Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

[nilux]

On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 21:10 +0100, Conn wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote :

 
 Kith Intrepid is an interesting concept, but that's the problem - it's
 a concept. It has not developed beyond the mockup stage, and the
 actual mockups focus more on what would be coded in Metacity rather
 than GTK! We would need to see a sample application with actual
 widgets visible such as The Widget Factory to really know the style
 and intent of Kith.

According to the mockup's author, the real work is about to begin in a
few days, so I hope it can be ready in time..

 As for the buttons at the bottom of windows - it's not possible with
 GTK, as that area is reserved in applications (GtkStatusbar). This is
 another mockup that requires a major architectural change to GTK (and
 many applications) - and while it may be worth persuing, it's not
 likely to happen.
 
Actually I was focusing on the visual aspect of the theme and ignored
these buttons; it might be a good idea but it's not the themers work to
implement that kind of things ;)

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[ubuntu-art] // successful use of dark colours: 2 examples //

[Julian Oliver]

while we're on the topic of dark themes, i thought i'd feed a couple of
(publically successful) dark theme mockups back into the pool.

this very basic mockup represents good use of dark colours i think.
people responded to it very well in forums/blogs/digg: 

http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Mockup-Hardy-Heron-74511244

while i'm not taken with the window title style, i do think the artist
has done well to leverage dark colours with highlights that appear to be
cast by light. there is a logical continuity in the lighting model
he/she has used.

in this example darker colours are used to add vibrancy and depth rather
than simply to 'turn down the lights', reducing both clarity and
contrast overall.

this other mockup goes darker still while highlighting useability hints
with a brown/orange:


http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2007/323/0/b/Ubuntu_Theme_Mockup___Dark_by_bradwjensen.jpg

it is perhaps far too dark for general distribution of course.

nonetheless i think it is important to recognise those mockups Ubuntu
users have made that many other users respond very positively to. while
being far from feasible, it's my belief these mockups ought to be taken
as strong hints in a theme design process.

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[ubuntu-art] Some thoughts

[Duncan Austin]

Hi All,

I have some thoughts, for what they're worth, about the direction and
concepts that Intrepid could take.

Firstly, if we're going to go orange then I think we should be careful about
going too orange. A theme should stay in the background and enhance the
focal point, ie the content. An overwhelming, or high contrast theme is a
distraction - no matter how pretty it is. Orange is not a background colour!
I think it should be the foreground colour - ie title text, titlebar buttons
- close, minimize etc. This would also make the orange more striking,
instead if drowning the user in it.

Ever listened to a beautiful Chopin? Where it ends with a note, a pause,
then solfly, the final note - perfection. This last note is what a theme
should feel like. This is what Apple consistantly get right.

Secondly, we seem to be thinking along the lines of What does an Ibex look
like? as a cue for the themes. Perhaps we should be thinking about What is
it like to be an Ibex?.

I think Intrepid provides a great opportunity to break the mold and take
that last note from Apple! What does an Ibex see when it opens its eyes up
there in the mountains? What does it feel like to breathe that crisp, clean
mountain air? Or munch on that green grass or drink that clear, icy water?

Feel like perfection? I think so.

I've uploaded a screenshot of my current theme which is along these lines at
http://readitsideways.com/screenshot.jpg

This is based on the googol theme at gnome-look.org so the titlebar buttons
are googlish, but perhaps we could take a cue from the Ubuntu logo and also
use circles, but in the logo colours and make the circle thickness the same
as the logo's circle thickness?

If anyone else thinks that this is a direction worth persuing I'll do a mock
up, and then a theme.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] // successful use of dark colours: 2 examples //

[shadowh511]

I think we need to have both a bright theme for newbies and a darker theme
for the more experienced

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

[Salane Ashcraft]

Well the windows buttons would have to go, and the colors would have to be
different. Ken and I discussed, along with in put from Shuttleworth, having
a lighter theme and a darker theme. Mark wants to retain most o the colors
from the current Human for the lighter theme...
Keep on working though. I think what will end up happening is some concepts
will be chosen, guidelines will be made, then the art team will work on the
project as a whole to make sure it gets done.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:59 AM, nilux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 21:10 +0100, Conn wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote :

 
  Kith Intrepid is an interesting concept, but that's the problem - it's
  a concept. It has not developed beyond the mockup stage, and the
  actual mockups focus more on what would be coded in Metacity rather
  than GTK! We would need to see a sample application with actual
  widgets visible such as The Widget Factory to really know the style
  and intent of Kith.

 According to the mockup's author, the real work is about to begin in a
 few days, so I hope it can be ready in time..

  As for the buttons at the bottom of windows - it's not possible with
  GTK, as that area is reserved in applications (GtkStatusbar). This is
  another mockup that requires a major architectural change to GTK (and
  many applications) - and while it may be worth persuing, it's not
  likely to happen.
 
 Actually I was focusing on the visual aspect of the theme and ignored
 these buttons; it might be a good idea but it's not the themers work to
 implement that kind of things ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need gtkrc help. Panel effect for Studio theme.

[Cory K.]

Who wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi all. I'm tinkering with the Feisty Studio theme. Thinking of bringing
 it back with a facelift. I need help getting a look though.
 

 Hey Cory,

 I assume you've tried editing the same styles that you're applying to
 the panel elements to get the background to also draw button
 backgrounds that will blend in seamlessly?


I guess what I'm trying to do is skin the inactive buttons on the
window List applet. So I gotta see how to find that class.

I am skinning the panel in a way similar to the link you provide but
adding some of the classes in that post also add bugs to some dialog boxes.

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Re: How to install Ubuntu Linux from USB Stick from Windows Vista

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 03.07.2008, 20:49 -0400 schrieb jason bronson:

 169.254.0.0/16 (Micro$haft range)
thats a myth ... might be that they used it first, 
but its a general link-local range, defined in rfc3330
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3330
since usage of zeroconf by apple and avahi on linux these adresses are
quite commonly used in many non MS OSes (and very very helpful for
various autodetection features) 

dont just damn it for its first user ;)

ciao
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I wanted to pose two questions to the group. And this group as I am a
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First is a general nature of the list repartee question: Would it be
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I find it at this point such a drudge to have to cognitively deal with it,
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amount of MSFT bashing nonsense.

I am wondering if this list could serve as a power of example to the rest of
the OSS community that personal religious, emotional, and political rants
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engineering perspective, do not reflect well on the OSS or Ubuntu
communities, and are exceedingly off-putting to me, for whatever that is
worth, as someone who is trying to participate in the Ubuntu and wider OSS
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Can't connect to wireless networks

[Rafael Cardenas]

Hello, thanks for your answers in the USB install post.
 
I'm creating this new post to continue about the wireless connection.
 
Yesterday I modified the /etc/network/interfaces file, for the eth0 device 
(wired) I put my office network static IP, mask, etc., and it works.
 
I went to my house, I have a linksys router, I configured my home wireless 
network and my wireless key using Connect with other wireless network.. and 
it works.
 
But I can't connect to my office wireless network, for some reason mubuntu 
can't obtain the information of the DHCP server, is there a way to configure it 
in command line?
 
Is it normal that the option Manual Configuration did not works?
 
It happened also in other public hot spots
 
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[ubuntu-in] Airtel Broadband dialup howto?

[Lut4rp]

Hi
I have been looking around the web for quite a while now, and I can't
seem to find any howto, about setting up Airtel broadband (with the
ADSL 220BX modem), for those who have a limited connection. I have
seen many howtos but all of them suggest changing the settings of the
ADSL modem, so that it connects automatically on startup. My friend
who needs this, cant do this since he has a limited plan, and wants to
dial on demand, like he does on Windoze.

I went through the Ubuntu help system, and found a way to use a ADSL
PPPoE modem, but it didnt work. Is there anyone who uses such a
system? I would be grateful if you share it on the list. I can then
update the wiki page as well.


thanks!
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Airtel Broadband dialup howto?

[Linux Lover]

use the following command in a terminal, and follow the onscreen setup :
pppoeconf

hope this will help your friend.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Lut4rp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 I have been looking around the web for quite a while now, and I can't
 seem to find any howto, about setting up Airtel broadband (with the
 ADSL 220BX modem), for those who have a limited connection. I have
 seen many howtos but all of them suggest changing the settings of the
 ADSL modem, so that it connects automatically on startup. My friend
 who needs this, cant do this since he has a limited plan, and wants to
 dial on demand, like he does on Windoze.

 I went through the Ubuntu help system, and found a way to use a ADSL
 PPPoE modem, but it didnt work. Is there anyone who uses such a
 system? I would be grateful if you share it on the list. I can then
 update the wiki page as well.


 thanks!
 pratul

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[ubuntu-in] Sugar UI on Ubuntu

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Hi

was wondering if anyone had tried the Sugar UI on their Ubuntu machine

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_on_Ubuntu_Linux

have seen Sugar in work on an XO laptop and it is quite cute and 
effective , wonder how it will be to have it on a regular machine, 
hoping to try it out soon.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Sugar UI on Ubuntu

[Onkar Shinde]

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 was wondering if anyone had tried the Sugar UI on their Ubuntu machine

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_on_Ubuntu_Linux

 have seen Sugar in work on an XO laptop and it is quite cute and
 effective , wonder how it will be to have it on a regular machine,
 hoping to try it out soon.

 ram

Sugar UI is available for hardy in universe repository. I have tried
it on my small ibook and looks good. I didn't spend too much time with
it and don't exactly remember which activities work and which don't.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Sugar UI on Ubuntu

[Moz]

Hi,

 have seen Sugar in work on an XO laptop and it is quite cute and
 effective , wonder how it will be to have it on a regular machine,

 hoping to try it out soon.

Has anyone tried the mesh network feature of Sugar on non-XO machines? Will
it work?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Airtel Broadband dialup howto?

[Lut4rp]

 use the following command in a terminal, and follow the onscreen setup :
 pppoeconf

 hope this will help your friend.

 ইতি
 অনিন্দ্য
 Anindya

I mentioned in my mail, that I have tried the ppoeconf method from the
Ubuntu Help system. It isnt working... Maybe I did the wrong
setting-up? Hasn't someone actually done this yet? I am actually
surprised!


help!
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Airtel Broadband dialup howto?

[Jasbir Khehra]

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:58:40 +0530
Lut4rp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  use the following command in a terminal, and follow the onscreen
  setup : pppoeconf
 
  hope this will help your friend.
 
  ইতি
  অনিন্দ্য
  Anindya
 
 I mentioned in my mail, that I have tried the ppoeconf method from the
 Ubuntu Help system. It isnt working... Maybe I did the wrong
 setting-up? Hasn't someone actually done this yet? I am actually
 surprised!
 
 
 help!
 pratul
 
What errors ?? It would help if you provide the output of plog
or /var/log/syslog 
I have beetel 220BX modem , which I had configured to be used with pon
but with Dataone. 

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Airtel Broadband dialup howto?

[sivaji j.g]

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Lut4rp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
   My friend
 who needs this, cant do this since he has a limited plan, and wants to
 dial on demand, like he does on Windoze.


My suggestion is to remove this dial on demand setting because

1.when your Internet connection is unstable you dont have dial again and
again to use Internet .Just turn on the modem whenever you want to use and
turn off when its not required
2.you dont need to search for a tool to dial on demand  in ubuntu

contact your customer care to remove that setting

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Sugar UI on Ubuntu

[shirish]

Replies in-line :-

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 Hi,
Hi,

 have seen Sugar in work on an XO laptop and it is quite cute and
 effective , wonder how it will be to have it on a regular machine,

 hoping to try it out soon.

Would be interested in knowing.
 Has anyone tried the mesh network feature of Sugar on non-XO machines? Will
 it work?

From what I know that's a network chip with some proprietary firmware
written on it and the reports tell me it kinda works. There's lot
happening on the mesh network space with something like 70 odd
technologies (atleast the wikipedia says so ) so it would be
interesting to see where this goes, there is the 802.11s which I'm
interested to know as and when it gets ratified.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Sugar UI on Ubuntu

[Ramnarayan . K]

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:50 AM, shirish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Replies in-line :-


 From what I know that's a network chip with some proprietary firmware
 written on it and the reports tell me it kinda works. There's lot
 happening on the mesh network space with something like 70 odd
 technologies (atleast the wikipedia says so ) so it would be
 interesting to see where this goes, there is the 802.11s which I'm
 interested to know as and when it gets ratified.


are there 70 odd mesh tech. based on the olpc system or generally,

am also guessing that the mesh networking would have as much to do with the
firmware as the other systems on the mesh.

Third 80.11 b/g/n are backward compatible - b being slowest, then g and then
n so that should not be a problem

My interest is in knowing what kind of mesh network protocol is being used
by the olpc and if it can be emulated by other wifi devices and setup's

will post to some wifi mailing lists and get back with the results

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Rob Beard]

Mac wrote:
 You may already have come across this, from yesterday's BBC Technology News:
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm
 
 Mac

I'd seen it on another list but not actually read it until now.  I was 
amazed to see something by Richard Stallman on the Beeb's site.  This 
will go some way to explain about Free Software to some of the folks 
where I work who I've got to convince about distributing The Open Disc 
through them.

I don't suppose anyone knows of any good articles that have been 
released under the GNU FDL or Creative Commons share-a-like licence that 
explain Free and Open Source (or just Free) Software to someone who has 
grown up in a Microsoft world and doesn't understand it (and more to the 
point thinks that distributing Free Software isn't legal?).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Andrew Oakley]

Mac wrote:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm

 From TFA:
  If you're a programmer and you want to change the software,
  for yourself or for someone else, you can't.
...
  You can copy and redistribute this article under the
  Creative Commons Noderivs license.

LOL

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Eddie Armstrong]

Rob Beard wrote:
 Mac wrote:
   
 You may already have come across this, from yesterday's BBC Technology News:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm

 Mac
 
Isn't it a shame that OSS doesn't get the same air-time as Proprietary 
software, Microsoft has now been the subject of two Money Programme 
specials since the launch of Vista - and they amount to no more than 
puff pieces, free advertising. I get depressed by the kiss ass (Only In 
America!), attitude of the BBC to Gates  (ex) Co.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Matthew Macdonald-Wallace]

Quoting James Hooker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Rob -

 Im stuck on trains to and from London today - I'd happy to knock
 something together!

Nice touch - any chance of releasing it under the GFDL or CC and  
posting it on the Ubuntu UK Wiki?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Matthew Macdonald-Wallace]

Quoting Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 You may already have come across this, from yesterday's BBC Technology News:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm

 Mac

flamebait
I notice that there's no mention of the GNU Herd...
/flamebait

:o)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[James Hooker]

Of course - might be worth firing off a copy to someone like Computer  
Weekly (or as I like to call it  IT Manager's magazine they read to  
justify slacking off)


On 4 Jul 2008, at 09:18, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:

 Quoting James Hooker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Rob -

 Im stuck on trains to and from London today - I'd happy to knock
 something together!

 Nice touch - any chance of releasing it under the GFDL or CC and
 posting it on the Ubuntu UK Wiki?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Matthew Macdonald-Wallace]

Quoting James Hooker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Of course - might be worth firing off a copy to someone like Computer
 Weekly (or as I like to call it  IT Manager's magazine they read to
 justify slacking off)

How dare you sir.  CW has some of the most informative, insightful  
articles that I have ever...hang on...what's that?...I'm not reading  
CW, it's the daily fail instead?...I thought the coverage of the evils  
of the net was a bit strong for an industry magazine :oP

On the plus-side, they do tend to run some good conferences (i.e. lots  
of good freebies given away by exhibitors!)

Why not send it to Click (http://www.bbc.co.uk/click) and see what they think?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Bruce Beardall]

This is our greatest challenge. Articles and education about free software
in publications such as Linux Format / Magazine / Journal are all well and
good but they're largely preaching to the converted. What we need is to
spread the word in the wider field. There are still far too many people who
don't even know free (as in freedom) software exists nor that it's
available.

I think it's time we considered an ongoing campaign, something like an Ask
me about Linux day. That's just something off the top of my head but maybe
an advertising campaign where everyone, organisations and individuals alike
can make contributions? I don't know if these are viable ideas but it
strikes me that education is the key. If enough people start asking about
it, even the monolith that is the BBC will have to take note.

Bruce

On 7/4/08, Eddie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rob Beard wrote:
  Mac wrote:
 
  You may already have come across this, from yesterday's BBC Technology
 News:
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm
 
  Mac
 

 Isn't it a shame that OSS doesn't get the same air-time as Proprietary
 software, Microsoft has now been the subject of two Money Programme
 specials since the launch of Vista - and they amount to no more than
 puff pieces, free advertising. I get depressed by the kiss ass (Only In
 America!), attitude of the BBC to Gates  (ex) Co.

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[ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet and stylus

[London School of Puppetry]

Hi all, are there any graphic designers out there. I need a Wacom tablet and
stylus  to use with Hardy Heron (I have gimp) and have down loaded xjournal-
but haven't tried either of them.Could someone give me the name of a Wacom
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Matthew Macdonald-Wallace]

Quoting Bruce Beardall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This is our greatest challenge. Articles and education about free software
 in publications such as Linux Format / Magazine / Journal are all well and
 good but they're largely preaching to the converted. What we need is to
 spread the word in the wider field. There are still far too many people who
 don't even know free (as in freedom) software exists nor that it's
 available.

 I think it's time we considered an ongoing campaign, something like an Ask
 me about Linux day. That's just something off the top of my head but maybe
 an advertising campaign where everyone, organisations and individuals alike
 can make contributions? I don't know if these are viable ideas but it
 strikes me that education is the key. If enough people start asking about
 it, even the monolith that is the BBC will have to take note.

Something like http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ ?? :o)

It's sponsored by Canonical, Google, ZenOSS, the FSF, Linux Magazine  
and OLPC and is a global event that we can all use to promote F/LOSS.

Cheers,

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[ubuntu-uk] Computer Weekly (was: BBC News - Stallman

[Andrew Oakley]

James Hooker wrote:
 Computer  Weekly (or as I like to call it  IT Manager's magazine
  they read to justify slacking off)

Does anyone actually read anything inside it, other than the funnies on 
the back page and a quick glance through the vacancies?

With the news articles moved from the front page, replaced by a giant 
photo of Ugly Geek In The News This Week, I don't think I actually read 
any of the articles at all anymore. Many of the IT management articles 
seem to be puff-pieces for expensive jargon-de-jour training courses, 
anyway.

I basically consider it to be a free Dilbert comic + pale imitation of 
BOFH + pale imitation of ComputerWorld.com Shark Tank + next week's 
animal bedding. My chickens probably read more of it than I do. But it 
does look terribly impressive on the coffee table when the wife's 
cliquey faux-middle-class playgroup mums come round.

The new less shiny paper is a great improvement, as this absorbs far 
more chicken wee and, when shredded, makes excellent nesting material 
(six chicks due to hatch out from a Computer Weekly-lined coop this 
Sunday; stops the hens from pulling out their own feathers to line the bed).

They should just replace the articles with some interesting geometric 
patterns to pique the chickens' interest, and save on journalist 
staffing costs.

Along the same lines, all freebie corporate t-shirts should be replaced 
by freebie corporate paint-and-decorating boiler suits, or freebie 
corporate pyjama tops. That's all anyone ever uses them for, anyway. I 
don't think I've actually bought any sleepwear since my first IBM 
exhibition in 1992.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Lucy]

On 04/07/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't suppose anyone knows of any good articles that have been
  released under the GNU FDL or Creative Commons share-a-like licence that
  explain Free and Open Source (or just Free) Software to someone who has
  grown up in a Microsoft world and doesn't understand it (and more to the
  point thinks that distributing Free Software isn't legal?).

For a nice, shiny introduction to linux and free software try:
http://www.getgnulinux.org/

For a longer introduction to FLOSS, see Linux Australia's guide at:
http://www.linux.org.au/linux

And their education specific one at:
http://www.linux.org.au/education

For a more technical and very thorough examination of FLOSS see:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FLOSS_Concept_Booklet

I've also created a leaflet for advocating free software to new users
in my area, although it's not yet ready for distribution (I'm not sure
if I can use the floating gnu image for starters). But you are free to
take whatever is useful from it:
http://lucybridges.co.uk/leaflets/

I'm sure there's loads more available online, but those are the ones I
could think of right now.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Bruce Beardall]

I think Softwarefreedomday is great but I still think we need more and
something of a higher profile. Or am I just never satisfied? :-)

Bruce

On 7/4/08, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Bruce Beardall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  This is our greatest challenge. Articles and education about free
 software
  in publications such as Linux Format / Magazine / Journal are all well
 and
  good but they're largely preaching to the converted. What we need is to
  spread the word in the wider field. There are still far too many people
 who
  don't even know free (as in freedom) software exists nor that it's
  available.
 
  I think it's time we considered an ongoing campaign, something like an
 Ask
  me about Linux day. That's just something off the top of my head but
 maybe
  an advertising campaign where everyone, organisations and individuals
 alike
  can make contributions? I don't know if these are viable ideas but it
  strikes me that education is the key. If enough people start asking about
  it, even the monolith that is the BBC will have to take note.


 Something like http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ ?? :o)

 It's sponsored by Canonical, Google, ZenOSS, the FSF, Linux Magazine
 and OLPC and is a global event that we can all use to promote F/LOSS.

 Cheers,


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Lucy]

On 04/07/2008, Bruce Beardall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I think Softwarefreedomday is great but I still think we need more and
 something of a higher profile. Or am I just never satisfied? :-)

I think all the ingredients are there to make softwarefreedomday what
you described, but that it's up to us to make it higher profile.
Personally, I'm hoping that we will be able to have a really good
event organised in Manchester this year *fingers crossed*

Actually, I was talking to someone last night about this subject and
they argued that we are never going to get lots of people interested,
because it's such a niche subject that most people simply don't care
and/or don't have any interest in computing. I'm not sure if I agree
or not, but I think trying to move people towards free software is
still worth it, even if they don't know about the benefits.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Computer Weekly (was: BBC News - Stallman

[Sean Miller]

I gave up on Computer Weekly when the job vacancies dwindled to next
to nothing... from about 10 large pages down to about 3.

IT Week always seemed good... for some reason I seem to have dropped
off their mailing list.  I must sign on again.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Rob Beard]

Quoting Lucy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
snip

 I'm sure there's loads more available online, but those are the ones I
 could think of right now.


Thanks Lucy, they'll be a help.  I'm sure they'll explain it much  
better than I can.  I did try and work out how to explain it but I  
always explain it in a techie sense and not to a non-techie.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News - Stallman

[Bruce Beardall]

Well said, Lucy. You're right, of course, about it being up to us although
my concern is not just for public awareness but also being a loud enough
voice where legislation is concerned. Do we have a loud enough voice to
speak out about legislation (national or international) that may come into
being that rules free software out? The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
(see: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/ ) is a case in point.

And getting people interested in something they wouldn't normally care about
is a bit of a mission, I must admit



On 7/4/08, Lucy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 04/07/2008, Bruce Beardall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I think Softwarefreedomday is great but I still think we need more and
  something of a higher profile. Or am I just never satisfied? :-)


 I think all the ingredients are there to make softwarefreedomday what
 you described, but that it's up to us to make it higher profile.
 Personally, I'm hoping that we will be able to have a really good
 event organised in Manchester this year *fingers crossed*

 Actually, I was talking to someone last night about this subject and
 they argued that we are never going to get lots of people interested,
 because it's such a niche subject that most people simply don't care
 and/or don't have any interest in computing. I'm not sure if I agree
 or not, but I think trying to move people towards free software is
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[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu sbs server

[Daniel Lamb]

Hello,

Is anyone interested in an SBS equivalent ubuntu server with mail, 
domain, file shares etc?

I have built something which does this using remastersys but I need help 
writing a script if anyone is interested please get in touch.

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[ubuntu-uk] Firefox?

[Wulfy]

I was having problems with Firefox-3.0 crashing so I thought I'd remove 
it and re-install Firefox-2.  This did not go well...

So, after removing all the add-ons (which didn't go) and still having 
problems I decided to purge everything to do with Firefox and start from 
scratch.  Fat chance.

I removed my .mozilla directory in /home/wulfy.  Nothing in /etc, 
/usr/bin, /usr/lib or /usr/share.

I reinstall Firefox... I click on Tools/add-ons..  and there is a list 
of all the add-ons I used to have waiting to be uninstalled when I 
restart Firefox...

sigh  Where is Firefox hiding the data?  How can I start fresh?  I'm 
beginning to really hate this program...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu sbs server

[Rob Beard]

Quoting Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 Is anyone interested in an SBS equivalent ubuntu server with mail,
 domain, file shares etc?

 I have built something which does this using remastersys but I need help
 writing a script if anyone is interested please get in touch.

 Regards,
 Daniel


Yes I'd certainly be interested.  At the moment on my mail server I'm  
using SME Server 7.2 which does the job but uses RPM and seems to have  
occasional problems updating, so an Ubuntu based solution would be  
great.

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[ubuntu-uk] Linux+symbian/java rss readers

[Javad Ayaz]

I was just wondering if anyone knows of any rss readers that will work on
these platforms.

I currently use mobipocket's reader to sync my rss's with my rss's on my
phoneBut i use a windows pc...

Is there any other way?

Maybe an online rss app that i can install on symbian?

Your thoughts are welcome!!!

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu sbs server

[Ben Arblaster]

Daniel Lamb wrote:
 Hello,

 Is anyone interested in an SBS equivalent ubuntu server with mail, 
 domain, file shares etc?

 I have built something which does this using remastersys but I need help 
 writing a script if anyone is interested please get in touch.

 Regards,
 Daniel
   
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox?

[Jason Liquorish]

Wulfy wrote:
 I was having problems with Firefox-3.0 crashing so I thought I'd remove 
 it and re-install Firefox-2.  This did not go well...
 
 So, after removing all the add-ons (which didn't go) and still having 
 problems I decided to purge everything to do with Firefox and start from 
 scratch.  Fat chance.
 
 I removed my .mozilla directory in /home/wulfy.  Nothing in /etc, 
 /usr/bin, /usr/lib or /usr/share.
 
 I reinstall Firefox... I click on Tools/add-ons..  and there is a list 
 of all the add-ons I used to have waiting to be uninstalled when I 
 restart Firefox...
 
 sigh  Where is Firefox hiding the data?  How can I start fresh?  I'm 
 beginning to really hate this program...
 
 Kubuntu Hardy up-to-date
 

Did you try sudo apt-get purge Firefox before installing Firefox 2? Or 
in synaptic marking Firefox as Mark for Complete Removal that should 
remove pretty much every trace of Firefox. I must say for a while I was 
running Firefox 2 and 3 side by side with no problems.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wacom tablet and stylus

[norman]

 Hi all, are there any graphic designers out there. I need a Wacom
 tablet and stylus  to use with Hardy Heron (I have gimp) and have down
 loaded xjournal- but haven't tried either of them.Could someone give
 me the name of a Wacom tablet which would be suitable for Linux- our
 local computer shop does not know.

I don't know anything about Wacom tablets but there is a man who is
producing some excellent videos on how to use Gimp with the latest
Ubuntu and he uses such a tablet. He can be contacted at
www.meetthegimp.org and you can mention my name if you wish.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox?

[Wulfy]

Jason Liquorish wrote:
 Wulfy wrote:
   

 Did you try sudo apt-get purge Firefox before installing Firefox 2? Or 
 in synaptic marking Firefox as Mark for Complete Removal that should 
 remove pretty much every trace of Firefox. I must say for a while I was 
 running Firefox 2 and 3 side by side with no problems.
Yep.  I purged everything.  firefox, firefox-2, firefox-3.0.  I checked 
everywhere I could think of to confirm that.  They were GONE. Yet when I 
reinstalled, there were the add-ons...  *still* waiting to be 
uninstalled after Firefox is restarted.

I've been using Firefox-3 for ages.  No problem.  Then suddenly today it 
started crashing.  Now I seem to have totally screwed everything up and 
I can't even start again with a clean slate because there's some data 
that FF stores that I can't find.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox?

[Dark Otter]

It's a long-shot, but might they be in /usr/lib/firefox? There are a
couple of folders /usr/lib/firefox, /usr/lib/firefox-3.0 etc. on my
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox?

[Wulfy]

Dark Otter wrote:
 It's a long-shot, but might they be in /usr/lib/firefox? There are a 
 couple of folders /usr/lib/firefox, /usr/lib/firefox-3.0 etc. on my 
 computer. 
I looked in /usr/lib for anything to do with FF... I even looked in 
/usr/lib32...  all gone.  I'm baffled.

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I think orca's broken

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htmlbodyHallo allbr/nbsp;br/I am running ubuntu 8.04 and I have 
installed Festival in order to read books with a better sounding voice.nbsp; 
Everything went well, since I downloaded festival via apt-get.nbsp; I then 
installed some of the Nichet enhanced arctic voices and I told Orca to use one 
of them.br/nbsp;br/Then Orca just died;nbsp; I can't restore it.nbsp; Is 
there a way of getting my machine talking again or restoring Orca to its 
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Re: Addition to the -graphics meta.

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Yes, great.

Toine



Luis de Bethencourt a écrit :
 On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 pstoedit - pstoedit converts Postscript and PDF files to various
 editable vector graphic formats including tgif, xfig, PDF graphics,
 gnuplot format, idraw, MetaPost, GNU Metafile, PIC, Kontour and
 flattened PostScript.

 Adding this allows Inkscape to import .eps files. A very common format.
 It's in Universe. I'd like this to be added to our seed list for the
 -graphics meta.

 -Cory K. \m/
 

 If this helps inkscape it is a great addition to the meta.

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Monitor problem

[The Wassermans]

I have recently switched to Ubuntu 8.04.  Am a new convert still trying
to configure my computer.

At issue is my Samsung SyncMaster 205bw (lcd) monitor.

I have noticed that my photographs and videos are appreciably fuzzier
than they are using the same monitor in XP.  I am presuming that it must
be something to do with the Driver?

Sumsung do not provide a Linux driver as such.

Questions:
  * Where in Ubuntu do I go to look at what driver is actually in
use?
  * Are there alternative drivers for my monitor?
  * Is there a solution to improving the quality of rendering?


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Hi Wassermans,

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:04:51 pm The Wassermans wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 01:21 +0930, ishwor wrote:
  While I understand ocassional M$ bashing, what I do not understand is why
  linux / GNU(moo)/Linux users have to criticise Microsoft Windows all the
  time? Haven't we got something that's original of our own? I mean can't
  we just let it alone? It's the same crowd everywhere these days from
  slashdot to mailing list. MS Windows taks it from left/right/bottom/up in
  much the same way as linux takes it from BSD.

 Okay.  You've touched my guilt nerve.  I can understand, and even
 sympathise with your irritation.  I just struck me as funny at the time.

 Err.  What does BSD mean please?

 Dave W

BSD - Berkeley Software Distribution. To get more information have a read 
through the wikipedia :) One primary difference between linux and bsd is that 
in bsd, everything in the system is worked on by a core set of bsd 
developers. compare that with linux where hundreds of developers/coders 
working on simulataneously/concurrently. plus the focus in lot of BSDs around 
is on strong codebase, security and ehnacibility. Everyone knows about 
openbsd's popular ssh server. it has pretty well withstood the time so far.

These days bsd's popular choice prevail as an alternative to 
windows/linux/solaris. Espceially Freebsd, OpenBSD and Netbsd. there are 
more. these were derived from 4.4BSD i think.

have a great weekend folks. Yay!

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Re: Monitor problem

[Kim Hawtin]

Hi Dave,

The Wassermans wrote:
 I have recently switched to Ubuntu 8.04.  Am a new convert still trying
 to configure my computer.

=)

 At issue is my Samsung SyncMaster 205bw (lcd) monitor.

is the 15 pin VGA or DVI connector in use?

 I have noticed that my photographs and videos are appreciably fuzzier
 than they are using the same monitor in XP.  I am presuming that it must
 be something to do with the Driver?

What is the application that you are using to view or edit the images?

Is there smoothing or zooming or image compression going on here you haven't 
seen?
What is the file format?
How big is the image in kilobytes?
How big is the image in pixels?

Fuzzy is such a loose word to use here, as the application you use in
windows may actually be doing smoothing without you knowing...

 Sumsung do not provide a Linux driver as such.
 
 Questions:
   * Where in Ubuntu do I go to look at what driver is actually in
 use?

The driver in Ubuntus case is actually the video card driver...

   * Are there alternative drivers for my monitor?

Linux and xorg doesn't do monitor 'drivers' as such ...

   * Is there a solution to improving the quality of rendering?

The windows 'driver' is mainly to give hints to the video card about
which screen resolutions to run, which are native and what gamma modes
and colour correction is supported. Mainly so the user doesn't need
to fiddle with them.

Most of these options in Linux/xorg are configurable, however I'm not
sure if these are changeable from the GUI.

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Re: Monitor problem

[The Wassermans]

Thank you Kim for your considered questions.  Answers follow:-

On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 16:07 +0930, Kim Hawtin wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 
 The Wassermans wrote:
  I have recently switched to Ubuntu 8.04.  Am a new convert still trying
  to configure my computer.
 
 =)
 
  At issue is my Samsung SyncMaster 205bw (lcd) monitor.
 
 is the 15 pin VGA or DVI connector in use?

The (Blue) VGA connector is in use.  I don't believe my PC has a DVI
connection facility.  In case of need would an adaptor of some
description make sense?
 
  I have noticed that my photographs and videos are appreciably fuzzier
  than they are using the same monitor in XP.  I am presuming that it must
  be something to do with the Driver?
 
 What is the application that you are using to view or edit the images?

The applications I have tried are Picasa  F-Spot.
 
 Is there smoothing or zooming or image compression going on here you haven't 
 seen?
Not sure how to tell
 What is the file format? 
JPEG
 How big is the image in kilobytes?
656KB
 How big is the image in pixels?
2048 x 1536
 
 Fuzzy is such a loose word to use here, as the application you use in
 windows may actually be doing smoothing without you knowing...
I guess I could describe the picture as not being sharp.  The line on
diagonal straight edges (say a table) are somewhat jagged.

Yes smoothing would describe what is missing.

 
  Sumsung do not provide a Linux driver as such.
  
  Questions:
* Where in Ubuntu do I go to look at what driver is actually in
  use?
 
 The driver in Ubuntus case is actually the video card driver...
Noted.

* Are there alternative drivers for my monitor?
 
 Linux and xorg doesn't do monitor 'drivers' as such ...
Noted

 
* Is there a solution to improving the quality of rendering?
 
 The windows 'driver' is mainly to give hints to the video card about
 which screen resolutions to run, which are native and what gamma modes
 and colour correction is supported. Mainly so the user doesn't need
 to fiddle with them.
Noted

 
 Most of these options in Linux/xorg are configurable, however I'm not
 sure if these are changeable from the GUI.
Okay, I'll try to investigate that.
 

This response has been very beneficial to my much needed education.
Thank you again . . . 


Regards,

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Re: Monitor problem

[Null Ack]

2008/7/4 The Wassermans [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 21:38 +1000, Null Ack wrote:
 Are you running your monitor at its native resolution in Ubuntu?

 Sorry Null,  I have a jargon problem.  What does native resolution
 mean in this context?

 The GUI offers a selection of from 1680x1050 to 720x400.  Upon
 installation Ubuntu defaulted to 1680x1050.  That's what I'm using.

 Regards
 Dave W



Dave, LCD monitors have a native resolution that works well. Unlike
a CRT, when other non native resolutions are displayed on the monitor,
the pixels have to be lit in a way that causes the sharpness to drop
due to the way that LCD works. The first place I would explore with
this is to identify the native resolution of your particular LCD and
ensure you are using that before looking at other causes.

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Re: Ubuntu upgrades

[Karl Goetz]

On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 09:41 +1000, Peter Garrett wrote:
 On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:45:57 +1000
 Leslie Gossner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Oh and i use the US server for al my updates 
  as the default aussie server (optus) is terribly slow to update and down 
  a lot more often than i would like.
 
 Agreed. You can, however, use a number of other Australian mirrors.
 I am currently using Internode's mirror, but there are several others.
 
 ftp.au.debian.org for example has a fast and reliable Ubuntu mirror
 (nice of them!)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host ftp.au.debian.org
ftp.au.debian.org is an alias for mirror.linux.org.au.
mirror.linux.org.au has address 150.203.164.37
mirror.linux.org.au has IPv6 address 2001:388:1034:2900::25
mirror.linux.org.au mail is handled by 10 disco.mirror.linux.org.au.

Which iirc lives at ANU. Nice and quick :)
kk

 
 If you open System-Administration-Software Sources and click on
 Other on the Download from: selector, you will see quite a range of
 other possibilities under Australia.
 
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Re: Telstra Broadband Wireless Modem

[Karl Bowden]

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Callan Jefferson Davies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have had a number of inquiries, as to whether there is a solution to
 using a Telstra Broadband Wireless Modem (USB Key Style) with Ubuntu 8.04.

 It has to be simple as I can presently only give these folk email
 support... they live waaay out bush.



 Hi Norm,

 I successfully got one of these sticks working on a friend's 8.04
 laptop, however this friend has a habit of 'meddling' and for some
 reason it stopped working. I haven't had time to try fixing it yet.

 But, you might like to know that the most useful page I found was this
 one : http://quozl.netrek.org/bp3-usb/ - just scroll about half way down
 the page to the section Introduction- After becoming the focal point
 for Linux support on another Maxon product, Quozl was lent a Maxon
 BP3-USB...

 On a related note, one of my pet gripes is these USB Modem type
 devices - even in windows, they are a pain in the backside, I know this
 from experience as I work for an ISP in Adelaide. I've been waiting for
 a router that can be used with Wireless broadband type devices, and we
 finally found one that's just been released. No feedback yet, but worth
 a look - http://au.billion.com/product/wireless/bipac7402gx.php - this
 device, once configured, means no configuration AT ALL on the actual
 computer!

 Anyway, best of luck - would love to hear any success (or stress!)
 stories.

 Callan


I can also recommend the Ericsson W25 wireless routers. We have a few
from Telstra for wireless broadband, their linux based as you can see
the busybox comments on the log page, but I have not been able to
access a shell yet.
They have 4 ethernet ports 802.11b/g two usb ports for printer and hdd
sharing and two phone jacks for using the phone services over that sim
card too.
So nice units, bit expensive though, but we got them included in the
data plans anyway.

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Wireless USB Adaptor

[Simon Ives]

Recently the Broadcom chip-set based wireless card in my notebook
decided to die.  One of the circuits actually fried somehow!  Anyhow,
has anyone had any success with Wireless USB adaptors under Ubuntu?  At
home my wireless router is a D-Link DSL-G604T capable of both 802.11b
and 802.11g.  I'm not sure of what wireless technology is in use at Uni
(Uni of QLD and ANU) though.  I'd need an adaptor capable of connecting
to both networks.  I'm currently using LAN at home but I'll need some
way of accessing the wireless at Uni after the holidays.

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Re: Newbie question - soundcard support

[Fernando Gomes]

Thank you all! I just bought a Tascam US122 on Ebay, so I'm waiting to try
it with Linux!

Best regards

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:47:00 +0200 (CEST)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  hello
 
  http://www.tascam.com/products/us-224.html
  it's work fine on linux system
  * input/output works
  * record, play, pause works
  * I haven't try to make works the left-part of the card (faders
  for 4 tracks) maybe they works, maybe not
 
  ciao'livier
 
 
  Salut,
  la carte fonctionne bien sur un system linux
 * les entrées/sorties fonctionnent
 * enregistrement, play, pause fonctionnent
 * Je n'ai pas essayé de faire fonctionner la partie gauche de la
  carte (les faders pour 4 pistes), peut être qu'ils fonctionnent, ou
  pas
 

 The smaller Tascam is reported to work afaik, it's similar to this one:
 http://www.tascam.com/products/us-122l.html
 The Problem is that the newer one, US-122L does not work, so if you can
 get one without the L it should be fine.
 I personally use an roland/edirol UA-25 which has about the same
 features.
 There's also an Alesis usb device that is very similar.

 If firewire is an option for you, you could try to find a small device
 that is known to work. Firewire has some benefits over usb and few
 drawbacks, like, not being available on every computer and not working
 very well with every firewire controller chipset.

 Have a look at alsa-project.org for soundcards in general, freebob.org
 and ffado.org for firewire audio devices.

 Good luck
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program recognizes the disk.  But I get this status message:

the medium is not writable with the current set of plugins

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[Ubuntu-BR] Kernel com problemas no HD SATA

[Stanley Mulford]

Pessoal
Estou tendo dificuldade em instalar o Ubuntu 8.04 na minha máquina com as 
seguintes características:
Processador Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz
HD SATA 160 GB  Samsung
Placa mãe: ASUS P5VD2-MX SE com chipset VIA
Logo após o particionamento aparece um aviso de que está havendo problemas com 
o CD ou com o HD.
Acontece que o meu CD é o original da Canonical
O mesmo aconteceu quando tentei instalar o Kubuntu 8.04 e até com o Linux Mint 
5.01 (Elyssa).
Mas quando tentei instalar o Ubuntu 7.10 tudo funcionou normalmente e instalou 
sem problemas.
Pelas minhas pesquisas encontrei que o problema seria com a controladora
SATA VIA presente na minha placa-mãe (ASUS P5VD2-MX SE).
Parece que o problema é com o kernel linux 2.6.24-18.
Qual seria a melhor placa-mãe para substituir esta minha que tem chipset VIA e 
que parece está dando o problema?
Peço a ajuda dos amigos para solucionar este problema pois não encontro mais 
HDs IDE no comércio.
Um abraço a todos
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Kernel com problemas no HD SATA

[Evandro Begati]

Meu notebook tem chipset VIA e o hd é sata, instalei o ubuntu e uso normalmente

2008/7/4 Stanley Mulford [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Pessoal
 Estou tendo dificuldade em instalar o Ubuntu 8.04 na minha máquina com as 
 seguintes características:
 Processador Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz
 HD SATA 160 GB  Samsung
 Placa mãe: ASUS P5VD2-MX SE com chipset VIA
 Logo após o particionamento aparece um aviso de que está havendo problemas 
 com o CD ou com o HD.
 Acontece que o meu CD é o original da Canonical
 O mesmo aconteceu quando tentei instalar o Kubuntu 8.04 e até com o Linux 
 Mint 5.01 (Elyssa).
 Mas quando tentei instalar o Ubuntu 7.10 tudo funcionou normalmente e 
 instalou sem problemas.
 Pelas minhas pesquisas encontrei que o problema seria com a controladora
 SATA VIA presente na minha placa-mãe (ASUS P5VD2-MX SE).
 Parece que o problema é com o kernel linux 2.6.24-18.
 Qual seria a melhor placa-mãe para substituir esta minha que tem chipset VIA 
 e que parece está dando o problema?
 Peço a ajuda dos amigos para solucionar este problema pois não encontro mais 
 HDs IDE no comércio.
 Um abraço a todos
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[Ubuntu-BR] Eth0:avahi O que é isso?

[Felipe Eduardo Silva Sampaio]

Tenho um problema na minha rede, é o seguinte: Meu modem é roteado e tal,
ligo o PC, mas nada de rede, quando clico no ícone de rede(aquele q tem duas
telinhas) quando vou ver o nome da conexão, aparece um tal de 'lo' e outro
de 'eth0:avahi'. Quando tá assim, tenho q reiniciar o computador(as vezes
mais de uma vez) pra depois na bendita rede aparecer o 'lo' e o 'eth0'(sem o
tal de :avahi). Alguém pode me ajudar a resolver esse problema?

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[Ubuntu-BR] Baixar streams no firefox 3 ...

[Cristiano Machado]

Saudações meus caros ...

Não sei se aqui neta lista é o lugar mais indicada para esta pergunta, pois
acho que ela se refere mais ao FF3 que ao Ubuntu propriamente dito ...

em todo caso, lá vai...

No FF antigo, eu tinha alguns plugins para baixar stream de alguns sites,
mas agora com a nova versão, todos os plugins que eu usava estão
desabilitados.
Há alguma outra forma de fazer isso, pelo opera ou outro navegador, que eu
possa fazer isso!!!

grato .

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[Ubuntu-BR] Ajuda com firewall

[Marcelo Garcia / Supermar]

Pessoal,

O ultimo firewall q escrevi foi em 2003. Agora to recomecando do zero em um 
novo servidor. Por hora ele tem squid transparente, mas vai ter apache e 
email. Qdo ativo o firewall, o repasse de email esta ok, porem NAO navego, 
nem consigo acessar o ssh. Lembro que tem q abrir portas de retorno, mas nao 
sei como faz. Alguem pode olhar o script abaixo,e me dizer aonde estou 
pegado ?

Obrigado

Marcelo



ext='eth0'
int='eth1'
ipint='192.168.0.1'
redeint='192.168.0.0/16'
ipext='200.200.233.200'
redeext='200.200.233.0/255.255.255.192'
internet='0/0'
modprobe iptable_nat
3#Politicas padroes
iptables  -P INPUT  DROP
iptables  -P FORWARD DROP
#iptables  -P OUTPUT  DROP
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
#
# Habilita o NAT + Proxy Transparente
#
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/16 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 
200.200.233.200
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
REDIRECT --to-port 3128
# Libera Ping rede interna
iptables -A OUTPUT  -p icmp -s $ipext-d $redeext  --icmp-type 8 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT   -p icmp -s $ipext-d $redeext  --icmp-type 8 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT  -p icmp -s $ipext-d $redeext  --icmp-type 0 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT   -p icmp -s $ipext-d $redeext  --icmp-type 0 -j 
ACCEPT
# Libera DNS, HTTP, ICMP GW-Internet, Proxy
iptables -A OUTPUT  -p udp  -s $ipext-d $internet --dport 53-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT   -p udp  -s $internet -d $ipext--sport 53-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT  -p icmp -s $ipext-d $internet --icmp-type 8 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT   -p icmp -s $internet -d $ipext--icmp-type 0 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT  -p tcp  -s $ipint-d $internet --dport 80-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT   -p tcp  -s $internet -d $ipint--sport 80-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT  -p tcp  -s $ipint-d $redeint  --dport 3128  -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT   -p tcp  -s $redeint  -d $ipint--sport 3128  -j 
ACCEPT
# Libera DNS / PING / HTTP / POP / SMTP p/ rede interna
iptables -A FORWARD -p udp  -s $redeint  -d $internet --dport 53-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p udp  -s $internet -d $redeint  --sport 53-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p icmp -s $redeint  -d $internet --icmp-type 8 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p icmp -s $internet -d $redeint  --icmp-type 0 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp  -s $redeint  -d $internet --dport 80-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp  -s $internet -d $redeint  --sport 80-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp  -s $redeint  -d $internet --dport 25-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp  -s $internet -d $redeint  --sport 25-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp  -s $redeint  -d $internet --dport 110   -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp  -s $internet -d $redeint  --sport 110   -j 
ACCEPT
# Libera SSH p/ rede interna
iptables -A INPUT   -p udp  -s $redeint  -d $ipint--sport 22-j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT  -p udp  -s $ipint-d $redeint  --dport 22-j 
ACCEPT 


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[Ubuntu-BR] Impressoras

[Luis Fessel]

Cositas básicas:
 
Comprei uma Lexmark x2350 e uma Epson cx5600, ambas multifuncionais.
Uso o UBUNTU 7.10, com uma Epson Stylus 600.
Sei que existem dificuldades para instalar a cx5600 (já foram resolvidas ??);
E a Lexmark ?? Também tá dificil, ou tá melhor ??
E o scanner (de ambas)??
 
Além disso...
Tenho o KDE 3.4 instalado também, como alternativa. É possível instalar um 
programa no gnome(ou kde) e o outro reconhecê-lo automaticamente?? Ou preciso 
reinta-lá-lo no outro também??
 
Ténques


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[Ubuntu-BR] Duvida, init.d

[Flávio Alexandre]

Pessoal,
boa tarde
preciso registar um acript pra que toda vez que a maquina ligar ele seja
carregado, onde registro ele ?
sei que deposi ele vai aparecer dentro do /etc/init.d/
alguempode me dar uma ajdua ?
att
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Duvida, init.d

[Sergio Pereira]

Flávio Alexandre escreveu:
 Pessoal,
 boa tarde
 preciso registar um acript pra que toda vez que a maquina ligar ele seja
 carregado, onde registro ele ?
 sei que deposi ele vai aparecer dentro do /etc/init.d/
 alguempode me dar uma ajdua ?
 att
 Alex Reis
   
Você cria o script no /etc/init.d/ e depois, um link simbólico no 
/etc/rcS.d/ apontando para o seu script. Não esqueça das permissões 
script. Para ser executável $ sudo chmod 755 seu_script.sh

Sérgio

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[Ubuntu-BR] Novo Tópico

[james williams de oliveira geraldo]

Gostaria de propor um novo tópico: Ubuntu - Acer Aspire 5100-5196.
 
Sou usuário Windows desde sempre. Tenho tentado migrar para algumas 
distribuições Linux. Das distribuições que eu explorei o Ubuntu foi a que mais 
me agradou, no entanto, tenho tido dificuldades para configurar a Acer Orbicam, 
a placa wireless e os leitores de cartões de memória, e também, para ler 
arquivos com a extensão RMVB.
 
Apreciaria qualquer auxilio vindo da comunidade, sempre leio as documentações 
oficiais e tudo que é postado nos fóruns, mas infelizmente ainda não tive 
sucesso.

Desde já, agradeço pela atenção de todos.

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[Ubuntu-BR] RES: Duvida, init.d

[Bruno Bettero]

Ou você tambémb pode colocar o patch(caminho onde esta o script) dele dentro
do arquivo rc.local se você usa a distribuição Debain...

Espero ter ajudado

Bruno

-Mensagem original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Sergio Pereira
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 4 de julho de 2008 15:17
Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro
Assunto: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Duvida, init.d

Flávio Alexandre escreveu:
 Pessoal,
 boa tarde
 preciso registar um acript pra que toda vez que a maquina ligar ele seja
 carregado, onde registro ele ?
 sei que deposi ele vai aparecer dentro do /etc/init.d/
 alguempode me dar uma ajdua ?
 att
 Alex Reis
   
Você cria o script no /etc/init.d/ e depois, um link simbólico no 
/etc/rcS.d/ apontando para o seu script. Não esqueça das permissões 
script. Para ser executável $ sudo chmod 755 seu_script.sh

Sérgio

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[Ubuntu-BR] RES: Duvida, init.d

[Bruno Bettero]

Ou você tambémb pode colocar o patch(caminho onde esta o script) dele dentro
do arquivo rc.local 
Espero ter ajudado

Bruno

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Flávio Alexandre
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 4 de julho de 2008 13:55
Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro
Assunto: [Ubuntu-BR] Duvida, init.d

Pessoal,
boa tarde
preciso registar um acript pra que toda vez que a maquina ligar ele seja
carregado, onde registro ele ?
sei que deposi ele vai aparecer dentro do /etc/init.d/
alguempode me dar uma ajdua ?
att
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[Ubuntu-BR] Conversa pelo MSN

[Augusto Fontenele]

Tenho um Ubuntu 8.04 não estou conseguindo conversar com webcam e áudio pelo 
msn, mesmo tendo tentado com amsn, mercury kopte. 

AMSN:Quando envio a webcam para o contato apare o seguinte erro:
extra characters after close-quote
while executing
::amsn::ShowChatList Enviar Webcam [::ChatWindow::getCurrentTab 
.container_0] ::MSNCAM::SendInviteQueue
invoked from within
.container_0.#container_0#menu.#container_0#menu#actions invoke active
(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 [list $w invoke active]
(procedure tk::MenuInvoke line 50)
invoked from within
tk::MenuInvoke .container_0.#container_0#menu.#container_0#menu#actions 1
(command bound to event)
MERCURY O mercury não reconhece o dispositivo de captura de vídeo V4L2. Será 
que ele só reconhece o V4L?
KOPETE: No Kopete, quando muito, só consigo, às vezes, enviar a webcam mas sem 
aúdio. Ele nem mesmo dá a opção para configurar o áudio. Será que ele suporta 
conversa com áudio.
 
Por favor me ajudem

Augusto

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Conversa pelo MSN

[Paulo Henrique Colen]

O meu não chega a dar esse erro, mas tb não funciona, tentei com 2  webcam,
tem hora que funciona tem hora que nada.

2008/7/4 Augusto Fontenele [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Tenho um Ubuntu 8.04 não estou conseguindo conversar com webcam e áudio
 pelo msn, mesmo tendo tentado com amsn, mercury kopte.

 AMSN:Quando envio a webcam para o contato apare o seguinte erro:
 extra characters after close-quote
while executing
 ::amsn::ShowChatList Enviar Webcam [::ChatWindow::getCurrentTab
 .container_0] ::MSNCAM::SendInviteQueue
invoked from within
 .container_0.#container_0#menu.#container_0#menu#actions invoke active
(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
 uplevel #0 [list $w invoke active]
(procedure tk::MenuInvoke line 50)
invoked from within
 tk::MenuInvoke .container_0.#container_0#menu.#container_0#menu#actions 1
(command bound to event)
 MERCURY O mercury não reconhece o dispositivo de captura de vídeo V4L2.
 Será que ele só reconhece o V4L?
 KOPETE: No Kopete, quando muito, só consigo, às vezes, enviar a webcam mas
 sem aúdio. Ele nem mesmo dá a opção para configurar o áudio. Será que ele
 suporta conversa com áudio.

 Por favor me ajudem

 Augusto

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Eth0:avahi O que é isso?

[francisco mendes caruso]

tenta ifconfig eth0 down e depois ifconfig eth0 up  , sempre como sudo

 
QUICO CARUSO
o seu personal_coroa

 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:51:26 -0300
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 Subject: [Ubuntu-BR] Eth0:avahi O que é isso?
 
 Tenho um problema na minha rede, é o seguinte: Meu modem é roteado e tal,
 ligo o PC, mas nada de rede, quando clico no ícone de rede(aquele q tem duas
 telinhas) quando vou ver o nome da conexão, aparece um tal de 'lo' e outro
 de 'eth0:avahi'. Quando tá assim, tenho q reiniciar o computador(as vezes
 mais de uma vez) pra depois na bendita rede aparecer o 'lo' e o 'eth0'(sem o
 tal de :avahi). Alguém pode me ajudar a resolver esse problema?
 
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[Ubuntu-BR] (sem assunto)

[Elias Silva]

  Novos endereços, o Yahoo! que você conhece. Crie um email novo com a sua 
cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.
http://br.new.mail.yahoo.com/addresses
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Impressoras

[Adenauer Pereira Sampaio]

Uso uma mulifuncional HP e nunca tive problema (desde a versão 7.04 até
hoje).  O ubuntu reconhece automaticamente e instala a impressora.
Muito legal...
Abraços,
Adenauer

Em Sex, 2008-07-04 às 09:00 -0700, Luis Fessel escreveu:
 Cositas básicas:
  
 Comprei uma Lexmark x2350 e uma Epson cx5600, ambas multifuncionais.
 Uso o UBUNTU 7.10, com uma Epson Stylus 600.
 Sei que existem dificuldades para instalar a cx5600 (já foram resolvidas ??);
 E a Lexmark ?? Também tá dificil, ou tá melhor ??
 E o scanner (de ambas)??
  
 Além disso...
 Tenho o KDE 3.4 instalado também, como alternativa. É possível instalar um 
 programa no gnome(ou kde) e o outro reconhecê-lo automaticamente?? Ou preciso 
 reinta-lá-lo no outro também??
  
 Ténques
 
 
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[Ubuntu-BR] duvida sobre a versão do hardy

[iraziel da silva gomes]

olá pessoal,

será que eu perdi alguma coisa?

quando foi liberado a nova versão o hardy baixei.
o arquivo que era: ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
só esqueci de ver o MD5,
dai agora a pouco baixei o md5sum e verifiquei a diferença.

o nome do arquivo agora eh:
ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso

alguem sabe se são os mesmos ou já saiu alguma atualização.
mudaram a forma de atualização?

obrigado...

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[Ubuntu-BR] Xvidcap

[Walter Alves de Souza]

Estava usando normalmente o xvidcap. De uma hora para outra, após fazer a
seleção e mandar gravar, simplesmente ele fecha o programa. Se alguém
estiver passando pelo mesmo problema e tenha encontrado a solução, se
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[Ubuntu-BR] Teclado no virtualbox não reconhece teclas ç til

[Walter Alves de Souza]

Estou usando o Virtualbox, mesmo com as configurações dos sistemas
instalados (Kurumin, Mandriva) em português, o teclado não reconhece o ç , o
til, Se alguém tiver passado pelo mesmo problema e tenha encontrado a
solução, Ficaria bastante grato se me fosse enviada.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] duvida sobre a versão do hardy

[Alexandre Martani]

A diferença é que o .1 já inclui algumas atualizações. Mas pode
instalar o original sem problemas, e depois usar o sistema de
atualizações, que dá na mesma..

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2008/7/4 iraziel da silva gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 olá pessoal,

 será que eu perdi alguma coisa?

 quando foi liberado a nova versão o hardy baixei.
 o arquivo que era: ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
 só esqueci de ver o MD5,
 dai agora a pouco baixei o md5sum e verifiquei a diferença.

 o nome do arquivo agora eh:
 ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso

 alguem sabe se são os mesmos ou já saiu alguma atualização.
 mudaram a forma de atualização?

 obrigado...

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Xvidcap

[hamacker]

desativa o compiz e tenta de novo.

2008/7/4 Walter Alves de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Estava usando normalmente o xvidcap. De uma hora para outra, após fazer a
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[Ubuntu-BR] Kubuntu 8.04.1 Released

[Julio Cardoso]

Pessoal que gosta do kubuntu hj saiu uma versão nova do kubuntu 8.04.1 
acredito que com menos bugs.
Abraços

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[Ubuntu-BR] AJUDA - o Ubuntu 8.04 não incializ a e o 7.10 não reconhece a bateria - ACER

[Leonardo Bergamo]

Agradeço ao Peter Parker,

mas o note Acer 3050-1371 que estou mexendo tem uma placa ATI Radeom Xpress 1100

e não inicializa o Ubuntu 8.04, nem o live-cd (o 7.10 funciona, embora
não reconheça a bateria)

ALGUÉM MAIS PODE AJUDAR?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Duvida, init.d

[Julio Cardoso]

uma forma fácio de fazer isso é
coloca o script dentro da pasta /etc/init.d
e usa esse comando
sudo update-rc.d /etc/init.d/seuscript
qualquer duvida olha o man do comando
man update-rc.d
Flávio Alexandre escreveu:
 Pessoal,
 boa tarde
 preciso registar um acript pra que toda vez que a maquina ligar ele seja
 carregado, onde registro ele ?
 sei que deposi ele vai aparecer dentro do /etc/init.d/
 alguempode me dar uma ajdua ?
 att
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Meedoen met Ubuntu Belgiê

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Waw! Wat een mooie voorstelling (samen met mijn gratis Nederlands 
oefening) ! De perfecte vrijwilliger :-)

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Re: Прерывание сеанса кде при остановке си стемы по питанию

[Alexander Smirnov]

Aleck Mueller пишет:
 В сообщении от Wednesday 02 July 2008 14:18:56 Alexander Smirnov написал(а):
   
 Aleck Mueller пишет:
 
 Когда батарея ИБП почти разряжена, apcupsd инициирует shutdown. При этом
 вместо корректного завершения сеанс кде внезапно прерывается. Конечно,
 завершение сеанса кде - дело ОС, apcupsd просто инициирует shutdown (имхо
 в скрипте /etc/apcupsd/apccontrol для этого используется
 команда /sbin/shutdown -h now). Если кто-нибудь настраивал корректное
 завершение сеанса кде при этом, поделитесь пожалуйста.
   
 открой Управление питанием - левый щелчок на значке зеленой батарейки в
 трее, в разделе Battery powered  есть  комбо бокс, позволяющий выбрать
 поведение системы при достижении некоготоро порога разрядки батареи -
 When battery remaining time drops below
 Устанавливаешь нужное время и выбираешь поведение из списка - Do
 nothing, ждущий режим, спящий режим, shutdown

 У меня работает так.
 

 К сожалению, у меня в трее нет значка зеленой батарейки; облазил Настройки 
 системы - нет такого. Может быть у вас ноутбук? У меня речь шла о десктопе. 
 Если я чего-то не понял, извините.
Ах да, точно. Невнимательно прочел Ваше сообщение - там же ИБП. А я все 
про ноут писал.

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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Serge Matveenko]

2008/7/3 Dmitry Glazov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Хочется гуя - его в винде дохрена и больше...

эммм... дискриминация по интерфейсному признаку?

 Я под ним сижу уже больше 10 лет, и не думаю, что свистелки и перделки
 нужно тянуть с винды.

свистелки и перделки - да, с винды, потому что хороший гуй оттуда не
взять, там его попросту нет.

 Тем более, это все простое окошко - является бредом.
 Ибо оно просто в половине домнетов не заведется.

в открытой системе любой домнет моджет предоставить пользотвателю
готовый файл настройки просто окошка (и пусть на самом деле оно
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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Евсюков Денис]

Я уже продумываю о том, как реализовать данную возможность...
По сути создание двух пунктов: Высокая и Без защиты реализуются
очень просто... А какие пункты необходимо занести в пользовательский
вариант?

И какой есть вариант занесения данного окошка в административные задачи?

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03.07.08, Dmitry Agafonov[EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а):
 Ну, думаю, было бы достаточно простого окошка с настройками сетевой
 безопасности типа Высокая, Без защиты и пользовательская (со списком
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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Dmitry Glazov]

Serge Matveenko пишет:
 2008/7/3 Dmitry Glazov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Хочется гуя - его в винде дохрена и больше...
 
 эммм... дискриминация по интерфейсному признаку?
 
 Я под ним сижу уже больше 10 лет, и не думаю, что свистелки и перделки
 нужно тянуть с винды.
 
 свистелки и перделки - да, с винды, потому что хороший гуй оттуда не
 взять, там его попросту нет.

Ну мы как бы не обсуждаем, что там в той винде есть... :-)

 
 Тем более, это все простое окошко - является бредом.
 Ибо оно просто в половине домнетов не заведется.
 
 в открытой системе любой домнет моджет предоставить пользотвателю
 готовый файл настройки просто окошка (и пусть на самом деле оно
 улетит в iptables) по себя.

ГДЕ? :-)

Ни разу не видел нормального скрипта для iptables
в домосетях. :-)

А я ее видел не одну... :-)
А кучу воплей, как выйти в интернет в тех же домосетях из той же убунты 
- так встречаю регулярно.




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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Serge Matveenko]

2008/7/4 Dmitry Glazov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Тем более, это все простое окошко - является бредом.
 Ибо оно просто в половине домнетов не заведется.

 в открытой системе любой домнет моджет предоставить пользотвателю
 готовый файл настройки просто окошка (и пусть на самом деле оно
 улетит в iptables) по себя.

 ГДЕ? :-)

 Ни разу не видел нормального скрипта для iptables
 в домосетях. :-)

 А я ее видел не одну... :-)
 А кучу воплей, как выйти в интернет в тех же домосетях из той же убунты
 - так встречаю регулярно.

ну так это от того, что нету такого гуевого места куда можно было
некий файлик воткнуть, чтобы оно его скушало и заработало

я вот до сих пор не понимаю, почему мы смотрим на чужие гуи, но никак
не можем сделать гуев для себя, для тех уникальных возможностей,
которыми обладает наша ОС


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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Serge Matveenko]

2008/7/4 Serge Matveenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 я вот до сих пор не понимаю, почему мы смотрим на чужие гуи, но никак
 не можем сделать гуев для себя, для тех уникальных возможностей,
 которыми обладает наша ОС

кто тут грозился написать? создавайте проект на sf.net.
или мне создать? это просто немного запарно, я могу, но сам писать не буду;)


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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Олег Севостьянов]

Евсюков Денис пишет:
 По сути создание двух пунктов: Высокая и Без защиты реализуются
 очень просто... А какие пункты необходимо занести в пользовательский
 вариант?

Может сделать грубо галочки Разрешить bittorrent, FTP, HTTP и т.д.
А возможно туда же прикрутить вывод netstat?

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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Dmitry Glazov]

Serge Matveenko пишет:
 2008/7/4 Serge Matveenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 я вот до сих пор не понимаю, почему мы смотрим на чужие гуи, но никак
 не можем сделать гуев для себя, для тех уникальных возможностей,
 которыми обладает наша ОС
 
 кто тут грозился написать? создавайте проект на sf.net.
 или мне создать? это просто немного запарно, я могу, но сам писать не буду;)

ну вот примерно. Мне данный проект не интересен.
Ибо очень редко, когда я выползаю в инет с ноута через гпрс...
А даже если я вылез, так у меня там даже сервисы просто не запущены 
(слава switchconf!) :-)

Как оказалось, очень удобно. при регулярном обновлении - я не вижу 
необходимости в фиреволе. :-)




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Re: Apple PowerBook G4

[Vyacheslav Karamov]

Vyacheslav Karamov пишет:
 Nikita Gusakov пишет:

 Вот обзавелся случайно таким клевым девайсом, поставил на него 8.04.
 Работает все сказочно, вот только не могу настроить регулировку яркости
 экрана. Подскажите, может кто сталкивался, как победить?


 А что за видяха? Если ATI, то нет проблем, а вот с остальным не  получится.


Получилось настроить яркость?

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Re: Сборка ядра

[Andrey Petrenko]

Сергей Кузнецов пишет:
 Антон Ермоленко пишет:
   
 Доброго времени суток.
 Ситуэйшн: скачал ядро с kernel.org. ПОтом скопировал конфиг от
 своего ядра к этому скачанному ядру. Собираю. Собрал.
   
 
 Привет! Как собирал? подскажи плиз...
   

 make-kpkg clean
 fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version --sometext kernel_image 
 kernel_headers
 
 У вас появятся 2 деб файла, и просто потом их поставите, проверите, что 
 новое ядро прописалось в grub. Вот и всё.



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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Евсюков Денис]

Так...
Считаю вывод netstat лишним, по крайней мере пока.
Фтп, хттп более менее понятно. Но опять же только в стандартных
настройках. Может кто то захочет фтп повесить не на 21 порт, а
какой-то другой... Соответственно кроме галок получаем целый набор
вопросов, которые необходимо задать пользователю при настройке. Та же
ситуация и по торренту.

Завтра уезжаю примерно на неделю. Как приеду, займусь реализацией. Для
начала планирую - создание интерфейса, в котором происходит
переключение и написание двух скриптов - высокая защита (обеспечивает
разрешение исходящих и блокирование всех входящих, что не были
запрошены) и без защиты.

Пользовательские настройки надо будет еще продумать. И стоит ли вообще
их реализовывать...

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04.07.08, Олег Севостьянов[EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а):
 Может сделать грубо галочки Разрешить bittorrent, FTP, HTTP и т.д.
  А возможно туда же прикрутить вывод netstat?
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просмотр видеороликов

[Марфа Рыжая]

Здравствуйте. Вчера поставила ubuntu-8.04, зашла на сайт youtube, хотела 
посмотреть видеоролики. Вылезла такая информация, что у меня выключен 
JavaScript, либо старая версия Adobe Flash Player. Подскажите, пожалуйста, как 
правильно решить эту проблему. 
 Заранее благодарна. Марфа. 

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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Aleck Mueller]

В сообщении от Wednesday 02 July 2008 23:08:50 Dmitry Mityugov написал(а):
 shorewall. В освоении не самый лёгкий, но после чтения документации -
 наглядный и удобный.

 Есть ещё firestarter (наглядный и удобный даже без чтения
 документации) и ufw (увы, пока, на мой взгляд, не самый удобный)

Установил у себя Guarddog просто согласно цитате из Центра справки 
KDE: Guarddog is the firewall of choice for KDE. В теме он ни разу не был 
упомянут. Какие у него минусы?
В споры насчёт прямого использования iptables не вдаюсь, - не тот уровень.

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Re: Выбор Firewall

[Олег Севостьянов]

Евсюков Денис пишет:
 Считаю вывод netstat лишним, по крайней мере пока.

Имхо, вещь нужная. Я обычный пользователь и только недавно перелез с 
винды. Там я использовал Outpost. Иногда было очень полезно посмотреть 
что в данный момент полезло в интернет.

 Фтп, хттп более менее понятно. Но опять же только в стандартных
 настройках. Может кто то захочет фтп повесить не на 21 порт, а
 какой-то другой...

Можно сделать значения по умолчанию. Как правило этого будет достаточно, 
а для тех кому нужно настроить что-то специфическое можно сделать что-то 
вроде расширенных опций.

 Пользовательские настройки надо будет еще продумать. И стоит ли вообще
 их реализовывать...

Стоит, стоит :)

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Re: просмотр видеорол иков

[Vyacheslav Karamov]

Марфа Рыжая пишет:
 Здравствуйте. Вчера поставила ubuntu-8.04, зашла на сайт youtube, хотела 
 посмотреть видеоролики. Вылезла такая информация, что у меня выключен 
 JavaScript, либо старая версия Adobe Flash Player. Подскажите, пожалуйста, 
 как правильно решить эту проблему.
  Заранее благодарна. Марфа.


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А потом поставить. Кажется называется типа flash-plugin-nonfree

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