[ubuntu-art] inkscape packages available

2008-01-21 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all,

I just found out that the inkscape team has current packages available for 
both Gutsy and Hardy in their personal package archive. Check them out!

https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.testers

Select either Gutsy or Hardy and add the corresponding software sources 
repository. Good fresh stuff!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Mouse Theme

2008-01-21 Thread Corey Woodworth
The rule about more logos is a sound one. I also agree that the cursors
should look the same as the default theme except for the spinning logo. Such
a theme would make a great alternate theme to include but not have as
default.

Corey

On Jan 16, 2008 9:25 PM, Dylan McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the Ubuntu logo idea is kind of neat, but I would prefer it if
 that was following the same style as the other pointers: White with some
 fancy lighting and a border.
 The very colourful logo seems a bit too visible for my tastes, and
 presents a slight usability issue: We have that exact Ubuntu logo at about
 the same size being used beside the main menu applet in the default install.


 Bye,
 -Dylan McCall



 On Jan 16, 2008 1:59 PM, Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Wednesday 16 January 2008 21:30:59 xl cheese wrote:
   yep.  that would be my handy work.  I actually presented this idea to
  the
   group and it was balked at.  :)
  
   Maybe the details of the cursor them could be refined, but I though
  the
   idea of a rotating ubuntu logo was neat.
  
 
  While it does look neat we have a rule about including more ubuntu
  logos.
  Basically we want to keep it as easy as possible for others to take
  ubuntu
  and modify it as well as trying to stay as close to upstream on as many
  pieces as possible.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [memaker] Alrighty: code cleanup, packaging, testing, video, blogging

2008-01-21 Thread Cory K.
Jason Brower wrote:
 Code Cleanup,
 We will start to do the code cleanup.  If you have any experience in the
 matter it would be really great to have your changes sent either here as
 a diff or to your own bzr location.  I will merge it all as it comes.  I
 personally am not that good at it.  But the latest release should be a
 lot more readable than before.

 Packaging,
 We have got to get this.  I don't know how, but it should be done before
 our submission on the first of February to Ubuntu.  With out a package
 almost all chances are lost to get this into Ubuntu, let alone the live
 CD. If you haven't blogged asking for someone to package I would do it.

 Testing,
 As always, we love having testing.  We need to find those little quirks
 that are a little annoying.  One that I don't like is the layers are not
 remembered when you add another object.  It would be nice to have that
 working. I am going to play with getting the layers to move on each
 click, rather than clicking and not seeing any change when really there
 was. :D  Does anyone know how to compare two pixbufs? :)

 Video,
 I will be making a video of memaker tonight.  If you have any requests
 for this video I would be happy to help you out.  I will make more
 formats too.  Flash and Ogg in many details. :D  I hope that it can be
 viewable for anyone.

 Blogging,
 Boy, I think this is where we have our power.  We have got to share this
 with everyone.  I encourage everyone to blog about it and tell what they
 like.  What part they contributed.  What you have learned.  Etc... Let's
 make this release a booming success. :D

 So, What does everyone think?
 Jason Brower
   

Sounds cool. You just have to remember to put Memaker in the subject
when you post to this list. Every post you do I have no clue what its
about 'till damn near the end. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] inkscape packages available

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Jan 21, 2008 3:35 AM, Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just found out that the inkscape team has current packages available for
 both Gutsy and Hardy in their personal package archive. Check them out!

 https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.testershttps://launchpad.net/%7Einkscape.testers


Ooh, it's like Christmas in January! Thanks for pointing this out.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [memaker] Alrighty: code cleanup, packaging, testing, video, blogging

2008-01-21 Thread Jason Brower
Sorry wrong post again... my Evolution defaults to this list when I type
discussion so I make the mistake all the time!
Jason
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 08:02 -0500, Cory K. wrote:
 Jason Brower wrote:
  Code Cleanup,
  We will start to do the code cleanup.  If you have any experience in the
  matter it would be really great to have your changes sent either here as
  a diff or to your own bzr location.  I will merge it all as it comes.  I
  personally am not that good at it.  But the latest release should be a
  lot more readable than before.
 
  Packaging,
  We have got to get this.  I don't know how, but it should be done before
  our submission on the first of February to Ubuntu.  With out a package
  almost all chances are lost to get this into Ubuntu, let alone the live
  CD. If you haven't blogged asking for someone to package I would do it.
 
  Testing,
  As always, we love having testing.  We need to find those little quirks
  that are a little annoying.  One that I don't like is the layers are not
  remembered when you add another object.  It would be nice to have that
  working. I am going to play with getting the layers to move on each
  click, rather than clicking and not seeing any change when really there
  was. :D  Does anyone know how to compare two pixbufs? :)
 
  Video,
  I will be making a video of memaker tonight.  If you have any requests
  for this video I would be happy to help you out.  I will make more
  formats too.  Flash and Ogg in many details. :D  I hope that it can be
  viewable for anyone.
 
  Blogging,
  Boy, I think this is where we have our power.  We have got to share this
  with everyone.  I encourage everyone to blog about it and tell what they
  like.  What part they contributed.  What you have learned.  Etc... Let's
  make this release a booming success. :D
 
  So, What does everyone think?
  Jason Brower

 
 Sounds cool. You just have to remember to put Memaker in the subject
 when you post to this list. Every post you do I have no clue what its
 about 'till damn near the end. :)
 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek
FREE as in FOSS ?? that's not a very bright idea. Other than forced
idealogical conflict, there' no benefit of FOSS. can't imagine using my
system without any multimedia support.

Vivek


On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 11:28 +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 21, 2008 10:56 AM, Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Namaskar to all members,
 
 I've just joined the mailing list in hope of being able to
 offer some
 help in the development of the Indian Edition of Ubuntu.
 However, I've
 been out of luck in finding any useful information about the
 project. 
 There does exist a Ubuntu LoCo page but all it talks about is
 adding
 support for regional languages, translation ? Is that all that
 is there
 on the agenda ? Is there no interest in development of new
 features ?
 new functionality (or more usable/discoverable) not found in
 other
 ubuntu distributions ?
 
 Please enlighten me if the project is more than mere lang
 support.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek


On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 12:05 +0530, Parthan SR wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 Vivek wrote:
  Namaskar to all members,
 
  I've just joined the mailing list in hope of being able to offer some
  help in the development of the Indian Edition of Ubuntu.
 Welcome. But, what do you mean by Indian Edition of Ubuntu?
Indian Edition means ubuntu edition made especially for India. Wasn't
difficult to answer :P.
IMHO, the existing ubuntu distribution isn't a very good option for
people with poor net connection or old PCs. Even without any thing nifty
running, ubuntu takes about 200mb of RAM on my system. At my home, I
still use an old system with 256mb RAM. I believe similar would be the
case with many households. With such mem usage, system would just crawl.
It's just a thought, but I believe that it's very important to make
ubuntu a bit leaner.

   However, I've
  been out of luck in finding any useful information about the project.
  There does exist a Ubuntu LoCo page but all it talks about is adding
  support for regional languages, translation ? Is that all that is there
  on the agenda ?
 Localization and local language support is considered to be important
 and an important venture for Loco Teams.
  Is there no interest in development of new features ?
  new functionality (or more usable/discoverable) not found in other
  ubuntu distributions ?
 Either? A lot of our members are involved in various Ubuntu related
 development and contribution. Can we know what you actually mean by
 that? You mean developing new 

Yes, I was referring to development of new as well as improvement of
existing features. there's still a lot of scope for improvement in
ubuntu.

 
  Please enlighten me if the project is more than mere lang support.
 The project also focuses on increasing contribution to Ubuntu, localized
 support and help, etc.
Hmm..I though, the idea was to make ubuntu specialised for Indians.
Apparently, I'm wrong - the group focuses more on promotion rather than
development.

 
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Cheers,
Vivek

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Parthan SR
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Vivek wrote:

  Indian Edition means ubuntu edition made especially for India. Wasn't
  difficult to answer :P.
Sorry, still I do not get it?
  IMHO, the existing ubuntu distribution isn't a very good option for
  people with poor net connection or old PCs. Even without any thing nifty
  running, ubuntu takes about 200mb of RAM on my system. At my home, I
  still use an old system with 256mb RAM. I believe similar would be the
  case with many households. With such mem usage, system would just crawl.
  It's just a thought, but I believe that it's very important to make
  ubuntu a bit leaner.
Xubuntu? Yes, you can use Ubuntu to create your own custom distros, may
be using WMs like fluxbox which are comparatively lighter to a GNOME or
KDE based Ubuntu. But, at the end of the day the question is who is
going to maintain the packages for them? IMHO, we can try contributing
to existing packages and packaging them for the latest upstream version
than doing something like this.
  Yes, I was referring to development of new as well as improvement of
  existing features. there's still a lot of scope for improvement in
  ubuntu.
Yes sure, If you have any new idea of a cool app propose it, there will
be some one in this list who wants to join and make it. We had some
projects started in our team, but as we have become more and more
occupied with our job we are not able to be active. Would you like to do
something? Please propose, we were here to help you :)
  Apparently, I'm wrong - the group focuses more on promotion rather than
  development.

AFAIK, we have never done any promotion till now. I am eager to know
what made you conclude on that?
Disclaimer: The Ubuntu India Loco team has nothing to do with the Ubunt
India Promoters group in Launch Pad, as of now.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Setting up local apt-get repository ? Error

2008-01-21 Thread Jasbir Khehra
On 1/18/08, Ramnarayan. K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 Ok my sources.list points to
 deb file:media/disk/ubuntu/dvd710_1/ubuntu gutsy main
 multiverse universe

 and the files Packages.gz

 /media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 /media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1/dists/gutsy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 /media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz

 are there :

The location of the mirror and the path given in sources dont match.
Try this line in your sources.list
deb file:/media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1 gusty main multiverse universe

[Snip]
 top:~$ sudo apt-get update
 E: Malformed line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)

  the top 5 -6 lines of my sources.list looks like
 # adding 7.10 material transferred from dvd to usb disk
 # deb file:///media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1/ubuntu/gutsy/
 main multiverse universe

 deb
 file://media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz

 deb
 file:///media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1/dists/gutsy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 deb
 file:///media/disk-1/ubuntu/dvd710_1/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz

 so what now ???

You need to remove these lines pointing to 'Packages.gz'

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek


On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 15:40 +0530, Parthan SR wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Vivek wrote:
 
   Indian Edition means ubuntu edition made especially for India. Wasn't
   difficult to answer :P.
 Sorry, still I do not get it?

different wallpaper, different theme, sounds  possibly diff icon.
Different default services, different default set of installed
packages.Indian calendar + list of holidays.  Claws as default client
rather than hte evolution monster... and many others.

   IMHO, the existing ubuntu distribution isn't a very good option for
   people with poor net connection or old PCs. Even without any thing nifty
   running, ubuntu takes about 200mb of RAM on my system. At my home, I
   still use an old system with 256mb RAM. I believe similar would be the
   case with many households. With such mem usage, system would just crawl.
   It's just a thought, but I believe that it's very important to make
   ubuntu a bit leaner.
 Xubuntu? 

Have u tried XUBUNTU ? It's touted to be lightweight alternative to
ubuntu but my personal experience has been very different. Most of the
time it relies on Gnome packages. Other than a different window
manager , and thunar there's not much different between them. It's based
on GTK2 and relies on many gnome packages. It definitely uses less
resources but isn't that light.

Fluxbox: There's already a fluxubuntu distribution.

I'm not talking just abt different window manager but a better and
friendlier linux distro based on ubuntu.

 Yes, you can use Ubuntu to create your own custom distros, may
 be using WMs like fluxbox which are comparatively lighter to a GNOME or
 KDE based Ubuntu. But, at the end of the day the question is who is
 going to maintain the packages for them? 

 IMHO, we can try contributing
 to existing packages and packaging them for the latest upstream version
 than doing something like this.

   Yes, I was referring to development of new as well as improvement of
   existing features. there's still a lot of scope for improvement in
   ubuntu.
 Yes sure, If you have any new idea of a cool app propose it, there will
 be some one in this list who wants to join and make it. We had some
 projects started in our team, but as we have become more and more
 occupied with our job we are not able to be active. Would you like to do
 something? Please propose, we were here to help you :)
   Apparently, I'm wrong - the group focuses more on promotion rather than
   development.
 
 AFAIK, we have never done any promotion till now. I am eager to know
 what made you conclude on that?
 Disclaimer: The Ubuntu India Loco team has nothing to do with the Ubunt
 India Promoters group in Launch Pad, as of now.

Thanks for that clarification. 

Cheers,
Vivek
 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 21, 2008 4:24 PM, Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 15:40 +0530, Parthan SR wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  Vivek wrote:
 
Indian Edition means ubuntu edition made especially for India.
 Wasn't
difficult to answer :P.
  Sorry, still I do not get it?

 different wallpaper, different theme, sounds  possibly diff icon.
 Different default services, different default set of installed
 packages.Indian calendar + list of holidays.  Claws as default client
 rather than hte evolution monster... and many others.

IMHO, the existing ubuntu distribution isn't a very good option for
people with poor net connection or old PCs. Even without any thing
 nifty
running, ubuntu takes about 200mb of RAM on my system. At my home, I
still use an old system with 256mb RAM. I believe similar would be
 the
case with many households. With such mem usage, system would just
 crawl.
It's just a thought, but I believe that it's very important to make
ubuntu a bit leaner.
  Xubuntu?

 Have u tried XUBUNTU ? It's touted to be lightweight alternative to
 ubuntu but my personal experience has been very different. Most of the
 time it relies on Gnome packages. Other than a different window
 manager , and thunar there's not much different between them. It's based
 on GTK2 and relies on many gnome packages. It definitely uses less
 resources but isn't that light.

 Fluxbox: There's already a fluxubuntu distribution.

 I'm not talking just abt different window manager but a better and
 friendlier linux distro based on ubuntu.

  Yes, you can use Ubuntu to create your own custom distros, may
  be using WMs like fluxbox which are comparatively lighter to a GNOME or
  KDE based Ubuntu. But, at the end of the day the question is who is
  going to maintain the packages for them?

  IMHO, we can try contributing
  to existing packages and packaging them for the latest upstream version
  than doing something like this.

Yes, I was referring to development of new as well as improvement of
existing features. there's still a lot of scope for improvement in
ubuntu.
  Yes sure, If you have any new idea of a cool app propose it, there will
  be some one in this list who wants to join and make it. We had some
  projects started in our team, but as we have become more and more
  occupied with our job we are not able to be active. Would you like to do
  something? Please propose, we were here to help you :)
Apparently, I'm wrong - the group focuses more on promotion rather
 than
development.
  
  AFAIK, we have never done any promotion till now. I am eager to know
  what made you conclude on that?
  Disclaimer: The Ubuntu India Loco team has nothing to do with the Ubunt
  India Promoters group in Launch Pad, as of now.

 Thanks for that clarification.

 Cheers,
 Vivek
 
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Hello
If you are interested in developing an Indian Edition of ubuntu ref:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndubuntuTeam

Looking Forward to your support..


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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Kingsly John
+++ Vivek [2008-01-21 05:54:38]:

 Have u tried XUBUNTU ? It's touted to be lightweight alternative to
 ubuntu but my personal experience has been very different. Most of the
 time it relies on Gnome packages. Other than a different window
 manager , and thunar there's not much different between them. It's based
 on GTK2 and relies on many gnome packages. It definitely uses less
 resources but isn't that light.

XFCE doesn't *depend* on any Gnome Packages, now if you need a particular
gnome package.. obviously those will depend on Gnome packages.

Creating a distro isn't a trivial task.. involves a LOT of overhead in
packaging/testing/QA etc... just look at the different levels of polish in
the various *buntu distributions itself.

 Fluxbox: There's already a fluxubuntu distribution.
 
 I'm not talking just abt different window manager but a better and
 friendlier linux distro based on ubuntu.

Why don't you list what you think is broken with Ubuntu and work with the
official developers to get things fixed? 

Why does it have to be India specific? Why shouldn't the rest of the world
benefit from your ideas? 

Don't let imaginary lines in the sand limit your ideas.

The reason the localisation effort seems to be highlighted is because someone
from China or Brazil isn't qualified to be doing Indian language
translations.

There are Indians contributing to Ubuntu under various roles.. but they
don't need to do it under Ubuntu-IN, because it's more efficient to directly
work with the main developers than to work independently of them.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek


On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 17:39 +0530, Kingsly John wrote:
 +++ Vivek [2008-01-21 05:54:38]:
 
  Have u tried XUBUNTU ? It's touted to be lightweight alternative to
  ubuntu but my personal experience has been very different. Most of the
  time it relies on Gnome packages. Other than a different window
  manager , and thunar there's not much different between them. It's based
  on GTK2 and relies on many gnome packages. It definitely uses less
  resources but isn't that light.
 
 XFCE doesn't *depend* on any Gnome Packages, now if you need a particular
 gnome package.. obviously those will depend on Gnome packages.
xubuntu is more than just XFCE. Ever used xubuntu wihtout gnome-vfs ?
firewall in XFCE (there's firestarter but again it has *gnome* deps)??
 
 Creating a distro isn't a trivial task.. involves a LOT of overhead in
 packaging/testing/QA etc... just look at the different levels of polish in
 the various *buntu distributions itself.

That simply means you're not interested. Linux mint began as an ubuntu
fork.

 
  Fluxbox: There's already a fluxubuntu distribution.
  
  I'm not talking just abt different window manager but a better and
  friendlier linux distro based on ubuntu.
 
 Why don't you list what you think is broken with Ubuntu and work with the
 official developers to get things fixed? 
Did I mention anything broken ? 

 
 Why does it have to be India specific? Why shouldn't the rest of the world
 benefit from your ideas? 

Why can't be India specific ? Even if it is (will be) designed to be
India specific, it's still open source - anyone can have it.


 
 Don't let imaginary lines in the sand limit your ideas.
What was that for ???

 
 The reason the localisation effort seems to be highlighted is because someone
 from China or Brazil isn't qualified to be doing Indian language
 translations.
another reason could be that nobody's doing any development work.
 
 There are Indians contributing to Ubuntu under various roles.. 
I don't doubt that 

 but they
 don't need to do it under Ubuntu-IN, 
why ? are they prevented from doing so ? most likely they share they
vision/ideas and hence want to join the effort.

 because it's more efficient to directly
 work with the main developers than to work independently of them.
That's untrue. A team has to share the goals in order to work
efficiently. If you don't agree with the mainstream developers then it's
better to branch.
 
 
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Are u always so cynical ? :D


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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Jan 21, 2008 1:06 PM, Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why does it have to be India specific? Why shouldn't the rest of the world
  benefit from your ideas?

 Why can't be India specific ? Even if it is (will be) designed to be
 India specific, it's still open source - anyone can have it.

 Dear, this is what we are asking you to do. Jot down what you think
is India specific by creating a wiki page. If you can show us that
there is considerable difference between standard *buntu distros and
your feature request, we can have a discussion on how to implement
your suggestions

 But first tell us what is India specific ?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Jan 21, 2008 2:13 PM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have put up couple of my ideas on the project page:

 http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/Projects#Projects

  Have a look... any comments welcome..

Going by the requirement put up on the wiki, I think you should
contact indlinux team instead.
Also, when all the language packs/translations are available then why
we need a different distro. We can dummy package which will force
installation of required language packs/translations/fonts etc and
setup the user preferred language as default, during post install
config.
 IMHO i do not see any reason to create a new distro.
 Ubuntu packagers can shed more light into this.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 21, 2008 6:56 PM, Vivek Khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 21, 2008 1:06 PM, Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Why does it have to be India specific? Why shouldn't the rest of the
 world
   benefit from your ideas?
 
  Why can't be India specific ? Even if it is (will be) designed to be
  India specific, it's still open source - anyone can have it.

  Dear, this is what we are asking you to do. Jot down what you think
 is India specific by creating a wiki page. If you can show us that
 there is considerable difference between standard *buntu distros and
 your feature request, we can have a discussion on how to implement
 your suggestions

  But first tell us what is India specific ?

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I have put up couple of my ideas on the project page:

http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/Projects#Projects

Have a look... any comments welcome..
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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 21, 2008 7:54 PM, Vivek Khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 21, 2008 2:13 PM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have put up couple of my ideas on the project page:
 
  http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/Projects#Projects
 
   Have a look... any comments welcome..

 Going by the requirement put up on the wiki, I think you should
 contact indlinux team instead.
 Also, when all the language packs/translations are available then why
 we need a different distro. We can dummy package which will force
 installation of required language packs/translations/fonts etc and
 setup the user preferred language as default, during post install
 config.
  IMHO i do not see any reason to create a new distro.
  Ubuntu packagers can shed more light into this.

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OK.. But I m looking for a free variant of ubuntu  like Gobuntu...which
meets FSF's 4 freedoms..

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Lut4rp
 different wallpaper, different theme, sounds  possibly diff icon.
 Different default services, different default set of installed
 packages.Indian calendar + list of holidays.  Claws as default client
 rather than hte evolution monster... and many others.

Have you seen this project page? http://ubuntu-in.org/wiki/UbuntuIndiaSystemLook

 I'm not talking just abt different window manager but a better and
 friendlier linux distro based on ubuntu.

Im sorry, but if this is the case, then its a _totally_ new thing
altogether. As Parthan clarified earlier, maintaining new packages
itself is a mammoth task. Creation of a new distro altogether? Its
re-inventing the wheel. But, then again, if you _do_ have the
manpower, time and will to do so, you might find takers for your idea
:) just my opinion!

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Roshan
On Monday 21 January 2008 10:56, Vivek wrote:

[some-info]
I'm not a active contributor, I express my simple thoughts below. 

 Is there no interest in development of new
 features ? new functionality (or more usable/discoverable) not found
 in other ubuntu distributions ?

I assume, if development has to be considered, and if one is technically 
inclined, one could rather, send patches for existing bugs that have 
remained un-patched. Ofcourse, one would have to submit them directly 
to the developers / people associated with the software. 
They probably believe in Show me the Code :)

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek
Frankly I wasn't expecting so much resistance. Why is everyone so much
opposed to the idea of a new ubuntu flavor ? If Ubuntu muslim edition,
christian edition, satan , ultimate, fluxubuntu can co-exist then what's
the problem in a new Indian edition ? 

Ubuntu is not the only linux distribution. There are other -RedHat,
Mandriva, Debian, Gentoo ...and each has its own user base. If everyone
started to think like this then only 1 distro would be maintained
(*patched*), the rest would should be discarded. Infact if that was the
case then ubuntu itself should not have started (after all debian was
already available and ubuntu is its derivative).

Distrbution is just an assembly of existing software ..so how can u
call this reinvention of wheel ? Moreover, I'm not talking of compiling
everything from scratch but only to use fewer ubuntu packages, and
certain modifications to make it more functional.

In any case these are my views and I'll be going ahead with these.


 



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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Jan 21, 2008 4:51 PM, Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Frankly I wasn't expecting so much resistance. Why is everyone so much
 opposed to the idea of a new ubuntu flavor ? If Ubuntu muslim edition,
 christian edition, satan , ultimate, fluxubuntu can co-exist then what's
 the problem in a new Indian edition ?

Because you guys have failed to provide anything which is unique and
requires a new distro. What you guys are looking for is minor
modification to existing distros and this can be attained by creating
a package (most of the suggestions only require a config change)


 Ubuntu is not the only linux distribution. There are other -RedHat,
 Mandriva, Debian, Gentoo ...and each has its own user base. If everyone
 started to think like this then only 1 distro would be maintained
 (*patched*), the rest would should be discarded. Infact if that was the
 case then ubuntu itself should not have started (after all debian was
 already available and ubuntu is its derivative).

 They all exist because they package things differently. There are
noticeable differences between ubuntu and debian.


 Distrbution is just an assembly of existing software ..so how can u
 call this reinvention of wheel ? Moreover, I'm not talking of compiling
 everything from scratch but only to use fewer ubuntu packages, and
 certain modifications to make it more functional.


 Which modifications ? What you guys are suggesting can be atained by
extending exiting distro, so why spend so much time trying to build a
new distro, port security packages etc.

 In any case these are my views and I'll be going ahead with these.

 Sure, no one is stopping you from creating a new distro. If you have
the time to create distro, maintain packages, troubleshoot problems,
provide support and more importantly port security packages regularly
...
 Are you game for this ?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Parthan SR
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Vivek wrote:
 Frankly I wasn't expecting so much resistance. Why is everyone so much
 opposed to the idea of a new ubuntu flavor ? If Ubuntu muslim edition,
 christian edition, satan , ultimate, fluxubuntu can co-exist then what's
 the problem in a new Indian edition ?
This is not resistance. This is how things work in the FOSS world. If
you want people to participate in something which you call new, prove
us it is new and worth putting our time in that. Else, we know things
which work and we will rather put our time on it to make it work better.
Because we have been contributing to Ubuntu since Warty days, we know
how mammoth a task is to maintain such a project and keep it going. We
do not want to start another Ubuntu fork for just the sake of few and
let it be orphaned in future.

 Ubuntu is not the only linux distribution. There are other -RedHat,
 Mandriva, Debian, Gentoo ...and each has its own user base. If everyone
 started to think like this then only 1 distro would be maintained
 (*patched*), the rest would should be discarded. Infact if that was the
 case then ubuntu itself should not have started (after all debian was
 already available and ubuntu is its derivative).
Ubuntu started because people felt Debian was not good enough for a
not-exposed-to-linux desktop user. They wanted to make a desktop which
still takes the best things of Debian but in rather a simplified
your-grandma-can-use-it form. Mandrivia, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora are
gaints as a project as Ubuntu is. Do you have any clue about how much of
contribution goes into each of that project? How much the contributors
struggle to keep them alive and updated? Do you know the
we-want-more-contributors cry from each of the project? If you have
any clue of that, you will think a dozen times before wishing to start a
new distribution, even if it is a fork of something.

 Distrbution is just an assembly of existing software ..so how can u
 call this reinvention of wheel ? Moreover, I'm not talking of compiling
 everything from scratch but only to use fewer ubuntu packages, and
 certain modifications to make it more functional.
Distributing is not just taking bits and pieces from here and there, put
it together and give it. If that's your idea about distribution, then am
afraid people in this list are not even going to hear more about new
distribution from you. Ubuntu is not formed from debian by just taking
packages from Debian and assembling it together. We have a unique
development process, which is similar yet quire different from that of
Debian.

If you talking about forking certain projects and creating a new Ubuntu
derivative, by adding these packages instead of Ubuntu ones then please
be specific about what are those, what things you do not feel good about
it, can't those be done in the Ubuntu package itself? if not why? Who
are the probable users of your new derivative? who is going to maintain
the packages in future? what is the infrastructure to maintain them? How
are you going to expose and motivate people to use your derivative than
the standard Ubuntu distribution which is much more supported and has a
huge user and developer base? We have been a part of Ubuntu community
for long and we know what's up with such a project.

Every project has shortcoming, we have to rather see how to fill it up
rather than forking until and unless the project is not flexible enough
to do so. IMHO, Ubuntu has always been flexible with its contributors
and users.

 In any case these are my views and I'll be going ahead with these.
You are welcome to and good luck.

@Bhavani Shankar,
I agree with your idea of a completely Free Ubuntu derivative, but
there already exists one. But, there are few questions regarding real
time state of such derivatives, especially for Indian users for whom all
they want is play songs, play movies which are in prop format. How are
you going to satisfy them with your Free distribution? If they aren't
you focus, who is?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?

2008-01-21 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 21, 2008 11:00 PM, Vivek Khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 21, 2008 4:51 PM, Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Frankly I wasn't expecting so much resistance. Why is everyone so much
  opposed to the idea of a new ubuntu flavor ? If Ubuntu muslim edition,
  christian edition, satan , ultimate, fluxubuntu can co-exist then what's
  the problem in a new Indian edition ?

 Because you guys have failed to provide anything which is unique and
 requires a new distro. What you guys are looking for is minor
 modification to existing distros and this can be attained by creating
 a package (most of the suggestions only require a config change)

 
  Ubuntu is not the only linux distribution. There are other -RedHat,
  Mandriva, Debian, Gentoo ...and each has its own user base. If everyone
  started to think like this then only 1 distro would be maintained
  (*patched*), the rest would should be discarded. Infact if that was the
  case then ubuntu itself should not have started (after all debian was
  already available and ubuntu is its derivative).

  They all exist because they package things differently. There are
 noticeable differences between ubuntu and debian.

 
  Distrbution is just an assembly of existing software ..so how can u
  call this reinvention of wheel ? Moreover, I'm not talking of compiling
  everything from scratch but only to use fewer ubuntu packages, and
  certain modifications to make it more functional.
 

  Which modifications ? What you guys are suggesting can be atained by
 extending exiting distro, so why spend so much time trying to build a
 new distro, port security packages etc.

  In any case these are my views and I'll be going ahead with these.

  Sure, no one is stopping you from creating a new distro. If you have
 the time to create distro, maintain packages, troubleshoot problems,
 provide support and more importantly port security packages regularly
 ...
  Are you game for this ?

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Yes.. By the term free I meant to say.. Ref:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobuntu

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

and the whole distro should be based on only free software including the
translations...(which is of course free)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok i tried kino but heres the problem...it dramatically increases the file
size. The original vob file size is 980 mb and once i drag and drop it into
kino...without even touching it the file size becomes 3.2 gb!!!




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  On 20/01/2008, *Javad Ayaz* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob
  file. thats it!
 
 
  May I advise you to look up the term top posting, and why its not
  recommended on lists, before someone, unlikely to be me, but someone
  wearing a slackware shirt kills you slowly with a USB Hacksaw (watch
  Hak.5 if you dont know what that is).
 
  Anyway, the best way to find the best editor is to try them, I would
  give kino a try seen as it is a good replica of Winshite movie maker.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Dianne Reuby
a) In order to ingratiate myself with all parties, I'll do both.

b) Can any of you hardware experts recommend a modem that will download
chocolate oranges?

On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:01 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
 I frickin' love chocolate oranges!
 
 Additionally. OMG FLAME WAR!!! TOP POST WAR!
 
 (Enter: all people that believe in the bottom posting religion)

a) In order to ingratiate myself with all parties, I'll do both.

b) Can any of you hardware experts recommend a modem that will download
chocolate oranges?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 08:17 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok i tried kino but heres the problem...it dramatically increases the
 file size. The original vob file size is 980 mb and once i drag and
 drop it into kino...without even touching it the file size becomes 3.2
 gb!!! 

Javad,

The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format so
you can edit it first.

Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease rapidly.

Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 00:26 +, Mark Burns wrote:
 On a side note, it might just be me, but I dont think Chocolate Oranges
 will mix to well with a Flame War.
 
 So I would like to suggest a brief ceasefire, so that all innocent
 Chocolate Oranges may be moved a safe distance away from the arena.

You're going to fit in well around here, I can tell... :oP

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok well thats a relief!

are there any tutorials on how to use Kino?
all i want to do is take out like 10 secs of footage from two places in a
file?

hope this makes sense!

Regards

Javad


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 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 08:17 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok i tried kino but heres the problem...it dramatically increases the
  file size. The original vob file size is 980 mb and once i drag and
  drop it into kino...without even touching it the file size becomes 3.2
  gb!!!

 Javad,

 The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format so
 you can edit it first.

 Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease rapidly.

 Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:07 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok well thats a relief!
  
 are there any tutorials on how to use Kino? 
 all i want to do is take out like 10 secs of footage from two places
 in a file?
  
 hope this makes sense!

Javad,

It pains me to do this, however:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kino
+tutorialsie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=com.ubuntu:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a

There are a huge number of Kino tutorials out there, and I humbly
suggest that if you search for the Kino internet site, it will probably
have instructions to achieve what you want to do.

Please understand that although I am keen to help where possible, the
dreaded phrase Google is your friend does stem from posts similar to
this one where the information is out there, it just hasn't been
searched for.

Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
indeed you are right. i didnt search and looked for the easy way out!
i hang my head in shame!!!


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wrote:


 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:07 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok well thats a relief!
 
  are there any tutorials on how to use Kino?
  all i want to do is take out like 10 secs of footage from two places
  in a file?
 
  hope this makes sense!

 Javad,

 It pains me to do this, however:

 http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kino
 +tutorialsie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=
 com.ubuntu:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a

 There are a huge number of Kino tutorials out there, and I humbly
 suggest that if you search for the Kino internet site, it will probably
 have instructions to achieve what you want to do.

 Please understand that although I am keen to help where possible, the
 dreaded phrase Google is your friend does stem from posts similar to
 this one where the information is out there, it just hasn't been
 searched for.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:29 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 indeed you are right. i didnt search and looked for the easy way out! 
 i hang my head in shame!!! 

We're all guilty of it, I just thought I'd nudge you in the right direction! :o)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
well thank you ill google it! :)

thank you for your help!


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 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:29 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
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  i hang my head in shame!!!

 We're all guilty of it, I just thought I'd nudge you in the right
 direction! :o)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction

2008-01-21 Thread webbox . uk
On 21/01/2008, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 00:26 +, Mark Burns wrote:
  On a side note, it might just be me, but I dont think Chocolate Oranges
  will mix to well with a Flame War.
 
  So I would like to suggest a brief ceasefire, so that all innocent
  Chocolate Oranges may be moved a safe distance away from the arena.

 You're going to fit in well around here, I can tell... :oP

i agree. :D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
regarding cinelerra, avidemux can anyone tell me if these are in the
reposotories?

Sorry im not at my pc at the mo.!!

Also which is the best program out of kino,cinelerra, avidemux for special
effects?

Regards

Javad


On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well thank you ill google it! :)

 thank you for your help!


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 wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:29 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
   indeed you are right. i didnt search and looked for the easy way out!
   i hang my head in shame!!!
 
  We're all guilty of it, I just thought I'd nudge you in the right
  direction! :o)
 
  M.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 02:18:48PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 regarding cinelerra, avidemux can anyone tell me if these are in the
 reposotories?
 

http://packages.ubuntu.com/ will tell you the answer to that one.

 Also which is the best program out of kino,cinelerra, avidemux for special
 effects?
 

Never done any special effects so I don't know, sorry.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Dan Attwood
If you want quick and easy video editing, with a familar time feel and some
simple effects try kdenlive. it's very simililar in it approach to windows
movie maker/ adobe premier. It's also got some good out put options as well.

and I would stay well away from cinelerra as that way madness lies!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)

I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any way of
doing it.
I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!

Any help please?

Regards

Javad

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 If you want quick and easy video editing, with a familar time feel and
 some simple effects try kdenlive. it's very simililar in it approach to
 windows movie maker/ adobe premier. It's also got some good out put options
 as well.

 and I would stay well away from cinelerra as that way madness lies!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 17:35 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
 I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any
 way of doing it. 
 I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!

mencoder may be your best bet for this - it's in apt, so download it and
check out the man pages (type man mencoder at the command prompt)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
that is so full of text i can barely make sense of it!
:((

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 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 17:35 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
  I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any
  way of doing it.
  I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!

 mencoder may be your best bet for this - it's in apt, so download it and
 check out the man pages (type man mencoder at the command prompt)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Andrew Jenkins
Dianne Reuby wrote:
 a) In order to ingratiate myself with all parties, I'll do both.

 b) Can any of you hardware experts recommend a modem that will download
 chocolate oranges?

 On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:01 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
   
 I frickin' love chocolate oranges!

 Additionally. OMG FLAME WAR!!! TOP POST WAR!

 (Enter: all people that believe in the bottom posting religion)
 

 a) In order to ingratiate myself with all parties, I'll do both.

 b) Can any of you hardware experts recommend a modem that will download
 chocolate oranges?

 Dianne

   
You can't simply download Chocolate Oranges, you need to use something 
like Bit
Torrent.  That way you can obtain individual segments which you can then 
rebuild
into a complete luscious, scrummy whole.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Chris Smith
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
 I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any way of
 doing it.
 I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!
 
 Any help please?

VOB files are just MPEG streams so you *should* be able to just do:

  cat file1.vob file2.vob  joined.vob

Not tried it myself.

Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Gaurav Patel
Sup Mark, welcome to ze list.

Speaking of chocolate orange! Sainsbury's do excellent cookies with them inside!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
This command in terminal i take it?
Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob file2.vob
?

On 21/01/2008, Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
  I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any way
 of
  doing it.
  I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!
 
  Any help please?

 VOB files are just MPEG streams so you *should* be able to just do:

   cat file1.vob file2.vob  joined.vob

 Not tried it myself.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Kirrus

- Andrew Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dianne Reuby wrote:
  a) In order to ingratiate myself with all parties, I'll do both.
 
  b) Can any of you hardware experts recommend a modem that will
 download
  chocolate oranges?
 
  On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:01 +, Kris Douglas wrote:

  I frickin' love chocolate oranges!
 
  Additionally. OMG FLAME WAR!!! TOP POST WAR!
 
  (Enter: all people that believe in the bottom posting religion)
  
 
  a) In order to ingratiate myself with all parties, I'll do both.
 
  b) Can any of you hardware experts recommend a modem that will
 download
  chocolate oranges?
 
  Dianne
 

 You can't simply download Chocolate Oranges, you need to use something
 
 like Bit
 Torrent.  That way you can obtain individual segments which you can
 then 
 rebuild
 into a complete luscious, scrummy whole.
 

Alternatively, you could use something more specialised, like Jigdo, to always 
have the latest (and best) mix of the Chocolate Orange to hand. 

(See [0] to learn what jigdo is)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Chris Smith
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 This command in terminal i take it?
 Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob file2.vob
 ?

Yeah this is a command to be run in the terminal. You need to specify
the paths to the files, I was assuming you were in the directory
containing them. You could however do this:

cat /path/to/file1.vob /path/to/file2.vob  /path/to/output.vob

The output file will be created for you be the shell.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
i tried this

cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob

but it didnt work!!

any ideas?

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 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  This command in terminal i take it?
  Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob
 file2.vob
  ?

 Yeah this is a command to be run in the terminal. You need to specify
 the paths to the files, I was assuming you were in the directory
 containing them. You could however do this:

 cat /path/to/file1.vob /path/to/file2.vob  /path/to/output.vob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Stephen Garton
On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i tried this

 cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
 shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob

 but it didnt work!!

 any ideas?

Javad,

Try cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob
/dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob  /dev/sda5/nuzhet
shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi_all.vob
 or

cd /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/
cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Tom Bamford
Stephen Garton wrote:
 On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i tried this

 cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
 shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob

 but it didnt work!!

 any ideas?

 Javad,
 
 Try cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob
 /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob  /dev/sda5/nuzhet
 shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi_all.vob
  or
 
 cd /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/
 cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob
 
You're specifying the device file rather than the mount point. Rather 
use the directory where the hda5 partition is mounted, eg. /mnt/hda5 or 
/media/hda5

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
tried both even
cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
mehndi_joined.vob

but still no joy!!
The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?

On 21/01/2008, Tom Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stephen Garton wrote:
  On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i tried this
 
  cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
  shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob
 
  but it didnt work!!
 
  any ideas?
 
  Javad,
 
  Try cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob
  /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob  /dev/sda5/nuzhet
  shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi_all.vob
   or
 
  cd /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/
  cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob
 
 You're specifying the device file rather than the mount point. Rather
 use the directory where the hda5 partition is mounted, eg. /mnt/hda5 or
 /media/hda5

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Tom Bamford
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 tried both even
 cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  
 mehndi_joined.vob
 
 but still no joy!!
 The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?
 

Yes, you must specify an uppercase N as Linux filenames are case sensitive.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Kris Douglas
On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well
 cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
 mehndi_joined.vob

 still resulted in nothing! :(

 On 21/01/2008, Tom Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Javad Ayaz wrote:
   tried both even
   cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob
   mehndi_joined.vob
  
   but still no joy!!
   The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?
  
 
  Yes, you must specify an uppercase N as Linux filenames are case
  sensitive.
 
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I am not a video editor myself, but can't you just drag the 2 scenes into a
video editor and export them together as one file? You can in MS Movie
Maker, I don't see what difference it would make in apps such as kino, where
I believe it works the same way.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
to be honest i just had exactly that same idea just now...just dragged it to
kinowill post here how i get on!!!
:)

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 On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  well
  cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
  mehndi_joined.vob
 
  still resulted in nothing! :(
 
  On 21/01/2008, Tom Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Javad Ayaz wrote:
tried both even
cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob
   mehndi2.vob 
mehndi_joined.vob
   
but still no joy!!
The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?
   
  
   Yes, you must specify an uppercase N as Linux filenames are case
   sensitive.
  
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 I am not a video editor myself, but can't you just drag the 2 scenes into
 a video editor and export them together as one file? You can in MS Movie
 Maker, I don't see what difference it would make in apps such as kino, where
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Mark Fraser
On Monday 21 January 2008 20:32:18 Chris Smith wrote:
 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  This command in terminal i take it?
  Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob
  file2.vob ?

 Yeah this is a command to be run in the terminal. You need to specify
 the paths to the files, I was assuming you were in the directory
 containing them. You could however do this:

 cat /path/to/file1.vob /path/to/file2.vob  /path/to/output.vob

 The output file will be created for you be the shell.


Managed to get that working here, merged 4 .vob files into 1. Just need to 
find something that will all me to edit them, have tried avidemux, but that 
needs the file to be put through projectx so that the audio and video are 
synced together.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:46:03PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 well
 cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
 mehndi_joined.vob
 

OK, quick command line primer. Each program you want to run should
either be at the start of the line or be indicated in some other way
that it is a program[1]. After the program name in a command line will
come any arguments that you want to give the program, these should be
separated by spaces. The fact that spaces separate arguments is one of
the problems you've got as there is a space in the path you want to
use as an argument. In this case you have to tell the shell that this
space is part of a single argument not separating two. The easiest way
to do this is to put double quotes round the argument. 

What you have mentioned above is actually two commands, did you run it
as two commands or as one?

1st command (including fix for the space):
cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/

This will change the working directory to the path specified. 

2nd command:
cat mehndil1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob

This calls cat on the first two files, and redirects the output to
mehndi_joined.vob. cat conCATenates multiple files together and
outputs the results to the standard output. The  symbol redirects the
standard output from the preceding command to somewhere else, in this
case the file specified.

 still resulted in nothing! :(

I'm willing to bet money it didn't ;) It probably didn't do what was
desired but telling us what did happen (Were there any error messages?
What were they? Was the computer busy for a while? ...) makes it
easier to figure out where things went wrong. 

All that being said importing the two files to whichever video editor
you were using is probably an easier approach if you're not
comfortable with the command line. 

Robert

[1] e.g. what follows a | symbol is another program, this means that
the output of the command in front of the | is the input for the
command following the | 
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live cd question

2008-01-21 Thread mike coulombe
Hi, is there a way to get the live CD to copy itself in to ram and run from 
there.
I think fedora now has this feature and wondered if ubuntu also does.
I have a laptop with one gb ram, so I would think this could work.
 One other thing, is the live CD installable using orca again yet. Mike.
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re: help restoring orca and at-spi

2008-01-21 Thread aerospace1028

Ok, have you double-checked your /etc/apt/sources.list file? If not, check it, 
and then run sudo apt-get update, and try installing gnome-orca again.- -- 
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Is there anything in particular I should be looking for?  The first line is 
uncommented and points to the installation CD.  The remaining http lines are 
all commented out (the machine isn't connected to the internet, so apt-get 
can't find them anyway).  At one point I had added a line at the very end deb 
file:/home/me /debs when I was trying to create a local repository for the 
orca deb files.  I completely removed the line from the /etc/apt/sources.list 
file and emptied the directory /home/yoda/debs of all its contents.
I did an apt-get update an tried to install orca again, but I still get the 
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Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-21 Thread Stuart Hector
I had a play with an Eee PC at Good guys on the weekend and thought it was
great.

I was however a bit dissapointed to then read this article on slashdot which
explains that the Eee PC seems to be in violation of the GPL. I hope it gets
resolved. It looks like a great bit of gear.
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Re: Can I use Debian DVD's to install on Ubuntu

2008-01-21 Thread Dale
Hi Winton,

This might be some help to you,  iirc there is a net install CD around
somewhere for ubuntu and it works like the Debian net install CD.  The
net install CD does a base install on the machine and the from there
you can select the packages you wish to install.

And if you are installing the same packages on all the systems you may
like to have a look at this how to to save yourself sometime -
http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/webblog/archives/35

Regards
Dale

On Jan 21, 2008 11:05 PM, squareyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chris Debenham wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 14:54 +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 14:12 +1030, squareyes wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  I have a 3 DVD set of Debian 4 Etch, and was wondering if I can use
  them to
  install applications like Scribus, Inkscape etc. on Ubuntu 7.04 ?
 
  No is the short answer.
  Not safely, and without causing major long term issues is the longer
  answer.
 
 
  I have friends who have Ubuntu running on machines with no Internet 
  access,
  and thought if I could add the DVD's to their (mine too, have slow dial 
  up)
  apt.sources list and use them as repositories. Would save them bringing
  their boxes here
  and installing via my slow dialup.
 
  Are there any problems that may rear their ugly heads.
 
  yes. package conflicts of all sorts :/
  kk
 
 
  The best way to do what you are wanting is to download the Ubuntu 7.04
  dvd from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/
  Then you can use that one instead
  Ubuntu 7.10 DVD images are also available from that site.
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 many thanks, saved me from making a mess of 3 machines,
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I'm a Linux UBUNTU newbie and I would like to meet other UBUNTU users!!!

2008-01-21 Thread pew_from_hobart
[ warning: this is a long message ;-))) ]

Hello Fellow Australian UBUNTU Users,

forwarded below is a message which I have sent to Melissa Draper. I
chose Melissa because she is one of the few ppl I could find on the
Australian UBUNTU website e.g.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MelissaDraper

I'm having some problems with UBUNTU ... however I still think that it
is much better that Micro$oft Windows.

You can also find me chatting with MSN Messenger details:

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger name: Peter_from_Hobart

Actually I'm using Pidgin Internet Messenger chat program.

Or you can chat (typing) with me with ICQ.
My ICQ # is: 156413284

I Look forward to meeting fellow UBUNTU users and maybe we can get
together for a coffee or whatever... if you are ever in Hobart.

Yours Sincerely and With Best Wishes,
PEW { Peter Eric Williams aka 'pew' }

from North Hobart, Tasmania, Australia


-- Forwarded message --
From: pew_from_hobart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Jan 2008 03:31
Subject: I'm a Linux UBUNTU newbie and I would like to meet other
UBUNTU users!!!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To Melissa Draper,

Hello Melissa,

I found your email address here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MelissaDraper

Please do not delete this email without replying to me!!! *SMILE*

I live in a rented unit in North Hobart, Tasmania { Australia ! } with my cat!!!

I have a tendency to waffle on in my emails. Basically I'm fairly new
at UBUNTU and I have been using it for several months { not sure
exactly how long ! }

I currently use Linux UBUNTU 7.10 'Gutsy Gibbon' (IIRC). Previously I
was using UBUNTU Christian Edition.

And before that I used Micro$oft Windows XP Home Edition. I have
stopped using Win XP because... to be honest I was feed-up with
constantly needing to check for viruses and spyware and do software
upgrades etc etc ...  even when I was doing everything okay my system
(with Win XP) was not performing very well.

When I installed UBUNTU on my computer I vowed never to install
Windows XP or any version of Mirco$oft Windows Operating System.
Partly this is because (a) my computer only has a 40 GB HDD (which I
know is small by today's standards)  (b) because I have grown to
loath M$ Windows operating systems. I have too many bad
memories/experiences with being a WIndows user and having my system
perform very sluggishly and even needed to re-install Windows.

What I would really like is to have some kind of network of fellow
UBUNTU users so that we could meet for a coffee or whatever and help
each other out.

I have also been a member of the Hobart PC Group Inc (and I intend to
re-join shortly).

I have sent a message to the Tasmanian Linux User Group Inc -- several
days ago... but so far I have not received a reply to that message.

I don't drive so I rely on public transport (buses and taxis) or lifts
with friends.

My address is:

Peter E Williams
Unit 1 / 4 Newdegate st
North Hobart  Tas  7000

phone: 03-6236-9675   mobile 044-99-25-650

Yours Sincerely and With Best Wishes
PEW ;-)))

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ainda sobre o SKYPE no ubuntu 6.10

2008-01-21 Thread Bohrer
Caro Marconi..

Infelizmente não estou mais no 6.10.. estou no 7.10 mas acredito que o
processo abaixo seja válido..

A única coisa que fiz aqui foi ir até o site do skype, baixar o .deb e
salvá-lo em um lugar qualquer..

Depois, pelo terminal, fui até a pasta onde ele estava salvo, e usei o dpkg
para a instalação..

sudo dpkg -i skype.deb

Nesse momento ele informará a existência de dependências.. aí, usei um
'apt-get -f install' e tudo se resolveu ; )

Teste aí a veja como vai.. acredito que funcione..

Em caso de dúvidas, entre em contato..

Um abraço

Bohrer


On Jan 20, 2008 10:45 PM, Marconi Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Meus amigos, boa noite.

 Hoje instalei o ubuntu 6.10

 Volto ao assunto sobre a instalação do skype no ubuntu
 6.10

 Ele informa que há dependencias para poder funcnionar.
 Algunm dos membros do forum havia me dado uma luz no
 ano passado sobre o assunto, mas nã oconsigo encontrar
 o topico.

 Gostaria que me auxiliassem novamente.

 Muito grato

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu necessito de ajuda.

2008-01-21 Thread João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos
Olá Thiago!

Infelizmente eu não posso te ajudar em nenhuma dessas dúvidas, mas posso te
ajudar de outra maneira.

Observe o assunto que vc deu para esse email: Ubuntu necessito de ajuda.
Bom, essa eh uma lista de email do Ubuntu para ajudar as pessoas que têm
dúvidas. Ou seja, não ajudou em nada o assunto que vc deu. Quem trabalha com
CAD ou flash no Ubuntu não poderá imaginar que esse email tem a ver com
esses assuntos.

Escreva um novo email colocando no assunto coisas como AutoCAD no Ubuntu
ou Flash no Ubuntu. Aliás, vc já procurou no google? Se já, informe no
email o que vc já encontrou, qual programas vc já viu, para que assim a
ajuda seja mais pontual.

E como vc está com muitas dúvidas, não tenha receio em enviar um email para
cada dúvida (cada um com um assunto apropriado).

Sinto por não poder ajudar diretamente em suas dúvidas

Falous!!

2008/1/20 thiagofcf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Blz,

 Gostaria de saber que programas tenho alternativos ao AutoCAD ou se ele
 roda no wine, como?
 Alternativa ao Macromedia Flash MX, qual além do ktoon?
 Como configurar teclado de notebook Acer Aspire 5050-3371?
 Como fazer com q o perlbox-voice , execute comandos por voz, já instalei
 o festival, as vozes e tal, so preciso saber como configurar, parece que
 precisa de um dicionário.

 Estou utilizando o ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.

 Agradeço a Atenção desde já


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] mp5

2008-01-21 Thread Andre Almeida
Em 19/01/08, Leonardo Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Ok amigo, mas como saber esses códigos pode ajudar a conectar o mp5
 no
 computador usando o ubuntu? Talvez esses códigos façam referência ao
 chipset
 usado, mas onde vai poder pesquisar isso?
 Eu não tenho certeza, mas acho que o melhor seria tentar montar o mp5
 manualmente, como se fosse um pendrive.



Se fosse um pendrive ou se portasse como tal o Ubuntu teria reconhecido na
hora. O problema é que alguns fabricantes inventam formas de armazenamento
próprias e criam drivers específicos (e não criam para linux).

Por isso não dá pra montar como um pendrive comum.

Abraços
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu necessito de ajuda.

2008-01-21 Thread Maudy Pedrao
Para Windows:
AutoCAD, Microstation, ArchiCAD

Para Linux:
1) Varkon http://www.tech.oru.se/cad/varkon/.
2) Linuxcad http://www.linuxcad.com/. [Prop, ~100$]
3) Varicad. http://www.varicad.com/ [Prop]
4) Cycas http://www.cycas.de/. [Prop]
5) Tomcad http://www.tomcad.org/.
6) Thancad http://thancad.sourceforge.net/.
7) Fandango http://www.soffernet.com/jaime/fandango/ (alpha-version).
8) Lignumcad http://lignumcad.sourceforge.net/doc/en/HTML/index.html.
9) Giram http://www.giram.org/.
10) Jcad http://jcad.gnuchina.org/.
11) QSCad http://qs.co.nz/Tcl/QSCad/.
12) FreeEngineer http://freeengineer.org/.
13) Ocadis http://www.nocrew.org/software/ocadis/.
14) PythonCAD. http://www.pythoncad.org/
15) OpenCascade http://www.opencascade.org/.

Não tenho idéia de qual o mlehor, por isso, vá aos sites, leia os
comentários dos usuários e teste!
Boa sorte.

2008/1/20 thiagofcf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Blz,
 
  Gostaria de saber que programas tenho alternativos ao AutoCAD ou se ele
  roda no wine, como?
  Alternativa ao Macromedia Flash MX, qual além do ktoon?
  Como configurar teclado de notebook Acer Aspire 5050-3371?
  Como fazer com q o perlbox-voice , execute comandos por voz, já instalei
  o festival, as vozes e tal, so preciso saber como configurar, parece que
  precisa de um dicionário.
 
  Estou utilizando o ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
 
  Agradeço a Atenção desde já
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] dhcp no Ubuntu

2008-01-21 Thread Leonardo Dias
Sem resposta de ping entre as máquinas da rede!
Também tenho este problema com alguns modens adsl e roteadores com fio.

Att.

Leonardo

Em 18/01/08, Carlos Eduardo Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Ola,

 voce obtem resposta de alguma maquina na sua rede? isso me parece mais
 gateway ou dns. Qual o tipo de acesso q voce utiliza para a internet?

 On Jan 17, 2008 3:13 PM, Leonardo Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ola pessoal,
 
  Montei um servidor de internet Debian, que distribui a internet para
 rede
  local atraves de dhcp.
  As máquinas windows estão ok! A máquina Linux conecta normalemente é
  atribuido o numeros de ip mascara dns e tal.
  Não consigo pingar e nem navegar. Rodo dhclient, dhclient3 e diz que ira
  renovar em alguns minutos e continua na mesma.
  Ideias?
 
  Obrigado.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] dhcp no Ubuntu

2008-01-21 Thread Leonardo Dias
Sem sucesso.
A placa de rede no caso é a  Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation
BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
Tenho um Dell vostro 1000.
Vou tentar fazer alguns testes em outro micro que tenha linux com outro
modelo de placa rede.
Posteriomente eu digo  você!
Obrigado!

Att. Leonardo

Em 19/01/08, Julio Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Verifica se você levantou a interface antes.
 sudo eth0 up
 sudo dhclient eth0
 mude de acordo com a interface
 caso nao consiga
 Tenta colocar ip statico
 abre o arquivo de configuração da rede e coloca um ip alias
 /etc/network/interfaces
 auto eth0:2
 iface eth0:2 inet static
 address 192.168.254.200
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 gateway 192.168.254.254
 depois  da um restart nas interfaces
 sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
 E verifique tambem se sua placa de rede foi reconhecida direito, tenta
 colocar uma placa de rede com chip realtek
 aqui no meu laboratorio eu coloquei 2 em um server que ja tem uma sis
 que acontecia o mesmo não tinha conectividade.
 Julio
 Leonardo Dias escreveu:
  Sem regras!
 
  Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
  target prot opt source   destination
 
  Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
  target prot opt source   destination
 
  Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
  target prot opt source   destination
 
  Tem alguma ideia de como resolver?
  Obrigado!
 
  Att. Leo
 
  2008/1/18, Julio Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Vai no iptables e ve se tem alguma regra , talvez tenha algum firewall
  sudo iptables -L -n
  pra zerar sudo iptables -F
  Leonardo Dias escreveu:
 
  Ola pessoal,
 
  Montei um servidor de internet Debian, que distribui a internet para
 
  rede
 
  local atraves de dhcp.
  As máquinas windows estão ok! A máquina Linux conecta normalemente é
  atribuido o numeros de ip mascara dns e tal.
  Não consigo pingar e nem navegar. Rodo dhclient, dhclient3 e diz que
 ira
  renovar em alguns minutos e continua na mesma.
  Ideias?
 
  Obrigado.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy + GeForce 8600 GT + 2 monitores

2008-01-21 Thread Magno Kretzschmar Nardin
Em Sunday 20 January 2008 22:46:25 hamacker escreveu:
 Voce poderia experimentar o nvidia-settings, mas antes faça
 um backup do seu xorg.conf.

**Essa** opção ainda não testei:-) Obrigado! Vou tentar à noite 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Não querendo ser chato mas preciso d e uma sugestão e sanar algumas dúvidas

2008-01-21 Thread Joao Paulo
Para distro, sem ser ubuntu eu indico o Fedora, que depois do Ubuntu, eu 
considero a mais robusta para desktop..

e para editor web, tente o Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html)

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thiagofcf escreveu:
 Não querendo ser chato mas preciso de uma sugestão e sanar algumas
 dúvidas

 Tenho um notebook Acer Aspire 5050-3371, tenho o ubuntu gutsy gibbon
 instalado, ele demora cerca de 4 minutos para bootar, tem meio de
 reduzir este tempo?
 Tbm tenho mais uma, dividi o hd em 2 partições gostaria que sugerisem
 outra distribuição, pq minhas tentativas forão em vão (BigLinux, mandei
 atualizar com o comando dist-upgrade, e deu erro, OpenSuse - ele não faz
 upgrade da distribuição, somente com reza braba, Debian - dizem q os
 programas são meio desatualizados), alguém tem uma sugestão?
 Preciso de algo que:
 -possa efetuar upgrade da distribuição sem problemas
 -suporte ao compiz-fusion
 -possua o instalador apt-get ou uma interface prática
 -possua um forum para suporte
 -utilizarei para lazer, trabalhos, entretenimento

 A última pergunta:
 Algum editor web estilo frontpage, contanto que não seja NVU, Quanta?
 Tentei utilizar o openoffice, fiz td bonitinho, abri com o browser saiu
 td desconfigurado, as tabelas e tals.

 Desde já, agradeço a atenção!


   

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] tim web no ubuntu

2008-01-21 Thread João Carlos
Um primo meu fez funfar, aqui tem descrito como ele fez

http://www.jcsuporte.com/?p=31



2008/1/20, carlos siebeneichler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 já tentei de tudo pra fazer o ubuntu 7.10 se conectar com o tim web será q
 vces poderiam me ajudar
 ??
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[Ubuntu-BR] Monitor widescreen + placa onboard Int el 925G - não configura 1440x900

2008-01-21 Thread João Carlos
Senhores,

Tenho um monitor Sansung SyncMaster 732NW (wide). Tinha uma máquina na qual
usava uma geforce(zinha) de 64mb e o nosso querido ubuntu me dava
tranquilamente a resolução 1440 x 900 (com 60mhz) que é o padrão do monitor
(segundo ele mesmo).  Agora troquei de máquina e não existe nessa nova o
slot AGP, resultado não tenho mais a placa de video.

e agora o Ubuntu quando configura 1440 x 900 x 60mhz, fica com a tela
distorcida (horizontalmente, como se não fosse wide), e quando uso 1440 x
900 x 75mhz fica muito grande.

Olhei o google e só achei informação para habilitar a resolução e habilitada
ela já está, só fica distorcida.

alguém tem alguma dica?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] recuperar particao

2008-01-21 Thread João Carlos
talvez isso resolva pra você!

http://www.jcsuporte.com/?p=17


Em 20/01/08, Humberto Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Cara, pra usar um monte de sistemas no mesmo pc, vc precisa primeiro
 estudar
 os gerenciadores de boot e desenhar num papel o que vc pretende. Já ouvi
 falar de ferramentas do Debian que identificam outros SOs e colocam no
 Grub,
 infelizmente não lembro o nome nem sei se existem no Ubuntu.

 Mas não custa muito estudar as opções do Grub ou do Lilo e aprender a
 colocar os outros sistemas lá na mão.

 On Jan 20, 2008 6:50 AM, jusé soares sobrinho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  ola pessoal,
  fiz uma grande besteira
  intalei o slack por ultimo e, em vez de gravar o lilo na particao gravei
  na
  mbr e sobrepos o grub do ubuntu que ja estava em dual boot. com o
  mandrake.
  como faco para escrever recuperar a particao do ubuntu (6.06) que ainda
  esta
  no (hda1) sem ter que reinstalar.
  valew mesmo,
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Apt-get x Aptitude

2008-01-21 Thread Jose Vitor Lopes e Silva
Na minha opinião pra quem tá com pressa o apt-get é melhor.

Também já enfrentei os mesmos problemas que o hamacker.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] tim web no ubuntu

2008-01-21 Thread Jose Vitor Lopes e Silva
Já tentou este http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/TimWeb ?
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ainda sobre o SKYPE no ubuntu 6.10

2008-01-21 Thread Jose Vitor Lopes e Silva
Vamos já providenciar um CD do 7.10 pra você.

Dá uma olhada em http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/CDsNoBrasil/Gutsy

Se não houver niguém disponível nas proximidaes me dah um toque em pvt.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Não querendo ser chato mas preciso d e uma sugestão e sanar algumas dúvidas

2008-01-21 Thread Jyulliano Rocha
Eu concordo com o João, o Fedora é muito estável e fácil de trabalhar. Ele
possui uma ferramenta muito parecida com o APT, o YUM,  ele faz tudo que o
APT faz, e as vezes melhor. Tem uma segurança muito boa, já que ele utiliza
o SELinux como uma das suas ferramentas de segurança.
Ele também tem alguns pontos negativos como: ele só baixa codecs
automaticamente se vc pagar pelos codecs, e outros.


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 Para distro, sem ser ubuntu eu indico o Fedora, que depois do Ubuntu, eu
 considero a mais robusta para desktop..

 e para editor web, tente o Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html)

 Boa sorte,

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 thiagofcf escreveu:
  Não querendo ser chato mas preciso de uma sugestão e sanar algumas
  dúvidas
 
  Tenho um notebook Acer Aspire 5050-3371, tenho o ubuntu gutsy gibbon
  instalado, ele demora cerca de 4 minutos para bootar, tem meio de
  reduzir este tempo?
  Tbm tenho mais uma, dividi o hd em 2 partições gostaria que sugerisem
  outra distribuição, pq minhas tentativas forão em vão (BigLinux, mandei
  atualizar com o comando dist-upgrade, e deu erro, OpenSuse - ele não faz
  upgrade da distribuição, somente com reza braba, Debian - dizem q os
  programas são meio desatualizados), alguém tem uma sugestão?
  Preciso de algo que:
  -possa efetuar upgrade da distribuição sem problemas
  -suporte ao compiz-fusion
  -possua o instalador apt-get ou uma interface prática
  -possua um forum para suporte
  -utilizarei para lazer, trabalhos, entretenimento
 
  A última pergunta:
  Algum editor web estilo frontpage, contanto que não seja NVU, Quanta?
  Tentei utilizar o openoffice, fiz td bonitinho, abri com o browser saiu
  td desconfigurado, as tabelas e tals.
 
  Desde já, agradeço a atenção!
 
 
 

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[Ubuntu-BR] Ainda sobre o SKYPE no ubuntu 6.10

2008-01-21 Thread Marconi Mello
Já havia feito uma atualização do 6.10 para o 7.04. Acho que vou fazer 
novamente.
O skype tinha dependencias no 6.10 e não funcnionava

Quando instalo o 7.10, o mouse não funciona, mas quando atualizo do 6.10 para o 
7.04, ele funciona perfeitamente.

Tentei instalar o 7.10 e a máquia trava, fica com uma tela preta.

E agora?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Monitor widescreen + placa onboard Intel 92 5G - não configura 1440x900

2008-01-21 Thread Jose Lera
Caro João,
se a imagem fica distorcida é um problema de frequência.
Você tem as informações sobre as frequências do seu monitor ?
Tente encontra-las e coloca-las no arquivo de configuração, o que eu faço
é ir diminuindo a frequência no arquivo até conseguir a imagem.

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor Genérico
HorizSync   31.5 - 48.5
VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0
Option DPMS
EndSection

Lembre que isso pode acontecer nos dois estremos, por exemplo,
valores abaixo de 31,5 ou acima de 48,5. ( os valores se referem
a um monitor padrão 15).
Normalmente valores muito baixos afetam as resoluções menores
e valores altos as resoluções maiores.

Quanto ao tamanho da imagem, você deve estar entrando em modo
virtual, resolução virtual é quando só vemos parte da imagem, quando
chegamos com o mouse na borda da imagem ela de desloca para
mostrar o resto da tela. Isso ocorre quando a resolução padrão for menor
que a imagem mostrada.
Exemplo resolução padrão 800x600, comutando para 1024x768
teremos resolução virtual.
Para alternar entre elas utilizamos as teclas [alt]+[ctrl]+[+]

Também é possível alterar o tamanho da imagem através do arquivo de
configuração, porém já não me lembro mais como se faz :(
Assim que me lembrar mando outro email. :)

[]'s Lera
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 Senhores,

 Tenho um monitor Sansung SyncMaster 732NW (wide). Tinha uma máquina na
 qual
 usava uma geforce(zinha) de 64mb e o nosso querido ubuntu me dava
 tranquilamente a resolução 1440 x 900 (com 60mhz) que é o padrão do
 monitor
 (segundo ele mesmo).  Agora troquei de máquina e não existe nessa nova o
 slot AGP, resultado não tenho mais a placa de video.

 e agora o Ubuntu quando configura 1440 x 900 x 60mhz, fica com a tela
 distorcida (horizontalmente, como se não fosse wide), e quando uso 1440 x
 900 x 75mhz fica muito grande.

 Olhei o google e só achei informação para habilitar a resolução e
 habilitada
 ela já está, só fica distorcida.

 alguém tem alguma dica?

 Obrigado desde já



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Monitor widescreen + placa onboard Int el 925G - não configura 1440x900

2008-01-21 Thread Adilson Oliveira
João Carlos escreveu:
 Senhores,
 
 Tenho um monitor Sansung SyncMaster 732NW (wide). Tinha uma máquina na qual
 usava uma geforce(zinha) de 64mb e o nosso querido ubuntu me dava
 tranquilamente a resolução 1440 x 900 (com 60mhz) que é o padrão do monitor
 (segundo ele mesmo).  Agora troquei de máquina e não existe nessa nova o
 slot AGP, resultado não tenho mais a placa de video.
 
 e agora o Ubuntu quando configura 1440 x 900 x 60mhz, fica com a tela
 distorcida (horizontalmente, como se não fosse wide), e quando uso 1440 x
 900 x 75mhz fica muito grande.
 
 Olhei o google e só achei informação para habilitar a resolução e habilitada
 ela já está, só fica distorcida.
 
 alguém tem alguma dica?

Olá.

Eu tive alguns problemas parecidos com meu LG L203WT. Dê uma olhada aqui
e veja se te ajuda: http://www.blog.adilson.net/?p=12

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Wireless no UBUNTU 7.10.

2008-01-21 Thread Andson Bruno Nabo Santos
caro colega,
   Eu passei um bom tempo pra configurar a minha placa de rede wireless
ar5006eg, mas no final consegui. ja tentaste instalar o ndiswrapper
(programinha bão)?? ele usa o driver que o windows usa pra fazer sua placa
funcionar...

Em 09/01/08, Duda Nogueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Ae!

 Primeiro, precisamos saber qual a sua placa de wireless.

 Digite no terminal:

 lspci e cole o resultado aqui.

 Quanto ao flash, digite no terminal:

 sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

 e cole o resultado aqui :)

 Abraços!!

 On Jan 9, 2008 5:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Pessoal,
 
  tô quebrando a cabeça e ainda não consegui configurar wifi em meu Laptop
  Acer Aspire 5610... com o UBUNTU 7.04 tudo 100%... esperei um tempo de
  decidi fazer nova instalação rumando para o UBUNTU 7.10... Só está
  faltando configurar wireless e o tal flash 9 que não tem jeito de ficar
  bom. Já segui vários tutoriais, wiki's e conselhos de listas, e etc...
 até
  optimizei o kernel, mas nada de wifi funcionando e flash deixa à
 desejar!
 
  (antes de opstimizar o kernel)
 
  modprobe ipw3945
  FATAL: Error inserting ipw3945
  (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko): Unknown
  symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  2008-01-09 12:33:42: ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
  Network Connection
 
 
  (e depois)
 
  modprobe ipw3945
  FATAL: Module ipw3945 not found.
  sh: /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.23.12-gutera: not found
  FATAL: Error running install command for ipw3945
 
 
  Adorei a idéia do Laptop Livre e do gnash... mas isto
 lamentavelmente
  é para o futuro... e não quero voltar atrás, ao UBUNTU 7.04 somente pelo
  flash e wifi... se alguém puder me dar uma luz!!! Agradeço...
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] recuperar particao

2008-01-21 Thread jusé soares sobrinho
Na verdade quero só um real e os demais rodando maquinas virtuais .estava
tentando descobrir qual o melhor (velocidade/segurança) para entaum rodar os
demais em VMs.
Mas como vc falou (e acertou) nao planejei corretamente a ação.

valew


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 Cara, pra usar um monte de sistemas no mesmo pc, vc precisa primeiro
 estudar
 os gerenciadores de boot e desenhar num papel o que vc pretende. Já ouvi
 falar de ferramentas do Debian que identificam outros SOs e colocam no
 Grub,
 infelizmente não lembro o nome nem sei se existem no Ubuntu.

 Mas não custa muito estudar as opções do Grub ou do Lilo e aprender a
 colocar os outros sistemas lá na mão.

 On Jan 20, 2008 6:50 AM, jusé soares sobrinho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  ola pessoal,
  fiz uma grande besteira
  intalei o slack por ultimo e, em vez de gravar o lilo na particao gravei
  na
  mbr e sobrepos o grub do ubuntu que ja estava em dual boot. com o
  mandrake.
  como faco para escrever recuperar a particao do ubuntu (6.06) que ainda
  esta
  no (hda1) sem ter que reinstalar.
  valew mesmo,
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] recuperar particao

2008-01-21 Thread jusé soares sobrinho
hehe,
ja tenho um canivete suiço. td bem que por enquanto só tem um recurso. mas
ja é um bom começo rs

valew

Em 21/01/08, João Carlos [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 talvez isso resolva pra você!

 http://www.jcsuporte.com/?p=17


 Em 20/01/08, Humberto Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Cara, pra usar um monte de sistemas no mesmo pc, vc precisa primeiro
  estudar
  os gerenciadores de boot e desenhar num papel o que vc pretende. Já ouvi
  falar de ferramentas do Debian que identificam outros SOs e colocam no
  Grub,
  infelizmente não lembro o nome nem sei se existem no Ubuntu.
 
  Mas não custa muito estudar as opções do Grub ou do Lilo e aprender a
  colocar os outros sistemas lá na mão.
 
  On Jan 20, 2008 6:50 AM, jusé soares sobrinho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   ola pessoal,
   fiz uma grande besteira
   intalei o slack por ultimo e, em vez de gravar o lilo na particao
 gravei
   na
   mbr e sobrepos o grub do ubuntu que ja estava em dual boot. com o
   mandrake.
   como faco para escrever recuperar a particao do ubuntu (6.06) que
 ainda
   esta
   no (hda1) sem ter que reinstalar.
   valew mesmo,
  
   sobrinho
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[Ubuntu-BR] Aproveitamento de partição Windows para virtualização

2008-01-21 Thread Alexandre Henrique Vieira Soares
Pessoal, vocês sabem se tem como eu aproveitar uma partição Windows
existente para virtualização, em vez de ter que instalar um novo Windows?

Valeu.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Controle de brilho na teclas de funç ões para Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP

2008-01-21 Thread Vinícius Batistela
Também tenho este problema no meu DELL Vostro 1000



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 2008/1/19 Humberto Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Zandre, esse mal funcionamento é só com o driver proprietário? O meu
 note
  tem esses controles via hardware, o SO não tem influência sobre eles.

 Não sei lhe dizer, pois é o lap do meu irmão, um Dell Vostro 1000
 que coloquei o GNU nele hoje e o churrasco já acabou. Mas devo
 encontra-lo está semana. Porém acredito que não seja pelo dirver e sim
 tecla de função mesmo que não está funcionando. O engraçado é que
 todas as outras funcionam, até o ejetar' dvd.

 Obrigado Humberto,
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Aproveitamento de partição Windows para virtualização

2008-01-21 Thread Humberto Júnior
Se não me engano, no procedimento de criação de uma nova Máquina Virtual
pode-se escolher isso, bastando escolher usar um disco físico em vez de
criar um disco virtual.

2008/1/21 Alexandre Henrique Vieira Soares [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Aproveitamento de partição Windows para virtualização

2008-01-21 Thread Allison Almeida
Sim.

Pelo menos no VMware.

O detalhe é que como o ubuntu(não sei se outras distros também) a partir de
7.04 enxerga os HDs IDE como scsi. Quando o windows inicializa pelo VMware,
ele não encontra os IDEs como esperado pela instalação inicial e TELA
AZUL.

Existe, em tese, a possibilidade de instalar um driver SCSI no windows e
alterar os parâmetros de inicialização para procurar os discos SCSI para
bootar, mas não consegui fazer funcionar. (SE ALGUÉM TIVER UM MODO DE
FUNCIONAR, POR FAVOR, ENVIE PARA A LISTA)

No 6.06, sem problema. Instalei o vmware 5.5 e usei o windows na partição
física sem problemas. Realmente um bom ganho de velocidade em relação a
disco virtual.

Com o VMware 6 ainda não testei no 6.06.

Obs.: Existe uma espécie de receita de bolo para configurar o windows para
funcionar no vmware e no modo normal também.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ano novo, vida novo e duvida antiga... (placa de rede wireless)

2008-01-21 Thread Rodrigo Abdalah Freitas
Maurício, veja na http://www.atheros.cz/. Neste site tem muitos drivers das
placas Atheros, tanto para Linux, quanto para Windows (XP e Vista). Falou.

2008/1/20 Mauricio Salles [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 É essa mesma!

 Na real, não é pra mim, estou ajudando mais um novo integrante a entrar
 pra
 comunidade Ubuntu e estamos naquela saga da placa wireless.

 Usei o lspci e ele listou esta placa:
 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11b/g Wireless PCI Express
 Adapter
 (rev 01)

 Usei o madwifi e deu erro.  Usei o ndiswrapper, mas desconfio que o driver
 que consegui (5211) não funcionou.  Usei o ifconfig e não aparece wlan,
 então não sei mais onde procurar.  Espero encontrar o driver correto e
 fazer
 com que o ndiswrapper configure adequadamente.


 Abraço,

 Maurício



 2008/1/19, Elliott Chaves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Err.. sua placa wireless eh qual marca? Eu sei que esse eh nome do
 chipset
  mas gostaria de saber qual eh a marca dela!
 
  2008/1/19, Mauricio Salles [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   Andson e pessoal,
  
   Onde eu baixo o driver correto pra esta placa (Atheros Communications,
   Inc.
   AR5006EG 802.11b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01))?
  
  
   Valeu !
  
  
   Mauricio
  
  
  
   2008/1/18, alex okajima watanabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
   Queimou?? Q jeito??
   Tem certeza que vc instalou a placa corretamente??
   
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu necessito de ajuda.

2008-01-21 Thread João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos
2008/1/21 Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 15) OpenCascade http://www.opencascade.org/.

 Não tenho idéia de qual o mlehor


OpenCascade eh o melhor!!! ;)
Pelo menos foi o que eu ouvi de quem trabalha com isso. Eh usado por várias
montadoras de automóveis e outras empresas grandes.
Trabalha mt com comandos...

Mas foi soh o que eu ouvi.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] não consigo entrar em rede com chave de segurança

2008-01-21 Thread alex okajima watanabe
   Olá Anderson,

   Como você está tentando conectar? E como você conecta sem a chave?
   Já tentou pelo modo texto?

   Abraço .

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] HD nao reconhecido.

2008-01-21 Thread Salles
Prezados Artur Gomes e Julio Cardoso,

Agradeço a ajuda.
Realizei o sudo fdisk -l e o resultado foi o seguinte:

Disco /dev/sda: 20.4 GB, 20416757760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xb21bb21b

Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
/dev/sda1   *   1239219213708+  83  Linux
/dev/sda223932482  7229255  Estendida
/dev/sda523932482  722893+  82  Linux swap /
Solaris

Disco /dev/sdb: 1282 MB, 1282498560 bytes
64 heads, 63 sectors/track, 621 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x1b972b51

Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
/dev/sdb1   *   1 621 1251904+   b  W95 FAT32

Disco /dev/sdc: 20.4 GB, 20416757760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x484574ae

Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
/dev/sdc1   *   1248219936633+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

Disco /dev/sdd: 2068 MB, 2068578304 bytes
3 heads, 2 sectors/track, 673365 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 6 * 512 = 3072 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x04030201

Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
/dev/sdd1  41  673366 20199766  FAT16
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

** Pelo que entendi, o HD que desejo montar é o sdc (não entendi
a que se refere o sdd.
No aguardo, desde já agradeço.

Abraços a todos,

Salles (Nethell) 


Em Dom, 2008-01-20 às 20:00 -0300, Artur Oliveira Gomes escreveu:
 Salles,
 
 Teoricamente, quando você tenta montar alguma unidade de disco, deve
 aparecer, como no seu caso, sda, sdb, sdc, seguidos de um numero, que é o
 numero da ordem das partições no hd. Por exemplo, um disco com duas
 partições, teria: sda1 sda2.. só o item sda é um identificador daquele
 disco.
 Agora se não aparece o id do disco, a coisa fica mais complicada.
 
 Siga o conselho de Julio,
 sudo fdisk -l
 
 Cole aqui o resultado e nos envie.
 
 Artur Gomes
 
 Em 20/01/08, Salles [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Prezados amigos,
 
  Retorno com o problema da versão 7.10 não montar outro HD.
  Vou explicar com detalhes:
  Utilizando o 7.04 meu Master secundário (XP Pro em 20Gb formatado FAT32)
  era reconhecido e realizava a troca constante de arquivos.
  Há um slave primário com W98 de apenas 1Gb que não era visto no 7.04
  acredito que pelo pequeno tamanho dele.
  Quando atualizei o Ubuntu para 7.10, simplesmente este HD sumiu e não
  consigo monta-lo.
  NO gerenciador de unidades de armazenamento, aparecem estes HDs como sdb
  e sdc mas não consigo acesso aos dados ou permissões, ou seja, não sei
  qual deles é qual.
  Para contornar o problema, uso um pendrive para trocar os arquivos,
  mudando de sistema para tal - Na verdade, preferiria ficar direto no
  Ubuntu, pois só utilizo o XP para acesso a alguns sites ou programas que
  não tem suporte para linux.
  Meu sistema é simples, utilizo esta máquina com poucos recursos para meu
  trabalho básico:
  PIII 1600 com 256 RAM (tá otimo para o que faço), primeiro master com
  Ubuntu 7.10 (sistema principal), primeiro slave W98 apenas 1Gb e segundo
  master com XP Pro 20Gb, segundo slave gravador CD/DVD, utilizado
  raramente para backups.
  Até então, este é o único problema que verifiquei no 7.10 (ainda não
  parti para a configuração de impressoras... creio que também levarei uma
  surra.
 
  Aguardo um help e, desde já, agradeço.
 
  Abraços a todos,
 
  Salles (Nethell).
 
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] HD nao reconhecido.

2008-01-21 Thread Artur Oliveira Gomes
Salles,

Vamos lá. Você falou que o hd que você quer montar e que não estava sendo
reconhecido era esta criatura comentada aqui abaixo, correto?

Disco /dev/sdc: 20.4 GB, 20416757760 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders
 Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x484574ae

 Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
 /dev/sdc1   *   1248219936633+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)


Só para testes, execute o seguinte comando

sudo mkdir /media/disco  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/disco

Este comando cria uma pasta disco, só para teste, e monta em seguida o
conteúdo da partição neste ponto. Veja se ele monta mesmo e responda aqui.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu necessito de ajuda.

2008-01-21 Thread Adilson Oliveira
João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos escreveu:
 2008/1/21 Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 15) OpenCascade http://www.opencascade.org/.

 Não tenho idéia de qual o mlehor
 
 
 OpenCascade eh o melhor!!! ;)
 Pelo menos foi o que eu ouvi de quem trabalha com isso. Eh usado por várias
 montadoras de automóveis e outras empresas grandes.
 Trabalha mt com comandos...
 

A bastante tempo um ex-cliente meu teve o mesmo problema e eles optaram
pelo VariCAD. Tem representante no Brasil (ao menos tinha), é barato e
muito leve. Para desenho mecânico (que era o caso deles) caiu como uma luva.

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[Ubuntu-BR] [OFF] % do HD utilizado totalmente errado

2008-01-21 Thread Joao Paulo
Senhores,

preciso de uma ajuda urgente..

primeiro que o servidor esta em Fedora e não ubuntu, mas eu estou tão 
confuso que resolvi tentar aqui tbm pra ver se alguém ja passou por isso.
segundo que ele esta mostrando o espaço ocupado no HD totalmente 
errado.. alias.. mostrando não, hoje ele mostrou 100% de lotação e 
realmente parou um monte de serviço, mas eu nao consigo achar nada 
ocupando espaço, ja removi log, ja dei du -hs em todas as pastas e 
nada.. alguem ja passou por isso

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h
Sist. Arq.Tam   Usad Disp  Uso% Montado em
/dev/hda3 9,5G  8,5G  568M  94% /
/dev/hda1 130M  8,9M  114M   8% /boot
tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda2 135G  125G  3,2G  98% /home

O problema esta no /dev/hda3, onde eu tenho no máximo 4GB ocupado e esta 
dando 8,5G.. outra coisa esquisita, que pode ser percebido ai em cima é 
que se tenho 9,5G de tamanho e 8,5G usado, porque só tenho 568M 
disponivel???

Mais o problema principal é que tenho certeza que não tenho nem 5G 
ocupados nesta partição..

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[Ubuntu-BR] :: Placa Wireless Broadcom não a parece no lspci

2008-01-21 Thread Rogerio R. Alcantara
Boa tarde galera,

Meu nome é Rogério sou totalmente inciante no linux, e esse é o meu primeiro
Post na lista.

Instalei o Kubuntu 7.10 no meu note HP DV6258se da série DV6000.

Este note possui a placa mini-PCI Wireless Network Connection 2 - Broadcom
802.11b/g WLAN. E é acionado por uma chave na sua parte frontal.

Na minha primeira instalação do Ubuntu 7.10, depois de fazer os
procedimentos do ndiswrapper, o wireless funcionou perfeitamente.

Por um problema de particionamento, tive que formatar todo o HD e instalar
novamente o Kubuntu. Mas depois da nova instalação, nem os procedimentos do
ndiswrapper, nem o do bcm43xx tb surtiram efeito. O Led permanece vermelho
(quando ativo, o led fica azul).

Depois de pesquisar em alguns tutoriais, tomei conhecimento e testei o
comando lspci.. infelizmente a placa não é listada na lista de dispositívos.

Instalei novamente o Windows Vista, apenas para verificar se este reconhecia
o dispositivo, mas tb não reconheceu.

Acredito que a minha placa (ou o slot miniPCI) tenha queimado. É possivel
fazer outros testes para diagnosticar isso?

Segue a saída do lspci:

00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce 6150 Go]
(rev
 a2)
00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
00:0a.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PMU (rev a3)
00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev f1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev
f1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev
a2)
00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
HyperTra  nsport Technology
Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Address   Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM
Con  troller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Miscella  neous Control
07:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
07:05.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822
SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSP  ro Host
Adapter (rev 19)
07:05.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)
07:05.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter
(re  v 0a)
07:05.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF] % do HD utilizado totalmente errado

2008-01-21 Thread Jose Lera
Oi João , qual a formatação das unidades?
ext3, reiser, xfs ?

[]'s Lera

Em 21/01/08, Joao Paulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Senhores,

 preciso de uma ajuda urgente..

 primeiro que o servidor esta em Fedora e não ubuntu, mas eu estou tão
 confuso que resolvi tentar aqui tbm pra ver se alguém ja passou por isso.
 segundo que ele esta mostrando o espaço ocupado no HD totalmente
 errado.. alias.. mostrando não, hoje ele mostrou 100% de lotação e
 realmente parou um monte de serviço, mas eu nao consigo achar nada
 ocupando espaço, ja removi log, ja dei du -hs em todas as pastas e
 nada.. alguem ja passou por isso

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h
 Sist. Arq.Tam   Usad Disp  Uso% Montado em
 /dev/hda3 9,5G  8,5G  568M  94% /
 /dev/hda1 130M  8,9M  114M   8% /boot
 tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
 /dev/hda2 135G  125G  3,2G  98% /home

 O problema esta no /dev/hda3, onde eu tenho no máximo 4GB ocupado e esta
 dando 8,5G.. outra coisa esquisita, que pode ser percebido ai em cima é
 que se tenho 9,5G de tamanho e 8,5G usado, porque só tenho 568M
 disponivel???

 Mais o problema principal é que tenho certeza que não tenho nem 5G
 ocupados nesta partição..

 conto com a ajuda de voces.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] não consigo entrar em rede com chave de segurança

2008-01-21 Thread Marcellino Junior
Resolvi alguns dos meus problemas instalando o pacote wireless-tools


On Jan 21, 2008 3:23 PM, alex okajima watanabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Olá Anderson,

   Como você está tentando conectar? E como você conecta sem a chave?
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] :: Placa Wireless Broadcom não a parece no lspci

2008-01-21 Thread Raphael Menezes
Caramba!

O led fica vermelho? Isso tá mais pra problema de hardware do q problema de
SO.

Eu tenho um dell 131l com este dispositivo, mas eu usei um .deb para
instala-lo. E foi tudo OK!



On 1/21/08, Rogerio R. Alcantara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Boa tarde galera,

 Meu nome é Rogério sou totalmente inciante no linux, e esse é o meu
 primeiro
 Post na lista.

 Instalei o Kubuntu 7.10 no meu note HP DV6258se da série DV6000.

 Este note possui a placa mini-PCI Wireless Network Connection 2 - Broadcom
 802.11b/g WLAN. E é acionado por uma chave na sua parte frontal.

 Na minha primeira instalação do Ubuntu 7.10, depois de fazer os
 procedimentos do ndiswrapper, o wireless funcionou perfeitamente.

 Por um problema de particionamento, tive que formatar todo o HD e instalar
 novamente o Kubuntu. Mas depois da nova instalação, nem os procedimentos
 do
 ndiswrapper, nem o do bcm43xx tb surtiram efeito. O Led permanece vermelho
 (quando ativo, o led fica azul).

 Depois de pesquisar em alguns tutoriais, tomei conhecimento e testei o
 comando lspci.. infelizmente a placa não é listada na lista de
 dispositívos.

 Instalei novamente o Windows Vista, apenas para verificar se este
 reconhecia
 o dispositivo, mas tb não reconheceu.

 Acredito que a minha placa (ou o slot miniPCI) tenha queimado. É possivel
 fazer outros testes para diagnosticar isso?

 Segue a saída do lspci:

 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
 00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
 00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
 00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
 00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce 6150
 Go]
 (rev
 a2)
 00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
 00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
 00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
 00:0a.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PMU (rev a3)
 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
 00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev f1)
 00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev
 f1)
 00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev
 a2)
 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
 HyperTra  nsport Technology
 Configuration
 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
 Address   Map
 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
 DRAM
 Con  troller
 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
 Miscella  neous Control
 07:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
 07:05.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822
 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSP  ro Host
 Adapter (rev 19)
 07:05.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev
 01)
 07:05.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host
 Adapter
 (re  v 0a)
 07:05.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev
 05)

 Agradeço antecipadamente e fico no aguardo.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF] % do HD utilizado totalmente errado

2008-01-21 Thread Joao Paulo
ext3

Jose Lera escreveu:
 Oi João , qual a formatação das unidades?
 ext3, reiser, xfs ?

 []'s Lera

 Em 21/01/08, Joao Paulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
 Senhores,

 preciso de uma ajuda urgente..

 primeiro que o servidor esta em Fedora e não ubuntu, mas eu estou tão
 confuso que resolvi tentar aqui tbm pra ver se alguém ja passou por isso.
 segundo que ele esta mostrando o espaço ocupado no HD totalmente
 errado.. alias.. mostrando não, hoje ele mostrou 100% de lotação e
 realmente parou um monte de serviço, mas eu nao consigo achar nada
 ocupando espaço, ja removi log, ja dei du -hs em todas as pastas e
 nada.. alguem ja passou por isso

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h
 Sist. Arq.Tam   Usad Disp  Uso% Montado em
 /dev/hda3 9,5G  8,5G  568M  94% /
 /dev/hda1 130M  8,9M  114M   8% /boot
 tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
 /dev/hda2 135G  125G  3,2G  98% /home

 O problema esta no /dev/hda3, onde eu tenho no máximo 4GB ocupado e esta
 dando 8,5G.. outra coisa esquisita, que pode ser percebido ai em cima é
 que se tenho 9,5G de tamanho e 8,5G usado, porque só tenho 568M
 disponivel???

 Mais o problema principal é que tenho certeza que não tenho nem 5G
 ocupados nesta partição..

 conto com a ajuda de voces.

 Obrigado,

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] HD nao reconhecido.

2008-01-21 Thread Salles
Prezado Artur,

Executei o comando conforme me passou:
sudo mkdir /media/disco  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/disco

Eis o resultado:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mkdir /media/disco  sudo
mount /dev/sdc1 /media/disco
[sudo] password for nethell:
mount: o dispositivo especial /dev/sdc1 não existe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

Se possível, me explique como caçar este fantasma...

Abraços,

Salles (Nethell)


Em Seg, 2008-01-21 às 14:40 -0300, Artur Oliveira Gomes escreveu:
 Salles,
 
 Vamos lá. Você falou que o hd que você quer montar e que não estava sendo
 reconhecido era esta criatura comentada aqui abaixo, correto?
 
 Disco /dev/sdc: 20.4 GB, 20416757760 bytes
  255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders
  Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
  Disk identifier: 0x484574ae
 
  Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
  /dev/sdc1   *   1248219936633+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 
 
 Só para testes, execute o seguinte comando
 
 sudo mkdir /media/disco  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/disco
 
 Este comando cria uma pasta disco, só para teste, e monta em seguida o
 conteúdo da partição neste ponto. Veja se ele monta mesmo e responda aqui.
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Aproveitamento de partição Windows para virtualização

2008-01-21 Thread Vinicius Franco do Nascimento
Existe outro problema jovem.

Se vc instalou o Grub nesse HD, ou seja é um dual boot não vai dar pra
fazer, eu tenho esse problema. Dá erro 17, e não dá pra operar. Pode olhar
no Google.

O que recomendo é vc criar uma partição de tamanho dinâmico no vmware, e
instalar o mínimo possível. Se vc montar o disco do Windows e criar sua seu
VMX dentro deste disco pode aproveitar o espaço mas não a partição.

Uma dica é instalar o VMWare dentro do windows instalado, fica perfeito. Use
o VMWare workstation para tal.

Um abraço,


On 1/21/08, Allison Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sim.

 Pelo menos no VMware.

 O detalhe é que como o ubuntu(não sei se outras distros também) a partir
 de
 7.04 enxerga os HDs IDE como scsi. Quando o windows inicializa pelo
 VMware,
 ele não encontra os IDEs como esperado pela instalação inicial e TELA
 AZUL.

 Existe, em tese, a possibilidade de instalar um driver SCSI no windows e
 alterar os parâmetros de inicialização para procurar os discos SCSI para
 bootar, mas não consegui fazer funcionar. (SE ALGUÉM TIVER UM MODO DE
 FUNCIONAR, POR FAVOR, ENVIE PARA A LISTA)

 No 6.06, sem problema. Instalei o vmware 5.5 e usei o windows na partição
 física sem problemas. Realmente um bom ganho de velocidade em relação a
 disco virtual.

 Com o VMware 6 ainda não testei no 6.06.

 Obs.: Existe uma espécie de receita de bolo para configurar o windows para
 funcionar no vmware e no modo normal também.


 []s
 Allison Almeida.

 Em 21/01/08, Alexandre Henrique Vieira Soares [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 escreveu:
 
  Pessoal, vocês sabem se tem como eu aproveitar uma partição Windows
  existente para virtualização, em vez de ter que instalar um novo
 Windows?
 
  Valeu.
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Aproveitamento de partição Windows para virtualização

2008-01-21 Thread Vinícius de Figueiredo Silva
Eu uso o Windows instalado em uma partição real também virtualizado
dentro do Ubuntu. O procedimento não é complexo, basta você criar dois
profiles de hardware no Windows (um real e outro pro VMware) e no
VMware Server do Ubuntu pedir para ele usar a partição real ao invés
de um disco virtual.

No primeiro boot vai dar a tela azul que você falou mas basta editar
na mão o arquivo de configuração da máquina virtual, alterando o
driver SCSI pra IDE e pronto.

Eu comecei a escrever um passo-a-passo sobre isso, vou terminar e
publicar no meu blog. Colo o endereço aqui para vocês.

Att,

2008/1/21 Allison Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Sim.

 Pelo menos no VMware.

 O detalhe é que como o ubuntu(não sei se outras distros também) a partir de
 7.04 enxerga os HDs IDE como scsi. Quando o windows inicializa pelo VMware,
 ele não encontra os IDEs como esperado pela instalação inicial e TELA
 AZUL.

 Existe, em tese, a possibilidade de instalar um driver SCSI no windows e
 alterar os parâmetros de inicialização para procurar os discos SCSI para
 bootar, mas não consegui fazer funcionar. (SE ALGUÉM TIVER UM MODO DE
 FUNCIONAR, POR FAVOR, ENVIE PARA A LISTA)

 No 6.06, sem problema. Instalei o vmware 5.5 e usei o windows na partição
 física sem problemas. Realmente um bom ganho de velocidade em relação a
 disco virtual.

 Com o VMware 6 ainda não testei no 6.06.

 Obs.: Existe uma espécie de receita de bolo para configurar o windows para
 funcionar no vmware e no modo normal também.


 []s
 Allison Almeida.

 Em 21/01/08, Alexandre Henrique Vieira Soares [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 escreveu:

 
  Pessoal, vocês sabem se tem como eu aproveitar uma partição Windows
  existente para virtualização, em vez de ter que instalar um novo Windows?
 
  Valeu.
 
 
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[Ubuntu-BR] Documentação para treinamento de s oftwares livres

2008-01-21 Thread Nilo Martins
Olá pessoal, estou montando dois CDs de pacote de aplicativos de Software
Livre para disponibilizar para a comunidade, uma versão Windows e outra com
Ubuntu + Pacote de softwares extras. Só que, além dos softwares, estou
querendo incluir material de apoio ao usuário iniciante, tais como:
Tutoriais, Apostilas, Instruções de Instalação, etc.

Estou querendo incluir apenas material livre de Copyright, ou seja, tem que
ser Creative Common ou com a autorização do autor.

Sei que posso encontrar vários tutoriais e apostilas pelo google e já estou
fazendo isso. Mas a ajuda de vocês seria em relação a qualidade do material,
pois está muito difícil selecionar o bom material do que não tem muita
informação útil para o usuário iniciante.

Agradeço toda ajuda e prometo reportar aqui o resultado do trabalho.

Estou precisando neste momento de material de apoio de boa qualidade para as
seguintes ferramentas:


CD para Windows

*Nome*

*Categoria*

*Site*

*Firefox*

Navegador Web

http://br.mozdev.org/firefox/

*BROffice / OpenOffice*

Pacote de ferramentas de Escritório

http://www.broffice.org/

*7-Zip*

Compactador de arquivos

http://www.7-zip.org/pt-br/

*aMSN*

Mensageiro Instantâneo

http://www.amsn-project.net/

*Pidgin*

Mensageiro Instantâneo

http://www.pidgin.im/

*VCL Mídia Player*

Vídeo e Audio

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

*Mplayer*

Video e Audio

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/

*ClamWin*

Antivirus

http://www.clamwin.com

*Eraser*

Antivirus

http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/

*Filezilla*

Cliente FTP e SSH

http://filezilla-project.org/index.php

*NVU*

Editor HTML

http://www.nvu.com/

*Amaya*

Editor HTML

http://www.w3.org/Amaya/

*Gimp*

Editor de Imagens/Fotos

http://www.gimp.org/

*GimpShop*

Editor de Imagens/Fotos

http://www.gimpshop.com/

*Inkscape*

Ilustrador de Imagens Vetoriais

http://www.inkscape.org/download/?lang=en

*Freemind*

Editor de Mapas Mentais

http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Download_and_install

*Blender*

Modelagem 3D

http://www.blender.org

*OpenProj*

Gerenciador de Projetos

http://openproj.org/

*ExpressoLivre*

Cliente de Email

www.expressolivre.org

*Dia*

Editor de Diagramas e Fluxogramas

http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
http://dia-installer.de/index_en.html

*Paint.Net*

Editor de Imagens/Fotos

http://www.getpaint.net

*PDFCreator*

Gerador de PDF

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

*NotePad++*

Editor de Textos para Programação

http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/br/


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