[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
What's the difference (about shipped icons) between the 2 branches of bzr trunk and debian-packaging? Why do they have different icons? and why are some icons blank (notification-network-*)? Thanks -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
On Saturday 11 July 2009 12:04:44 Nicolò Chieffo wrote: What's the difference (about shipped icons) between the 2 branches of bzr trunk and debian-packaging? Why do they have different icons? and why are some icons blank (notification-network-*)? It means that someone forgot to run debclean on the package before rebuilding :p -- Kenneth -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Kenneth Wimerkw...@ubuntu.com wrote: It means that someone forgot to run debclean on the package before rebuilding :p Anyway I've just received the new faces icons, so now it's synchronized (had to wait a few days, iirc) So my only doubt is why norification-network-* icons are 0x0 px -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Kenneth Wimerkw...@ubuntu.com wrote: It means that someone forgot to run debclean on the package before rebuilding :p Anyway I've just received the new faces icons, so now it's synchronized (had to wait a few days, iirc) So my only doubt is why norification-network-* icons are 0x0 px No no no. Currently, the 2 branches are out of sync. I have not moved or rendered the latest updates for both sets. Also, the notification-* icons have a bug (rendering blank PNGS) I will resolve before the 0.50 release is pushed. (waiting on more updates) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: Anyway I've just received the new faces icons, so now it's synchronized (had to wait a few days, iirc) So my only doubt is why norification-network-* icons are 0x0 px The network notification icons[for notify-osd] need to exist only in the scalable folder. The present script doesnt allow us to specifically send icons to certain folders. Cory is aware of the blank icons. He said he will look into it when he rebuilds the set. cheers, mac_v -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
Ok, I've just had a look in the scalable folder. it is blank even in the scalable folder. Is also this normal until the script bug is fixed? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] clarifications
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: Ok, I've just had a look in the scalable folder. it is blank even in the scalable folder. Is also this normal until the script bug is fixed? yes. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] updated packages
Kenneth, What do you think about setting the gtkbutton size to 16,16 in the gtk theme? It makes the buttons look more compact, which I'm sure users on a lower resolution (netbooks, laptops) would appreciate. The quality of the 16px Human icons seem good enough for this use. Look here for a before/after comparison: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7597314postcount=37 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Lots of updates. July 11th 2009
The past week has brought many bug fixes and a handful of new icons. Too much to mention right now. The highlight being a complete set of new folder icons including the XDG user dirs. https://code.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk @Andrew: If you would like to push to the PPA the current packaging branch state as testing package for 0.50 that would be cool. Maybe we call it 0.47 and 0.50 once things look good after some feedback? (just a day or 2) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Lots of updates. July 11th 2009
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: The past week has brought many bug fixes and a handful of new icons. Too much to mention right now. The highlight being a complete set of new folder icons including the XDG user dirs. https://code.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk @Andrew: If you would like to push to the PPA the current packaging branch state as testing package for 0.50 that would be cool. Maybe we call it 0.47 and 0.50 once things look good after some feedback? (just a day or 2) Uploaded. They're sitting in the build queue now, should be availiable in a few minutes... - Andrew -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] download icon bug
The download icon must be named folder-download and not folder-downloads Thanks -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] download icon bug
Nicolò Chieffo wrote: The download icon must be named folder-download and not folder-downloads. Fixed. Andrew can upload fix to PPA when he has the time. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] download icon bug
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Nicolò Chieffo wrote: The download icon must be named folder-download and not folder-downloads. Fixed. Andrew can upload fix to PPA when he has the time. Uploaded. - Andrew -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Équivalent de GOM Player?
Gilbert, Que donne la sortie de la commande: apt-cache policy libvlccore2 ? Mathieu Trudel mathieu...@gmail.com 2009/7/11 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com: J'ai oublié de préciser que j'ai fait un purge des nouvelles installations avant de réinstaller la version antérieure... Gilbert Le 11 juillet 2009 00:48, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Marc-Antoine, J'avais fait le tour de VLC pour voir s'il offrait ces contrôles et je n'avais pas trouvé. Maintenant que tu me dis qu'ils existent dans VLC, j'ai cherché de nouveau et j'ai trouvé où. Sauf que. Sauf que, encore une fois, j'ai bousillé quelque chose. J'avais installé une nouvelle version de VLC en début de soirée à partir d'un dépot PPA, tel que suggéré ici. Pour me rendre compte ensuite que l'écran vidéo de VLC n'affichait plus rien, était même transparente. Alors j'ai tenté de virer cette nouvelle version en supprimant de Sources de mise à jour le dépôt qui avait servi à télécharger le nouveau paquet, puis en mettant à jour ces sources pour finalement tenter de réinstaller la version que j'avais avant avec les commandes sudo aptitude install vlc mozilla-plugin-vlc et sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer lame livemedia-utils. Et depuis, même si je vois le Lecteur multimédia VLC dans Applications -Son et vidéo. il ne démarre pas. Pour voir s'il y avait des messages d'erreur, je l'ai lancé dans un terminal, et voici la fin de ce qu'il m'affiche: LibVLC fatal error locking mutex in thread 3081000656 at misc/objects.c:395: 22 Error message: Argument invalide at: /usr/lib/libvlccore.so.0(vlc_pthread_fatal+0xb5)[0xb7f40235] Abandon Alors je ne sais plus quoi faire pour remettre sur pied VLC. Comment réparer VLC maintenant? Gilbert Le 10 juillet 2009 23:53, Marc-Antoine Daneau daneau.marc-anto...@videotron.ca a écrit : bonjour Gilbert, VLC fait ça. cordialement, marc-antoine Gilbert Dion wrote: Existe-t-il un équivalent de GOM Player, ce lecteur multimédia qui excelle sur l'autre système? En particulier, j'appréciais de pouvoir contrôler la couleur, le contraste, la luminosité des vidéos, ce que je n'ai pas encore trouvé sur un lecteur multimédia en Ubuntu... -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Gilbert Dion gilbertdion.com -- Gilbert Dion gilbertdion.com -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Équivalent de GOM Player?
Plutôt ceci: libvlccore2: Installé : 1.0.0-1~ppa3 Candidat : 1.0.0-1~ppa3 Table de version : *** 1.0.0-1~ppa3 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status J'avais remis le dépôt ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu source de mes déboires... Je l'ai retiré de nouveau pour obtenir une sortie de commande un peu différente. Gilbert Le 11 juillet 2009 06:12, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com a écrit : Gilbert, Que donne la sortie de la commande: apt-cache policy libvlccore2 ? Mathieu Trudel mathieu...@gmail.com -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Équivalent de GOM Player?
Pour un newbie linux, tu prends pas mal de risques! C'est ton droit, mais en ce qui me concerne, je me limite habituellement aux versions des dépôts, sauf quand ces dernières font problèmes ou quand les différences de fonctionnalité sont telles que ça le justifie. La version de VLC du dépôt Ubuntu marche très bien... Pour désinstaller une nouvelle version, je la supprime complètement dans Synaptic, ou mieux, je vais dans terminal et je fais sudo apt-get purge nom_du_paquet. Le cas échéant, je fais aussi sudo apt-get autoremove pour enlever les paquets rendus inutiles par cette désinstallation. Après cela j'enlève le dépôt fautif et je réinstalle la version normale. Comme tu as réinstallé par-dessus la version PPA de VLC, j'aurais tendance à faire la séquence suivante : - Réinstaller la dernière version (donc ajouter à nouveau le PPA), pour m'assurer que la prochaine fois que je vais la désinstaller, le gestionnaire de paquet saura quoi faire. - Désinstaller avec apt-get purge; - Vérifier dans mon Home/nom_d'utilisateur qu'il ne me reste pas des fichiers de configuration (fais une recherche de la séquence vlc en incluant les fichiers cachés); le cas échéant, j'efface ces fichiers. - Enlever le dépôt fautif; - Mettre à jour la base de données (dans Synaptic ou avec apt-get update dans terminal) - installer la version du dépôt Ubuntu... Le samedi 11 juillet 2009 à 00:48 -0400, Gilbert Dion a écrit : Bonjour, Marc-Antoine, J'avais fait le tour de VLC pour voir s'il offrait ces contrôles et je n'avais pas trouvé. Maintenant que tu me dis qu'ils existent dans VLC, j'ai cherché de nouveau et j'ai trouvé où. Sauf que. Sauf que, encore une fois, j'ai bousillé quelque chose. J'avais installé une nouvelle version de VLC en début de soirée à partir d'un dépot PPA, tel que suggéré ici. Pour me rendre compte ensuite que l'écran vidéo de VLC n'affichait plus rien, était même transparente. Alors j'ai tenté de virer cette nouvelle version en supprimant de Sources de mise à jour le dépôt qui avait servi à télécharger le nouveau paquet, puis en mettant à jour ces sources pour finalement tenter de réinstaller la version que j'avais avant avec les commandes sudo aptitude install vlc mozilla-plugin-vlc et sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer lame livemedia-utils. Et depuis, même si je vois le Lecteur multimédia VLC dans Applications -Son et vidéo. il ne démarre pas. Pour voir s'il y avait des messages d'erreur, je l'ai lancé dans un terminal, et voici la fin de ce qu'il m'affiche: LibVLC fatal error locking mutex in thread 3081000656 at misc/objects.c:395: 22 Error message: Argument invalide at: /usr/lib/libvlccore.so.0(vlc_pthread_fatal+0xb5)[0xb7f40235] Abandon Alors je ne sais plus quoi faire pour remettre sur pied VLC. Comment réparer VLC maintenant? Gilbert Le 10 juillet 2009 23:53, Marc-Antoine Daneau daneau.marc-anto...@videotron.ca a écrit : bonjour Gilbert, VLC fait ça. cordialement, marc-antoine Gilbert Dion wrote: Existe-t-il un équivalent de GOM Player, ce lecteur multimédia qui excelle sur l'autre système? En particulier, j'appréciais de pouvoir contrôler la couleur, le contraste, la luminosité des vidéos, ce que je n'ai pas encore trouvé sur un lecteur multimédia en Ubuntu... -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Gilbert Dion gilbertdion.com -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Équivalent de GOM Player?
Merci, Martin, il fallait procéder dans l'ordre, ce que je n'avais pas fait. Et dans mon cas, l'étape manquante, c'est qu'il fallait garder le dépôt avant de procéder à la purge (si je me souviens bien de ce que j'ai fait hier) pour que le gestionnaire de paquets sache quoi faire, comme tu dis. Et puis, désolé d'avoir voulu chercher ailleurs ce que vlc fait déjà très bien. Je suis allé trop vite. C'est vrai, je prends sans doute trop de risques et je devrais freiner mes ardeurs. Mais je croyais qu'un titre comme Install VLC 1.0.0 Final In Ubuntu (from a PPA Repository) était garant de fonctionnement irréprochable. Je prends quand même quelques précautions, par exemple j'attends que Firefox 3.5 soit dans les dépôts, comme je l'ai fait pour Open Office 3 (en fait, c'est parce que c'est moins compliqué). Mais se restreindre aux versions dans les dépôts, cela veut-il dire qu'il faudrait se passer d'Opera, Skype et autres? (Je pose la question en toute bonne foi, et sans vouloir soulever de débats entre libre et non libre.) J'ai un dilemme. Comme je suis curieux et que je veux avancer, où mettre la barre? Je ne voudrais pas donner l'impression de m'adonner à tous les dangers en me disant qu'il y aura toujours quelqu'un sur la liste pour me dépanner. En même temps, j'aurais bien de la difficulté à ne pas essayer des choses, juste par peur de casser la machine. J'ai toujours déploré que le logiciel bubakup a cessé de fonctionner avec la version 8.10. Je faisais une sauvegarde du système complet avant d'installer des nouvelles affaires. J'ai bien installé remastersys, mais il limite le backup à la taille d'un DVD, ce que j'ai dépassé depuis un bout de temps. Serait-ce une bonne idée de faire un backup de partition à l'aide de gparted? (Je vois un danger: le systeme aura deux partitions boot! Non?) Gilbert Le 11 juillet 2009 11:31, Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com a écrit : Pour un newbie linux, tu prends pas mal de risques! C'est ton droit, mais en ce qui me concerne, je me limite habituellement aux versions des dépôts, sauf quand ces dernières font problèmes ou quand les différences de fonctionnalité sont telles que ça le justifie. La version de VLC du dépôt Ubuntu marche très bien... Pour désinstaller une nouvelle version, je la supprime complètement dans Synaptic, ou mieux, je vais dans terminal et je fais sudo apt-get purge nom_du_paquet. Le cas échéant, je fais aussi sudo apt-get autoremove pour enlever les paquets rendus inutiles par cette désinstallation. Après cela j'enlève le dépôt fautif et je réinstalle la version normale. Comme tu as réinstallé par-dessus la version PPA de VLC, j'aurais tendance à faire la séquence suivante : - Réinstaller la dernière version (donc ajouter à nouveau le PPA), pour m'assurer que la prochaine fois que je vais la désinstaller, le gestionnaire de paquet saura quoi faire. - Désinstaller avec apt-get purge; - Vérifier dans mon Home/nom_d'utilisateur qu'il ne me reste pas des fichiers de configuration (fais une recherche de la séquence vlc en incluant les fichiers cachés); le cas échéant, j'efface ces fichiers. - Enlever le dépôt fautif; - Mettre à jour la base de données (dans Synaptic ou avec apt-get update dans terminal) - installer la version du dépôt Ubuntu... -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] On peut faire des backups avec GParted?
Il y a une fonction copier la partition vers le presse-papier et sa contrepartie coller la partition depuis le presse-papier. Je n'ai pu les mettre en pratique pour l'instant. J'ai pu copier, mais je n'ai pu coller. Sans doute parce que ça prend une partition de destination de même taille que la source. Mais je lisais dans un forum qu'en ce qui concerne Windows, il fallait retirer le disque contenant la copie sans quoi le système ne saurait plus où donner de la tête au moment de démarrer... Le 11 juillet 2009 17:11, Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com a écrit : On peut faire des backups avec GParted? -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Équivalent de GOM Player?
En fait, comme je disais, on est libre de faire ce que l'on veut. La curiosité est une qualité, c'est quand même comme ça qu'on apprend. :) Dans le fond, c'est à toi de décider, selon le temps dont tu disposes. Et il y a quand même des logiciels pour lesquels nous n'avons pas le choix (Opera - quoique personnellement je l'installe avec le paquet Debian, Skype, etc.) d'aller au-dehors. C'est la beauté d'Ubuntu, si tu veux expérimenter et que cela créé un problèeme, il y a toujours quelqu'un sur les listes et/ou les forums qui a une réponse et est désireux de la partager. Surtout, sens-toi à l'aise de poser des questions ici: de toutes façons, c'est souvent aussi une façcn d'apprendre pour les autres. Pour les backups, je n'ai pas grand chose d'intelligent à dire, parce que les miens, je les fais manuellement en copiant les répertoires appropriés sur un autre disque... Pour mes paramètres, je me suis créé des scripts d'installation qui automatisent pas mal le tout. On peut faire des backups avec GParted? Le samedi 11 juillet 2009 à 16:56 -0400, Gilbert Dion a écrit : Merci, Martin, il fallait procéder dans l'ordre, ce que je n'avais pas fait. Et dans mon cas, l'étape manquante, c'est qu'il fallait garder le dépôt avant de procéder à la purge (si je me souviens bien de ce que j'ai fait hier) pour que le gestionnaire de paquets sache quoi faire, comme tu dis. Et puis, désolé d'avoir voulu chercher ailleurs ce que vlc fait déjà très bien. Je suis allé trop vite. C'est vrai, je prends sans doute trop de risques et je devrais freiner mes ardeurs. Mais je croyais qu'un titre comme Install VLC 1.0.0 Final In Ubuntu (from a PPA Repository) était garant de fonctionnement irréprochable. Je prends quand même quelques précautions, par exemple j'attends que Firefox 3.5 soit dans les dépôts, comme je l'ai fait pour Open Office 3 (en fait, c'est parce que c'est moins compliqué). Mais se restreindre aux versions dans les dépôts, cela veut-il dire qu'il faudrait se passer d'Opera, Skype et autres? (Je pose la question en toute bonne foi, et sans vouloir soulever de débats entre libre et non libre.) J'ai un dilemme. Comme je suis curieux et que je veux avancer, où mettre la barre? Je ne voudrais pas donner l'impression de m'adonner à tous les dangers en me disant qu'il y aura toujours quelqu'un sur la liste pour me dépanner. En même temps, j'aurais bien de la difficulté à ne pas essayer des choses, juste par peur de casser la machine. J'ai toujours déploré que le logiciel bubakup a cessé de fonctionner avec la version 8.10. Je faisais une sauvegarde du système complet avant d'installer des nouvelles affaires. J'ai bien installé remastersys, mais il limite le backup à la taille d'un DVD, ce que j'ai dépassé depuis un bout de temps. Serait-ce une bonne idée de faire un backup de partition à l'aide de gparted? (Je vois un danger: le systeme aura deux partitions boot! Non?) Gilbert Le 11 juillet 2009 11:31, Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com a écrit : Pour un newbie linux, tu prends pas mal de risques! C'est ton droit, mais en ce qui me concerne, je me limite habituellement aux versions des dépôts, sauf quand ces dernières font problèmes ou quand les différences de fonctionnalité sont telles que ça le justifie. La version de VLC du dépôt Ubuntu marche très bien... Pour désinstaller une nouvelle version, je la supprime complètement dans Synaptic, ou mieux, je vais dans terminal et je fais sudo apt-get purge nom_du_paquet. Le cas échéant, je fais aussi sudo apt-get autoremove pour enlever les paquets rendus inutiles par cette désinstallation. Après cela j'enlève le dépôt fautif et je réinstalle la version normale. Comme tu as réinstallé par-dessus la version PPA de VLC, j'aurais tendance à faire la séquence suivante : - Réinstaller la dernière version (donc ajouter à nouveau le PPA), pour m'assurer que la prochaine fois que je vais la désinstaller, le gestionnaire de paquet saura quoi faire. - Désinstaller avec apt-get purge; - Vérifier dans mon Home/nom_d'utilisateur qu'il ne me reste pas des fichiers de configuration (fais une recherche de la séquence vlc en incluant les fichiers cachés); le cas échéant, j'efface ces fichiers. - Enlever le dépôt fautif; - Mettre à jour la base de données (dans Synaptic ou avec apt-get update dans terminal) - installer la version du dépôt Ubuntu... -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[ubuntu-uk] Email notifier, black-on-black panel legends
I found solutions to both of these. There is a tray notifier for Evolution (though not one for Thunderbird) in the repositories, namely the packets mail-notification and mail-notification-evolution. As for the black-on-black panel legends problem, it is solved by switching the desktop theme from 'Human' (the default) to 'DarkRoom'. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?
Rob Beard wrote: Sean Miller wrote: I concur... Openoffice is bloatware of the highest order. If I could be bothered to get an older version of Office working on wine I would - but I don't use office suites enough to do so. It's a shame, really, that Sun decided to go down the bloated route, because the early versions of Openoffice were really quite pleasant to use; I dread to click on a .doc attachment in an e-mail because I know the machine will whirr and click for ages before I actually get to see it. Sean I'd have to disagree on this one. I've just opened a spreadsheet (one of my invoices) in OpenOffice. I'm running my notebook in low power mode (1GHz) to save battery and it took 5 seconds from a cold start. I'd hardly say that is ages. There are tweaks that you can do to OpenOffice to speed it up such as altering the memory usage [1]. You really shouldn't have to tweak a productivity app in such a way to make it usable, IMHO. Granted it took 12 seconds for Word to open up on my Mac when I tried it there, but at least I know I'll enjoy using it :) Now compare that to Office 2007 on one of my clients notebooks running Vista, it takes a good 30 or so seconds to start up. Not to mention, when did this become an OpenOffice bashing Mac loving mailing list? Did it? My main computer is a MacBook Pro, my media server is a Mac mini, so I usually speak to my own personal experiences. However, all my servers[1] run Ubuntu Server LTS, and in the past I've run a gamut of desktop OSes including all versions of Windows (bar Me) and most recent versions of Ubuntu. In all cases, I've rarely enjoyed using OOo, and I shared Sean's dread when opening documents that wanted to use OOo due to the grindage and carnage that would ensue. Note that I'm not saying everyone should use MS Office over OOo, just that I have a personal preference, and I think that everyone should try and use the best tool for the job within the bounds of their preferences. I have got a Mac myself (albeit older iMac G3) and I have used Macs for many years (going back to the old 68k Macs on System 6) but I find sometimes doing things on a Mac can be just as annoying as doing stuff on Windows (or in some cases as doing things on Linux). I guess really Odd, I rarely find using my Macs annoying. I've spent more years cursing at Windows than I ever have at OS X or [insert Linux distro here]. it's what you're used to. For instance I'm used to a lot of keyboard shortcuts and generally the shortcuts are the same on Windows and Ubuntu (for most applications), now going to a Mac I find that rather than using CTRL I have to use the Option key. Not a big thing really but I do find it annoying sometimes. I dare say it can be annoying for a Mac user to go to a Windows or Linux box and find that some things aren't Mac like. Indeed. With regards too William's comment about OpenOffice not being a native app. As far as I'm aware OpenOffice 3.1 IS a native app for OS X on Intel CPUs, and there is also NeoOffice (which IIRC is a native build of OpenOffice on both OS X Intel and OS X PPC). Sorry, my natively comment was referring to the UI, which has always seemed to me to be more interested in appearing the same across all platforms (which never works) than appearing attractive and highly usable on each platform so that it plays to each's strengths. Just a pet hate. With regards to MS Office 2008 being prettier than OpenOffice, remember this, the cheapest version of Office 2008 is the Home Student version Yup, that's the version I have. which is about £70 (doing a quick google check), and how much is Yeah, I got the 3-user edition from amazon for a shade under 80 quid. And for me, that was money well spent. YMMV, naturally. OpenOffice? - FREE! Free to obtain, certainly, but the cost of someone's time to figure out the differences or possible shortcomings of OOo against MS Office could be expensive. There is nothing stopping anyone picking up the code for OpenOffice and contributing to make it look better and work better and it's not as if This is another attitude within the FLOSS community that irks me :) Not everyone is a coder! you get it shoved down your throat like you do with Office 2007 on a new machine (I've lost count of the amount of Windows PCs I've seen with Office 2007 trial preinstalled which can only be used about 20 times before it disables itself and turns into a bloated Office viewer). Shoved down your throat, right. See, this is what I'm talking about. Not your comment, but the practice of shoving things down people's throats when they didn't ask for them, such as recommending OOo when the OP wanted help with MS Office. Apologies to Mike if his comments were well-intentioned, which I have no doubt they were, but comments like why aren't you using $FOO when the question was can someone help me with $BAR just drive me nuts sometimes.
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: Not to mention, when did this become an OpenOffice bashing Mac loving mailing list? I was merely expressing my experience. Openoffice takes ages to open for me on both Windows and Ubuntu - I find KOffice to be a better (and much quicker) option but it obviously doesn't have the same level of compatibility with Microsoft's products, which is essential if you're being sent documents created on Word/Excel etc. by others. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Connecting to a NAS drive in Ubuntu
I am trying to connect to my NAS drive in Ubuntu 9.04. I used to be able to do it when running Ubuntu 8.04, but now when I mount the NAS drive, the group is set to 501, and the owner is set to 501 - User #501 and thus I cannot access any files on the NAS drive. I can read the directory listings, but I have files on there I need to access, but I cannot access them. I have tried sudo nautilus to get root access but permission is denied still for reading any files. I tried to set up a group called 501 but Ubuntu told me it had to start with a letter. I used the following command to mount the NAS sudo mount -t cifs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 which mounts it okay. I used to use sudo mount -t smbfs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 which also works to mount, but read that cifs has now replaced smbfs, but neither option allows me to access any files. I have samba, smbfs, and gadmin-samba installed. I also tried switching off the NAS and then on again, and then mounting it again. How can I gain read-write access to my files on the NAS? David King -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?
William Anderson wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Sean Miller wrote: I concur... Openoffice is bloatware of the highest order. If I could be bothered to get an older version of Office working on wine I would - but I don't use office suites enough to do so. It's a shame, really, that Sun decided to go down the bloated route, because the early versions of Openoffice were really quite pleasant to use; I dread to click on a .doc attachment in an e-mail because I know the machine will whirr and click for ages before I actually get to see it. Sean I'd have to disagree on this one. I've just opened a spreadsheet (one of my invoices) in OpenOffice. I'm running my notebook in low power mode (1GHz) to save battery and it took 5 seconds from a cold start. I'd hardly say that is ages. There are tweaks that you can do to OpenOffice to speed it up such as altering the memory usage [1]. You really shouldn't have to tweak a productivity app in such a way to make it usable, IMHO. Granted it took 12 seconds for Word to open up on my Mac when I tried it there, but at least I know I'll enjoy using it :) Actually I haven't done the tweaks on my laptop. Now compare that to Office 2007 on one of my clients notebooks running Vista, it takes a good 30 or so seconds to start up. Not to mention, when did this become an OpenOffice bashing Mac loving mailing list? Did it? My main computer is a MacBook Pro, my media server is a Mac mini, so I usually speak to my own personal experiences. However, all my servers[1] run Ubuntu Server LTS, and in the past I've run a gamut of desktop OSes including all versions of Windows (bar Me) and most recent versions of Ubuntu. In all cases, I've rarely enjoyed using OOo, and I shared Sean's dread when opening documents that wanted to use OOo due to the grindage and carnage that would ensue. Note that I'm not saying everyone should use MS Office over OOo, just that I have a personal preference, and I think that everyone should try and use the best tool for the job within the bounds of their preferences. I just got the general impression that you were saying that Macs were the the be all and end all, guess I read it wrong. You're lucky not to have used Me, I had the annoying task of supporting it once, wasn't fun at all :-( I have got a Mac myself (albeit older iMac G3) and I have used Macs for many years (going back to the old 68k Macs on System 6) but I find sometimes doing things on a Mac can be just as annoying as doing stuff on Windows (or in some cases as doing things on Linux). I guess really Odd, I rarely find using my Macs annoying. I've spent more years cursing at Windows than I ever have at OS X or [insert Linux distro here]. I dare say if I used my Mac more I probably wouldn't find it as annoying. I must admit I did find some features useful, but not enough to stray me away from Ubuntu full time. it's what you're used to. For instance I'm used to a lot of keyboard shortcuts and generally the shortcuts are the same on Windows and Ubuntu (for most applications), now going to a Mac I find that rather than using CTRL I have to use the Option key. Not a big thing really but I do find it annoying sometimes. I dare say it can be annoying for a Mac user to go to a Windows or Linux box and find that some things aren't Mac like. Indeed. With regards too William's comment about OpenOffice not being a native app. As far as I'm aware OpenOffice 3.1 IS a native app for OS X on Intel CPUs, and there is also NeoOffice (which IIRC is a native build of OpenOffice on both OS X Intel and OS X PPC). Sorry, my natively comment was referring to the UI, which has always seemed to me to be more interested in appearing the same across all platforms (which never works) than appearing attractive and highly usable on each platform so that it plays to each's strengths. Just a pet hate. Fair enough. With regards to MS Office 2008 being prettier than OpenOffice, remember this, the cheapest version of Office 2008 is the Home Student version Yup, that's the version I have. which is about £70 (doing a quick google check), and how much is Yeah, I got the 3-user edition from amazon for a shade under 80 quid. And for me, that was money well spent. YMMV, naturally. I do admit, if you're after MS Office then it is an attractive offer. I am hoping that they do the same with Windows 7 as my other half can't get on with Ubuntu (she can use it, just doesn't like it) so I'm looking at upgrading her laptop and PC to Windows 7 (although that might annoy her even more). OpenOffice? - FREE! Free to obtain, certainly, but the cost of someone's time to figure out the differences or possible shortcomings of OOo against MS Office could be expensive. 90% of the people I've given copies of OpenOffice to have not had
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connecting to a NAS drive in Ubuntu
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 10:04 +0100, David King wrote: I am trying to connect to my NAS drive in Ubuntu 9.04. I used to be able to do it when running Ubuntu 8.04, but now when I mount the NAS drive, the group is set to 501, and the owner is set to 501 - User #501 and thus I cannot access any files on the NAS drive. I can read the directory listings, but I have files on there I need to access, but I cannot access them. I have tried sudo nautilus to get root access but permission is denied still for reading any files. I tried to set up a group called 501 but Ubuntu told me it had to start with a letter. I used the following command to mount the NAS sudo mount -t cifs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 which mounts it okay. I used to use sudo mount -t smbfs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 which also works to mount, but read that cifs has now replaced smbfs, but neither option allows me to access any files. I have samba, smbfs, and gadmin-samba installed. I also tried switching off the NAS and then on again, and then mounting it again. How can I gain read-write access to my files on the NAS? David King Hi David, You need to tell the mount line to override the uid and gid of the files. This can be done with the options switch on the mount line like: sudo mount -t cifs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 -o uid=1000,gid=1000 You'll need to look up the id for your user and your group, you can find that info in /etc/group, which will look like yourgroupname:x:gid: and in /etc/passwd. If you're the first user they'll probab;y both be 1000. Hope that helps! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open with... WHAT?
On 11/07/09 11:05, Paul Webster wrote: Dear Alan Hi Paul, As the UK-Ubuntu list seems to be a spaghetti-like state at the moment (so it seems to me), I thought I'd send my reply to your kind advice directly to you, as you may not have seen it through the jungle (to switch metaphors). I saw your reply but didn't have anything further to add at the time and have been quite busy. I don't particularly mind you mailing me directly, but others might not be so agreeable. We are all people like you and seek and offer knowledge freely. But sometimes we prefer to keep it just to the list and not go off-line. It also breaks the thread and means anyone else reading/searching for the same issue will not find a possible solution. I'm not using any email client. I am downloading attachments from gmail using Firefox. That's why the .doc/.rtf/.pdf. files I wrote about appear in a downloads window, waiting to be opened (except for .pdf, which gets opened automatically). In a very *similar* way to Thunderbird, look in Edit-Preferences-Applications. Alan PS: I've sent this to the list for archival purposes. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] BBC sound
When I try to listen to a sound broadcast such as 5 live, a window opens and then Firefox crashes. However, I am able to watch and listen in pop-out player with no problem. Any suggestions to overcome this difficulty would be very welcome. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?
Rob Beard wrote: [snip] I just got the general impression that you were saying that Macs were the the be all and end all, guess I read it wrong. You're lucky not to have used Me, I had the annoying task of supporting it once, wasn't fun at all :-( Apologies if that's the way I come across. I'm a big proponent of Ubuntu on both the server and desktop (an increasingly meaningless term in the face of fast rising laptop dominance and increasing numbers of netbooks appearing), but I caught the Mac bug again big style a couple of years ago and have found it hard to shake. You'll note I'm using Thunderbird to send mail (talking to a postfix/dovecot backend here at home), and I use Firefox and lots of other FLOSS apps on my Mac too ... macports is an especially useful piece of software since I don't have good old dpkg/apt on OS X :) [snip] 2008 is about a gig here. I agree that for something you'd use to create a spreadsheet or type up a letter, that's insane. For reference, iWork '09 is 650 meg. Makes me wonder exactly what Microsoft have put in there. Maybe I'm just a bit cynical, I remember when Word came on a couple of floppies and did just as good a job. Probably magic UI stuff (newer versions of office on windows have that awesome ribbon thing, for example), templates galore, common library components, et cetera, et cetera ... -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC sound
I forgot to add that I am running 9.04. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer problems
2009/7/11 Wulfy wulfm...@tiscali.co.uk: I tried to do that but with a 32-bit WinXP guest. The problem is that VirtualBox wouldn't pass the USB through, even though I'd downloaded the version that's supposed to do that. Did you install the guest additions? They're needed to get USB working, IIRC. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connecting to a NAS drive in Ubuntu
Thanks, Matthew, that worked perfectly. I have saved it in a script so that I can mount the NAS from the CLI when I need to use it, and have full read-write access. David King Matthew Daubney wrote: Hi David, You need to tell the mount line to override the uid and gid of the files. This can be done with the options switch on the mount line like: sudo mount -t cifs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 -o uid=1000,gid=1000 You'll need to look up the id for your user and your group, you can find that info in /etc/group, which will look like yourgroupname:x:gid: and in /etc/passwd. If you're the first user they'll probab;y both be 1000. Hope that helps! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connecting to a network
I do have another problem, with the network. I have put my Asus EeePC running Xandros on the network, and I want to connect to it from my Ubuntu PC and vice versa. I have installed samba on Ubuntu, plus gadmin-samba, and Firestarter. I have tried to set up the file sharing so that the Asus can access my home directory, and so that Ubuntu can access the Asus home directory. But when trying to access Asus from Ubuntu, it asks for a username, domain and password. But when I entered the Asus username, the PC name, and the password, it would not connect. Error message: Unable to mount location. Failed to mount Windows share. And from the Asus, when I try to connect to the Ubuntu PC, I get an error saying No route to host. I have used networking successfully in the past. It was not difficult at all in Windows XP, 2000 and 98 (although I found it to be impossible in Windows ME). I then started using Xandros, and networking with that was very easy. I have also networked PCs running other Linux distros, but when it comes to Ubuntu, I just cannot get it to work. I have tried in 7.10, 8.04 and now 9.04 -- I always get no access to other PCs on the network from Ubuntu, and no access to Ubuntu from other PCs. However, I can access my NAS okay from Ubuntu (as mentioned earlier, below). So why is networking in Ubuntu so very difficult to set up? What is the magic thing I need to enter to make it work? Other distros make it much easier. Ubuntu did not even have Samba installed by default, so I fear I may still need to install another piece of software to make it all work. Firestarter is set up to allow incoming traffic to all using Samba, and I specified the network by IP (192.168.0.2-192.168.0.255) and by name. And when I try to access the Ubuntu network share via Network in Nautilus, which I should be able to do as it is the PC I am accessing it from, I get an error saying Unable to mount location. Failed to retrieve share list from server. So how do I get networking/filesharing working in Ubuntu? David King David King wrote: Thanks, Matthew, that worked perfectly. I have saved it in a script so that I can mount the NAS from the CLI when I need to use it, and have full read-write access. David King Matthew Daubney wrote: Hi David, You need to tell the mount line to override the uid and gid of the files. This can be done with the options switch on the mount line like: sudo mount -t cifs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 -o uid=1000,gid=1000 You'll need to look up the id for your user and your group, you can find that info in /etc/group, which will look like yourgroupname:x:gid: and in /etc/passwd. If you're the first user they'll probab;y both be 1000. Hope that helps! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC sound
Is it a Flash-based streaming media? David King Norman Silverstone wrote: When I try to listen to a sound broadcast such as 5 live, a window opens and then Firefox crashes. However, I am able to watch and listen in pop-out player with no problem. Any suggestions to overcome this difficulty would be very welcome. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer problems
Neil Greenwood wrote: 2009/7/11 Wulfy wulfm...@tiscali.co.uk: I tried to do that but with a 32-bit WinXP guest. The problem is that VirtualBox wouldn't pass the USB through, even though I'd downloaded the version that's supposed to do that. Did you install the guest additions? They're needed to get USB working, IIRC. Cofion/Regards, Neil. Yes. I could see the USB in the Device menu but it was greyed out and I couldn't click it. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Stolen Earth
David King wrote: I wonder what a Dalek running on Ubuntu would be like? Well for starters, there'd be none of these legacy proprietary limitations regarding stairs (unless there were outstanding patent issues with this technology). All Daleks would be a tasteful shade of chocolate brown with the exception of the cult of K Daleks which would be instantly recognisable by by the blue colour, lots of unnecessary flashes and the way they prepend a K to the names of their komrades. Several companies would also start to commercialise the Dalek race for their own purposes, adding builtin integration with a large starcloud services providor to allow the modified Daleks to access their services to send messages and search for the most efficient way to exterminate their targets. Some Dalek experts would criticise this approach and suggest that latency in deep space could become an issue whilst communicating through busy wormholes whilst purists would suggest that googleks could become totally reliant on these third party services, compromising their ability to exterminate impartially. Currently, however, all existing Daleks run a optimised version of the Microsoft Windows 7 Dalek Ultimate Edition operating system. From http://dalek.microsoft.com/en-us/ultimate/FX101674081033.aspx : Windows 7 Dalek Ultimate Edition contains a number of game changing features and patented extermination methods to deliver an award winning experience all round. The exclusive ability to Reboot at Random (RaR) has been at the core of all Windows 7 Dalek editions since the initial release and has not left them since. Indeed it continues to keep thousands employed as engineers wormhole across space and time to restart Dalek Terminal Services from the console, helping to stimulate the economy. -- feel free to expand elaborate I'm too tired to continue :) Tim -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] OFF: Gerenciador de downloads para o megaupload
Eu gosto do curl e do aria, só não entendi porque agora no jaunty só aparece o aria2 que é por linha de comando - mas o flashgot do firefox reconhece, o Aria gráfico era muito bom, mas não consegui instalar no jaunty, aliás, se alguém se alguém sabe como fazer, agradeço a informação Salles escreveu: Em Qua, 2009-07-08 às 20:43 -0400, Flávio Barros escreveu: Alguém conhece um gerenciador de downloads para o megaupload ? Testei um tal de Tucan mas dá muito problema. Flávio não uso gerenciadores de download (faço poucos e não ví necessidade de gerencia-los até então), mas dei uma pesquisada e falam do Gwget (front-end do Wget), D4X, DownThenAll do Firefox e do Opera. Acho que é uma questão de testar para ver qual o melhor para você. E quando preciso baixar arquivos mais robustos sujeitos à pausas prefiro usar o BitTorrent, mais lento porém bem confiável. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como fazer para o evolution perguntar se quer carregar imagens
Bruno, Eu não quis usar o evolution justamente porque não podia limitar o tamanho dos dowloads, entre outras regras. Se você descobriu como, me manda por favor Leonardo Bergamo www.leober.log7.net Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-07-09 às 10:15 -0300, Bruno Donate Magalhães escreveu: Eu usava o thunderbird mas agora to querendo usar o evolution... alguém sabe como faço para que ele pergunte se quero carregar as imagens de um e-mail ou não, por exemplo do submarino Só consigo habilitar ou desabilitar o carregamento. Bruno, Nas opções gerais você habilita ou desabilita para todas as mensagens, não sei se o caminho está correto, mas experimente isto: Com a mensagem selecionada, vá em Mensagem Criar regra Filtro por remetente; em Adicionar critério Contém, marque anexos (não ví a opção imagens). Preencha os demais campos necessários e aplique. Se não for isto, simplesmente remova a regra criada. Depois retorna para a gente se funcionar. Abraços, Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com modem 3g
Sinceramente? Parece meio estranha essa história. Não de tua parte e sim da equipe técnica da operadora. Um virus, no windows, nada mais é do que um arquivo executável ou auto-executável. Quando o dispositivo infectado, no caso o modem mas poderia ser um pen drive usb por exemplo, é conectado à máquina o virus automaticamente tenta se replicar nos diretórios do ambiente. Porém, como no linux, isso não funciona pois o ambiente é totalmente diverso, logo a ação de auto-replicação cai por terra. O modem deveria funcionar mesmo com virus justamente pq vc tá usando linux. Tendeu? E mais: teoricamente o linux deveria ler todos os arquivos contidos no modem e poder agir sobre eles, deletando ou modificando. logue um terminal como root, entre no modem e dê um ls -a para ver todos os arquivos contidos nele mais os ocultos. A menos que alguém tenha, no windows, apagado arquivos essenciais do modem, aí não vai funcionar mesmo, caso contrário o problema é mais embaixo. 2009/7/10 Daniel Alves dan...@centralborrachas.com.br Boa tarde pessoal, fico cada dia mais impressionado com a capacidade do windows... ha alguns dias não consigo mais conectar a meu modem 3g no note (ubuntu 9.04) então depois de muita tentativa frustrada eu enviei ele pra assistencia técnica, qual não foi minha surpresa qdo recebi esse email da CLARO: Daniel, Conforme informações do nosso pós venda, o problema foi ocasionado devido a que o local onde foi conectado este moden estava com vírus e foi transferido a placa do mesmo e não por um problema operacional vindo da Claro como era suspeito à princípio. Conforme já segue alinhado com o Jéferson estaremos enviando o moden da Central Borrachas para a assistência técnica para formatar, e também estaremos fornecendo a modo de empréstimo um modem da Click para Central Borrachas. Caso tenha mais alguma solicitação estamos à disposição para atendê-lo. Fiquei espantado, pq minha máquina é linux, até desconfiei de que era so enrolação da CLARO (pra variar) mas ai me lembrei que tinha emprestado esse modem a um amigo, e provavelmente a maquina dele estava com virus... esse virus se alojou na memoria do modem (aquele onde fica o programa instalador do modem para windows) e de algum modo danificou o mesmo... ai não funcionava mais nem em windows e nem no ubuntu... Parece brincadeira né... Abraços e bom final de semana a todos -- Daniel Alves Gerente de Compras (67) 3383-3311 (67) 9277-0081 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com modem 3g
Em Sáb, 2009-07-11 às 08:53 -0300, Felipe Cabral escreveu: Sinceramente? Parece meio estranha essa história. Não de tua parte e sim da equipe técnica da operadora. Um virus, no windows, nada mais é do que um arquivo executável ou auto-executável. Quando o dispositivo infectado, no caso o modem mas poderia ser um pen drive usb por exemplo, é conectado à máquina o virus automaticamente tenta se replicar nos diretórios do ambiente. Porém, como no linux, isso não funciona pois o ambiente é totalmente diverso, logo a ação de auto-replicação cai por terra. O modem deveria funcionar mesmo com virus justamente pq vc tá usando linux. Tendeu? E mais: teoricamente o linux deveria ler todos os arquivos contidos no modem e poder agir sobre eles, deletando ou modificando. logue um terminal como root, entre no modem e dê um ls -a para ver todos os arquivos contidos nele mais os ocultos. A menos que alguém tenha, no windows, apagado arquivos essenciais do modem, aí não vai funcionar mesmo, caso contrário o problema é mais embaixo. 2009/7/10 Daniel Alves dan...@centralborrachas.com.br Boa tarde pessoal, fico cada dia mais impressionado com a capacidade do windows... ha alguns dias não consigo mais conectar a meu modem 3g no note (ubuntu 9.04) então depois de muita tentativa frustrada eu enviei ele pra assistencia técnica, qual não foi minha surpresa qdo recebi esse email da CLARO: Daniel, Conforme informações do nosso pós venda, o problema foi ocasionado devido a que o local onde foi conectado este moden estava com vírus e foi transferido a placa do mesmo e não por um problema operacional vindo da Claro como era suspeito à princípio. Conforme já segue alinhado com o Jéferson estaremos enviando o moden da Central Borrachas para a assistência técnica para formatar, e também estaremos fornecendo a modo de empréstimo um modem da Click para Central Borrachas. Caso tenha mais alguma solicitação estamos à disposição para atendê-lo. Fiquei espantado, pq minha máquina é linux, até desconfiei de que era so enrolação da CLARO (pra variar) mas ai me lembrei que tinha emprestado esse modem a um amigo, e provavelmente a maquina dele estava com virus... esse virus se alojou na memoria do modem (aquele onde fica o programa instalador do modem para windows) e de algum modo danificou o mesmo... ai não funcionava mais nem em windows e nem no ubuntu... Parece brincadeira né... Abraços e bom final de semana a todos -- Daniel Alves Gerente de Compras (67) 3383-3311 (67) 9277-0081 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br eu tb achei estranho, mas como o modem nao conectava de maneira alguma, (tentei em tres maquinas ubuntu) tive que dar credito a claro e enviar pra eles... -- Daniel Alves Gerente de Compras (67) 3383-3311 (67) 9277-0081 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com GeForce 7100 - nvidia 630
Boa Tarde Pessoal sou novato no Linux e não sei como instalar uma placa Geforce 7100 nvidia 630 no Ubuntu 9. Onde consigo abaixar esse drive? Como faço para instala-lo? Obrigado. _ Deixe suas conversas mais divertidas. Baixe agora mesmo novos emoticons. É grátis! http://specials.br.msn.com/ilovemessenger/pacotes.aspx -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com GeForce 7100 - nvidia 630
Ola Wladimir, verifique em: *Sistema Administração Drives de hardware* 2009/7/11 Wladimir Costa cwl...@hotmail.com Boa Tarde Pessoal sou novato no Linux e não sei como instalar uma placa Geforce 7100 nvidia 630 no Ubuntu 9. Onde consigo abaixar esse drive? Como faço para instala-lo? Obrigado. _ Deixe suas conversas mais divertidas. Baixe agora mesmo novos emoticons. É grátis! http://specials.br.msn.com/ilovemessenger/pacotes.aspx -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Como alterar ponto de montagem de ipod
Olá, companheiros! Ganehi um iPod Shuffle de presente e quem mo deu fez-me o favor de prepará-lo todo para mim, formatando, atualizando o firmware, etc. Acontece que, quando eu o conecto, aparece desse jeito: http://yfrog.com/5fcapturadetela1lp Como eu faço para ele mostrar algo mais amigável, como iPod, ao invés desse bisonho IPOD DE JO_ ? Obrigado! João Santana -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] OCS
Olá a todos, Uso o Ocs para fazer o inventário de hardware da empresa que trabalho, ele esta funcionando sem problemas, a única informação que não esta sendo apresentada no inventário é o número de série dos monitores, procurei no google informações de como obter isso porém não encontrei nada, sei que é possível pois já vi isto no inventário de uma outra empresa que usa o OCS. Gostaria de saber se alguém sabe como fazer isso, desde já agradeço qualquer ajuda. Atenciosamente, Washington -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] OCS
tem o ocomoon que é muito bom... http://ocomonphp.sourceforge.net/ ele é usado pela complexx tecnologia www.complexx.com.br empresa que faz todo o help desk e atendimento do seduc .. iventario , abertura de chamados... muito bom. 2009/7/11 Washington Alves wae...@gmail.com Olá a todos, Uso o Ocs para fazer o inventário de hardware da empresa que trabalho, ele esta funcionando sem problemas, a única informação que não esta sendo apresentada no inventário é o número de série dos monitores, procurei no google informações de como obter isso porém não encontrei nada, sei que é possível pois já vi isto no inventário de uma outra empresa que usa o OCS. Gostaria de saber se alguém sabe como fazer isso, desde já agradeço qualquer ajuda. Atenciosamente, Washington -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] OCS
Washington aqui ele pega as seguintes informações do monitor Fabricante Nome Fabricado em (semana/ano) Tipo N. de série Hewlett Packard HP L1506 HWP.265B.01010101 (10/2006) RGB color CNC610173M OBS O server está rodando em Windows... Ocomon não faz captura de dados por invetárioaté onde eu saiba. Olá a todos, Uso o Ocs para fazer o inventário de hardware da empresa que trabalho, ele esta funcionando sem problemas, a única informação que não esta sendo apresentada no inventário é o número de série dos monitores, procurei no google informações de como obter isso porém não encontrei nada, sei que é possível pois já vi isto no inventário de uma outra empresa que usa o OCS. Gostaria de saber se alguém sabe como fazer isso, desde já agradeço qualquer ajuda. Atenciosamente, Washington -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- []'s Alex PH City - SC. User Linux # 225201. Skype aleximandro.cella MSN/GTalk aleximan...@gmail.com -- Quem intentará acusação contra os escolhidos de Deus? É Deus quem os justifica.Romanos 8:33 -- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Rechtsvorm van Ubuntu-be / Legal information about Ubuntu-be - sorry but only in dutch
Het probleem is een al vaker terugkerend onderwerp: er is niemand die de leiding heeft en dus weten we niet bij wie we dingen moeten vragen. Ik snap daarom de stap naar een vzw. Niet nodig, maar met de juiste bedoelingen. Misschien wordt het tijd om eens een meeting te hebben hierover en alle enthousiastelingen die zin hebben om in het beheer te stappen hun ding te laten doen. Iemand die de financieën bijhoudt, iemand die hoofdverantwoordelijk is voor de events, iemand voor de stenupunten en contacten, iemand voor de pers, iemand voor de site, ... Als we iets willen organiseren en we weten niet bij wie we moeten langsgaan daarvoor, dan is dat een teken dat we niet goed bezig zijn op dit vlak. Akkoord, er is een lijst, maar hoe ontmoedigend is het niet als je bijna niemand van die lijst ook effectief ziet of hoort? Er moet dringend iets veranderen, want zo loopt alles in het honderd. Matthew -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Namens Jan Claeys Verzonden: zaterdag 11 juli 2009 2:33 Aan: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Rechtsvorm van Ubuntu-be / Legal information about Ubuntu-be - sorry but only in dutch Op zaterdag 11-07-2009 om 00:39 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Steven De Baets: Als ik het goed versta is Ubuntu-be een feitelijke vereniging en geen VZW. Klopt In het Belgisch recht heeft de feitelijke vereniging geen juridische grond en kan omschreven worden als een clubje van enkele mensen die samen een idee en/of een doel voor ogen hebben. Doordat de feitelijke vereniging geen juridische grond heeft, zijn er ook geen vormvereisten, maar belangrijker is de aansprakelijkheid van de oprichters en de leden. Enkel de oprichters beheren de vereniging. Dat klopt niet helemaal: de vereniging wordt beheerd door wie er op dat moment de vereniging bestuurt, maar aangezien dat nergens officieel vastgelegd is, is dat niet altijd helemaal duidelijk. (Wat belangrijke gevolgen kan hebben voor de bewijslast.) De oprichters EN de leden zijn persoonlijk en onbeperkt hoofdelijk aansprakelijk. Een feitelijke vereniging bestaat enkel door haar oprichters en door de inbreng van de oprichters. Ze kan ook geen verbintenissen aangaan, en geen schenkingen aanvaarden. Schenkingen aanvaarden kan wel, in de zin van geld of goederen aanvaarden, maar daar bestaan geen officiële documenten (facturen etc.) van, dus voor de schenker is het niet altijd even interessant. Dit lijkt mij op lange termijn onhoudbaar als men iets wil aanpakken en het laten uitgroeien tot een volwaardige vereniging. De betere verenigingsvorm is de VZW, die wel degelijk rechtspersoonlijkheid heeft en waar de leden niet aansprakelijk zijn voor eventuele schulden van de vereniging (behoudens fraude). Dat is natuurlijk enkel relevant in het geval men schulden maakt. Als we (als ubuntu-be) ooit iets willen organiseren waarbij we een verbintenis aangaan om meer te betalen dan we in kas hebben, dan is het zeker nodig om een vzw o.i.d. op te richten (of om de organisatie officieel onder een bestaande andere vzw te laten vallen en die dus officieel niet zelf te organiseren). Er is ook nog de VSO (vereniging met sociaal oogmerk), die ook niet de bedoeling heeft winst te maken, maar een sociaal doel heeft. Hier weet ik weliswaar niets van qua vormvereisten en dergelijke, en ook niet als we kunnen vallen onder de noemer sociaal doel (- gratis besturingssysteem voor iedereen). Ook de VSO heeft een rechtspersoonlijkheid. Ken ik ook niet echt iets van. De VZW heeft dan wel een boekhouding, maar die is zeer beperkt en zeer eenvoudig bij te houden, dus qua kost is dit ook niks, daar kan gerust door iemand kosteloos voor gezorgd worden (secretariaat/penningmeester). En juridisch en structureel sta je veel sterker met onder meer een raad van beheer en een eenvoudige boekhouding. Dit is nu niet echt hoogdringend, maar ik denk dat er naar de toekomst toe toch moet aan gedacht worden... Als men wil gaan groeien , gaat men ook financieel het hoofd boven water moeten houden, dus gaat men ook moeten inkomsten genereren om te kunnen uitgeven aan promotie van Ubuntu. Inkomsten zijn momenteel niet echt het grootste probleem... ;-) Een oplossing voor het individuele risico is trouwens dat we risicovolle activiteiten onder de paraplu van een andere vzw organiseren (in sommige landen gebeurt dat via een nationale open source of unix users vzw). -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Rechtsvorm van Ubuntu-be / Legal information about Ubuntu-be - sorry but only in dutch
Op zaterdag 11-07-2009 om 14:06 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Matthew Deboysere: Het probleem is een al vaker terugkerend onderwerp: er is niemand die de leiding heeft en dus weten we niet bij wie we dingen moeten vragen. People can always ask questions here, that's exactly what the list is for. Ik snap daarom de stap naar een vzw. A vzw won't fix the problems you point out, actually, it would only complicate things. Misschien wordt het tijd om eens een meeting te hebben hierover en alle enthousiastelingen die zin hebben om in het beheer te stappen hun ding te laten doen. Iemand die de financieën bijhoudt, iemand die hoofdverantwoordelijk is voor de events, iemand voor de stenupunten en contacten, iemand voor de pers, iemand voor de site, ... You can already find a list of who is responsible for what on the wiki (even if it's not always up-to-date, but that's one reason why it's often best to ask on the list if you have questions). BTW: yesterday Jean proposed to create a couple of thematic workgroups, and a council of people who can make decisions if needed. That might help somewhat (although there already are some de-facto / ad-hoc workgroups now, and I don't really get what giving those an official name will change, but maybe that's just me). -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Proposal for printing new posters for Ubuntu-be - about log-in screen
Jow, ik ben ook nog wachtende op het resultaat van deze poster/affiche Het feit dat we de concurrentie zouden gebruiken om Ubuntu in een beter daglicht te plaatsen vind ik niet zo een goed idee ik denk niet dat we populair zouden geraken door anderen af te breken (tegendeel) Het is goed dat Linux (en zeker Ubuntu) publiciteit zal krijgen door verspreiding van folders, affiches enz (Daar werk ik graag aan mee) Het idee van werkgroepen te vormen sta ik ook achter (eventueel een voting systeem) Mario, -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Rechtsvorm van Ubuntu-be / Legal information about Ubuntu-be - sorry but only in dutch
Ik heb nergens vermeld dat ik een voorstander ben van een vzw. Het enige verschil is dat er een 'verplicht' beheer moet zijn in een vzw dat er niet moet zijn bij een FV. En daar loopt het fout. Een beetje structuur kan geen kwaad. Die lijst ken ik, maar 3/4 van de mensen daarop ken ik niet, hoor ik niet en doen anderen hun taken. Een vzw hoeft daarom niet, maar een verandering in structuur doet zeker niets fout. Integendeel. Het idee van Jean om 'teams' op te richten die verantwoordelijk zijn voor bepaalde onderdelen vind ik een uitstekend idee en ik vind dat we daar zeker iets mee moeten doen. Matthew -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Namens Jan Claeys Verzonden: zaterdag 11 juli 2009 19:49 Aan: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Rechtsvorm van Ubuntu-be / Legal information about Ubuntu-be - sorry but only in dutch Op zaterdag 11-07-2009 om 14:06 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Matthew Deboysere: Het probleem is een al vaker terugkerend onderwerp: er is niemand die de leiding heeft en dus weten we niet bij wie we dingen moeten vragen. People can always ask questions here, that's exactly what the list is for. Ik snap daarom de stap naar een vzw. A vzw won't fix the problems you point out, actually, it would only complicate things. Misschien wordt het tijd om eens een meeting te hebben hierover en alle enthousiastelingen die zin hebben om in het beheer te stappen hun ding te laten doen. Iemand die de financieën bijhoudt, iemand die hoofdverantwoordelijk is voor de events, iemand voor de stenupunten en contacten, iemand voor de pers, iemand voor de site, ... You can already find a list of who is responsible for what on the wiki (even if it's not always up-to-date, but that's one reason why it's often best to ask on the list if you have questions). BTW: yesterday Jean proposed to create a couple of thematic workgroups, and a council of people who can make decisions if needed. That might help somewhat (although there already are some de-facto / ad-hoc workgroups now, and I don't really get what giving those an official name will change, but maybe that's just me). -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Hi to all, As introduction, a few words from Steven's mail: "If someone has time to spare during the holidays, they can always read the following. It is a bit of a long term idea, and it might be something interesting to keep in mind." Related to the last mails, a few considerations as contribution. First I think that a lot Ubuntu LoCo Teams are facing the organization problem. The readers of the Ubuntu-be mailing list are a wide community (+/- 400) and the Belgian LoCo Team (125) is only a part of the mailing list. On 04/07, answering to the question "Who is now in charge of our loco team?", Jan wrote "Nobody is "in charge" really". The existing Wiki BelgianTeam/Responsibility page is not updated with a few exceptions: the official point of contact of the team, administrators of website, mailing list and IRC, owners of the Belgian LoCo Team (in Launchpad) and bank account (money). As result, nobody is competent for taking action when necessary, outside the technical problems. Example, since 2 months the problem of new posters and flyers is a topic in the mailing list and we are still debating again and again about all aspects of the project, with no decision. This topic should have been be worked on by a marketing team, presented to the LoCo Team members and adopted by a leading group mandated to take action (including money). The effectiveness and the future of the Be LoCo Team needs a clear organization and structure in support of the volunteers: it can not be based on a mailing list or individuals, but on team-work. An informal organization willing to be active can not work for the long time. Another aspect is the legal issue (statute) of the Be LoCo Team: to be recognize as a credible interlocutor in contacts with institutions (city services, ...), enterprises (looking for sponsoring, ...) and medias (presenting the association, ...), we additionally need a recognized legal statute, more than a de facto association, a club of friends promoting Ubuntu. We should start with a thinking-group (with a small group of interested persons) on this issues. Coordinated proposals could be later posted in the mailing list for evaluation by the LoCo Team members and finally an "in real life" meeting should be organized for decision making. This is a long term process and I don't expect results within weeks. The first step should be to identify people interested in thinking on these issues: feel free to postulate for the thinking-group ! -- Jean Ubuntu Belgium Events Team -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Jean, op 11 juli, de Vlaamse nationale feestdag, reageer ik even in het Nederlands. Ik volg de mailinglijsten nu al een tijdje, en enkele dingen storen mij geweldig: 1. Het consequente gebruik van het Engels. Dit is België, en hier zijn 3 officiële landstalen: Nederlands, Frans en Duits. Het gebruik van het Engels is dan ook compleet belachelijk, temeer daar een grote meerderheid niet eens deftig Engels kan schrijven (ja, ik ben een taalpurist). Ben je niet tweetalig? Of zitten er mensen op de lijst die niet tweetalig zijn? Begrijpelijk, maar dat brengt me meteen bij punt 2. 2. Ubuntu-be: waarom niet opsplitsen in een Ubuntu-vla en een Ubuntu-wal (bijvoorbeeld). Zo het sowieso veel makkelijker maken, aangezien Vlaanderen en Wallonië (o.a.) qua bedrijfscultuur totaal verschillend zijn (ik heb in beide landsdelen gewerkt). 3. Een totaal gebrek aan leiderschap dat inderdaad leidt tot maandenlange discussies over non-issues. Hoog tijd om een volwaardig bestuur aan te stellen. 4. Versnippering van informatie: een oud zeer waar nodig aan gewerkt moet worden. Soit, ik wil dus gerust (al dan niet fysiek) meedenken over een aantal zaken. Et pour mes amis francophones: j'aime la Wallonie, mais je suis Flamand, donc je parle le néerlandais! Gegroet, Martijn On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42 PM, jean7491 jean7...@free.fr wrote: Hi to all, As introduction, a few words from Steven's mail: If someone has time to spare during the holidays, they can always read the following. It is a bit of a long term idea, and it might be something interesting to keep in mind. Related to the last mails, a few considerations as contribution. First I think that a lot Ubuntu LoCo Teams are facing the organization problem. The readers of the Ubuntu-be mailing list are a wide community (+/- 400) and the Belgian LoCo Team (125) is only a part of the mailing list. On 04/07, answering to the question Who is now in charge of our loco team?, Jan wrote Nobody is in charge really. The existing Wiki BelgianTeam/Responsibility page is not updated with a few exceptions: the official point of contact of the team, administrators of website, mailing list and IRC, owners of the Belgian LoCo Team (in Launchpad) and bank account (money). As result, nobody is competent for taking action when necessary, outside the technical problems. Example, since 2 months the problem of new posters and flyers is a topic in the mailing list and we are still debating again and again about all aspects of the project, with no decision. This topic should have been be worked on by a marketing team, presented to the LoCo Team members and adopted by a leading group mandated to take action (including money). The effectiveness and the future of the Be LoCo Team needs a clear organization and structure in support of the volunteers: it can not be based on a mailing list or individuals, but on team-work. An informal organization willing to be active can not work for the long time. Another aspect is the legal issue (statute) of the Be LoCo Team: to be recognize as a credible interlocutor in contacts with institutions (city services, ...), enterprises (looking for sponsoring, ...) and medias (presenting the association, ...), we additionally need a recognized legal statute, more than a de facto association, a club of friends promoting Ubuntu. We should start with a thinking-group (with a small group of interested persons) on this issues. Coordinated proposals could be later posted in the mailing list for evaluation by the LoCo Team members and finally an in real life meeting should be organized for decision making. This is a long term process and I don't expect results within weeks. The first step should be to identify people interested in thinking on these issues: feel free to postulate for the thinking-group ! -- Jean *Ubuntu Belgium Events Team* -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Jean, op 11 juli, de Vlaamse nationale feestdag, reageer ik even in het Nederlands. Ik volg de mailinglijsten nu al een tijdje, en enkele dingen storen mij geweldig: 1. Het consequente gebruik van het Engels. Dit is België, en hier zijn 3 officiële landstalen: Nederlands, Frans en Duits. Het gebruik van het Engels is dan ook compleet belachelijk, temeer daar een grote meerderheid niet eens deftig Engels kan schrijven (ja, ik ben een taalpurist). Ben je niet tweetalig? Of zitten er mensen op de lijst die niet tweetalig zijn? Begrijpelijk, maar dat brengt me meteen bij punt 2. Matthew: Communicatie moet vlot verlopen en telkens alles vertalen of anderen buitensluiten helpt nu eenmaal niet. 2. Ubuntu-be: waarom niet opsplitsen in een Ubuntu-vla en een Ubuntu-wal (bijvoorbeeld). Zo het sowieso veel makkelijker maken, aangezien Vlaanderen en Wallonië (o.a.) qua bedrijfscultuur totaal verschillend zijn (ik heb in beide landsdelen gewerkt). Matthew: Wat doe je met Brussel? Wat met de Duitstaligen? 3. Een totaal gebrek aan leiderschap dat inderdaad leidt tot maandenlange discussies over non-issues. Hoog tijd om een volwaardig bestuur aan te stellen. Matthew: Eens 4. Versnippering van informatie: een oud zeer waar nodig aan gewerkt moet worden. Matthew: Ook eens Soit, ik wil dus gerust (al dan niet fysiek) meedenken over een aantal zaken. Et pour mes amis francophones: j'aime la Wallonie, mais je suis Flamand, donc je parle le néerlandais! Gegroet, Martijn On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42 PM, jean7491 jean7...@free.fr wrote: Hi to all, As introduction, a few words from Steven's mail: If someone has time to spare during the holidays, they can always read the following. It is a bit of a long term idea, and it might be something interesting to keep in mind. Related to the last mails, a few considerations as contribution. First I think that a lot Ubuntu LoCo Teams are facing the organization problem. The readers of the Ubuntu-be mailing list are a wide community (+/- 400) and the Belgian LoCo Team (125) is only a part of the mailing list. On 04/07, answering to the question Who is now in charge of our loco team?, Jan wrote Nobody is in charge really. The existing Wiki BelgianTeam/Responsibility page is not updated with a few exceptions: the official point of contact of the team, administrators of website, mailing list and IRC, owners of the Belgian LoCo Team (in Launchpad) and bank account (money). As result, nobody is competent for taking action when necessary, outside the technical problems. Example, since 2 months the problem of new posters and flyers is a topic in the mailing list and we are still debating again and again about all aspects of the project, with no decision. This topic should have been be worked on by a marketing team, presented to the LoCo Team members and adopted by a leading group mandated to take action (including money). The effectiveness and the future of the Be LoCo Team needs a clear organization and structure in support of the volunteers: it can not be based on a mailing list or individuals, but on team-work. An informal organization willing to be active can not work for the long time. Another aspect is the legal issue (statute) of the Be LoCo Team: to be recognize as a credible interlocutor in contacts with institutions (city services, ...), enterprises (looking for sponsoring, ...) and medias (presenting the association, ...), we additionally need a recognized legal statute, more than a de facto association, a club of friends promoting Ubuntu. We should start with a thinking-group (with a small group of interested persons) on this issues. Coordinated proposals could be later posted in the mailing list for evaluation by the LoCo Team members and finally an in real life meeting should be organized for decision making. This is a long term process and I don't expect results within weeks. The first step should be to identify people interested in thinking on these issues: feel free to postulate for the thinking-group ! -- Jean Fout! Bestandsnaam niet opgegeven.Ubuntu Belgium Events Team -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Matthew Deboysere matt...@next-games.nlwrote: Jean, op 11 juli, de Vlaamse nationale feestdag, reageer ik even in het Nederlands. Ik volg de mailinglijsten nu al een tijdje, en enkele dingen storen mij geweldig: 1. Het consequente gebruik van het Engels. Dit is België, en hier zijn 3 officiële landstalen: Nederlands, Frans en Duits. Het gebruik van het Engels is dan ook compleet belachelijk, temeer daar een grote meerderheid niet eens deftig Engels kan schrijven (ja, ik ben een taalpurist). Ben je niet tweetalig? Of zitten er mensen op de lijst die niet tweetalig zijn? Begrijpelijk, maar dat brengt me meteen bij punt 2. *Matthew: Communicatie moet vlot verlopen en telkens alles vertalen of anderen buitensluiten helpt nu eenmaal niet.* Martijn: zie punt 2 2. Ubuntu-be: waarom niet opsplitsen in een Ubuntu-vla en een Ubuntu-wal (bijvoorbeeld). Zo het sowieso veel makkelijker maken, aangezien Vlaanderen en Wallonië (o.a.) qua bedrijfscultuur totaal verschillend zijn (ik heb in beide landsdelen gewerkt). *Matthew: Wat doe je met Brussel? Wat met de Duitstaligen?* Martijn: Nederlandstaligen bij Ubuntu-vla, Franstaligen bij Ubuntu-wal. Duitstaligen kunnen evtl Ubuntu-osk (oostkantons) oprichten 3. Een totaal gebrek aan leiderschap dat inderdaad leidt tot maandenlange discussies over non-issues. Hoog tijd om een volwaardig bestuur aan te stellen. *Matthew: Eens* 4. Versnippering van informatie: een oud zeer waar nodig aan gewerkt moet worden. *Matthew: Ook eens* Soit, ik wil dus gerust (al dan niet fysiek) meedenken over een aantal zaken. Et pour mes amis francophones: j'aime la Wallonie, mais je suis Flamand, donc je parle le néerlandais! Gegroet, Martijn** On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42 PM, jean7491 jean7...@free.fr wrote: Hi to all, As introduction, a few words from Steven's mail: If someone has time to spare during the holidays, they can always read the following. It is a bit of a long term idea, and it might be something interesting to keep in mind. Related to the last mails, a few considerations as contribution. First I think that a lot Ubuntu LoCo Teams are facing the organization problem. The readers of the Ubuntu-be mailing list are a wide community (+/- 400) and the Belgian LoCo Team (125) is only a part of the mailing list. On 04/07, answering to the question Who is now in charge of our loco team?, Jan wrote Nobody is in charge really. The existing Wiki BelgianTeam/Responsibility page is not updated with a few exceptions: the official point of contact of the team, administrators of website, mailing list and IRC, owners of the Belgian LoCo Team (in Launchpad) and bank account (money). As result, nobody is competent for taking action when necessary, outside the technical problems. Example, since 2 months the problem of new posters and flyers is a topic in the mailing list and we are still debating again and again about all aspects of the project, with no decision. This topic should have been be worked on by a marketing team, presented to the LoCo Team members and adopted by a leading group mandated to take action (including money). The effectiveness and the future of the Be LoCo Team needs a clear organization and structure in support of the volunteers: it can not be based on a mailing list or individuals, but on team-work. An informal organization willing to be active can not work for the long time. Another aspect is the legal issue (statute) of the Be LoCo Team: to be recognize as a credible interlocutor in contacts with institutions (city services, ...), enterprises (looking for sponsoring, ...) and medias (presenting the association, ...), we additionally need a recognized legal statute, more than a de facto association, a club of friends promoting Ubuntu. We should start with a thinking-group (with a small group of interested persons) on this issues. Coordinated proposals could be later posted in the mailing list for evaluation by the LoCo Team members and finally an in real life meeting should be organized for decision making. This is a long term process and I don't expect results within weeks. The first step should be to identify people interested in thinking on these issues: feel free to postulate for the thinking-group ! -- Jean *Fout! Bestandsnaam niet opgegeven.**Ubuntu Belgium Events Team* -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Rechtsvorm van Ubuntu-be / Legal information about Ubuntu-be - sorry but only in dutch
Op zaterdag 11-07-2009 om 21:07 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Matthew Deboysere: Ik heb nergens vermeld dat ik een voorstander ben van een vzw. Het enige verschil is dat er een 'verplicht' beheer moet zijn in een vzw dat er niet moet zijn bij een FV. The only mandatory management in a vzw is about the legal obligations, it won't change much in the day-to-day management necessarily. En daar loopt het fout. Een beetje structuur kan geen kwaad. Die lijst ken ik, maar 3/4 van de mensen daarop ken ik niet, hoor ik niet en doen anderen hun taken. Een vzw hoeft daarom niet, maar een verandering in structuur doet zeker niets fout. Integendeel. Like I said, the wiki might be outdated... ;) If needed we can change that page; we just need other people to stand up and say they want to take over a responsibility. Het idee van Jean om 'teams' op te richten die verantwoordelijk zijn voor bepaalde onderdelen vind ik een uitstekend idee en ik vind dat we daar zeker iets mee moeten doen. But, officially such responsible people already exist (see that wiki page); how will you guarantee the new responsibles will be (- easy) and remain (- not so easy) better available? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Ik volg de boel hier al een tijdje en wat me opvalt is dat, niettegenstaande de door jou genoemde verschillen in 'bedrijfscultuur' ik weinig verschil lees in dat wat Walen, Brusselaars en Vlamingen hier op de lijst aanbrengen. Dus dat 'verschil' op deze lijst en rond Ubuntu is een non-issue. Het gebruik van het Engels als bindmiddel is gegroeid omdat dat de enige manier is om over de gewestgrenzen heen te communiceren en we allemaal hier toegeven dat de meeste hier hun 2de landstaal niet goed beheersen. In mijn geval is het zelfs erger dan dat... Maar om nu te zeggen dat Engels alleen kan als we die taal Shakesperiaans nauwkeurig beheersen is eigenlijk een argument om een regionalistische agenda door te drukken. En dat doe je voor mijn part maar ergens anders. Tis vakantie, verschillende mensen zijn nu op vakantie en ik denk niet dat we nu even snel een kleine staatsgreep moeten organiseren of tollereren. Als je graag even VLubuntu wil introduceren, probeer dat dan even in Zuid-Afrika verkocht te krijgen. Succes... Waar je wel gelijk in hebt is dat we met zn 400 hier moeilijker communiceren als met 40 mensen. En als dat hier blijft groeien naar 600 of 1000 dan zal dat zeker niet vlotter verlopen. Het totaal gebrek aan leiderschap is een ander probleem. Dat daar structuren rond te bedenken zijn kan ik me voorstellen. Het is al knap als je als 25ste het probleem kan benoemen, maar leuker is dat je een mogelijke oplossing suggereert. Hier is de mijne: Een piste is dat er regionaal (vl-br-wal) of provinciaal mensen zich als loco team organiseren en er van daaruit iets overkoepelend groeit. Ok, dat wordt iets formeler handelen en ik wil nog zien hoe we kandidaten vinden die vrije tijd over hebben. Doe een suggestie als je een betere oplossing kan bedenken. Maar even regionaliseren omdat we niet perfect Engels schrijven en nog minder perfect Frans of Duits daar pas ik in eerste instantie voor... Voor de versnippering van informatie zouden we misschien kunnen denken om ubuntu-be.org wat aandacht te besteden aan een wiki oid. Mijn 2 cent mening... patje martijn cielen schreef: Jean, op 11 juli, de Vlaamse nationale feestdag, reageer ik even in het Nederlands. Ik volg de mailinglijsten nu al een tijdje, en enkele dingen storen mij geweldig: 1. Het consequente gebruik van het Engels. Dit is België, en hier zijn 3 officiële landstalen: Nederlands, Frans en Duits. Het gebruik van het Engels is dan ook compleet belachelijk, temeer daar een grote meerderheid niet eens deftig Engels kan schrijven (ja, ik ben een taalpurist). Ben je niet tweetalig? Of zitten er mensen op de lijst die niet tweetalig zijn? Begrijpelijk, maar dat brengt me meteen bij punt 2. 2. Ubuntu-be: waarom niet opsplitsen in een Ubuntu-vla en een Ubuntu-wal (bijvoorbeeld). Zo het sowieso veel makkelijker maken, aangezien Vlaanderen en Wallonië (o.a.) qua bedrijfscultuur totaal verschillend zijn (ik heb in beide landsdelen gewerkt). 3. Een totaal gebrek aan leiderschap dat inderdaad leidt tot maandenlange discussies over non-issues. Hoog tijd om een volwaardig bestuur aan te stellen. 4. Versnippering van informatie: een oud zeer waar nodig aan gewerkt moet worden. Soit, ik wil dus gerust (al dan niet fysiek) meedenken over een aantal zaken. Et pour mes amis francophones: j'aime la Wallonie, mais je suis Flamand, donc je parle le néerlandais! Gegroet, Martijn -- Patrick Coeman 171dotBE, ICT consulting beveiliging. Debian GNU Linux, Ubuntu Linux, FreeBSD, Desktop-BSD, PC-BSD, Microsoft windows en SBS-server. Linux FreeBSD Hosting Richardstraat 36, 2060 Antwerpen BE T:03 8777998, F:03 2264402, GSM: 0476 959505 i...@171.be www.171.be BTW: BE-0868.969.748 - OndNr: 868969748 -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Op zaterdag 11-07-2009 om 23:23 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef martijn cielen: 1. Het consequente gebruik van het Engels. Dit is België, en hier zijn 3 officiële landstalen: Nederlands, Frans en Duits. Het gebruik van het Engels is dan ook compleet belachelijk, temeer daar een grote meerderheid niet eens deftig Engels kan schrijven (ja, ik ben een taalpurist). Ben je niet tweetalig? Of zitten er mensen op de lijst die niet tweetalig zijn? Begrijpelijk, maar dat brengt me meteen bij punt 2. There are many people who are bilingual mother-tongue/English, which is exactly why we initially stated that we prefer English on this list. It's also no crime to make grammar/spelling errors (just try to make sure most people understand). Except for 1 or 2 people on the list, English is not their native tongue. And it's no crime to write in Dutch/French/German if you don't feel comfortable to write in English (even if it's appreciated if you do). 2. Ubuntu-be: waarom niet opsplitsen in een Ubuntu-vla en een Ubuntu-wal (bijvoorbeeld). Zo het sowieso veel makkelijker maken, aangezien Vlaanderen en Wallonië (o.a.) qua bedrijfscultuur totaal verschillend zijn (ik heb in beide landsdelen gewerkt). I know have worked with people from several parts of Belgium (and outside of Belgium), and I don't see that many differences? Can you please explain? Also, considering that we barely have enough volunteers now, how do you expect us to have enough volunteers if we split up in 4 or more different groups? To give one point-of-reference: Jean, who's been coordinating most of the computer fair booths recently, is French-speaking natively, but living in Flanders (and he speaks Dutch very well!). Why would we want him to limit his work to Flanders, and not Wallonia or Brussels? 3. Een totaal gebrek aan leiderschap dat inderdaad leidt tot maandenlange discussies over non-issues. Hoog tijd om een volwaardig bestuur aan te stellen. Do you have any proof that that will make things better? ;) BTW: I don't oppose establishing a council or something like that (I can see some advantages to it), just that I'm not convinced that that is the magic solution for all the perceived problems. 4. Versnippering van informatie: een oud zeer waar nodig aan gewerkt moet worden. What exactly do you mean by that? Information is certainly lacking in some areas, but what do you mean by versnippering here? PS: I'm happy to see any responses, reactions, critiques, etc. to this thread! -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Hallo iedereen, (om 11 juli te vieren ook in het Nederlands :-) ) Ik heb het startschot gegeven, daarna mij een beetje afzijdig gehouden, heb alles gevolgd en zie dat er hier opeens ongelooflijk veel beweging in komt, hetgeen ik enkel maar kan toejuichen. Hetgeen ik uit de vorige berichten distilleer is dit: 1. Als er over de vereniging gesproken wordt, ontstaat er opeens wel een dialoog. 2. Er is overduidelijk een roep naar meer structuur. Dat het nu in het honderd loopt kunnen velen beamen. 3. Er zijn wel degelijk een aantal personen die het niet plezant vinden dat er heel veel gepalaverd wordt over het nemen van eenvoudige beslissingen. Ja, er zijn posters en flyers nodig, maar door de structuur van de organisatie is het heel moeilijk om een beslissing te nemen en tussen de lijnen door gelezen is er ook niemand die de beslissing zelfs kan nemen. Er zullen altijd voor- en tegenstanders zijn, het is dan ook een vereniging en geen one-man show, maar beslissingen zullen moeten genomen worden. 4. Ik merk ook een roep naar het opsplitsen van de Belgische Loco naar een Vlaamse en een Waalse. Ook hier denk ik dat er op lange termijn geen andere mogelijkheid is. Anders gaan we volgens mij ook discussies krijgen zoals in de politiek tussen het federale en de gewesten, haha. Matthew en Martijn: punten 1,2,3 en 4: JA! (Naam Vlaamse kant: FL-Ubuntu (in tijden van Mexicaanse griep kan dit tellen) of Ubuntu-FL (spreek uit: oeboentoeffel) haha, nee is een grapje tussendoor, even serieus weer nu...) 5. Het Team-idee van Jean wordt ook gesmaakt. Ook hier voorstanders... Hoewel ik denk dat je eerst een basis moet hebben en dan pas over teams kan beginnen spreken, maar als voorlopige maatregel zeker te overwegen! De teams kunnen ook later onder een overkoepelende structuur gehuisvest worden. Kortom: er is beweging. Wat mezelf betreft, wil ik een bijdrage leveren aan een bepaalde toekomst in een goed gestructureerde organisatie. De markt is redelijk groot en ik denk nog steeds dat er een toekomst is weggelegd voor goed een alternatief tegenover Windows en Mac. Om dat alternatief de naambekendheid en de gebruikersbasis te geven die het verdient, zal een goede organisatie nodig zijn, dat op termijn kan groeien tot een goed geoliede machine qua marketing en ondersteuning. Het doel definieren is eenvoudig. Het doel bereiken, zal niet in één dagje gebeuren, er zal jaren werk aan zijn. Steven. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Op zondag 12-07-2009 om 01:10 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Steven De Baets: 4. Ik merk ook een roep naar het opsplitsen van de Belgische Loco naar een Vlaamse en een Waalse. Yeah, splitting up from 7 people into groups of 4, 1, 1 1 active people is really useful (*NOT* !!!). Please everybody, contribute first, then (maybe) if a part of the community gets large enough to be sustainable on its own we can talk about splitting it out into a subdivision. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)
Ik ben steeds bereid een degelijke bijdrage te leveren in een goed georganiseerd team dat: 1. zijn afkomst (zij het Vlaams/Waals/Zulu) niet verloochent, en dus ook zijn moedertaal spreekt. Als er dan toch een universele taal moet gesproken worden, kunnen we nog beter met zijn allen Esperanto leren. En ter info: ik ben niet bang om Engels te spreken of te schrijven, ik durf zelfs zeggen dat mijn Engels beter is dan dat van 90% van de lijst-gebruikers. Ik vind gewoon dat het Nederlands en het Frans niet moeten wijken voor het Engels. We hebben in Vlaanderen verdomme hard genoeg moeten vechten om Nederlands te kunnen spreken! 2. Een degelijke structuur heeft, en bereid is op professionele manier te werk te gaan. Ik heb te veel tijd verdaan in amateuristisch georganiseerde feitelijke vernenigingen. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be wrote: Op zondag 12-07-2009 om 01:10 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Steven De Baets: 4. Ik merk ook een roep naar het opsplitsen van de Belgische Loco naar een Vlaamse en een Waalse. Yeah, splitting up from 7 people into groups of 4, 1, 1 1 active people is really useful (*NOT* !!!). Please everybody, contribute first, then (maybe) if a part of the community gets large enough to be sustainable on its own we can talk about splitting it out into a subdivision. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: DVDStyler - добавление видеофп йлов в проект
10 июля 2009 г. 22:28 пользователь Александр Загорнов crusade...@gmail.comнаписал: Всем доброго времени суток. Усть одна проблема: операцтонка - Kubuntu 9.04 (KDE 4.2.2) Установлен DVDStyler для создания и записи DVD-проектов. При дбавлении видеофайлов в проект (точно так, как и написано в руководстве по DVDStyler), пишет, что НЕИЗВЕСТНЫЙ ФОРМАТ ФАЙЛОВ!!! Какой же тогда формат файлов ему известен или как решить данную проблему для успешной работы с обозначенной прогой??? -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru Про программу DVDStyler не могу ни чего сказать. Пользуюсь программой ManDVD с сайта http://www.getdeb.net/. Правда при установке программы придётся доустановить около 10 пакетов. Программа работает без замечаний, интерфейс на английском. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Курсор мыши в Firefox
Друзья мои, я опечален © Ubuntu 9.04, стоит тема курсоров Oxygen, во всех приложениях курсор oxygen, но не в Firefox. Он считает себя особеннывм и основной курсор, а также курсор в форме руки меняет на стандартные убунтушные Human. Курсор занятости же вполне себе oxygen. Запуск в safe mode ситуацию не улучшил, т.е. расширения тут явно не причём. Как бы мне привести Firefox к консистентному виду? -- jabber://ace...@jabber.ru http://www.aceler.ru/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: DVDStyler - добавление ви деофпйлов в проект
Анатолий Валерьевич пишет: Про программу DVDStyler не могу ни чего сказать. Пользуюсь программой ManDVD с сайта http://www.getdeb.net/. Правда при установке программы придётся доустановить около 10 пакетов. Программа работает без замечаний, интерфейс на английском. К этой программе у меня два замечания: 1) На звуке периодически возникают артефакты в виде неприятных скрипов 2) Она не может создать слайдшоу из фоток - вылетает с ошибкой. -- [Team] Злой Сисоп [Team] Kalabaha [Team] Lexx The Ubuntu Counter Project - user number # 17409 ICQ: 170701066 Skype: yura257 Всего доброго, Юра. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: DVDStyler - добавление видеофп йлов в проект
11 июля 2009 г. 14:03 пользователь Yuriy Vlasov m...@mail.ru написал: Анатолий Валерьевич пишет: Про программу DVDStyler не могу ни чего сказать. Пользуюсь программой ManDVD с сайта http://www.getdeb.net/. Правда при установке программы придётся доустановить около 10 пакетов. Программа работает без замечаний, интерфейс на английском. К этой программе у меня два замечания: 1) На звуке периодически возникают артефакты в виде неприятных скрипов 2) Она не может создать слайдшоу из фоток - вылетает с ошибкой. -- [Team] Злой Сисоп [Team] Kalabaha [Team] Lexx The Ubuntu Counter Project - user number # 17409 ICQ: 170701066 Skype: yura257 Всего доброго, Юра. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru 10 пакетов - не есть проблема! что ж, пояюзаем manDVD :) -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Курсор мыши в Firefox
11 июля 2009 г. 12:57 пользователь Ben Aceler ace...@gmail.com написал: Друзья мои, я опечален © Ubuntu 9.04, стоит тема курсоров Oxygen, во всех приложениях курсор oxygen, но не в Firefox. Он считает себя особеннывм и основной курсор, а также курсор в форме руки меняет на стандартные убунтушные Human. Курсор занятости же вполне себе oxygen. Запуск в safe mode ситуацию не улучшил, т.е. расширения тут явно не причём. Как бы мне привести Firefox к консистентному виду? -- jabber://ace...@jabber.ru http://www.aceler.ru/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru Может все-таки проблема в том, что Oxygen - это KDE`шная тема курсоров и firefox принудительно у себя в окне меняет тему курсоров на родную Human -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Курсор мыши в Firefox
В сообщении от Суббота 11 июля 2009 Александр Загорнов написал(a): 11 июля 2009 г. 12:57 пользователь Ben Aceler ace...@gmail.com написал: Друзья мои, я опечален © Ubuntu 9.04, стоит тема курсоров Oxygen, во всех приложениях курсор oxygen, но не в Firefox. Он считает себя особеннывм и основной курсор, а также курсор в форме руки меняет на стандартные убунтушные Human. Курсор занятости же вполне себе oxygen. Запуск в safe mode ситуацию не улучшил, т.е. расширения тут явно не причём. Как бы мне привести Firefox к консистентному виду? -- jabber://ace...@jabber.ru http://www.aceler.ru/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru Может все-таки проблема в том, что Oxygen - это KDE`шная тема курсоров и firefox принудительно у себя в окне меняет тему курсоров на родную Human Темы курсоров вообще для иксов пишут, а не для Gnome/KDE :) Но даже если и так, чем Firefox такой хороший, что ни одно другое приложение так себя не ведёт? Бага же, по-любому. -- jabber://ace...@jabber.ru http://www.aceler.ru/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
[Bug 398130] [NEW] Please merge apache2 2.2.11-7(main) from debian unstable(main)
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: apache2 Debian has a new version to be merged apache2 (2.2.11-7) unstable; urgency=low . * Security fixes: - CVE-2009-1890: denial of service in mod_proxy - CVE-2009-1891: denial of service in mod_deflate (closes: #534712) * Add symlinks for the debug info to the mpm packages. * Be slightly more informative in the default index.html without pointing to Apache or Debian (LP: #89364) * Remove dependency on net-tools, which is no longer necessary (closes: #535849) * Bump Standards-Version (no changes) ** Affects: apache2 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: Confirmed -- Please merge apache2 2.2.11-7(main) from debian unstable(main) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398130 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to apache2 in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 398130] Re: Please merge apache2 2.2.11-7(main) from debian unstable(main)
** Attachment added: debian ubuntu diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28907464/debian.debdiff ** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed ** CVE added: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi- bin/cvename.cgi?name=2009-1890 ** CVE added: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi- bin/cvename.cgi?name=2009-1891 -- Please merge apache2 2.2.11-7(main) from debian unstable(main) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398130 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to apache2 in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 398272] [NEW] New upstream version
Public bug reported: Dovecot 1.2 with many new features is available now, current version is 1.2.1: http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot-news/2009-July/000122.html ** Affects: dovecot (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- New upstream version https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398272 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dovecot in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
mon système crunchbang 8.10 freeze sa ns raison apparente
Bonjour, je tourne avec crunchbang 8.10 depuis quelques mois sans avoir eu le moindre pépin jusqu'à aujourd'hui. Depuis quelques jours, sans raison apparente le système se fige. La souris et le clavier sont inopérants. Le ctrl+alt+F1 ne me donne pas de console et le ctrl+alt+backspace ne relance pas le serveur X. le phénomène se produit aussi bien juste après le démarrage du système qu'au bout de quelques heures et ce sans qu'une application ne tourne. Pourriez vous me dire: 1) comment décoincer le système en douceur sans faire off/on? 2) ce que je pourrai faire comme manip pour piéger l'origine du défaut? merci et bon WE. al1 -- ubuntu-fr mailing list ubuntu-fr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-fr
Re: mon système crunchbang 8.10 freeze sans raison apparente
al1 a écrit : 1) comment décoincer le système en douceur sans faire off/on? 2) ce que je pourrai faire comme manip pour piéger l'origine du défaut? Nous sommes plusieurs sur cette liste à subir ce désagrément. Le PC freeze subitement sans qu'on ne puisse en déterminer la cause. Il n'y a rien dans les logs et ça survient n'importe quand sans logique apparente. Ca ne semble pas non plus être dépendant d'un certain matériel. Les dernières mises à jour du noyau n'ont pas résolu le problème. A part un reset, rien ne permet d'en sortir. Voilà, bienvenue au club ;-) -- Michel Leunen http://linux.leunen.com -- ubuntu-fr mailing list ubuntu-fr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-fr
Re: mon système crunchbang 8.10 freeze sans raison apparente
al1 a écrit : Bonjour, je tourne avec crunchbang 8.10 depuis quelques mois sans avoir eu le moindre pépin jusqu'à aujourd'hui. Depuis quelques jours, sans raison apparente le système se fige. La souris et le clavier sont inopérants. Le ctrl+alt+F1 ne me donne pas de console et le ctrl+alt+backspace ne relance pas le serveur X. le phénomène se produit aussi bien juste après le démarrage du système qu'au bout de quelques heures et ce sans qu'une application ne tourne. Pourriez vous me dire: 1) comment décoincer le système en douceur sans faire off/on? 2) ce que je pourrai faire comme manip pour piéger l'origine du défaut? merci et bon WE. al1 Bonjour, je ne connais pas crunchbang 8.10, par contre, je subis exactement le même problème depuis que je suis passé à Jaunty. Il y plusieurs fils ouverts sur les forums ubuntu-fr et ubuntu en ce moment. Il y a également un bug sur launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/355155 Pour le moment pas de solution, seulement des pistes. Ça concerne la 9.04 mais les symptômes sont exactement les mêmes que ceux que tu décris. Peut-être une mise à jour récente qui te rapprocherait de la version 9.04 en est-elle la cause? Si tu trouves, merci de nous communiquer ce que tu as fait, cela aiderait peut-être à trouver la solution pour 9.04. Personnellement, suite à des pistes lancées sur la gestion des variations de fréquence du processeur, j'ai désactivé dans mon BIOS l'option Cool Quiet qui permet de faire varier de 1 à 2 GHz la fréquence de mon processeur en fonction des sollicitations. Depuis, je suis passé de 2 à 3 freezes par jours à 2 depuis le 26/06. Bon courage pour la suite et tiens nous au courant. Pierre -- ubuntu-fr mailing list ubuntu-fr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-fr
Re: mon système crunchbang 8.10 freeze sans raison apparente
Pierre LEJEUNE a écrit : al1 a écrit : Bonjour, je tourne avec crunchbang 8.10 depuis quelques mois sans avoir eu le moindre pépin jusqu'à aujourd'hui. Depuis quelques jours, sans raison apparente le système se fige. La souris et le clavier sont inopérants. Le ctrl+alt+F1 ne me donne pas de console et le ctrl+alt+backspace ne relance pas le serveur X. le phénomène se produit aussi bien juste après le démarrage du système qu'au bout de quelques heures et ce sans qu'une application ne tourne. Pourriez vous me dire: 1) comment décoincer le système en douceur sans faire off/on? 2) ce que je pourrai faire comme manip pour piéger l'origine du défaut? merci et bon WE. al1 Bonjour, je ne connais pas crunchbang 8.10, par contre, je subis exactement le même problème depuis que je suis passé à Jaunty. Il y plusieurs fils ouverts sur les forums ubuntu-fr et ubuntu en ce moment. Il y a également un bug sur launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/355155 Pour le moment pas de solution, seulement des pistes. Ça concerne la 9.04 mais les symptômes sont exactement les mêmes que ceux que tu décris. Peut-être une mise à jour récente qui te rapprocherait de la version 9.04 en est-elle la cause? Si tu trouves, merci de nous communiquer ce que tu as fait, cela aiderait peut-être à trouver la solution pour 9.04. Personnellement, suite à des pistes lancées sur la gestion des variations de fréquence du processeur, j'ai désactivé dans mon BIOS l'option Cool Quiet qui permet de faire varier de 1 à 2 GHz la fréquence de mon processeur en fonction des sollicitations. Depuis, je suis passé de 2 à 3 freezes par jours à 2 depuis le 26/06. Bon courage pour la suite et tiens nous au courant. Pierre Merci à Pierre et Michel pour vos réponses. pour faire avancer la science il ne me semble pas que j'ai installé quoi que ce soit depuis le début de l'apparition du phénomène et je n'ai aucune mise à jour automatique sur le système. Je ne suis pas encore très gêné par le problème puisque j'en suis à moins d'un freeze par jour. En absence de solution simple je vais rester comme cela et j'opterai pour une bonne réinstallation si cela empire. Je me demande par contre si le fait que mon répertoire /home/perso soit assez chargé (89% plein, il reste 1Go de libre) a une incidence. al1. -- ubuntu-fr mailing list ubuntu-fr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-fr
Re: mon système crunchbang 8.10 freeze sans raison apparente
Le samedi 11 juillet 2009 à 14:44 +0200, al1 a écrit : Pierre LEJEUNE a écrit : al1 a écrit : Bonjour, je tourne avec crunchbang 8.10 depuis quelques mois sans avoir eu le moindre pépin jusqu'à aujourd'hui. Depuis quelques jours, sans raison apparente le système se fige. La souris et le clavier sont inopérants. Le ctrl+alt+F1 ne me donne pas de console et le ctrl+alt+backspace ne relance pas le serveur X. le phénomène se produit aussi bien juste après le démarrage du système qu'au bout de quelques heures et ce sans qu'une application ne tourne. Pourriez vous me dire: 1) comment décoincer le système en douceur sans faire off/on? 2) ce que je pourrai faire comme manip pour piéger l'origine du défaut? merci et bon WE. al1 Bonjour, je ne connais pas crunchbang 8.10, par contre, je subis exactement le même problème depuis que je suis passé à Jaunty. Il y plusieurs fils ouverts sur les forums ubuntu-fr et ubuntu en ce moment. Il y a également un bug sur launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/355155 Pour le moment pas de solution, seulement des pistes. Ça concerne la 9.04 mais les symptômes sont exactement les mêmes que ceux que tu décris. Peut-être une mise à jour récente qui te rapprocherait de la version 9.04 en est-elle la cause? Si tu trouves, merci de nous communiquer ce que tu as fait, cela aiderait peut-être à trouver la solution pour 9.04. Personnellement, suite à des pistes lancées sur la gestion des variations de fréquence du processeur, j'ai désactivé dans mon BIOS l'option Cool Quiet qui permet de faire varier de 1 à 2 GHz la fréquence de mon processeur en fonction des sollicitations. Depuis, je suis passé de 2 à 3 freezes par jours à 2 depuis le 26/06. Bon courage pour la suite et tiens nous au courant. Pierre Merci à Pierre et Michel pour vos réponses. pour faire avancer la science il ne me semble pas que j'ai installé quoi que ce soit depuis le début de l'apparition du phénomène et je n'ai aucune mise à jour automatique sur le système. Je ne suis pas encore très gêné par le problème puisque j'en suis à moins d'un freeze par jour. En absence de solution simple je vais rester comme cela et j'opterai pour une bonne réinstallation si cela empire. Je me demande par contre si le fait que mon répertoire /home/perso soit assez chargé (89% plein, il reste 1Go de libre) a une incidence. al1. bonjour je n'apporte pas specialement de solution,je consultais des articles sur le site unixgarden et j'ai trouve ceci,en esperant que cela te sera utile. 1.1 les causes d'un plantages: http://www.unixgarden.com/index.php/administration-systeme/maitrisez-votre-configuration-materielle#more-549 yves c. -- ubuntu-fr mailing list ubuntu-fr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-fr
[Ubuntu-US-CA] Got Banner
I think it looks good and colors pretty much identical to my screen. I will take a pic when get home. Grant, if you are coming to BerkeleyLUG tomorrow, I'd like to pass it off to you in case I have flight trouble or something coming back from Florida. -Jack -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Got Banner
Epic! Thanks Jack :) On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jack Deslippe jdes...@gmail.com wrote: I think it looks good and colors pretty much identical to my screen. I will take a pic when get home. Grant, if you are coming to BerkeleyLUG tomorrow, I'd like to pass it off to you in case I have flight trouble or something coming back from Florida. -Jack -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Got Banner
Wonderful! I'll be there. Grant Bowman https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Joe Smithyasumo...@gmail.com wrote: Epic! Thanks Jack :) On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jack Deslippe jdes...@gmail.com wrote: I think it looks good and colors pretty much identical to my screen. I will take a pic when get home. Grant, if you are coming to BerkeleyLUG tomorrow, I'd like to pass it off to you in case I have flight trouble or something coming back from Florida. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Got Banner
I have a picture of the banner for the curious: http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner.jpg Cheers, -Jack Grant Bowman wrote: Wonderful! I'll be there. Grant Bowman https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Joe Smithyasumo...@gmail.com wrote: Epic! Thanks Jack :) On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jack Deslippe jdes...@gmail.com wrote: I think it looks good and colors pretty much identical to my screen. I will take a pic when get home. Grant, if you are coming to BerkeleyLUG tomorrow, I'd like to pass it off to you in case I have flight trouble or something coming back from Florida. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
[Bug 398073] [NEW] Cant get updates
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: synaptic The system crashes and also other programs do not work like I can not open PDF attachments of emails and open office word files. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.04 ExecutablePath: /usr/sbin/synaptic Package: synaptic 0.62.5ubuntu3 ProcAttrCurrent: unconfined ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: synaptic Uname: Linux 2.6.28-13-generic i686 ** Affects: synaptic (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 -- Cant get updates https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398073] Re: Cant get updates
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903819/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903820/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903821/ProcStatus.txt -- Cant get updates https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398074] [NEW] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [Xorg:3492]
Public bug reported: Just logged on with terminator, firefox and rdesktop running and then this popped up. ProblemType: KernelOops Annotation: Your system might become unstable now and might need to be restarted. Architecture: amd64 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.04 Failure: oops MachineType: LENOVO 89185QG NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic 2.6.28-11.42 ProcCmdLine: root=UUID=ee45fa8e-2f13-48f4-9247-5d911753afce ro splash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.28-11.42-generic SourcePackage: linux Tags: kernel-oops Title: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [Xorg:3492] ** Affects: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-kerneloops kernel-oops -- BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [Xorg:3492] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398074 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398074] Re: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [Xorg:3492]
** Attachment added: BootDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903867/BootDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: CurrentDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903868/CurrentDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903869/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: HalComputerInfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903870/HalComputerInfo.txt ** Attachment added: Lspci.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903871/Lspci.txt ** Attachment added: Lsusb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903872/Lsusb.txt ** Attachment added: OopsText.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903873/OopsText.txt ** Attachment added: ProcCpuinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903874/ProcCpuinfo.txt ** Attachment added: ProcInterrupts.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903875/ProcInterrupts.txt ** Attachment added: ProcModules.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28903876/ProcModules.txt -- BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [Xorg:3492] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398074 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 328760] Re: [i965gm] system unresponsive after recovery from screensaver
Well, not sure if this is Fix committed. I didn't have anymore problems with it since jaunty, but Mike.lifeguard has. He might have a different type of freeze though. -- [i965gm] system unresponsive after recovery from screensaver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/328760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 397961] Re: pitivi crashed with SIGSEGV in PyObject_IsInstance()
** Visibility changed to: Public -- pitivi crashed with SIGSEGV in PyObject_IsInstance() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/397961 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 397411] Re: pitivi Segmentation fault (core dumped)
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 397961 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/397961 I think it was marked as private because I reported it using apport. I changed the setting to public. -- pitivi Segmentation fault (core dumped) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/397411 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 396655] Re: Intel ghraphics - VideoRam value locked. X.org Disregards manual value
In looking at this closer, the man page specifically addresses this: By default, the i810/i815 will use 8 MB of system memory for graphics if AGP allocable memory is 128 MB, 16 MB if 192 MB or 24 MB if higher. Use the VideoRam option to change the default value. For the 830M and later, the driver will automatically size its memory allocation according to the features it will support. Therefore, the VideoRam option, which in the past had been necessary to allow more than some small amount of memory to be allocated, is now ignored. So the fact that it is not possible to set VideoRam is by intent, and so this is not a bug. If you disagree with this and want to make use of the VideoRam option for manually controlling ram allocation, I would encourage you to talk about your needs directly with upstream via the xorg@ mailing list. ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix -- Intel ghraphics - VideoRam value locked. X.org Disregards manual value https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/396655 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 118363] Re: Error '/usr/sbin/sendmail' does not exist
i've installed sendmail on my ubuntu desktop but whhen the service started it show an error database(s) sourceswere not found can anybody help me? -- Error '/usr/sbin/sendmail' does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118363 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 388980] Re: Main Inclusion for libpango-perl
Promoted ** Changed in: libpango-perl (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- Main Inclusion for libpango-perl https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388980 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 35316] Re: these windows do not support save current setup message questionable
Karmic Alpha 2 kernel 2.6.31-1 I use on my AMD64 notebook Acer Aspire 4530 - AMD turion 64 ZM82 - Nvidia Geforce 9100M G - 4GB of RAM Confirm this bug appear everytime after login -- these windows do not support save current setup message questionable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35316 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 35316] Re: these windows do not support save current setup message questionable
Karmic Alpha 2 kernel 2.6.31-1 I use on my AMD64 notebook Acer Aspire 4530 - AMD turion 64 ZM82 - Nvidia Geforce 9100M G - 4GB of RAM Confirm this bug appear everytime after login -- these windows do not support save current setup message questionable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35316 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 241389] Re: [i945] TV out refresh rate is not correct using xrandr and intel 945 chipset
Hmm, Tapani, well your symptoms are drifting from the original issue, which sounds like it's long since fixed; we've not heard from Farhad in some time though. ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- [i945] TV out refresh rate is not correct using xrandr and intel 945 chipset https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/241389 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398077] [NEW] No apparent way to restore default session start programs
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: gnome-session Dear friends, I think that there should be a way to tell which session startup programs are from the default set. Also, I think that there should be a way to restore them. For example, if a user deletes by accident the evolution alarm notifier, he might not even know which one he accidentally deleted and he might miss an appointment! Perhaps there should be a warning/confirmation dialog before deletion. Many blessings. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.04 Package: gnome-session 2.26.0svn20090408-0ubuntu2 ProcEnviron: LANG=he_IL.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: gnome-session Uname: Linux 2.6.28-13-generic i686 ** Affects: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 -- No apparent way to restore default session start programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398077 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398077] Re: No apparent way to restore default session start programs
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904325/Dependencies.txt -- No apparent way to restore default session start programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398077 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398078] [NEW] Sync w2do 2.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main).
Public bug reported:
Please sync w2do 2.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main).
Changelog since current karmic version 2.2.1-1:
w2do (2.2.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
* New upstream release
* debian/control:
- Add DM-Upload-Allowed field
- Bump Standards-Version to 3.8.2 (no changes)
- Fix Build-Depends on debhelper (= 7.0.50) for the override_ targets
in debian/rules.
- Remove perl-modules from Depends field and add ${perl:Depends} to let
the dependency list be generated by dh_perl.
-- Salvatore Bonaccorso salvatore.bonacco...@gmail.com Fri, 03 Jul 2009
11:48:21 +0200
** Affects: w2do (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Sync w2do 2.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main).
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[Bug 397412] Re: brasero fails when burning DVD
Having read an article about bugs in wodim and all sorts of controversy with the original cdrtools, I managed to replace the cdrecord and mkisofs on my system with 'originals' from http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html A simulation burn passed but my delight was short lived as again, an error occurred halfway through the write and the log shows the same issue: BraseroCDRecord stderr: cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error Does it matter that I'm using SATA hdd and dvdrw? The drive controller in my system is : Intel Corporation 82801FR/FRW (ICH6R/ICH6RW) SATA Controller (rev 03) I'll now revert my system back to the original wodim packages and I'll investigate what this 'write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error' is all about. -- brasero fails when burning DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/397412 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392593] Re: [karmic regression] cannot connect to wireless network
The WEP part might be bug 339313, but WPA sounds like a new issue. ** Also affects: plasma-widget-network-manager (Ubuntu Karmic) Importance: Undecided Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) Status: Confirmed ** Changed in: plasma-widget-network-manager (Ubuntu Karmic) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Jonathan Riddell (jr) -- [karmic regression] cannot connect to wireless network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392593 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 396874] Re: mount ignores options from fstab
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 162863 ntfs-3g does not respect fstab options -- mount ignores options from fstab https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/396874 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398079] [NEW] ubuntu-bug -p linux don't help
Public bug reported: hi, trying to send the result of this command: ubuntu-bug -p linux, the process run collect all the needed information, but then i can't see how to send the report: validating send to dev, a usual empty bug report is opened as if the previous command have not existed. trying ubuntu-bug -p linux bug, nothing is stored: so how to use it ? ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Sat Jul 11 08:50:02 2009 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=f4216733-a2b7-4818-9852-9bb41d54d87c MachineType: ASUSTEK COMPUTER INC P5W DH Deluxe NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux-image-2.6.31-2-generic 2.6.31-2.17 ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-2-generic root=UUID=f23f677d-7a16-4190-a2fa-c668e9e0a3ac ro quiet splash ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-2.17-generic RelatedPackageVersions: linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-2-generic N/A SourcePackage: linux Uname: Linux 2.6.31-2-generic i686 dmi.bios.date: 07/10/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc. dmi.bios.version: 2801 dmi.board.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.board.name: P5W DH Deluxe dmi.board.vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC. dmi.board.version: Rev 1.xx dmi.chassis.asset.tag: Asset-1234567890 dmi.chassis.type: 3 dmi.chassis.vendor: Chassis Manufacture dmi.chassis.version: Chassis Version dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvr2801:bd07/10/2008:svnASUSTEKCOMPUTERINC:pnP5WDHDeluxe:pvrSystemVersion:rvnASUSTeKComputerINC.:rnP5WDHDeluxe:rvrRev1.xx:cvnChassisManufacture:ct3:cvrChassisVersion: dmi.product.name: P5W DH Deluxe dmi.product.version: System Version dmi.sys.vendor: ASUSTEK COMPUTER INC ** Affects: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 -- ubuntu-bug -p linux don't help https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398079 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398078] Re: Sync w2do 2.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main).
Hi One comment on this: the upload has apart from the minor debian/* packaging changes the following changes included in the new upstream part: - 2009-06-29 Jaromir Hradilek jhradi...@gmail.com * src/w2do.pl, src/w2html.pl, src/w2text.pl: Increased version for a release. * src/w2do.pl: Improved statistics listing. Statistics now include finished / all tasks ratio for both per group and overall progress. 2009-06-28 Jaromir Hradilek jhradi...@gmail.com * src/w2do.pl: Fixed issue with `leaking' colours. Coloured output should now work correctly in most terminal emulators. * src/w2do.pl: Fixed statistics listing. Overall progress bar is no longer displayed when the task list is empty. - Thus in particular the color-output problem is solved. And therefore it would be really good to have 2.2.2-1 in karmic instead of 2.2.1-1. A preliminary package for testing is in my PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~carnil/+archive/ppa?field.name_filter=w2dofield.status_filter=publishedfield.series_filter=karmic Kind regards Salvatore -- Sync w2do 2.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398078 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 398079] Re: ubuntu-bug -p linux don't help
** Attachment added: BootDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904417/BootDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: CurrentDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904418/CurrentDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904419/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: Lspci.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904420/Lspci.txt ** Attachment added: Lsusb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904421/Lsusb.txt ** Attachment added: ProcCpuinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904422/ProcCpuinfo.txt ** Attachment added: ProcInterrupts.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904423/ProcInterrupts.txt ** Attachment added: ProcModules.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904424/ProcModules.txt ** Attachment added: UdevDb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904425/UdevDb.txt ** Attachment added: UdevLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28904426/UdevLog.txt -- ubuntu-bug -p linux don't help https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398079 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 355155] Re: Clocksource tsc unstable leads to lockups in Ubuntu Jaunty
maxcpus=1 does *not* solve my problem. Still easily reproducible. Will spend some time investigating the sound approach. -- Clocksource tsc unstable leads to lockups in Ubuntu Jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/355155 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
