[lucid] linux-ec2 kernel 2.6.32-300.1 uploaded (ABI bump)

2009-12-01 Thread Andy Whitcroft
We have just uploaded a new Lucid linux-ec2 kernel.  This is the first
2.6.32 based EC2 kernel for Lucid.  It is based on the 2.6.32-5.6 linux
kernel.  Note the ABI bump:

https://www.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ec2/2.6.32-300.1

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Re: Simple question on directfb

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:43:49 +0530 Bhavani Shankar R bh...@ubuntu.com 
wrote:
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Hi list

I was looking at the merge of directfb [1] and I have a simple doubt

Debian has made their package compatible with dh 7 [2] in which case
is the dh_installchangelogs option necessary? or will dh 7 pick it up
through dh_auto_install/dh_install ?

Waiting for a reply

Regards

[1] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/directfb/1.2.7-2ubuntu1
[2]
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/directfb/directfb_1.2.8-5/changelog


My advice is test it and see what result you get.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Giving up the GIMP is a sign of Ubuntu's mainstream maturity - A rebuttal

2009-12-01 Thread Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Hardik Dalwadi hardik.dalw...@ubuntu.comwrote:


 Because, People are paying for pre-installed application, We are not
 asking about pre-installed application with OS, we are thinking as free,
 but not at all. We can say it as Window$ OEM OS by your machine
 provider. Miscrosoft doesn't have Antivirus / Professional Image Editor
 solution, but still we are getting pre-installed. That's one of reason
 behind popularity. I am sure if you find Desktop / Laptop with
 pre-installed Ubuntu, you will find GIMP :)

 --
 Hardik Dalwadi


Oh, is therea windows PC pre-installed with a Professional Image editor?
That would have been really great! Well that does depend on who is providing
a pre-installed computer also. On an average basis its 'okay' to remove GIMP
by default. Although, they did speak of a new section in Ubuntu Software
Center for 'staff picks', basically to enlighten the new users to the
popular softwares not shipped by default.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Giving up the GIMP is a sign of Ubuntu's mainstream maturity - A rebuttal

2009-12-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan 
ashutoshrish...@gmail.com wrote:



 Oh, is therea windows PC pre-installed with a Professional Image editor?
 That would have been really great! Well that does depend on who is providing
 a pre-installed computer also. On an average basis its 'okay' to remove GIMP
 by default. Although, they did speak of a new section in Ubuntu Software
 Center for 'staff picks', basically to enlighten the new users to the
 popular softwares not shipped by default.


 I wonder if any one of you have installed Ubuntu Studio - aha a pro version
of Ubuntu - so nice that it does not carry openoffice.org.  So now ubuntu is
classifying pros by not what they use but what they will not use.

I understand , appreciate and love forking - thats why we have such
diversity. So maybe we can let Ubuntu keep their 1 cd space norm and
continue dropping software - and we can just move to a fork which provides
us with much more - Linux Mint (Version 8 Helena is just released) Ultimate
etc etc.

And when we promote Ubuntu we no longer do so with the default CD but look
for a more complete one.

Am wondering - their dropping GIMP means that it will not appear on their
edubuntu cd either - what a way to non-impress people.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Meeting on 6 dec

2009-12-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Dear Arjun,

Hi

Am top posting my first few comments rest of the reply is below.

Welcome to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu India List.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Arjun Ghosh অর্জুন arjungh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Friends,
 this is my first mail to this list.
 I read that some of the members are planning to meet on 6 dec.
 We r a group of teachers from various colleges of delhi university. We
 want to take up a programme to encourager colleagues and students from
 the colleges of delhi to use ubuntu/ linux. We want to use our
 contacts among the faculty for this purpose. Is it possible to team
 up?


Its terrific that you and your colleagues are planning to encourage Linux /
Ubuntu.

The meeting on the 6th, is more an informal meet, however since enthusiasts
are coming :-) i am sure we can talk more about what you can do and who can
provide what kind of help.

@ Others coming for the 6th meet.

Do we have votes on which place
Dilli Haat will be noisy but a good place to eat :-)
so are we looking for a quiter place - if so how is Andhra Bhawan - which
too has decent food.

Also what time should we meet.
I prefer the afternoon - since we can then stretch into the evening - rather
than into the night.

regards
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Meeting on 6 dec

2009-12-01 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Arjun Ghosh অর্জুন arjungh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 this is my first mail to this list.
 I read that some of the members are planning to meet on 6 dec.
 We r a group of teachers from various colleges of delhi university. We
 want to take up a programme to encourager colleagues and students from
 the colleges of delhi to use ubuntu/ linux. We want to use our
 contacts among the faculty for this purpose. Is it possible to team
 up?
 Regards,
 Arjun
Sure .. It will be a great., there are number of person in Delhi who
are trying to make their best effort to make foss adaptation in school
and college -- (Example a recent workshop
http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/foss-workshop-report-kiit-college-29-oct-2009
)

@other
Keep meeting time = 3 Hr max
3pm to 6pm will be great
Plz decide = will it be meeting OR ( meeting + food )
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Re: [ubuntu-in] accessing ubuntu partition from windows

2009-12-01 Thread chavala kiran manohar
hi

the problem with explore2fs is that it is detecting the partition but i am
not able to mount/explore  it  is the same  with disk internals



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 LinkedIn
 

 Sumit Chakraborty requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
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 IPS,

 I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

 - Sumit

 Accept invitation from Sumit Chakraborty

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 i installed ubuntu through wubi.  i want to access some files from windows
 xp  i have tried some like explore2fs and diskinternals but nothing seems
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 can anyone tell me how to mount ubuntu partion on  windows

 do i need to give some write permissions in ubuntu  to do that
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  i installed ubuntu through wubi.? i want to access some files from
 windows
  xp? i have tried some like explore2fs and diskinternals but nothing seems
 to
  work.
 
 what is the problem with explore2fs ??

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 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
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 Am top posting because of the constant bombardment of unsolicited mails
 from
 stupid p2p / social networking sites and  through members of the list , who
 are stupid enough not to secure their accounts or insensitive enough to
 intentionally allow such things to happen.

 Am not sure what the average is but its atleast a couple of times a week. A
 suggestion is an automatic warning 

Re: [ubuntu-in] Giving up the GIMP is a sign of Ubuntu's mainstream maturity - A rebuttal

2009-12-01 Thread Dibyajyoti Mohapatra
I agree to Ram for the below point, GIMP must not be removed but only do not
agree with the comment that ubuntu is dumbed down version of Linux. The
fact is they always try to make ubuntu in a such way which will be
lightweight and flexible which first touches a newbie's mentality to try it
out. No other distribution is as NEAT as ubuntu. That's key reason why no
other Linux distribution could spread as ubuntu did. So ubuntu is smart in
its way :)

However softwares such as thunderbird, wvdial  GIMP should not be removed
and removing such packages has nothing to do with maturity. Maturity users
can customize their system in their own way anyways.

Also I believe that if ubuntu was available in CD as well as DVD versions,
it would be great. Now when I promote ubuntu to someone, I say you must
have a good internet connection for the first time set up. Giving out all
packages in DVD will provide more options at various scenarios. If I have a
good internet connection I'll download the CD quickly and if I don't have
then I'll find a DVD and taste it offline.

Finally I want to know whether discussing these topics here, are we reaching
ubuntu developers in any way? I am new to this mailing list and I don't know
whether they are included here.


--Dipu




On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 Some days back i had posted about some software being dropped from
 future releases of Ubuntu, and this included GIMP

 An article by Ryan Paul, who was present when the decision was taken
 to drop GIMP from 10.04 is linked here

 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/giving-up-the-gimp-is-a-sign-of-ubuntus-mainstream-maturity.ars

 I am angry, because if there is one software that i really look
 forward too then its GIMP. Everything else is replaceable and
 duplicable – not GIMP.

 What is below is a User's rebuttal to the Ubuntu Developers who are
 deciding to drop. (the number points are extracts from the article
 text which i have chosen to respond to)

 1. Dropping GIMP is a sign of “Ubuntu's growing maturity as a
 mainstream platform for regular users”

 So who are the regular users – I have been a user since Ubuntu's first
 version and GIMP has always been my favorite, even if not the most
 used software. It allowed me a feel of what all is possible, it
 allowed me to express my creativity such that no other software could,
 it allows me the happiness of knowing that my machine is running
 worldclass software and not some imitation. No other popular Ubuntu
 software comes close. And as a “mature” and “regular” user i need
 GIMP.

 Are we also to assume that , as we users mature, we should move to a
 distribution thats more advanced and that Ubuntu is essentially just a
 dumbed down beginners version.

 2. Its size footprint is especially problematic for Ubuntu,

 Yes GIMP is big, how big, synaptic says, gimp and gimp-data total to
 48.3 MB. I am sure that the developers can find a way to squeeze this
 on. Compression technology is fairly advanced and knoppix type
 Distributions pack far more than what Ubuntu manages for the same
 space so how about including mHowever lets look at their condition
 that the base install medium should be a CD. DVD's have become quite
 ubiquitous, prices of DVD's now are less than what CD's where at the
 time of the first Ubuntu distribution. So instead of dumping software
 i think Ubuntu should start providing more – like include more
 exciting stuff – celestia or stellarium, inscape, scribus, pdf tools,
 audacity, kompozer, etc etc. I am sure there are tonnes of stuff out
 there that can be included without detracting from the simple and
 friendly approach and even if they are not installed by defualt they
 are available to the user on the install medium.

 3. There is a clear need for a lighter editing program that will start
 faster and eschew features that are unnecessary for a majority of
 users.

 The replacement being offered is F-Spot – which the author says was
 redone in an hour and a half to fill the gap being left by GIMP. So we
 regular users now have to simply shift to F-spot because the UD's say
 so. How about first providing us with a trial and then letting us
 regular users decide if its worth it. F-spot has never been good
 enough in the first place and its inclusion over something like gthumb
 has always left me confused let alone as a replacement for GIMP.

 4. The removal of a niche professional graphics editing tool reflects
 Ubuntu's growing maturity as a mainstream platform for regular users.

 I wonder if the number of regular users of Ubuntu are less than the
 number of new users joining in. If so they maybe its time to figure
 out if its worth having a separate distribution for newcomers , who i
 think the developers think are dumb and not in a position to use gimp
 and for not so dumb regulars who slog very hard to make the base
 install of Ubuntu complete but installing a host of missing
 applications.


Re: [ubuntu-in] Giving up the GIMP is a sign of Ubuntu's mainstream maturity - A rebuttal

2009-12-01 Thread Shubhrajyoti Mohapatra
HI,

I am also agree with Ramanarayan.GIMP is really a powerful tool for photo
and graphics editing.The developers should try to minimize the space it
requires,but removing it is not a bright idea.Because it is difficult for a
person who does not have a broaband connection  to install softwares from
repositories.
Apu

I am using UBUNTU,r u still on windows...


On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 Some days back i had posted about some software being dropped from
 future releases of Ubuntu, and this included GIMP

 An article by Ryan Paul, who was present when the decision was taken
 to drop GIMP from 10.04 is linked here

 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/giving-up-the-gimp-is-a-sign-of-ubuntus-mainstream-maturity.ars

 I am angry, because if there is one software that i really look
 forward too then its GIMP. Everything else is replaceable and
 duplicable – not GIMP.

 What is below is a User's rebuttal to the Ubuntu Developers who are
 deciding to drop. (the number points are extracts from the article
 text which i have chosen to respond to)

 1. Dropping GIMP is a sign of “Ubuntu's growing maturity as a
 mainstream platform for regular users”

 So who are the regular users – I have been a user since Ubuntu's first
 version and GIMP has always been my favorite, even if not the most
 used software. It allowed me a feel of what all is possible, it
 allowed me to express my creativity such that no other software could,
 it allows me the happiness of knowing that my machine is running
 worldclass software and not some imitation. No other popular Ubuntu
 software comes close. And as a “mature” and “regular” user i need
 GIMP.

 Are we also to assume that , as we users mature, we should move to a
 distribution thats more advanced and that Ubuntu is essentially just a
 dumbed down beginners version.

 2. Its size footprint is especially problematic for Ubuntu,

 Yes GIMP is big, how big, synaptic says, gimp and gimp-data total to
 48.3 MB. I am sure that the developers can find a way to squeeze this
 on. Compression technology is fairly advanced and knoppix type
 Distributions pack far more than what Ubuntu manages for the same
 space so how about including mHowever lets look at their condition
 that the base install medium should be a CD. DVD's have become quite
 ubiquitous, prices of DVD's now are less than what CD's where at the
 time of the first Ubuntu distribution. So instead of dumping software
 i think Ubuntu should start providing more – like include more
 exciting stuff – celestia or stellarium, inscape, scribus, pdf tools,
 audacity, kompozer, etc etc. I am sure there are tonnes of stuff out
 there that can be included without detracting from the simple and
 friendly approach and even if they are not installed by defualt they
 are available to the user on the install medium.

 3. There is a clear need for a lighter editing program that will start
 faster and eschew features that are unnecessary for a majority of
 users.

 The replacement being offered is F-Spot – which the author says was
 redone in an hour and a half to fill the gap being left by GIMP. So we
 regular users now have to simply shift to F-spot because the UD's say
 so. How about first providing us with a trial and then letting us
 regular users decide if its worth it. F-spot has never been good
 enough in the first place and its inclusion over something like gthumb
 has always left me confused let alone as a replacement for GIMP.

 4. The removal of a niche professional graphics editing tool reflects
 Ubuntu's growing maturity as a mainstream platform for regular users.

 I wonder if the number of regular users of Ubuntu are less than the
 number of new users joining in. If so they maybe its time to figure
 out if its worth having a separate distribution for newcomers , who i
 think the developers think are dumb and not in a position to use gimp
 and for not so dumb regulars who slog very hard to make the base
 install of Ubuntu complete but installing a host of missing
 applications.

 As far are niche software goes – every thing about Ubuntu is niche

 - openoffice is a software used by office oriented
 professionals so drop this and replace it with a text editor or maybe
 some other scaled down lite version, after what do we need this slow
 to load and heavy application for. We can easily get it from the
 repository if need be.

 - Similarly dump evolution – afterall only a user whose used
 it before is going to use this, a new user won't even know about a
 mail client will they.

 - How about Firefox, the flag bearer of the open source
 initiative. This is definetely a niche product, since it makes up only
 25% of the installed browsers, thus i urge the Ubuntu Developers to
 give us something more light weight and less nichey, I hope they have
 something in mind. Firefox is too professional, heavy, slow and
 niched.

 - Finally Ubuntu 

Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Very imp and very useful info!(Pl. read till end)

2009-12-01 Thread Parthan SR
Shubhrajyoti Mohapatra wrote:

 Apu

 I am using UBUNTU,r u still on windows...

Urgh, spammer again. Making the life of the list admins tougher. Will 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Giving up the GIMP is a sign of Ubuntu's mainstream maturity - A rebuttal

2009-12-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Dibyajyoti Mohapatra
dib...@vubites.comwrote:

 only do not agree with the comment that ubuntu is dumbed down version of
 Linux.


Ubuntu without gimp is dumbed is what i wanted to say


 However softwares such as thunderbird, wvdial  GIMP should not be removed
 and removing such packages has nothing to do with maturity. Maturity users
 can customize their system in their own way anyways.

 totally agree

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Re: [ubuntu-in] broken installation

2009-12-01 Thread stranger in black.....
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Onkar Shinde onkarshi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop and once you don't have any broken
 packages, install ubuntu-desktop once again.

Ok fine it is just 29 kB in size. I want to cross check again is
there anything else to be removed along with this.



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Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Very imp and very useful info!(Pl. read till end)

2009-12-01 Thread Parthan SR
Shubhrajyoti Mohapatra wrote:
 Hii all,

 I am sorry for the hoax mail.Actually that was sent accidentally with 
 all of my contacts.But i have already apologized for that suddenly as 
 i came to know that I sent it.I replied my apology in the title��  
 Re: [ubuntu-in] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn as some person had 
 invited on linkedin.Mine was mistake and suddenly apologized so i 
 should be added to the mailing list again..
 Apu
 Use linux live free


 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Parthan SR 
 parth.technofr...@gmail.com mailto:parth.technofr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shubhrajyoti Mohapatra wrote:
 
  Apu
 
  I am using UBUNTU,r u still on windows...
 
 Urgh, spammer again. Making the life of the list admins tougher. Will
 pay the price.

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[ubuntu-in] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2009-12-01 Thread param thind
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IPS,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- param

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Have a question? param thind's network will probably have an answer:
You can use LinkedIn Answers to distribute your professional questions to param 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2009-12-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Okay, after more than a dozen mails discussing this linkedin and ips khurana
thingy i don't think the admins have a choice do they.

Vote for Banning this guy apologies be dammed.

ram

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM, param thind params...@gmail.com wrote:

   LinkedIn

 param thind requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:

 IPS,

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[ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 9.10 Release Party at Kanchipuram

2009-12-01 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends.

Last sunday, nov 29,2009, Kanchi Linux User Group celebrated Ubuntu
9.10 Release party.

Here is the event notes.

http://kanchilug.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/ubuntu-release-party-kanchilug-kanchipuram/

Here are the snaps.
http://picasaweb.google.com/tshrinivasan/KanchiLUGUbuntuReleaseParty#

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Very imp and very useful info!(Pl. read till end)

2009-12-01 Thread Jkhatri

On 12/01/2009 08:20 PM, Parthan SR wrote:

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[ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread javadayaz
Hi all,

Does any one know of a photo organizer in ubuntu which could upload to a web
app? The web app has to be password protected which i can give to various
people around the world and they in turn can upload their albums to this as
well.

ps i dont want to give out my google account password!!!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread Paul Roach
You can use f-spot to generate html pages that you can then drop on to
a web server running htpasswd/htaccess.


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:40 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Does any one know of a photo organizer in ubuntu which could upload to a web
 app? The web app has to be password protected which i can give to various
 people around the world and they in turn can upload their albums to this as
 well.
 ps i dont want to give out my google account password!!!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread James Thomas
F-SPot does

Select Pictures and click export

Many service providers available.

Cheers

JT

2009/12/1 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 Does any one know of a photo organizer in ubuntu which could upload to a
 web app? The web app has to be password protected which i can give to
 various people around the world and they in turn can upload their albums to
 this as well.

 ps i dont want to give out my google account password!!!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
 Hi all,

 Does any one know of a photo organizer in ubuntu which could upload to 
 a web app? The web app has to be password protected which i can give 
 to various people around the world and they in turn can upload their 
 albums to this as well. 

 ps i dont want to give out my google account password!!!

Well Picasa will, can't remember if you need to enter your password 
though, I believe you do.

Other than that, I have a feeling F-Spot support supports uploading to 
Flickr which is run by Yahoo.  From what I remember,  F-Spot opens a web 
browser which pops up with the Flickr site, you then enter your password 
(as you normally would) and then it somehow authenticates so then F-Spot 
can upload pictures to Flickr.  Not sure if it also supports Photo 
Bucket and Imageshack?

The advantage of F-Spot too is that it comes pre-installed on Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread javadayaz
i tried flicker but the uploading seems to be a bit too slow.

2009/12/1 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 javadayaz wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Does any one know of a photo organizer in ubuntu which could upload to
  a web app? The web app has to be password protected which i can give
  to various people around the world and they in turn can upload their
  albums to this as well.
 
  ps i dont want to give out my google account password!!!
 
 Well Picasa will, can't remember if you need to enter your password
 though, I believe you do.

 Other than that, I have a feeling F-Spot support supports uploading to
 Flickr which is run by Yahoo.  From what I remember,  F-Spot opens a web
 browser which pops up with the Flickr site, you then enter your password
 (as you normally would) and then it somehow authenticates so then F-Spot
 can upload pictures to Flickr.  Not sure if it also supports Photo
 Bucket and Imageshack?

 The advantage of F-Spot too is that it comes pre-installed on Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread javadayaz
yahoo supports flickr but for someone else to upload pictures to it, it
seems they would need my yahoo password!

2009/12/1 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 i tried flicker but the uploading seems to be a bit too slow.

 2009/12/1 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 javadayaz wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Does any one know of a photo organizer in ubuntu which could upload to
  a web app? The web app has to be password protected which i can give
  to various people around the world and they in turn can upload their
  albums to this as well.
 
  ps i dont want to give out my google account password!!!
 
 Well Picasa will, can't remember if you need to enter your password
 though, I believe you do.

 Other than that, I have a feeling F-Spot support supports uploading to
 Flickr which is run by Yahoo.  From what I remember,  F-Spot opens a web
 browser which pops up with the Flickr site, you then enter your password
 (as you normally would) and then it somehow authenticates so then F-Spot
 can upload pictures to Flickr.  Not sure if it also supports Photo
 Bucket and Imageshack?

 The advantage of F-Spot too is that it comes pre-installed on Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread Andrew Turner
2009/12/1 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 yahoo supports flickr but for someone else to upload pictures to it, it
 seems they would need my yahoo password!

Each of your friends/family/whatever can have their own Flickr account
to upload to, and then you can set Flickr up so you just share your
photos with each other, rather than being public.

HTH,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

2009-12-01 Thread javadayaz
makes sense.

2009/12/1 Andrew Turner acturne...@gmail.com

 2009/12/1 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  yahoo supports flickr but for someone else to upload pictures to it, it
  seems they would need my yahoo password!

 Each of your friends/family/whatever can have their own Flickr account
 to upload to, and then you can set Flickr up so you just share your
 photos with each other, rather than being public.

 HTH,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Blu-ray drive

2009-12-01 Thread Sean Miller
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD

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[ubuntu-uk] Struggling with GRUB 2 error

2009-12-01 Thread Kris Douglas
Hello everyone, I'm struggling with an installation of Ubuntu Karmic
on my netbook.

After an update, I switched my machine off and left it till the
morning, when I went to boot it up, it sat on loading grub.. for a
while, and then proceeded to display error: biosdisk read error and
then return me to a grub rescue CLI.

Ok I thought, and I went to try some of the recovery commands, which
didn't actually work, as in, not found, other than SET and LS. This
is screwing me over quite a bit, because disasembling the machine in
order to get the drive out it a pain, and I need it for work on a
daily basis, ideally I would like to get my files off there.

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Struggling with GRUB 2 error

2009-12-01 Thread Tony Pursell
On 1 Dec 2009 at 23:19, Kris Douglas wrote:

 
 Hello everyone, I'm struggling with an installation of Ubuntu Karmic
 on my netbook.
 
 After an update, I switched my machine off and left it till the
 morning, when I went to boot it up, it sat on loading grub.. for a
 while, and then proceeded to display error: biosdisk read error and
 then return me to a grub rescue CLI.
 
 Ok I thought, and I went to try some of the recovery commands, which
 didn't actually work, as in, not found, other than SET and LS. This
 is screwing me over quite a bit, because disasembling the machine in
 order to get the drive out it a pain, and I need it for work on a
 daily basis, ideally I would like to get my files off there.
 
To get files of...

Perhaps a couple of USB sticks - one with a version of Ubuntu to boot 
off (needs to be a recent version if you are using a ext4 file system on 
your hard drive) and another to copy the files on to.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Struggling with GRUB 2 error

2009-12-01 Thread Kris Douglas
2009/12/1 Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com:
 2009/12/1 Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk:
 On 1 Dec 2009 at 23:19, Kris Douglas wrote:


 Hello everyone, I'm struggling with an installation of Ubuntu Karmic
 on my netbook.

 After an update, I switched my machine off and left it till the
 morning, when I went to boot it up, it sat on loading grub.. for a
 while, and then proceeded to display error: biosdisk read error and
 then return me to a grub rescue CLI.

 Ok I thought, and I went to try some of the recovery commands, which
 didn't actually work, as in, not found, other than SET and LS. This
 is screwing me over quite a bit, because disasembling the machine in
 order to get the drive out it a pain, and I need it for work on a
 daily basis, ideally I would like to get my files off there.

 To get files of...

 Perhaps a couple of USB sticks - one with a version of Ubuntu to boot
 off (needs to be a recent version if you are using a ext4 file system on
 your hard drive) and another to copy the files on to.

 I've just tried that, it doesn't seem to want to boot the device, im
 watching it's progress, it seems to be moving along, but very very
 slowly. Im reading some ata1 device errors too.

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Right, Gnome has come online now, I've accessed the device with
gparted, and it seems to have identified the partitions in the search,
but it is sitting forever reading the stuff on /dev/sda (the device)
and other than that, it's made little visual progress.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Struggling with GRUB 2 error

2009-12-01 Thread Kris Douglas
2009/12/2 Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk:
 On 1 Dec 2009 at 23:51, Kris Douglas wrote:


 2009/12/1 Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com:
  2009/12/1 Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk:
  On 1 Dec 2009 at 23:19, Kris Douglas wrote:
 
 
  Hello everyone, I'm struggling with an installation of Ubuntu Karmic
  on my netbook.
 
  After an update, I switched my machine off and left it till the
  morning, when I went to boot it up, it sat on loading grub.. for a
  while, and then proceeded to display error: biosdisk read error and
  then return me to a grub rescue CLI.
 
  Ok I thought, and I went to try some of the recovery commands, which
  didn't actually work, as in, not found, other than SET and LS. This
  is screwing me over quite a bit, because disasembling the machine in
  order to get the drive out it a pain, and I need it for work on a
  daily basis, ideally I would like to get my files off there.
 
  To get files of...
 
  Perhaps a couple of USB sticks - one with a version of Ubuntu to boot
  off (needs to be a recent version if you are using a ext4 file system on
  your hard drive) and another to copy the files on to.
 
  I've just tried that, it doesn't seem to want to boot the device, im
  watching it's progress, it seems to be moving along, but very very
  slowly. Im reading some ata1 device errors too.
 
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 Right, Gnome has come online now, I've accessed the device with
 gparted, and it seems to have identified the partitions in the search,
 but it is sitting forever reading the stuff on /dev/sda (the device)
 and other than that, it's made little visual progress.


 You might find some help with the original grub problem at

 http://grub.enbug.org/Manual

 Tony

 PS I'm not an expert - just trying to help with what little knowledge I
 have!

I much appreciate your help, Tony :)

Furthermore, I think the drive is either dead or very corrupted, loads
of I/O errors, so I think it's the drive.



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Re: a question about the new ubuntu lynx

2009-12-01 Thread Arky
Hi Mike,

Haven't tried it yet. Decided to wait until few other packages are synced. 

Cheers

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From: mike kb8...@verizon.net
To: ubuntu ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Mon, 30 November, 2009 9:47:29 PM
Subject: a question about the new ubuntu lynx

Hi has anyone tried any of the live images for lynx yet? I was thinking about 
starting to work with it and wondered if sound is working yet or not. I hope 
this will be better than the last release. I have had constant problems with 
speech stoping.
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Re: a question about the new ubuntu lynx

2009-12-01 Thread Arky
Hi Mike,

Haven't tried it yet. Decided to wait until few other packages are synced. 

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From: mike kb8...@verizon.net
To: ubuntu ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Mon, 30 November, 2009 9:47:29 PM
Subject: a question about the new ubuntu lynx

Hi has anyone tried any of the live images for lynx yet? I was thinking about 
starting to work with it and wondered if sound is working yet or not. I hope 
this will be better than the last release. I have had constant problems with 
speech stoping.
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Orca Build with new pyatspi release

2009-12-01 Thread Arky
Hi, 

Orca builds on lucid fails with missing pyatspi module error.  This might be 
due to the newer pyatspi upstream release (1.29.2-0ubuntu1). Any workarounds / 
patches would be greatly appreciated. 


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Desktop Team 20091202 meeting minutes

2009-12-01 Thread Rick Spencer
Here are the minutes from the desktop team meeting. You can also find
them, the activity reports, and the irc log here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-12-01

== Present ==
=== Main Meeting ===
 * Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
 * Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
 * Bryce Harrington (bryce)
 * Chris Cheney (ccheney)
 * Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
 * Martin Pitt (pitti)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
 * Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
 * Alberto Milone (tseliot)

=== Eastern Edition ===
 * Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

== Apologies ==
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) - holiday
 * Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) - moving house

== Agenda ==
 * some manager announcements
  * Welcome tselliot
  * 1-1 calls
  * UNE and didrocks
  * receipts and robert_ancell's scanning app
 * Blueprints, work items, milestones, specs (pitti)
 * Ideas for speeding up desktop startup time (seb128)

== Actions from this meeting ==
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to track down robert's scanning tool
  * RESULT: It's in his PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/ppa
 * ACTION: seb128 to add initial work items to UNE session blueprint
  * RESULT: didrocks beat him to it:
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-unr-session
 * ACTION: robert_ancell to do seed changes for new games
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to confirm robert_ancell commitment to GDM/GDM
Greeter refactor
  * RESULT: Based on current OEM commitment, documenting the current API
is in scope for A2, rest of the work may be done post A2
 * ACTION: kenvandine to investigate improving startup time of Messaging
Menu and related tasks
 * ACTION: ricspencer3 to set up call with pitti, bryce, and tselliot to
get tselliot on board
 * ACTION: all to try robert_ancell's new scanning tool

== some manager announcements ==
 * Welcome back tselliot here on OEM team rotation
  * bryce will be his buddy
  * will work on xorg drivers and packaging gnome initially
 * weekly 1-1 calls: please set these up with me if they are not on your
calendar
 * UNE and didrocks: UNE will be moved to desktop team, and didrocks
will be the maintainer
 * receipts and robert_ancell's scanning app: expenses coming up, please
give robert's app a try and file bugs

== Blueprints, work items, milestones, specs (pitti) ==
pitti covered A2 targeted blueprints that had no work items, or
otherwise seems risky:
 * desktop-lucid-unr-session has no work items (fixed)
 * desktop-lucid-powermanagement-tweaks has no work items (Michael Frey
to draft his part)
 * regarding
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-xorg-halsectomy, 
bryce plans merging 1.7.1 from experimental this week
 * regarding
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-default-apps, need 
to seed two new games
 * regarding
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-social-from-the-start,
 seems there is too much in alpha 2 from this blueprint, some work items have 
since been moved out of A2
 * regarding
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-gdm-custom-greeter-support,
 robert_ancell is on OEM rotation for this release, so may not have time to 
complete these items
 * regarding
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-empathy-indicator, 
will be difficult to fit this in along with Social From the Start work, as 
kenvandine owns both pieces

rickspencer3 closed this part of the meeting by stressing that it is
better to pull work items in from A3 than to postpone them from A2, so
encourages team members to be reasonably conservative in their work item
targeting for A2.

== Ideas for speeding up desktop startup time (seb128) ==
seb128 led a session on improving load time for the desktop.
* budget for desktop load time is 4 seconds from GDM
* a current boot chart is available here:
http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/bootchart/seb128-dellmini-lucid-20091201-1.png
* with nautilus and xsession.d both not loaded at boot time, time is
still 8 seconds, so need to get back 4 seconds
* pitti is working on caching application data for application menu,
should buy some time
* other ideas for saving time were discussed, some at length. Example:
removing the desktop background image saves .5 seconds. xsplash takes .8
seconds
* Current plan is to remove many applets, and to load with only one
panel, and to use metacity rather than compiz by default

== Activity reports ==
=== Alberto Milone (tseliot) ===
 * foundations-lucid-boot-experience spec:
  * Write a Plymouth plugin which can replace Usplash features - In
progress
 * desktop-lucid-xorg-proprietary-drivers spec:
  * Start looking at the debian packages for nvidia for a first clean up
- TODO
 * desktop-lucid-touchscreen-handling spec
  * Identify one or more target touchscreen hardware platforms to focus
on - DONE
 * becoming core-dev - In progress:
  * recommendation from the MOTU council: DONE
  * approval from the Technical board: TODO

=== Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) ===
 * Blueprints:
  * desktop

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Non-Malicious Linux Malware?

2009-12-01 Thread Dale
Hi All,

I found this to bit of an interesting read:
http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/12/01/0025213/Ethics-of-Releasing-Non-Malicious-Linux-Malware

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Re: Non-Malicious Linux Malware?

2009-12-01 Thread Morgan Storey
Hi Dale and everyone else,

This isn't what I would typically call Malware, it could be repurposed into
injecting into a html stream that has a shell script in it, or it could be
snuck into a package, possibly if the maintainer is distracted which would
make it inline with the Malware name, but it is no more malware than me
sending you a zip containing a shell script you really need that has the old
rm -rf /* at the bottom, then telling you to chmod +x it and run it.
Personally I think the guy should realease it to at least a few Linux and
Boinc dev's as he may have stumbled upon a vulnerability if it can as he
says persist via cron. I am all for responsible disclosure.

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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Dale quail.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I found this to bit of an interesting read:

 http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/12/01/0025213/Ethics-of-Releasing-Non-Malicious-Linux-Malware

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Re: Summary of the the discussions on documentation translation at UDS

2009-12-01 Thread Matthew East
Hi,

2009/11/30 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
 We talked to Jim Campbell and decided to move the xubuntu-docs
 translations out of the Ubuntu distro series and to a separate project
 in Launchpad.

 This is due to the fact that the xubuntu-docs package is no longer in
 main, which is a requirement for translations to be there (and for
 templates to be updated upon package upload).

Is there any possibility of an exception to this requirement in
Launchpad? Obviously the translations are still there, they are just
not being updated, which seems a bit silly.

 The advantages in having translations in a separate branch will be
 mainly for maintainers: they will no longer have to worry about updating
 templates (they'll be updated in Launchpad upon commit) or exporting
 translations (they will be automatically commited to a branch daily) -
 this functionality is not yet available in source packages.

 The only disadvantage will be that the translations will not have as
 much visibility as they had inside the Ubuntu distro series in Launchpad
 before.

This seems to me to be quite a prominent disadvantage. Equally, from
translators' point of view, I think that it's very confusing to have
translations in different places and to have to look outside the
Ubuntu distribution in order to translate Ubuntu native source
packages. It's the same with other native Ubuntu projects - there
doesn't seem to be any consistent rule about whether such projects
should be translated as upstream projects or source packages.

Having said that, it's the translators who should take a decision
about this. The only thing that concerns me from a documentation team
point of view is consistency: I'm not very happy about a different
approach being taken to xubuntu-docs as to ubuntu-docs, kubuntu-docs
and edubuntu-docs. I think that we should standardise on a particular
approach, and adopt it. When I last asked about whether it would be
appropriate to move ubuntu-docs translation to a Launchpad project to
take advantage of the automatic import/export features, from memory I
recall that the answer was no because of the confusion caused by
having translations in different places in Launchpad.

(Incidentally, it seems to me that if translation moves to the project
space rather than the package space, renaming the templates is no
longer necessary.)

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Re: Summary of the the discussions on documentation translation at UDS

2009-12-01 Thread David Planella
Hi Matthew,

El dt 01 de 12 de 2009 a les 08:24 +, en/na Matthew East va
escriure:
 Hi,
 
 2009/11/30 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
  We talked to Jim Campbell and decided to move the xubuntu-docs
  translations out of the Ubuntu distro series and to a separate project
  in Launchpad.
 
  This is due to the fact that the xubuntu-docs package is no longer in
  main, which is a requirement for translations to be there (and for
  templates to be updated upon package upload).
 
 Is there any possibility of an exception to this requirement in
 Launchpad? Obviously the translations are still there, they are just
 not being updated, which seems a bit silly.
 

As far as I know, not without changes to the pkgbinarymangler package.
When packages are uploaded to the archive and these packages are in
main, their translations and templates are extracted and imported to
Launchpad by pkgbinarymangler [1].

(I'm CC'ing Martin as the maintainer of pkgbinarymangler, in case he
wants to comment on this. Martin: to give you some context this is about
the question whether -for the sake of consistency and visibility- it
would be possible to add an exception for xubuntu-docs in
pkgbinarymangler to have its translations stripped and imported into
Launchpad, even though it is a universe package.)

The main problem with xubuntu-docs being in universe is the update of
templates in Launchpad, which no longer happens automatically when
uploading a new package.

Now since the templates are already in Launchpad (from the time when
xubuntu-docs were in main), another alternative would be to manually
upload the templates whenever they change. This could be done by the
Rosetta admins or the members of the Ubuntu Translations Coordinators
team, but I think it wouldn't be too good to add an additional manual
step to the process. Still, I'd like to hear what the translations team
and the xubuntu-docs maintainers think of this.

  The advantages in having translations in a separate branch will be
  mainly for maintainers: they will no longer have to worry about updating
  templates (they'll be updated in Launchpad upon commit) or exporting
  translations (they will be automatically commited to a branch daily) -
  this functionality is not yet available in source packages.
 
  The only disadvantage will be that the translations will not have as
  much visibility as they had inside the Ubuntu distro series in Launchpad
  before.
 
 This seems to me to be quite a prominent disadvantage. Equally, from
 translators' point of view, I think that it's very confusing to have
 translations in different places and to have to look outside the
 Ubuntu distribution in order to translate Ubuntu native source
 packages.

It is, but in the particular case of Xubuntu none of its packages can be
translated in the Ubuntu distribution in Launchpad. Ideally, all
packages regardless of the repository they are in should be translatable
there. In fact, we also talked about whether we should consider enabling
universe translations at UDS, but we decided to defer the discussion
until Lucid + 1, as there should be a proper spec for this and as it
would be interesting to see how the upstream integration in Launchpad
Translations shapes up first.

  It's the same with other native Ubuntu projects - there
 doesn't seem to be any consistent rule about whether such projects
 should be translated as upstream projects or source packages.
 

I also acknowledge that, but with the current functionality this is left
to the maintainer: some enable only translations for the Ubuntu source
package and consistently export and commit those in the Launchpad
project, whereas others have translations enabled both in the project
and in the Ubuntu source package. In this latter case often translators
translate it in one of the two places and make use of global suggestions
to translate it in the other, or export and upload the PO file there.
This obviously requires extra work. Message sharing between projects and
source packages might solve this in the future - the Rosetta developers
can tell more on if and when this will be implemented.

 Having said that, it's the translators who should take a decision
 about this. The only thing that concerns me from a documentation team
 point of view is consistency: I'm not very happy about a different
 approach being taken to xubuntu-docs as to ubuntu-docs, kubuntu-docs
 and edubuntu-docs. I think that we should standardise on a particular
 approach, and adopt it.

It's the current infrastructure which limits us here, due to the fact
that xubuntu-docs is in universe and the way universe translations are
handled. I'd be happy to reconsider the move to a separate project if
there is a viable alternative to upload new xubuntu-docs templates in
Launchpad, so I propose to wait until next week for more feedback before
making the final decision.

  When I last asked about whether it would be
 appropriate to move ubuntu-docs translation to a 

Re: Summary of the the discussions on documentation translation at UDS

2009-12-01 Thread Adi Roiban
În data de Ma, 01-12-2009 la 08:24 +, Matthew East a scris:
 Hi,
 
 2009/11/30 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
  We talked to Jim Campbell and decided to move the xubuntu-docs
  translations out of the Ubuntu distro series and to a separate project
  in Launchpad.
 
  This is due to the fact that the xubuntu-docs package is no longer in
  main, which is a requirement for translations to be there (and for
  templates to be updated upon package upload).
 
 Is there any possibility of an exception to this requirement in
 Launchpad? Obviously the translations are still there, they are just
 not being updated, which seems a bit silly.

If xubuntu-docs package is well maintained, there is no reason not to
have xubuntu-docs in main.

  The advantages in having translations in a separate branch will be
  mainly for maintainers: they will no longer have to worry about updating
  templates (they'll be updated in Launchpad upon commit) or exporting
  translations (they will be automatically commited to a branch daily) -
  this functionality is not yet available in source packages.
 
  The only disadvantage will be that the translations will not have as
  much visibility as they had inside the Ubuntu distro series in Launchpad
  before.
 
 This seems to me to be quite a prominent disadvantage. Equally, from
 translators' point of view, I think that it's very confusing to have
 translations in different places and to have to look outside the
 Ubuntu distribution in order to translate Ubuntu native source
 packages. It's the same with other native Ubuntu projects - there
 doesn't seem to be any consistent rule about whether such projects
 should be translated as upstream projects or source packages.
 
 Having said that, it's the translators who should take a decision
 about this. The only thing that concerns me from a documentation team
 point of view is consistency: I'm not very happy about a different
 approach being taken to xubuntu-docs as to ubuntu-docs, kubuntu-docs
 and edubuntu-docs. I think that we should standardise on a particular
 approach, and adopt it. When I last asked about whether it would be
 appropriate to move ubuntu-docs translation to a Launchpad project to
 take advantage of the automatic import/export features, from memory I
 recall that the answer was no because of the confusion caused by
 having translations in different places in Launchpad.

From my point of view, in an ideal word, xubuntu-docs should be
translated alongside the other docs.

At least in the last year the xubuntu-docs were not updated and there
were no translated html files was shipped with xubuntu-docs.
This can be very disappointing for translators as their work is not
used.

I have talked with Jim Campbell and told me he will rework the current
xubuntu-docs and that the new version of xubuntu-docs will be based on
the latest ubuntu-docs.

I think that we can start building the translations infrastructure in
xubuntu-docs project and if everthing is ok we can move them to Ubuntu.

For Lucid, Ubuntu translations will only be opened at the end of
February. Having xubuntu-docs translations in a separate project will
alow us to see and test the translation prior to that date.

Also in Ubuntu, you need special permission to download all translations
from xubuntu-docs in a single click.

Since there are no plans to use the current xubuntu-docs translations
templates from Jaunty, Karmic and Lucid, I think hiding them is a
reasonable action. 

 (Incidentally, it seems to me that if translation moves to the project
 space rather than the package space, renaming the templates is no
 longer necessary.)
No need to rename xubuntu-docs if they are hosted in a different
project.

Since we are going to see a new beginning for xubuntu-doc, having
translations in a dedicated project will give us greater flexibility in
handling them, as we will not be stuck with the Ubuntu process.

As soon as xubuntu-docs translations are well maintained, there is no
reason no to have them alongside ubuntu-docs translations.

Cheers

PS: Maybe we can have a quick chat tomorrow, during the Ubuntu
Translations monthly meeting.

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Announcing the Next Ubuntu Hug Day! - Thursday 03 December 2009

2009-12-01 Thread Kamus
Announcing the Next Ubuntu Bug Day! - Thursday 03 December 2009

Fellow Ubuntu Triagers!

This week's Bug Day target is *drum roll please* Ubuntu Translations!
 * 7 New bugs need a hug
 * 14 Incomplete bugs need a status check
 * 71 Confirmed bugs need a review

Bookmark it, add it to your calendars, turn over those egg-timers!
 * Thursday 03 December 2009
 * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20091203

Are you looking for a way to start giving some love back to your
adorable Ubuntu Project?
Did you ever wonder what Triage is? Want to learn about that?
This is a perfect time!, Everybody can help in a Bug Day!
open your IRC Client and go to #ubuntu-bugs (FreeNode)
the BugSquad will be happy to help you to start contributing!

Wanna be famous? Is easy! remember to use 5-A-day so if you do a good
work your name could be listed at the top 5-A-Day Contributors in the
Ubuntu Hall of Fame page!

We are always looking for new tasks or ideas for the Bug Days, if you have one
add it to the Planning page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning

If you're new to all this (like me), head to
 http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs

Have a nice day,
   Kamus
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Re: Summary of the the discussions on documentation translation at UDS

2009-12-01 Thread Jim Campbell
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Adi Roiban a...@roiban.ro wrote:

 În data de Ma, 01-12-2009 la 08:24 +, Matthew East a scris:
  Hi,
 
  2009/11/30 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
   We talked to Jim Campbell and decided to move the xubuntu-docs
   translations out of the Ubuntu distro series and to a separate project
   in Launchpad.
  
   This is due to the fact that the xubuntu-docs package is no longer in
   main, which is a requirement for translations to be there (and for
   templates to be updated upon package upload).
 
  Is there any possibility of an exception to this requirement in
  Launchpad? Obviously the translations are still there, they are just
  not being updated, which seems a bit silly.

 If xubuntu-docs package is well maintained, there is no reason not to
 have xubuntu-docs in main.


I think xubuntu-docs are in universe because the Xubuntu distribution (and
all Xfce packages) are in universe.

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Re: Announcing the Next Ubuntu Hug Day! - Thursday 03 December 2009

2009-12-01 Thread David Planella
Hi all,

Following a proposal from some days ago, I'm pleased to anounce the
confirmation that the next Hug Day will be on translations, this
Thursday the 3rd of December.

A Hug Day is a special day where the Ubuntu Community comes together
with a shared goal of triaging a specific package or set of packages.
Working together allows us to share knowledge and give some much needed
assistance to the Ubuntu Developers.

How can you participate?

  * Simply join the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel on Freenode on Thursday
the 3rd of December and the folks there will help you get
started 
  * Check out the page for organizing the Hug Day:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20091203
  * You can also get more information on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay

How can you help with translations bugs?

You don't have to wait for a Hug Day to help with Ubuntu Translations
bugs, you can contribute any day!

Here are a couple of things you can help with:

  * Triaging the existing bugs at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations
  * Subscribing to Ubuntu Translations bugmail:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+subscribe

You can also see the original Hug Day announcement here [1] (with CC on
this list as well).

We'll see you there!

Regards,
David

[1]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2009-December/001662.html

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Am Samstag, den 21.11.2009, 11:34 +0100 schrieb Sense Hofstede:
 Hello,
 
 I would like to propose to held a BugDay for language packs.
 Localisation is an important part of Ubuntu and many users wouldn't
 even be able to use it without the translations. Therefore it is
 important that the language packages and the translations are in good
 shape.
 Holding a BugDay about language packs would be a good way to do this.
 Since there are usually not that many bugs reported against the
 language packs, it makes sense to have one BugDay for all.
 
 I've added the idea to the proposed planning on
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning (which probably needs to
 be updated, Nautilus' BugDay has already passed).
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 Sense Hofstede
 /ˈsen.sɜː ˈhɒf.steɪdɜː/
 

Hi Sense,

I cannot agree more on this. The translations team already started
running a Kubuntu Translations Day last cycle, which was essentially a
hug day targeted to Kubuntu translations. However, it might make sense
to make it more general and make translations a more or less regular
target for Hug Days.

Regarding the proposal on language packs, just a couple of notes:

  * Ubuntu Translations project. We generally do not (or encourage
to) report bugs on language packs, unless a bug affects a
particular one of them. We report all translations-related bugs
against the ubuntu-translations project in Launchpad, which
would be a better target for the Hug Day:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/

  * Reporting translation bugs. Some time ago, a member of the
translation team added general instructions on how to report
translation bugs to the ReportingBugs page at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%
20translation%20bugs. This has worked well so far in terms of
filed reports, but I'd like to ask the bugsquad whether you
think that is appropriate and to review the text we used, since
that page is very visible to users.

  * Date. You were proposing the 26th Nov (in two days time), but
since it has been a very hectic period coming from UDS, I'd
rather propose it for the Thursday of the coming week (3rd Dec),
so that there is time for the announcement as well - I could
imagine that some translators would be interested in
participating. I went ahead and changed the proposed date - let
me know what you think.

That's all, I'll be looking forward to your comments and thanks for your
interest on translations!

Regards,
David.

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Re: Summary of the the discussions on documentation translation at UDS

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Pitt
David Planella [2009-12-01 14:18 +0100]:
 (I'm CC'ing Martin as the maintainer of pkgbinarymangler, in case he
 wants to comment on this. Martin: to give you some context this is about
 the question whether -for the sake of consistency and visibility- it
 would be possible to add an exception for xubuntu-docs in
 pkgbinarymangler to have its translations stripped and imported into
 Launchpad, even though it is a universe package.)

That can be done easily, of course. I had rather expected that
Launchpad wouldn't allow this?

The translations.tar.gz is created and uploaded to Rosetta either way,
the only thing that doesn't happen for universe packages is the
stripping. So if you sorted out the LP side, please poke me, and
I'll upload the exception.

 Yes, I think with the current infrastructure it still makes sense to
 have edu/k/ubuntu-docs in the source package translation space.

Would certainly be nice, indeed.

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Re: Replacing Creox with Rakarrack in Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-01 Thread teza
Hi Olivier, guitarix is great, I've been in touch with Hermann, because
I think it could better; It could actually become the Studio Devil of
the free software,with a better graphique interface looking more like an
amp, build with presets, a noise gate..
Regards
Teza

..
Salut Olivier, avec Laurent avons beaucoup parler de linux Mao pendant
l'Ubuntu Party de Paris, ou j'ai fait des démos live de Racarrack et
Guitarix et je peux te dire que les personnes venues voir ont été plus
qu'impréssionnées par la qualité du son des deux softs. Il y a quelque
temps j'ai contacter Hermann le developpeur de Guitarix à propos de
quels idées pour Guitarix, si j'ai bien compris il ne serait pas contre
le fait d'améliorer le design de l'interface mais il lui faudrait un
codeur. Je lui avait proposer d'inclure des presets du genre, son hard,
heavy, blues, crunch etc et ça a l'air de le brancher. Si on vas plus
loin meme Racarrack pourrait etre plus beau, surtout s'il est inclus
prochainement dans Ubuntu Studio. Ces deux softs sont très puissants et
méritent toutes notre attention.
Amts
Teza  


Le lundi 30 novembre 2009 à 16:08 +0100, humbert.olivie...@free.fr a
écrit :
  Please share your thoughts.
 
 Hi,
 Do you think about Guitarix ?
 http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/
 
 Regards,
 Olivier ( http://www.linuxmao.org )
 



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Alternatives to using JACK

2009-12-01 Thread lrspares45
Hi all,
is there an alternative way to record guitar on Ubuntu that doesn't rely
on JACK? I ask as I've spent two weeks trying to get JACK based apps
running, and though I've managed to get it working twice, the next time
I start the computer I effectively have to start all over again. This is
no good for public performance!



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Re: Alternatives to using JACK

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Reisor
Audacity can work in a non-Jack mode and it's an excellent piece of
software.  But without Jack, you're seriously limiting yourself since
most developers are going to want to use Jack when developing new and
existing projects.

Perhaps a better (albeit more difficult) option would be to work out
your problems with regards to getting Jack working on your system.
Build your system, get it working, and write down each step you took.
Then tear down your system, build it again, and apply your steps.

If you can get the process broken down into some kind of checklist,
then you can most likely automate it with a Bash script or something.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, lrspares45 lrspare...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 is there an alternative way to record guitar on Ubuntu that doesn't rely
 on JACK? I ask as I've spent two weeks trying to get JACK based apps
 running, and though I've managed to get it working twice, the next time
 I start the computer I effectively have to start all over again. This is
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Re: Replacing Creox with Rakarrack in Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-01 Thread sdavmor
laurent.bellegarde wrote:
 Scott Lavender a écrit :
 The Ubuntu Studio developers are considering replacing Creox with
 Rakarrack as a default application in Ubuntu Studio.

 Creox hasn't had any development in years while Rakarrack has seen
 development up through this year.

 Please share your thoughts.
 Hi Scott,
 
 Great idea, Teza help me this week-end in Paris during Ubuntu Party to 
 show what UBS and racarrack was able to do, and many musician's visitors 
 were very suprised by UBS powerfull features... Go on !
 
 Laurent,
 lprod.org, France

+1 on making the move to Rakarrack.
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Re: Alternatives to using JACK

2009-12-01 Thread lrspares45
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 08:49 -0800, Chris Reisor wrote:
 Audacity can work in a non-Jack mode and it's an excellent piece of
 software.  But without Jack, you're seriously limiting yourself since
 most developers are going to want to use Jack when developing new and
 existing projects.
 
 Perhaps a better (albeit more difficult) option would be to work out
 your problems with regards to getting Jack working on your system.
 Build your system, get it working, and write down each step you took.
 Then tear down your system, build it again, and apply your steps.
 
 If you can get the process broken down into some kind of checklist,
 then you can most likely automate it with a Bash script or something.

Believe me, after two weeks I've tried every possible combination of
fixes off the web, in every order, I've uninstalled and re-installed
Studio, re-installed the RT kernel etc etc! I even re-set the sound card
by running Windows 7 (which actually worked for about 1 minute, but not
at all with Jack-Rack).

I started off with Audacity, which is very nice, which led me to the
exciting world of JACK. I'll stick with that until JACK is sorted out I
think!

 
 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, lrspares45 lrspare...@aol.com wrote:
  Hi all,
  is there an alternative way to record guitar on Ubuntu that doesn't rely
  on JACK? I ask as I've spent two weeks trying to get JACK based apps
  running, and though I've managed to get it working twice, the next time
  I start the computer I effectively have to start all over again. This is
  no good for public performance!
 
 
 
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Re: Alternatives to using JACK

2009-12-01 Thread stereoplegic
Try installing the standard Ubuntu kernel. I've had issues w/ the RT
kernel since 8.10. Jack works fine for me w/o the RT kernel (YMMV, I'm
running w/ 3GB of RAM).

On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:32 +, lrspares45 wrote:

 On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 08:49 -0800, Chris Reisor wrote:
  Audacity can work in a non-Jack mode and it's an excellent piece of
  software.  But without Jack, you're seriously limiting yourself since
  most developers are going to want to use Jack when developing new and
  existing projects.
  
  Perhaps a better (albeit more difficult) option would be to work out
  your problems with regards to getting Jack working on your system.
  Build your system, get it working, and write down each step you took.
  Then tear down your system, build it again, and apply your steps.
  
  If you can get the process broken down into some kind of checklist,
  then you can most likely automate it with a Bash script or something.
 
 Believe me, after two weeks I've tried every possible combination of
 fixes off the web, in every order, I've uninstalled and re-installed
 Studio, re-installed the RT kernel etc etc! I even re-set the sound card
 by running Windows 7 (which actually worked for about 1 minute, but not
 at all with Jack-Rack).
 
 I started off with Audacity, which is very nice, which led me to the
 exciting world of JACK. I'll stick with that until JACK is sorted out I
 think!
 
  
  On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, lrspares45 lrspare...@aol.com wrote:
   Hi all,
   is there an alternative way to record guitar on Ubuntu that doesn't rely
   on JACK? I ask as I've spent two weeks trying to get JACK based apps
   running, and though I've managed to get it working twice, the next time
   I start the computer I effectively have to start all over again. This is
   no good for public performance!
  
  
  
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Re: Alternatives to using JACK

2009-12-01 Thread Mac McIlvaine
At Tuesday, 1 December 2009, you wrote:

Audacity can work in a non-Jack mode and it's an excellent piece of
software.  But without Jack, you're seriously limiting yourself since
most developers are going to want to use Jack when developing new and
existing projects.

Perhaps a better (albeit more difficult) option would be to work out
your problems with regards to getting Jack working on your system.
Build your system, get it working, and write down each step you took.
Then tear down your system, build it again, and apply your steps.

If you can get the process broken down into some kind of checklist,
then you can most likely automate it with a Bash script or something.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, lrspares45 lrspare...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 is there an alternative way to record guitar on Ubuntu that doesn't 
rely
 on JACK? I ask as I've spent two weeks trying to get JACK based apps
 running, and though I've managed to get it working twice, the 
next time
 I start the computer I effectively have to start all over again.
This is
 no good for public performance!


But why are the settings not sticky?

They certainly are on the 3 systems I've built.

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Re: Alternatives to using JACK

2009-12-01 Thread lrspares45
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:58 -0600, stereoplegic wrote:
 Try installing the standard Ubuntu kernel. I've had issues w/ the RT
 kernel since 8.10. Jack works fine for me w/o the RT kernel (YMMV, I'm
 running w/ 3GB of RAM).
 
Well I'll be buggered sideways! It works perfectly! You are an absolute
star... thank you.


 On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:32 +, lrspares45 wrote: 
  On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 08:49 -0800, Chris Reisor wrote:
   Audacity can work in a non-Jack mode and it's an excellent piece of
   software.  But without Jack, you're seriously limiting yourself since
   most developers are going to want to use Jack when developing new and
   existing projects.
   
   Perhaps a better (albeit more difficult) option would be to work out
   your problems with regards to getting Jack working on your system.
   Build your system, get it working, and write down each step you took.
   Then tear down your system, build it again, and apply your steps.
   
   If you can get the process broken down into some kind of checklist,
   then you can most likely automate it with a Bash script or something.
  
  Believe me, after two weeks I've tried every possible combination of
  fixes off the web, in every order, I've uninstalled and re-installed
  Studio, re-installed the RT kernel etc etc! I even re-set the sound card
  by running Windows 7 (which actually worked for about 1 minute, but not
  at all with Jack-Rack).
  
  I started off with Audacity, which is very nice, which led me to the
  exciting world of JACK. I'll stick with that until JACK is sorted out I
  think!
  
   
   On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, lrspares45 lrspare...@aol.com wrote:
Hi all,
is there an alternative way to record guitar on Ubuntu that doesn't rely
on JACK? I ask as I've spent two weeks trying to get JACK based apps
running, and though I've managed to get it working twice, the next time
I start the computer I effectively have to start all over again. This is
no good for public performance!
   
   
   
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Re: [உபுண்டு பயனர ்]celebrated ubuntu 9.10 release p arty in kanchipuram, successfully

2009-12-01 Thread தங்கமணி அருண்
மிக்க சந்தோஷம். இது போன்ற நிகழ்ச்சி தொடர்ந்து நடத்திட குழுமத்தின் சார்பாக
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[ubuntu-ec] RadioTR0N

2009-12-01 Thread Pedro Franco
Reenviado de Octavio Rossell

Saludos a todas y todos en la comunidad del Software Libre de Venezuela
y la América Latina.

El presente correo es para informar e invitar al lanzamiento de
RadioTR0N, un programa de radio en Internet dedicado exclusivamente a la
difusión y articulación del Software Libre en nuestro continente,
transmitido por RadioÑÚ http://radiognu.org.

El lanzamiento oficial del programa se llevará a cabo este miércoles 2
de diciembre a las 4:00pm (VET) y se tiene planeado realizarlo todos los
miércoles oficial y periódicamente, aunque entre semanas habrán
transmisiones continuamente, de las cuales se informará en la página y
por el chat del proyecto. El programa comenzará a las 4:00pm (VET) y
como es usual continuará hasta que el cuerpo aguante y mientras haya
gente participando por el chat.

En este correo se adjunta una imagen para difundirla en los canales de
comunicación regulares: listas de correos, páginas web, planetas,
mensajería instantánea, etc. Están en varios tamaños y formatos y
sabremos agradecer el apoyo para difundir este tipo de iniciativas.
Asimismo, reenviando este correo a tus amigos cercanos podrás colaborar
en la difusión de RadioÑÚ.

Cualquier persona que desee transmitir un programa por RadioÑÚ puede
sentirse invitado a hacerlo. Sólo dos condiciones se exigen: 1.- que el
tema gire alrededor del Software Libre o de cualquier manifestación
científica o cultural que promueva la libertad del conocimiento, y 2.-
que no se ponga reguetón, pues ya hay bastantes radios que ponen eso y
son más que suficientes por lo que queda de civilización humana.

Desde Proyecto GNU de Venezuela (http://www.gnu.org.ve) hacemos la
invitación para formar parte de RadioÑÚ, ya sea escuchando y
participando en sus programas transmitidos, como también participar de
cualquier forma en la cual haya simpatía y disposición para unirse al
proyecto de tener otro buen espacio para promover los valores del
Software Libre.

Están todos invitados a http://radiognu.org

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[ubuntu-ec] Foro Xubuntu en Español

2009-12-01 Thread Pedro Franco
Saludos lista, les informo que ya contamos con un foro en español para
los
usuarios de Xubuntu, la direccion es:
http://xubuntu.informe.com


Saludos
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[Tradutores-Ubuntu] Ubuntu Member

2009-12-01 Thread Fran Dieguez
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Bueno rapaces,

que dende fai media hora (ou así) son un Ubuntu Member co que terei unha
relación máis directa con Ubuntu o que axudará a resolver bugs (espero)
un pouco máis rápido.

Moitas grazas a todos os que me axudastedes no wiki e deixando un
testimonio. Sobra decir que toda esa axuda verase recompensada en
melloras no sistema operante que todos empregamos.

Non me canso de decir: Grazas, Grazas, Grazas!
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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] Ubuntu Member

2009-12-01 Thread Indalecio Freiría Santos
Unha moi boa noticia! Parabéns!

2009/12/1 José Manuel Castroagudín Silva chavescesu...@gmail.com

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  Bueno rapaces,
 
  que dende fai media hora (ou así) son un Ubuntu Member co que terei unha
  relación máis directa con Ubuntu o que axudará a resolver bugs (espero)
  un pouco máis rápido.
 

 Xa cho dixen antes, pero ... felicidades!

  Moitas grazas a todos os que me axudastedes no wiki e deixando un
  testimonio. Sobra decir que toda esa axuda verase recompensada en
  melloras no sistema operante que todos empregamos.
 
  Non me canso de decir: Grazas, Grazas, Grazas!
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] instalar placa wireless acx111 no ubuntu 9.10

2009-12-01 Thread fs_siqueira
Bom dia Zandre,

Me desculpe pela incordialidade, a movimentação é tanta que às vezes
esquecemos detalhes.
De qualquer forma obrigado pelo suporte, pelo ndiswapper já havia
conseguido levantar a placa, porém não consegui instalando os drivers e
firmware.
Mas deixei funcionando pelo ndiswapper apesar de consumir mais
processador.

Atenciosamente,


Fernando Siqueira


Em Seg, 2009-11-30 às 10:01 -0200, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2009/11/27 fs_siqueira fs_sique...@yahoo.com.br:
  Senhores,
 
 Ôlas fs_siqueira.
 
  Estou montando um servidor internet com placa wireless com chipset da
  texas instruments acx111, o ubutun 9.10 não possui driver nativo, como
  proceder para instalação.
 
 Legal, mas um por favor na mensagem seria simpático. Uma pequena
 pesquisa em buscador da Internet obtive estes:
 
 http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
 http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Distribution_list/Ubuntu
 http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8283559#post8283559
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111
 http://www.gdhpress.com.br/ferramentas/leia/index.php?p=cap3-13
 
 Além de usar este porte, você poderia utilizar ela pelo ndiswapper
 com o driver do windows:
 
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Main_Page
 http://www.guiaubuntupt.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper
 
 Boa sorte.
 
  Atenciosamente,
  Fernando Siqueira
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] editar entradas do grub

2009-12-01 Thread Paulo Horácio
Pelo Startup Manager não dá para retirar as entradas, apenas editar algumas
configurações; já o arquivo grub.cfg ao abri-lo aparece uma mensagem dizendo
que não devo editar este arquivo, identifiquei as entradas nele que não me
interessam, mas será que se eu tirar não vai dar problema na inicialização?

2009/11/30 Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com

 2009/11/29 Paulo Horácio horacl...@gmail.com:

Ôlas Horácio.

  Fiz atualização do Ubuntu 9.10 e ele adicionou outras entradas (kernel
  antigo eu acho) nas entradas do grub, como faço para editar e deixar
 apenas
  as entradas que me convém já que após a atualização não tive nenhum
  problemas?

 Pode editar o arquivo /boot/grub/grub.cfg  e retirar as chamadas
 para outros kernels.

 $sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Tem tb o pacote este pacote:

 http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/startupmanager

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Barras / Painéis

2009-12-01 Thread Paulo Horácio
Aproveitando o Cairo-dock que eu gosto muito, não tem como ele se
autoocultar quando eu estiver trabalhando com janelas maximizadas? não vi
essa opção nele apenas um item que chama ocultar rapidamente onde ele fica
ocultado mas mesmo assim a janela não chega a maximizar ocupando toda a
tela, fica faltando o espaço da cairo-dock.

2009/11/30 Armando Barsotini Neto a.barsot...@gmail.com

 OK..  grato...

 2009/11/30 Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com

  2009/11/30 Armando Barsotini Neto a.barsot...@gmail.com:
   Bom Dia!
  
   Pessoal, instalei o CAIRO-DOCK no meu UBUNTU e ficou show...  porém,
   gostaria que determinadas aplicações (ao serem minimizadas) ficassem em
   outro PAINEL !!!
  
   Exemplo:  Tenho a barra do CAIRO e uma barra INFERIOR..  Antes de
  instalar o
   CAIRO os programas eram minimizados nessa barra inferior (Estilo
  Windows)..
   depois que instalei o CAIRO, eles minimizam nessa barra (estilo MAC)...
  
   É possível determinar em qual barra os programas vão minimizar 
  
 
  Se você tem um painel, basta que nele exista o applet Lista de Janelas.
 
  Mas se você usa o Cairo-dock, a idéia é poupar espaço e não ter a
  lista de janelas.
 
   Grato
  
   Att,
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] editar entradas do grub

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 10:51 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
 Pelo Startup Manager não dá para retirar as entradas, apenas editar algumas
 configurações; já o arquivo grub.cfg ao abri-lo aparece uma mensagem dizendo
 que não devo editar este arquivo, identifiquei as entradas nele que não me
 interessam, mas será que se eu tirar não vai dar problema na inicialização?

Na aba avançado do Startup Manager você pode limitar a exibição de
apenas 1 kernel e ocultar se quiser as opções dos modos de segurança e
checagem de memória, mas ficará valendo o kernel mais recente para a
inicialização.
* Estou me baseando nas opções para o grub anterior, não sei se isto
vale para o grub2 pois não estou com ele nesta máquina para verificar
isso.

Salles (Nethell)
  
 
 2009/11/30 Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com
 
  2009/11/29 Paulo Horácio horacl...@gmail.com:
 
 Ôlas Horácio.
 
   Fiz atualização do Ubuntu 9.10 e ele adicionou outras entradas (kernel
   antigo eu acho) nas entradas do grub, como faço para editar e deixar
  apenas
   as entradas que me convém já que após a atualização não tive nenhum
   problemas?
 
  Pode editar o arquivo /boot/grub/grub.cfg  e retirar as chamadas
  para outros kernels.
 
  $sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
 
 Tem tb o pacote este pacote:
 
  http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/startupmanager
 
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[Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Paulo Horácio
EEstou tentando instalar um software que nao encontrei em .deb e as
instruções parecem simples:

  1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
 `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
 using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
 `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
 `configure' itself.
make
 Running `configure' takes awhile.  While running, it prints some
 messages telling which features it is checking for.

  2. Type `make' to compile the package.

  3. Optionally, type `make check' to run any self-tests that come with
 the package.

  4. Type `make install' to install the programs and any data files and
 documentation.

...


Eu uso o ./configure e nenhum erro se apresenta; então digito make no
terminal e diz que o alvo não foi encontrado. Devo digitar alguma coisa mais
além de make?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] editar entradas do grub

2009-12-01 Thread Paulo Horácio
ele só serve pro grub 1 mesmo, no 2 essas opções não aparecem, valeu

2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com

 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 10:51 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
  Pelo Startup Manager não dá para retirar as entradas, apenas editar
 algumas
  configurações; já o arquivo grub.cfg ao abri-lo aparece uma mensagem
 dizendo
  que não devo editar este arquivo, identifiquei as entradas nele que não
 me
  interessam, mas será que se eu tirar não vai dar problema na
 inicialização?

 Na aba avançado do Startup Manager você pode limitar a exibição de
 apenas 1 kernel e ocultar se quiser as opções dos modos de segurança e
 checagem de memória, mas ficará valendo o kernel mais recente para a
 inicialização.
 * Estou me baseando nas opções para o grub anterior, não sei se isto
 vale para o grub2 pois não estou com ele nesta máquina para verificar
 isso.

 Salles (Nethell)

 
  2009/11/30 Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com
 
   2009/11/29 Paulo Horácio horacl...@gmail.com:
  
  Ôlas Horácio.
  
Fiz atualização do Ubuntu 9.10 e ele adicionou outras entradas
 (kernel
antigo eu acho) nas entradas do grub, como faço para editar e deixar
   apenas
as entradas que me convém já que após a atualização não tive nenhum
problemas?
  
   Pode editar o arquivo /boot/grub/grub.cfg  e retirar as chamadas
   para outros kernels.
  
   $sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
  
  Tem tb o pacote este pacote:
  
   http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/startupmanager
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Barras / Painéis

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 10:53 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
 Aproveitando o Cairo-dock que eu gosto muito, não tem como ele se
 autoocultar quando eu estiver trabalhando com janelas maximizadas? não vi
 essa opção nele apenas um item que chama ocultar rapidamente onde ele fica
 ocultado mas mesmo assim a janela não chega a maximizar ocupando toda a
 tela, fica faltando o espaço da cairo-dock.

Paulo, instalei o cairo apenas para testes e já o removi, mas havia a
opção normal de auto-ocultar e lembro-me que independente dele oculto
ou não as janelas apareciam totalmente maximizadas, ele sobrepunha o
menu nas janelas quando respondia ao mouse. Dê uma nova conferida nas
opções gerais.

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 2009/11/30 Armando Barsotini Neto a.barsot...@gmail.com
 
  OK..  grato...
 
  2009/11/30 Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com
 
   2009/11/30 Armando Barsotini Neto a.barsot...@gmail.com:
Bom Dia!
   
Pessoal, instalei o CAIRO-DOCK no meu UBUNTU e ficou show...  porém,
gostaria que determinadas aplicações (ao serem minimizadas) ficassem em
outro PAINEL !!!
   
Exemplo:  Tenho a barra do CAIRO e uma barra INFERIOR..  Antes de
   instalar o
CAIRO os programas eram minimizados nessa barra inferior (Estilo
   Windows)..
depois que instalei o CAIRO, eles minimizam nessa barra (estilo MAC)...
   
É possível determinar em qual barra os programas vão minimizar 
   
  
   Se você tem um painel, basta que nele exista o applet Lista de Janelas.
  
   Mas se você usa o Cairo-dock, a idéia é poupar espaço e não ter a
   lista de janelas.
  
Grato
   
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Barras / Painéis

2009-12-01 Thread Xisberto
2009/12/1 Paulo Horácio horacl...@gmail.com:
 Aproveitando o Cairo-dock que eu gosto muito, não tem como ele se
 autoocultar quando eu estiver trabalhando com janelas maximizadas? não vi
 essa opção nele apenas um item que chama ocultar rapidamente onde ele fica
 ocultado mas mesmo assim a janela não chega a maximizar ocupando toda a
 tela, fica faltando o espaço da cairo-dock.


Já não estou usando mais o cairo-dock, mas lembro de duas opções. Uma
é para reservar um espaço para o cairo-dock, outra para fazer ele
vir pra frente. Claro que você precisa desabilitar o espaço reservado
pra ele.

 2009/11/30 Armando Barsotini Neto a.barsot...@gmail.com

 OK..  grato...

 2009/11/30 Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com

  2009/11/30 Armando Barsotini Neto a.barsot...@gmail.com:
   Bom Dia!
  
   Pessoal, instalei o CAIRO-DOCK no meu UBUNTU e ficou show...  porém,
   gostaria que determinadas aplicações (ao serem minimizadas) ficassem em
   outro PAINEL !!!
  
   Exemplo:  Tenho a barra do CAIRO e uma barra INFERIOR..  Antes de
  instalar o
   CAIRO os programas eram minimizados nessa barra inferior (Estilo
  Windows)..
   depois que instalei o CAIRO, eles minimizam nessa barra (estilo MAC)...
  
   É possível determinar em qual barra os programas vão minimizar 
  
 
  Se você tem um painel, basta que nele exista o applet Lista de Janelas.
 
  Mas se você usa o Cairo-dock, a idéia é poupar espaço e não ter a
  lista de janelas.
 
   Grato
  
   Att,
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] editar entradas do grub

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 11:16 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
 ele só serve pro grub 1 mesmo, no 2 essas opções não aparecem, valeu

Então faz uma cópia de segurança do arquivo grub.conf, edita e verifique
se deu certo. Caso apresente algum erro, reponha o original.

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 2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com
 
  Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 10:51 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
   Pelo Startup Manager não dá para retirar as entradas, apenas editar
  algumas
   configurações; já o arquivo grub.cfg ao abri-lo aparece uma mensagem
  dizendo
   que não devo editar este arquivo, identifiquei as entradas nele que não
  me
   interessam, mas será que se eu tirar não vai dar problema na
  inicialização?
 
  Na aba avançado do Startup Manager você pode limitar a exibição de
  apenas 1 kernel e ocultar se quiser as opções dos modos de segurança e
  checagem de memória, mas ficará valendo o kernel mais recente para a
  inicialização.
  * Estou me baseando nas opções para o grub anterior, não sei se isto
  vale para o grub2 pois não estou com ele nesta máquina para verificar
  isso.
 
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   2009/11/30 Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com
  
2009/11/29 Paulo Horácio horacl...@gmail.com:
   
   Ôlas Horácio.
   
 Fiz atualização do Ubuntu 9.10 e ele adicionou outras entradas
  (kernel
 antigo eu acho) nas entradas do grub, como faço para editar e deixar
apenas
 as entradas que me convém já que após a atualização não tive nenhum
 problemas?
   
Pode editar o arquivo /boot/grub/grub.cfg  e retirar as chamadas
para outros kernels.
   
$sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
   
   Tem tb o pacote este pacote:
   
http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/startupmanager
   
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[Ubuntu-BR] converter imagem e áudio a partir do nautilus

2009-12-01 Thread Paulo Horácio
Como posso instalar um script ou software que ao clicar com o botão direito
do mouse em arquivos de áudio e imagem no nautilus eu tenha uma interface
para conversão? Tentei instalar o nautilus-image-manager mas não apareceu
nada qdo tento manipular as imagens.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 11:14 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
 EEstou tentando instalar um software que nao encontrei em .deb e as
 instruções parecem simples:
   1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
  `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
  using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
  `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
  `configure' itself.
 make
  Running `configure' takes awhile.  While running, it prints some
  messages telling which features it is checking for.
   2. Type `make' to compile the package.
   3. Optionally, type `make check' to run any self-tests that come with
 the package.
   4. Type `make install' to install the programs and any data files and
  documentation.
 Eu uso o ./configure e nenhum erro se apresenta; então digito make no
 terminal e diz que o alvo não foi encontrado. Devo digitar alguma coisa mais
 além de make?

 sudo make


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[Ubuntu-BR] ot - VMWare e crash

2009-12-01 Thread Nilson Chagas
Alguém tem tipo algum problema como VMWare Server 2 com o guest ficar
ocupando 100% da CPU do Host??

Comigo acontece com os meus host (ubuntu 9.10 e centOS 5.4 ou 5.3), e os
guest W2K3 utilizando com o TS.

Estou pensando seriamente em testar a versão 1.0 do VMware, parede que esta
versão 2 esta bem instavel.

Só não sei se consigo fazer um downgrade

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[Ubuntu-BR] tela congelada no ubuntu 8.04

2009-12-01 Thread Regis bailux
lista,
preciso recuperar meu ubuntu 8.04.
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abs,
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Ursula Junque
2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 11:14 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
 EEstou tentando instalar um software que nao encontrei em .deb e as
 instruções parecem simples:
   1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
      `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
      using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
      `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
      `configure' itself.
 make
      Running `configure' takes awhile.  While running, it prints some
      messages telling which features it is checking for.
   2. Type `make' to compile the package.
   3. Optionally, type `make check' to run any self-tests that come with
     the package.
   4. Type `make install' to install the programs and any data files and
      documentation.
 Eu uso o ./configure e nenhum erro se apresenta; então digito make no
 terminal e diz que o alvo não foi encontrado. Devo digitar alguma coisa mais
 além de make?

  sudo make

@Salles:
Hmm, eu acredito que quando ele diz que o alvo não foi encontrado é pq
não achou o Makefile no diretório, ou o Makefile não tem um target
default, então vc teria que especificar make bla. Pq vc diz que sudo
resolveria?

@Paulo:
O arquivo que é executado quando vc dá make se chama Makefile. Vc
saberia dizer o conteudo desse arquivo? Rodar um make clean e depois
tentar o processo novamente funciona?


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 11:46 -0300, Ursula Junque escreveu:
 2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
  Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 11:14 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
  EEstou tentando instalar um software que nao encontrei em .deb e as
  instruções parecem simples:
1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
   `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
   using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
   `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
   `configure' itself.
  make
   Running `configure' takes awhile.  While running, it prints some
   messages telling which features it is checking for.
2. Type `make' to compile the package.
3. Optionally, type `make check' to run any self-tests that come with
  the package.
4. Type `make install' to install the programs and any data files and
   documentation.
  Eu uso o ./configure e nenhum erro se apresenta; então digito make no
  terminal e diz que o alvo não foi encontrado. Devo digitar alguma coisa 
  mais
  além de make?
 
   sudo make
 
 @Salles:
 Hmm, eu acredito que quando ele diz que o alvo não foi encontrado é pq
 não achou o Makefile no diretório, ou o Makefile não tem um target
 default, então vc teria que especificar make bla. Pq vc diz que sudo
 resolveria?

Já faz algum tempo que não faço instalações na unha, passei apenas a
prática de utilizar o administrador para execução (make) ou install
(make install), daí a informação que passei. 
De qualquer forma, suponho que o alvo não encontrado foi originado pelo
comando não ter sido executado pelo administrador.

 @Paulo:
 O arquivo que é executado quando vc dá make se chama Makefile. Vc
 saberia dizer o conteudo desse arquivo? Rodar um make clean e depois
 tentar o processo novamente funciona?
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] tela congelada no ubuntu 8.04

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 14:41 +, Regis bailux escreveu:
 lista,
 preciso recuperar meu ubuntu 8.04.
 qualquer dica obrigado.
 abs,
 Regis

Regis,

Passe mais informações ao pessoal do que ocorreu contigo, se fizeste
alguma atualização mal sucedida, trocaste algum item do hardware,
instalou ou desinstaleou alguma coisa... sem saber por onde começar,
como alguém pode te ajudar?

Se o teu grub entra, experimente a segunda opção de inicialização (modo
seguro) e execute a opção restaurar pacotes, após te-lo feito,
experimente reiniciar normalmente. 

De qualquer forma, diga exatamente em que estágio a tela congela. 

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Ursula Junque
2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 11:46 -0300, Ursula Junque escreveu:
 2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
  Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 11:14 -0200, Paulo Horácio escreveu:
  EEstou tentando instalar um software que nao encontrei em .deb e as
  instruções parecem simples:
    1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
       `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
       using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
       `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
       `configure' itself.
  make
       Running `configure' takes awhile.  While running, it prints some
       messages telling which features it is checking for.
    2. Type `make' to compile the package.
    3. Optionally, type `make check' to run any self-tests that come with
      the package.
    4. Type `make install' to install the programs and any data files and
       documentation.
  Eu uso o ./configure e nenhum erro se apresenta; então digito make no
  terminal e diz que o alvo não foi encontrado. Devo digitar alguma coisa 
  mais
  além de make?
 
   sudo make

 @Salles:
 Hmm, eu acredito que quando ele diz que o alvo não foi encontrado é pq
 não achou o Makefile no diretório, ou o Makefile não tem um target
 default, então vc teria que especificar make bla. Pq vc diz que sudo
 resolveria?

 Já faz algum tempo que não faço instalações na unha, passei apenas a
 prática de utilizar o administrador para execução (make) ou install
 (make install), daí a informação que passei.
 De qualquer forma, suponho que o alvo não encontrado foi originado pelo
 comando não ter sido executado pelo administrador.

Entendi. :) Obrigada por responder, eu realmente fiquei curiosa pra
saber pois já ouvi inclusive que não se deve rodar make como root.
No caso do make install eu concordo, pois se ele não especificar o
--target ao rodar o configure pra uma pasta a qual tenha acesso, vai
precisar de admin pra conseguir instalar os arquivos compilados nas
pastas do sistema. Mas no caso do make acho que não faz diferença não,
o alvo que o make diz não encontrar até onde sei está relacionado só
com o Makefile. Aí a gente teria que ver o Makefile dele mesmo,
acredito eu...


 @Paulo:
 O arquivo que é executado quando vc dá make se chama Makefile. Vc
 saberia dizer o conteudo desse arquivo? Rodar um make clean e depois
 tentar o processo novamente funciona?



Abraços!



 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 12:21 -0300, Ursula Junque escreveu:
 Entendi. :) Obrigada por responder, eu realmente fiquei curiosa pra
 saber pois já ouvi inclusive que não se deve rodar make como root.
 No caso do make install eu concordo, pois se ele não especificar o
 --target ao rodar o configure pra uma pasta a qual tenha acesso, vai
 precisar de admin pra conseguir instalar os arquivos compilados nas
 pastas do sistema. Mas no caso do make acho que não faz diferença não,
 o alvo que o make diz não encontrar até onde sei está relacionado só
 com o Makefile. Aí a gente teria que ver o Makefile dele mesmo,
 acredito eu...

  @Paulo:
  O arquivo que é executado quando vc dá make se chama Makefile. Vc
  saberia dizer o conteudo desse arquivo? Rodar um make clean e depois
  tentar o processo novamente funciona?

O Paulo poderia usar o instalador de pacotes deb para isso, não
precisaria quebrar a cabeça e saberia de cara se existem dependências.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Ursula Junque
2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 12:21 -0300, Ursula Junque escreveu:
 Entendi. :) Obrigada por responder, eu realmente fiquei curiosa pra
 saber pois já ouvi inclusive que não se deve rodar make como root.
 No caso do make install eu concordo, pois se ele não especificar o
 --target ao rodar o configure pra uma pasta a qual tenha acesso, vai
 precisar de admin pra conseguir instalar os arquivos compilados nas
 pastas do sistema. Mas no caso do make acho que não faz diferença não,
 o alvo que o make diz não encontrar até onde sei está relacionado só
 com o Makefile. Aí a gente teria que ver o Makefile dele mesmo,
 acredito eu...

  @Paulo:
  O arquivo que é executado quando vc dá make se chama Makefile. Vc
  saberia dizer o conteudo desse arquivo? Rodar um make clean e depois
  tentar o processo novamente funciona?

 O Paulo poderia usar o instalador de pacotes deb para isso, não
 precisaria quebrar a cabeça e saberia de cara se existem dependências.

Hmm, como assim? Eu nem pensei nisso pois a primeira coisa que ele
disse no email é que não tinha achado .deb :)

Paulo, qual o software que vc está tentando instalar? Pode ser que
tenha em algum PPA do Launchpad, ai vc pode instalar usando apt-get,
como o Salles disse.



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Zandre Bran
2009/12/1 Ursula Junque ursi...@gmail.com:
 2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
[...] O Paulo poderia usar o instalador de pacotes deb para isso, não
 precisaria quebrar a cabeça e saberia de cara se existem dependências.

 Hmm, como assim? Eu nem pensei nisso pois a primeira coisa que ele
 disse no email é que não tinha achado .deb :)

 Seria o auto-apt para não pensar em dependências?

#auto-apt run ./configure
#auto-apt run make  auto-apt run make install

http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/auto-apt
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 14:06 -0200, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2009/12/1 Ursula Junque ursi...@gmail.com:
  2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
 [...] O Paulo poderia usar o instalador de pacotes deb para isso, não
  precisaria quebrar a cabeça e saberia de cara se existem dependências.

  Hmm, como assim? Eu nem pensei nisso pois a primeira coisa que ele
  disse no email é que não tinha achado .deb :)

 Seria o auto-apt para não pensar em dependências?
 #auto-apt run ./configure
 #auto-apt run make  auto-apt run make install
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/auto-apt
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt

Bem lembrado, Zandre. A gente para de usar, esquece dos recursos... e
esse é excelente.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ajuda para compilar software

2009-12-01 Thread Ursula Junque
2009/12/1 Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com:
 2009/12/1 Ursula Junque ursi...@gmail.com:
 2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com:
[...] O Paulo poderia usar o instalador de pacotes deb para isso, não
 precisaria quebrar a cabeça e saberia de cara se existem dependências.

 Hmm, como assim? Eu nem pensei nisso pois a primeira coisa que ele
 disse no email é que não tinha achado .deb :)

     Seria o auto-apt para não pensar em dependências?

 #auto-apt run ./configure
 #auto-apt run make  auto-apt run make install

Uia! Que interessante, não conhecia. :) Vou até dar uma olhada por
aqui, valeu Zandre :)


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot - VMWare e crash

2009-12-01 Thread Bruno Correia
Aqui está funcionando normalmente, não será algum processo em alguma das 
máquinas virtuais que está causando isso?

Quanto ao Downgrade, é possível, porem é preciso ir nas propriedades das 
máquinas virtuais e modificar o hardware delas para a versão 1.0, 
desinstalar a versão 2 e depois executar o instalador da versão 1.0.


Nilson Chagas escreveu:
 Alguém tem tipo algum problema como VMWare Server 2 com o guest ficar
 ocupando 100% da CPU do Host??

 Comigo acontece com os meus host (ubuntu 9.10 e centOS 5.4 ou 5.3), e os
 guest W2K3 utilizando com o TS.

 Estou pensando seriamente em testar a versão 1.0 do VMware, parede que esta
 versão 2 esta bem instavel.

 Só não sei se consigo fazer um downgrade

   


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot - VMWare e crash

2009-12-01 Thread Nilson Chagas
2009/12/1 Bruno Correia bcorr...@gmail.com

 Aqui está funcionando normalmente, não será algum processo em alguma das
 máquinas virtuais que está causando isso?

 Quanto ao Downgrade, é possível, porem é preciso ir nas propriedades das
 máquinas virtuais e modificar o hardware delas para a versão 1.0,
 desinstalar a versão 2 e depois executar o instalador da versão 1.0.


 Quando vc diz modificar o hardware, vc esta falando de reconfigurar o
VMware Tools???

Cara pode até ser alguma processo, pq o guest CentOS até agora não deu
nenhum problema, só as que são Windows.

Estou dando todo tipo de tiro, mas não acertei na mosca ainda.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot - VMWare e crash

2009-12-01 Thread Bruno Correia
Não, seria mudar no menu vm  upgrade/change version, não lembro onde 
fica ao certo no Vmware Server 2.0, mas seria necessário mudar para a 
versão anterior para a VM funcionar perfeitamente.

Nilson Chagas escreveu:
 2009/12/1 Bruno Correia bcorr...@gmail.com

   
 Aqui está funcionando normalmente, não será algum processo em alguma das
 máquinas virtuais que está causando isso?

 Quanto ao Downgrade, é possível, porem é preciso ir nas propriedades das
 máquinas virtuais e modificar o hardware delas para a versão 1.0,
 desinstalar a versão 2 e depois executar o instalador da versão 1.0.


 Quando vc diz modificar o hardware, vc esta falando de reconfigurar o
 
 VMware Tools???

 Cara pode até ser alguma processo, pq o guest CentOS até agora não deu
 nenhum problema, só as que são Windows.

 Estou dando todo tipo de tiro, mas não acertei na mosca ainda.

   


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[Ubuntu-BR] Preciso de ajuda com o Kompozer

2009-12-01 Thread Francisco Carlos da Rocha Gomes
Colegas,

Instalei o Kompozer em meu computador com o Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala 
mas, quando pressiono F9 não está aparecendo o Site Manager, só aparece 
o Sidebar vazio.

O que pode ser??

Cordial abraço,

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Preciso de ajuda com o Kompozer

2009-12-01 Thread Zandre Bran
2009/12/1 Francisco Carlos da Rocha Gomes fcar...@cpafac.embrapa.br:
 Colegas,

Ôlas Gomes.

 Instalei o Kompozer em meu computador com o Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala
 mas, quando pressiono F9 não está aparecendo o Site Manager, só aparece
 o Sidebar vazio.

 O que pode ser??

Não sei. Mas sempre achei este Kompozer super bugado, isto desde
que se chamava NVU. Minha sugestão fica em usar o Seamonkey Composer
que está no pacote:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/seamonkey-browser

 Cordial abraço,
 Francisco Carlos

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[Ubuntu-BR] Ícone do painel superior

2009-12-01 Thread Dalton Cézane
Do meu painel superior aqui, no Ubuntu 9.04, sumiu o ícone que reúne as
opções de desligar, trocar usuário, fazer logoff, hibernar, etc.
Alguém pode me dizer como adiciono novamente? (já tentei no botão
direito-add to panel, etc., mas não tem esse ícone)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot - VMWare e crash

2009-12-01 Thread Nilson Chagas
2009/12/1 Bruno Correia bcorr...@gmail.com

 Não, seria mudar no menu vm  upgrade/change version, não lembro onde
 fica ao certo no Vmware Server 2.0, mas seria necessário mudar para a
 versão anterior para a VM funcionar perfeitamente.


Vou brigar mais um pouco, tentarei descobrir se tem algum processo
prejudicando.

Interessante é, que o problema acontece depois de algum tempo da vms ligada,
mesmo que nenhum usuário esteja conectando nele remotamente.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ícone do painel superior

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 14:26 -0300, Dalton Cézane escreveu:
 Do meu painel superior aqui, no Ubuntu 9.04, sumiu o ícone que reúne as
 opções de desligar, trocar usuário, fazer logoff, hibernar, etc.
 Alguém pode me dizer como adiciono novamente? (já tentei no botão
 direito-add to panel, etc., mas não tem esse ícone)

Se não me engano é o fast-user-switch-applet. tente reinstala-lo.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ícone do painel superior

2009-12-01 Thread Dalton Cézane
É o user switcher. =)
Já havia instalado. Agradeço a ajuda.

2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com

 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 14:26 -0300, Dalton Cézane escreveu:
  Do meu painel superior aqui, no Ubuntu 9.04, sumiu o ícone que reúne as
  opções de desligar, trocar usuário, fazer logoff, hibernar, etc.
  Alguém pode me dizer como adiciono novamente? (já tentei no botão
  direito-add to panel, etc., mas não tem esse ícone)

 Se não me engano é o fast-user-switch-applet. tente reinstala-lo.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] tela congelada no ubuntu 8.04

2009-12-01 Thread Regis bailux
Salles,
obrigado pelo seu retorno,sai por tres dias e dixei meu filho de 14 anos
como usurario da maquina,na volta abri normalmente o gemail e na horas de
digitar travaou e dai o sitema carrega normalmente e o maouse fnciona ate o
momento em que tento abrir algum aplcativo onde tudo ta consgelado.
obrigado pelo help,
abs

2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com

 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 14:41 +, Regis bailux escreveu:
  lista,
  preciso recuperar meu ubuntu 8.04.
  qualquer dica obrigado.
  abs,
  Regis

 Regis,

 Passe mais informações ao pessoal do que ocorreu contigo, se fizeste
 alguma atualização mal sucedida, trocaste algum item do hardware,
 instalou ou desinstaleou alguma coisa... sem saber por onde começar,
 como alguém pode te ajudar?

 Se o teu grub entra, experimente a segunda opção de inicialização (modo
 seguro) e execute a opção restaurar pacotes, após te-lo feito,
 experimente reiniciar normalmente.

 De qualquer forma, diga exatamente em que estágio a tela congela.

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[Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid

2009-12-01 Thread Bruno Eduardo
Caro companheiros, uso ubuntu 9.10 + squid 2.7 + sarg, para gerenciamento de
rede.
Tem alguns espertinhos usando o utraSurf para burlar o meu squid, gostaria
de saber se alguem conseguiu bloquear esse sistema pelo servidor.
li na net  que bloquear a porta 443 resolve mas outros serviços dependem
dela.

Se algum puder ajudar agradeço.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid

2009-12-01 Thread Gabriel Garcia
Bloquear o hash do executavel via GPO tb

2009/12/1 Bruno Eduardo brunoeacam...@gmail.com

 Caro companheiros, uso ubuntu 9.10 + squid 2.7 + sarg, para gerenciamento
 de
 rede.
 Tem alguns espertinhos usando o utraSurf para burlar o meu squid, gostaria
 de saber se alguem conseguiu bloquear esse sistema pelo servidor.
 li na net  que bloquear a porta 443 resolve mas outros serviços dependem
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] tela congelada no ubuntu 8.04

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 18:54 +, Regis bailux escreveu:
 Salles,
 obrigado pelo seu retorno,sai por tres dias e dixei meu filho de 14 anos
 como usurario da maquina,na volta abri normalmente o gemail e na horas de
 digitar travaou e dai o sitema carrega normalmente e o maouse fnciona ate o
 momento em que tento abrir algum aplcativo onde tudo ta consgelado.
 obrigado pelo help,
 abs

A princípio, pelos sintomas, acredito que o problema esteja relacionado
ao ambiente gráfico, mas pode ser processador, memória, etc.

Vá em Sistema  Preferências  Aparência  Efeitos Visuais e desative-os
se estiverem ativados. Caso já estejam desativados, verifique em
Aplicativos  Outros  Telas e placas de vídeo (acho que é este o
caminho), e verifique se as configurações estão de acordo com teu
hardware, caso negativo, faça as alterações necessárias verificando o
suporte de seu monitor.

Verifique se o processador não está esquentando demasiadamente, veja a
possibilidade de baixar o clock dele no setup da bios, verifique também
se há problemas com os pentes de memória.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid

2009-12-01 Thread Gabriel Garcia
esse artigo é o q vc precisa!

http://samuelsousa.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/aprenda-bloquear-o-ultrasurf-na-rede/

2009/12/1 Bruno Eduardo brunoeacam...@gmail.com

 Caro companheiros, uso ubuntu 9.10 + squid 2.7 + sarg, para gerenciamento
 de
 rede.
 Tem alguns espertinhos usando o utraSurf para burlar o meu squid, gostaria
 de saber se alguem conseguiu bloquear esse sistema pelo servidor.
 li na net  que bloquear a porta 443 resolve mas outros serviços dependem
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid

2009-12-01 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 17:24 -0200, Bruno Eduardo escreveu:
 Caro companheiros, uso ubuntu 9.10 + squid 2.7 + sarg, para gerenciamento de
 rede.
 Tem alguns espertinhos usando o utraSurf para burlar o meu squid, gostaria
 de saber se alguem conseguiu bloquear esse sistema pelo servidor.
 li na net  que bloquear a porta 443 resolve mas outros serviços dependem
 dela.

Bruno, 

Neste tópico que te envio, está informado que o UltraSurf usa a porta
9666 do localhost... dá uma conferida nos posts:
http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/9158-how-block-ultrasurf.html

- Are you sure this software only uses 9666 port? If so block it
using /etc/sysconfig/iptables add 9666 as drop rule.
- yes i'm sure. did u see my iptables script above that block port
9666.
- Unfortunatley the port un UltraSurf is 9666 on localhost, and the
software is using this as a proxy it is injecting into the IE on the
fly. This equates to a website called http://Ultra1 
One way of controlling the program, I have found so far, is to place
ultra1 in the Restricted Zone in Internet Options / Security /
Restricted Sites of IE. Go to Custom Level and set all items to Disable
or High Safety except Popup Blocker.
The program appears to make a lot of DNS calls to find the servers it is
using. Blocking the servers it talks to may be another way, but it is
not using port 80 or whatever your proxy server is.

Outras informações em
http://forums.techarena.in/server-security/1002038.htm

Boa sorte, 

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid

2009-12-01 Thread Anderson Fraga
Outra solução seria limitar o número de requisições HTTPS em 10, por 
exemplo, já que o UltraSurf utiliza, normalmente, cerca de 20 conexões deste 
tipo.

Até porque acredito que ninguém acessaria 10 bancos/e-commerce ao mesmo 
tempo...

Sds,
Anderson Fraga
www.andersonfraga.net
cont...@andersonfraga.net
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From: Salles salles@gmail.com
To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid


Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 17:24 -0200, Bruno Eduardo escreveu:
 Caro companheiros, uso ubuntu 9.10 + squid 2.7 + sarg, para gerenciamento 
 de
 rede.
 Tem alguns espertinhos usando o utraSurf para burlar o meu squid, gostaria
 de saber se alguem conseguiu bloquear esse sistema pelo servidor.
 li na net  que bloquear a porta 443 resolve mas outros serviços dependem
 dela.

Bruno,

Neste tópico que te envio, está informado que o UltraSurf usa a porta
9666 do localhost... dá uma conferida nos posts:
http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/9158-how-block-ultrasurf.html

- Are you sure this software only uses 9666 port? If so block it
using /etc/sysconfig/iptables add 9666 as drop rule.
- yes i'm sure. did u see my iptables script above that block port
9666.
- Unfortunatley the port un UltraSurf is 9666 on localhost, and the
software is using this as a proxy it is injecting into the IE on the
fly. This equates to a website called http://Ultra1
One way of controlling the program, I have found so far, is to place
ultra1 in the Restricted Zone in Internet Options / Security /
Restricted Sites of IE. Go to Custom Level and set all items to Disable
or High Safety except Popup Blocker.
The program appears to make a lot of DNS calls to find the servers it is
using. Blocking the servers it talks to may be another way, but it is
not using port 80 or whatever your proxy server is.

Outras informações em
http://forums.techarena.in/server-security/1002038.htm

Boa sorte,

Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 Linux User 496632


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid

2009-12-01 Thread Armando Neto
Olá Anderson...

Poderia explicar o procedimento para bloquear a quantidade de  
requisições em HTTPS

Grato se puder me ajudar

Atenciosamente,

Armando

Em 01/12/2009, às 17:49, Anderson Fraga gro...@andersonfraga.net  
escreveu:

 Outra solução seria limitar o número de requisições HTTPS em 10,  
 por
 exemplo, já que o UltraSurf utiliza, normalmente, cerca de 20 conexõ 
 es deste
 tipo.

 Até porque acredito que ninguém acessaria 10 bancos/e-commerce ao me 
 smo
 tempo...

 Sds,
 Anderson Fraga
 www.andersonfraga.net
 cont...@andersonfraga.net
 - Original Message -
 From: Salles salles@gmail.com
 To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.co 
 m
 Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid


 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 17:24 -0200, Bruno Eduardo escreveu:
 Caro companheiros, uso ubuntu 9.10 + squid 2.7 + sarg, para  
 gerenciamento
 de
 rede.
 Tem alguns espertinhos usando o utraSurf para burlar o meu squid,  
 gostaria
 de saber se alguem conseguiu bloquear esse sistema pelo servidor.
 li na net  que bloquear a porta 443 resolve mas outros serviços de 
 pendem
 dela.

 Bruno,

 Neste tópico que te envio, está informado que o UltraSurf usa a por 
 ta
 9666 do localhost... dá uma conferida nos posts:
 http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/9158-how-block-ultrasurf.html

 - Are you sure this software only uses 9666 port? If so block it
 using /etc/sysconfig/iptables add 9666 as drop rule.
 - yes i'm sure. did u see my iptables script above that block port
 9666.
 - Unfortunatley the port un UltraSurf is 9666 on localhost, and the
 software is using this as a proxy it is injecting into the IE on the
 fly. This equates to a website called http://Ultra1
 One way of controlling the program, I have found so far, is to place
 ultra1 in the Restricted Zone in Internet Options / Security /
 Restricted Sites of IE. Go to Custom Level and set all items to  
 Disable
 or High Safety except Popup Blocker.
 The program appears to make a lot of DNS calls to find the servers  
 it is
 using. Blocking the servers it talks to may be another way, but it is
 not using port 80 or whatever your proxy server is.

 Outras informações em
 http://forums.techarena.in/server-security/1002038.htm

 Boa sorte,

 Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 Linux User 496632


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid

2009-12-01 Thread Marcelo nunes dos santos
Aqui nos temos bloqueado ele pelo hash conforme o amigo acima falou, não é a
solução mais efetiva mas funciona.

tambem estou bloqueando as alteraçoes de proxy do sistema e impedindo que o
usuario altere o registro para evitar que ele mude o proxy.


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2009/12/1 Armando Neto a.barsot...@gmail.com

 Olá Anderson...

 Poderia explicar o procedimento para bloquear a quantidade de
 requisições em HTTPS

 Grato se puder me ajudar

 Atenciosamente,

 Armando

 Em 01/12/2009, às 17:49, Anderson Fraga gro...@andersonfraga.net
 escreveu:

  Outra solução seria limitar o número de requisições HTTPS em 10,
  por
  exemplo, já que o UltraSurf utiliza, normalmente, cerca de 20 conexõ
  es deste
  tipo.
 
  Até porque acredito que ninguém acessaria 10 bancos/e-commerce ao me
  smo
  tempo...
 
  Sds,
  Anderson Fraga
  www.andersonfraga.net
  cont...@andersonfraga.net
  - Original Message -
  From: Salles salles@gmail.com
  To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro 
 ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.co
  m
  Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ultraSurf vs squid
 
 
  Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 17:24 -0200, Bruno Eduardo escreveu:
  Caro companheiros, uso ubuntu 9.10 + squid 2.7 + sarg, para
  gerenciamento
  de
  rede.
  Tem alguns espertinhos usando o utraSurf para burlar o meu squid,
  gostaria
  de saber se alguem conseguiu bloquear esse sistema pelo servidor.
  li na net  que bloquear a porta 443 resolve mas outros serviços de
  pendem
  dela.
 
  Bruno,
 
  Neste tópico que te envio, está informado que o UltraSurf usa a por
  ta
  9666 do localhost... dá uma conferida nos posts:
  http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/9158-how-block-ultrasurf.html
 
  - Are you sure this software only uses 9666 port? If so block it
  using /etc/sysconfig/iptables add 9666 as drop rule.
  - yes i'm sure. did u see my iptables script above that block port
  9666.
  - Unfortunatley the port un UltraSurf is 9666 on localhost, and the
  software is using this as a proxy it is injecting into the IE on the
  fly. This equates to a website called http://Ultra1
  One way of controlling the program, I have found so far, is to place
  ultra1 in the Restricted Zone in Internet Options / Security /
  Restricted Sites of IE. Go to Custom Level and set all items to
  Disable
  or High Safety except Popup Blocker.
  The program appears to make a lot of DNS calls to find the servers
  it is
  using. Blocking the servers it talks to may be another way, but it is
  not using port 80 or whatever your proxy server is.
 
  Outras informações em
  http://forums.techarena.in/server-security/1002038.htm
 
  Boa sorte,
 
  Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 Linux User 496632
 
 
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[Ubuntu-BR] Problemas ao carregar vídeo do Youtu be

2009-12-01 Thread Ricardo Santos
Boa noite pessoal,
Eu estava com alguns problemas ao carregar vídeos do Youtube, pois a todo
momento ele me pedia para instalar o plugin da adobe. Resolvi este problema!
O grande problema é que agora eu consigo carregar os primeiros segundos do
vídeo (algo em torno de 5 segundos) e depois aquela barra de video
simplesmente recua e não consigo mais ver nada.
O que posso fazer?
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] tela congelada no ubuntu 8.04

2009-12-01 Thread Regis bailux
salles,
entrei com novo usuario ctrl +alt +f2 e estou de volta.
obrigado,vou intalar com um amigo o ubuntu 9.10
abs
2009/12/1 Salles salles@gmail.com

 Em Ter, 2009-12-01 às 18:54 +, Regis bailux escreveu:
  Salles,
  obrigado pelo seu retorno,sai por tres dias e dixei meu filho de 14 anos
  como usurario da maquina,na volta abri normalmente o gemail e na horas de
  digitar travaou e dai o sitema carrega normalmente e o maouse fnciona ate
 o
  momento em que tento abrir algum aplcativo onde tudo ta consgelado.
  obrigado pelo help,
  abs

 A princípio, pelos sintomas, acredito que o problema esteja relacionado
 ao ambiente gráfico, mas pode ser processador, memória, etc.

 Vá em Sistema  Preferências  Aparência  Efeitos Visuais e desative-os
 se estiverem ativados. Caso já estejam desativados, verifique em
 Aplicativos  Outros  Telas e placas de vídeo (acho que é este o
 caminho), e verifique se as configurações estão de acordo com teu
 hardware, caso negativo, faça as alterações necessárias verificando o
 suporte de seu monitor.

 Verifique se o processador não está esquentando demasiadamente, veja a
 possibilidade de baixar o clock dele no setup da bios, verifique também
 se há problemas com os pentes de memória.

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[Ubuntu-BR] configurações separadas para cada área de trabalho

2009-12-01 Thread Paulo Horácio
como crio configurações diferentes para cada área de trabalho? Um
exemplo: na área 1 eu uso duas barras superiores, na área dois eu
quero remover as duas barras superiores, mas se eu fizer isso remove a
da área 1 tb.

E há algum atalho para trocar de área? eu uso o cubo pelo compiz, mas
até agora nunca vi o cubo, só consigo ir de uma área para outra
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