date:20101005

El dv 01 de 10 de 2010 a les 08:27 +, en/na Kazade va escriure:
 Just a follow up to my previous comment, both the strings are translated
 in launchpad, just not yet packaged in gnome-applets.
 

We're starting to build the final language packs today, so they should
be there in a few days and include all the new translations.

If after you've updated to the latest language packs you still see any
remaining Deleted Items or Wastebasket instances, please report back and
let's investigate where they come from.

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Vish

I would suggest *against* adding the for this. Menu items are not
about forming grammatically correct complete sentences.

HIG specifies not to overuse these http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-
style-guide/stable/grammar.html.en

Also, no other menu items use the/a unnecessarily. 
Eg: nautilus File menu  is Create Folder , Create Document. and everywhere 
else in all applications it is the same pattern. 

Adding the here would mean bringing in a new inconsistency.

But, if the British think they invented English, then... Oh! wait! :-)

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread charles

** Also affects: transmission (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: transmission (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators 
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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Fallows

Thanks David for the update and thanks to everyone who has worked on
this! Hope we have caught every translation and that the updates come
through soon :).

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2010-10-05 Thread charles

** Changed in: transmission (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: transmission (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Fallows

To be fair I think the inconsistency with the the came about when I
was translating all of the original texts to Rubbish bin I kept a the
when it was a wordy text such Do you wish to send this to the Rubbish
Bin where as if it was an action/command Send to Rubbish Bin I missed
out the the. Could be my East London dialect that makes that sound OK
without the the? I guess this means I aggree with Vish as he is
talking mainly of the menu items (i.e. actions/commands).

Michael

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Vish

In US english it is Open Trash and Empty Trash , there is no the ,
why does UK English need extra the ?

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Vish

OK, I think my reference to the gnome HIG is a bit unfair over this
issue :-) [maybe a side-effect of replying at 3am on a Sat night :p ]

Because HIG is basically how the _default_ language style needs to be
written in Gnome UI and the default language is US English. So
everything else is just based accordingly there.

As popey mentioned, the translations need to adapt to the locale.
The local translators need to decide which sounds more apt for their locale and 
they weigh in on the benefits.

My non-locale view on this is that, this change *is* bringing in new
inconsistent to the items from the rest of the system menus.

However, the UK translators/users might find this an absolutely necessary 
change to make. 
If so, this needs to be done elsewhere too, to maintain a consistent UI. Kindly 
make the necessary changes elsewhere too.

Mostly, everwhere in HIG there is a reference of keeping labels short and for 
clear, consistent and concise labelling.
http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/language-labels.html.en

http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-standard.html.en
Find Next, Find Previous , From FIle... , Add Bookmark , Edit Bookmarks , need 
to be changed
More items listed at :
http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-design.html.en
http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-style-guide/stable/menu-terminology.html.en
http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus.html.en

This bug is about the inconsistent naming of wastebasket and Deleted items, and 
was fixed when popey confirmed with screenshot in comment #90, beyond which we 
have piggy-backed on this bug with another issue. 
Marking this bug as fixed, while the change to add the/a/an can be discussed 
in a new a bug for all menu items.

Thanks everyone for getting this fixed! :-)

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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** Changed in: gnome-applets
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: gnome-applets (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: nautilus
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: ubuntu-translations
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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

Hi everyone,

Thanks to everyone participating in the discussions and applying the
fixes, the original bug about inconsistent naming is now fixed. Good
work!

For any remaining issues such as the need to add an article to the
actions related to the Rubbish Bin, I'd recommend using the British
translators mailing list, which is a more appropriate forum for such
discussions.

Once agreement has been reached, you can modify the strings in Launchpad
if necessary, and they will be picked up in the next round of stable
release language pack updates, a few weeks after release.

Thanks!

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Kazade

The problem is that, Sent to Rubbish Bin and Empty Rubbish Bin sound
disjointed and robotic. It's not fair to compare it to trash because
Trash is what what goes in the bin (e.g. Empty Rubbish sounds OK).

Empty Rubbish Bin is understandable, it's just ugly.

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread V A R G U X

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
 Assignee: Ubuntu Documentation Project Team (ubuntu-doc) = (unassigned)

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Kazade

I've added suggested translations in Launchpad including the missing
the in gnome-applets and there is already an existing one in Nautilus
(for the button that appears when you view the rubbish bin). I don't
have magic translation review powers so I can only suggest the change,
can someone go in and review it?

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation

2010-10-05 Thread Kevin Godby

I concur with Vish: for menu items, the determiner 'the' should
typically be omitted. Here's a list of standard menus and menu items:

  http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-standard.html.en

None of the menu items listed contain determiners.

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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 36, Issue 1

2010-10-05 Thread Ara Pulido



On 02/10/10 03:04, Sujith S wrote:
 
 
 Hi Friends,
 
 I am new to Ubuntu testing community.My name is Sujith S.I have been using 
 ubuntu for past 8 months.
 
 I am very much intrested to be a part of Ubuntu Testing team.I am actually 
 working in the field of testing so I think I can contribute in this area.
 
 I would like to get advises on this ?Where can I start ? 

Hello Sujith, welcome!

Please, have a look to our testing page [1], where you have information
about our open projects and our regular activities.

Let us know if you need more information.

Thanks!
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Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-10-05 Thread Charlie Kravetz

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Just a quick reminder that tomorrow, the 6th of October, we are having a
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Agenda, so far, looks like this:

* review previous action items (all)
* Maverick Final ISO testing status -- ara
* SRU testing -- jibel
* Bug Day status -- pedro_
* Maverick Blueprints Status -- marjo
* Selection of new chair -- charlie-tca 


Please, add your agenda items, as usual, at:

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Re: Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-10-05 Thread Sulu Mayer

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Frist of all i cant veryfie that pgp signature and dont know why. probably
forgot soething. lol

Second. Ill be absent on that meeting also

Sorry

Greetings
Sulumar
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Re: Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-10-05 Thread Steve Beattie

On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:04:45PM +0200, Sulu Mayer wrote:
 Frist of all i cant veryfie that pgp signature and dont know why. probably
 forgot soething. lol

It verified here just fine, how is it failing for
you? Do note that firegpg, which you appear to be using,
has been discontinued due to the author's inability to
cope with the frequent changes to the gmail interface; see
http://blog.getfiregpg.org/2010/06/07/firegpg-discontinued/ for
more info.

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Re: New member to Ubuntu testing

2010-10-05 Thread Dan Trevino

You probably want to read this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam

Then go here to get started:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing

2010/10/4 Sujith S sujith...@gmail.com:
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 My name is Sujith S.I have been using ubuntu for past 6months and I am now
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu not booting up

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote:

 From: Shubham Chakraborty s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com

 I have been using ubuntu for about two years now. But recently after

 upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04 I have suffered from the biggest problem faced.
 It doesn't boot up.
 It shows the ubuntu logo and then after around three minutes it shows that
 UUID path not found. Then the laptop goes off.
 I have a lot of data in my ubuntu drive and can't afford to re-install as
 my
 laptop has only two partitions one windows and one ubuntu.
 Kindly help.


 The data wont get affected unless you decide to reformat.


Not so

if the OP says he has one partition for Ubuntu and another for Win XP then
there is great risk of losing data during reinstallation

If there is one Ubuntu partition it means everything is inside it - means
just one / (/root) partition which contains /boot / (root) /home /var /etc
etc etc basically everything.

So no don't go in for a reinstall till you recover your data.


 If you have a Live CD/USB of Ubuntu, boot up using that and reinstall Grub.
 Google for Reinstalling Grub in Ubuntu 10.04 and follow the instructions.

 do as above.

1. If you data is very important then after booting from a live cd find you
home (where you data should be) and transfer it to an external disk.

2. This UUID problem seems to be a constant one and sometimes the solution
works sometimes it does not - am assuming that while trying to boot you get
redirected to a shell with a terminal prompt. There may / should be a
message saying press Control+d to continue to a normal mode. If this is the
case then then control+d will not work until you enter a blank atleast two
times. Basically at the prompt enter enter twice. Then press Control+D and
the system should start up normally. This happens when the upgraded system
does not recognize a partition by its UUID

Again to irritatingly reiterate - first get your data out and then do any
recovery.

And next time you install Ubuntu make sure you have a separate /home it
really helps when the system gets messed up

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Re: [ubuntu-in] sudo user on Fedora

2010-10-05 Thread Narendra Sisodiya

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:13 PM, g...@sarai.net g...@sarai.net wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 23:05:00 +0530 Narendra Sisodiya
 naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote

  How We can create settings to that user will become sudo user.
 
  I know this procedure. http://lug-iitd.org/Shell_Scripts#SUDO
  How ubuntu manage to do it automatically.
 [...]

 What is wrong with the above procedure?


I want some permanent solution that if I create a new user, it will be given
sudo power.



 Ubuntu probably does the same thing behind the scenes, or
 maybe it just adds the default user at install time to the
 admin group, as /etc/sudoers has:
 # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
 %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL


Thanks, I will try it.


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[ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

Hi

have been trying to install epson 4490 Photo Perfection scanner on Ubuntu
9.10 for quite a while now

and have used the following web sources to help.

1.HowTo: Epson Scanners - Ubuntu Forums. at 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154178http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154178%3E
2.NOTES FROM INSTALLING ubuntu LINUX 7.04 / 7.10 / 8.04 / 9.04 / 10.04. at 
http://computer-bob.home.mindspring.com/ubuntu_install_notes.htmlhttp://computer-bob.home.mindspring.com/ubuntu_install_notes.html%3E
3.Download   Scanner  | AVASYS CORPORATION. at 
http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL2.dohttp://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL2.do%3E
4.[ubuntu] Epson 4180 not working in Ubuntu 9.10 - Ubuntu Forums. at 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8518755http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8518755%3E
5.Bug #217567 in xsane (Ubuntu): “Epson Perfection 4490 PHOTO”. at 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bug/217567https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bug/217567%3E
6.How to install VueScan  Epson Perfection 4490 Photo scanner on an IA32
machine on Ubuntu 9.10 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/res2000/4290535521/http://www.flickr.com/photos/res2000/4290535521/%3E

***
all of them redirect me to download 2 files from AVASYS (ref 3) and in
particular one file
* iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb

which whatever i do i cannot find

any help with this would be much appreciated, rather any help with setting
up this device would be appreciated

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu not booting up

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 From: Shubham Chakraborty s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com



 The data wont get affected unless you decide to reformat.


 Not so

 if the OP says he has one partition for Ubuntu and another for Win XP then
 there is great risk of losing data during reinstallation

 If there is one Ubuntu partition it means everything is inside it - means
 just one / (/root) partition which contains /boot / (root) /home /var /etc
 etc etc basically everything.

 So no don't go in for a reinstall till you recover your data.


 If you have a Live CD/USB of Ubuntu, boot up using that and reinstall
 Grub. Google for Reinstalling Grub in Ubuntu 10.04 and follow the
 instructions.

 do as above.

 1. If you data is very important then after booting from a live cd find you
 home (where you data should be) and transfer it to an external disk.

 2. This UUID problem seems to be a constant one and sometimes the solution
 works sometimes it does not - am assuming that while trying to boot you get
 redirected to a shell with a terminal prompt. There may / should be a
 message saying press Control+d to continue to a normal mode. If this is the
 case then then control+d will not work until you enter a blank atleast two
 times. Basically at the prompt enter enter twice. Then press Control+D and
 the system should start up normally. This happens when the upgraded system
 does not recognize a partition by its UUID

 Again to irritatingly reiterate - first get your data out and then do any
 recovery.

 And next time you install Ubuntu make sure you have a separate /home it
 really helps when the system gets messed up

 ram



I only asked the OP to reinstall grub, so no data risk. OR Am i mistaken.
I also said there is a risk to data if you reformat. should have added
reinstall, but assumed OP understood. MY bad.

And yes, as with any repair /trouble shooting, backing up data should be
done before anything else is attempted.

And as Ram has suggested, please have a separate /home when you reinstall.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu not booting up

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Narendra Diwate 
 narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Shubham Chakraborty s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com



 The data wont get affected unless you decide to reformat.


 Not so


my mistake in reading, could blame it on being dyslexic, but that isn't true
just did not read it properly.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] sudo user on Fedora

2010-10-05 Thread Aanjhan R

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
 I want some permanent solution that if I create a new user, it will be given
 sudo power.

Whats the issue with using adduser command or using visudo and editing
the sudoers file?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

Have no solution to offer as you seem to have tried all options, but just a
Q:
Do you use it to scan a lot of Slides/negatives.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] sudo user on Fedora

2010-10-05 Thread Mehul Ved

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
 How We can create settings to that user will become sudo user.

 I know this procedure. http://lug-iitd.org/Shell_Scripts#SUDO
 How ubuntu manage to do it automatically.

Not all the users have sudo access. The first user has the access but
the users created henceforth do not have the access by default. You
have to add them to the admin group.

See this:

$ id
uid=1001(guest) gid=1001(guest)
groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),121(nopasswdlogin),1001(guest)

$ groups
guest adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape dip video plugdev fuse nopasswdlogin

$ sudo su -
[sudo] password for guest:
guest is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Have no solution to offer as you seem to have tried all options, but just a
 Q:
 Do you use it to scan a lot of Slides/negatives.



the reason i bought it was that it was a linux compatible slide / negative
scanner , have never been able to get it to work on Ubuntu and desperately
want it to work (on Ubuntu) so we can have a free system

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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 the reason i bought it was that it was a linux compatible slide / negative
 scanner , have never been able to get it to work on Ubuntu and desperately
 want it to work (on Ubuntu) so we can have a free system

 Sorry. Follow up Q. How much did it cost and what is the quality of the
scan (slide/negative) in which ever OS it has worked?

The reason i am asking is, i have a Film SLR that i am not using, because of
the cost of film+developing+printing factor when compared to a DSLR (which i
cant afford ATM). I know a DSLR is a long term solution and a scanner cant
be, but an idea.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 the reason i bought it was that it was a linux compatible slide / negative 
 scanner , have never been able to get it to work on Ubuntu and desperately 
 want it to work (on Ubuntu) so we can have a free system

 Sorry. Follow up Q. How much did it cost and what is the quality of the scan 
 (slide/negative) in which ever OS it has worked?

 The reason i am asking is, i have a Film SLR that i am not using, because of 
 the cost of film+developing+printing factor when compared to a DSLR (which i 
 cant afford ATM). I know a DSLR is a long term solution and a scanner cant 
 be, but an idea.

 Sorry once gain for the OT.

It works well under windows (having used it for pictures, film
negatives, film positives ) and Mac, and is supposed to work under
Ubuntu as well.

It cost about 17 K - it also has an option for an ADF (again unique in
its range of activities)

As a solution for a replacement for a DSLR - no its not worth it - if
you add the cost of film and processing + time + turn around time for
processing then its *definitely* not worth it.

However to convert legacy stuff and as a general high quality scanner
it is worth it, and if one can invest in the adf then wow (the adf
costs as much as the scanner)

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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 It works well under windows (having used it for pictures, film
 negatives, film positives ) and Mac, and is supposed to work under
 Ubuntu as well.

 It cost about 17 K - it also has an option for an ADF (again unique in
 its range of activities)

 As a solution for a replacement for a DSLR - no its not worth it - if
 you add the cost of film and processing + time + turn around time for
 processing then its *definitely* not worth it.

 However to convert legacy stuff and as a general high quality scanner
 it is worth it, and if one can invest in the adf then wow (the adf
 costs as much as the scanner)


Thanks. At 17K definitely not. A few more K and I can have my DSLR.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. At 17K definitely not. A few more K and I can have my DSLR.

 But the ADF is cool. For someone who does a lot, to kill for at that price.

the adf is an additional 17 k (haven't got that though)

however the combination of features on the epson 4490 make it
unbeatable there is no scanner - atleast a the time we bought it 3
years back that had this set of features and which was supposed to
work on Linux (the last part has not yet happened though)

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

2010-10-05 Thread Ganesan Venkata Subramanian

Hi Ram

Please try this link

http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do

http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do
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 *iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ganesan Venkata Subramanian
chickoo.i...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ram
 Please try this link
 http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do

whatver deb / ubuntu combination i use i cannot get the said file
* iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb*

the epson model is 4490 - try it and see if you can find the file - am
a bit pixxed because all the help files say download this file but not
one of the links lead to the file

ram


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10

2010-10-05 Thread Ganesan Venkata Subramanian

Hi Ram

Please try this link

http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL2.do

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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ganesan Venkata Subramanian
 chickoo.i...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Ram
  Please try this link
  http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do

 whatver deb / ubuntu combination i use i cannot get the said file
 * iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb*

 the epson model is 4490 - try it and see if you can find the file - am
 a bit pixxed because all the help files say download this file but not
 one of the links lead to the file

 ram

 
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Android and Ubuntu

2010-10-05 Thread FireWave

Personnellement je ne suis pas fan des UI, mais c'est vraiment une
question de point de vue. Le galaxy a plus de mémoire, a un écran plus
résistant et un nouveau processeur (mais même vitesse).

Concrètement, c'est pas mal la même chose. Ceci dit, le Nexus sera le
premier à recevoir les updates et il y aura une communauté de hackers
pour le maintenir pour encore longtemps.

En résumé :
* Nexus One : Maintenance la plus HOT, grosse communauté
* Galaxy : UI plus belle, un peu plus neuf, moins de maintenance.
* Les deux sont de très bons produits.

Rémi Menegon, Ing. Jr
M.Ing Student / VE2FIW
Phone: +1.514.638.2486

Le 2010-10-05 17:04, Dominic Marcotte a écrit :
 Pourquoi le Galaxy S plutôt que le Nexus One?
 
 Et quelle est la différence entre le Nexus One et le UI sense? Est-ce 
 que les UI sense sont vraiment plus « friendly user »?
 
 Dominic
 
 On 10-10-01 09:54 AM, FireWave wrote:
 Pareil, Nexus One. Je te conseille le Galaxy S de Rogers ou Bell, c'est
 un bon produit.

 Rémi Menegon, Ing. Jr
 M.Ing Student / VE2FIW
 Phone: +1.514.638.2486

 Le 2010-10-01 09:49, Marc Deslauriers a écrit :

 On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 09:38 -0400, Martin Gamache wrote:
  
 - Est-ce qu'on peut synchroniser n'importe quel téléphone Android avec
 Evolution via Multisync?

 Je n'ai jamais essayé avec Multisync, par contre Android sync nativement
 avec les contacts et le calendrier gmail. Evolution te permets également
 d'utiliser les contacts et le calendrier gmail, alors c'est ce que
 j'utilise pour l'instant. Multisync m'intéresserait par contre si
 quelqu'un sait si ça marche.

  
 - Quel téléphone préférez-vous?  Présentement, je regarde pour le Sony
 Experia X10 ou le Samsung galaxy S...

 Moi j'ai une Nexus One que _j'adore_.

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Android and Ubuntu

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Faille

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39050603,62200389,00.htm
 http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39050603,62200389,00.htm But
at CTIA in the US early this year, Samsung revealed that the chip is capable
of processing 90 million triangles per second, thanks to the PowerVR SGX 3D
graphics engine. In comparison, the 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor used
in devices such as the HTC
Desirehttp://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051199,45209139p,00.htm
 and Google Nexus
Onehttp://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051199,45181460p,00.htm
does
up to 22 million triangles per second. 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

all,

this is the screen i get everytime i startup...

GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4



Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)

Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode)

Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1)

Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode)

Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1)

Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode)

Memory test (memtest86+)

Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200




On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using 1,97 of grub...I only know this coz its displayed on the screen
 I'm stuck on...
 Can't get passed this screen to get to synaptic or terminal...
 On 4 Oct 2010 21:03, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On 4 October 2010 20:16, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok booted upwhat next please?
 ...
 Sorry for the delay, I had to do some research on Grub1. :-)

 What version of grub are you running? That's the program that is
 displaying the boot menu.
 You can look in Synaptic and search for 'grub', or type 'dpkg --list
 grub' in a terminal - if this is installed the last line shown will
 start 'ii'.

 If the 'grub' package is installed, that's Grub1. Otherwise you're
 using Grub2 (which probably has a version number of 1.97 or 1.98).

 For Grub1, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (that's LST in lower
 case), and 'uncomment' the 'hiddenmenu' option. IIRC, it will
 currently have 2 # marks at the front of the line, change it to just
 1.

 For Grub2 you need to edit /etc/default/grub, and you need to look for
 the GRUB_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT values. GRUB_TIMEOUT should
 be set to 0 (zero). GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT should be set to a value
 between zero and about 2.

 Whichever file you are editing, you will need to have root permission
 to edit it (try Alt-F2, then type 'gksu gedit filename' without the
 quotes and replacing the filename for the relevant version of Grub).


 If you get stuck, let us know.

 Cofion,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Beard

On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote:
 all,

 this is the screen i get everytime i startup...

 GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4

 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)

 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode)

 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1)

 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode)

 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1)

 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode)

 Memory test (memtest86+)

 Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200

Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 
2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

i get a screen which flashes with weird graphics. Like from an 80's video
game.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote:
  all,
 
  this is the screen i get everytime i startup...
 
  GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Memory test (memtest86+)
 
  Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200

 Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux
 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

2010-10-05 Thread George MacLeod

On 4 October 2010 21:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:

 can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files,
 banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox
 lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds



Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three
but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files,
makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art
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rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird

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  On 4 October 2010 21:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:

 can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files,
 banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox
 lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds



 Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

you said you fidled with the usb settings, could you be a little more
specific

On 5 October 2010 09:25, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 i get a screen which flashes with weird graphics. Like from an 80's video
 game.


 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote:
  all,
 
  this is the screen i get everytime i startup...
 
  GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Memory test (memtest86+)
 
  Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200

 Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

i changed the Usb keyboard settings from OS to bios.!

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.comwrote:

 you said you fidled with the usb settings, could you be a little more
 specific


 On 5 October 2010 09:25, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 i get a screen which flashes with weird graphics. Like from an 80's video
 game.


 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote:
  all,
 
  this is the screen i get everytime i startup...
 
  GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1)
 
  Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode)
 
  Memory test (memtest86+)
 
  Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200

 Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux
 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-05 Thread Dan Attwood

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are there any other options? what was the setting called?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

unfortunately i cant recallbut it was under uSB periprels...or something
similiar!

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 are there any other options? what was the setting called?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

2010-10-05 Thread pmgazz




On 05/10/10 12:33, Jacob Mansfield wrote:

rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird

On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeodbhalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
   


Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three
but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files,
makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art
capability as well as many other features.

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I know, I use Banshee and although it crashes about once a month it's as 
reliable as anything else and pretty fast (Amarok is painfully slow, 
especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). I'm 
not crazy about Rhythmbox but it works OK. I tried Songbird a couple of 
years ago, it was fast but very buggy - if it's better now, I'll give it 
another go.


I used to use gmusicbrowser a couple of years ago because I have a huge 
music library and everything else was hopelessly slow ( I set up Amarok 
with a mysql back end once but it was still not great). But Banshee is 
pretty nifty these days and since gmusicbrowser's interface is clunky 
and annoying I've switched back to Banshee.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of
music

On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:



 On 05/10/10 12:33, Jacob Mansfield wrote:

 rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird

 On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeod bhalt...@gmail.com 
 bhalt...@gmail.com wrote:



 Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three
 but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files,
 makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art
 capability as well as many other features.

 --

  I know, I use Banshee and although it crashes about once a month it's as
 reliable as anything else and pretty fast (Amarok is painfully slow,
 especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). I'm not
 crazy about Rhythmbox but it works OK. I tried Songbird a couple of years
 ago, it was fast but very buggy - if it's better now, I'll give it another
 go.

 I used to use gmusicbrowser a couple of years ago because I have a huge
 music library and everything else was hopelessly slow ( I set up Amarok with
 a mysql back end once but it was still not great). But Banshee is pretty
 nifty these days and since gmusicbrowser's interface is clunky and annoying
 I've switched back to Banshee.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

2010-10-05 Thread Alan Pope

On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
 banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of
 music


What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for
the crash?

I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a result.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

2010-10-05 Thread Anton Piatek

You can set amarok to just scan a whole folder tree. It automatically finds
new files added there.

Anton
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On 4 Oct 2010 21:27, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
 can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files,
banshee
 duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox lacks
the
 MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds

 On 4 October 2010 21:21, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote:


 It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and
it
 should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as
files
 than let a tool do it for me)
 Anton
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 On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
  could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4
 hours
  clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it
has
 to
  be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use
'smart
  play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on
 what
  I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s
which
 I
  also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

2010-10-05 Thread Alan Pope

On 5 October 2010 16:45, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
 before I loaded the majority of my music into it, it ran fine


Run it from a terminal and see what error you get? Perhaps there's a
bug filed, if not, you could file one.

Happy to help you file a bug if you're not familiar with it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
 (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very
slow and crashes a lot).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

2010-10-05 Thread Simon Greenwood

Most music players just show the location of a music file as stored in a
database, not the music file itself. It shouldn't be the size of your
library, but could possibly its location or more likely locations.

Simon

On 5 Oct 2010 16:33, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
 banshee crashes every 10 se...
What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for
the crash?

I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a
result.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager

I'm reading from the file size according to ls after banshee duplicated most
of my files

On 5 October 2010 17:03, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Most music players just show the location of a music file as stored in a
 database, not the music file itself. It shouldn't be the size of your
 library, but could possibly its location or more likely locations.

 Simon

 On 5 Oct 2010 16:33, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
  banshee crashes every 10 se...
 What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for
 the crash?

 I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a
 result.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Symlinking to USB hard drives

2010-10-05 Thread Glen Mehn

  On 04/10/10 20:25, Neil Greenwood wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a couple of matched USB hard drives that I use as part of my
 backup strategy. At the moment they both have the same label, so they
 end up mounted at /media/backup. But this means I can't easily tell
 which drive is which, and when I plug the second in, it gets mounted
 at /media/backup_.

 I'd like to re-label the drives to backup1 and backup2, but then have
 a symlink automatically created at /media/backup to whichever drive
 was first plugged in. I think I need to use a udev rule, but other
 than that I'm not sure.

 Does anyone have any ideas?

Hi Neil,

You can rename partitions in parted or gparted, which should sort it out 
for you. Then in your backup script, put something like:

if test -d /mounts/backup1
   do ln -s /mounts/backup1 /mounts/backup
elif test -d /mounts/backup2
   do ln -s /mounts backup2 /mounts/backup
else print neither backup mount point exists, exiting; exit 1

Does that make sense?

Best,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Symlinking to USB hard drives

2010-10-05 Thread Anton Piatek

I use devices by id in my fstab to have unique mount points. Have a browse
through /dev/ when the disk is connected

Anton

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On 5 Oct 2010 18:55, Glen Mehn glen.m...@oba.co.uk wrote:
 On 04/10/10 20:25, Neil Greenwood wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a couple of matched USB hard drives that I use as part of my
 backup strategy. At the moment they both have the same label, so they
 end up mounted at /media/backup. But this means I can't easily tell
 which drive is which, and when I plug the second in, it gets mounted
 at /media/backup_.

 I'd like to re-label the drives to backup1 and backup2, but then have
 a symlink automatically created at /media/backup to whichever drive
 was first plugged in. I think I need to use a udev rule, but other
 than that I'm not sure.

 Does anyone have any ideas?

 Hi Neil,

 You can rename partitions in parted or gparted, which should sort it out
 for you. Then in your backup script, put something like:

 if test -d /mounts/backup1
 do ln -s /mounts/backup1 /mounts/backup
 elif test -d /mounts/backup2
 do ln -s /mounts backup2 /mounts/backup
 else print neither backup mount point exists, exiting; exit 1

 Does that make sense?

 Best,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

Anyone?  I still can't get in..what to do?
 unfortunately i cant recallbut it was under uSB periprels...or
something
 similiar!

 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com
wrote:

 are there any other options? what was the setting called?

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 This is the kind of issue that local LUG meets are really good at
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound effects ....

songbird has a pretty good start latency

On 5 October 2010 21:22, Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote:

 On 4 October 2010 16:07, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
  On 4 October 2010 15:58, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
  Just spent a long time searching through fora with no result.  I want to
  play mp3's of stage sound effects and music tracks.  The problem is that
  they have to be on cue.
 
 
  I'm also interested in an application to do this.
 
  Not seen anything on Ubuntu.

 Probably not quite ideal, but mixxx does a reasonable job of this
 (it's a digital DJ app).

 As far as I can tell you can only load 2 tracks at once, but it's easy
 to create playlists to queue up your other sound effects.

 It can be configured to use either JACK or ALSA, and its ALSA driver
 works fine with pulseaudio.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound effects ....

2010-10-05 Thread Steve Fisher

Something like this?

http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Soundboard-Maker-Download-13664.html
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

Just an update to all this..when I run livecd...it will let me choose an
option...but then the cd loads and the pc shuts down..and restarts!
 On 5 October 2010 20:02, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone?  I still can't get in..what to do?


 I don't know anything about Linux Mint, so can't help I'm afraid.

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Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-05 Thread Jussi Schultink

Hi Takashi,

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Takashi Sakamoto
o-taka...@sakamocchi.jp wrote:
Hi Scott,

In this kind of work, the screenshot is more powerful to give our
opinion than some comments. Would you please look at the screenshot I
attached?
Ive let your message through this time, but in future, please link to
screenshots or pictures, not attach them. For other guidelines for
mailing lists, please see:
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists

Jussi.

0.scott_grid_analyze.png
I think this mocup has much information in a first browser screen and a
bit difficult to get the informations to need.

Then I re-align some components which you made and put some shots from
current ubuntustudio.com.

https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/Mocchi?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=1.takashi_modified.png

I change the logo to Cory K.'s Ideas because I want to put the COF
circle's color as key color.

This is the Grid-Analyzxe.

https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/Mocchi?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=2.takashi_grid_analyze.png

I put some basic and most needed information in the top. And I put much
text information to bottom. This layout will be good for several kind of
users, both newcomer and elder.

What I mean is not pushing my design but I prefer your mocup to current
ubuntustudio.com design. It's simple and easy to wathch. But there is
not so many information...

If you need my help and work, I have some time to help you till this
weekend. I can uunderstand and use the W3C's specification for (X)HTML,
CSS 2.0, JavaScript(ECMA Script), PHP 4 and 5. I'm willing to help you
with drupal if we share the basic source like MySQL data or theme
templates and so on. It'S a pretty sad that I usually use the other engines.

Cheers!

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(2010年10月04日 07:07), Scott Lavender wrote:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Turner
passionsplaydes...@gmail.com mailto:passionsplaydes...@gmail.com wrote:

I would second not throwing out any concepts right off the bat. I
think though that perhaps we should redirect where this thread is
going. Before we get down to eliminating or zeroing in on any
'theme' we should really take a hard look as to how we want this
website to function for the Ubuntu Studio community.

I'd like to try and summarize some things:

The current site at ubuntustudio.org http://ubuntustudio.org/ is a
brochure site - it is very simple, and establishes a sort of
creative vibe- all the while smacking you in the face with DOWNLOAD
-- 1 2 3! This is exactly what we (traditionally) want the visitor
to do - try THIS distro.

I took some time to whip up sitemap for the existing site, and also
one for the eventual 'revamped' one, using the elements that we have
going on the wiki. In addition, I worked a wireframe over a
screenshot of the original site.

What becomes apparent to me while looking over these site maps is
that people are brainstorming for a much more dynamic (and
complicated) website, one that begins to blur the lines between the
wiki, the forums, and the website, perhaps taking on aspects of a
social networking site (I'm thinking specifically about the
submissions, polls, and other things that would require someone to
create a profile).

But do we have the energy/time/skill?

I think that many of these things sound cool. I would ask ourselves
if we (and future users/contributors) will have the energy to create
and maintain one MORE online persona. Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps
this 'social connection' role could be filled by other existing
sites? I'm thinking about the deviantART and Flikr user groups for
inkscape. Are there other sites out there that could facilitate the
creation of Music Creation Communities? To put it another way, do
we have people here wanting to code and maintain that sort of
community in relation to the Ubuntu Studio Website?

Where are we going?

In the end I feel we should more clearly describe where Ubuntu
Studio is moving, and how we envision using it, and by extension,
how we will use the website.

For me I first came to Ubuntu Studio because it was built on the
back of Ubuntu's Gnome install, but with an eye to a more
specialized and 'professional' grade of computer user. This being
said, there are still a few other applications I install that are
not included in the base installation (Who doesn't?) I can see the
Ubuntu Studio project becoming a nexus of creative energy. Taking
the best things out there, and making them work well together, all
the while documenting the processes, and making it easy for new
users (both to Linux, AND to art creation) to create high quality
digital art creations.

Let me know if this resonates with anyone. Where do others see our

Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)

Hi,

2010/10/4 ailo ailo...@gmail.com:
 I'm on Ubuntu Maverick 64 bit, nvidia 7025 integrated graphics.

Which version of nvidia drivers you would want use?

Thanks.

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Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)

2010-10-05 Thread Luke Yelavich

On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:27:02AM EST, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
 Hi,
 
 If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply
 to these questions:
 
 Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime?
 Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least
 test and feedback)?

Of course I'd prefer realtime/rt, however the truth of the matter is that 
keeping up with patches, and keeping the kernel versions in sync for any one 
Ubuntu release is very difficult. For this reason, I'd favour the lowlatency 
kernel, as it would be easier to maintain, given its only configuration 
changes, and would be easier to get into Ubuntu, and maintain it, keeping in 
sync with the Ubuntu release kernel version.

 How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu
 relation, Studio relation and so on)?

I'm happy to help maintain the low latency kernel, i.e using the Ubuntu release 
kernel git tree as a base, and making our own changes on top, and rebasing on 
the Ubuntu kernel for fixes. Can help get it into universe, and maintain it 
there.

 Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for
 that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS?

With the low latency kernel, I would be happy to support it for every Ubuntu 
release where it is in the archive.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio Logo Designs

2010-10-05 Thread red honki

hi all,
i am honki from taiwan.
i also try to design logo of ubuntu studio.
if you have any idea, can tell me.

logo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/5053852596/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/5053852596/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4808479623/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4808479623/about ubuntu:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157623970936653/

thx
honki

2010/10/1 Brian David beej...@gmail.com



 On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Marc R.J. Brevoort m...@dnd.utwente.nlwrote:

 On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Cory K. wrote:

 I think the grey/blue contrast in the first images doesn't work very well-
 the second one being a bit better due to the black outline. I like the N
 and T flowing into each other- I'd keep them the same colour to enhance
 the effect. I like the big logo in the third picture- in the versions with
 the smaller logo, the logo seems a bit out of place due to the way it's
 aligned with the text.

 Overall I think Brian's version looks the most pro (We all love gradients
 and rounded corners! Fortunately, they're not too over-the-top).
 I don't get why two words in the slogan need a different shade but that's
 probaby just me going whoosh!. It's a bit loud image though- ...And
 more! Download NOW (or else)!

 I'll crawl back into my shell now...

 Best,
 Marc


 The loudness was, to an extent, a bit of a joke.  Since I was throwing in
 the text mostly as a placeholder, I couldn't help but get a little sarcastic
 (thus the . . .and more!).  :)

 Looking at it now, I agree with your assessment of the highlighted words.
 I'll go back and make those uniform.

 Also, I think your remark about the gradients and rounded-corners hints a
 good point:  it is the type of thing that gets done a lot.  I'll see what
 other variations I can come up with that are based on the same basic idea,
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Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)

David,

2010/10/5 David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com:
[...]
 great that you want to manage these kernels!

I have always managed -rt kernels in Ubuntu since Feisty Until
Maverick where I have gave up for personal reasons.

 I'm mostly curious about -lowlatency, but unfortunately I haven't got around
 to test it. I think -preempt is a server kernel? Could you also say that
 -lowlatency is the desktop version of -preempt?

I don't know much about -preempt. A low latency kernel in server
context make little sense to me at least.

 Is there a difference between -rt and -realtime, except that your -realtime
 seems more updated than -rt? Do you think we should replace the official
 linux-rt, with your linux-realtime?

Few minutes ago I replied to Laurent about that.

 closely until now, so I'd also like to ask you - do you feel you have the
 support you need from the kernel-team's side for maintaining these kernels?

Really I don't understand what you mean with feel.
In any case I avoid to reply on this answer because I don't want start a flame.

[...]
 I think we need to have it for every release, to get the best possible
 testing and quality of these kernels. If that's possible?

The time of one-man-kernel-made is finished. So if people want the
real time kernel they should help.

 Please reply only if you want help.

 Just to clarify, did you mean if you need help (you help me) or if you
 want to help (I help you) ?

I don't need help unless you want offer me a serious job. Real time
kernel need help.

All -rt kernels have always worked well on my old laptop also the
infamous Intrepid and Jaunty releases.

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Fwd: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels

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Date: 2010/10/5
Subject: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
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Hi,

I really need of someone could take care of a little wiki page about
all real time kernels (differences, reasons, TODO, list of volunteers,
packing status and so on). In this way new comers could find reply to
their questions.

Moreover a bit of interest exist for video closed drivers. Is there a
volunteer to handle DKMS packages?
I could provide all relevant code which fix compatibility with real
time kernels but I don't enough time to handle uploading that code
(that is sending patch to nvidia or fglrx Ubuntu maintainer or upload
a fix package to PPA). In this way we could support closed video
drivers and in general all DKMS base drivers.

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Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)

2010-10-05 Thread ailo

  On 10/05/2010 09:16 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
 Hi,

 2010/10/4 ailoailo...@gmail.com:
 I'm on Ubuntu Maverick 64 bit, nvidia 7025 integrated graphics.
 Which version of nvidia drivers you would want use?

 Thanks.

 Ciao,
 Alessio

You mean nouveau or nvidia-current?
I prefer nvidia-current.

I suppose there are few occasions when both realtime and 3d graphics are 
needed at the same. Perhaps when doing live-music and graphics from the 
same machine?
My experience with karmic (puredyne) and -rt was very positive when it 
comes to stability and performance.
As long as it is safe, I prefer nvidia-current support.

I have one bad experience from -rt, when two of my hard disks died at 
the same time. This was last year, with Centos and planet ccrma 
installed. Old hardware, and the computer did not shutdown properly. A 
few days later, when I started the computer, the hard drives were not 
recognized by the bios.
There were some problems with irq and acpi. Irq problems, because of 
some pci cards, I think.
Not being very smart on the subject I can only speculate what the cause 
was. Maybe lightning?

I can do testing on amd64 and core duo, both with nvidia graphic cards
as well as P3 or P4, but without 3d graphic drivers.


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Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)

2010-10-05 Thread David Henningsson

On 2010-10-05 10:37, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
 David,

 2010/10/5 David Henningssondavid.hennings...@canonical.com:
 [...]
 great that you want to manage these kernels!

 I have always managed -rt kernels in Ubuntu since Feisty Until
 Maverick where I have gave up for personal reasons.

Okay, then a big thanks for your contributions so far!

 I'm mostly curious about -lowlatency, but unfortunately I haven't got around
 to test it. I think -preempt is a server kernel? Could you also say that
 -lowlatency is the desktop version of -preempt?

 I don't know much about -preempt. A low latency kernel in server
 context make little sense to me at least.

To give you that context - from what I've heard, Red Hat has customers 
in the stock business where milliseconds could be the difference between 
being the one being able to buy the stock being up for sale, or losing 
the transaction. That's why the PREEMPT_RT patches were originally created.
I know nothing about whether Canonical has customers in that sector or not.

 Is there a difference between -rt and -realtime, except that your -realtime
 seems more updated than -rt? Do you think we should replace the official
 linux-rt, with your linux-realtime?

 Few minutes ago I replied to Laurent about that.

 closely until now, so I'd also like to ask you - do you feel you have the
 support you need from the kernel-team's side for maintaining these kernels?

 Really I don't understand what you mean with feel.
 In any case I avoid to reply on this answer because I don't want start a 
 flame.

Ok.


 [...]
 I think we need to have it for every release, to get the best possible
 testing and quality of these kernels. If that's possible?

 The time of one-man-kernel-made is finished. So if people want the
 real time kernel they should help.

Okay, I understand, and I'm glad that Luke replied that he wanted to 
help out, at least with the lowlatency version.

I think we need people's opinion on whether lowlatency is good enough, 
or if we really need -rt and/or -realtime. (Which requires more 
maintainer work.)

 Please reply only if you want help.

 Just to clarify, did you mean if you need help (you help me) or if you
 want to help (I help you) ?

 I don't need help unless you want offer me a serious job. Real time
 kernel need help.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-05 Thread Benjamin Turner

In response to Scott's original mockup:
http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png

Good work Scott!

So, starting with what works:

1) I like that things have been moved up the page.  The old site was pretty,
but simple, with specific information at least a scroll's length down the
page.

2) Navigation wise, I would say that someone that lands here has the
potential of getting their bearings quickly.  The global nav is
easily accessible in the upper right, along with lower level categories on
the left being easily skimmed by the eye without having to 'move' the page.


3) On the old site the blog entries were pretty small, closer to tweets --
Look a new release!  With this mockup, the space is tuned more to those
types of posts.  Someone can easily take in the most recent information,
again without 'moving the page.'


As for what it can do better:

1) I don't really like the social media icons.  They seem to clutter up that
valuable 'upper right' real estate.  I would question how much use they will
get.  However, if we do decide that they belong, then I think the icons
themselves need to be desaturated.  These current colors are good for THEIR
respective brands, but totally destroy our color scheme, and our brand.
 Perhaps gray/black social media icons, that regain their color with a mouse
hover?

2) I would tend to agree with others that the mock-up feels busy.  I think
that the majority of this has to do with the font settings, and to a lesser
extent, certain page elements not lining up. (I'll post something later
showing what I mean)

I would submit that much 'breathing room' could be created by using a
tighter editorial writing style coupled with a larger line height, and
greater margins/padding.

A quick example - within the 'what is ubuntu' section:

Watch the YouTube video for a quick explanation of what Ubuntu Studio
offers or look at the feature walkthrough for a more in depth exploration of
the features available in Ubuntu Studio.

This feels wordy, and could possibly be removed or rewritten to something
more succinct:

Explore what Ubuntu Studio can do for you

 ** A link to the walk-though would be included.  As for the youtube video,
having that video right there with the 'play' button ready to go, is more
than enough prompting for most people.

Summary :  All in all I think this shows some merit, with more work needed
on the actual wording, along with spacing the text correctly, and
better alignment of the various page elements.

I'll throw in a little design time this weekend, once I get a hold
on Scott's svg.  Good work guys!

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Audio/Video/Graphical Package Selection for Natty Narwhal

2010-10-05 Thread Scott Lavender

Hello all,

Recently we have been begun reevaluating the audio, video, and graphical
package selection for Ubuntu Studio.  I think many would agree that some the
current packages seems disquietingly unfocused, unrelated or disparate, not
supporting any particular process or task.

For Natty Narwhal we would like develop a much leaner, streamlined, focused,
and useful audio, video, and graphical package selection.  And you can help
develop it!  This is your chance to directly effect the package selection
for Ubuntu Studio.

If you wish to discuss non-audio, video, or graphical packages, say Pulse
Audio or which PDF viewer is included, then please start another thread.
The focus of this email is for refining the audio, video, and graphical
package selection set only.


Our chosen methodology to effect this is to identify tasks and develop
workflows to accomplish the task.  Tasks are generalized objectives and
the workflow will then identify which applications are required.  Please
note that multiple, alternative workflows could be defined to accomplish the
same task and that multiple applications might be required for a particular
workflow.

A very direct and simple taks might be to Create a Poster/Flier.  The
associated workflow would be to start Inkscape, add graphics from the clip
library, and text as desired.  The application required would simply be
Inkscape.  While a more complicated, involved task might be Recording Audio
with Plugin Effects.  The workflow would be to start jack and Ardour,
connect the audio input to the track in Ardour, add the LV2 plugin into the
track, and record the audio with the effect.  The applications required
would be qjackctl, jackd, ardour, and various LADSPA/LV2 plugins.


You are highly encouraged to participate by evaluating what is done,
correcting any definitive errors, adding alternate workflows, and adding
additional tasks and workflows.  You can find existing tasks and workflows
at the following wiki page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows

I would ask that a few conditions be observed:
 * do not delete others work (this is highly important)
 * feel free to correct obvious errors, but respect differing viewpoints
 * provide alternate workflow if you have a different process
 * do not include partial or incomplete workflows


Partial or incomplete workflows will most likely not be considered.  We
should be striving to provide complete functionality.


The time frame to complete the initial selection will be before the end of
October.  This hopefully will provide time to update the seeds and
meta-packages so we can begin testing Natty with the new package selections
at the beginning of the release cycle.

I am excited about this prospect and I hope you participate to help make
Ubuntu Studio better.

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Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-05 Thread Scott Lavender

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Benjamin Turner 
passionsplaydes...@gmail.com wrote:

 In response to Scott's original mockup:
 http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png

 Good work Scott!

 So, starting with what works:

 1) I like that things have been moved up the page.  The old site was
 pretty, but simple, with specific information at least a scroll's length
 down the page.

 2) Navigation wise, I would say that someone that lands here has the
 potential of getting their bearings quickly.  The global nav is
 easily accessible in the upper right, along with lower level categories on
 the left being easily skimmed by the eye without having to 'move' the page.


 3) On the old site the blog entries were pretty small, closer to tweets --
 Look a new release!  With this mockup, the space is tuned more to those
 types of posts.  Someone can easily take in the most recent information,
 again without 'moving the page.'


 As for what it can do better:

 1) I don't really like the social media icons.  They seem to clutter up
 that valuable 'upper right' real estate.  I would question how much use they
 will get.  However, if we do decide that they belong, then I think the icons
 themselves need to be desaturated.  These current colors are good for THEIR
 respective brands, but totally destroy our color scheme, and our brand.
  Perhaps gray/black social media icons, that regain their color with a mouse
 hover?

 2) I would tend to agree with others that the mock-up feels busy.  I think
 that the majority of this has to do with the font settings, and to a lesser
 extent, certain page elements not lining up. (I'll post something later
 showing what I mean)

 I would submit that much 'breathing room' could be created by using a
 tighter editorial writing style coupled with a larger line height, and
 greater margins/padding.

 A quick example - within the 'what is ubuntu' section:

 Watch the YouTube video for a quick explanation of what Ubuntu Studio
 offers or look at the feature walkthrough for a more in depth exploration of
 the features available in Ubuntu Studio.

 This feels wordy, and could possibly be removed or rewritten to something
 more succinct:

 Explore what Ubuntu Studio can do for you

  ** A link to the walk-though would be included.  As for the youtube video,
 having that video right there with the 'play' button ready to go, is more
 than enough prompting for most people.

 Summary :  All in all I think this shows some merit, with more work needed
 on the actual wording, along with spacing the text correctly, and
 better alignment of the various page elements.

 I'll throw in a little design time this weekend, once I get a hold
 on Scott's svg.  Good work guys!

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First I would like to point out that my mock-up is just a suggestion.  This
isn't necessarily the direction we have to go.  If someone has something
they want to share then please do so.  Or if someone has something they have
been working on, then please post a screen shot as well.

Secondly I would like to agree with many of the assessments.  My inspiration
was originally very simple, almost elegant, and my mock-up grew way to
busy.  As to the font size or syntax, I fear that I lack the experience as a
website designer to make something elegant.

My feelings toward what audience the website should be focused is probably a
person unfamiliar with Ubuntu Studio.  Someone who has heard about it
perhaps but doesn't really understand it yet, or did a Google search for
free audio distribution.  I expect some experienced people will attend the
site as well, but probably will already know where to find answers or
tutorials or help directly without the website and therefore need it less.
So I feel the audience are to be musicians, new to Ubuntu Studio who wish to
learn about it so they can use it, and the website's voice would be
learn.

Lastly, here is my .svg file:
http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.svg

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Re: Sporadic UI halts on Meerkat Netbook - how to debug

2010-10-05 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat

Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 à 10:51 +0200, frederik.nn...@gmail.com a
écrit :
 AIUI todays default user interface to the linux kernel is a GUI, the
 DE in our case here.
 If the DE itself can not rely on a minimum of CPU and memory resources
 to be reserved for it, how can we assume that it will ever be reliable
 itself?
 
 It is easy to defer this problem to another list, but it is equally
 clear that this problem extends over all areas related to UI, DE or
 the underlying architectures..
There's nothing specially related to GUIs in this problem, I think
that's a bug in the kernel. So I'm not deferring the problem to another
list, I'm just saying that there's no hope the desktop team will fix
it, and the only option is to discuss this with kernel developers. Have
a look at the bug report I linked to, and you'll see that's the only
guarantee to avoid talking with nobody listening...


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Suddenly very slow to start

2010-10-05 Thread David Bowskill

Hello Fellow Ubuntu Users

For some strange reason my Ubuntu 10.04 has suddenly become very slow to
boot.
I tried to repair the system at boot ( pressing escape)  and then
selected 'repair broken packages'.

I have tried the above several times but still keep getting error
messages as follows:

usb 1-4 device descriptor read/64,  error -110
unable to enumerate usb device on port 4
unable to enumerate usb device on port 5

It also thinks that there is a program still running, although it has
started from cold.

Can anyone tell me what these mean and how I can fix them ?

Thanks very much

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Re: Suddenly very slow to start

2010-10-05 Thread David Fawcett

Hey Dave,

Do you have an external USB hard drive plugged into the machine?

If so can you try unplugging it and rebooting to see if it still
starts up slowly?

If not can you please open the termal and type: lsusb

And please copy and paste the results?

On 5 October 2010 23:44, David Bowskill david...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 Hello Fellow Ubuntu Users

 For some strange reason my Ubuntu 10.04 has suddenly become very slow to
 boot.
 I tried to repair the system at boot ( pressing escape)  and then
 selected 'repair broken packages'.

 I have tried the above several times but still keep getting error
 messages as follows:

 usb 1-4 device descriptor read/64,  error -110
 unable to enumerate usb device on port 4
 unable to enumerate usb device on port 5

 It also thinks that there is a program still running, although it has
 started from cold.

 Can anyone tell me what these mean and how I can fix them ?

 Thanks very much

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Telstra Next G USB Modem and Ubuntu 10.04

2010-10-05 Thread onetruth

Hi,

Can anyone direct me to a link that might help me connect with my
Telstra NextG USB Modem through Ubuntu 10.04?

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Re: Telstra Next G USB Modem and Ubuntu 10.04

2010-10-05 Thread Jared Norris

On 4 October 2010 19:07, onetruth troyslibr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone direct me to a link that might help me connect with my
 Telstra NextG USB Modem through Ubuntu 10.04?

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Hi there,

The first place I would look for to start on this would be
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/WirelessBroadbandInformation

As a team we have tried to generate some information on locally
available products for all to share. If your device is not listed on
the wiki page or the information there isn't helping just let us know
what model or type of USB modem you have (there are several models)
because they are all slightly different. It is usually written on the
device somewhere in small print.

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Re: Promoting Ubuntu

2010-10-05 Thread Paul Whipp

To discuss this prior to the meeting:

My suggestion is this:

We prepare, advertise and give a 30minute presentation to 12-24 people at a
time. They can bring their own machines. For the remaining time ?1.5 hours,
we help them test and hopefully install Ubuntu.

In short:
Starting in Brisbane (North or CBD because that is where I can get to
easily) but hopefully extending this further if it works well.

The target audience is small business professional or home users who use
their computers every day but who are not geeks or technical people.

I could prepare/source the 15m presentation which gives a user overview of
browsing/office/evolution - the 90% desktop functionality. Then ?15m
questions with prepared photo, movie watching, torrent +? responses. I'd
need some reviewers.

We prepare an ad. We're aiming primarily to convert MS Windows users so we
need something catchy and simple for the ad. This will need some
brainstorming, It needs to appeal to our target audience.

In the session we would probably need 3 of us present skilled in Ubuntu
Installation.

This idea could possibly be merged with promoting Ubuntu to charitable
organisations - For them we offer them attendance for free. It would make
them more likely to show an interest because they could see that they are
getting something that others have to pay for.

Any thoughts?


Regards,
Paul Whipp

Office: 07 3103 2894
Mobile: 0410 545 357

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On 27 September 2010 10:22, Paul Whipp paul.wh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there,

 I've been using Ubuntu for work and play since 8.04.

 I am interested in getting more people to use ubuntu because it is better
 for them than the alternatives.

 I have been thinking about preparing a presentation and inviting people to
 come to it. After introducing Ubuntu and going over its use/benefits (focus
 on browsing/open office/email) people could try ubuntu and get instant help
 installing it if they have brought their laptops etc. along. I would need a
 couple of helpers who can speak non-geek and help with the installation
 issues and hand holding. I would aim for 12-24 attendees.

 I am new to this list  community so forgive me if this is obvious:

 I was going to post this as an agenda item for the next irc meeting but,
 while I can edit old meeting pages, the place where it says to add agenda
 items for the next meeting is on an immutable page (
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings). Am I missing something
 there?


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Re: Suddenly very slow to start

2010-10-05 Thread David Bowskill

Thanks for reply Dave.
There are no devices plugged into any  USB port (apart from the mouse)
although the effect did seem to first arise when I was using a USB stick
some while ago.
I have run 'lsusb' in a terminal and the results are as below:

da...@djb-p4:~$ lsusb
Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0461:4d01 Primax Electronics, Ltd Comfort Keyboard
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass
Storage Device
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
da...@djb-p4:~$

Thanks for your help

David Bowskill



On 06/10/10 00:07, David Fawcett wrote:
 Hey Dave,

 Do you have an external USB hard drive plugged into the machine?

 If so can you try unplugging it and rebooting to see if it still
 starts up slowly?

 If not can you please open the termal and type: lsusb

 And please copy and paste the results?

 On 5 October 2010 23:44, David Bowskill david...@tpg.com.au wrote:
   
 Hello Fellow Ubuntu Users

 For some strange reason my Ubuntu 10.04 has suddenly become very slow to
 boot.
 I tried to repair the system at boot ( pressing escape)  and then
 selected 'repair broken packages'.

 I have tried the above several times but still keep getting error
 messages as follows:

 usb 1-4 device descriptor read/64,  error -110
 unable to enumerate usb device on port 4
 unable to enumerate usb device on port 5

 It also thinks that there is a program still running, although it has
 started from cold.

 Can anyone tell me what these mean and how I can fix them ?

 Thanks very much

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Re: Suddenly very slow to start

2010-10-05 Thread David Bowskill

Many thanks to the two David's who replied to me.
The command 'lsusb I was not aware of, and with the '-v' switch,
provides a mass of data (not sure what it all means) about the USB
connected devices.
This is the great thing about the Linux (especially Ubuntu) Community -
the great sense of camerade and willing help that is shared around.
I belong to a 'Mens Shed' and we have a computer club which at present
is based on the 'dark' side. My aim is to convert as many as possible to
the 'light' (Linux).
To this end I am very much interested in what Paul Whipp is suggesting
to promote Ubuntu - more strength to his elbow !
Many thanks again
David Bowskill

On 06/10/10 15:03, David Whyte wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, David Bowskill david...@tpg.com.au wrote:
   
 Thanks for reply Dave.
 There are no devices plugged into any  USB port (apart from the mouse)
 although the effect did seem to first arise when I was using a USB stick
 some while ago.
 I have run 'lsusb' in a terminal and the results are as below:

 da...@djb-p4:~$ lsusb
 Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0461:4d01 Primax Electronics, Ltd Comfort Keyboard
 Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass
 Storage Device
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 da...@djb-p4:~$

 
 Hi,

 Just thought as another David, I could add to this thread :)

 It looks like the line...

   
 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass
 Storage Device
 
 ...is an internal media card reader.  Do you have a card in the
 internal reader when you boot?  If so, try removing that before boot
 up.

 There are ways to boot in safe mode or recovery mode or something too,
 which shows all the startup messages scrolling up the screen.  If you
 get there, you may see some errors about what the problem is.

 Cheers,
 Whytey



   

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Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans

El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 00:43 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va
escriure:
I have three ideas for better user experience and for improve getting
translations back to upstream.

Hi Fran,

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Again, these are requests for new
Launchpad features, and while they are absolutely valid requests, that
was not the primary intention of this thread.

Let me comment on your suggestions:

I'm coordinating the Galician translators team of GNOME, and I found a
lot of strings that have been changed in Launchpad, some of them were
bugfixes unreported upstream. So to improve this I propose:

- Group diferent templates from the
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+lang/gl page by
project (Ubuntu related, GNOME project, KDE project, Translation
project, ...). This will help translators/coordinators to focus in one
particular area of translations.

That's something we definitely need, although it is not something the
Launchpad developers will be able to work on in the near future. I hope
I've managed to explain why on previous replies on this thread: it's a
matter of allocating development resources to priorities, but I'll be
happy to explain it again if you feel there is the need to.

We also had a Google Summer of Code project proposal (along with other
ones for Launchpad Translations, scroll down on the list), but
unfortunately no student had the time or interest to pick it up:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2010/Ideas#Package%20set%20views%20in%20Launchpad%20Translations

- Where and how to send to upstream: For each group will be very
helpful have one page explaining how and where to submit translations to
upstream. For example, there are a lot of templates completed in LP from
Translation Project and in TP continue untranslated.

We do not have this integrated in Launchpad. In the future, it would be
useful to have it, but better still, we should have an automated or
semi-automated way to send to upstreams (note that I'm not saying it's
going to be like that, there are no plans for an implementation yet:
this is only one of the ideas that have been thrown around). For
example, when submitting a translation back to the TP it should be sent
to the TP robot; for GNOME, it should land on damned lies for review,
etc.

At the moment, the upstream pages in the wiki cover this purpose as a
workaround:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream

Until there is a way to handle this in Launchpad automatically, I'd
suggest to keep maintaining those pages, and I'd like to ask for
everyone's help in updating them.

There is good information on GNOME and KDE, but some other upstream
pages are in need of some love. If you find out information on how to
send translations to a particular upstream that is not already in there,
please feel free to add it. With this you'll be helping all other
translation teams.

Some of you have told me on IRC about suggestions for better finding
upstreams. I think it was Andrej from the Slovenian team that said that
an alphabetical list of upstreams would be helpful. If anyone wants to
work on implementing anything like this, any modifications will be more
than welcome.

- Export strings changed in launchpad. Allow to export one pofile from
template with the changed strings in LP.

That's already possible nowadays:

http://blog.launchpad.net/translations/partial-po-export-holding-post

You can export a PO file in a given language with only the changes in
Launchpad and Ubuntu-specific strings.

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

Regards.

O Xov, 16-09-2010 ás 19:17 +0200, David Planella escribiu:
Hi all,

In the Community team at Canonical we are now starting to lay out the
plans for the 11.04 roadmap for translations.

For this, we really value your input and would very much like to take
your ideas and feedback into account.

One of the key areas I'd like to work on in this cycle, for instance, is
outreach: we want to bang the drum and get people excited and involved
in translations.

What are your thoughts and ideas? What do you think we should focus on?

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

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2010-10-05 Thread Tom Davies

Hi :)

I just tried to forward this message from LibreOffice Mailing List although you 
have probably got this already.  Just in case though ... 




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From: 
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To: 
 disc...@documentfoundation.org,  l...@libreoffice.org,  
annou...@documentfoundation.orgHi,

the mailing list for translation related work l...@libreoffice.org is up and 
running.

Subscription works as for the other lists:
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inital 
infrastructure ... please subscribe to the list.

As we are translators and our workflow is related to the development, please 
subscribe to libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org as well. This might help to get 
a 
common understanding of developer and translators :)


For people who are waiting for more lists: they will be created soon.

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Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans

El dt 05 de 10 de 2010 a les 06:55 +0200, en/na Jonathan Aquilina va
escriure:
 David my idea was rather simple have a screen shot. then translators
 can translate it in lp and on the screenshot and it directly edits the
 po file on the back end with out the user having to touch it. Also
 translators can see how the strings will look prior to release. 
 
 
 i would more then willingly help but i have lots on my plate at the
 moment.
 

Hi Jonathan,

That is indeed a great idea, but the message that I was trying to convey
is that every idea implies a responsibility, which I believe specially
holds true for Open Source. Everyone in here has great ideas, but the
hard part is crossing the brainstorming stage and doing the
implementation, and it generally takes someone to lead the effort.

If you'd like to contribute to that, that'd be awesome. The next step
I'd suggest would be to write a specification and then we can take it
from there.

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM, David Planella
 david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 El dg 03 de 10 de 2010 a les 09:43 +0200, en/na Yaron
 Shahrabani va
 escriure:
  I think we should add it to the roadmap, any objections?
  Yaron Shahrabani
 
  Hebrew translator
 
 
 Hi Yaron,
 
 As mentioned before, the roadmap is for projects or objectives
 related
 primarily to the translations community.
 
 While this would certainly provide a big benefit to the
 translations
 community, it is mainly a Launchpad Translations feature
 request. Even
 then, it might make sense to add it to the roadmap.
 
 However, I feel that this would be a significant piece of
 work, probably
 spanning several Ubuntu cycles, and the use case and
 specification are
 still a bit vague. It is also not clear to me who'd be willing
 to lead
 and contribute to this effort, which would also mean getting
 familiar
 with Launchpad development and its code base and how it is
 designed.
 With this in mind, I think I'd prefer not to add it to the
 roadmap.
 
 Please don't feel discouraged about this. If you would like to
 work on
 this either by developing it or coordinating it, feel free to
 go on.
 You'll certainly have the support of the Launchpad development
 team.
 However, I'd first recommend to write a complete specification
 about the
 feature and its implementation, as I believe it to be
 essential for any
 development work planning.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Regards,
 David.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Ofir Klinger
 klinger.o...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  I think it is a great idea!
 
 
  When I translated Amarok (upstream) I opened Amarok
 in my
  language and marked the untranslated strings in
 Amarok. Then I
  searched for them in the po file and translated
 them.
  Many strings were impossible to translate right
 without the
  context, as different languages as different ways to
 the same
  thing.
 
 
  I am all for it, and I am willing to help updating
 the
  screenshots.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
  eagles051...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just thought of another idea.
 
  Would it be possible then with those images
 to have
  the po files attached so that translators
 can updated
  them there directly, and see how they will
 look on the
  ui of a particular program?
 
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Yaron
 Shahrabani
  sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Its all a matter of seconds, once
 the feature
  is available the translators will
 find it
  useful and will be motivated to use
 it, it's
  just like translating a software
 with a
  resource editor which is way easier
 than
  translating a po file
  Yaron Shahrabani
  Hebrew translator

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans

El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 10:18 +1200, en/na John Barstow va
escriure:
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:17 AM, David Planella
 david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  What are your thoughts and ideas? What do you think we should focus on?
 
 
 I would like the ability to easily locate short, non-technical strings
 to translate. Taking GTK as an example module, the first string people
 see is Error parsing option --gdk-debug. It would be much easier to
 persuade people to contribute if the first string was something like
 _Add (actually any of the stock labels in that module). Searching
 for add brings up 11 results; the obvious one is result #5.
 
 I believe that anything we can do to make it easier to locate and
 translate commands, labels, and menu items will go a long way to help
 build up confidence in new or casual contributors.

Thanks John for your useful feedback.

There have been a couple of similar suggestions (or at least in that
direction) in the translators list.

This would require non-trivial development work in Launchpad, i.e.
implementing a new feature. As with other technical requests, if you've
got any further ideas regarding the implementation, I'd suggest opening
a separate thread either in ubuntu-translators or launchpad-dev and take
it from there.

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

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Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans

2010-10-05 Thread Milo Casagrande

Hi David,

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 20:06, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 12:06 +0200, en/na Milo Casagrande va

 Maybe, as a short-term goal, I was thinking about reaching out
 translator teams, and ask them if they have story to share about how,
 a translated version of Ubuntu, has helped people/companies/schools in
 a particular way, something that a non-translated version couldn't
 have achieved, and share their story on the Fridge, pointing out how
 important is the translators work.

 I really like this idea, I think it would be good to start a coordinated
 effort to publish stories for each translation team. I'm planning to
 have a UDS session on this.

Good, looking forward to attend that session!


  We should probably try to have more
 translators on the hall-of-fame,

 We haven't updated the Hall Of Fame for a while, so the status of the
 HoF is right now on hold, unless someone finds the time to step up and
 help maintaining it. That's the reason why we haven't been adding any
 rockstar contributors (be it in translation or in any area).

Hmmm... maybe we need to ask the community to help out with that:
having a small team of dedicated people that can maintain the HoF.
Will it be possible to open the maintainance of the HoF also to
community members?

  and start publishing more translators
 interview.

 We should be publishing the interviews monthly, but there seems to have
 been some delay in the last one. It's been hectic lately with the
 preparation of several OpenWeek, AppDeveloperWeek and such events, but
 I'll try to see if we can unblock it and start publishing the next batch
 of interviews.

I saw a new one on the Fridge yesterday, but again, like for the HoF,
maybe opening it up to other community members, maybe translators
members in this case, could help it a little bit.

 I would really like to see a community-driven web portal where
 translator groups (but not only them) can get together, a sort-of
 Language Portal like Microsoft has, but better and open-source:
 http://www.microsoft.com/Language/en-US/Default.aspx

 Despite all attempts to structure the contents on the Translations
 namespace and to simplify the main page so that people can easily find
 the info they need (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/), the wiki has
 grown too big for being able to store all the content related to
 translations and present it to new users in a way that is both easy to
 use and attractive.

 I've been discussing this with Jono, and also looking at the awesome
 work my team mate Ahmed has been doing on a Cloud Portal, and I think it
 is the time for a Translations Portal.

Is this something that is already public? Just to take a peek at it...
If not, doesn't matter! ;-)

 The idea of the portal is to have a site on
 http://translations.ubuntu.com that can serve to aggregate and showcase
 the current content related to Ubuntu Translations with the main
 purposes of:

      * Inspiring and getting new contributors excited about
        translations
      * Be used as a spring board for anyone to easily get started to
        translating Ubuntu

 That is something which I would also like to focus on this cycle, and I
 would encourage anyone to give a hand to make the Ubuntu translations
 experience even more awesome.

 I find the suggestion of hosting a glossary and a discussion forum good
 ideas, but that is something that will require some development or
 infrastructure work. For the first phase, I'd like to focus on building
 a functional portal and aggregating some basic information: # News and
 announcements, Articles on translations, Translations quick start guide,
 Links to reference documentation on the wiki, Microblogging,
 Presentation video, Videos on how to get started with translations, etc.

 I'll also be adding a UDS session for that.

 What do you think?

Totally agree with you on the basic features at the beginning: more
advanced features (glossary, vocabulary or whatever pop-ups in our
minds) could be developed as time passes by, and we better understand
where we should focus our strengths. If this is going to be more a
community-driven effort, one or two advanced features per release
cycle could be a good goal (based also on the number of people
involved and the difficulty of the tasks).

I personally think the wiki is getting more difficult to maintain, and
information is getting buried under a lot of click-paths. The supposed
translation portal should go under a thorough content strategy and
restructure.

I'm not very fond of videos, but that's me. I tend to think that to
have a good quality video is not easy, and also it's not easy to
localize them (as long as we don't provide closed captionings; we can
maybe argue that it's a translators portal and people should be
accostumed using Elnglish, but translators are proud to have as much
as they can translated in their language :-)

Really looking forward to discuss this at UDS!

Help with the Community Review

Hi translators,

I would like to ask for your help in a new initiative.

Quoting Jono:

[...] as we have grown, I feel the typical community onboarding
experience, that is, getting new people involved, has become overly
complex. As such, I am kicking off an initiative with some of my fellow
community members to identify areas in which we can fix this.

In short, we are trying to assess how to make it easier to new
contributors to participate to Ubuntu in different areas. 

You'll find more information here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010

We'd like to ask 5 new (or relatively new) members to the translations
community to answer some really simple questions, which we'll use as
feedback to identify what we need to fix or improve.

So what I would like to ask you is to forward these questions to any of
your team members that might have started to contribute recently and to
send me an e-mail with the answers at
david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com. I'll then process the data and
I'll publish it on that wiki page, removing the name of the submitter in
case he/she does not want it published.

Here are the questions:

Translations


  * How did you learn about this part of the community?
  * What attracted you to this type of participation?
  * Where did you look first for information on getting involved?
  * Did you feel the places you looked for information were useful?
If not, how could we improve?
  * When learning skills and content for participating, were the
resources you used useful? If not, how could we improve?
  * What recommendations would you make for improving your
experience in our community?

Do you think you could give a hand with that?

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

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DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels

Hi,

I really need of someone could take care of a little wiki page about
all real time kernels (differences, reasons, TODO, list of volunteers,
packing status and so on). In this way new comers could find reply to
their questions.

Moreover a bit of interest exist for video closed drivers. Is there a
volunteer to handle DKMS packages?
I could provide all relevant code which fix compatibility with real
time kernels but I don't enough time to handle uploading that code
(that is sending patch to nvidia or fglrx Ubuntu maintainer or upload
a fix package to PPA). In this way we could support closed video
drivers and in general all DKMS base drivers.

Ciao,
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Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)

2010-10-05 Thread Luke Yelavich

On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:27:02AM EST, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
 Hi,
 
 If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply
 to these questions:
 
 Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime?
 Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least
 test and feedback)?

Of course I'd prefer realtime/rt, however the truth of the matter is that 
keeping up with patches, and keeping the kernel versions in sync for any one 
Ubuntu release is very difficult. For this reason, I'd favour the lowlatency 
kernel, as it would be easier to maintain, given its only configuration 
changes, and would be easier to get into Ubuntu, and maintain it, keeping in 
sync with the Ubuntu release kernel version.

 How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu
 relation, Studio relation and so on)?

I'm happy to help maintain the low latency kernel, i.e using the Ubuntu release 
kernel git tree as a base, and making our own changes on top, and rebasing on 
the Ubuntu kernel for fixes. Can help get it into universe, and maintain it 
there.

 Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for
 that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS?

With the low latency kernel, I would be happy to support it for every Ubuntu 
release where it is in the archive.

Luke

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Re: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels

2010-10-05 Thread Luke Yelavich

On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 06:23:20PM EST, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
 Moreover a bit of interest exist for video closed drivers. Is there a
 volunteer to handle DKMS packages?
 I could provide all relevant code which fix compatibility with real
 time kernels but I don't enough time to handle uploading that code
 (that is sending patch to nvidia or fglrx Ubuntu maintainer or upload
 a fix package to PPA). In this way we could support closed video
 drivers and in general all DKMS base drivers.

I am willing to help apply patches to dkms driver packages, although won't 
necessarily have time/a chance to test them myself. Given sufficient testing, I 
am happy to get the patches uploaded, once they are known to be ok.

Luke

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Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)

Laurent,

2010/10/4 laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr:
 Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or 
 -realtime?
  Real time for audio, is there de difference beetween the three proposals ?

-lowlatency == -generic + more aggressive low latency kernel configuration
It can offers all things that Ubuntu offer with -generic so -backport
modules, video closed drivers and so on. It is very solid and oriented
to soft users. Trade-off between low latency and power consumption.

-rt == -generic + plus PREEMPT_RT patchset (this is the realtime Linux)
It would want offer the same but require a lot of works. it would want
be aligned with -generic version but it can't be able. It isn't very
solid and it is oriented to hard users only. Power consumption is a
secondary concern.

-realtime == vanilla (kernel.org) + plus PREEMPT_RT patchset (this is
the realtime Linux)
It don't be interested neither to be aligned with -generic kernel nor
be compatible with all closed video rivers shipped (and worked) with
Ubuntu. It don't provide -backport drivers. it is very stable and it
is oriented to hard users only. Power consumption is a secondary
concern.

Ciao,
Alessio

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Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)