Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes Guidelines Wiki Page
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 21:31 -0400, John Baer wrote: Realizing there are some emails on this topic I haven't read, my desire is to get this out for review, comments, and improvements. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/CommunityThemesGuidelines Please consider this a first draft or a starting point and feel free to login to the wiki and modify as needed. Good job! I tweaked it a bit. I'm worried about duplication in the wiki. In this case I replaced your points regarding logo and text use with a link to the WallpaperRules in Documentation. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
Hi! Have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ and then: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Do you agree that the Fedora people are like 10 miles ahead in style and structure there? First, the 2 level of links are confusing. Having always available top level links could be good. but that isn't what happens currently. The link block with /Archives /BreatheIconSet ... is ugly. Can our wiki software do better? The NEXT ARTWORK MEETING block is rather embarrassing. I would like to remove it and the linked page, if I may. Roadmap sounds like there would be something specific. As long as there's just the global release schedule, I think a link on the current Incoming page would suffice. At the very least Roadmap should be renamed to Release Schedule. I would like to merge the Getting Involved and perhaps also the FAQ with the main page. Then I would like to keep only a link to current Incoming, Archives, BreatheIconSet, Official Artwork, Guidelines ... ReportingPage seems to be very much obsolete WarningTheme and Powder can be moved to Specs (which should be written out as Specifications)? GutsyIconsReview can be moved to Incoming/Gutsy or to Specs?? In the later case, the Gutsy should be dropped. Or both GutsyIconsReview and NewHumanTesting could go to a new section called Feedback. I would collect stuff from Documentation, CommunityThemesGuidelines and KyudoGuidelines below Guidelines. I'm _considering_ to use the Kyūdō motive as opener there, but to otherwise dissolve the brand. In all of that, I wouldn't worry about breaking links in the mailing list archive or blog posts, because I think clearness and a good base to build on is more valuable than archive material few will ever look at. After such restructuring, one might go through the Fedora wiki to copy good bits we lack. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Simple logo for Karmic.
Yeah, I know Jaunty is not even out the door yet. But I have been doing research on koalas. (Well I call it research, it is in retrospect, looking at baby koalas, and awwing away the afternoon.) Attached is a simple idealized logo that I have made. I believe someone called Ajcham suggested having a simple idealized animal logo for jaunty, and I rather liked that idea. I think we should try that for karmic. Suggestions/ Comments all appreciated. --Saleel inline: koalafill.svg-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
On Thursday 02 April 2009 14:11:35 Thorsten Wilms wrote: Hi! Have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ and then: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Do you agree that the Fedora people are like 10 miles ahead in style and structure there? Yes, we should definitely work on improving our wiki. First, the 2 level of links are confusing. Having always available top level links could be good. but that isn't what happens currently. The link block with /Archives /BreatheIconSet ... is ugly. Can our wiki software do better? Right. Not sure how to avoid this though...someone with more wiki knowledge than I could answer it. The NEXT ARTWORK MEETING block is rather embarrassing. I would like to remove it and the linked page, if I may. I'd like to have monthly meetings and make that box useful :-) Roadmap sounds like there would be something specific. As long as there's just the global release schedule, I think a link on the current Incoming page would suffice. At the very least Roadmap should be renamed to Release Schedule. I would like to merge the Getting Involved and perhaps also the FAQ with the main page. Then I would like to keep only a link to current Incoming, Archives, BreatheIconSet, Official Artwork, Guidelines ... ReportingPage seems to be very much obsolete This kinda ties in with the meetings box from above, and was required of every team (still is afaik). WarningTheme and Powder can be moved to Specs (which should be written out as Specifications)? GutsyIconsReview can be moved to Incoming/Gutsy or to Specs?? In the later case, the Gutsy should be dropped. Or both GutsyIconsReview and NewHumanTesting could go to a new section called Feedback. I would collect stuff from Documentation, CommunityThemesGuidelines and KyudoGuidelines below Guidelines. I'm _considering_ to use the Kyūdō motive as opener there, but to otherwise dissolve the brand. Yes, on all of the above. Things have slowly progressed to their current state and could certainly use lots of love. In all of that, I wouldn't worry about breaking links in the mailing list archive or blog posts, because I think clearness and a good base to build on is more valuable than archive material few will ever look at. After such restructuring, one might go through the Fedora wiki to copy good bits we lack. Right, they do have an interesting way of showing the pieces...it seems like it help new community members get involved. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] BZR upload April 2nd 2009
These revisions apply to both trunk (rev.59) and the packaging branch (rev.28). * ADDED: all of the new flash media. symlink to link scanner.* to xsane.* * MISC: shuffled around power icons. (mostly symlink work) * UPDATED: build files There's still a couple of general submissions that need cleaned up on the wiki. If they aren't attended to in the next week, I will remove them. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
2009/4/2 Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com: First, the 2 level of links are confusing. Having always available top level links could be good. but that isn't what happens currently. The link block with /Archives /BreatheIconSet ... is ugly. Can our wiki software do better? Right. Not sure how to avoid this though...someone with more wiki knowledge than I could answer it. Moin is a very flexible system. To be frank, our theme is ancient, we can reap tremendous improvements by updating that. Also, we have the ability to create macros for common tasks such as generating some HTML. For example (I'm not suggesting this would be useful here) a macro can be created that embeds a youtube video into a page. Interestingly (or maybe unfortunately) enough, the person to talk to on the matter is me. There is a project to re-design the Ubuntu.com website which will start later this year. Therefore I'm hesitant to make sweeping changes at this point. But I can add some styles to the default stylesheets and work on some macros that teams could use for their project pages. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes Guidelines Wiki Page
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 21:31 -0400, John Baer wrote: Realizing there are some emails on this topic I haven't read, my desire is to get this out for review, comments, and improvements. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/CommunityThemesGuidelines Please consider this a first draft or a starting point and feel free to login to the wiki and modify as needed. Good job! I tweaked it a bit. I'm worried about duplication in the wiki. In this case I replaced your points regarding logo and text use with a link to the WallpaperRules in Documentation. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress +1 I added a little more content. Thanks John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
Matthew Nuzum wrote: Interestingly (or maybe unfortunately) enough, the person to talk to on the matter is me. So is it also you I gotta stalk to get SVG display support added to the wiki or some lonely Canonical sysadmin? ;) Current info says Moin can do it but not our version. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Karmic sections, was: Simple logo for Karmic
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 08:52 -0400, Saleel wrote: Yeah, I know Jaunty is not even out the door yet. But I have been doing research on koalas. (Well I call it research, it is in retrospect, looking at baby koalas, and awwing away the afternoon.) Attached is a simple idealized logo that I have made. I believe someone called Ajcham suggested having a simple idealized animal logo for jaunty, and I rather liked that idea. I think we should try that for karmic. Well done. The nose could be a bit broader, perhaps? I wonder what it is hugging or hanging on, though ;) Add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic Maybe we should instate sections there before it starts to fill up. * Themes * Backgrounds (no sub-pages, just thumbnails) * Material (for graphics like this one) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:50 -0500, Matthew Nuzum wrote: But I can add some styles to the default stylesheets and work on some macros that teams could use for their project pages. The = Level 1 Headings = could do with like 1 em more padding/margin-top ;) Getting rid pf the leading / on the page lists would be nice already. Automatic thumbnail generation for wallpapers and such would rock :) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] InBzr wiki page
Hi! Does this serve a purpose / how could it be up-to-date? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Guidelines/InBzr Is there a way to get such an overview (or better) in Launchpad? Can I delete that page? -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Creating icons for the future, FreeDesktop, Human and Breathe.
In creating the Breathe icon set I'm becoming pretty familiar with how various sets and standards work. Along with what I don't like. For instance. I like how the GNOME set provides naming for specific optical media. DVDs, +/_Rs and the like. It allows me to add specific touches for the different disks. As an artist/designer/user, I like that. :) But, even though icon-naming-utils takes care of these with symlinks I feel these should be FreeDesktop standards. Where: gnome-dev-disc-cdr would be: media-optical-cdr in FreeDesktop. Now, pushing for that change upstream aside, do you guys think creating media-optical-cdr (with symlinks) now instead of gnome-dev-disc-cdr would be best, or just stick with specific icons for gnome-dev-disc-cdr and change later? I'm hoping Andreas can chime in here. (I'll also contact dobey as well) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Matthew Nuzum wrote: Interestingly (or maybe unfortunately) enough, the person to talk to on the matter is me. So is it also you I gotta stalk to get SVG display support added to the wiki or some lonely Canonical sysadmin? ;) Current info says Moin can do it but not our version. Can you give me more details on this? I've not heard of this and the SystemInfo page doesn't mention SVG support at all. Because of the connection between wiki.u.c and launchpad it will always have a more-paranoid-than-usual configuration. That means some features can that can be used to inject active content (JS, flash, object, etc...) cannot be enabled. Why don't you add your suggestions here, but feel free to discuss them on this list. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/MinorWikiTweaks -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 14:58 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: Yes, we should definitely work on improving our wiki. I'd like to have monthly meetings and make that box useful :-) Well, commented out in the /Head for now ;) Roadmap is now Release Schedule and point to the generic page that forwards to always the current. FAQ gone. Documentation, Kyudo and CommunityThemesGuidlines now all under Guidlines, to be massaged into shape. ReportingPage and PageTemplate are now hidden, as I switched to an explicit link list with short explanations, instead of the previous /bla /blu. WarningTheme and Powder moved to Specificatios, formerly Specs. Old, obsolete specs deleted. GutsyIconsReview and NewHumanTesting moved to Incoming pages. Suggestions for further improvement welcome ;) BTW, the Archive section would benefit from a little dedicated attention! -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Community Themes - Jaunty
Andrew, What is the status of the community-themes package for Jaunty? If the package is ready I would like to see this pushed to Beta in order to test deployment prior to RC. https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/community-themes/community-themes If there are issues I stand ready to assist in any way that I can. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] My Return (Thorsten Wilms)
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 02:31 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: ... I wanted to wait until tomorrow, but now due to so many heart-warming words, I decided to return immediately! Oh wait, it's the first of April, so I couldn't have been serious in the first place! Damn me. Thanks guys, and congratulations to tacone for being the first to notice and state the day ;) (Really thought there had been clues enough. Poor Kenneth) -- Thorsten Wilms Sad to see you go, glad you're back! (lol) John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Retreat from Ubuntu Artwork
Oh snap! you totally got me hahahaha On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Smartboy smartboyath...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: Hi! With the possible exception of some work for The Fridge, I will pull out of all ubuntu-related artwork! I'm worried about the move of dumping brown for Karmic and have been less and less satisfied with the distribution. I'm preparing to join the Fedora artwork community instead, now that it seems save to say they will not make another mistake like the artwork for 7, which was too imaginative and hence distracting from the cold, hard work we all should be doing. (see http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/) Sadly they have an elitist approach and don't just let everyone in before submitting artwork meeting some quality level, but I'm confident I can make it and look past this silly step. Too bad I didn't finish my wallpaper collection, but I think I can turn them all blue for Fedora! I will miss the short and to-the-point, heart-felt comments we sometimes got to enjoy here, but I have to move on. Farewell! -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Wait a minute, this couldn't be your APRIL FOOL, could it? :o -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Simple logo for Karmic.
I like it! It looks like he's surprised though.. All koalas I've ever seen are kinda sleepy looking - which might fit with the karmic idea..? -Chris 2009/4/2 Saleel svela...@gmail.com Yeah, I know Jaunty is not even out the door yet. But I have been doing research on koalas. (Well I call it research, it is in retrospect, looking at baby koalas, and awwing away the afternoon.) Attached is a simple idealized logo that I have made. I believe someone called Ajcham suggested having a simple idealized animal logo for jaunty, and I rather liked that idea. I think we should try that for karmic. Suggestions/ Comments all appreciated. --Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] user-desktop
I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for user-desktop. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] user-desktop
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:44 PM, spg76 sebastianpo...@gmail.com wrote: I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for user-desktop. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art I think you should make the panels thinner. As it is they look way too thick. Smartboy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] user-desktop
Smartboy wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:44 PM, spg76 sebastianpo...@gmail.com wrote: I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for user-desktop. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions I added the icon to BZR but it was a PITA. It had a plate in there called 256x256 and kept trying to render out 10 times. Please drop your images (minus the plate layers) in a newly pulled template. I did this and things rendered fine but I get a blank source SVG image. Very odd. I think you should make the panels thinner. As it is they look way too thick. No. I think you're just considering what it looks like here and not in actual use. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes - Jaunty
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:09 PM, John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, What is the status of the community-themes package for Jaunty? If the package is ready I would like to see this pushed to Beta in order to test deployment prior to RC. https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/community-themes/community-themes If there are issues I stand ready to assist in any way that I can. John In my branch, Iadded Impression and removed Dust and New Wave so that it no longer conflicts with gnome-themes-ubuntu. I have submitted a merge proposal to the main branch. It is still waiting for review: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/community-themes/community-themes/+merge/5080 This is simply my work, but it seems to follow the general consensus of this list. Hopefully Ken can get this approved for upload. If you are interested in testing, attached is a deb for the proposed package. - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio community-themes_0.14_all.deb Description: application/debian-package -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki (Thorsten Wilms)
Thorsten, Wow, as it turns out I have some experience with MoinMoin. I created and maintain a sandbox MoinMoin wiki titled proWiki located here. http://www.projwiki.com/index.cgi/ImpressionGtkTheme The Fedora community was having trouble maintaining their wiki back when it was MoinMoin 1.5.8 and decided to switch to MediaWiki. However, much of the design work of their current wiki was done with MoinMoin. IMO there is a lot of potential in MoinMoin. I don't know the best approach, but the Fedora community used mockups to brain storm their ideas. Perhaps starting with a new Artwork page. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] user-desktop
2009/4/2 Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com I added the icon to BZR but it was a PITA. It had a plate in there called 256x256 and kept trying to render out 10 times. Please drop your images (minus the plate layers) in a newly pulled template. I did this and things rendered fine but I get a blank source SVG image. Very odd. I think the problem was that I used the 16px user-trash icon and, evidently, I didn't remove all the rest when I imported the file. Sorry for the extra work. I think you should make the panels thinner. As it is they look way too thick. No. I think you're just considering what it looks like here and not in actual use. Yeah, I did the panel that thick because otherwise I can't put much detail in the smaller sizes. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] user-desktop
spg76 wrote: I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for user-desktop. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions So aside from my previous technical note, I'm wondering if we want to go with this literal screenshot kinda image or the desktop mat we see in other sets? Personally, I'm curious to see what can be done with the mat idea. :) -Cory K. PS: Extra work ain't too bad. I just said something so it doesn't happen again. ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes - Jaunty (Andrew)
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 01:23 +0100, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:09 PM, John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, What is the status of the community-themes package for Jaunty? If the package is ready I would like to see this pushed to Beta in order to test deployment prior to RC. https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/community-themes/community-themes If there are issues I stand ready to assist in any way that I can. John In my branch, Iadded Impression and removed Dust and New Wave so that it no longer conflicts with gnome-themes-ubuntu. I have submitted a merge proposal to the main branch. It is still waiting for review: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/community-themes/community-themes/+merge/5080 This is simply my work, but it seems to follow the general consensus of this list. Hopefully Ken can get this approved for upload. If you are interested in testing, attached is a deb for the proposed package. - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio Thanks Andrew, I'll test tomorrow. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Tricky Wiki
Hi! Have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ and then: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Do you agree that the Fedora people are like 10 miles ahead in style and structure there? First, the 2 level of links are confusing. Having always available top level links could be good. but that isn't what happens currently. The link block with /Archives /BreatheIconSet ... is ugly. Can our wiki software do better? The NEXT ARTWORK MEETING block is rather embarrassing. I would like to remove it and the linked page, if I may. Roadmap sounds like there would be something specific. As long as there's just the global release schedule, I think a link on the current Incoming page would suffice. At the very least Roadmap should be renamed to Release Schedule. I would like to merge the Getting Involved and perhaps also the FAQ with the main page. Then I would like to keep only a link to current Incoming, Archives, BreatheIconSet, Official Artwork, Guidelines ... ReportingPage seems to be very much obsolete WarningTheme and Powder can be moved to Specs (which should be written out as Specifications)? GutsyIconsReview can be moved to Incoming/Gutsy or to Specs?? In the later case, the Gutsy should be dropped. Or both GutsyIconsReview and NewHumanTesting could go to a new section called Feedback. I would collect stuff from Documentation, CommunityThemesGuidelines and KyudoGuidelines below Guidelines. I'm _considering_ to use the Kyūdō motive as opener there, but to otherwise dissolve the brand. In all of that, I wouldn't worry about breaking links in the mailing list archive or blog posts, because I think clearness and a good base to build on is more valuable than archive material few will ever look at. After such restructuring, one might go through the Fedora wiki to copy good bits we lack. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Call for testing of notify-osd under UNR
Hi We're pondering inclusion of notify-osd in UNR by default (replacing notification-daemon), but we lack data on how well the non-composited version of notify-osd behaves. Anybody running jaunty UNR is welcome to try to install notify-osd and see how well the bubbles behave / show up. We're particularly interested in testing the largest number of different bubbles on as many hardware configuration as possible. We're interested in your reports of success or failure mentionning particular apps on particular hardware on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353263 Thanks, -- Loïc Minier -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Call for testing of notify-osd under UNR
Loïc Minier wrote: We're pondering inclusion of notify-osd in UNR by default (replacing notification-daemon), but we lack data on how well the non-composited version of notify-osd behaves. Anybody running jaunty UNR is welcome to try to install notify-osd and see how well the bubbles behave / show up. We're particularly interested in testing the largest number of different bubbles on as many hardware configuration as possible. We have decided to include notify-osd in UNR by default, and it is in the daily image of 20090403. We are still looking for testing. Thanks, -- Steve Ubuntu Mobile Developer Canonical, Ltd -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
[ubuntu-tr] iki farklı soru: 64 bit ve shell 'e erişimi olmayan kullanıcı oluşturmak
Merhaba, 4GB bellekli sistemime Ubuntu 9.04 beta kurdum (32 bit). Ancak malum sebeplerden dolayı ön tanımlı kernel ile RAM'in tamamını kullanamadım. Ben de server kernel'ini da kurdum (2.6.28-9-server). Bu kernel'in default kernel'a göre ne gibi dezavantajları olur masaüstü kullanımda? Ya da olur mu? Örneğin init 0 yaptığımda sanki süreçleri ya da servisleri kapatmaya uğraşmaksızın direk kapatıyor gibi. Bu kanıya varmamın sebebi çok generic kernel'a göre çok hızlı kapanması. Bellek kullanım problemini aşmak için bu şekilde kullanım mı daha doğru olur? Yoksa direk 64 bit 'e mi geçeyim? 64 bit için ne gibi dezavantajlarım olabilir? Örneğin ekran kartı (nvidia 8600 gt) sürücüleri, flash , java runtime v.b. gibi sorunlar yaşar mıyım? İkinci olarak; vsftpd ftp sunucu kurdum. ftp kullanıcılara güvenlik sebebiyle shell erişimi vermek istemiyorum Bu nedenle ftp kullanıcılarını oluştururken; adduser --shell /usr/sbin/nologin --home /home/userftp1 userftp1 şeklinde oluşturuyorum. Ancak userftp1 ile ftp yapmak istediğimde Login incorrect, Login failed mesajları düşüyor ve ftp ile login olamıyorum. Halbuki aynı yönetmle Centos/RHEL ile sorun yaşamıyorum. Teşekkürler. -- ubuntu-tr mailing list ubuntu-tr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tr
Re: [ubuntu-tr] iki farklı soru: 64 bit ve shell'e erişimi olmayan kullanıcı oluşturmak
Merhaba, shell'e verdiğiniz komutu (/usr/sbin/nologin ya da /bin/false) /etc/shells dosyasına eklemeniz gerekiyor. yeni bir satır olarak ekleyebilirsiniz. FTP üzerinden iletişim sırasında kullanıcıların parolaları şifrelenmeden gidip geldiği için parolalı erişim için sftp kullanmanızı öneririm. Eğer sistemde sshd kurulu ve aktif ise kullanıcı açtığınız anda sftp hesabı da etkin hale gelecektir. login'i iptal ettiğinizde de sftp çalışmaya devam eder. Kolay gelsin. 2009/4/2 ahmed yasar yasar.tun...@gmail.com Merhaba, 4GB bellekli sistemime Ubuntu 9.04 beta kurdum (32 bit). Ancak malum sebeplerden dolayı ön tanımlı kernel ile RAM'in tamamını kullanamadım. Ben de server kernel'ini da kurdum (2.6.28-9-server). Bu kernel'in default kernel'a göre ne gibi dezavantajları olur masaüstü kullanımda? Ya da olur mu? Örneğin init 0 yaptığımda sanki süreçleri ya da servisleri kapatmaya uğraşmaksızın direk kapatıyor gibi. Bu kanıya varmamın sebebi çok generic kernel'a göre çok hızlı kapanması. Bellek kullanım problemini aşmak için bu şekilde kullanım mı daha doğru olur? Yoksa direk 64 bit 'e mi geçeyim? 64 bit için ne gibi dezavantajlarım olabilir? Örneğin ekran kartı (nvidia 8600 gt) sürücüleri, flash , java runtime v.b. gibi sorunlar yaşar mıyım? İkinci olarak; vsftpd ftp sunucu kurdum. ftp kullanıcılara güvenlik sebebiyle shell erişimi vermek istemiyorum Bu nedenle ftp kullanıcılarını oluştururken; adduser --shell /usr/sbin/nologin --home /home/userftp1 userftp1 şeklinde oluşturuyorum. Ancak userftp1 ile ftp yapmak istediğimde Login incorrect, Login failed mesajları düşüyor ve ftp ile login olamıyorum. Halbuki aynı yönetmle Centos/RHEL ile sorun yaşamıyorum. Teşekkürler. -- ubuntu-tr mailing list ubuntu-tr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tr -- ubuntu-tr mailing list ubuntu-tr@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tr
[ubuntu-in] Minimising the window
dear friends i started using ubuntu very recently and is now facing a problem.. its because of my mistake.. When i minimize a window, it normally resides in a panel which is on the bottom side of the screen.. i once unknowingly deleted this pane.. now when i minimize, i cannot see those windows again..How can i activate that panel.. please help me.. -- With regards B Mathew, -- === Microsoft is not the answer; Microsoft is the question. Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux === -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Minimising the window
2009/4/2 Bruce Mathew brucemat...@gmail.com: dear friends i started using ubuntu very recently and is now facing a problem.. its because of my mistake.. When i minimize a window, it normally resides in a panel which is on the bottom side of the screen.. i once unknowingly deleted this pane.. now when i minimize, i cannot see those windows again..How can i activate that panel.. please help me.. I hope the panel on the top is still there. Right-click on the panel at the top, and select New-panel. A new gnome-panel should appear. Drag the panel to whatever position you prefer (side or bottom). Right click on the new panel and select Add to Panel, an option window will appear, from that select Window List and click Add. This should do the job. Hope it helps. -- Sambit Bikas Pal MS 3rd Year Indian Institute Of Science Education Research Kolkata, HC 7, Sector-III Salt Lake, Kolkata-700106 Web: http://www.botcyb.org OpenPGP Key: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x8E57F8B897D372B3 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which is the best filesystem to use??
@Onkar: Nothing. But with the variety of filesystems available I think there may be others better suited for managing large files. @Manish: I currently use ext2 @Moz: Yes. I heard that about ext4 so I am staying away from it. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Minimising the window
Sambit Bikas Pal wrote: I hope the panel on the top is still there. Right-click on the panel at the top, and select New-panel. A new gnome-panel should appear. Drag the panel to whatever position you prefer (side or bottom). Right click on the new panel and select Add to Panel, an option window will appear, from that select Window List and click Add. This should do the job. Hope it helps. Additionally he can add Workspace switcher and Trash to make it look more like earlier. -- Manish Sinha Blog [ http://blog.manishsinha.net/ ] Tech Blog [ http://manishtech.wordpress.com/ ] Twitter [ http://twitter.com/ManishSinha ] -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which is the best filesystem to use??
On 4/2/09, Manish Sinha (मनीष सिन्हा) m...@manishsinha.net wrote: Come on Fabian, even if you upgrade to ext3 ,that would be much better than ext2. You can even give reiserfs a try. I prefer all stable filesystems perfectly suitable for the job. Like ext3, reiserfs, XFS etc. Waiting for ZFS. Hmmm OK. Just thought that there were better filesystems than ext3 out there. Will upgrade it now :) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which is the best filesystem to use??
Hmmm OK. Just thought that there were better filesystems than ext3 out there. Will upgrade it now :) My home machine is running continously for the last 3 years amidst unclean shutdowns due to power outages at least twice a week. Filesystem is reiserfs on Debian Etch. regards, Nishant -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Partitioning Drive for i Linux
Hi All, Good day !!! Can someone suggest a best partitioning method for installing linux. I dont want tools that are used for partioning, but what file systems to use and how much to be given for each drive,(I have a 240 GB hard disk). how much to give as SWAP / root etc., Regards Jag -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Partitioning Drive for i Linux
Jag, While there is no hard and fast rule for partitioning (apart from having a separate swap partition), in my opinion it's best to separate /home /boot and /. This allows for easy movement between upgrades. Sample layout Boot: Ext2 : 500 MB (this should be MORE than enough, unless you intend to install many kernels. ext2 filesystem since journaling isn't required) Swap: Thumb rule is twice of RAM. I've gotten away with less (I have about 2 GB of RAM). / : 40 GB /home (ext3): the rest of the space or alternatively /home :20 GB Rest can be split into categories like /music /movies based on the size of your music and movie collections Regards, Ritesh On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, consoleart console...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Good day !!! Can someone suggest a best partitioning method for installing linux. I dont want tools that are used for partioning, but what file systems to use and how much to be given for each drive,(I have a 240 GB hard disk). how much to give as SWAP / root etc., Regards Jag -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which is the best filesystem to use??
2009/4/1 Moz list...@gmail.com: Tricky question. People would swear by a file system as ideal. I have read that ext4 has zero tolerance for powerouts and much greater chance of it being corrupted in such circumstances, so it is out of question for people like me. I have been using ext4 on arch linux since a few days now. I have had a couple of unclean shutdowns but no corruptions till now. In fact I had two distros getting corrupt due to unclean shutdown on the same drive but smart gives a clean chit the disk. Still, how does ext4 fares will be too early to judge on my install. -- It is not enough to have a good mind. The main thing is to use it well. -- Rene Descartes -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which is the best filesystem to use??
निशांत / Nishant wrote: Hmmm OK. Just thought that there were better filesystems than ext3 out there. Will upgrade it now :) My home machine is running continously for the last 3 years amidst unclean shutdowns due to power outages at least twice a week. Filesystem is reiserfs on Debian Etch. Nishant, Just wanted to ask whether there is any data loss due to unclean shutdowns? Even partial corruption? -- Manish Sinha Blog [ http://blog.manishsinha.net/ ] Tech Blog [ http://manishtech.wordpress.com/ ] Twitter [ http://twitter.com/ManishSinha ] -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which is the best filesystem to use??
Nishant, Just wanted to ask whether there is any data loss due to unclean shutdowns? Even partial corruption? None till date, but that is no guarantee that it can't happen in future. If you are in a situation that you need to rebuild tree, its the most scariest. Best thing is fastest recovery from unclean shutdowns, journal replays are really fast on reiserfs. You can experience the speed from the moment you issue mkreiserfs on an 100GB partition, its over within a few seconds. regards, Nishant -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which is the best filesystem to use??
निशांत / Nishant wrote: None till date, but that is no guarantee that it can't happen in future. If you are in a situation that you need to rebuild tree, its the most scariest. Yeah! Heard about it. Am safe since I run Ubuntu on laptop which has a power-backup from battery. Still X-crash and many other unusual freezes do make me do a hard-reboot(sometimes). Best thing is fastest recovery from unclean shutdowns, journal replays are really fast on reiserfs. You can experience the speed from the moment you issue mkreiserfs on an 100GB partition, its over within a few seconds. Another awesome thing is the speed of file operations. I took me 2 secs just to delete a 700MB file. I had a valve folder which contains CS, which it deleted instantly. I was thinking that this operation would take ages like in XP/Vista... :) -- Manish Sinha Blog [ http://blog.manishsinha.net/ ] Tech Blog [ http://manishtech.wordpress.com/ ] Twitter [ http://twitter.com/ManishSinha ] -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] persistent compiz?
Did you check the System--Preferences--Sessions?... In Startup Programs Tab there, I have a entry named Emerald (command field: emerald --replace). May be that should work On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Moz list...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am using Ubuntu Hardy on a Toshiba A135 laptop. I have installed Compiz on it and am using Emerald window decorator, Compiz is the window manager. However, I am unable to set it to start by default and therefore I have to manually start it every time there is a reboot. How do I make this my default and persistent setting? Sincerely, Moz -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Nitesh http://techformyself.blogspot.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] persistent compiz?
Hi Nitesh Nitesh Mistry wrote: Did you check the System--Preferences--Sessions?... In Startup Programs Tab there, I have a entry named Emerald (command field: emerald --replace). May be that should work There was no compiz or emerald as described above, so I have added compiz. Lets see whether that works. Thanks. Moz -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] importing aspell-hi dictionary into another computer
Hello All, I have spent months working on both my aspell-hi personalized dictionary as well as the aspell-hi system-wide dictionary, and now have a fairly extensive dictionary whose vocabulary is specialized for the writing which I do. I am now helping a colleague to set up the same aspell Hindi spell-checker in his computer, and need to install these Hindi dictionaries of mine for use with aspell in his computer. But it seems that the aspell structure has changed a bit since I got mine set up. It used to be that the system-wide Hindi dictionary was a file called hi.cwl. One could edit it by decompressing the file, opening it in gedit, then saving the changes and recompressing the file into the hi.cwl format. But now I find that when one installs aspell-hi in a computer today, it is kept in a different format -- hi.cwl.gz. This it seems is basically another compression format. So it would seem logical enough that if I want to put my hi.cwl into his computer, then I can just compress it into the hi.cwl.gz format and install it in his computer. Should this work? I ask, because I have tried this in one person's computer, and the hindi spellchecker stopped working. So I am a bit scared to try it again. Another related question: I notice that after installing aspell-hi in my colleague's computer, there are no .aspell.hi.prepl and .aspell.hi.pws files in his home folder. These used to be the names of the personalized dictionaries. Is it now done in a different way? Because I would like to install my .aspell.hi.prepl and .aspell.hi.pws files in his computer as well. Thanks! Regards, Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[Ubuntu-QC] Help - Tableur OpenOffice
Salut Je ne suis pas capable d'ouvrir ce script Excel 2000 Il serait très utile, dans un contexte de crise économique, de pouvoir faire fonctionner ce script gratuit dans le tableur gratuit et ainsi offrir une expertise nouvelle gratuite mais surtout environnementale Merci gaetandanieldro...@gmail.com -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Le Ministère de l'éducation couc he avec Microsoft et c'est nous qui payons la ***
J'ai traduit une affiche Ubuntu en français la semaine passé. Je n'ai pas vraiment d'endroit ou la mettre, surtout qu'en pdf sa fait 28Meg, alors il faudra downloader le fichier .png ou .jpg et la mettre en pdf vous-même si vous l'imprimez chez bureau en gros. N'oubliez pas de sélectionner le bon format d'impression.. (pour 11x17 c'est le format Tabloid) ;) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~swe3tdave/ubuntu-qc.org/poster/files/3 David Giard André Cotte a écrit : Bonjour, Aller voir l'affiche que j'ai fait réaliser à partir de ce qui se faisait en France. J'ai mis Payez-vous ... plutôt que Libérez-vous comme en France. C'est du 11 par 17, 1$ à faire imprimer chez Bureau en gros et près de 0.75 $ en quantité de 200. Ce qui manque au libre c'est beaucoup de la promotion et l'attention des journalistes. Rappelez-vous vers le milieu des années 80, l'Actualité avait fait un dossier qui montrait que le Québec était très en retard sur le monde et que ses étudiants deviendraient des illettrés des technologies. Ça n'a pas été long qu'on avait des milliers d'ordinateurs dans les écoles. L'affiche, c'est un début pour la promotion. Les journalistes ça s'en vient. L'article de Technaute ne sera pas le seul et je sais que l'opposition s'intéresse à cela. http://zonelibre.grics.qc.ca/spip.php?article238 André Cotte Philippe Marchand a écrit : Merci du tuyau, je viens de faire pareil. Je trouve vraiment incroyable le blocage de certaines personnes à passer à Open Office. Sérieusement, la différence avec MS Office est mineure. J'ai réussi à convaincre beaucoup d'étudiants à faire le saut, simplement par l'argument de la licence gratuite. La plupart utilisent des versions piratées de MS Office pour sauver de l'argent, et se retrouvent avec des problèmes une fois sur le réseau de l'université (clé identique sur le réseau, fermeture de l'application). Lorsque devant l'obligation de choisir entre payer le produit et utiliser une alternative, le choix n'est pas souvent difficile. Le problème c'est que ce ne sont pas les employés qui payent les licences (où ils ne se rendent pas compte qu'ils les payent). Peut-être devrait-on pirater Open Office, ça le rendrait plus populaire ;) Philippe Marchand 2009/4/1 David Giard swe3td...@ubuntu.com mailto:swe3td...@ubuntu.com Il y a justement une campagne de financement chez Facil(http://facil.qc.ca), ils veulent amener le gouvernement à considérer sérieusement les logiciels libres dans les appels d'offres publics. Ils ont besoin de 25000$, et ils ne sont qu'à 3640$. Sa serai une belle occasion pour devenir membre et/ou faire un don. C'est d'ailleurs justement ce que je viens de faire. David Giard -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] Ministère et...
Bonjour les Ubuntistes, Personnellement, je suis triste de voir que le Ministère de l'Éducation prône encore les logiciels...privés! Devons-nous en être surpris? Moi, je suis plutôt triste. Encore une fois, au lieu d'opter pour la démocratisation de la connaissance via la démocratisation de l'utilisation des ordinateurs accessibles versus les logiciels libres; on veut nous priver de la connaissance et rendre l'accès élitiste. Bien que cela soit que des mots, personnellement, je ne me laisserai pas miner par une telle situaiton. Au contraire, dès que j'aurai créé ma clée USB Ubuntu (j'attends le CD-ISO Ubuntu 8.10 Intreprid), je vais aller chez mes amis et amies aveugles et malvoyants... Remarque: En lisant l'affaire du virus Confiecker sur Radio-Canada du Carnet Techno, j'ai lu les commentaires des usagers qui répliquaient aux logiciels proposés. J'ai lu trois commentaires anti-Linux parce qu'un pro-linux avait osé dire que Linux ne vivait pas ce genre de situation-là! Cela a eu l'air de provoquer la rage des pro-Microsoft. Soyons plus actifs... Donald (aveugle) Découvrez les styles qui font sensation sur Yahoo! Québec Avatars. http://cf.avatars.yahoo.com/-- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleted files showing in some dialogue boxes
2009/4/1 Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com: Dianne, Those are backup files. To get to them in Nautilus, browse to the folder they're in (for example /home/Dianne/Documents/ ) and press Ctrl + H. This shows hidden files and folders. From there, you can just delete the files,then press ctrl + H again to hide hidden files and folders. If you don't hide them again, you'll find a lot of extra (configuration) folders in your Home directory. Hope that helps! For a bit more explanation, they can be created if you edit a file - GEdit saves a backup by default, as does vi/vim. Other editors probably do the same. You can definitely turn it off in vim (but I can't recall exactly what incantation you need to write in .vimrc), and probably in GEdit too. Ah, yes - in GEdit's preferences, choose the 'Editor' tab and turn off the option to make a backup copy. The other option is to try using Ctrl+H in the file dialog where you can see the extra files. Maybe this will hide the backup files and let you just select the ones you want. This depends a bit on exactly how the program is written though... Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast season two
Just a quick mail to let you know that episode 1 of season 2 of the Ubuntu Podcast from members of the UK LoCo team is out. http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2009/04/01/s02e01-the-return/ Feedback and suggestion as ever are always welcome! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast season two
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:44:13 +0100 Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Just a quick mail to let you know that episode 1 of season 2 of the Ubuntu Podcast from members of the UK LoCo team is out. http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2009/04/01/s02e01-the-return/ Feedback and suggestion as ever are always welcome! Cheers, Al. Welcome back! I love the new show format/style, it seems much more natural and yet still maintains the quality content and audio. Top job guys, looking forward to the rest of the season! :) -- Philip -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast season two
Alan Pope wrote: http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2009/04/01/s02e01-the-return/ Feedback and suggestion as ever are always welcome! woop woop Manchester Jaunty Release party plugged. :D -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: here are three things I found after installing ubuntu that need looking in to
Hi to all The problem with password causing Orca to doesn't respond is the gksu/gksudo utilities they are killers :-) I usually kill them after entering my password and everything goes well. Although I know that kiling this I am in security problem, but I prefer this more than don't access to apps. So I have created a short bash script that simply killall gksu and gksudo and attached it to a keybinding. enter a password for gksu after pressing enter key I press my shortcut key and no problem with a11y and at's. I don't know exactly what is the problem, why gksu and gksudo apps are blocking assistive technologies, I think that is related to keyboard grab, or IPC techniques but something might be done in gksu to avoid this Regards and go on on Ubuntu a11y, every six months it rocks more, thanks Luke! Javier signature.asc Description: Esto es una parte de mensaje firmado digitalmente -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
I have a question about lists in movie player
Hi, I am liking Linux more everyday. Today I tried the online lookup again in movie player. I was surprised to find what I was looking for. Using down arrow I could pick videos. But Orca doesn't announce the titles when using the down arrow key alone. I found by holding ctrl and pressing f1 it would read the title for me. Is there any way to get Orca to read the titles as you press the down arrow key? Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check
This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images. If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com. No problems found! -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Should mousing over (but not clicking) audio files on the desktop cause them to play invisibly?
So, by default Gnome has a feature that I've seen confuse at least a few users - if you leave the mouse over top an audio file it will automatically start playing the file, even if it's already open or you have other music playing at the same time. Upstream, however, seems reluctant to change it: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537905 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/237975 I'm convinced this goes way against user expectations. From the bug comments: 1) What value do audio previews serve? Most users will test a file by opening it. 2) If we do decide to continue with the preview, we need to make it very clear that an audio preview is playing and how to stop it (eg with a tooltip) 3) There is potential for harm here (playing music without being asked to during class/meeting, etc). This is especially true with audio files on the desktop. 4) We should never play an audio file with preview if it's already playing somewhere else. A common case of this is when I right click a file, tell it to open (or even queue) in my media player but leave my mouse nearby. The file will start playing, and also start previewing, leading to a very confusing double-sound. I've seen this affect several people now, and I'm quite convinced that the icon change is absolutely not enough. It's a small, hard to notice icon, it doesn't appear as soon as the audio starts, and most importantly it's not clear whether it means I will start playing sound in a second or click here to play sound. Many users would expect the latter, since they're about to open an audio file and clicking is what normally makes it play sound. At the very least, we should notify the user with some text somewhere, such as by using libnotify. So, would it be appropriate to disable this in Jaunty? Thanks, Scott Ritchie -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Should mousing over (but not clicking) audio files on the desktop cause them to play invisibly?
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: So, by default Gnome has a feature that I've seen confuse at least a few users - if you leave the mouse over top an audio file it will automatically start playing the file, even if it's already open or you have other music playing at the same time. A me too from me. That's always struck me as a crazy feature. I don't know if it is feasible to disable it at this stage in the release cycle, but I'd certainly welcome the change. I'm not convinced that the upstream bug has had much serious discussion, it's only one developer commenting so far. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Should mousing over (but not clicking) audio files on the desktop cause them to play invisibly?
gconf - /apps/nautilus/preferences/preview_sound local-only | always | never although I've always liked the feature... Jason Taylor 2009/4/3 Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: So, by default Gnome has a feature that I've seen confuse at least a few users - if you leave the mouse over top an audio file it will automatically start playing the file, even if it's already open or you have other music playing at the same time. A me too from me. That's always struck me as a crazy feature. I don't know if it is feasible to disable it at this stage in the release cycle, but I'd certainly welcome the change. I'm not convinced that the upstream bug has had much serious discussion, it's only one developer commenting so far. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day. - Calven -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Should mousing over (but not clicking) audio files on the desktop cause them to play invisibly?
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: So, by default Gnome has a feature that I've seen confuse at least a few users - if you leave the mouse over top an audio file it will automatically start playing the file, even if it's already open or you have other music playing at the same time. A me too from me. That's always struck me as a crazy feature. I don't know if it is feasible to disable it at this stage in the release cycle, but I'd certainly welcome the change. I'm not convinced that the upstream bug has had much serious discussion, it's only one developer commenting so far. Just want to add a voice opposed to disabling it. I find it a very useful feature myself. When browsing through directories with Nautilus, if I want to hear what a file is I don't necessarily want to open a full fledged audio player. - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Should mousing over (but not clicking) audio files on the desktop cause them to play invisibly?
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: So, by default Gnome has a feature that I've seen confuse at least a few users - if you leave the mouse over top an audio file it will automatically start playing the file, even if it's already open or you have other music playing at the same time. Upstream, however, seems reluctant to change it: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537905 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/237975 I'm convinced this goes way against user expectations. From the bug comments: 1) What value do audio previews serve? Most users will test a file by opening it. 2) If we do decide to continue with the preview, we need to make it very clear that an audio preview is playing and how to stop it (eg with a tooltip) 3) There is potential for harm here (playing music without being asked to during class/meeting, etc). This is especially true with audio files on the desktop. 4) We should never play an audio file with preview if it's already playing somewhere else. A common case of this is when I right click a file, tell it to open (or even queue) in my media player but leave my mouse nearby. The file will start playing, and also start previewing, leading to a very confusing double-sound. I've seen this affect several people now, and I'm quite convinced that the icon change is absolutely not enough. It's a small, hard to notice icon, it doesn't appear as soon as the audio starts, and most importantly it's not clear whether it means I will start playing sound in a second or click here to play sound. Many users would expect the latter, since they're about to open an audio file and clicking is what normally makes it play sound. At the very least, we should notify the user with some text somewhere, such as by using libnotify. So, would it be appropriate to disable this in Jaunty? I don't think so. The impression that I get is that the problem comes from the fact that it's happening on the desktop, and not subfolders. It's appropriate in subfolders; you're looking at files, you're purposely landing the mouse on those files, the icon changes and the audio preview starts. The desktop however, the mouse just lands where it lands. If there happens to be some audio underneath it, the audio preview might start before you manage to move the mouse again. This has happened to me a few times and every time it spooks me. Futhermore, the desktop often has a different background or texture, so it might take longer to notice the audio-preview icon there. If you don't like the audio preview feature at all, just disable it and it won't bother you again (until the next reinstall...) That's the point that Andre expressed in the bug. But the audio preview feature shouldn't be disruptive in the general case and IMO having it on the desktop is rather disruptive. Cosimo Cecchi wrote a patch that refactored the audio preview feature a bit. Once that lands, it should be fairly easy to disable on the desktop. -A. Walton Thanks, Scott Ritchie -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
2009/4/2 Simon Ives si...@simonives.info: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:18:47 +1100 Chris Debenham ch...@adebenham.com wrote: It's not easy, but you can set this up in gconf-editor. Run 'gconf-editor /apps/maximus' and change the value of 'exclude_class' to include the window class of whatever you want to ignore. To find out the class run 'xwininfo' and then click on the window in question - it will return with a line (among others) such as: xwininfo: Window id: 0x445 VLC media player In this case 'VLC media player' is probably the class you want Followed your advice and added the appropriate entry for VLC (which is VLC media player) but the app is still starting up maximised with Maximus. Any other advice? Try adding just VLC. Maximus does sub-string matching so that should be enough. Are there any other items in the list for exclude_class? -- SIMON IVES Consulting, advocacy innovation for non-profit and non-government organisations. - Please consider the environment before printing this email or any attachments. -- Bob Hope - You know you are getting old when the candles cost more than the cake. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
2009/4/2 ch...@adebenham.com: 2009/4/2 Simon Ives si...@simonives.info: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:18:47 +1100 Chris Debenham ch...@adebenham.com wrote: It's not easy, but you can set this up in gconf-editor. Run 'gconf-editor /apps/maximus' and change the value of 'exclude_class' to include the window class of whatever you want to ignore. To find out the class run 'xwininfo' and then click on the window in question - it will return with a line (among others) such as: xwininfo: Window id: 0x445 VLC media player In this case 'VLC media player' is probably the class you want Followed your advice and added the appropriate entry for VLC (which is VLC media player) but the app is still starting up maximised with Maximus. Any other advice? Try adding just VLC. Maximus does sub-string matching so that should be enough. Are there any other items in the list for exclude_class? Actually - just realised that maximus my be checking the 'WM_CLASS' setting. You can find that by running xprop | grep WM_CLASS but not all applications set that xproperty -- Samuel Goldwyn - I don't think anyone should write their autobiography until after they're dead. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
2009/4/2 ch...@adebenham.com: Actually - just realised that maximus my be checking the 'WM_CLASS' setting. You can find that by running xprop | grep WM_CLASS but not all applications set that xproperty These are the instructions that I got from the developer when Eclipse was doing the same thing (on its splash screen): Hmm, it seems it doesn't set the correct window_type hint hence maximus doens't know that it's a splashscreen. Can you please run $ xprop | grep WM_CLASS in a terminal,click on the splashscreen and then paste the output here please. It is a bit tricky to do this due to the distinct lack of space on the screen, so I normally: - Set the terminal window to be Above all windows - Run the command in the terminal - Alt+F2 and type in prgram name - click on the splashscreen Thanks. Just do the same, but for VLC I guess. Cheers, Whytey -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: installing 8.04 on sata drives prob
Hi Paul On Thursday 02 April 2009 14:05:42 Paul Gear wrote: James Takac wrote: Hi Guys I'm having probs installing ubuntu (32 bit) on a friends pc. Have loaned one of mine till I sort this out. Both live and alternate cds pass the integrity check yet both throw up read errors during the install phase. Both HDD and DVD drive are sata and bios shows them both on the same ide interface (#3) with the HDD as master and the DVD as slave. The processor is a 2.4g P4 celeron. Do I need to set specific parameters for the sata drives in BIOS maybe? The mobo is an ASUS PSGC-MX if that also helps. I'm not having much luck via google but suspect the prob to be related to both drives being sata and/or settings for the drives. Any ideas I can try? Check that the BIOS setting is AHCI on the SATA drives. It sounds like it's in ATA emulation mode. Paul The Bios seems to have a Compatibility mode and an Enhanced mode re the ide ports which below that can be set to S-ata, P-ata, or S-ata + P-ata. Setting to compatibility mode sets the 3rd by default which I'm trying now. I swore I saw settings earlier re the DMA's and such but that may have been another pc I worked on the other day James -- Now you are going to ask me how to destroy this stark awareness of your self. You might be thinking that if you destroy this sense of your self you will destroy everythingelse too and you will be right. But I will answer this fear by telling you that without a very special grace from God and without a particular aptitude on your part, you will never beable to get rid of this naked sense of self. For your part, this aptitude consists of a robust and profound sorrow of spirit.Everybody has a special reason for grief, but the person who has a deep experience of himself existing apart from God feels the most acute sorrow. Once we have aquired this sorrow it not only purifies our souls, but it takes away all the pain merited by sin and thus makes the soul capable of receivingthat joy which takes from a man all sense of his own being. If this sorrow is genuine, it is full of holy longing. Otherwise nobody could bear it. from The Cloud of Unknowing -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Simply Backup help
Callan Davies wrote: I've found it works really well, but I can't say I've ever tried a restore. I really would try that ;-) That is probably the biggest problem with backups - people find they can't restore. This could be for a variety of reasons (media, setup ...). You should be able to restore to some other area than the original. You will also have been through it before when you come to the heart flutter situation of really needing to do it ;-) Just to add another option into the mix. I've used Amanda (http://www.amanda.org/) for years. It is trickier to set up and all command line stuff. I use an external USB disk. Prior to that I used tapes. The backup does selected partitions from all machines on the network. I've pulled out individual files from backup and unfortunately had to recover an entire partition. One nice thing is that the backup format is basically a tarball with some info on the front. You can skip passed that initial info to have a normal tarball. With some backup solutions (mainly priority) you end up with some format where you need the original software. Regards ...Peter -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: installing 8.04 on sata drives prob
Hi Paul On Friday 03 April 2009 06:57:26 Paul Gear wrote: James Takac wrote: ... Check that the BIOS setting is AHCI on the SATA drives. It sounds like it's in ATA emulation mode. Paul The Bios seems to have a Compatibility mode and an Enhanced mode re the ide ports which below that can be set to S-ata, P-ata, or S-ata + P-ata. Setting to compatibility mode sets the 3rd by default which I'm trying now. I swore I saw settings earlier re the DMA's and such but that may have been another pc I worked on the other day That sounds like the problem. You definitely don't want compatibility mode. Paul I tried compatibility mode last night cuz in enhanced mode I was having the probs. Enhanced mode sets to S-ata by default. I find I'm having the same probs both ways, i.e. it gets thru the formatting of the drive just fine. It falls down with read errors when copying files to the HDD every time. Pretty much every cd and distro I tried has done the same which is what had me suspecting the pc as the culprit and the only thing different was the sata drives re other systems I've installed I've just dloaded 8.10 to see if that makes a dif as well James -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: update ubuntu-docs errors
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Adi Roiban a...@roiban.ro wrote: Hi, This is just a short notice to let you know I have updated the Jaunty Ubuntu Docs errors page: http://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/ubuntu-docs-jaunty/ Thanks Adi - I'd be very grateful if translators could seek to fix these errors in advance of the deadline for non-language pack translations on 9 April. The worst offenders are Russian and Brazilian Portuguese, although if everyone could check the error page, that would be helpful, because there are quite a few other languages with the occasional error. Some guidelines on how to translate documentation and check the translations, please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
Hi David, У чет, 02. 04 2009. у 13:39 +0200, David Planella пише: as announced by Jono on his blog [1] (and now on my brand new one as well ;) [2]), I'll be joining Canonical as the Ubuntu Translations Coordinator on Monday the 6th of April (next week), so I simply wanted to send a brief introductory message before starting in full swing on Monday. Welcome to your new role. I am very happy to see you around, and I look forward to working with you :) Cheers, Danilo -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
On Jo, 2009-04-02 at 13:39 +0200, David Planella wrote: Hi all, as announced by Jono on his blog [1] (and now on my brand new one as well ;) [2]), I'll be joining Canonical as the Ubuntu Translations Coordinator on Monday the 6th of April (next week), so I simply wanted to send a brief introductory message before starting in full swing on Monday. Hi and Welcome aboard! For quick talks feel free to contact me via #ubuntu-translators IRC channel. I will be more than happy to help you or share my knowledge. Looking forward for metting you in Barcelona :) -- Adi Roiban -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
David Planella escribió: Hi all, as announced by Jono on his blog [1] (and now on my brand new one as well ;) [2]), I'll be joining Canonical as the Ubuntu Translations Coordinator on Monday the 6th of April (next week), so I simply wanted to send a brief introductory message before starting in full swing on Monday. Some of you might already know me from this list as an Ubuntu translator and coordinator of the Catalan team [3]. I am also actively involved in upstream translations [4], especially in GNOME, Debian, the Translation Project and OpenOffice, which will certainly assist me in one of our main objectives: strengthening and fostering the relationships with upstream translation communities. I am also looking forward to getting to know other communities new to me so far, such as KDE and Xfce. I speak Catalan, Spanish and German, so you can contact me in any of those languages, although for general questions regarding Ubuntu translations I would encourage you to use this list (in English), so that discussions are open to all community members. As Steve Langasek announced some days ago [5], time is tight for Jaunty translations (the first deadline for non-langpacks being in a week's time), but I'm sure we will manage to make this release the best one in translations so far! I would like to thank Adi, Evan, Gabor, Kenneth, Milo, Og, Ricardo, Timo and all the other Ubuntu translators for their continued commitment not only in translation but also in ironing out bugs and actively improving the workflow. And not to forget the great work of the Launchpad Translations developers and the Ubuntu Docs team. You will certainly be an inspiration in this new role, and I'll be looking forward to getting to know you if are coming to the next UDS in Barcelona [6]. Regards, David. [1] http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/03/30/the-fourth-horseman-steps-forward/ [2] http://davidplanella.wordpress.com [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCatalanTranslators [4] http://davidplanella.wordpress.com/about/ [5] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2009-March/002244.html [6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSKarmic Congratulations, David! !Felicidades! Felicitats i bona sort en aquest nou repte! :) Regars, Natacha -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: update ubuntu-docs errors
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com wrote: The worst offenders are Russian and Brazilian Portuguese, although if everyone could check the error page, that would be helpful, because there are quite a few other languages with the occasional error. Fixed, again. Wondering for how long. When is the next round of validation checks, if any? -- Alexey -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: jaunty beta + kernel RT
Luke Yelavich a écrit : On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 03:43:38PM EST, laurent.bellegarde wrote: So after booting under 2.6.28-11-generic, i've look to theses packages, they are installed already. i've tried your command laur...@laurent-laptop:~$ sudo dkms -k 2.6.28-3-rt build -m fglrx -v 8.600 [sudo] password for laurent: Error! Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.28-3-rt cannot be found at /lib/modules/2.6.28-3-rt/build or /lib/modules/2.6.28-3-rt/source. You can use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located. laur...@laurent-laptop:~$ sudo dkms --kernelsourcedir build -m fglrx -v 8.600 laur...@laurent-laptop:~$ and then i reboot on RT-kernel, but same end, X crash and nothing work. Ok, you need to install linux-headers-2.6.28-3-rt, and then run the command I gave you again. i've installed this package, done the command again, here is the terminal : laur...@laurent-laptop:~$ sudo dkms -k 2.6.28-3-rt build -m fglrx -v 8.600 [sudo] password for laurent: Error! This module/version has already been built on: 2.6.28-3-rt Directory: /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.600/2.6.28-3-rt/i686 already exists. Use the dkms remove function before trying to build again. a new boot with fglrx activated done the same trouble with X. So a get a new boot under generic kernel, desactivate flgrx driver, free radeon driver has been activated, then a reboot on rt-kernel. I've get a usable desktop. video resolution is ok, refreshing rate seems to be ok too. I didn't test acceleration and 3D effects, but under fglrx there is many trouble with compiz activated, so i'm waiting. the loaded kernel was an rt one, as the command tell it : laur...@laurent-laptop:~$ uname -a Linux laurent-laptop 2.6.28-3-rt #9-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Fri Mar 27 23:23:50 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux so, i load qjackctl and try rt with my two sound card. - if i have rt on with internal sound card (bad one) hw0 - jackd crash - if i have rt on with external sound card USB (good one) hw1 - jackd crash and said this : 07:40:14.871 /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p64 -n2 07:40:14.887 JACK a été démarrer avec le PID=4403. no message buffer overruns jackd 0.116.1 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1211967808, from thread -1211967808] (1: Operation not permitted) cannot create engine 07:40:14.900 JACK a été arrêté avec succès. 07:40:14.900 Script post-extinction... 07:40:14.901 killall jackd jackd: aucun processus tué 07:40:15.313 Script post-extinction terminé avec statut de sortie=256. 07:40:16.894 Impossible de connecter le serveur JACK comme client. - L'opération a échoué. - Incapable de se connecter au serveur. Veuillez consulter la fenêtre des messages pour plus d'informations. for memory, hw1 is working fine under hardy studio 8.04 64 bits RT with 64 frames/periode and 2,6ms for latency, hw0 is working but with few xruns. i've done the same test, but without checking the rt checkbox in qjackctl. same result for hw1 on usb, the sound card never work...and the frame/period change nothing. for hw0, a surprising result, with 512 frame/periode, 26,3ms for latency (so a bad one), the card is working not too bas, with few xruns. I've tried at 256 frames/periodes with ardour reading a wav file, and hydrogen playing a drumkit, recorded in ardour, it's working with few xruns. below 256, too many xruns. for conclusion, the internal sound card is working a little bit better than in hardy studio rt, but the usb one is not working at all. Bye Laurent -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Jaunty RT testing
I've been reading this list in the archives for a while now, and decided to join up so I could pitch in with the Jaunty Beta testing. Still fairly new to Linux, and to using e-mail lists for that matter, so keep that in mind as you read this. First up, here's my hardware. It's a fairly old desktop that I use for testing: Motherboard: Asrock K7VT4A Processor: AMD Sempron 2400+ Video: ATI Radeon 9600+ Memory: 2 GB Audio Interface: Presonus Firepod I grabbed the Beta on the day of its release, and the good news is that the install ran smoothly and I had the RT kernel up and running after not too much hassle. I should say that I was using a regular Jaunty CD with the UbuntuStudio audio and graphics meta-packages installed, and not the actual UbuntuStudio CD. My Firepod has always worked well with Linux, which I'm thankful for. As for performance, the freebob driver in Jack is essentially useless on this computer, too many X-runs (although it seems to work great on my MacBook booted into Hardy, which is my production machine). However, the firewire driver (FFADO, right?) works wonderfully. I spent an hour or so messing around with a simple three-track live recording, and there was not a single X-run (JACK settings were Frame/Periods: 256, Sample Rate: 44100 Periods/Buffer: 3). BUT, I ran into problems while trying to do my final mixdowns from Ardour. To be exact, I couldn't mix down a full track without JACK shutting down. I tried easing the JACK settings back a little, but still no luck. The tracks would mixdown, but JACK would immediately then crash, and I'd have to restart the Firepod and JACK to get things going again. It's hard to tell if this is due to the age of the computer, or the RT kernel. Also, I ran into problems with some of the plug-ins in Ardour. I found that I could not adjust many of the settings (for instance, the frequency setting in a parametric EQ I was using could not be changed at all). I remember reading on the Ardour website that there might be some problems with the packages in the Ubuntu repos. So I re-installed Ardour using a .deb I downloaded from getdeb.net, and the problem disappeared. Is this something your package managers can fix? The final HUGE glaring bug is that the RT kernel will not shut down or restart. When I try, it just freezes, and I need to shutdown the computer manually. This is not a problem with the generic kernel. Overall, everything is working suprisingly well for a beta. I'm really looking forward to using this kernel on my MacBook. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-ec] Arte del Flisol 2009 para las comunidades
Hola compañeros: Transcribo el correo que nuestro compañero, El Humano, ha tenido la gentileza de compartir su arte del afiche promocional para el flisol 2009 Ecuador. --- El humano Escribio: Saludos Pedro, Te hago llegar un svg del afiche, para que el flisol sea promovido equitativamente por todas las comunidades y que cada comunidad pueda incluir sus distintivos. Gary PD: sea la paz entre todas la comunidades ;-) --- Esto quiere decir que podemos usar el arte y poner nuestro logotipo distintivo como Ubuntu Ecuador y difundirlo como estimemos conveniente. Quedo a espera de sus comentarios. Saludos Pedro Franco -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
[ubuntu-ec] Servidor Radius
Hola a todos. Estoy tratando de configurar un servidor radius sobre ubuntu, pero aun no lo logro. Me esta rechazando las autenticaciones. Alguien tiene alguna idea de que me podrá estar faltando. Thu Apr 2 18:43:16 2009: DEBUG: Handling with Radius::AuthUNIX: System Thu Apr 2 18:43:16 2009: DEBUG: Radius::AuthUNIX looks for match with soabad [soabad] Thu Apr 2 18:43:16 2009: DEBUG: Radius::AuthUNIX REJECT: User soabad is not in Group noctloja: soabad [soabad] Thu Apr 2 18:43:16 2009: DEBUG: Radius::AuthFILE REJECT: User soabad is not in Group noctloja: DEFAULT12 [soabad] Thu Apr 2 18:43:16 2009: DEBUG: AuthBy FILE result: REJECT, User soabad is not in Group xyz Thu Apr 2 18:43:16 2009: INFO: Access rejected for soabad: User soabad is not in Group xyz Thu Apr 2 18:43:16 2009: DEBUG: Packet dump: -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] [Guls] Reflexiós sobre o nosos futuro
Ola a t...@s, Evidentemente Miguel vai estar nesta reunión. Eu non vou poder ir, pero gustaríame saber se alguén máis do grupo vai estar por alí para botarlle unha man. Se se fai esa xuntanza co novo goberno creo que quen debería ir sería algún representante de toda a comunidade de tradutores, non explícitamente alguén dos tradutores de Ubuntu. Desde o meu punto de vista, o importante é continuar co noso traballo e simplemente que se saiba que existimos e o que facemos. Un saúdo. Felipe. Miguel Bouzada wrote: Despois de lanzar ó ar as miñas ideas, deixei que a xente respondera para tratar de ver cal é a inquedanza sobre o tema. Eu estarei no XGN, así que creo que será un bo momento para facer unha primeira aproximación e tentar establecer unha base de dialogo/propostas. Dende aquí un chamamento a todolos axentes do SwL para vernos. MB 2009/3/30 Denís Fernández Cabrera de...@ceibes.org Certo é. Se cadra podiamos tentar ter unha primeira reunión nesta fin de semana, que como sabedes é a XGN e vai a vir bastante xente por Compostela. É unha excusa tan boa coma calquera outra para nos reunir todos nun mesmo sitio (e non esquenzamos que os GUGLs temos alí espazo, tamén). Denís. -- Denís Fernández Cabrera mailto://de...@ceibes.org http://gatonegro.ceibes.org 2009/3/30 Miguel migue...@gmail.com: Olá, Vai pasando e creo que nos olvidamos totalmente do tema. Posiblemente o problema sexa o de sempre, que non concretamos e todo acaba pasando e olvidándose. Así que deberíamos de comezar a pensar en propoñer algo. Eu creo que o mellor sería nesta semana decidir un representante de cada asociación para de Guls, traductores e empresas para reducir un pouco o grupo de traballo e entre eles porse de acordo para seleccionar a 3 persoas que se reunan co novo goberno. Para esa reunión podería redactarse un pequeno documento cas nosas inquedanzas, explicarlle porqué defendemos o que defendemos. E unha vez alí intentar saber cales son os seus plans en canto ó software libre e a que nivel queren levar a súa colaboración co texido asociativo existente. Saúdos, Miguel. 2009/3/16 Miguel Bouzada mbouz...@gmail.com: 2009/3/16 Denís Fernández Cabrera de...@ceibes.org Penso que é moi importante distinguir o detalle nesta proposta de Miguel -- temos que ter, evidentemente, un funcionamento interno o mais plural e democrático posible dentro do grupo de traballo e entre nos, pero é *absolutamente vital* que presentemos unha postura conxunta e coordinada de cara ao exterior. Ten boa razón Francisco en que o 2M non é o apocalipse nen moito menos -- o Software Ceibe existiu antes, e existirá despois. Ten necesariamente que trascender esta situación. Pero é que a necesidade dun grupo que nos coordine un pouco e que presente un interlocutor claro de cara á sociedade xa viña de antes do goberno do bipartito: sempre estivo aí, precisamente porque hai demasiadas sensibilidades que en realidade se diferencian por cuestións que para a maioría da poboación -- esa á que temos que convencer -- lle parecen bizantinos. (Aproveito tamén este correo para comentarvos a todos que non me esquenzo de que temos asuntos pendentes ca Xunta e co tema das licenzas, Galinux e demais -- asuntos que quedaron truncados polas eleccións e que hai que retomar en canto as augas se calmen. Acho, por certo, que este grupo de representantes podería ser unha boa canle para xestionar estes temas.) Denís. As miñas palabras non viñan tanto a que tema unha debacle, como a que a mudanza que se ten de producir na administración debe provocar unha mudanza nos nosos xeitos de actuar cara a galería (entendendo esto no senso positivo). Que andamos un pouco espallados esta ben craro, pero cando falo con xente doutros grupos, a pesares das diferenzas, sempre acabamos entendendonos e purrando no mesmo sentido, polo que creo que será doado chegar a posturas comuns. Esto creo que será positivo en todolos sensos para todos os implicados, por activa ou por pasiva e cara a administracioón será máis sinxelo consensuar actividades ao non ter que facer panos quentes asegún con quen falen/s. Sempre tiven a sensación (digo:sensación) de que antes interesaba que funcionaramos como reinos de taifas e sempre pensei (e sigo a pensalo) que isto só favorecía á outra parte e non a os axentes do SwL. M B -- Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx Instale OpenOffice dende http://www.mancomun.org/index.php/component/option,com_content/task,view/id,368/Itemid,113/.. ., é LIBRE, DE BALDE, totalmente LEGAL, funciona mellor que outros paquetes de oficina, e está en continuo desenvolvemento. ___ Guls mailing list
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Editor de paginas web
Lucio M Nicolosi wrote: 2009/4/1 Milho milh...@yahoo.com.br: Oi Lúcio, poderia citar alguma dessas opções mais profissionais q mencionou? Uso o kompozer por achar ele a ferramenta mais profissional q eu poderia ter em Linux, mas se tem algo mais poderoso adoraria testar. Obrigado pela atenção. MilhoXP Komposing... Lucio M Nicolosi wrote: 2009/4/1 José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com: Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 18:18 -0300, Marcelo Silva escreveu: Veja só... Não sei se pegou essa época, foi quando surgiu o FrontPage o Mozilla lançou um Editor de páginas incorporado ao antigo Netscape e este se chamava compozer (acho que era com c mesmo). Entao gostaria de saber se o Firefox (sucessor dele) tem alguma opção neste sentido. Pois era um bom editor de páginas. Será que o Kompozer vei no lugar dele? Quando a Mozilla Foundation separou o componente Browser (Firefox) e correio (Thunderbird), ninguém quis ficar c om o editor de páginas. Dai surgiu o NVU para encher esse nicho e o Kompozer é o sucessor do NVU por questões de direito autoral Que eu saiba o Kompozer veio no lugar do NVU (ou vice versa) -- Marcelo Silva marc...@ig.com.br Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 18:05 -0300, Salles escreveu: Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 17:45 -0300, Marcelo Silva escreveu: Sei que esse assunto ja foi bastante discutido na lista, mas a duvida é relacionada, alguem lembra do Editor que vinha com o Mozilla antes de se tornar Firefox? Era o Compozer, ele ainda existe? Tem como instalar no linux ? Marcelo, você estaria falando do Kompozer? Dê uma olhada na descrição dele no adicionar/remover. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Marcelo Silva marc...@ig.com.br KompoZer é o sucessor do NVU que deu sequência ao Composer do Netscape. Última versão (0.8a1) só em: http://kompozer.net/ O KompoZer é muito prático mas ainda não chegou à versão 1.00. Há outras ferramentas mais profissionais para Web Design, veja algumas alternativas em Synaptic. Não tenho usado essas aplicações, mas uma busca por ubuntu+web+designer+software retornou entre outros, esse link: http://tips.webdesign10.com/using-linux-for-web-design-and-development-ubuntu Deve instalar e avaliar as alternativas para escolher a opção mais adequada para o seu caso. Por favor, poste sempre suas respostas no fim da mensagem, nunca no começo. É a regra para listas desse tipo. Obrigado pela dica e peço desculpas pelo posicionamento da resposta. É q desde q participo da lista sempre postei no início e nunca ninguém reclamou. estarei alterando meu comportamento a partir de agora :) Novamente, peço desculpas e agradeço. MilhoXP Kompozing? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Editor de paginas web
2009/4/1 Milho milh...@yahoo.com.br: Oi Lúcio, poderia citar alguma dessas opções mais profissionais q mencionou? Uso o kompozer por achar ele a ferramenta mais profissional q eu poderia ter em Linux, mas se tem algo mais poderoso adoraria testar. Obrigado pela atenção. MilhoXP Komposing... Lucio M Nicolosi wrote: 2009/4/1 José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com: Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 18:18 -0300, Marcelo Silva escreveu: Veja só... Não sei se pegou essa época, foi quando surgiu o FrontPage o Mozilla lançou um Editor de páginas incorporado ao antigo Netscape e este se chamava compozer (acho que era com c mesmo). Entao gostaria de saber se o Firefox (sucessor dele) tem alguma opção neste sentido. Pois era um bom editor de páginas. Será que o Kompozer vei no lugar dele? Quando a Mozilla Foundation separou o componente Browser (Firefox) e correio (Thunderbird), ninguém quis ficar c om o editor de páginas. Dai surgiu o NVU para encher esse nicho e o Kompozer é o sucessor do NVU por questões de direito autoral Que eu saiba o Kompozer veio no lugar do NVU (ou vice versa) -- Marcelo Silva marc...@ig.com.br Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 18:05 -0300, Salles escreveu: Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 17:45 -0300, Marcelo Silva escreveu: Sei que esse assunto ja foi bastante discutido na lista, mas a duvida é relacionada, alguem lembra do Editor que vinha com o Mozilla antes de se tornar Firefox? Era o Compozer, ele ainda existe? Tem como instalar no linux ? Marcelo, você estaria falando do Kompozer? Dê uma olhada na descrição dele no adicionar/remover. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Marcelo Silva marc...@ig.com.br KompoZer é o sucessor do NVU que deu sequência ao Composer do Netscape. Última versão (0.8a1) só em: http://kompozer.net/ O KompoZer é muito prático mas ainda não chegou à versão 1.00. Há outras ferramentas mais profissionais para Web Design, veja algumas alternativas em Synaptic. Não tenho usado essas aplicações, mas uma busca por ubuntu+web+designer+software retornou entre outros, esse link: http://tips.webdesign10.com/using-linux-for-web-design-and-development-ubuntu Deve instalar e avaliar as alternativas para escolher a opção mais adequada para o seu caso. Por favor, poste sempre suas respostas no fim da mensagem, nunca no começo. É a regra para listas desse tipo. -- Lucio M Nicolosi, Eng. - Sao Paulo - Brazil skype: lmnicolosi1 Lat.: 23°34'4.79S - Long.: 46°39'59.53W Linux Regist. User #481505 - http://counter.li.org/ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] LAMP
Bom dia à todos, Instalei o Apache + MySql + PHP através do # apitude install apache2 mysql-server php5 realizei o teste do phpinfo() (http://localhost/info.php), e apareceu a página com as informações sobre o php e os módulos normal, quando copiei um projeto caseiro (http://localhost/projeto) ele carrega aquela página de off-line tem alguma configuração adicional a fazer? estou jogando os arquivos e dei permissão de escrita/leitura para # var/www -- ___ Jean Pierre Jochen === ICQ: 417.933.616 Linux User # 480201 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Editor de paginas web
Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 18:18 -0300, Marcelo Silva escreveu: Veja só... Não sei se pegou essa época, foi quando surgiu o FrontPage o Mozilla lançou um Editor de páginas incorporado ao antigo Netscape e este se chamava compozer (acho que era com c mesmo). Entao gostaria de saber se o Firefox (sucessor dele) tem alguma opção neste sentido. Pois era um bom editor de páginas. Será que o Kompozer vei no lugar dele? Que eu saiba o Kompozer veio no lugar do NVU (ou vice versa) Não sei, mano. Nessa época usava direto o front page e tinha muito pouco conhecimento dos linuxs. Quando migrei de vez peguei o NVU por ser bem similar ao que estava acostumado, mas dei um tempo com webdesign e estou meio alheio aos programas atuais. Dá uma experimentada no Komposer, acho que vais se adaptar. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Domínio Público
2009/4/1 José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 09:32 -0300, Marcelo Torres escreveu: É... Alguém aqui tem 100% dos softwares legalizados? incluindo mp3? Não sei se a pergunta foi para mim, mas respondo sim, incluindo mp3!. Mas tenho que admitir que dar um SHIFT+DEL na minha pasta com a discografia do Bob Marley foi punk... mas fiz e hoje só tenho mp3 de CDs que eu tenho o original. O que eu acho mais engraçado é que o que causa espanto é a forma correta de agir. Veja o tom de espanto na pergunta: Alguém aqui tem 100% de software legalizados?? Inclusive mp3?? o.O sendo que o espanto deveria ser o contrário: Puxa!! Existe alguém que tem músicas roubadas em seu computador!!!??? Credo... -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Domínio Público
2009/4/2 Danilo Magrini danilo.magr...@gmail.com 2009/4/1 José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com Em Qua, 2009-04-01 às 09:32 -0300, Marcelo Torres escreveu: É... Alguém aqui tem 100% dos softwares legalizados? incluindo mp3? Não sei se a pergunta foi para mim, mas respondo sim, incluindo mp3!. Mas tenho que admitir que dar um SHIFT+DEL na minha pasta com a discografia do Bob Marley foi punk... mas fiz e hoje só tenho mp3 de CDs que eu tenho o original. O que eu acho mais engraçado é que o que causa espanto é a forma correta de agir. Veja o tom de espanto na pergunta: Alguém aqui tem 100% de software legalizados?? Inclusive mp3?? o.O sendo que o espanto deveria ser o contrário: Puxa!! Existe alguém que tem músicas roubadas em seu computador!!!??? Credo... -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br Sim José, Isto se chama inversão de valores. Nos espantamos com o correto ao invés do contrário... Um dia chegaremos lá! Abraços, -- Marcelo Torres Ubuntu User #26396 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Editor de paginas web
Acho que praticamente todos os editores ali não são do tipo wysiwyg (what you see is what you get), que você pode editar sem ver o código como nvu, kompozer, dreamwaver... Suponho que ele queira este tipo, porque era bem o foco do editor da antiga mozilla suite. Neste caso, o único que já vi além do kompozer e seus ancestrais, é o openoffice writer que também serve pra isso (arquivo, novo, documento html) e o Amaya. Não gostei muito destas últimas opções, wysiwyg o kompozer ou nvu parece mais profissional, mas vale dar uma olhada. Não que não exista outro, mas na época que eu procurei foi o que encontrei. 2009/4/2 Lucio M Nicolosi lmnicol...@gmail.com Não tenho usado essas aplicações, mas uma busca por ubuntu+web+designer+software retornou entre outros, esse link: http://tips.webdesign10.com/using-linux-for-web-design-and-development-ubuntu Deve instalar e avaliar as alternativas para escolher a opção mais adequada para o seu caso. Por favor, poste sempre suas respostas no fim da mensagem, nunca no começo. É a regra para listas desse tipo. -- Lucio M Nicolosi, Eng. - Sao Paulo - Brazil skype: lmnicolosi1 Lat.: 23°34'4.79S - Long.: 46°39'59.53W Linux Regist. User #481505 - http://counter.li.org/ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Digest ubuntu-br, volume 49, assunto 9
bom cara faltou instalar libapache2-mod-php5 Bom dia à todos, Instalei o Apache + MySql + PHP através do # apitude install apache2 mysql-server php5 realizei o teste do phpinfo() (http://localhost/info.php), e apareceu a página com as informações sobre o php e os módulos normal, quando copiei um projeto caseiro (http://localhost/projeto) ele carrega aquela página de off-line tem alguma configuração adicional a fazer? estou jogando os arquivos e dei permissão de escrita/leitura para # var/www -- ___ Jean Pierre Jochen === ICQ: 417.933.616 Linux User # 480201 -- -- ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com www.ubuntu-br.org https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br Fim da Digest ubuntu-br, volume 49, assunto 9 * -- Alberto Guimarães Viana E-mail: albertogvi...@gmail.com Uma pessoa inteligente resolve um problema, um sábio o previne. Albert Einstein -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Digest ubuntu-br, volume 49, assunto 9
humm, ok amigo, obrigado 2009/4/2 Alberto Viana albertogvi...@gmail.com bom cara faltou instalar libapache2-mod-php5 Bom dia à todos, Instalei o Apache + MySql + PHP através do # apitude install apache2 mysql-server php5 realizei o teste do phpinfo() (http://localhost/info.php), e apareceu a página com as informações sobre o php e os módulos normal, quando copiei um projeto caseiro (http://localhost/projeto) ele carrega aquela página de off-line tem alguma configuração adicional a fazer? estou jogando os arquivos e dei permissão de escrita/leitura para # var/www -- ___ Jean Pierre Jochen === ICQ: 417.933.616 Linux User # 480201 -- -- ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com www.ubuntu-br.org https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br Fim da Digest ubuntu-br, volume 49, assunto 9 * -- Alberto Guimarães Viana E-mail: albertogvi...@gmail.com Uma pessoa inteligente resolve um problema, um sábio o previne. Albert Einstein -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- ___ Jean Pierre Jochen === ICQ: 417.933.616 Linux User # 480201 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Error 15 de GRUB
Oi Em alguns gabinetes antigos com Ubuntu 9.04 ou 8.10 instalado já aconteceu de aparecer: GRUB loading, please wait... Error 15 Alguém sabe se tem jeito? :) Se sim, daria pra me indicar um texto passo a passo pra resolver o prb? -- Beijins Fa Passarinho que acompanha morcego, dorme de cabeça pra baixo. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Digest ubuntu-br, volume 48, assunto 172
José Geraldo Gostaria de saber se quando desligamos a máquina e no dia seguinte essas permissões continuam. Se sim como faço para voltar ao estado original? Ficaria muito grato pela informação. Prof. Stanley -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:16:40 -0300 From: José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] limpar lixeira To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 1238516200.6100.0.ca...@scriptorium.velox.com.br Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Em Ter, 2009-03-31 às 09:10 -0300, AD Regis escreveu: Sou novato mas acho que não deveria usar o chmod. Acho que deve, se souber o que está fazendo. Libere só aquela pasta naquela sessão. O comando chmod dentro da pasta ~/.local/share/Trash liberará somente a lixeira. Se liberar tudo parece que compromete arquivos que não podem ter acesso total e isso cria erros futuros. Sim, tem que saber onde mexer. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Restore MySQL com MySQL Administrator - Impraticavel
2009/4/2 Marcelo Silva marc...@ig.com.br: [...] Acontece que tenho o MySQL Administrator no Ubuntu e pra fazer backup do mysql está um show[...] Marcelo porque não uso o mysqldump? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/mysqldump.html [...]tentando restaurar este backup na minha maquina para trabalhar localmente (maquina de desenvolvimento) e pra minha surpresa ele está muito lento... bem eu diria quase parado, pra se ter uma ideia deixei a maquina restaurando a noite toda e nao terminou... Pois é, ele faz insert por insert Porque não restaura assim: $mysql -u user -p database arquivo_mysqldump O que poderia ser... alguem teria uma dica por onde começar a encontrar problemas? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/ http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/mysqldump.html http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/mysql.html Marcelo Silva marc...@ig.com.br - []s - Zandre. :: br-linux.org/linux/e-mala -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Error 15 de GRUB
Em Qui, 2009-04-02 às 09:51 -0300, Fa escreveu: Oi Em alguns gabinetes antigos com Ubuntu 9.04 ou 8.10 instalado já aconteceu de aparecer: GRUB loading, please wait... Error 15 Alguém sabe se tem jeito? :) Se sim, daria pra me indicar um texto passo a passo pra resolver o prb? Retirado de: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting 15 : File not found This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK. Acho que pode estar relacionado com: 13 : Invalid or unsupported executable format This error is returned if the kernel image being loaded is not recognized as Multiboot or one of the supported native formats (Linux zImage or bzImage, FreeBSD, or NetBSD). Experimente entrar pelo modo seguro e depois confirme o boot normal. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Digest ubuntu-br, volume 49, assunto 9
Alberto, *evite* responder a digests. Elas quebram a lista e fazem com que fique difícil saber do que você está falando. Mais atenção da próxima vez, ok ? :) 2009/4/2 Alberto Viana albertogvi...@gmail.com bom cara faltou instalar libapache2-mod-php5 Bom dia à todos, Instalei o Apache + MySql + PHP através do # apitude install apache2 mysql-server php5 realizei o teste do phpinfo() (http://localhost/info.php), e apareceu a página com as informações sobre o php e os módulos normal, quando copiei um projeto caseiro (http://localhost/projeto) ele carrega aquela página de off-line tem alguma configuração adicional a fazer? estou jogando os arquivos e dei permissão de escrita/leitura para # var/www -- ___ Jean Pierre Jochen === ICQ: 417.933.616 Linux User # 480201 -- -- ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com www.ubuntu-br.org https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br Fim da Digest ubuntu-br, volume 49, assunto 9 * -- Alberto Guimarães Viana E-mail: albertogvi...@gmail.com Uma pessoa inteligente resolve um problema, um sábio o previne. Albert Einstein -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Procuro contúdo ubuntu+open office p ara dar curso
Sim, vou utilizar o material do telecentro pois não crio que seja presiso acrescentar qualquer coisa aquele material. Esta perfeito, apostila para os alunos, exercicio para cada aula, slides para cada aula, e até um plano de ensino, para cada aula. Muito bom o detalhe do firefox, pode ter certeza que eu não vou esquecer de falar não. :D 2009/4/1 Francival Lima francival.l...@gmail.com Por nada! :-) Só uma pergunta: utilizaste o material do site http://www.telecentro.niteroi.rj.gov.br/ ? Por fim, uma curiosidade: não esquece de falar para os teus alunos que o nome Firefox, apesar de ser traduzido ao pé da letra como raposa de fogo, se refere na verdade ao panda-vermelho. Entretanto, o logo do navegador passa a idéia de uma raposa de fogo, mesmo. Essas informações estão disponíveis em: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox Inté + e Boa sorte no curso. -- Francival Lima http://francival.wordpress.com 2009/4/1 Gabriel Molter gabriel.mol...@gmail.com Muito Obrigado, sua ajuda foi muito importante apra mim, pois neste site achei tudo oque presisava para o curso, desde as apostilas, exercícios para os alunos, slide's, nossa cara, muito bom. Desde já meu muito obrigado 2009/3/27 Francival Lima francival.l...@gmail.com Olá Gabriel, Acho que a tendência é trabalharmos cada vez mais com a Internet. Por isso, acredito que deve-se incluir em cursos de inclusão digital noções em segurança da informação (falar para a garotada para não deixar o seu orkut aberto para todo mundo; não abrir aquivos anexados em e-mails de pessoas desconhecidas; a importância do sigilo de senhas de sistemas; os cuidados para criar uma senha; não acessar sites bancários em cyber cafés; e etc). Abaixo seguem alguns links para conseguir informações sobre segurança da informação que poderias utilizar no teu curso: Cartilha de segurança para a Internet: http://cartilha.cert.br/ Vídeos interessantes sobre segurança: http://www.antispam.br/videos/(sóhttp://www.antispam.br/videos/%28s%C3%B3 http://www.antispam.br/videos/%28s%C3%B3 esses vídeos já fornecem uma idéia bem básica sobre o assunto). O pessoal de Niterói tem uma página com um material (apostilas e planos de aula) muito bom para treinamento em BrOffice.org e Internet: http://www.telecentro.niteroi.rj.gov.br/ No site da professora Fátima Conti há bastante informação sobre BrOffice.org, Internet, Firefox e muitos outros aplicativos: http://www.ufpa.br/dicas/ Publiquei algumas dicas (cortar figuras, páginas em branco e outros) sobre BrOffice.org no meu blog: http://francival.wordpress.com/ (talvez possa aproveitar alguma coisa). Já ministrei alguns treinamentos de inclusão digital e sempre tento passar a idéia que todos os editores de texto, ou planilha, ou apresentação, ou navegadores, ou sistemas operacionais (sejam proprietários ou Livres) tem quase sempre a mesma forma de funcionamento. Portanto, muito do que eles aprendem no curso será utilizado em outros programas/sistemas/aplicativos/ferramentas que eles irão trabalhar em suas vidas profissionais, como por exemplo, salvar um arquivo; pesquisar e substituir; aumentar/diminuir/ uma fonte. Acho que é interessante que os alunos entendam que usamos um editor de textos para escrever um documento e que todos os editores de texto têm um comportamento muito parecido, logo se eles aprenderem bem o BrOffice.org, eles não terão grandes dificuldades para aprenderem MsOffice, GoogleDocs ou KOffice, pois as funcionalidades são bem parecidas.O mesmo vale para os sistemas operacionais e navegadores web. Em um projeto que participei recentemente alguns alunos conseguiram ter essa visão. Ensinamos o BrOffice.org. Depois de um tempo descobri o Google Docs e apenas mostrei para alguns. Eles aprenderam a trabalhar com o GoogleDocs sozinhos. Hoje fazem os seus trabalhos de aula nele. Detalhe: a maioria desses alunos não tem computadores em casa, além de serem de baixa renda. Não preciso nem dizer que fiquei muito orgulhoso deles :-D. É isso! Desculpa, se falei muito. Boa sorte no curso e inté + -- Francival Lima http://francival.wordpress.com 2009/3/27 Gabriel Molter gabriel.mol...@gmail.com Pois é pessoal, eu ser bem light com a garotada, baixei umas apostilas de open office e vou dar um re-estudada, sobre o linux quero ensinar mais na parte gráfica mesmo, pois assim não vai assunta-los tanto, e caso eles respondam bem ensino alguns comandos no terminal. Mas o ideal mesmo é eles saberem fazer planilhas e documentos de texto, o básico de escritório. Sobre internet um conceito geral para eles, e como eles podem utilizar navegador, favoritos, e-mails , downloads. (off: kero ensinar sobre temas e plugins para criar uma nova geração
[Ubuntu-BR] Res: Firewall iptables bloqueando web server interno
e aí thiago blz
estou mandando o log do meu apache (error.log)
[Thu Apr 02 10:22:55 2009] [notice] caught SIGWINCH, shutting down gracefully
[Thu Apr 02 10:23:05 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.5
with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations
qto a configuração so SELinux eu não realizei nenhuma configuração.
obrigado pela ajuda ...
PaulinhoLinux
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- Mensagem original
De: Thiago Silveira Alexandre thsa...@gmail.com
Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 1 de Abril de 2009 22:41:29
Assunto: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Firewall iptables bloqueando web server interno
você já olhou os logs de erro do apache?
de um tail -f no /var/log/apache2/error.log, tente acessar o site e cole
aqui a saida do log.
Outra coisa, como está configurado seu SELinux?
Se tiver enforce tem que criar uma police para liberar o apache, senao ele
não deixa acessar o site mesmo.
aguardo resposta
2009/4/1 PaulinhoLinux ph...@yahoo.com.br
E aí galera bl
estou com o seguinte problema, criei um script contendo regras com o
iptables e estou rodando ele no meu gateway. Este equipamento roda tbem o
squid e o MySAR para gerar relatórios dos acessos.
só que não estou conseguindo acessar o servidor web contido neste servidor.
Para que eu acesse o servidor web eu tenho que dar um stop (parar) o
firewall (ou seja limpar as regras e mudar a politica padão para accept),
qdo o firewall está rodando ao tentar acesso ao servidor web recebo a
seguinte mensagem:
ERRO
A URL solicitada não pode ser recuperada
O seguinte erro foi encontrado:
* Requisição inválida.
Já analisei as minhas regras e não consegui encontrar a origem do problema,
por favor preciso de ajuda.
Obrigado
PaulinhoLinux
OBS: Segue abaixo o meu script firewall
#!/bin/bash
firewall_start(){
EXTERNA=eth0
INTERNA=eth1
# Abre para a interface de loopback.
iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
# regra para permitir acesso a conectividade social - caixa
#iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d ! 200.201.174.0/24 -p tcp
--dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
# Liberar Conectividade Social para todos
# liberando acesso a toda a rede 200.201 e pode liberar sites alem da
CAIXA.
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 200.201.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 200.201.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT
# Filtros - DROP nos pacotes TCP indesejaveis
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j LOG --log-level
6 --log-prefix FIREWALL: NEW sem syn:
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP
# ACCEPT (libera) pacotes de retorno da internet
iptables -A INPUT -i ! $EXTERNA -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED,NEW -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED,NEW -j ACCEPT
# Fechando as portas do samba caso fique de cara para a internet.
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $EXTERNA --syn --dport 139 -j DROP
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $EXTERNA --syn --dport 138 -j DROP
# aceita conexoes vindas da rede interna com destino ao web server
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $INTERNA --syn --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
# NAT para os demais serviços que trabalham em outras portas
iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o $EXTERNA -j MASQUERADE
echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
# Libera acesso externo para ssh e servidor web
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -i $EXTERNA -j ACCEPT
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -i $INTERNA -j ACCEPT
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -i $EXTERNA -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -i $INTERNA -j ACCEPT
# REDIRECIONAR PARA O PROXY SQUID
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $INTERNA -s ! 192.168.10.2 -p tcp -m
multiport --dport 80,443 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080
firewall_start(){
# Ativa módulos
modprobe ip_tables
modprobe iptable_nat
modprobe ip_conntrack
modprobe ip_nat_ftp
modprobe ipt_REJECT
modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE
# Zera regras
iptables -F
iptables -X
iptables -t nat -F
iptables -t nat -X
# define a politica padrao
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -P OUTPUT DROP
}
}
firewall_stop(){
# Zera regras
iptables -F
iptables -X
iptables -t nat -F
iptables -X -t nat
iptables -F -t filter
iptables -X -t filter
# define a politica padrao
iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
}
case $1 in
start)
firewall_start
echo Firewall iniciando
sleep 2
echo ok
;;
stop)
firewall_stop
echo O firewall esta sendo desativado
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dispositivos USB
obs. nao é clone, é d'link Em Qui, 2009-04-02 às 09:25 -0400, Daniel Alves escreveu: Amigos, o fato do ubuntu detectar um dispositivo usb conectado nele (no meu caso uma placa rede wireless usb clone) significa que ele tem suporte pra ser instalado? Ele detecta normal e lista o nome exato do dispositivo. -- Daniel Alves Encarregado de Compras Fone (67) 3383-3311 Cel (67) 9277-0081 Cel (67) 9267-7202 -- Daniel Alves Encarregado de Compras Fone (67) 3383-3311 Cel (67) 9277-0081 Cel (67) 9267-7202 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Res: Firewall iptables bloqueando web server interno
e aí washington blz
essa regra está descomentada
# aceita conexoes vindas da rede interna com destino ao web server
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $INTERNA --syn --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
o que em teoria deveria permitir o acesso da minha rede interna ao servidor
web. Mas ele ainda não está acessível !
obrigado pela ajuda
PaulinhoLinux
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ser derrotado por eles é opcional.
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De: Washington Alves wae...@gmail.com
Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 1 de Abril de 2009 23:29:42
Assunto: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Firewall iptables bloqueando web server interno
Olá,
Verificando suas regras de firewall notei que a regra para acesso
ao servidor apache, que teoricamente esta rodando na porta 80, esta
comentada, experimente descomentar a linha que libera o acesso a porta
80 para ver se o problema é resolvido, ou, simplesmente, digite na
linha de comando iptables -A INPUT --dport 80 -j ACCEPT, esse comando
irá liberar o acesso na porta 80 para as redes interna e externa.
Atenciosamente,
Washington
2009/4/1 Thiago Silveira Alexandre thsa...@gmail.com:
você já olhou os logs de erro do apache?
de um tail -f no /var/log/apache2/error.log, tente acessar o site e cole
aqui a saida do log.
Outra coisa, como está configurado seu SELinux?
Se tiver enforce tem que criar uma police para liberar o apache, senao ele
não deixa acessar o site mesmo.
aguardo resposta
2009/4/1 PaulinhoLinux ph...@yahoo.com.br
E aí galera bl
estou com o seguinte problema, criei um script contendo regras com o
iptables e estou rodando ele no meu gateway. Este equipamento roda tbem o
squid e o MySAR para gerar relatórios dos acessos.
só que não estou conseguindo acessar o servidor web contido neste servidor.
Para que eu acesse o servidor web eu tenho que dar um stop (parar) o
firewall (ou seja limpar as regras e mudar a politica padão para accept),
qdo o firewall está rodando ao tentar acesso ao servidor web recebo a
seguinte mensagem:
ERRO
A URL solicitada não pode ser recuperada
O seguinte erro foi encontrado:
* Requisição inválida.
Já analisei as minhas regras e não consegui encontrar a origem do problema,
por favor preciso de ajuda.
Obrigado
PaulinhoLinux
OBS: Segue abaixo o meu script firewall
#!/bin/bash
firewall_start(){
EXTERNA=eth0
INTERNA=eth1
# Abre para a interface de loopback.
iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
# regra para permitir acesso a conectividade social - caixa
#iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d ! 200.201.174.0/24 -p tcp
--dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
# Liberar Conectividade Social para todos
# liberando acesso a toda a rede 200.201 e pode liberar sites alem da
CAIXA.
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 200.201.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 200.201.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT
# Filtros - DROP nos pacotes TCP indesejaveis
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j LOG --log-level
6 --log-prefix FIREWALL: NEW sem syn:
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP
# ACCEPT (libera) pacotes de retorno da internet
iptables -A INPUT -i ! $EXTERNA -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED,NEW -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED,NEW -j ACCEPT
# Fechando as portas do samba caso fique de cara para a internet.
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $EXTERNA --syn --dport 139 -j DROP
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $EXTERNA --syn --dport 138 -j DROP
# aceita conexoes vindas da rede interna com destino ao web server
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $INTERNA --syn --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
# NAT para os demais serviços que trabalham em outras portas
iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o $EXTERNA -j MASQUERADE
echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
# Libera acesso externo para ssh e servidor web
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -i $EXTERNA -j ACCEPT
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -i $INTERNA -j ACCEPT
#iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -i $EXTERNA -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -i $INTERNA -j ACCEPT
# REDIRECIONAR PARA O PROXY SQUID
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $INTERNA -s ! 192.168.10.2 -p tcp -m
multiport --dport 80,443 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080
firewall_start(){
# Ativa módulos
modprobe ip_tables
modprobe iptable_nat
modprobe ip_conntrack
modprobe ip_nat_ftp
modprobe ipt_REJECT
modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE
# Zera regras
iptables -F
iptables -X
iptables -t nat -F
iptables -t nat -X
# define a politica padrao
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Editor de paginas web
Olá a todos... 2009/4/2 Felipe Alexandre Ferreira felipeban...@gmail.com: Acho que praticamente todos os editores ali não são do tipo wysiwyg (what you see is what you get), que você pode editar sem ver o código como nvu, kompozer, dreamwaver... Não sei se entendi, mas vê ou não o código HTML é o que define se a ferramenta é wysiwyg? Creio que está havendo uma mudança sutil de conceito aqui. HTML é, por definição, linguagem de visualização de conteúdo. Neste aspecto ela É wysiwyg. Basta você apontar o seu navegador para o arquivo que você está editando e ficar dando F5 que você vai ver EXATAMENTE o que está editando. Na verdade melhor do que se você estivesse usando FrontPage ou Dreamweaver (nome correto da ferramenta). O fato de você colocar ou não um visualizador da página na ferramenta não aumenta ou diminui o fato de ela ser wysiwyg ou não. Ou já não sei o que é HTML ou qualquer coisa do tipo! Suponho que ele queira este tipo, porque era bem o foco do editor da antiga mozilla suite. Neste caso, o único que já vi além do kompozer e seus ancestrais, é o openoffice writer que também serve pra isso (arquivo, novo, documento html) Mas uma vez aqui tá acontecendo uma inversão de conceitos. O OpenOffice Writer NÃO é um editor de HTML: é um editor de texto que gera saída em HTML (convertendo o teu documento). Claro que eles acabam por incorporar algumas coisas de editores HTML, como o modo de visualização parecido com o do navegador etc. e o Amaya. Não gostei muito destas últimas opções, wysiwyg o kompozer ou nvu parece mais profissional, mas vale dar uma olhada. Não que não exista outro, mas na época que eu procurei foi o que encontrei. De fato o que as pessoas procuram NÃO É um editor HTML, mas um editor com um bocado de coisas prontas, tipo Botões, figuras JPG, navegação entre páginas, código Java Script etc. Usar o Dreamweaver, por exemplo, sem mexer no código HTMl/JavaScript não é NEM UM pouco profissional! Obs: Minhas considerações não são endereçadas ao Alexandre, são observações gerais. Ele acabou sendo o cara que colocou esse mesmo tipo de FUD muito comum nos sites de Windows e que vez por outra aparece por aqui. Se todo mundo passasse a usar o FrontPage sem olhar o código HTML, a MS simplesmente mudaria a linguagem em baixo para algo que só o IE lesse e o IIS processasse. Depois ela poderia colocar o que quisesse na linguagem e nas ferramentas e o Google ia pro saco. Daí a importância de se utilizar padrões abertos e que os VERDADEIROS profissionais SAIBAM o que estão fazendo! Obs OT: quer uma outra analogia? Há inúmeras ferramentas de VHDL no mercado (é um padrão), mas todas as grandes empresas do setor criam a sua ferramenta (e custam uma fortuna de ) e incorporam inúmeras características próprias (em geral criam Architectures e Process próprios, e mesmo sistemas inteiros como o NiOS). Claro que você pode fazer tudo sem os ajudantes da ferramenta, mas vais ter que codificar tudo em VHDL. Agora, se você usar qualquer coisa da ferramenta, fica ETERNAMENTE ligado à ela e ao fornecedor daquela tecnologia, de tal forma que, apesar de VHDL ser padrão, você não consegue gerar um código que seja gravado num Altera e num Xilinx conjuntamente - O mesmo acontece com o Dreamweaver e os códigos JavaScript prontos da Adobe/Macromedia. -- André Cavalcante Porto Alegre, RS. Ubuntu User number # 24370 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Dispositivos USB
Amigos, o fato do ubuntu detectar um dispositivo usb conectado nele (no meu caso uma placa rede wireless usb clone) significa que ele tem suporte pra ser instalado? Ele detecta normal e lista o nome exato do dispositivo. -- Daniel Alves Encarregado de Compras Fone (67) 3383-3311 Cel (67) 9277-0081 Cel (67) 9267-7202 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Domínio Público
Em Qui, 2009-04-02 às 08:27 -0300, Danilo Magrini escreveu: Não sei se a pergunta foi para mim, mas respondo sim, incluindo mp3!. Mas tenho que admitir que dar um SHIFT+DEL na minha pasta com a discografia do Bob Marley foi punk... mas fiz e hoje só tenho mp3 de CDs que eu tenho o original. O que eu acho mais engraçado é que o que causa espanto é a forma correta de agir. Veja o tom de espanto na pergunta: Alguém aqui tem 100% de software legalizados?? Inclusive mp3?? o.O sendo que o espanto deveria ser o contrário: Puxa!! Existe alguém que tem músicas roubadas em seu computador!!!??? Credo... Danilo, Isto vai rolar um monte de ditos pelos não ditos, se alguém realmente segue ao pé da letra todas as regras e leis, sem a intenção de ofensa, é um otário e está vivendo um sonho e não enxerga a realidade. Considero que honestos são aqueles que procuram sempre que possível agir de forma correta perante a sociedade embora cometam alguns deslizes porque sua concepção de correto conflita com as definições de mentira e verdade da sociedade em que vive. Desonestos são aqueles que, compulsivamente e propositalmente, desrespeitam todas as regras que lhe são impostas pela sociedade. Veja o caso dos livros: Nas universidades federais, acadêmicos pobres (sim, pobres mesmo) procuram com afinco estudar para mudar sua vida e de seus familiares, mas lhe são cobrados livros e materiais caríssimos sob pena de serem reprovados caso não os possua... é comum encontrarmos entre estes alunos cópias xerocadas dos livros em questão. Isto é errado realmente? Não teriam esses estudantes o direito à educação, reprimida pelos próprios educadores? Resumindo: As sociedades sempre foram erradas e refletem apenas as ambições dos que detém seu poder sobre as massas. Os direitos e deveres não são de domínio público e nem definidos como deveriam ser. Finalizando: Não sei porque cargas d'água o seu assunto original descambou para a complexidade das ciências antropológica, política e religiosa. Me desculpem se fiz parte disto, estou saindo deste tópico de fininho... -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LAMP
2009/4/2 Jean Pierre Jochen jeanjoc...@gmail.com Bom dia à todos, Instalei o Apache + MySql + PHP através do # apitude install apache2 mysql-server php5 realizei o teste do phpinfo() (http://localhost/info.php), e apareceu a página com as informações sobre o php e os módulos normal, quando copiei um projeto caseiro (http://localhost/projeto) ele carrega aquela página de off-line Tem alguma descrição mais detalhada do que seria este off-line? Pode ser mais claro no erro que está aparecendo? Já olhou os erros no log do apache? tem alguma configuração adicional a fazer? estou jogando os arquivos e dei permissão de escrita/leitura para # var/www -- ___ Jean Pierre Jochen === ICQ: 417.933.616 Linux User # 480201 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Humberto Xis http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Editor de paginas web
Falando em conceito... o WYSIWYG define a forma como o software permite trabalhar com o código, não o código em si. Por exemplo: o kompozer é WYSIWYG, já o Gedit não (para excrever HTML...). O conceito em questão é: no Kompozer, você estará escrevendo a página do mesmo jeito que o navegador exibirá. No Gedit, vc está escrevendo o código-fonte. Nesse caso, o navegador é um interpretador, então não conta como WYSIWYG... Espero ter conseguido explicar pra não confundir quem ainda não conhecia o conceito :) Apenas para fechar: WYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get (o que você vê, é o que você tem) E eu uso o kompozer para poder editar o texto sem ficar mexendo muito nas tags, mas depois de pronto vou pra parte de exibição do código e edito o que não concordo... O ajuste fino é feito no código, mas não tenho motivo pra escrever textos direto no código fonte, se o editor faz isso e me deixa alterar depois... MilhoXP I like to kompoze :) From: Andre Cavalcante andre.d.cavalca...@gmail.com To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:30:40 AM Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Editor de paginas web Olá a todos... 2009/4/2 Felipe Alexandre Ferreira felipeban...@gmail.com: Acho que praticamente todos os editores ali não são do tipo wysiwyg (what you see is what you get), que você pode editar sem ver o código como nvu, kompozer, dreamwaver... Não sei se entendi, mas vê ou não o código HTML é o que define se a ferramenta é wysiwyg? Creio que está havendo uma mudança sutil de conceito aqui. HTML é, por definição, linguagem de visualização de conteúdo. Neste aspecto ela É wysiwyg. Basta você apontar o seu navegador para o arquivo que você está editando e ficar dando F5 que você vai ver EXATAMENTE o que está editando. Na verdade melhor do que se você estivesse usando FrontPage ou Dreamweaver (nome correto da ferramenta). O fato de você colocar ou não um visualizador da página na ferramenta não aumenta ou diminui o fato de ela ser wysiwyg ou não. Ou já não sei o que é HTML ou qualquer coisa do tipo! Suponho que ele queira este tipo, porque era bem o foco do editor da antiga mozilla suite. Neste caso, o único que já vi além do kompozer e seus ancestrais, é o openoffice writer que também serve pra isso (arquivo, novo, documento html) Mas uma vez aqui tá acontecendo uma inversão de conceitos. O OpenOffice Writer NÃO é um editor de HTML: é um editor de texto que gera saída em HTML (convertendo o teu documento). Claro que eles acabam por incorporar algumas coisas de editores HTML, como o modo de visualização parecido com o do navegador etc. e o Amaya. Não gostei muito destas últimas opções, wysiwyg o kompozer ou nvu parece mais profissional, mas vale dar uma olhada. Não que não exista outro, mas na época que eu procurei foi o que encontrei. De fato o que as pessoas procuram NÃO É um editor HTML, mas um editor com um bocado de coisas prontas, tipo Botões, figuras JPG, navegação entre páginas, código Java Script etc. Usar o Dreamweaver, por exemplo, sem mexer no código HTMl/JavaScript não é NEM UM pouco profissional! Obs: Minhas considerações não são endereçadas ao Alexandre, são observações gerais. Ele acabou sendo o cara que colocou esse mesmo tipo de FUD muito comum nos sites de Windows e que vez por outra aparece por aqui. Se todo mundo passasse a usar o FrontPage sem olhar o código HTML, a MS simplesmente mudaria a linguagem em baixo para algo que só o IE lesse e o IIS processasse. Depois ela poderia colocar o que quisesse na linguagem e nas ferramentas e o Google ia pro saco. Daí a importância de se utilizar padrões abertos e que os VERDADEIROS profissionais SAIBAM o que estão fazendo! Obs OT: quer uma outra analogia? Há inúmeras ferramentas de VHDL no mercado (é um padrão), mas todas as grandes empresas do setor criam a sua ferramenta (e custam uma fortuna de ) e incorporam inúmeras características próprias (em geral criam Architectures e Process próprios, e mesmo sistemas inteiros como o NiOS). Claro que você pode fazer tudo sem os ajudantes da ferramenta, mas vais ter que codificar tudo em VHDL. Agora, se você usar qualquer coisa da ferramenta, fica ETERNAMENTE ligado à ela e ao fornecedor daquela tecnologia, de tal forma que, apesar de VHDL ser padrão, você não consegue gerar um código que seja gravado num Altera e num Xilinx conjuntamente - O mesmo acontece com o Dreamweaver e os códigos JavaScript prontos da Adobe/Macromedia. -- André Cavalcante Porto Alegre, RS. Ubuntu User number # 24370 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções:
