge and complete re-install would fix it, but if it's re-using a bad file in the archives rather than downloading it again... Maybe get rid of the .deb archives and try again? sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb sudo apt-get purge cups sudo apt-get install cups. You should see the gutenprint drivers removed and then re-installed after downloading Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Brisbane Release Party TODAY!
The time has absolutely flown by and the Brisbane Release Party is today. The details are here for anyone who didn't vote in the poll or has been too busy to keep track of their emails: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1618/detail/ Newcomers are welcome of course - it's a social gathering where we get to chat with other Ubuntu users. Looking forward to seeing you all there! Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: help needed with printers
It sounds like cups is broken in some way. Try stopping the process and starting it again: sudo stop cups sudo start cups Try installing the printer again. If that fails then you could try removing cups completely and installing it again in case there's something not quite write with it: sudo apt-get -purge cups sudo apt-get install cups When you do the purge, look at see what it is going to remove. Removing some of these low level modules can take out more than you expect. How did you install Ubuntu (wubi, whole disk, alongside)? From a LiveCD or did you do an on-line install/upgrade?. Are you running 32bit or 64 bit? Test the drivers and the cups program by installing the Kyocera printer as a parallel port printer. Does it still fail? I'm really impressed with cups and the drivers in 12.04. You might consider a full upgrade to the new release. > > From: Peter Goggin >To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 11:15 AM >Subject: help needed with printers > >I have a Kyocera FS1010 laser printer. I have tried attaching it to my ubuntu >box using the usb port. Ths system finds the printer and tries to load the >drivers but then comes up with a CUPS Server internal error. >Originally the kyocera was attached to my windows box as a shared printer and >I could see it form the ubuntu box, but following the upgrade to 10.04 I >started getting the CUPS error. > >How can I fix it so that I can use the kyocera as a usb printer on the ubuntu >box? > >Regards > > > >Peter Goggin > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Upgrade of 10.04 to 12.04
From: Chris Robinson To: Geoffrey >Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2012 1:45 PM >Subject: Re: Upgrade of 10.04 to 12.04 > > >Because the release upgrade is is automatic, they are mostly done the same way >- either through update manager or by apt-get if you prefer command line. > > >The most likely reason you are not getting the option to upgrade through >update manager is that you have the box unticked for "check for new release >upgrades" or similar in sources. In this case it will only update the current >release, not offer release upgrades. This is normal - especially for an LTS >release, since you probably don't _want_ it to upgrade every time a new >release comes out. > > >It's also a fact that on-line release upgrades are risky. Because there have >been so many changes (Unity, Gnome, Compiz etc) the more modified your system >the more likely the upgrade will break in some way. It's also risky from the >point of view that if you do have a serious breakage it leaves you without the >current LiveCD or LiveUSB to use as a recovery boot disk. You might have to >re-install LTS just to try again or to make the LiveCD for 12.04 > > > >There's now a second way to upgrade, and that is from a LiveCD or LiveUSB. >When you boot the LIveCD one of the options given is to upgrade the existing >system from the CD. This is much faster to do, since the necessary files have >already been downloaded - you don't have to wait hours, biting your nails to >find out if upgrade is going to work - you will know in about 15 or 20 >minutes. You also have the bootable LiveCD to fall back on if the upgrade >breaks. > > >You should download the relevant ISO for your system (eg 32bit desktop etc) >and make the LiveCD or LiveUSB. You should also backup all of your important >data before you proceed with the upgrade. This is standard operating >procedure for anything as serious as a system upgrade. In the next few weeks >we will see people looking for help in the forums and Launchpad who have just >had a failed upgrade and want to recover their data any way possible. I'm >also sure that there's many more we _don't_ hear from because they don't >having a working system anymore. > > >I can recommend the LiveUSB as one of the best ways to do it. CD's burnt with >old hardware can be unreliable, especially if want to use them in other >computers. I'd also recommend that you wait a little while before upgrading. >There appears to be a problem with Unity Lens crashing on boot that has not >been fixed yet. > > >Chris > > > > >> >> From: Geoffrey >>To: Ubuntu-AU >>Sent: Friday, 27 April 2012 4:53 PM >>Subject: Upgrade of 10.04 to 12.04 >> >>I wish to upgrade from 10.04LTS to 12.04LTS so I consult the Ubuntu >>website for the simple instructions on how to do so. The paper-chase >>begins. >>I follow the simple guide via the 'upgrade' link to find: 'Upgrade from >>Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04LTS" >>I go the the link 'read the upgrade notes' (for versions other than >>11.10). There are many listed but none that refer to upgrading 10.04LTS >>to 12.04LTS. >>The paper-chase seems to end here with no result. >>I believe that upgrading should be done with care using the right >>instructions depending on the system version being used so I am >>reluctant to take a punt and mess things up. >>Surely I don't need to upgrade from 10.04LTS to 10.10, then to 11.04 and >>then to 11.10 before upgrading to 12.04LTS? >>I would be grateful for advice from members. >>PS My Update Manager does not advise that 12.04LTS is ready to load. >>Geoffrey >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>ubuntu-au mailing list >>ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au >> >> >> > >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: mobile usb phones
I have a Huawei dongle I got on a plan, and there's also a Huawei hardwired into my EeePC (different model though). Neither have given me any problems connecting with the previous LTS right through to the current beta for 12.04. All you have to do is right click on the network connections and set up the mobile broadband connection. It should automatically find the correct device, and all you do then is select Australia and the plan type. Once it shows the connection data, just accept the values as is. Make sure you click the box "connect automatically" and you will have a connection made whenever you boot or resume with 10.04 LTS. There's a bug in the later network manager releases I'm trying to get acknowledged, or at least confirmed at the project level: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/880084 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667488 The bug means that from 11.04 onwards, including the current beta, the wireless internet will _NOT_ connect automatically - you have to enable it each time, unfortunately. Chris. From: john_cullen To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 7:41 AM Subject: mobile usb phones Hi ubuntu people I am running ubuntu 11.10 can anyone tell me if they are using 3g wireless dongles in Australia and how easy is it to install. -- purencool t: @purencool w: www.purencool.com b: www.purencool.com/blog -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Release Party - Location?
Yes, last time we seemed to get more people turn up than actually voted (which is good) but stick your hand up, or throw your hat into the ring, or at least vote in the poll. :-) The release party is a social group; no pressure except to turn up and enjoy some friendly company; It's nice to get together with some fellow Ubuntu enthusiasts. Besides, the first shout is on me (so be on time!) Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Release Party - Location? On 9 March 2012 19:37, Jared Norris wrote: > On 9 March 2012 12:50, Chris Robinson wrote: >> Adding the dates to the poll seems to have caused it to reset. I appear to >> be the first respondent. >> >> Chris > > Apologies all, it would appear this is the case. It did not ever state > it would delete all the data when I updated it and when I checked it > afterwards it did appear to retain the information but shortly after > deleted it all. > > If you were one of the few who had already nominated please do so again. > > -- > Regards, > > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris Just to give some warning I expect to lock in a time and date on Sunday evening. So if you want to have a say in when it is head over to http://doodle.com/6z7sw9rbvvgu5rkr as soon as possible. Hope to see some new faces! -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Apache issues
"... file does not exist" when it obviously does sounds like a permissions problem. I haven't done it so haven't got the magic bullet for you, but review how permissions and groups need to be set up for php. I seem to recall (from my reading) that there's a simple but quite counter intuitive need to set groups or permissions, or something. Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Release Party - Location?
Adding the dates to the poll seems to have caused it to reset. I appear to be the first respondent. Chris From: Jared Norris To: Cary Bielenberg Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: Brisbane Release Party - Location? On 8 March 2012 07:40, Cary Bielenberg wrote: > Would love to come but that weekend is the council elections state wide on > Sat. As I have to work for that to the wee hours of Sun morning I cant > guarantee that I can make it :( > > > Cary > > Sorry mate, I thought I'd looked up to make sure there were no big events that weekend but obviously I missed that one. For the sake of fairness I'll add in the dates/times for the following weekend as well just in case that proves much more popular. What it means is though is that the people who have already voted will need to edit their vote if they would like to add preferences for any times on the following weekend. Thanks for bringing it up and we'll see what people want from here. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Release Party - Location?
General approval I think. the only problem from my point of view is that I'll be out of town from 31st March to the 16th April, but since the actual release date is towards the end of April (I think) and if the release party is around or after then, I'll definitely be there. Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Release Party - Location? On 18 February 2012 19:38, Jared Norris wrote: > Good evening, > > At the meeting last week we decided it was about time to start > planning the release parties and the first point of business is the > booking of a date, time & venue. > > The main criteria for a successful venue are: > * Fairly central > * Accessible via public transport > * Able to site 10 - 20 people comfortably > * Accessible to minors > > The venue suggested at the meeting was the Kedron Park Hotel ( > http://www.kedronparkhotel.com.au/index.html ) as it's fairly > centrally located. There was a question of if this will be accessible > to minors or not so I posed the question to the venue and their > response was: > > "We allow minors in the restaurant area so long as they are > accompanied by a responsible adult ie a parent or guardian figure and > not an older partner or sibling. The minor isn’t allowed to enter any > area of the hotel that partakes in gaming, cannot approach the bar and > naturally cannot consume alcohol. So long as there is a reasonable > ratio of adult : minor there shouldn’t be an issue with licensing. > > Please let us know if there is any more information you require at > this stage, or if you would like to make a booking. " > > So I guess the next question - is it accessible for public transport? > If you are thinking of attending and you usually use public transport > please provide some feedback on how difficult this location would be > to get to on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. > > -- > Regards, > > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris So does the lack of response indicate approval or disapproval for the suggestion? Either no one can fault it so haven't added much or no one supports it so don't want to say much. Don't be shy, feel free to make your voice heard. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Videos appear a black box and won't play in ubuntu 11.10
Is this with Firefox? It sounds like a flash problem. I can highly recommend installing the flash-aid add-on in Firefox and letting it do its thing. It will install the correct version of flash for the version of Firefox and the OS, removing any conflicting versions in the process. After it has run a restart of Firefox will be required. There have been a lot of Firefox updates recently. Most likely something got broken along the way. Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: bob matheson Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Videos appear a black box and won't play in ubuntu 11.10 On 21 February 2012 13:41, bob matheson wrote: > I am running Ubuntu 11.10 on a Samsung laptop with intel i5 second > generation processor. > > I update regularly when update message appears. For about a week I have had > this problem where a video appears as a black box and will not play. This is > a new problem, as previously everything was OK. I first noticed it on > Ninemsn site which I refer to daily for news. I have searched the web to try > and find a solution, but being relatively new to Ubuntu can't quite work out > what to do. > > Any advice your could offer would be very much appreciated. There is not a > great rush as you are probably very busy. > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bob Matheson - Cairns. Good evening all, Bob has sent me an email with some problems that I've not encountered before. With his permission I've forwarded this to the mailing list to see if anyone else has experienced this issue and has some suggestions on how to fix it. So does anyone have any ideas about how to troubleshoot or fix the issue above? -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Alt+Ctrl+Arrow keys disabled in Precise
I've added a me-too with the following text: = However there IS conflict between the new shortcut keys and other uses of the super key. Now, when I press and hold shift-super in preparation for pressing the arrow keys I get several unwanted and annoying behaviours: 1) The Launcher pops out, all numbered up 2) The Hint screen for shortcut keys pops up and overlays the wall 3) Only _after_ the workspace is selected does the wall come to the foreground - apart from that it's behind shortcut key help screen. It's very annoying and confusing 4) The whole things works so slow that most of the time I am looking at the shortcut key hint screen, with the wall out of focus below it. Every time I press an arrow key the shortcut key help screen comes to the foreground while the animation on the wall is occurring. 5) I get very annoyed and wonder if someone actually thought this through. If this goes out as it is in LTS then it will be seriously broken. = I think this shows who is calling the shots - The devs have been told to implement whatever the design team has asked for - with no functionality testing or other input. :-( Chris From: Stephen Rees-Carter To: Ubuntu AU List Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012 4:53 PM Subject: Alt+Ctrl+Arrow keys disabled in Precise Hey all, Just a warning for those of us running precise: The Alt+Ctrl+Arrow keyboard shortcut for switching workspaces has been replaced for Super+Shift+Arrow keys. The change makes absolutely no sense, and shows no thought for backwards compatibility... Bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/940085 So, before the last LTS they moved the window controls to the left, now before this LTS they are removing a long-standing keyboard short cut... It's also worth nothing that the new Super+Shift+Arrow combination is half-broken for me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/940803 It only goes Up and Down, but not Left or Right. Thanks, ~Stephen -- Stephen Rees-Carter ~ Valorin http://stephen.rees-carter.net/ -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Network Manager 3G not enabled bug
Update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/880084 Nearly four months after first adding the Launchpad bug report there's finally some acknowledgment on it, mainly as a result of reporting it upstream via Bugzilla a month ago: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667488 Strangely, it's been assigned and marked as medium priority, but is still also marked as "unconfirmed". I'm thinking maybe my hopes of having this fixed in time for the LTS release might be dashed... Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Launcher 'dodge' taken out of Precise
From: Stephen Rees-Carter To: Chris Robinson Cc: Ubuntu AU List Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Launcher 'dodge' taken out of Precise I'm also having issues with the sensitivity of the launcher - I keep resorting to pressing 'Super' to open it :) --- I also played around with using the super key to get the launcher to appear but didn't find it an ideal solution since I just want the launcher not the whole dash. Rather than just hope that the issue is fixed, I went searching for any bug reports on this. I didn't find anything, and couldn't find any references to it in the release notes either. To this end, I've added a bug report in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/930555 Anyone who is having trouble or finds the delay in the launcher reveal annoying please add your comments. Thanks, Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Australian Ubuntu Developers?
I am writing an article on Ubuntu 12.04 development and am seeking an Aussie Ubuntu Developer to answer a few question for me regarding 12.04 development, which will make up the article. It's basically an email interview. Is anyone interested? Regards -- Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:17:33 +1100 > From: Scott Boyle > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > Very new to the list so I am sorry if this is a repeat topic (if it is > could you point me to an archive). I have been dreaming of a linux disto > that is bare bones (but not so much to make it difficult to use as I am new > to linux) one that doesnot come with all the bells and whistles and 30 apps > for the same functionality, I want an OS that I need to add the > applications for what I want to do. Also I would like to be able to have a > highly cusomisable X windos application so I can completely change the look > and feel to how I would like. I am hoping there is something out there for > me, if not I am willing to start a project to roll my own but I would > rather not reinvent the wheel if there is already a wheel that fits. > > Scott Boyle > > -- Hi Scott. I don't know whether you found the solution that you are after, but I reckon you should give Bodhi Linux a try. It is Ubuntu based and sits at around ~350MB ISO download. It is basically a base install for you to build and customize to your own liking. It's what I use and now I swear by it. But the first thing I do in it is replace Enlightenment with GNOME. But that's easy by running: sudo aptitude install gnome-panel Done. Regards -- Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Launcher 'dodge' taken out of Precise
Just a heads-up on something we need to be aware of for Precise. Those that aren't Alpha testing may not yet know that the launcher dodge feature has been removed. Mark Shuttleworth's reply to a query on why this was done is here: https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg07665.html The default behaviour is now to never hide, however the "always hide" setting can be found in System Settings --> Appearance --> Behavior. Windowed applications now position to avoid the launcher initially, however full screen apps are overlayed by the launcher. I think most new users will change the behaviour to "always hide" as soon as they find out how to do it because of this. I can't fault the logic, but it feels broken now that I've finally gotten used to the dodging launcher. The method to reveal the launcher is not to 'push' against the left edge. There's a setting for the sensitivity of this however it doesn't appear to actually change anything on my machine. Setting the sensitivity to max does not appear to make the Launcher appear any easier. No doubt this is still being worked on. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows
Definitely have a look at Lubuntu. It's an extremely light 'buntu that will typically use less than 100Mb at boot but does not require any Linux knowledge to get working on most hardware. It has all the usual things we now take for granted - hardware support, package management, automated updates and access to the maintained repositories. It will feel a lot more minimal compared to Ubuntu but does what you need it to do. For a completely cut down Linux I think people should be looking to something like Tiny Core: http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/welcome.html which is still happily in continued development. It's very bare bones at around 12MB and is a very interesting project. Most people think of DSL (Damn Small Linux) when they talk about a minimal LInux distro, but Tiny Core is made by the same person after the originators of DSL had a falling out. Given that Tiny Core is in continued development (currently 3.0.3 kernel) and DSL has stagnated (kernel 2.4.31) I'm rather surprised that more people don't know about it. Tiny core is very easy to get working thanks to the installer but to add any hardware support (3G, specialised laptop hardware) will require you to configure it yourself. It's impressive to see it boot, since it boots up almost as fast as the bootloader itself. Chris From: Scott Boyle To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2012 9:17 AM Subject: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows Hi all, Very new to the list so I am sorry if this is a repeat topic (if it is could you point me to an archive). I have been dreaming of a linux disto that is bare bones (but not so much to make it difficult to use as I am new to linux) one that doesnot come with all the bells and whistles and 30 apps for the same functionality, I want an OS that I need to add the applications for what I want to do. Also I would like to be able to have a highly cusomisable X windos application so I can completely change the look and feel to how I would like. I am hoping there is something out there for me, if not I am willing to start a project to roll my own but I would rather not reinvent the wheel if there is already a wheel that fits. Scott Boyle -- http://www.facebook.com/?sk=apps#!/profile.php?ref=profile&id=659067432 http://www.scott-boyle.blogspot.com -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Colour MFD recommendations?
Speaking as a photographer interested in photo printing technology and longevity of papers and inks, Canon make technically great products but their software support for Linux is borderline at best. Most people seem to recommend HP and for this reason I think I'll go upmarket HP in the future. Having said that, if there's a Canon printer that is recommend for installation in Ubuntu/Linux then it's good alternative. The only brand name I'd avoid aggressively is Kodak: dubious technology (especially inks) and zero Linux support - this from their support site: 8<--- Q. Can I use my all-in-one printer the with LINUX Operating System? A. All-in-one printers do not support LINUX OS at this time. The all-in-one printers are designed to work with WINDOWS XP, WINDOWS VISTA, and WINDOWS 7 Operating Systems and with MAC OS 10.4.8 or higher. 8<--- Apart from this, Kodak have just filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the states. Eeek! I think the best thing to do would be to Google current printers you may be interested in on Linux forums and sites, and see what people are saying about specific current models. Check to see if there are driver modules and reports of people using them successfully. Unfortunately this list (Ubuntu AU) has too few active posters to really get a representative sample regarding a fairly specialised topic like this (how many of us have just bought a printer?). If anyone has any recommendations though, don't let my last comments put you off... Chris From: Jared Norris To: Paul Gear Cc: Ubuntu AU List Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2012 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Colour MFD recommendations? On 3 February 2012 12:21, Paul Gear wrote: > Hi folks, > > Can anyone recommend a cheap-ish, reliable colour MFD which works with > Ubuntu? We've been using an HP OfficeJet Pro L7300 and have had quite a few > reliability problems on the printing side, and it's more than the cost of > new printer to fix them. > > Essential functions: > > Reliability > Linux & Windows compatible > Scanning > Photo & document printing > > Desirable: > > Network > > Don't care: > > Fax > > Thanks in advance, > Paul > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > I was going to suggest something from the HP range and just suggest you hit your price point as best as you can but it seems that's probably what you did to get that the L7300. I've had a HP PSC2610 for years and it's never missed a beat but it's only home user quality. HP were the only brand I'd ever heard consistently good things about so let us know how your search goes if you don't mind. No one else has any suggestions? -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Anyone having issues installing 12.04?
From: Stephen Rees-Carter To: Chris Robinson Cc: Ubuntu AU List Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Anyone having issues installing 12.04? > I don't think it's a bug - I think someones actually thought it through > (fingers crossed). I think I'll make an effort to verify this next time I > do a test install. >Um... it hangs and cannot proceed any further than that message. I've >left my machine sitting on it for an hour or two, and nothing has >happened. __ Sorry, I missed that. Serves me right for reading email during lunch break on the 9" Asus screen and starting from the middle of a conversation... ___ >It sounds like a really useful feature, given what you've said about >it. Maybe the problem in my case is that my user folder(s) are all >Encrypted? >Maybe it's hanging because of that, but I've never had the issue >before and I've been using Encrypted home directories for years. ___ Actually, yes I can see how that would be a problem, in which case it is indeed a bug if it's not able to handle it a bit more gracefully. It won't be able to do what it needs to do with the encrypted partition, but it shouldn't come to a screaming halt either. _ > By the way, literally doing an install "over the top of" without formating > is a legitimate and useful option for people now. >I haven't tried that option in ages. When I first used it, it always >broke, so I've been doing the clean install trick ever since. >Also, I kinda like having a clean and fresh install every couple of >months. I have a script which installs all my programs and such so I >can easily restore my machine to the same state it was in before I did >the clean install (assuming my home directory is still in tact). _ I've seen it fail here, with 11.04 I think it was. I've found that it can be a great way to recover a system for non-technical users who have a default single partition install - I do suggest it if other fixes a proving too difficult over the forums or Launchpad Q. Of course you tell them to back up data first just in case but I have to wonder how many of them actually do. After all, they just tried to upgrade their systems on line without backing up (usually) and are in the jam because someone pulled the power cord out before it was finished. ___ >To tell you the truth, I've been having so many issues with 12.04. >It's looking the opposite of "super stable" that everyone is going on >about - although a couple of them are issues with my Thinkpad L520 and >the kernel not supporting Sandybridge. ___ Well it's not just you, they've dropped some real clangers early on. I don't think 12.04 is that stable overall yet, and "super stable" doesn't seem to be the best way to describe it. Some bits are great and I really do think they are on the way to a good LTS release. I already think it's faster than 11.10 by a long way, even with all the debug symbols still being part of the compile etc and I'm looking forward to see how the final release goes. I'd only recommend the 12.04 alpha to the seasoned tester at this point however. I have a test install that that was only installed off the alpha 1 image on day one and it's had nothing but updates ever since. The fact that it's still working and still updating is more a matter of good luck than masterful management on my part. If I'm feeling bit clever because I just fixed it (again) I normally only have to wait for the next update to bring me back to reality. I have to configure Xorg manually because I'm running two systems through a KVM switch, and it's give me a really challenge on a couple of occasions - they seem to be playing around with Xorg quite a bit. Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Anyone having issues installing 12.04?
It's been doing that for a while, even if you specify to format the / partition (but re-use the /home partition) My feeling is that it's config stuff like compiz that it's removing. This is a *good*thing* if so, especially if it works this way for an LTS dist upgrade as well. It might stop the mountain of support problems in the forums and launchpad like we had with 11.04 and 11.10, where the old compiz settings completely messed up unity so that things like the launcher and top panel were completely missing. This is going to be a big one, with lots of people upgrading from 10.04 LTS. I don't think it's a bug - I think someones actually thought it through (fingers crossed). I think I'll make an effort to verify this next time I do a test install. By the way, literally doing an install "over the top of" without formating is a legitimate and useful option for people now. For those that did a single partition install they can now install on the same partition without formatting, and conflicting files should be removed but their /home/username will be left intact. In practice I generally don't recommend it as the first option, because I have had a broken system once from doing this as a test. I have recommended it as a repair option with some geat successes. Don't let users do it without backing up data however - bad things or fat fingers can still happen. Chris From: Stephen Rees-Carter To: Ubuntu AU List Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 8:02 AM Subject: Anyone having issues installing 12.04? Hi all, Is anyone testing 12.04 and having issues with the installer? I'm trying to install over the top of an 11.10 install and I keep getting the installer hanging at: "Removing conflicting operating system files". I think it is occurring because I am asking the partitioner to install over the / (root) partition while leaving the /home partition, but I can't confirm as yet. I'm testing at the moment, but it's going to take some time to get it to work. I have a bug report at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/924660 Thanks, ~Stephen -- Stephen Rees-Carter ~ Valorin http://stephen.rees-carter.net/ -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: website pages wanting to be "saved" by Firefox
- Forwarded Message - From: Chris Robinson To: Francis (Grizzly) Smit Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:38 PM Subject: Re: website pages wanting to be "saved" by Firefox The Home page seems to be working at the moment, but there's so many things wrong with that website. I went to the "contact" page and tried to find the closest service center or ATM, and it returned results for the word "search". Hm. Chris From: Francis (Grizzly) Smit To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:53 AM Subject: Re: website pages wanting to be "saved" by Firefox On 02/02/12 08:31, David wrote: > Hi folks, > > LTS 10.04: I checked for updates, which included Firefox updates. I have > never had problems with a bank's website before. Last night all websites > I visited (including other banks' homepages) displayed fine, but now > when trying to visit > www.bankmecu.com.au > I am getting a dialogue box saying something like "you are trying to > open the file home.html - what do you want to do?" Options are to 'open' > with Firefox as default, or 'save'. Choosing 'open' just results in the > file being displayed without styling because its location in the > location bar is a temp folder. The same thing happens when I try to open > any other page of the website by clicking on the links that Google > presents for search term "mecu". > > All other websites open/display fine in the usual way. I have gone to a > Windows computer running Firefox and the bankmecu homepage opens > perfectly normally there. > > Given that fact, is there any point in me asking the bank about it? Does > anyone have an idea what might be happening (since the Firefox update in > Ubuntu), if it could be a problem with Firefox in Ubuntu? > > Thanks > > Dave > It's nothing to do with ubuntu the problem is at their end, they have miss configured their web server, only they can fix it. -- .~. In my life God comes first /V\ but Linux is pretty high after that :-D /( )\ Francis (Grizzly) Smit ^^-^^ http://www.smit.id.au/ -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Selecting Window Managers
I now see what you're saying mate. But do you realize how many window managers and desktop environments are actually available for Ubuntu? I think what you're suggesting could be very dangerous and stupid, particularly when it comes to new users who have no idea what they're getting themselves into. Regards -- Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Selecting Window Managers
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:05:34 +1100 > From: David Bowskill > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Selecting Window Managers > Message-ID: <4f1e826e.4010...@bowskill.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello All > Is it possible on boot-up (11.10) to select from a choice of window > managers - such as lxde, xfce etc ? > > Thanks > David Bowskill > > > > -- > Selecting your desktop environment/window manager is possible in any version of pretty much any Linux distribution already. Can you be more specific of what you mean? Regards -- Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Congratulations Joel Pickett
Indeed, congratulations Joel. Chris From: Joel Addison To: Jared Norris Cc: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2012 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Congratulations Joel Pickett Congratulations Joel! Your translation efforts have been greatly appreciated by everyone. Keep up the great work. Joel Addison On 11/01/2012, at 7:02 AM, Jared Norris wrote: > I just wanted to write a quick email to congratulate Joel Pickett > (sagaci) on last night obtaining Ubuntu Membership. His achievements > with the enAU localisation and contributions to the loco were > recognised as being significant and sustained. It's always good to see > members of the loco being rewarded for their involvements in the loco > and other teams. > > Well done! > > -- > Regards, > > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Window Managers for Kubuntu and Ubuntu
but the fact is that Unity is still evolving and many features that were missing in 11.04 have been quietly fixed for 11.10. For example the issue of task switching with multiple instances of one application and using only the mouse has been addressed. With 11.04 many things could be best done through the keyboard, I suspect because this was the easiest and quickest to implement. As Unity evolves however the GUI features that we expect should be there are being incorporated. I wouldn't say that Unity taken as a whole on first look is a vast improvement over what has gone before, it's often the little things taken altogether that can make a big difference. For example on Classic Gnome, if I wanted to unmount a USB drive but already had an application(s) maximised I had three obvious choices: 1) to minimise all applications and right click on the icon for the drive, 2) Open a terminal window and do it manually, or 3) to switch desktops and right click on the icon there. A less obvious choice was to open another application like file manager and do it from there, but really... With Unity I can unmount a device from the launcher by right-clicking on it's icon in the launcher - slide and click. A little thing, but one you miss when you go back to the Classic interface. Does any know of a simple window manager like that of Apple's which can be used to replace Unity - especially the sliding magnifier tool bar ___ Unity is without a doubt the most Apple-like interface we have. As it is made more configurable I'm sure it will be possible to get it to look more like Apple, if that's what you really want. __ I would be quite happy to stay with 10.04 window manger but that will be phased out in the future. Does anyone else out there feel this ? Hope that this does not put too many noses out of joint. __ I think that the online community in general and the Linux community in particular is much more mature that it was in years past. No one is going to get upset if you don't like Unity, or prefer to use something else. I will say though, that Unity is different enough that it does take a while to get used to it and to understand it. Personally I'm still using 10.04 LTS on my main machine as well, but both Unity and myself have progressed to the point where 12.04 LTS is not looking like the problem it might have seemed to be a year ago when I was looking at the alpha versions of 11.04. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
From: Jared Norris To: Chris Robinson Cc: Dave Hall ; "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest Ah bingo, works like a charm. I'll wait for some updates to hit the repo to double check it actually does work but I've disabled everything but the USB drive and it doesn't throw any errors so that's a good start. Ah, testing might be the easy bit. Just install a new package ;-) If you don't already use it, try installing Gkrellm. It's a little system monitor that I always use because it's light and gets the job done, and is very configurable. It should also install two dependancies for you if you don't already have them on the system. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
I don't have a webserver set up and it needs http or ftp access for apt-get to work it would seem from my brief tests. - No, it looks like you can use local file. Open up software sources ---> other software and hit the add button. Paste the following into your the URI field. If I've got it right it should work and populate the other required fields: deb file:///media/UbuntuAURepository/Ubuntu oneiric main restricted universe multiverse Should do it, assuming I've got the path right. Fingers crossed. Hey, you could _always_ update your machines this way - you'd never have to bother with on line vagaries or slow speeds if the servers are busy. Even the new release ISOs will magically appear one day, assuming you've got the cron job running everyday. I think you could replace "main restricted universe multiverse" with just "all" and it may still work. Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
From: Jared Norris To: Chris Robinson Cc: Dave Hall ; "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2011 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest No idea, I'm a simple end user who knows enough to get himself into trouble and occasionally back out of it ;) -- Ok, see if you have the following directory: /media/UbuntuAUReposito/Ubuntu/archive/indices/ The contents should look at bit like this: override.oneiric-security.main 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-security.main.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:18 23K override.oneiric-security.main.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-security.multiverse 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-security.multiverse.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-security.restricted 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-security.restricted.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-security.universe 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-security.universe.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:18 71 override.oneiric-security.universe.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.extra.main 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.extra.multiverse 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.extra.restricted 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.extra.universe 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.main 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.main.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:18 23K override.oneiric-updates.main.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.multiverse 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.multiverse.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.restricted 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.restricted.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.universe 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric-updates.universe.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:18 1.7K override.oneiric-updates.universe.src 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric.extra.main 31-Dec-2011 00:18 3.5M override.oneiric.extra.multiverse 31-Dec-2011 00:18 2.8M override.oneiric.extra.restricted 31-Dec-2011 00:18 2.8M override.oneiric.extra.universe 31-Dec-2011 00:18 5.2M override.oneiric.main 31-Dec-2011 00:18 245K override.oneiric.main.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:18 23K override.oneiric.main.src 31-Dec-2011 00:18 71K override.oneiric.multiverse 31-Dec-2011 00:18 26K override.oneiric.multiverse.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric.multiverse.src 31-Dec-2011 00:18 14K override.oneiric.restricted 31-Dec-2011 00:18 872 override.oneiric.restricted.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:180 override.oneiric.restricted.src 31-Dec-2011 00:18 483 override.oneiric.universe 31-Dec-2011 00:18 1.0M override.oneiric.universe.debian-installer 31-Dec-2011 00:18 9.1K override.oneiric.universe.src 31-Dec-2011 00:18 396K ad infinitum (or nearly so).I can't see anything in that command that will actually limit it to one or two releases. Did you _really_ get the whole thing? If you've really got the indices (which I think this stuff is) then it might be worth doing the test as I outlined, and see if you can update from it instead of the normal aarnet repos. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
From: Dave Hall To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest That's why you do it with iptables (and possibly some dummy dns entries using dnsmasq). If you rsync the repos you don't have to worry about building the indexes and you can update only the bits which have changed since the initial sync. _ We're trying to update new installs. As far as I'm aware it's necessary to get the software indexes (apt-get update) so that apt-get (or update manage) can get only the required packages and their indexes. Good point though, if the indexes are part of the repositories, and they've been updated fully with rsync, then it might not be necessary to build the index at all - the apt-get system may just be able to use the indexes as is, at the point when they were last rsync'ed. We will just have to give the correct addresses to the various repositories. Jarad? Please enlighten us. ;-) Did you get the indexes along with all those nice .deb packages? If you've got the repo drives plugged into a network somewhere just add them to the software sources (and maybe turn off the normal main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) and give them a spin. Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
From: Dave Hall To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest With a bit of iptables magic you should be able to redirect requests to the Australian mirrors to a local server running nginx which can serve files from a cloned mirror. Internode supports rsync. A simpler alternative is to redirect all outbound port 80 traffic via squid using iptables. _ The problem is the indexing, which is the important bit for dependencies, and I suspect for working out which packages need updating. Apart from that you just need to give the correct address for the various repositories in the 'other software' tab of software sources. Oh, and by the way; if we manage to get this working, then it will be important to change it back after the new system is updated and before the user takes it home! Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
From: Chris Robinson To: Jared Norris Cc: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2011 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest Disk try *Disk tray* One of the few curses of the touch typist - the fingers will at times follow the most familiar word patterns. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
From: Jared Norris To: Chris Robinson Cc: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Friday, 30 December 2011 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest Yeah it sounds like a good idea but I don't know how useful it will actually be. Unfortunately it was someone else's idea, I just happened to implement the "download the whole Ubuntu repository and set up a cron job to rsync every day" part of it. _ Unfortunately it seems to be non-trivial: http://wiki.debian.org/DakHowTo There also appears to be a package called Debarchiver: http://joysofprogramming.com/install-debarchiver-ubuntu/ I think that mostly what they do is generate the package archive indexes, so that the archives can be used as a software source. I shall have play with it tonight. - Exactly. I have a spare stack of CDRs that I'd be willing to take along for people to burn to and keep "just in case". -- I'll bring my external DVD burner along then. Any CD/DVD burner that is more than a few years old is quite likely to be suspect. We'll need to be careful. I tried to install Ubuntu on my Nieces computer over Christmas and ran into a snag: The DVD burner on her 18 month old laptop was so faulty it couldn't burn _any_ disk successfully let along a bootable one. Thank goodness for LiveUSB. (the bug in the 10.04 LTS bootdisk creator didn't help there.) Laptops are the worst - the disk try has the laser and lens incorporated in it and people don't realise that with the try is out they have to be careful not to damage the very soft plastic of the lens. Just dropping a disk on it would be enough to damage it, and add grime and dirt to the mix and it can be a disaster. (Note to the unwary: NEVER clean the laser lens with a cloth or cleaning agents unless you really know what you are doing. It has to be treated with the same (or even more) care than you treat the CCD sensor in a digital camera when cleaning. It's more easily damaged. Never use raw isopropyl alcohol on it ... and don't ask me why I know this not a good idea..) --- I haven't done anything to do with Windows outside using it at the work office in over 5 years so I'm a bit out of date and practice. I was hoping there'd be someone along who knew more than I but worst case scenario I was going to scour https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot for pertinent information. -- Well, I have plenty of experience with Windows, mostly from the repair and recovery POV so we should be OK. What I haven't done a lot of is dual boot installs. I did have one way-back-when I was trying out Ubuntu for the first time. I can't remember resizing partitions though - I think I might have re-installed everything from scratch though it does seem unlikely. Maybe I just let the partitioner run overnight and resize the partitions, and subsequently forgot about it as the years went by. (...had a few sleeps since then...) Thanks for your input, I look forward to see you and others there in just over a week. It should be good. I made sure I had the day off from work, but they weren't too happy about it. ;-) Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest
I don't know about setting up a local repository, but I'll see if I can work something out. It might be as simple as enabling the local drive as a valid source as you do for the install CD, but this doesn't get around the problem of updating the package lists. I'm not sure how that works. There's currently over 200Mb of update downloads required for a typical Oneiric install. I do have a procedure for easily putting these on the target drive at install time so it gets around having to actually download them. (It's a script that you can run alongside the installer) This doesn't get around the need to update the package lists either. Even if we can't update the user's computer at the time of install I recommend we put the files on the target machine to improve the user experience when they get it home, with the warning that it's going to take 15 minutes or so to install all the updates which will have a performance hit. Regardless, I recommend installing without updating, or even with an internet connection present. This speeds things up _immensely_ and the updates can be done later even while the user is using the machine. I have a brand new 1.5Gb USB drive that can be used for backing up data if necessary. It's something I'm used to doing for PC customers for re-installs, including the mail files for Outlook, Express etc. Of course we need to ask before backing up, but most people will not have a problem with this. It's important to ask the question about data and backups before doing anything to a user's computer: In my experience people can have things like years of family photos on the hard drive that they've never bothered backing up, or in some cases have little idea of how to do it. If someone wants Ubuntu installed alongside Windows how are we going to handle this? I haven't done a lot of that, but my recollection is that it can take some time to defrag partitions and move them around, though defragging can speed up the move/resize quite a bit. If time is an issue we might have to be satisfied with a Wubi install, though that can benefit from defragging the Windows partition also. Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2011 7:05 AM Subject: Brisbane Install Fest Good morning, With the InstallFest just over 2 weeks away I thought I'd see if anyone had any better ideas about the technical side of it all. I have the ability to provide the following: * 48 port 10/100 cisco switch * home network gateway for internet (I'd probably only really suggest using it to connect to the aarnet mirrors as the library wifi is only for library members). * power cables and power boards * 2 desktop setups for people to come along and plug desktops in to install if they like (I'll bring monitors, keyboard and mice) * Install CDs and USBs * 10 random length network patch cables I also have an external USB hard drive that has a local copy of the entire Ubuntu repository. The only problem is that I haven't had the chance to get in and play with it so I don't have the technical capability of setting it up on a lan as a local repository. Is there a volunteer willing to own that pet project for the day? Anyone else have any other ideas? -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
InstallFest poster
I've uploaded my InstallFest Poster to spreadubuntu: http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/poster/loco-installfest-poster Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane InstallFest Update
I've just added the information to InfoXchange Australia: http://www.communitynews.infoxchange.net.au/news/output.chtml?filename_num=393345 It has to go to moderation but hopefully won't stay in limbo for too long. Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2011 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane InstallFest Update And (sorry this information only came through just now), I just received an email to let me know the event has been successfully added to the ABC Brisbane Event calendar [0]. If anyone else can think of anywhere else we can post this to please either let me know or feel free to add it yourself. The main details are: * it should link to the loco.u.c event page as the details (I just copied and pasted the details from there to the "about" section to save rewriting it) * if you don't want to put your own contact details feel free to use my public email address - jarednor...@ubuntu.com * let everyone know on the mailing list where it's posted! [0] http://www2b.abc.net.au/EventCentral/View/Event.aspx?ci=0&p=0&e=8487522 -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest Poster
Here's mine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings/BrisbaneInstallfest?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=A3poster2small.png I think I'm having trouble getting my head around this wiki... Chris From: Jared Norris To: boden.matth...@gmail.com Cc: Chris Robinson ; ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest Poster On 20 November 2011 17:07, wrote: > Hey Jared, > You wouldn't mind uploading the SVG somewhere would you? I want to have a > little play around with the poster. > > -- Sent from my HP TouchPad. Please excuse any brevity or typos. I've just put it up on the wiki [0]. It looks a bit funny but when you download the svg it should be fine. Most browsers do a poor job of rendering svg apparently. If you're going to attach it back to the wiki page please just alter the filename enough that it doesn't overwrite other contributions. I should have done this from the start, everyone can feel free to edit it as need be but please be mindful of all the licensing issues. If you're not sure what they are please read the guidelines section on the Artwork project page [1]. [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings/BrisbaneInstallfest?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=BrisbaneInstallFestPoster.svg [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Artwork -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest Poster
Oops, it's actually A3, at 300 dpi so could scale to almost anything you could want. Chris From: Chris Robinson To: Jared Norris ; "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Install Fest Poster More of poster to have around on the day: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=A4poster1small.png I'm looking at the advertising poster now... Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Brisbane Install Fest Poster Good afternoon, In an attempt to inspire others to do better than I can, I've made a quick knock up of a promotional poster for the Brisbane Installation Festival in January. Suggestions are more then welcome, my graphic design skills are limited at best but wanted to get the ball rolling. I haven't uploaded the svg as yet but if you're willing to contribute let me know and I'll put it somewhere we can all have a play. I will not be upset if you feel starting over is the best course of action either. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings/BrisbaneInstallfest?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=BrisbaneInstallFestPoster1.png -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Install Fest Poster
More of poster to have around on the day: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=A4poster1small.png I'm looking at the advertising poster now... Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Brisbane Install Fest Poster Good afternoon, In an attempt to inspire others to do better than I can, I've made a quick knock up of a promotional poster for the Brisbane Installation Festival in January. Suggestions are more then welcome, my graphic design skills are limited at best but wanted to get the ball rolling. I haven't uploaded the svg as yet but if you're willing to contribute let me know and I'll put it somewhere we can all have a play. I will not be upset if you feel starting over is the best course of action either. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings/BrisbaneInstallfest?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=BrisbaneInstallFestPoster1.png -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu-AU November 2011 IRC Meeting
From: Jared Norris To: Chris Robinson Cc: Joel Addison ; "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" ; Joel Pickett Sent: Sunday, 13 November 2011 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Ubuntu-AU November 2011 IRC Meeting I could be wrong, but that looks like a good idea for the localised CD image. I had just been planning to use the generic Ubuntu install CDs to reduce to time overhead for the day but if the localised CD image project is off the ground and spinning ISOs by then that might be another idea. __ Sure, just tell me what resolution is required and what text you want to put on it and I'll do up a CD label image. I figured that we might want to re-use this for other things so made sure that I kept the multi layer xcf file unmerged so it will be a piece of cake. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu-AU November 2011 IRC Meeting
Sounds good. The grub2 splash screen for the install fest can be downloaded from here: http://hotkey.net.au/~robinson_adsl/locoau.tar.gz It's about 700kb. There's a dark theme and a light theme (for those that just have to) but the dark theme was the intended outcome. Chris From: Jared Norris To: Joel Addison Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Ubuntu-AU November 2011 IRC Meeting On 10 November 2011 23:19, Joel Addison wrote: > Hi everyone, > Firstly, sorry for this late reminder about the meeting. > The November Ubuntu-AU Team IRC meeting will be held this Sunday 13 Nov, > starting at 8pm AEST (9pm AEDST). It will be held in the #ubuntu-au IRC > channel as usual. Please look at the agenda > at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/242/detail/, and add any other > topics you would like to discuss at the meeting. > See you then, > Joel Addison > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > I've added the Brisbane Ubuntu InstallFest to the list of things to talk about, if enough people turn up are interested talking about it we can hold a planning meeting straight after the main team meeting to get started organising the day. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Installation Festival
I agree, the library is sounding good. I've now got a multiboot USB set up with a range of releases, LTS 32 bit, 11.10 Ubuntu and Lubuntu etc. I've done a splash screen for the grub on it using the Ubuntu AU loco logo with "Ubuntu AU Loco Team" on the bottom left. I got the logo off the Website and worked it into a 1024x768 background. I think I need to credit the original work and add the license etc for it to the multiboot USB if it's for general use. I looked on the website but could find no information about the originator of the Ubuntu AU logo. Can someone point me in the right direction please? I'll post the background and the license somewhere accessible when it's ready. Chris. From: Jessica Bogaart To: Jared Norris Cc: Chris Robinson ; "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2011 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Brisbane Installation Festival Hi guys I think the library option is probably a good way to go - much more economical, though they shouldn't charge us anything as it's a community event and we're not charging anyone anything. I called the Brisbane Square library a few days after the release party and asked them about it - they couldn't confirm available dates in January then, but I'm sure that they could now. My vote is holding it at Brisbane Square, if we can't secure funding for The Edge - it's central and close to public transport (but might not be so convenient for those with cars... though it is a nice walk over Victoria Bridge!). Anyway, I'm happy to chip in with organisation, promotion and cup cakes, and Vadim will be there to help with the technical stuff on the day. We should probably lock something in sooner rather than later, though. I had the impression that these things fill up quickly, particularly in the school holidays. A lot of workplaces are closed for the first week of January (including mine) so holding it on a weekday wouldn't be a problem for us. Weekends might draw more people, though. Jessica On 31 October 2011 18:13, Jared Norris wrote: On 31 October 2011 18:04, Chris Robinson wrote: >> A category 1 meeting room would seem to fit the bill nicely, and the costs >> are quite reasonable - we could cover that with just a chook raffle (just >> kidding). I note that it says laptop connectivity, but it doesn't actually >> say internet connection. > >It seems to suggest you can do it for free if you're a community >organisation and not charging money for the event. Unless I'm reading >it wrong. Either way, the whole day costs less than an hour at The >Edge so I'd be willing to stump up the lot if need be. > > >> >> Regarding planning and funding: Plan the cart you would like to push out to >> start with, then see if any horses come along. As far as manpower is >> concerned, there's no problem here - I will be there. >> > >Good to hear! I'm hoping if we can lock in a date and time it will >help others decide if they can be there or not as well. > > >> I've got a script that I just wrote to make updating a new installation a >> little more painless. You do the new install from the "try ubuntu" boot >> and with no internet connection (so the install only takes about 15 minutes) >> and when you run the script it puts all the current .deb files into the >> correct directory on the target. When the system is then logged in and >> updated it only has to download the software lists and update the cache - >> all the updates are already there. If the target directory has not been >> created by ubiquity the script waits until it is. As an extra benefit it >> works with any release, based on the major kernel version, you just need to >> have the .deb files for any release that you want to update. (and of course >> I have a creation tool for the archives as well.) > >I've also been working on keeping a full ubuntu repository sitting on >my USB hard drive. It should make needing internet not required for >99% of the installations. I also have a Telstra home network gateway >(that is essentially a 4 port wireless broadband switch) for any weird >ones that pop up. > > >> I'm happy to have some meetings regarding this, is an IRC meeting suitable? > >IRC, wiki, mailing list. Anything sounds good to me. I would >definitely like a mock run through a week or two prior (even if it's >my place) to reduce technical issues on the day. > >> >> Chris >> > >Lets see if we can't make this happen. > > >-- >Regards, > >Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au >-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Installation Festival
A category 1 meeting room would seem to fit the bill nicely, and the costs are quite reasonable - we could cover that with just a chook raffle (just kidding). I note that it says laptop connectivity, but it doesn't actually say internet connection. Regarding planning and funding: Plan the cart you would like to push out to start with, then see if any horses come along. As far as manpower is concerned, there's no problem here - I will be there. I've got a script that I just wrote to make updating a new installation a little more painless. You do the new install from the "try ubuntu" boot and with no internet connection (so the install only takes about 15 minutes) and when you run the script it puts all the current .deb files into the correct directory on the target. When the system is then logged in and updated it only has to download the software lists and update the cache - all the updates are already there. If the target directory has not been created by ubiquity the script waits until it is. As an extra benefit it works with any release, based on the major kernel version, you just need to have the .deb files for any release that you want to update. (and of course I have a creation tool for the archives as well.) I'm happy to have some meetings regarding this, is an IRC meeting suitable? Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, 31 October 2011 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane Installation Festival On 20 October 2011 07:13, Jared Norris wrote: > Good morning, > > Well we've been postulating the idea of an installfest for Brisbane > for quite some time now. I think it's time to start planning it for > real. I've emailed The Edge to see availability again and I'm starting > to put the feelers out for some one to help cover the costs of the > day. I've started a wiki page [0] to start planning and I think we > need to discuss the possibility of having some extra meetings or get > togethers to organise this. Let me know what you think. > > [0] > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings/BrisbaneInstallfest > > -- > Regards, > > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > I've begun to realise there is a bit of a horse and cart problem here. No one wants to fund us until they see it all planned out, but it appears people aren't really willing to start planning if they aren't sure it's going to happen. A suggestion brought up on IRC the other night by James (bejames) was to hold it at just a normal Brisbane City Council library instead of at The Edge. According to their website [0] it would appear they offer conference rooms for free for community groups. There are downsides to this as well as positives so I wanted to run the idea past the team before committing one way or another. Anyone have any thoughts one way or the other? [0] http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/facilities-recreation/libraries/hiring-library-meeting-rooms/index.htm#2 -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
[Bug 872839] Re: no localised Australian CD ISO
OK, what do we need to do this? I guess a desktop image with a more Australian theme? Don't we need to stay with the default colours as much as possible, otherwise we risk breaking the default theme?. As a photographer I have a few ideas about this, along the the lines of a very photo-shopped and abstracted image. Also the Australian translations which I understand are in progress. Do we have to spin the ISO ourselves, or is there an official process? Chris -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Australian Team, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/872839 Title: no localised Australian CD ISO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/872839/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Brisbane Release Party
Thanks to Jared for organising the Oneiric release party for Brisbane. We went to the Breakfast Creek Hotel and partook of some cold beverages and finger food. Among the many things discussed were the plans for the Ubuntu Install Fest. Watch this space. Everyone stayed until nearly 5 o'clock (the table was booked for the evening sitting!) and drove home in the thunderstorm. I've put some photos on the group flickr page here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13346665@N04/sets/72157627897507662/with/6246135820/ Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane Release Party
Not so much keen, as the fact that I finish work at Virginia at 11.30. Even with staying back a bit and taking my time, I'm still here just before 1PM. Oh well, I'll have a look around. It's hot and steamy here at the moment, so outdoors might be the go (or inside in the aircon maybe). Look out for the short nerdy guy in blue jeans and a brown T-shirt, with glasses and carrying a camera bag and a 9" netbook. ;-) Chris From: Jared Norris To: Chris Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Brisbane Release Party On 15 October 2011 06:04, Chris Robinson wrote: > Appropriately enough, I just managed to get the new release of 11.10 onto my > EeePC yesterday afternoon. I shall bring it along in case anyone wants to > have a play. > Is there a reservation at the BCH or do I mill around looking for Ubuntu > shirts? :-) > I should be there at 12.00 or shortly after, depending on the traffic. > Chris > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > Wow that's keen, we're not due to start until 2pm. We've got less than 20 confirmed going so I haven't made a booking as a hotel that size should be able to handle those sorts of numbers and most of the booking options I found online for the hotel wanted you to prepay some of your costs. Looking at today's weather some where undercover or indoors sounds like a good idea but yeah, just look for some random strangers trying to look out for other random strangers. I will be in a Ubuntu polo but won't be there until 1:30 - 2 or so. If you're having problems finding the group and you have access to email or irc just pop into the ubuntu-au channel or shoot an email to the list. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Brisbane Release Party
Appropriately enough, I just managed to get the new release of 11.10 onto my EeePC yesterday afternoon. I shall bring it along in case anyone wants to have a play. Is there a reservation at the BCH or do I mill around looking for Ubuntu shirts? :-) I should be there at 12.00 or shortly after, depending on the traffic. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: oops
From: Geoff To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, 14 October 2011 3:46 PM Subject: oops I seem to have lost the status bar on my gnome desktop version 2:32:1. ( the bar where minimized programs go to) Where do I find it again? Geoff _ Hi Geoff, it's called the taskbar. Try the following commands: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel pkill gnome-panel You should now have the taskbar back and working. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Oneiric bug stomping
Problem solved - it is now part of the 'system settings' in 'removable media'. If you uncheck 'Never prompt or start programs on media insertion' then Nautilus won't start when you plug in a pendrive or other USB drive. This is counter intuitive if you're coming from earlier releases, when the setting was separate and part of Nautilus itself. It would still be nice to have a separate setting, but this behaviour meets my criteria anyway (I don't like the computer to start opening things as soon as I insert a DVD or pendrive no matter what it is.) Chris. From: Chris Robinson To: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2011 7:32 AM Subject: Oneiric bug stomping Oneiric is coming along nicely, but as you'd expect with all the changes we've seen this year there's still still a lot of things that seem to need addressing. I've been busy testing and putting in bug reports, but complete crashes are non-existent. Vastly different from the Natty release. One thing that really puzzles me is that in Nautilus the media tab has been completely removed. This was the only place where you could disable the "browse media when inserted". If you're working in command line and insert a USB stick to get some files or do a backup Nautilus will open over your active terminal window and there's no way to stop it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/840680 This has my votes for both the most annoying bug, and the most puzzling omission from Oneiric. Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Oneiric bug stomping
Oneiric is coming along nicely, but as you'd expect with all the changes we've seen this year there's still still a lot of things that seem to need addressing. I've been busy testing and putting in bug reports, but complete crashes are non-existent. Vastly different from the Natty release. One thing that really puzzles me is that in Nautilus the media tab has been completely removed. This was the only place where you could disable the "browse media when inserted". If you're working in command line and insert a USB stick to get some files or do a backup Nautilus will open over your active terminal window and there's no way to stop it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/840680 This has my votes for both the most annoying bug, and the most puzzling omission from Oneiric. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Brisbane Release Party
Only 6 sleeps to go. Hope to see all the Brisbanites there. Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane release party - Oneiric Ocelot
Google Maps: -27.440726,153.045615 There's a large carpark out the back on the Satellite photo. Access is from Amy St or Higgs St. It looks a lot better than last time I went there, which was admittedly a long time ago. Chris. From: Jared Norris To: Chris Robinson Cc: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane release party - Oneiric Ocelot > Sounds good. Make the release part close to public transport maybe? If > parking is freely available I may be travelling from Bribie Is if anyone > wants a lift - but I work in Virginia on Saturday mornings. > > Chris > Ok, I've just put up a quick poll [0] for everyone in Brisbane to quickly select the best timeframe for a social release party. I will do some further investigation into an InstallFest and think about organising one early/mid November to give us a bit of time between the events. We need to lock this in so the poll will stay open for a week from tonight. By Tuesday next week the poll will be closed and the date announced. So that's one thing taken care of. Now for the location. I'm happy to go back to the brekky creek hotel if this was a popular option? How's parking there? [0] http://www.doodle.com/p8ut7i8hrh4ibct7 -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane release party - Oneiric Ocelot
From: Jared Norris To: Anthony Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Brisbane release party - Oneiric Ocelot Sounds like a good find. Quick, add it to the team's loco.u.c page and start promoting ;) Regarding Brisbane's efforts, what do people thinking about just holding a social release party at a place to be determined and then separately holding an installation festival at a later date rather than trying to bunch it all in on one day? to the people at The Edge they seem to think it would be the sort of event they'd be able to run, they could even help promote it and provide resources. It's just been brought up that it might be a bit difficult to manage both events on the one day and upon thinking about it I tend to agree. Other people's thoughts? === Sounds good. Make the release part close to public transport maybe? If parking is freely available I may be travelling from Bribie Is if anyone wants a lift - but I work in Virginia on Saturday mornings. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Brisbane release party - Oneiric Ocelot
Yep count me in. Presumably it should be somewhere with power and Wifi available? Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Brisbane release party - Oneiric Ocelot Good afternoon, I thought it's probably able time we start thinking about where and when we should hold our next release party up here in Brisbane seems how Sydney already has one planned. It is going to be released on October the 13th according to the release schedule so I was thinking something on Saturday the 15th or Sunday the 16th would probably be the best. Anyone have any suggestions on where/when would be a good time? Lets start brainstorming. Other cities should start thinking about this to, feel free to start a mailing list thread for each city that wants to hold a release party. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Fwd: Mission Statement
Thanks, I hadn't realised that I didn't hit "reply all" Chris From: Sam L To: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" ; "fabricat...@yahoo.com" Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 11:22 AM Subject: Fwd: Mission Statement G'day Chris, Forwarding this to the list for you. Sam-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Bug #819201
Hello fellow Ubuntu'ers. I've just filed bug #807455 against update manager, specifically the Oneiric Alpha2 release. It's just a cosmetic issue with the window that is supposed to show download progress for the individual files, but it's been hanging around since the Natty Alphas. If anyone is observing the same thing please click the "me too" link. I think it's a minor cosmetic fix that should be simple to implement, but it looks silly the way it is now. I've got a few similar bugs to file against update manager. It just doesn't look professional at present. Full link to the Launchpad page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/819201 Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: memory
- Original Message From: Geoff To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 31 July, 2011 12:52:14 PM Subject: memory Hi there, Can anyone recommend a system memory manager/tweaker program? Geoff. Hi Geoff, The layered architecture of the Linux system makes it close to impossible to manipulate memory usage. A program can request memory or release it, but beyond that the kernel controls what gets allocated, how it is released, and how it is cleaned up. To put it another way, above the hardware there is a memory manager which pools all physical and virtual memory, and this resource is shared and controlled by the memory manager. All memory therefore looks like virtual memory beyond this point, including (especially!) for programs in user space. Any data you can get from the system about memory usage therefore deals with this "virtual" memory space. It's possible to reserve some physical memory so that the memory manager and the kernel cannot use it (with badram), but that would mean that it would not be available to user space or kernel space at all. The purpose of badram is so that you can tell the system to not use damaged parts of a memory array - very nifty. I like to use Gkrellm to monitor my system generally and top can give useful information about more specific memory usage amongst other things. What did you actually want to be able to do? Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane
- Original Message From: Jared Norris To: Chris Robinson Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 2:16:34 PM Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Coffee shop sounds interesting, anyone on the list know of a coffee shop that has lots of space (so wiling to give us some) that has high traffic (in or near a shopping centre or similar) that might be interested in helping out? - How about these guys: http://www.metroarts.com.au/ This one looks interesting, and it's very busy on the weekends: http://www.thegunshopcafe.com/profile/the-cafe Could also try Hogsbreath Cafe at (say) Aspley. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
SFD
It's software freedom day everywhere. :-) Currently there are no registered events in SA according to the map on the SFD website. You could try organising one - maybe contact the local LUG and see if they are interested in helping... Chris From: Terry Brock To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 11:08:39 PM Subject: Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 65, Issue 19 Is there going to be a Software freedom day in SA.. Regards Terry On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:30 PM, wrote: Send ubuntu-au mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-au-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-au-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-au digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Software Freedom Day - Brisbane (Jared Norris) > 2. Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane (Chris Robinson) > 3. Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane (Jared Norris) > > >-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:22:01 +1000 >From: Jared Norris >To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Good afternoon Ubuntu-AU'ers, > >I was wondering if anyone in Brisbane would be interested in helping >out with a SFD event on Saturday the 17th September. For those of you >not sure what SFD is check out the link [0]. I have asked for interest >on the HUMBUG list to no avail so was wondering if there was enough >support from just Ubuntu-AU to go it alone in Brisbane or not. > >If anyone wants to organise (or join in an already organised event - >see this map [1] for locations already confirmed) please feel free to >start a new email thread on the list. > >[0] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ >[1] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2011 > >-- >Regards, > >Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > > > >-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:00:04 -0700 (PDT) >From: Chris Robinson >To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane >Message-ID: > <1311926404.83003.yahoomai...@web114710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Sure, count me in. I wanted to organise something but I've been flat out with >work the last few weeks. > >Hopefully I can be there the whole day, but in the worst case I'll be there from >about 12:00 on (after work). I'll try to get the whole day free however. > >What location did you have in mind? > >Chris. > > > >- Original Message >From: Jared Norris >To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 1:22:01 PM >Subject: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane > >Good afternoon Ubuntu-AU'ers, > >I was wondering if anyone in Brisbane would be interested in helping >out with a SFD event on Saturday the 17th September. For those of you >not sure what SFD is check out the link [0]. I have asked for interest >on the HUMBUG list to no avail so was wondering if there was enough >support from just Ubuntu-AU to go it alone in Brisbane or not. > >If anyone wants to organise (or join in an already organised event - >see this map [1] for locations already confirmed) please feel free to >start a new email thread on the list. > >[0] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ >[1] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2011 > >-- >Regards, > >Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > >-- >ubuntu-au mailing list >ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > > > >-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:28:13 +1000 >From: Jared Norris >To: Chris Robinson >Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >On 29 July 2011 18:00, Chris Robinson wrote: >> Sure, count me in. ?I wanted to organise something but I've been flat out with >> work the last few weeks. >> >> Hopefully I can be there the whole day, but in the worst case I'll be there >>from >> about 12:00 on (af
Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane
- Original Message From: Jared Norris To: Chris Robinson Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 6:28:13 PM Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Chris, Good to see you're keen. As for the venue I had a couple of ideas but nothing solid, so far I was thinking either we could try to find a computer market, a general market, shopping centre or library to invade for the day. The problem with that is I have no idea how good the local Brisbane computer market is, does anyone have any feedback on if it's well attended? == Hi Jared, I think the markets are on Sunday, I can't find mention of a Saturday market. It might be a bit hit-or-miss, but you'd expect at least 120-150 through the door at any of the venues, possibly a lot more. The Library idea sounds interesting. How about taking over a coffee shop for the day? Find a nice trendy one with plenty of space that wouldn't mind a bunch of geeks talking to their customers, and maybe setting up a laptop or two. The QUT open day is this Sunday, unfortunately I could not get organised in time, and it doesn't really fit into the SFD anyway... Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane
Sure, count me in. I wanted to organise something but I've been flat out with work the last few weeks. Hopefully I can be there the whole day, but in the worst case I'll be there from about 12:00 on (after work). I'll try to get the whole day free however. What location did you have in mind? Chris. - Original Message From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 1:22:01 PM Subject: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Good afternoon Ubuntu-AU'ers, I was wondering if anyone in Brisbane would be interested in helping out with a SFD event on Saturday the 17th September. For those of you not sure what SFD is check out the link [0]. I have asked for interest on the HUMBUG list to no avail so was wondering if there was enough support from just Ubuntu-AU to go it alone in Brisbane or not. If anyone wants to organise (or join in an already organised event - see this map [1] for locations already confirmed) please feel free to start a new email thread on the list. [0] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ [1] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2011 -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: saying hi
Hi Geoff, Welcome to the world of FOSS (free open source software). What release of Ubuntu did the computer shop install for you? Did they set up a separate /home partition? I'm also curious as to what they charged you for installing Ubuntu? Since an Ubuntu install takes less than half the time to install compared to Windows they should have been quite pleased ;-) Chris - Original Message From: Geoff To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Mon, 25 July, 2011 1:57:19 PM Subject: saying hi Hi there, I am saying hi to all you Ubuntu Aussies out there. I am new to Linux/Ubuntu. Like many I just got sick of everything Microsoft. I had my computer shop put Ubuntu on my computer and have been slowly learning and exploring this new world ever since . So far I must say that I am a born again convert ha ha I love it. Every time I think of a piece of software that I could use like a system tool I go to the Ubuntu software centre and usually there one is waiting for me. Anyway I just wanted to say hi and touch base. Regards, Geoff. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: compiling d1x-rebirth (Descent source port) for ubuntu 10.04
- Original Message From: Tom Sparks To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Mon, 4 July, 2011 12:29:03 PM Subject: Re: compiling d1x-rebirth (Descent source port) for ubuntu 10.04 tom@tom-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libpulse-dev The following packages have unmet dependencies: libpulse-dev: Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14) but 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14.1 is to be installed Depends: libpulse-mainloop-glib0 (= 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14) but 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14.1 is to be installed Depends: libpulse-browse0 (= 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14) but 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14.1 is to be installed --- Hi Tom, it seems that the development packages (-dev) are broken in some way Have a look at the text files that should have come with source files to see if there's some information on how to proceed. Failing that, try searching the DXX-Rebirth forums and see if there's any information there: http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/frm/index.php Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: compiling d1x-rebirth (Descent source port) for ubuntu 10.04
Well the dependency is an installable package: chris@chris-lucid:~$ apt-cache search "libpulse-dev" libpulse-dev - PulseAudio client development headers and libraries Since it's a development package relying on other development packages and not stable, I guess the devs have left the sub dependancies for the person doing the compiling to figure out. Just install the dependencies and try compiling again: sudo apt-get install libpulse-dev should do it Chris - Original Message From: Tom Sparks To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 9:25:49 AM Subject: compiling d1x-rebirth (Descent source port) for ubuntu 10.04 I am trying to compile d1x-rebirth[1] for ubuntu 10.04 here is the list of packages I need to install before i can compile dx1-rebirth gcc scons libsdl1.2-dev libphysfs-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libglu1-mesa-dev but i get stopped by unresolvable depends error libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libpulse-dev but it is not going to be installed libsdl-mixer1.2-dev: Depends: libsdl1.2-dev but it is not going to be installed Depends: libsmpeg-dev but it is not going to be installed I has asked about the issue on dxx-rebirths forums at [2], still waiting a reply [1] http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/ [2] http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/frm/index.php/topic,1004.0.html -- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1.2 Wanted: RiscOS system, GEOS system (C64/C128), Atari ST, Apple Macintosh (68k/PPC only) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Flash player installation via Synaptic
- Original Message From: Paul Gear To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 12:11:02 AM Subject: Re: Flash player installation via Synaptic On 02/07/11 21:54, Chris Robinson wrote: > If it's Firefox, get the flash-aid plugin: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/ > and let it run. It's sorts out flash problems for most people. If there's already a version of flash installed through the package manager, you don't want to do this. Installing through synaptic, etc. is usually preferred, although i can understand why some people might want to do it independently of the package management system, since Flash breaks so frequently. Paul --- In cases where flash from the package manager is broken, I've found flash-aid fixes it, and it stays fixed (since I installed it on Lucid on my netbook more than a year ago). It uninstalls the broken version and installs one that works, and keeps it updated. Highly recommended. It might not install an OSE version of flash, but it's the easiest fix to recommend. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Flash player installation via Synaptic
If it's Firefox, get the flash-aid plugin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/ and let it run. It's sorts out flash problems for most people. Chris - Original Message From: David To: Ubuntu Sent: Sat, 2 July, 2011 9:34:21 PM Subject: Flash player installation via Synaptic Hi, I would like to install Flash player (YouTube tells me to install the player) but am not sure which package to grab. Synaptic shows flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package) and flashplugin-installer - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer Which should I take? Thanks, Dave -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: [Solved I think] installing xubuntu on Acer Veriton 2800
- Original Message From: Tom Sparks To: Chris Robinson Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 26 June, 2011 10:04:06 PM Subject: re: [Solved I think] installing xubuntu on Acer Veriton 2800 Xubuntu 11.04 works, I think the CD is reporting itself as xubuntu 10.04 (strange) That's odd, I recently installed Xubuntu and it seemed to be reporting as 11.04. In what area did it say it was 10.04? Glad it seems to be working for you however. >gparted has reported the hard drive has bad sectors in NTFS filesystem :( >Noo! You Microsoft bastards , where is my Windows >XP CD.. Actually, bad sectors may be indicating a problem with the hard drive. It would really pay to look at the Smart status of the drive and keep close tabs on it. Also do regular backups of any important data. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu-AU Loco Mission Statement and Team Goals
Hi all, Firstly, apologies for not being as active as I would have liked to be: it's been a very busy work week for me since I started the discussion pages on the wiki. It's good to see some response on the wiki pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamGoals and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MissionStatement I'm sure there's others who have some ideas on the Mission Statement and team goals: I think we need more people involved if possible. It doesn't have to be on the wiki, using this list might be easier for many. Chris.-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
re: installing xubuntu on Acer Veriton 2800
- Original Message From: Tom Sparks To: Chris Robinson Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 4:21:23 PM Subject: Re: installing xubuntu on Acer Veriton 2800 RAM: 2Gb this the error message I get " acer-wmi: no or unsupported wmi interface _ It might be related to this bug in lauchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/586391 You should add information to the bug if possible. >I have booted Knoppix, it works, >I read the how to installing to hard drive and said F*** THAT You could try Lubuntu or Xubuntu 11.04 just to see if the problem is still there in an 11.04 kernel. Lubuntu is a little light for me, but it might be perfect for a P4 machine if it works. Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: installing xubuntu on Acer Veriton 2800
How much RAM do you have? Acer shipped some of these units with a really stingy amount of RAM, like 256Mb or even 128Mb. If this is the case I can offer some suggestions about how to get the machine working with a 'buntu distro. Chris. - Original Message From: Tom Sparks To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 5:49:54 PM Subject: installing xubuntu on Acer Veriton 2800 I am attempting to install xubuntu 10.04 on Acer Veriton 2800 the live CD (10.04) stalls/crash just before the gui loads, but the mouse cursor is displayed i've just left the computer on, the monitor went into power saving mode when I move the mouse the xubuntu background image is displayed, but with no menu bar -- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1.2 Wanted: RiscOS system, GEOS system (C64/C128), Atari ST, Apple Macintosh (68k/PPC only) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Ubuntu-AU Loco Mission Statement and Team Goals
Subsequent to writing the discussion page for the Mission Statement I've also added one for the question as to whether we should set some team goals and also place them on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamGoals This also stems from the discussion that occurred on the Ubuntu-AU forum Please discuss! From: Chris Robinson To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 19 June, 2011 11:08:52 AM Subject: Discussion: Ubuntu-AU Loco Mission Statement Hello list... Subsequent to a discussion on the Ubuntu-AU forum : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10952875 and a discussion with Jared I have proposed a couple of topics for the next meeting: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/111/detail/ I've also added a discussion topic to the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MissionStatement Please add your thoughts to this topic here or on the wiki page! Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Discussion: Ubuntu-AU Loco Mission Statement
Hello list... Subsequent to a discussion on the Ubuntu-AU forum : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10952875 and a discussion with Jared I have proposed a couple of topics for the next meeting: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/111/detail/ I've also added a discussion topic to the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MissionStatement Please add your thoughts to this topic here or on the wiki page! Chris From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 11:32:57 PM Subject: Ubuntu-AU going for Approval Good evening, As discussed on the mailing list and again at the meeting tonight it has been decided that we will do our best to update the team approval page [1] and after 2 weeks we will submit it for approval by the council. I think we've address most of the original issues listed as reasons for not being approved listed at [2].The idea being that the worst that can happen is that we're told what we still need to do to gain approval but the best that can happen is that we're re-approved. If anyone wants to add to the application please log on to [1] and add any relevant information. If you're not sure if what you want to add is relevant just shoot it to the list and we can discuss it if need be. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Approval2011 [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2010-May/006166.html Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu-AU going for Approval
From: Jared Norris To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 11:32:57 PM Subject: Ubuntu-AU going for Approval - Hi Jared, just a couple of glaring inaccuracies I found from looking at the Aproval2011 page: *** Following the link for "Relevant Resources: Local CD Distribution" to ubuntu.net.au, that page still talks about the now defunct shipit service as an alternative. While I'm on the subject, I was one of the people who took advantage of Peter's CD service as I have limited bandwidth, and at the time I was having trouble staying below this. The CD was posted almost immediately and turned up in a very timely manner. The CD was also packaged appropriately (plastic case) and worked perfectly. This service was very much appreciated, especially since the $3 charged barely seems enough to cover materials, postage, and wear & tear on equipment. *** Under "Planned activities" it lists "Software Freedom Day 2010". I can only assume that this is a typo. This section also needs more substance - specific dates and more detail. I'm sure there are also activities already being undertaken that could be added. Would it be appropriate to add in things like IRC meetings etc. While I understand the problems of planning months in advance, it would show commitment. Chris-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 3g modem issue (MF668)
> * I am think they are living in a black spot, they use moblie phones so that >seams unlikely Not really, being able to talk on a mobile phone and being able to use 3G are completely different issues. In my experience if you have anything less than 50% signal strength your ability to use 3G can be seriously compromised, or non-existent. I have an Optus PAYG SIM that I use in a USB 3G modem (Huawei E160E) and also inserted directly into my Eee PC. The Huawei gives a LED indication of when 3G is active (Blue) or if it has had to downtrain to GPRS due to poor signal strength/bandwith. At home, it's very rare to get full 3G connection and speed during busy times - after 3.30PM on weekdays and on Sunday afternoon, that sort of thing. At other times it can be blindingly fast if I do manage to get a 3G connection such as at 2AM. So, my ability to use the Optus 3G network can vary from completely unusable (similar to what you are seeing) to blindingly fast. Fortunately I got the 3G wireless to get internet while traveling and have a wired connection for home use which keeps the frustration to a minimum. The Optus 3G seems to work very well in most towns I go to. To test the 3G modem you need to take it to a place where there's excellent signal strength. If it works there (and it should) but not at your friend's place then you have a 3G coverage issue. You should be able to get your money back on the spend is the product is not suitable for the intended location. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: NetworkManager Applet 0.8 Icon
It seems (from the logs) that it wasn't able to correctly download the indexes for the repositories, so it may have been confused about what it was to delete. Also, I'm not sure installing over the top of a previous version is actually supported, even though it lets you install without formatting. I've had one failed install with the exact same results as you. Someone else (on Ubuntu Forums) was able to do this fine, which was good because their /home was on the same partition as /. Some people are born lucky. :-) It's not guaranteed to work, and my feeling is that 11.04 as it is on the LiveCD is quite buggy. None of my installs have worked properly until I managed to run the updates, and that goes for both Ubuntu 11.04 and Xubuntu 11.04 - The LiveCDs won't even work on one of my machines. I'd bet that if you do a proper clean install and format / then it will be fine. If you get errors but the system is still working, run the updates and you should be fine. The same thing goes if you can't start the desktop environment but can get a terminal to do the updates. Also, before you install from the LiveCD you should check the MD5SUM as published. Having the "LiveCD work flawlessly" is no guarantee that you got a good download or did a good burn, or that the installer will work correctly. I generally check the MD5SUM of the downloaded ISO, and then burn it (if I'm doing so - USB installs are standard for me now) at the slowest rate, then check the burnt disk for errors. Chris. From: Simon Ives To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tue, 7 June, 2011 10:03:30 AM Subject: Re: NetworkManager Applet 0.8 Icon Hi all. I'm having a little difficulty with a freshish install of Natty. I'm attempting to install a fresh copy over two previous Ubuntu partitions - '/' and '/home'. When the installation progress reaches the "Removing Packages" stage Ubiquity crashes and throws up a message asking me to file a bug on Launchpad. The live CD seemingly works flawlessly. I've provided my Launchpad bug link below with the two logs requested but would appreciate any additional advice on resolving this issue. Launchpad bug <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/793766>. Regards. Simon.-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
