[ubuntu-art] Deadlines?
So, the second deadline has passed, and the final is coming up. Does anyone have a list of stuff that needs to be polished? Is this list even called to post feedback/bug report/ polish up whatever Canonical chooses/makes? I cant really find the answers on Google. I just find it strange that there was no response to deadline 2 having passed, no blog posts, no forum posts.. heck I cant even find what the deadlines are supposed to accomplish as the wiki pages for them don't exist.. now would be a good time to start drumming up the community imho.. Saleel V -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadlines?
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Saleel svela...@gmail.com wrote: I just find it strange that there was no response to deadline 2 having passed, no blog posts, no forum posts.. heck I cant even find what the deadlines are supposed to accomplish as the wiki pages for them don't exist.. now would be a good time to start drumming up the community imho.. This mailing list is not connected to Canonical's artistic process. We come up with our own things and Canonical takes them or leaves them at its discretion. Personally, I don't expect that Jaunty will have any significant artwork changes. Ryan -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] daniel's wallpapers
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:58 AM, shadowh511 shadow.h...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Prior ryanpr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM, daniel planas daniplana...@gmail.comwrote: hello, I'm creating a wallpaper for jaunty jackalope. discuss what changes need to please I like the less abstract version much better. The abstract one hardly resembles a jackalope, and the overall image doesn't elicit a wow or beautiful like the first one does. I would like to see more exploration of the first concept, especially with the way it contrasts dark and bright colors. Ryan first version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=Jauntybeta1.png new version(more abstract) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=jauntyrc.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art I see no problem in the abstract. facepalm/facepalm We should *SERIOUSLY* make an extra themes package for Jaunty and jaunty+1 -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Totally agree--the shiny bling of the less abstract is pretty dang cool. -- Peaces, Jake -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 45, Issue 29
- daniel's wallpapers I love seeing those horns as they remind me of the beautiful intrepid pictures. However in both the abstract and regular I feel the rabbit over all seems a little to fat. It should be more lean to represent the jackalope speed. Maybe slightly darker and more mysterious? ps. I too would love to see more new themes, removing some of the older ones. Can't wait for the Koala!!! On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:00 AM, ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Send ubuntu-art mailing list submissions to ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-art-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ubuntu-art digest... Today's Topics: 1. daniel's wallpapers (daniel planas) 2. Re: daniel's wallpapers (Ryan Prior) 3. Re: daniel's wallpapers (shadowh511) -- Forwarded message -- From: daniel planas daniplana...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:07:14 +0100 Subject: [ubuntu-art] daniel's wallpapers hello, I'm creating a wallpaper for jaunty jackalope. discuss what changes need to please first version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=Jauntybeta1.png new version(more abstract) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=jauntyrc.png -- Forwarded message -- From: Ryan Prior ryanpr...@gmail.com To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:21:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] daniel's wallpapers On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM, daniel planas daniplana...@gmail.comwrote: hello, I'm creating a wallpaper for jaunty jackalope. discuss what changes need to please I like the less abstract version much better. The abstract one hardly resembles a jackalope, and the overall image doesn't elicit a wow or beautiful like the first one does. I would like to see more exploration of the first concept, especially with the way it contrasts dark and bright colors. Ryan first version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=Jauntybeta1.png new version(more abstract) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=jauntyrc.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Forwarded message -- From: shadowh511 shadow.h...@gmail.com To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:58:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] daniel's wallpapers On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Prior ryanpr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM, daniel planas daniplana...@gmail.comwrote: hello, I'm creating a wallpaper for jaunty jackalope. discuss what changes need to please I like the less abstract version much better. The abstract one hardly resembles a jackalope, and the overall image doesn't elicit a wow or beautiful like the first one does. I would like to see more exploration of the first concept, especially with the way it contrasts dark and bright colors. Ryan first version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=Jauntybeta1.png new version(more abstract) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=jauntyrc.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art I see no problem in the abstract. facepalm/facepalm We should *SERIOUSLY* make an extra themes package for Jaunty and jaunty+1 -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] My mistake.
Eeek! Sorry for that awfully long post, as well as not including the subject. Shouldn't happen again ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] system-software-update (a quick idea)
On Mo, 2009-03-09 at 11:12 -0400, Cory K. wrote: Cory K. wrote: I think the idea is sound. I want the gloss pulled down on the arrow and I'd like you to work on the icon for the package manner at the same time. Package *manager -Cory K. :D Alright, Manager ;) No gloss? ... okay :) The Package-Manager I will do it, too. But firstly I must get my system work well. Kubuntu Jaunty is less stable that I thought. Maybe I must downgrade again ... :( Soon I will work over it again. Sincerly Oliver Scholtz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Jaunty Highway Background
I posted another Jaunty background for your consideration. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Impression/HighwayBackground The snapshot shows the image with a customizable vertical gradient color scheme. The format is 2560x1600 as suggested by Cory K. (thanks!) John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Jaunty Highway Background
Very cool background! I would go with diff colors but great wallpaper :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Ubuntu UMPC status
Hi, I tried the Ubuntu UMPC image located here on a 10 tablet PC with : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img Honestly, I think it is great. I've been looking for somehting like this for a while, and this is better than I was hoping for. However, I can't seem to find enough official pages about this project, so I was wondering if the project is still ongoing? The only problem I have is that it seemed to have detected an eGalax touchscreen, however, the Y coordinates seems to be reversed. I did the following to find out if it was eGalax and got output with eGalax in it: lshal | grep eGalax When I click the top, it clicks the bottom. Left and right are fine. I tried editing: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/50-eGalax.fdi And added: key=input.x11_options.swapy type=boolfalse/merge But nothing changed as I shutdown gdm and restarted it. Any ISOs instead of IMG? Any source files? Thanks --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ubuntu UMPC status
Ramaddan wrote:
However, I can't seem to find enough official pages about this project,
so I was wondering if the project is still ongoing?
There's not been a lot of people both excited about it and
committing their changes to the repo, and it's at least not listed as a
target release with 9.04. That said, there's no good reason why one
couldn't adjust the intrepid ubuntu-mobile-default-settings package to
work with 9.04, or continue development. I believe most people are
looking more at the netbook remix solution.
The only problem I have is that it seemed to have detected an eGalax
touchscreen, however, the Y coordinates seems to be reversed.
...
Please do file a bug about this, if it doesn't already exist.
Regardless of the activity of the Ubuntu UMPC effort, it represents a
bug in core Ubuntu that should be solved.
Any ISOs instead of IMG? Any source files?
There was a fair bit of debate about ISO vs. IMG at the UDS for
Jaunty. It was decided that only IMG files would be distributed, as so
many of the target devices didn't have onboard optical drives, yet were
capable of booting from USB.
The source is just the standard Ubuntu sources. In general, apt-get
source ${package} will get you the source for a given package (although
you may need to add deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list). You
can see which packages are currently installed with `dpkg -l` (be
warned: this will be a long list).
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Re: Ubuntu UMPC status
Here is a link about fixing the ts http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/linux/126173-lilliput-screen-ubuntu.html let me know how it goes yam125 -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ubuntu UMPC status
Hi Emmet,
Thanks for the reply. That's actually very sad to hear, as Ubuntu UMPC
seems to have a much cleaner and faster interface for touchscreens, unless
I am missing something.
That said, there's no good reason why one
couldn't adjust the intrepid ubuntu-mobile-default-settings package to
work with 9.04, or continue development.
I'm not really a developer, but studied programming in the past, to a
certain degree :-S
So basic in a sense, but I usually fool around files and tweak things here
and there when it makes sense to me.
How would I make these modifications to make a Ubuntu Jaunty UMPC version
for example? Is there a HOWTO page?
As for further development, I actually would like to take part in terms of
what I can at least.
Since I am not a developer, what other means can I take part in?
I can even try looking at the code and see if I can learn something if
someone is willing to show me the way.
It was decided that only IMG files would be distributed, as so
many of the target devices didn't have on board optical drives, yet were
capable of booting from USB.
Isn't ISO more supported though, and easier to modify, edit, etc.. in the
GNU/Linux world?
Thanks for the help.
Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 9 Mar 2009, 05:56 AM:
Subject: Re: Ubuntu UMPC status
Ramaddan wrote:
However, I can't seem to find enough official pages about this project,
so I was wondering if the project is still ongoing?
There's not been a lot of people both excited about it and
committing their changes to the repo, and it's at least not listed as a
target release with 9.04. That said, there's no good reason why one
couldn't adjust the intrepid ubuntu-mobile-default-settings package to
work with 9.04, or continue development. I believe most people are
looking more at the netbook remix solution.
The only problem I have is that it seemed to have detected an eGalax
touchscreen, however, the Y coordinates seems to be reversed.
...
Please do file a bug about this, if it doesn't already exist.
Regardless of the activity of the Ubuntu UMPC effort, it represents a
bug in core Ubuntu that should be solved.
Any ISOs instead of IMG? Any source files?
There was a fair bit of debate about ISO vs. IMG at the UDS for
Jaunty. It was decided that only IMG files would be distributed, as so
many of the target devices didn't have onboard optical drives, yet were
capable of booting from USB.
The source is just the standard Ubuntu sources. In general, apt-get
source ${package} will get you the source for a given package (although
you may need to add deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list). You
can see which packages are currently installed with `dpkg -l` (be
warned: this will be a long list).
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Re: Ubuntu UMPC status
Hi, I actually tried that before, but it didn't work, but due to your email, I tried again, but something different. My original settings were as follows in the following file: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/50-eGalax.fdi ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !-- -*- SGML -*- -- deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.product contains=eGalax match key=info.capabilities contains=input merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringevtouch/merge merge key=input.x11_options.minx type=string130/merge merge key=input.x11_options.miny type=string197/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maxx type=string3945/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maxy type=string3894/merge merge key=input.x11_options.taptimer type=string30/merge merge key=input.x11_options.longtouchtimer type=string750/merge merge key=input.x11_options.longtouched_action type=stringclick/merge merge key=input.x11_options.longtouched_button type=string3/merge merge key=input.x11_options.oneandhalftap_button type=string2/merge merge key=input.x11_options.movelimit type=string10/merge merge key=input.x11_options.touched_drag type=string1/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maybetapped_action type=stringclick/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maybetapped_button type=string1/merge /match /match /device /deviceinfo At first, I tried adding the following options: merge key=input.x11_options.rotate type=stringcw/merge merge key=input.x11_options.swapx type=boolfalse/merge merge key=input.x11_options.swapy type=boolfalse/merge For each change I did, I had to restart HAL by running: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart Then pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart Gnome for changes to take effect. For the rotation, I tried cw and ccw, and as expected, did not resolve my problem, but the options did take effect. I tried turning swapy at first, as that seemed the most obvious, and then swapx, and these options made no difference whether they were set to true or false. At this point I was goig to give up, until I decided to try things manually, as in why not manually switch Y values? So I changed the following values as folows: merge key=input.x11_options.miny type=string3894/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maxy type=string197/merge Restart HAL and Gnome, and this time it worked. YEY! The touch calibration was a bit off, so I tried againt the calibration tool that came with Ubuntu UMPC. It did not do anything, even after restart, as it also did not do anything when I tried it the first time I noticed the problem. However, I used the tool to my advantage. I read the coordinates spewed out when I clicked on the top left corner cross, and then the bottom right corner cross. I wrote those down and then applied them to the fdi file as follows: merge key=input.x11_options.minx type=string120/merge merge key=input.x11_options.miny type=string3830/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maxx type=string4025/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maxy type=string148/merge All in all, my final modifications were as follows: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !-- -*- SGML -*- -- deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.product contains=eGalax match key=info.capabilities contains=input merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringevtouch/merge merge key=input.x11_options.minx type=string120/merge merge key=input.x11_options.miny type=string3830/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maxx type=string4025/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maxy type=string148/merge merge key=input.x11_options.taptimer type=string30/merge merge key=input.x11_options.longtouchtimer type=string750/merge merge key=input.x11_options.longtouched_action type=stringclick/merge merge key=input.x11_options.longtouched_button type=string3/merge merge key=input.x11_options.oneandhalftap_button type=string2/merge merge key=input.x11_options.movelimit type=string10/merge merge key=input.x11_options.touched_drag type=string1/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maybetapped_action type=stringclick/merge merge key=input.x11_options.maybetapped_button type=string1/merge /match /match /device /deviceinfo And then all worked great and precise after that. So I still need to report a bug for this driver, or should I report a bug for the calibration tool instead? Thanks for the help. Jeff yam...@gmail.com wrote on 9 Mar 2009, 09:39 AM: Subject: Re: Ubuntu UMPC status Here is a link about fixing the ts http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/linux/126173-lilliput-screen-ubuntu.html let me know how it goes yam125 -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile Free POP3 Email from www.gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! --- Send big files for
Re: Ubuntu UMPC status
Ramaddan wrote: Thanks for the reply. That's actually very sad to hear, as Ubuntu UMPC seems to have a much cleaner and faster interface for touchscreens, unless I am missing something. Compare the ubuntu-mobile and ubuntu-desktop packages in Ubuntu 8.10. The differences are extremely small. As much as anything else, the differentiation of the UMPC flavour is no longer necessary, as the same effects can be achieved with the Desktop flavour, with only a couple local modifications (and these will become even fewer as the touchscreen drivers converge upstream). I'm not really a developer, but studied programming in the past, to a certain degree :-S So basic in a sense, but I usually fool around files and tweak things here and there when it makes sense to me. How would I make these modifications to make a Ubuntu Jaunty UMPC version for example? Is there a HOWTO page? I don't know of a HOWTO page, but most of the tweaks that make the UMPC flavour different from the Desktop flavour (gconf settings, etc.) are in the ubuntu-mobile-default-settings package in the intrepid repositories. As for further development, I actually would like to take part in terms of what I can at least. Since I am not a developer, what other means can I take part in? I can even try looking at the code and see if I can learn something if someone is willing to show me the way. Most of the development done in Ubuntu is essentially tweaking configuration, creating small patches, or merging them from other sources, and other integration effort. It's very useful to be able to read code, but there's lots of work that can be done without writing much code. Consider the adjustments you find most useful, and how they might affect others. If there's something you think is right for everyone, propose a change in the bugtracker. If there's something that needs adjustment only for certain hardware or use cases, see if you can find a way to have it conditionally enabled so it only applies in that environment, and propose that. Isn't ISO more supported though, and easier to modify, edit, etc.. in the GNU/Linux world? Well, I'm not sure about supported, but certainly more common. Personally, I think a .img file is easier to modify, as you can just loop-mount it, and don't have to remaster the ISO. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: [ubuntu-in] Why dhcp3 never works in ubuntu..?
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Priyadarsan Roy priyadarsan...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:12 AM, sanath kumar dayanandasarasw...@gmail.com wrote: Hello friends, I was trying to net boot my desktop machine. The desktop never is able to get the IP address from my laptop. I was examining the packets using wireshark. My desktop was sending dhcp request messages but my laptop never responds with any dhcp offer message. I tried various configurations of dhcp3 but none worked. Finally I uninstalled dhcp3-server and installed dnsmasq and in a jiffy my desktop picked up the IP address from my laptop and started to boot. Four of my friends also tried doing netboot with dhcp3-server but in vain. Why is dhcp3-server so badly written. And cant you ppl correct the bugs in it. Why is it a big headache to configure dhcp3-server. Cant any GUI be written for it..? I have not had a bad experience with dhcp3 server ever unless I made mistakes in the config file. I also do not understand how you started to get ip addressed when you installed dnsmasq. dnsmasq is some thing that works like a dns cacher for networks. Dnsmasq is a DHCP server cum DNS proxy cum DNS cacher. But dnsmasq is comparatively newer and less tested, or rather, more for the embedded platforms. dhcp3 should not give you problems. There must be some issue with your configuration. Thanks, Raseel. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] good pdf viewer and editer for ubuntu 8.10
Evince is one of the best PDF reader... I have acrobat and evince, but most of time I use Evince. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:33 AM, ambika divya ambikadi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all , I need a good pdf viewer and also good pdf editer for ubuntu 8.10. -- ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- -=Ravi=- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] IM client -pidgin problem
I don't want to change pidgin .Now what can i do . When i get one new mail it shows the notification of double the number of inbox mails . Any idea how can i rectify this Pidgin is muti support IM client . -- ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] IM client -pidgin problem
ambika divya wrote: I don't want to change pidgin .Now what can i do . When i get one new mail it shows the notification of double the number of inbox mails . Any idea how can i rectify this Pidgin is muti support IM client . I am not asking you to change pidgin. Just asking you to install one additional Firefox add-on if you keep your browser usually open. Regards, Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] IM client -pidgin problem
On 3/9/09, Manish Sinha (मनीष सिन्हा) m...@manishsinha.net wrote: When i get one new mail it shows the notification of double the number of inbox mails . Any idea how can i rectify this This is a bug in Pidgin. Look here http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/7048 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] IM client -pidgin problem
can it not rectified ? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Fabian Enos fabian.e...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/9/09, Manish Sinha (मनीष सिन्हा) m...@manishsinha.net wrote: When i get one new mail it shows the notification of double the number of inbox mails . Any idea how can i rectify this This is a bug in Pidgin. Look here http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/7048 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] error .....
System error .as follows . There was an error starting the GNOME setting daemon. The setting daemon restarted too many times. GNOME will still try to restart the setting daemon next time u log in . Please tell me what is going wrong with my linux system (hardy). What i did wrong ? PLease guide me to sort out this problem. I am not able to open my other harddisk partition. Help me guys -- ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
I am really new to linux What i did wrong , i don't know I need a stable kernel.Which not create problem easily . I also tried to set-up bluetooth .but failed. Can it be possible i can cancel all apps installation of certain period . windows user shifted to linux On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक] abhishek.amber...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:14 PM, ambika divya ambikadi...@gmail.com wrote: System error .as follows . There was an error starting the GNOME setting daemon. The setting daemon restarted too many times. GNOME will still try to restart the setting daemon next time u log in . Please tell me what is going wrong with my linux system (hardy). What i did wrong ? PLease guide me to sort out this problem. I am not able to open my other harddisk partition. Help me guys Seems you are facing problems with GNOME apps. Pidgin, RhythmBox and now GNOME settings daemon. All are crying. I don't have a solution for your problem but I can suggest you to try K Desktop Environment ( KDE ) or Kubuntu. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar Learn to appreciate a beauty within... -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
Relax Ambika, When you are in a new town, you do find it difficult to adapt. We are here to make you feel like home. I am really new to linux Once I was also new to Linux What i did wrong , i don't know I need a stable kernel.Which not create problem easily . Linux is also a stable kernel. All OS have their own share of problems. Creating an Operating System is a very daunting task. It's actually a Rocket Science of computers. I also tried to set-up bluetooth .but failed. Can you highlight for what you are trying to use Bluetooth? Bluetooth Dongle? or File Transfer from Phone? If its latter (file transfer) then install *obexpushd* package and open ApplicationsAccessoriesBluetooth File Transfer and then try transferring the files. Can it be possible i can cancel all apps installation of certain period . windows user shifted to linux All applications installed of certain period? Can you be more specific. We have many many converts from Windows to Linux and initially all of them have problems, but in the end they sail smoothly. :) Regards, Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] IM client -pidgin problem
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM, ambika divya ambikadi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to change pidgin .Now what can i do . When i get one new mail it shows the notification of double the number of inbox mails . Any idea how can i rectify this Pidgin is muti support IM client . I think pidgin is showing you the number of unread mails - just check ?? ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
Restart the system. If the error still occurs then it may be a problem with the configuration files. Restarting not works . You need to mount it. Please post the output of the command sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x52d89062 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 2324326041365f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda2 *3244648626049397+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda36487972926049397+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda5 21148 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sda611492295 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sda722963243 7614778+ b W95 FAT32 Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x21e9 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 11147 9213246c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sdb21148486529864835f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdb511482294 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb622953441 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb734424141 5622718+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb841424862 5791401b W95 FAT32 ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] IM client -pidgin problem
Actually it is new mail plus unread mails . On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM, ambika divya ambikadi...@gmail.comwrote: I don't want to change pidgin .Now what can i do . When i get one new mail it shows the notification of double the number of inbox mails . Any idea how can i rectify this Pidgin is muti support IM client . I think pidgin is showing you the number of unread mails - just check ?? ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:57 PM, ambika divya ambikadi...@gmail.com wrote: Restart the system. If the error still occurs then it may be a problem with the configuration files. Restarting not works . You need to mount it. Please post the output of the command sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x52d89062 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 2 3243 26041365 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda2 * 3244 6486 26049397+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda3 6487 9729 26049397+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda5 2 1148 9213246 b W95 FAT32 /dev/sda6 1149 2295 9213246 b W95 FAT32 /dev/sda7 2296 3243 7614778+ b W95 FAT32 Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x21e9 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 1147 9213246 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sdb2 1148 4865 29864835 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdb5 1148 2294 9213246 b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb6 2295 3441 9213246 b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb7 3442 4141 5622718+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb8 4142 4862 5791401 b W95 FAT32 Where's ext3? Have you installed Hardy on FAT32 filesystem? You should have installed it on Ext3 filesystem. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar Learn to appreciate a beauty within... -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक] wrote: Where's ext3? Have you installed Hardy on FAT32 filesystem? You should have installed it on Ext3 filesystem. Looks like I got why it is FAT32. Ambika, have you installed Ubuntu using Windows Installer called Wubi? Regards, Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
Guess, I googled a lot about this problem and in many places suggest to fix the time on system clock and reboot. Many have repoted to fix the problem by this method. System clock is locked just like other harddisk partition Wht can i do now? -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
sorry ,here system clock mean ..SYSTEM DATE AND TIME. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:23 AM, ambika divya ambikadi...@gmail.comwrote: Guess, I googled a lot about this problem and in many places suggest to fix the time on system clock and reboot. Many have repoted to fix the problem by this method. System clock is locked just like other harddisk partition Wht can i do now? amb...@ambika-desktop:~$ time-admin (time-admin:7328): Gtk-WARNING **: Unsupported tag for GtkWidget: atkproperty (time-admin:7328): Gtk-WARNING **: Unsupported tag for GtkWidget: atkproperty (time-admin:7328): Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: GtkCalendar.display-options (time-admin:7328): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated (time-admin:7328): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated (time-admin:7328): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated /usr/lib/policykit/polkit-read-auth-helper: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/policykit/polkit-read-auth-helper: undefined symbol: kit_getpwnam -- ambika visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] gnome setting error
ambika divya wrote: Guess, I googled a lot about this problem and in many places suggest to fix the time on system clock and reboot. Many have repoted to fix the problem by this method. System clock is locked just like other harddisk partition Wht can i do now? Setting time? Check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2685546postcount=3 Regards, Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Why dhcp3 never works in ubuntu..?
Dnsmasq is a DHCP server cum DNS proxy cum DNS cacher. But dnsmasq is comparatively newer and less tested, or rather, more for the embedded platforms. dhcp3 should not give you problems. There must be some issue with your configuration. Thanks, Raseel. I tried a variety of dhcp configurations but in vain. Can you suggest me a tutorial that can teach me how to set the configurations..? -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unable to open VLC,SMPLAYER,konqueror,etc.
Hello friends, I have installed Ubuntu-8.10(Intrepid Ibex) onto my machine. Most of the tools under GNOME are running fine,*except I am unable to run VLC,SMPLAYER,KONQUEROR in GNOME.* Whenever I click the icons of the aforesaid software ,nothing happens.Not a single activity goes on,regarding the above mentioned programs. But I have seen :Mplayer,Xine starting and running O.K. Please help me out. -- GOD BLESS US ALL!!! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unable to open VLC,SMPLAYER,konqueror,etc.
tabankg wrote: Hello friends, I have installed Ubuntu-8.10(Intrepid Ibex) onto my machine. Most of the tools under GNOME are running fine,*except I am unable to run VLC,SMPLAYER,KONQUEROR in GNOME.* Whenever I click the icons of the aforesaid software ,nothing happens.Not a single activity goes on,regarding the above mentioned programs. But I have seen :Mplayer,Xine starting and running O.K. Please help me out. -- GOD BLESS US ALL!!! i have faced this similar problem before...remove and installing the application again solved the problem...regards Jag -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] GNOME settings error
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 18:31 +, ubuntu-in-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Restart the system. If the error still occurs then it may be a problem with the configuration files. Restarting not works . You need to mount it. Please post the output of the command sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x52d89062 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 2324326041365f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda2 *3244648626049397+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda36487972926049397+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda5 21148 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sda611492295 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sda722963243 7614778+ b W95 FAT32 Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x21e9 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 11147 9213246c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sdb21148486529864835f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdb511482294 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb622953441 9213246b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb734424141 5622718+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb841424862 5791401b W95 FAT32 ambika Are you even sure that you have Ubuntu installed, and Abhishek Amberkar Linux can't be installed on Windows filesystems you have to use Linux filesystems only!!! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Alors, ghost ou pas?
Merci! 2009/3/9 André Cotte aco...@andrecotte.com Bonsoir Maxime, Remastersys peut mettre dans une image iso tout ton système Linux. Tu peux choisir deux options, backup ou distribution. Le backup inclut tout ton home directory donc tes données. La distribution ne prend pas ton home. En mode backup, c'est comme un ghost que tu peux réinstaller sur un disque dur par la suite. Tu peux donc réinstallé ton système et tes données. Bonne nuit André Cott Maxime Maguire a écrit : Bonjour André, pourrais-tu me dire ce que fait exactement remastersys en ce qui concerne les backups ( ex: type de fichier créé et procédure de récupération ) ? Merci. 2009/3/7 André Cotte aco...@andrecotte.com mailto:aco...@andrecotte.com Bonjour, Une solution originale, remastersys. Une limite cependant, celle des images .iso (4 Go) Comme c'est compressé, on peut avoir une machine qui en a plus. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remastersys Il sert aussi à faire des LiveCd « custom ». Je suis en train de monter un Ubuntu Colibris Remix avec ce logiciel. En fait un Ubuntu qui contiendra de préinstallés les logiciels de la compilation de logiciels libres Colibris pour Windows. http://zonecolibris.org/ Bonne journée André Cotte Gilbert Dion a écrit : Je relance une demande que j'ai faite il y a quelques jours et qui n'a pas eu d'écho... Personne d'entre vous ne se soucie de sauvegarder une image son système de temps à autre? Bien sûr, on trouve plein d'informations dans les forums et ailleurs, mais il m'est difficile de m'y retrouver. Souvent, les solutions ne sont pas simples et demandent des compétences que je n'ai pas nécessairement. J'aimerais juste avoir un avis ou deux sur la question. Tout ce que je veux faire, c'est sauvegarder l'image de mon système, tant sur mon AA1 que sur mon Acer Aspire 5050, tous deux en Ubuntu, version lpia pour le premier, 8.10 pour le second. Dire que bubakup fonctionnait parfaitement en 8.04! Dommage qu'il n'y ait pas de développement de ce côté concernant le fait qu'avec 8.10, ça ne marche plus. Et PING (Ping Is Not Ghost) se termine en queue de poisson. Merci d'avance, au cas... Gilbert gilbertdion @ gmail.com http://gmail.com -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com mailto: Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude proprietary device drivers (restricted) and allowed it to download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to re-install the whole of ubuntu from the restore disc all over again. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude proprietary device drivers (restricted) and allowed it to download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to re-install the whole of ubuntu from the restore disc all over again. I will repeat my previous advice -- forget restore disc, install from 8.10 instead. It's a more recent version of Ubuntu, should detect all your hardware fine and when 9.04 comes out you will be able to simply let it update. Why is it that you're so reluctant to do this? Surely if it fails you can THEN use the restore disc method? But it shouldn't fail... not in my experience... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
Or, alternatively try the Jaunty (9.04) beta when it comes out on the 21st of March, if you aren't afraid of testing new things. Among other things it should probably have improved hardware support. Harry Quoting Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude proprietary device drivers (restricted) and allowed it to download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to re-install the whole of ubuntu from the restore disc all over again. I will repeat my previous advice -- forget restore disc, install from 8.10 instead. It's a more recent version of Ubuntu, should detect all your hardware fine and when 9.04 comes out you will be able to simply let it update. Why is it that you're so reluctant to do this? Surely if it fails you can THEN use the restore disc method? But it shouldn't fail... not in my experience... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
I'm getting less reluctant all the time! On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 07:36 +, Sean Miller wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude proprietary device drivers (restricted) and allowed it to download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to re-install the whole of ubuntu from the restore disc all over again. I will repeat my previous advice -- forget restore disc, install from 8.10 instead. It's a more recent version of Ubuntu, should detect all your hardware fine and when 9.04 comes out you will be able to simply let it update. Why is it that you're so reluctant to do this? Surely if it fails you can THEN use the restore disc method? But it shouldn't fail... not in my experience... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On 09/03/09 07:22, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude proprietary device drivers (restricted) and allowed it to download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to re-install the whole of ubuntu from the restore disc all over again. I'm guessing you have an nvidia or ati graphics card? Both of these can use proprietary drivers to enable 3d acceleration (and advanced 2d acceleration on newer NV cards). Easiest way to fix it would be to install the drivers again (System Administration Hardware Drivers) rather than a complete restore / reinstall. It should also be possible to reconfigure X to use the appropriate FOSS driver if you want. (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
2009/3/9 Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com: I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude proprietary device drivers (restricted) and allowed it to That wasn't wise. I'd recommend learning what things are before randomly unclicking them :) download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to re-install the whole of ubuntu from the restore disc all over again. You didn't _have_ to, it was completely fixable with just a couple of commands. Knowing what they are is of course the issue, and I'd suggest not getting into that situation in the first place. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
2009/3/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: I will repeat my previous advice -- forget restore disc, install from 8.10 instead. That wouldn't help in this case. If he was running 8.10 vanilla and unticked 'restricted' he'd end up in pretty much the same place. It's not the install disc, it's the user that's at fault in this case. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
I think Sean's approach is a lot more sensible for someone in my position than yours, Al: especially because he included the magic words, It should detect all your hardware fine. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 07:36 +, Sean Miller wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude proprietary device drivers (restricted) and allowed it to download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to re-install the whole of ubuntu from the restore disc all over again. I will repeat my previous advice -- forget restore disc, install from 8.10 instead. It's a more recent version of Ubuntu, should detect all your hardware fine and when 9.04 comes out you will be able to simply let it update. Why is it that you're so reluctant to do this? Surely if it fails you can THEN use the restore disc method? But it shouldn't fail... not in my experience... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
2009/3/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Ah, hadn't spotted that... true... still am of the opinion, though, that if he's still at the stage where he can re-install (or restore or whatever) without losing things he'd do better with a more up-to-date, and vanilla, install. Sure, and I can understand that advice, completely. Half this problem seems, to me at least, to be to do with Rowan having lost confidence in the whole setup of his machine. I think Rowan is focussing on the non-free non-standard elements on his machine. Fact is the non-free non-standard bits are what is making it work. Remove those and it breaks. Update everything else, and not that bit and it breaks. That's it in a nutshell. Installing 8.10 and finding his machine works like magic may restore some of that. It may well do. It could be worth Rowans time to get the ISO for vanilla 8.10 and install it (given he's reinstalled from the recovery cd) to see if everything just works as you assert it should (and as indeed it _should_). However, the fact still remains that he'll likely lose any support from LC. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
2009/3/9 Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com: I think Sean's approach is a lot more sensible for someone in my position than yours, Al: especially because he included the magic words, It should detect all your hardware fine. _should_ Good luck. Let us know if it does, and if it doesn't I'm sure we can help. _however_ the solution _even_ if you are on 8.10 _may_ well still involve downloading some source code and manually compiling it. Don't think that running the latest version is some kind of panacea of magic workingness. It might be, but experience tells me it often isnt. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
If I was running a consistent and up to date version of the OS, the situation wouldn't arise in which I would be tempted to uncheck the drivers updates option. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 09:19 +, Sean Miller wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2009/3/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: I will repeat my previous advice -- forget restore disc, install from 8.10 instead. That wouldn't help in this case. If he was running 8.10 vanilla and unticked 'restricted' he'd end up in pretty much the same place. It's not the install disc, it's the user that's at fault in this case. Ah, hadn't spotted that... true... still am of the opinion, though, that if he's still at the stage where he can re-install (or restore or whatever) without losing things he'd do better with a more up-to-date, and vanilla, install. Half this problem seems, to me at least, to be to do with Rowan having lost confidence in the whole setup of his machine. Installing 8.10 and finding his machine works like magic may restore some of that. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: indeed it _should_). However, the fact still remains that he'll likely lose any support from LC. Is that a bad thing? If you take that to its logical conclusion then he'll never be able to upgrade anything in his life, which would be a shame... stuck with a Spring 2008 version for the rest of the machine's useful life... And he's supported here and, should he be a member, on the other Ubuntu lists so I can't really see what a great loss that'd be... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
2009/3/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: If you take that to its logical conclusion then he'll never be able to upgrade anything in his life, which would be a shame... stuck with a Spring 2008 version for the rest of the machine's useful life... Not true. You can't possibly know what extra versions LC will support in the future. I'm merely speaking about his current device supportability. And he's supported here and, should he be a member, on the other Ubuntu lists so I can't really see what a great loss that'd be... Sure, I was merely pointing it out so that he is aware that we might compromise it, it's his decision at the end of the day. Anyway, we're going round in circles. Enough now. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Good luck. Let us know if it does, and if it doesn't I'm sure we can help. _however_ the solution _even_ if you are on 8.10 _may_ well still involve downloading some source code and manually compiling it. Don't think that running the latest version is some kind of panacea of magic workingness. It might be, but experience tells me it often isnt. I think the point is that if it does not work he can always do his restore again from the vendor CD... there's no huge risk... it it works it works and if it doesn't it doesn't... but odds are if there is an issue that issue will have been present, or will be present, on his existing version. Bit of a suck it and see, but I would be interested to know the outcome. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
If all LinuxCertified did was buy a batch of snazzy Korean executive laptops, with Windows Vista already installed on them, and then install out-of-date and un-updatable versions of ubuntu on them, then tweak them to make it work as long as they weren't updated, then I would be better off without their support, and with the support of people in my own area who are familiar with the up-to-date versions of ubuntu, and can probably find any tweaks that may be necessary. I think all three of us are converging on that view. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 09:30 +, Sean Miller wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: indeed it _should_). However, the fact still remains that he'll likely lose any support from LC. Is that a bad thing? If you take that to its logical conclusion then he'll never be able to upgrade anything in his life, which would be a shame... stuck with a Spring 2008 version for the rest of the machine's useful life... And he's supported here and, should he be a member, on the other Ubuntu lists so I can't really see what a great loss that'd be... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
I wouldn't mind installing 8.10, and then I could run all the updates as and when they appear, and enjoy all the cutting edge improvements. But it's true that I do not know whether the non-default interface driver was necessitated by the particular interface card used by Compal, the manufacturer of the machine, in which case my problem would re-appear even on 8.10, wouldn't it? I didn't try running the kernel re-install disc, because then I would have had to find all the essential applications somehow, including the one needed to find them online, i.e., the Internet browser, it seems to me, whereas I would hope that a complete new install of 8.10 would include a browser. To be stuck without a browser and without an installable version on disc ready in advance would be fatal, wouldn't it? Mon, 2009-03-09 at 11:29 +, Tony Travis wrote: Rowan Berkeley wrote: If all LinuxCertified did was buy a batch of snazzy Korean executive laptops, with Windows Vista already installed on them, and then install out-of-date and un-updatable versions of ubuntu on them, then tweak them to make it work as long as they weren't updated, then I would be better off without their support, and with the support of people in my own area who are familiar with the up-to-date versions of ubuntu, and can probably find any tweaks that may be necessary. I think all three of us are converging on that view. Hello, Rowan. Hang on a bit! - Ubuntu 8.04 LTS is not out-of-date, it's a LONG TERM SUPPORT release and there is no reason why you should not continue to use it if that's what LC support, and you don't want to install 8.10 yourself. Did you try my advice of booting the kernel originally supplied by LC? I don't think the 'restricted' drivers are the problem, it's the fact that LC installed a non-standard kernel module for your NIC. However, this should not be a problem if you boot from the kernel they supplied. People on this list should know better than to start talking to you about different releases of Ubuntu as if that will solve your problem without making it clear that it's the version of the kernel in these releases that will solve your problem because they have an updated realtek NIC driver in them - Like the one LC compiled for you! The negativity of this thread is contrary to the spirit of Ubuntu. let's be a bit more positive in our advice to Rowan and help him to understand why his Ubuntu 8.04 is broken. Then, he can make an informed decision about where to go from there. Criticising LC for installing 8.04 LTS is not constructive and flies in the face of Canonical's LTS strategy. Bye, Tony. p.s. I'm using 8.04 LTS on my laptop and will continue to do so ;-) -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
Hello, Michael, That's very nice of you to offer. You wouldn't want to come round here though, this place is unbelievably horrible, believe me. It has serious rising damp and galloping fungus mould all over the walls, and I am in dispute with my landlords about it even as we speak, with the assistance of the borough Environmental Health Officer, who agrees that I should be rehoused ASAP. I would find it much easier to come to wherever is convenient to you, sciatica or no sciatica. I didn't want to come to the Bug Jam because it would have involved a lot of standing around, but a one-to-one in reasonable comfort is no problem. My personal email is rowan dot berkeley at googlemail dot com, so drop me a message off-list to set up a place and time convenient to you. Thanks again, I really appreciate this offer, Rowan On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 11:35 +, Michael G Fletcher wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: If all LinuxCertified did was buy a batch of snazzy Korean executive laptops, with Windows Vista already installed on them, and then install out-of-date and un-updatable versions of ubuntu on them, then tweak them to make it work as long as they weren't updated, then I would be better off without their support, and with the support of people in my own area who are familiar with the up-to-date versions of ubuntu, and can probably find any tweaks that may be necessary. I think all three of us are converging on that view. Hi Rowan I live in London and think it might be time that we organised to meet up and try sort out some of your problems. I didn't offer hands on help the first time you asked because I know nothing of DKMS. I'd be willing to come around to your place and see what we can do... either going with a vanilla install of 8.10 (or 8.04 LTS) or trying to see if we can easily fix the network driver problem causing all the issues. Let me know --Michael _ Michael Fletcher Visit my website here - http://www.mgfletcher.com/blog Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I wouldn't mind installing 8.10, and then I could run all the updates as and when they appear, and enjoy all the cutting edge improvements. But it's true that I do not know whether the non-default interface driver was necessitated by the particular interface card used by Compal, the manufacturer of the machine, in which case my problem would re-appear even on 8.10, wouldn't it? I didn't try running the kernel re-install disc, because then I would have had to find all the essential applications somehow, including the one needed to find them online, i.e., the Internet browser, it seems to me, whereas I would hope that a complete new install of 8.10 would include a browser. To be stuck without a browser and without an installable version on disc ready in advance would be fatal, wouldn't it? Ah, I think I see where your reluctance to install a fresh and new Ubuntu stems from - you are still completely engrossed in the windows model of computing. 1. Installing Ubuntu from the CD (downloaded off the website) will give you a fully function computer. by default practically everything you need is installed. things like firefox, openoffice, synaptic and many many more applications will be ready to go from the very beginning! With windows all you get is a basic operating system. 2. If you download 8.10, burn it to CD, insert it into your CD drive and reboot the machine (I think you mentioned pressing F12 and selecting boot from CD) you will have an option there to try Ubuntu without changing anything.. or something to that effect. this is called running a LiveCD - it basically gives you a picture of how Ubuntu will work on your machine (only a little slower cause it needs to constantly load info from the CD) but it will show you if the network driver that installs will work with your laptop. So whilst running the LiveCD, plug in the network cable and see if you have internet connectivity. if it works, then double click the install item. If it doesn't work, reboot, remove the CD and your computer is exactly the same as you left! (I hope I'm not being condescending my possibly explaining something that you already know!) Cheers --Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
Indeed, I was laboring under a misconception there. It sounds quite straightforward, when you explain it like that ... On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:13 +, Michael G Fletcher wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I wouldn't mind installing 8.10, and then I could run all the updates as and when they appear, and enjoy all the cutting edge improvements. But it's true that I do not know whether the non-default interface driver was necessitated by the particular interface card used by Compal, the manufacturer of the machine, in which case my problem would re-appear even on 8.10, wouldn't it? I didn't try running the kernel re-install disc, because then I would have had to find all the essential applications somehow, including the one needed to find them online, i.e., the Internet browser, it seems to me, whereas I would hope that a complete new install of 8.10 would include a browser. To be stuck without a browser and without an installable version on disc ready in advance would be fatal, wouldn't it? Ah, I think I see where your reluctance to install a fresh and new Ubuntu stems from - you are still completely engrossed in the windows model of computing. 1. Installing Ubuntu from the CD (downloaded off the website) will give you a fully function computer. by default practically everything you need is installed. things like firefox, openoffice, synaptic and many many more applications will be ready to go from the very beginning! With windows all you get is a basic operating system. 2. If you download 8.10, burn it to CD, insert it into your CD drive and reboot the machine (I think you mentioned pressing F12 and selecting boot from CD) you will have an option there to try Ubuntu without changing anything.. or something to that effect. this is called running a LiveCD - it basically gives you a picture of how Ubuntu will work on your machine (only a little slower cause it needs to constantly load info from the CD) but it will show you if the network driver that installs will work with your laptop. So whilst running the LiveCD, plug in the network cable and see if you have internet connectivity. if it works, then double click the install item. If it doesn't work, reboot, remove the CD and your computer is exactly the same as you left! (I hope I'm not being condescending my possibly explaining something that you already know!) Cheers --Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
I hadn't considered the LiveCD aspect... you are, of course, absolutely right Michael. So there's no need for Rowan to even install to prove that 8.10 brings up the network without any problems. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed, I was laboring under a misconception there. It sounds quite straightforward, when you explain it like that ... Great! I think it explains where some of the frustration was creeping into the list from :-) Something we need to work on, making sure that advise is targeted with the correct background information. What many saw as simple is not actually totally intuitive to somebody completely new to Ubuntu/Linux. Will you be able to download 8.10 on your old sony machine and burn it to disc, or would you like me to pop a copy in the post for you? Who knows, with our wonderful royal mail it may even be in your hands tomorrow and you can solve it all yourself :-) --Michael _ Michael Fletcher Visit my website here - http://www.mgfletcher.com/blog Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
But I would have lost all my applications if I had done what Tony suggested earlier, here is what he said: Did you try my advice of booting the kernel originally supplied by LC? I don't think the 'restricted' drivers are the problem, it's the fact that LC installed a non-standard kernel module for your NIC. However, this should not be a problem if you boot from the kernel they supplied. People on this list should know better than to start talking to you about different releases of Ubuntu as if that will solve your problem without making it clear that it's the version of the kernel in these releases that will solve your problem because they have an updated realtek NIC driver in them - Like the one LC compiled for you! You see I did ask LinuxCertified about the two discs they supplied, and they confirmed that the one I have now used twice has all the applications, but the other one has none of them. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:23 +, Sean Miller wrote: I hadn't considered the LiveCD aspect... you are, of course, absolutely right Michael. So there's no need for Rowan to even install to prove that 8.10 brings up the network without any problems. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Michael G Fletcher mich...@ilovemylinux.com wrote: Great! I think it explains where some of the frustration was creeping into the list from :-) Something we need to work on, making sure that advise is targeted with the correct background information. What many saw as simple is not actually totally intuitive to somebody completely new to Ubuntu/Linux. I am quite prepared to admit that this was the situation in my case... I didn't spot the Microsoft-thinking at all (ie. that the vendors had supplied software as well as the OS) but the minute that you pointed it out Rowan's message about kernel etc. made perfect sense. I've been using Linux for too long, I think. But very good advice! Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: You see I did ask LinuxCertified about the two discs they supplied, and they confirmed that the one I have now used twice has all the applications, but the other one has none of them. Be very interested to find out what this first disc is... the other one you refer to that you restored from must, surely, also contain the original kernel? Unless it's only a partial system restore... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
Michael, I am actually using the new machine right now, with the updater switched off. When this email came, I was just gonna go out and buy a pack of blank CD/R-W's. But since you offer, a ready-burned copy would be very nice. As it happens, everything on this list gets crawled by Google, so I shan't post my home address, but I'll send it to you off-list by email right now. I think your email address is in these list messages, as in fact is mine, but if not please email me off-list and tell me what it is. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:30 +, Michael G Fletcher wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed, I was laboring under a misconception there. It sounds quite straightforward, when you explain it like that ... Great! I think it explains where some of the frustration was creeping into the list from :-) Something we need to work on, making sure that advise is targeted with the correct background information. What many saw as simple is not actually totally intuitive to somebody completely new to Ubuntu/Linux. Will you be able to download 8.10 on your old sony machine and burn it to disc, or would you like me to pop a copy in the post for you? Who knows, with our wonderful royal mail it may even be in your hands tomorrow and you can solve it all yourself :-) --Michael _ Michael Fletcher Visit my website here - http://www.mgfletcher.com/blog Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
Yes, both discs they supplied contain their non-default driver along with all of the (otherwise standard) kernel components, but the one I used also contains the applications, whereas the other doesn't. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:41 +, Sean Miller wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: You see I did ask LinuxCertified about the two discs they supplied, and they confirmed that the one I have now used twice has all the applications, but the other one has none of them. Be very interested to find out what this first disc is... the other one you refer to that you restored from must, surely, also contain the original kernel? Unless it's only a partial system restore... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Apt Authentication Issue......
I had a message to tell me that during an update, it failed with an authentication issue. i followed the instructions, but got an error message, something to do with E failing to update. I was just wondering, does anybody have any ideaas why that should have happened? Thank you. John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Apt Authentication Issue......
John wrote: I had a message to tell me that during an update, it failed with an authentication issue. i followed the instructions, but got an error message, something to do with E failing to update. I was just wondering, does anybody have any ideaas why that should have happened? I got something like that in a recent update - an authentication key (for one of the Ubuntu community repos, IIRC) was out of date. I ignored it, and the update went ahead anyway. Updates have been running OK since - I guess someone renewed the key. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
Rowan Berkeley wrote: But I would have lost all my applications if I had done what Tony suggested earlier, here is what he said: Did you try my advice of booting the kernel originally supplied by LC? [...] Hello, Rowan. No you wouldn't! You can boot different kernels under the same 'distribution' of Linux: The kernel is more or less independent of the rest of the distribution. You can update your 'userland' (i.e. all your applications) but still run the previous Linux kernel.The modules used by a particular kernel are stored in a folder under /lib for that particular kernel. if you list them in reverse order like this, you should see the same list you get in the GRUB menu at boot-time: ls -rl /lib/modules total 12 drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2009-02-11 12:28 2.6.24-23-generic drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2008-12-07 15:22 2.6.24-22-generic drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-01-14 10:03 2.6.24-16-generic In my case, the oldest kernel is 2.6.24-16-generic. My suggestion was that you try to boot the Linux kernel that came with the LC product recovery disks, after having upgraded the rest of the distribution. All you have to do is select the kernel at boot time by pressing Esc at the GRUB prompt (i.e. when you computer boots). Look down the list and select the oldest kernel at the bottom of the list. Knowing how to do this might help you solve problems in the future caused by a kernel upgrade. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates
Ah, I see. I thought you were talking about using the other disc that came with the machine, the one without the apps. So I had completely the wrong idea of what you meant. Thanks. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 16:02 +, Tony Travis wrote: Rowan Berkeley wrote: But I would have lost all my applications if I had done what Tony suggested earlier, here is what he said: Did you try my advice of booting the kernel originally supplied by LC? [...] Hello, Rowan. No you wouldn't! You can boot different kernels under the same 'distribution' of Linux: The kernel is more or less independent of the rest of the distribution. You can update your 'userland' (i.e. all your applications) but still run the previous Linux kernel.The modules used by a particular kernel are stored in a folder under /lib for that particular kernel. if you list them in reverse order like this, you should see the same list you get in the GRUB menu at boot-time: ls -rl /lib/modules total 12 drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2009-02-11 12:28 2.6.24-23-generic drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2008-12-07 15:22 2.6.24-22-generic drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-01-14 10:03 2.6.24-16-generic In my case, the oldest kernel is 2.6.24-16-generic. My suggestion was that you try to boot the Linux kernel that came with the LC product recovery disks, after having upgraded the rest of the distribution. All you have to do is select the kernel at boot time by pressing Esc at the GRUB prompt (i.e. when you computer boots). Look down the list and select the oldest kernel at the bottom of the list. Knowing how to do this might help you solve problems in the future caused by a kernel upgrade. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar
You might be able to do something (limited) similar to SongPro using OpenOffice Presentation. Alternatively, check out the Ubuntu Christian Edition forum - there are loads of people discussing your use case example here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=168 http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/wiki/doku.php A 2009/3/6 red rik_bol...@btinternet.com My house mate tonight has finaly taken the step to the world of Unbuntu! He is going to use Audacity to do live recording at Uni Christian Union, but we also need an application the we can import Christian worship song on and do live updating. We connect this through a projector! Can any one help with knowledge base of software that we can use. Shalom Rik -- 15 Stanley Place, Lancaster, LA1 5PN rik_bol...@btinternet.com - 07866439588 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar
This thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388014 has a list of alternatives (although you may need to re-import your songs if that's how it works - I've never used this kind of software before!) POST #7: Re: Worship Software Our church uses SongBeamer, which is commercial and only available for Windows. But it is very productive! Free worship software is: * OpenSong [Windows AND Linux!!!] * Lyricue [Linux] * openlp [Windows, Linux-version planned] * Easislides [Windows] * DreamBeam [Windows] * BeamIt [Windows, don't know if it is still under development...] * Zionworx [Windows] * PowerWorship [Windows] * The Beamer Project [Windows] Last edited by xilix; August 22nd, 2007 at 07:24 AM.. # Hope this helps, Matt Quoting Anders Jacobsen andersja+lists-ubuntu...@gmail.com: You might be able to do something (limited) similar to SongPro using OpenOffice Presentation. Alternatively, check out the Ubuntu Christian Edition forum - there are loads of people discussing your use case example here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=168 http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/wiki/doku.php A 2009/3/6 red rik_bol...@btinternet.com My house mate tonight has finaly taken the step to the world of Unbuntu! He is going to use Audacity to do live recording at Uni Christian Union, but we also need an application the we can import Christian worship song on and do live updating. We connect this through a projector! Can any one help with knowledge base of software that we can use. Shalom Rik -- 15 Stanley Place, Lancaster, LA1 5PN rik_bol...@btinternet.com - 07866439588 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] get_iPlayer
I'm using get_iplayer through command line, works perfectly for me, now I know how to use it. Apart from when I try to get a programme and it says that no iphone version is available and fails to download. David King Tim Dobson wrote: Gerald Williams wrote: Hi all http://beebhack.wikia.com is where all the iplayer downloading stuff gets best documented and discussed. Personally, I prefer the iplayer_automator shell script which is a wrapper for iplayer-dl I think but presents a relatively friendly interface... Tim -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar
This is something I am also interested in. I had a look at the program, installing it from the Ubuntu repositories. However, there seems to be no menu entry created for it and when I run it, nothing much seems to happen, e.g. I click on a hymn and put that into the playlist, click on Show but nothing happens. Worth exploring more, but so far not getting very far. David King Daniel Lamb wrote: http://www.adebenham.com/lyricue/ is the only opensource worship software for linux i can find. Hope it works out for you. Daniel Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Quoting red rik_bol...@btinternet.com: My house mate tonight has finaly taken the step to the world of Unbuntu! He is going to use Audacity to do live recording at Uni Christian Union, but we also need an application the we can import Christian worship song on and do live updating. We connect this through a projector! Can any one help with knowledge base of software that we can use. Do you know which format the song is in? M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar
That Lyricue looks good... very good, in fact. How does it sync with the music? Does it play the music too, perhaps from MIDI files? Or, if it's a folk band, organist etc. do they have to ensure they keep in time with the software? Can just imagine the frustration of working the thing if the organist then decides to have a slow day and plays at half tempo... arrrggghhh!! :-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
has the problem with speech in 9.04 been pinpointed
Hi, has the problem with speech in 9.04 been determined as a problem with espeak? If so, is there any work around? Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
speech in 9.04 kind of works after update
Hi, I just got updates for 9.04 and Orca talks, but so fast you can't understand it. My daughter helped me set the rate, but it made no difference. I will download a live CD tomorrow and see if the problem was on my machine. Maybe another update from another day is causing problems. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
LTS overlay PPA
Hey folks, As you know, I've been maintaining a sort of backports repo in my PPA. It started out as a very personal thing. Hardy needed a few updates in order to work well for me, so I thought the PPA could cover the compilation part instead of my own machine. As a bonus, those updates could be used by anyone who dared to take the risk. Mainly it was ffado and jack I needed, but then I started backporting some core applications as well, like ardour. After a while, I started backporting plugins and rebuild applications against them, and so on and so forth. I've had my doubts about the PPA, as I really think things would be better ending up in the official channels, but the fact is that this review-less backporting can happen much faster (for better or worse), and requires very little effort from me. For example, I simply backported scons from Jaunty in order to avoid the scons problems we had wrt building ardour. Since scons only is a build dependency, I could later remove scons from the PPA. This is of course not ideal, but it's easily done. The people who have contacted me generally are happy with the updated packages, and I've made sure to point out every time that the backports are neither supported by Ubuntu nor the Studio team, nor anyone else for that matter. And that they might face a variety of weird problems. I'd like to start up a new PPA that only includes backports for the latest LTS release of Studio, a sort of rolling-release overlay on the LTS. I don't want people to think it's an official -studio thing, but I think it could benefit both users (and possibly also -studio) if those who want up-to-date packages on a solid LTS base would have this choice. So, the questions are: can I go ahead and start this PPA? Would this cause any issues because of the fact that I'm part of the team? I'm happy to do this on my own, without and -studio support, but maybe there would be a point in announcing it as a non-supported semi-official -studio thing? Any thoughts on this? Assuming I'll do it as personal thing, I'll of course continue to put most of my effort in official backporting and packaging anyway. This will remain a low-priority thing. I won't start a PPA like this if the team believes it to either take focus off Studio, or somehow harm our other efforts. Really, I'd just like to use my own PPA for other stuff and have an LTS-studio-overlay PPA for this stuff. Thoughts? Regards, Khashayar -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: New notification system.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ok. I'm not convinced this is right for Studio this release. My vote is to remove it and revisit it for Karmic. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel I'm not on the studio team, but I see no major issues with it. Removing it could cause many newbies great confusion and possibly troubleshooting woes. My vote is to keep it - if I get a vote. -Eric (aka. stochastic) -- ___ http://greyrockstudio.blogspot.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: New notification system.
Eric Hedekar wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ok. I'm not convinced this is right for Studio this release. My vote is to remove it and revisit it for Karmic. I'm not on the studio team, but I see no major issues with it. Removing it could cause many newbies great confusion and possibly troubleshooting woes. My vote is to keep it - if I get a vote. Confusion how? *Technically* there's no reason it won't work. We'll just use the old system. I don't feel it's mature enough for now. Also, this (the new system) is really more for desktop users atm. Studio isn't a desktop distro. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: New notification system.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Eric Hedekar wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ok. I'm not convinced this is right for Studio this release. My vote is to remove it and revisit it for Karmic. I'm not on the studio team, but I see no major issues with it. Removing it could cause many newbies great confusion and possibly troubleshooting woes. My vote is to keep it - if I get a vote. Confusion how? The confusion I thought might arise would be from new users who rely heavily on forum posts, howtos, and regular ubuntu documentation etc... that all say their computer should behave in way_X and actually behaves in way_Y. From reading many posts in the forums, I've seen quite a few newbies who still can't understand why Intrepid's RT kernel doesn't work well for audio - despite the many many many warnings on all the documentation. (I'm just using this particular bug as a documentation/new user issue, I'm in no way comparing kernels to notifications) I will fully admit that I haven't researched how ready the notification system is yet, but I've had only minor glitches through most of my Jaunty testing (seems to be working right now). -Eric Hedekar -- ___ http://greyrockstudio.blogspot.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[gedit] Edit a text file as root when a user is in admin group
Hi, I think it would be handy to have an option to open file with text editor as root, especially, when recovering a system from a live CD, but not only in that case. It would be useful just any time a user is told to edit a system file by hand, which still can happen sometimes. Now the user has to use a terminal, know sudo and more. I guess there are basically two ways to do it, add support to gedit for gaining privileged permissions only for read/save operations, but all that gobject code is a bit too scary for me :-) or much easier but potentially not that secure way: It could be enough to install a file like this: $ cat /usr/share/application-registry/gksudogedit.applications gksudogedit command=gksudo gedit name=Text editor as root can_open_multiple_files=false expects_uris=true uses_gnomevfs=true requires_terminal=false mime_types=text/*,text/html,text/plain (with permissions root:admin 750) and run update-mime-database and so on. regards, Lukáš Vacek -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
[Bug 336647] Re: Please merge pidgin 2.5.5 from Debian
unsubscribing sponsors since there is no nothing to sponsor there yet -- Please merge pidgin 2.5.5 from Debian https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336647 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
[Bug 336647] Re: Please merge pidgin 2.5.5 from Debian
doing the update would be a good idea indeed -- Please merge pidgin 2.5.5 from Debian https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336647 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Join the Debian Multimedia Team!
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Cory K. wrote: I really hope this come to something. Since I started Studio I've had like 3 people that worked out packaging-wise. It would be great to add another person or 2. Unfortunately, getting people to work between Debian/Ubuntu is a commitment most people just don't wanna bother with. Are you on the Debian multimedia team currently? Yes, let's hope so. I'm not official in the Debian Multimedia Team, but I started with it today actually. I'm trying to build klick (metronome) and maybe will take a look at rakarrack. The great thing about building for the Debian Multimedia Team is that you work in a team, so you get easily assistance and help. Also, like I said, you don't have to become a full Debian developer, you just can stay a package maintainer, which gives a lot opportunities for building multimedia packages. Come on people * One Debian/Ubuntu-multimedia-user, One package! *All the best. \r @ Cory and others, Do you know multimedia packages which are in Debian and not in Ubuntu or vice versa? \r -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Join the Debian Multimedia Team!
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: Grammostola Rosea wrote: Cory K. wrote: I really hope this come to something. Since I started Studio I've had like 3 people that worked out packaging-wise. It would be great to add another person or 2. Unfortunately, getting people to work between Debian/Ubuntu is a commitment most people just don't wanna bother with. Are you on the Debian multimedia team currently? Yes, let's hope so. I'm not official in the Debian Multimedia Team, but I started with it today actually. I'm trying to build klick (metronome) and maybe will take a look at rakarrack. The great thing about building for the Debian Multimedia Team is that you work in a team, so you get easily assistance and help. Also, like I said, you don't have to become a full Debian developer, you just can stay a package maintainer, which gives a lot opportunities for building multimedia packages. Come on people * One Debian/Ubuntu-multimedia-user, One package! *All the best. \r @ Cory and others, Do you know multimedia packages which are in Debian and not in Ubuntu or vice versa? I would definitely want to package for debian, and then have packages synced to ubuntu automatically. I'm currently packaging pencil for ubuntu, and will probably try to repackage it for debian further down the road. My problem with debian packaging currently, is that I'm not at all familiar with the tools and so on. I simply don't feel at home. With Ubuntu I have two invaluable tools: prevu and the PPA. Prevu (which is a wrapper of sorts around pbuilder), because it's the first thing I came over, and it's so simple to use that I haven't bothered learning pbuilder. Also, launchpad is neat, I can't get used to the email based BTS of debian's. However, I have my mind set on learning and getting used to the debian way of things. As soon as I find the time. Regards, Khashayar -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Join the Debian Multimedia Team!
Khashayar Naderehvandi wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: Grammostola Rosea wrote: Cory K. wrote: I really hope this come to something. Since I started Studio I've had like 3 people that worked out packaging-wise. It would be great to add another person or 2. Unfortunately, getting people to work between Debian/Ubuntu is a commitment most people just don't wanna bother with. Are you on the Debian multimedia team currently? Yes, let's hope so. I'm not official in the Debian Multimedia Team, but I started with it today actually. I'm trying to build klick (metronome) and maybe will take a look at rakarrack. The great thing about building for the Debian Multimedia Team is that you work in a team, so you get easily assistance and help. Also, like I said, you don't have to become a full Debian developer, you just can stay a package maintainer, which gives a lot opportunities for building multimedia packages. Come on people * One Debian/Ubuntu-multimedia-user, One package! *All the best. \r @ Cory and others, Do you know multimedia packages which are in Debian and not in Ubuntu or vice versa? I would definitely want to package for debian, and then have packages synced to ubuntu automatically. I'm currently packaging pencil for ubuntu, and will probably try to repackage it for debian further down the road. My problem with debian packaging currently, is that I'm not at all familiar with the tools and so on. I simply don't feel at home. With Ubuntu I have two invaluable tools: prevu and the PPA. Prevu (which is a wrapper of sorts around pbuilder), because it's the first thing I came over, and it's so simple to use that I haven't bothered learning pbuilder. Also, launchpad is neat, I can't get used to the email based BTS of debian's. However, I have my mind set on learning and getting used to the debian way of things. As soon as I find the time. You're right if you say that building your first package for Debian will cost you more time and effort. But when you build the packages 'The Debian way' you got quality packages for sure! It also improves you Debian skills and so also your Ubuntu skills! Packaging with the easy tools and for PPA has some disadvantages. For example with PPA, the packages are not well tested on the different Ubuntu editions... I think to start with email could be neat, but after you're used to it, you don't want different I think ;) Btw I discovered you got some nice help from the Debian Multimedia Team and also from Debian mentors with building your (first) packages!! http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/welcome http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-ment...@lists.debian.org/info.html Good luck! \r ps. nice pbuilder howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Join the Debian Multimedia Team!
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Khashayar Naderehvandi wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: Grammostola Rosea wrote: Cory K. wrote: I really hope this come to something. Since I started Studio I've had like 3 people that worked out packaging-wise. It would be great to add another person or 2. Unfortunately, getting people to work between Debian/Ubuntu is a commitment most people just don't wanna bother with. Are you on the Debian multimedia team currently? Yes, let's hope so. I'm not official in the Debian Multimedia Team, but I started with it today actually. I'm trying to build klick (metronome) and maybe will take a look at rakarrack. The great thing about building for the Debian Multimedia Team is that you work in a team, so you get easily assistance and help. Also, like I said, you don't have to become a full Debian developer, you just can stay a package maintainer, which gives a lot opportunities for building multimedia packages. Come on people * One Debian/Ubuntu-multimedia-user, One package! *All the best. \r @ Cory and others, Do you know multimedia packages which are in Debian and not in Ubuntu or vice versa? I would definitely want to package for debian, and then have packages synced to ubuntu automatically. I'm currently packaging pencil for ubuntu, and will probably try to repackage it for debian further down the road. My problem with debian packaging currently, is that I'm not at all familiar with the tools and so on. I simply don't feel at home. With Ubuntu I have two invaluable tools: prevu and the PPA. Prevu (which is a wrapper of sorts around pbuilder), because it's the first thing I came over, and it's so simple to use that I haven't bothered learning pbuilder. Also, launchpad is neat, I can't get used to the email based BTS of debian's. However, I have my mind set on learning and getting used to the debian way of things. As soon as I find the time. You're right if you say that building your first package for Debian will cost you more time and effort. But when you build the packages 'The Debian way' you got quality packages for sure! It also improves you Debian skills and so also your Ubuntu skills! Packaging with the easy tools and for PPA has some disadvantages. For example with PPA, the packages are not well tested on the different Ubuntu editions... I think to start with email could be neat, but after you're used to it, you don't want different I think ;) Btw I discovered you got some nice help from the Debian Multimedia Team and also from Debian mentors with building your (first) packages!! http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/welcome http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-ment...@lists.debian.org/info.html Good luck! \r ps. nice pbuilder howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto O and make sure you read this one: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ This seems to be a bit difficult compared to the Ubuntu documentation. But if you take your time and take out the main parts, you can start to build your package and ask the Debian Multimedia Team (there is a newbie discussion right now there) or the Debian mentors mailinglist for assistance. I think there are also a lot of people who uses Ubuntu too. \r -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trailing revs...
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:02 PM, sue...@empire.net sue...@empire.net wrote: I realize there is an effort to backport several apps (Ardour, Jack, ffado, etc.) and am actually using khashayar's PPA of these apps for Hardy with great success. Also am aware of the ongoing rt issue with 8.10. My question is when are (or have I missed) announcement of formal availability of the back ports going to happen. The backporting is actually happening. There are, however, a couple of separate issues that might make things look pretty slow. First of all, we've had some issues with the scons version that's in hardy and intrepid. For some reason, packages in the archives (and in the PPAs) simply time out instead of building. Quite a few of our audio applications use scons for building. After ardour, for example, was pushed to the backports archive, we realized it was stuck in the system, failing to build. I've worked around this problem in my PPA by simply backporting scons, along with fakeroot and a bunch of -dev packages. This is of course not ideal, and nothing that Studio would (or could) do. Instead, we (actually Luke, I belive), has tried to patch up the source with some black magic. I'm not sure how well that has worked out so far. The more interesting issue, though, is the fact that we all want jack, and other libs backported. But that's much harder to get through. The thing is, many packages are linked to the libraries, some of them not even central to Studio. If we wanted jack backported, for example, we would need to test every package that links to it for regressions. Considering the fact that Ubuntu actually releases quite often (every 6 months), it might be a lot simpler to just wait for the next release. A quote from jackaudio.org dated December 5th, 2008: the release of JACK 0.116.0. This is an important release, because it fixes all the problems reported with 0.115.6 and now makes 0.109.2 completely obsolete. Nobody should be using 0.109.2 within a few weeks, and even that is only to allow for distributions to update. Since I'm working fine with the ppa packages, this just really a curiousity question... I guess I answered this question above. There are simply too many packages to test for regressions. Perhaps we could have filed an SRU request for jack particularly (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates), but then again, like I mentioned, Ubuntu does release quite often. Speaking of khashayar...haven't seen or heard of him for a few weeks. Yeah, sorry I haven't replied for such a long time. I've had a lot of things going on in my non-linux related life. Hopefully things have settled for a while now. Hopefully. Regards, Khashayar. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Join the Debian Multimedia Team!
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Packaging with the easy tools and for PPA has some disadvantages. For example with PPA, the packages are not well tested on the different Ubuntu editions... Point of interest, *anything* built in PPA or from the archive will work with any of the *buntus that care to keep compatibility. Just like Debian. Packages are tested as well as the community cares to. Same as Debian. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[Fwd: Re: Debian Multimedia Team and Ubuntu]
Hi, Of course you guys wants to know if building for the Debian Multimedia Team really helps Ubuntu too. So I asked some questions on the Debian Multimedia Teams list. I think the conclusion is, yes if you build packages for the Debian Multimedia Team is will hit Ubuntu and it is very easy to install or rebuild the Debian package for Ubuntu! :) So the best thing you could do is joining the Debian Multimedia Teams mailinglist for communication and working together! See below ---BeginMessage--- Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com writes: I think building packages for Debian could also improve Debian derivatives, like Ubuntu, for multimedia production. And Ubuntu users could contribute to the Debian multimedia team by maintaining packages. It would be nice if Debian and Ubuntu users could have some kind of working together to improve Debian and Ubuntu for multimedia production. Yes, Good idea! That's what I've intended when I've created the MOTUMedia team. Unfortunately, the only active people were slomo, crimsun and myself. :-( Ubuntu users could contribute to the Debian Multimedia Team to maintain packages, but they also want to be sure that their packages they make for Debian will hit Ubuntu of course. We already have too many packages for too little manpower. So any help is more than welcome! So I was wondering: 1) how can I maintain a multimedia package for Debian and be sure that it hits Ubuntu (Studio) too? I'd say get that package imported in a git branch on git.debian.org. Distributed development is ideal for this usecase. 2) how can I make a Ubuntu package from an Debian package? 3) how can I make an Debian package from an Ubuntu package? Ubuntu and Debian packages share the same format. Ideally there are no differences between the debian and the ubuntu package. For packages that need to have some difference, I'd suggest to maintain the ubuntu package in a git branch. That way merging back and forth remains easy. 4) how could we improve this 'working together'? Subscribe to this mailing list, send patches to existing packages, get the packages accepted, make sure that packages from debian are kept up-to-date in ubuntu. I already do that for the ubuntu ffmpeg and mplayer packages, and I start to feel a bit lonley :-) -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ---End Message--- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[Fwd: Re: Debian Multimedia Team and Ubuntu]
---BeginMessage--- hi, Grammostola Rosea schrieb: 1) how can I maintain a multimedia package for Debian and be sure that it hits Ubuntu (Studio) too? A rule of thumb says, if the software is in Debian, it will land in Ubuntu Universe sooner or later. 2) how can I make a Ubuntu package from an Debian package? 3) how can I make an Debian package from an Ubuntu package? In most cases it is sufficient to rebuild the package sources on the corresponding system. Normally (i.e. if Ubuntu does not decide to become imcompatible to Debian by e.g. upgrading libc6 on their own) a single package shoulb be installable on either sydstem even without a rebuilt. 4) how could we improve this 'working together'? Join the groups, maintain packages, communicate. ;) Cheers, Fabian -- Dipl.-Phys. Fabian Greffrath Ruhr-Universität Bochum Lehrstuhl für Energieanlagen und Energieprozesstechnik (LEAT) Universitätsstr. 150, IB 3/134 D-44780 Bochum Telefon: +49 (0)234 / 32-26334 Fax: +49 (0)234 / 32-14227 E-Mail: greffr...@leat.ruhr-uni-bochum.de ---End Message--- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Audio sound effects
Greetings All: I'm a Studio noob. I loaded it a few days ago and haven't gotten much further than the eye candy which, it must be said, is beautiful. I would like to: Record voice audio files (mp3?) Add short sound fx clips Apply some sound fx such as reverb, echo, voice alteration - you know, all of that kidnapper voice masking over the telephone stuff. So, how do I approach this? My ultimate goal is to podcast a series of interviews. If some kind soul could at least identify the tools I would need, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. _ Windows Live™: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009-- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Audio sound effects
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Seattle Chaz seattlec...@hotmail.com wrote: Greetings All: I'm a Studio noob. I loaded it a few days ago and haven't gotten much further than the eye candy which, it must be said, is beautiful. I would like to: Record voice audio files (mp3?) Add short sound fx clips Apply some sound fx such as reverb, echo, voice alteration - you know, all of that kidnapper voice masking over the telephone stuff. So, how do I approach this? My ultimate goal is to podcast a series of interviews. If some kind soul could at least identify the tools I would need, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. Have you tried audacity? It seems ideal for your use case. Regards, K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Audio sound effects
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Seattle Chaz seattlec...@hotmail.com wrote: Greetings All: I'm a Studio noob. almost all of us are. Record voice audio files (mp3?) Stay away of loss-compress formats, you will lost quality that can't recover, ever. and the best multitrack recorder (Ardour) is not compatible with loss audio formats. Apply some sound fx such as reverb, echo, voice alteration - you know, all take a look at this: http://ardour.org/files/manual/index2.html Best! Leo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Audio sound effects
Record voice audio files (mp3?) Stay away of loss-compress formats, you will lost quality that can't recover, ever. and the best multitrack recorder (Ardour) is not compatible with loss audio formats. Depending on the final application. Using a lossless recording format to record your voice, foley (sounds effects you generate yourself) and/or music is the way to maintain the best quality. Afterwards, you may want to compress the sound file down to MP3 or OGG, for example if it is going to be downloaded over a slow internet connection. For my money of already to go sound effect, easy to use.. Audacity in Ubuntu Studio out of the box is great. Record a voice file and then go through the HUNDREDS of effects/plugins it can apply to it. Ardour, is good for multi-track recording of multiple sound sources, then mixing, and mastering. Maybe a little overkill for your needs. I don't know... It does so much I have still only scratched the surface! Play with both... great way to learn! j...@! Apply some sound fx such as reverb, echo, voice alteration - you know, all take a look at this: http://ardour.org/files/manual/index2.html Best! Leo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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[உபுண்டு பயனர்] 09-03-2009 - ஜஆர்சி உப ுண்டு பயனர் கூட ்டத்தின் சுருக ்கம்
அனைவருக்கும் வணக்கம், *கடந்த ஞாயிறு 09-03-2009 மாலை - உபுண்டு ஜஆர்சி பயனர் கூட்டத்தின் சுருக்க உரை:* *கலந்து கொண்டவர்கள்:* பத்மநாதன், தங்கமணி அருண், குமரன் (ஜெயா பொறியல் கல்லூரி) கூட்டம் சுமார் மாலை 4 மணியளவில் தொடங்கியது, பத்மநாதன் தனது உரையை ஆரம்பித்தார், மதுரை தியாகராஜா கல்லூரில் நடைப்பெற்ற கட்டற்ற மென்பொருள் மநாட்டில் தனது அனுபவங்களையும், உபுண்டுவின் பங்களிப்ப பற்றியும் பகிர்ந்துகொண்டார். இதில் மதுரை டிவிஎஸ் பள்ளி குழந்தைகள் சிறப்பாக உபுண்டுவில் டெமா காட்டி அனைவரின் கவனத்தையும் ஈர்த்தனர் என்பதை சொன்னவுடன் ஆச்சரியமாக இருந்தது...இதில் தியாகராஜா கல்லூரி மாணவர்கள் நல்ல பங்களிப்பை அளித்துள்ளனர் என்பது தெறியவந்தது. அனைவருக்கும் தமிழ் குழுமத்தின் சார்பாக மனமரார்ந்த பாராட்டுக்கள் !!! ஆனாலும் இன்னமும் *தென் மாவட்டங்களில் கட்டற்ற மென்பொருள் பற்றிய விழிப்புணர்வு குறைவாக இருப்பதாக* தெரிகிறது. இது எப்படி கழையப்படும் ??? ஜெயா கல்லூரி குமரனும் தனது அனுபவத்தையும், தன் கல்லூரியின் பங்களிப்பு பற்றியும் விளக்கினார். பின் குமரன் தானாக முன்வந்து பயன்பாடுகள் எதாவது செய்து தரவா என கேட்டார், அதற்கு பத்மநாதன் தனது மின்சார துறைக்கு ஏகப்பட்ட பயன்பாடுகள் இணையத்தை மையமாக வைத்து எழுதப்பட வேண்டும் என்பதை முன்வைத்தார், இதற்கு குமரன் ஒப்புக்கொண்டுள்ளார். நிகழ்ச்சி சுமார் 2 மணி நேரம் நீடித்து 6 மணியளவில் முடிவடைந்தது. நிகழ்ச்சி முடிந்தபின் திரு. பாலாஜி என்பவர் என்னை அழைத்து நிகழ்ச்சியில் கலந்துக்கொள்ள முடியவில்லை என வருத்தப்பட்டார். -- அன்புடன் அருண் -- http://ubuntu-tam.org http://lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-l10n-tam http://lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-tam -- -- Ubuntu-tam mailing list Ubuntu-tam@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tam
Re: [ubuntu-ec] [equinux] [Asociacion] Primera Reunión de la Comunidad Blender Ecuador
Fecha: 2009-III-21Sábado Hora: 15h00 Lugar: Av. de La Prensa N58-219 y Vaca de Castro Teléfono: (02) 259-5632 Ah, ya. Osea en la oficina de Ramiro Castrillo, SASLIBRE. Tu mensaje quedaria que la comunidad de blender se va a reunir en una oficina comercial de Ramiro Castillo. En nuestras listas, uno de nuestros preceptos es no mezclar lo comercial con lo comunitario. Pues en algún lado se tendrán que reunir y en ningún lado dice Saslibre por ahí. Si no fuera por tu comentario ni siquiera sabríamos que es en Saslibre. Por otro lado, me gustaría felicitar a la iniciativa por parte Juan Carlos Reascos que ha estado luchando y aprendiendo Blender desde ahce algunos años. slaudos, Rafael -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
Re: [ubuntu-ec] [equinux] [Asociacion] Primer a Reunión de la Comunidad Blender Ecuador
El Sunday 08 March 2009 22:28:35 Quiliro Ordóñez escribió: Nadie más ofreció su oficina ni le interesó hacer una reunión de Blender. Si alguien está interesado en hacer la segunda reunión en otro lado es bienvenido. Envia la informacion con tiempo, y la comunidad con alguno de sus integrantes, gustosamente te abrira el calor de hermandad comunitariar que necesiten. Saludos. Pedro Franco -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
[ubuntu-ec] Portal
Holas, Con el Ubuntu Drupal Kit he instalado nuestro nuevo portal. Por favor creen cuentas y ponganle contenido lo más pronto posible poara desfazar el antiguo. El url: http://ubuntu.ec/2009 Saludos, Rubén R. https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
Re: [ubuntu-ec] Portal
Por q no hiciste una instalacion directa en ubuntu.ec en vez de ubuntu.ec/2009? Sent from my Mobile Email Fernando M. Blog: www.ecubuntu.com Web: www.compbuntu.com Gtalk: ecubuntu On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Rubén Romero y Cordero hua...@ubuntu.com wrote: Holas, Con el Ubuntu Drupal Kit he instalado nuestro nuevo portal. Por favor creen cuentas y ponganle contenido lo más pronto posible poara desfazar el antiguo. El url: http://ubuntu.ec/2009 Saludos, Rubén R. https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
[Ubuntu-BR] Sistema de Contabilidade
Bom dia a todos, alguem tem alguma dica de programa de contabilidade para ubuntu? pode ser básico mesmo, só que possibilite os relatório padrão, (balanço, balancete, diario/razão)... achei o Fiel Contábil, mas não gostei muito, não acho muito prático de operar... forte abraço, E PARABÉNS PELO DIA DE ONTEM À TODAS AS MULHERES DESTA LISTA :-) -- ___ Jean Pierre Jochen === Fone: +55 47 9996.7005 Linux User # 480201 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter EXT3 para FAT32 sem formatar! É possível?
Pegou pesado Geraldo. att., Renato Krause renatokra...@gmail.com Se você dá o peixe, alimenta o homem por um dia, se você ensina a pescar, alimenta pela vida inteira. 2009/3/8 José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com: Em Dom, 2009-03-08 às 07:01 -0700, Luiz Henrique Marques Fagundes escreveu: Prezados amigos, Primeiramente saudações pinguianas a todos! Eu gostaria de saber se existe alguma maneira de converter uma partição Ext3 para Fat32 sem formatar! Preciso fazer essa conversão, tenho muitos arquivos no HD e não tenho espaçõ para fazer backup. Sim, foi inventado pelo mesmo cara que criou o método que transforma um motor de Opala em um V-6 de Formula 1 sem ter que fundir as peças e forjar de novo. - Show quoted text - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
