[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
I have reset my wireless router and reconfigured the settings on the router, I first tested Feisty without the need to have a WEP key for connection and all seemed fine. I then added the WEP key settings and so far it is still functioning correctly. You could try reseting your routers and set it back up. Your wireless may return to normality again. -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Yes Flossgeek, There's a lot that's difficult to understand and I certainly don't understand enough to make any real comment accept that all problems disappear on both Win Xp and UBuntu when I connect to the wireless router with a wire ! OK at least the logic implies it can't be UBuntu specific. ATB /Melvyn On 3/30/07, flossgeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes something isn't quite right, and the network is getting confused > somewhere, I think its network-manager but I dont want to put blame on > that with out a definate reason for why! > > I have also noticed netowork-manager tries to first connect to my > neighbours wireless router which is open, then when I select, my > wireless network it says it has reconnected but no connection when I try > to browse web pages or download a package using apt-get. > > We need some logs of some sort, we can presume all day long but without > debugging or getting some outputs how can we find the bug? > > We have two weeks to go before release, lets get this sorted. Has anyone > tried removing network manager and then just use network admin, to see > if this works. > > Could it be a DHCP resolve type issue between different networks? > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Yes something isn't quite right, and the network is getting confused somewhere, I think its network-manager but I dont want to put blame on that with out a definate reason for why! I have also noticed netowork-manager tries to first connect to my neighbours wireless router which is open, then when I select, my wireless network it says it has reconnected but no connection when I try to browse web pages or download a package using apt-get. We need some logs of some sort, we can presume all day long but without debugging or getting some outputs how can we find the bug? We have two weeks to go before release, lets get this sorted. Has anyone tried removing network manager and then just use network admin, to see if this works. Could it be a DHCP resolve type issue between different networks? -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Hi Flossgeek, There's more to this stuff than meets the eye, when I connect (wireless) to our wireless router with a file share client (bit comet etc) it will break the effective connection though it will still show a running ok in the task bar. This happens in both Windows and Ubuntu, if I take a cable and connect to the wireless router all is well. This presumably has nothing directly to do with the Ubuntu wireless but is none the less weird. Best regards /melvyn On 3/29/07, flossgeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its a strange one for me it is irregular sometimes it works other times > it doesn't. I do find by hard reseting my wireless router seems to make > it work again. > > I have the following installed too:- > > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-13-generic > linux-restricted-modules-common > linux-restricted-modules-generic > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Its a strange one for me it is irregular sometimes it works other times it doesn't. I do find by hard reseting my wireless router seems to make it work again. I have the following installed too:- linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-generic -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
for general information - the fix is to install the restricted package. the driver is restricted, in the way ubuntu can distribute it, so needs to be in the linux-restricted-modules. For understanding packages being kept back, you may want to look at man apt-get - it explains a lot more of this. By the way, it's not a problem in not understanding something - don't take it personally. Just look for the way to understand it, and research it a bit if you're interested, so you know for next time. This bugtracker isnt a substitute for support on how apt works, for example - the manual pages will tell you that, along with various other documentation on the internet. :) -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
That Bug's taking a walk ! Sarah's advise to update the kernel and install the restricted package seemed to fix my Dell with a Pro/Wireless 2200BG. That was probably a kernel ago now. Let's hope there will be a real solution as it looks like this card is pretty ubiquitous. Regards /Melvyn On 3/28/07, flossgeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have an IBM Thinkpad with the PRO/Wireless 2200BG card, has functioned > perfectly until now. Network manager does connect, asks for my keyring > password and connects according to the icon. I see a strong signal > strength, and it reports that it is connected. > > If i do a ping everything seems fine, however browsing in Firefox fails > most of the time (pages dont load). The same happens with apt-get if i > do an update for example it just doesn't connect. > > It does work okay sometimes though, but most of time will drop out > although it reports its still connected. > > Any logs needed please let us know I will happily provide them. > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
I have an IBM Thinkpad with the PRO/Wireless 2200BG card, has functioned perfectly until now. Network manager does connect, asks for my keyring password and connects according to the icon. I see a strong signal strength, and it reports that it is connected. If i do a ping everything seems fine, however browsing in Firefox fails most of the time (pages dont load). The same happens with apt-get if i do an update for example it just doesn't connect. It does work okay sometimes though, but most of time will drop out although it reports its still connected. Any logs needed please let us know I will happily provide them. -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Thanks Chris, I was beginning to take it personally. Sarah wrote and told me off as well for using a development version ! But... ATB4Now /Melvyn On 3/26/07, Chris Puttick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also breaks Samsung and presume any laptop with the same wireless > chipset. Mine was an upgrade from Edgy using the new updater, and failed > to upgrade the linux-restricted-modules-generic, marking the new one as > "held back", along with: > > libstrigihtmlgui0 linux-headers-generic strigi-client strigi-daemon > > No idea what "held back" means, it was not a consultative process. > Manually installing linux-restricted-modules-generic (in my case using > "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic") resolved the > problem. This would not be a good release version feature... > > BTW, Linuxing for 7 years, always on the bleeding edge, but only Ubuntu > since Edgy. > > Chris > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Also breaks Samsung and presume any laptop with the same wireless chipset. Mine was an upgrade from Edgy using the new updater, and failed to upgrade the linux-restricted-modules-generic, marking the new one as "held back", along with: libstrigihtmlgui0 linux-headers-generic strigi-client strigi-daemon No idea what "held back" means, it was not a consultative process. Manually installing linux-restricted-modules-generic (in my case using "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic") resolved the problem. This would not be a good release version feature... BTW, Linuxing for 7 years, always on the bleeding edge, but only Ubuntu since Edgy. Chris -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Needs Info => Fix Released -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Hi Benoit, Thanks again for your interest, Sarah's comments fixed the wireless connection problem on my Dell. I did see that although (when it was broken) I could choose the ESSID when I then listed the wireless properties it gave ESSID as nothing, no value. I don't know what that means or if it's significant. Best regards /Melvyn On 3/16/07, Benoit Malet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello ! > > I checked on my laptop ... In fact, kernel -11 is installed and > restricted modules also ... I have all the latest updates for all the > packages, but it still won't work ... > > I guess the WiFi card is still recognized, as in the properties I can > choose my network (ESSID) and it even gives me the quality of the signal > (86% at the moment). I'm certain my connection settings are OK and I use > DHCP. > > Just ask if you need to know more ... > > Regards, > Benoît > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Yes Sarah, It looked like herd 5 was well down the dev path but your point is solid. I am looking for a workstation that I can use as reference when "normal" people mention a MS Windows alternative and UBuntu seems to me to be so close. Impatience got the better of me. Unfortunately I don't have much experience with NIX systems of any kind but I will keep looking at UBuntu, it is the system that runs the most with the minimum amount of adjustment and setting up. Thanks once again /Melvyn On 3/17/07, Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > could you define "wont work" if you can pick your essid, and you get a > quality of signal? presumably it wont let you view webpages or > something? > > Melvin, no problems :) You're going to run into these problems as you > run a development release, which is why people new to ubuntu should not > be running them, until they're released. > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Hello ! In GNOME, it just says "Disconnected" ... I see the picture of 2 screens on top right of my screen (with an attention mark), with the bar that should be green which is orange. So I guess it's not an issue with the driver for the card itself, but with how it's used/setup for Internet use ... It's not only Internet that won't come, it's just not connected to any network ... Hope this clarifies the situation ... (this is not really critical as the wired networking is OK) Regards, Benoît -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
could you define "wont work" if you can pick your essid, and you get a quality of signal? presumably it wont let you view webpages or something? Melvin, no problems :) You're going to run into these problems as you run a development release, which is why people new to ubuntu should not be running them, until they're released. -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Hello ! I checked on my laptop ... In fact, kernel -11 is installed and restricted modules also ... I have all the latest updates for all the packages, but it still won't work ... I guess the WiFi card is still recognized, as in the properties I can choose my network (ESSID) and it even gives me the quality of the signal (86% at the moment). I'm certain my connection settings are OK and I use DHCP. Just ask if you need to know more ... Regards, Benoît -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Thanks Sarah, Youra doll, I've been pulling this thinning hair out ! Best regards /Melvyn On 3/16/07, Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please upgrade to the -11 kernel (run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt- > get dist-upgrade again) > > Then, please install linux-restricted-modules-generic, and reboot the > machine, and see if this problem still occurs. > > This package normally gets installed when you run the installer - it can > just be a quirk of running the development release, while it's still in > development. > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Please upgrade to the -11 kernel (run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt- get dist-upgrade again) Then, please install linux-restricted-modules-generic, and reboot the machine, and see if this problem still occurs. This package normally gets installed when you run the installer - it can just be a quirk of running the development release, while it's still in development. -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Hi Sara, I've just understood the question please excuse the delay. The installed Kernel is 2.6.20-10-generic There is no sign of linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-generic Best regards /Melvyn On 3/16/07, Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-generic installed? > > ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) >Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Hi Benoit, The Ubuntu version is 7.04 The Kernal is 2.6.20-10-generiac Do let me know if it means anything Best regards Melvyn m On 3/16/07, Benoit Malet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello ! > > I faced exactly the same problem yesterday with a no-brand laptop with > exactly the same WiFi card. (Intel 2200BG) > > In fact, some of the kernel related packages were not installed (they > were updated this morning), so maybe it might come from inconsistencies > between kernel packages (some kernel packages installed and some not > installed) > > I had no time to test WiFi after the update of this morning, but I'll > check tonight if the problem is solved ... > > Regards, > Benoît > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-generic installed? ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.20 -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Thanks Benoit, Unfortunately since I have no network I can't get the kernal updates, maybe I could find a PC and download a new Feisty CD? All the best Melvyn M. On 3/16/07, Benoit Malet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello ! > > I faced exactly the same problem yesterday with a no-brand laptop with > exactly the same WiFi card. (Intel 2200BG) > > In fact, some of the kernel related packages were not installed (they > were updated this morning), so maybe it might come from inconsistencies > between kernel packages (some kernel packages installed and some not > installed) > > I had no time to test WiFi after the update of this morning, but I'll > check tonight if the problem is solved ... > > Regards, > Benoît > > -- > Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 > -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92748] Re: Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless
Hello ! I faced exactly the same problem yesterday with a no-brand laptop with exactly the same WiFi card. (Intel 2200BG) In fact, some of the kernel related packages were not installed (they were updated this morning), so maybe it might come from inconsistencies between kernel packages (some kernel packages installed and some not installed) I had no time to test WiFi after the update of this morning, but I'll check tonight if the problem is solved ... Regards, Benoît -- Latest Feisty Fawn Breaks Dell Laptop Intel Wireless https://launchpad.net/bugs/92748 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs