[ubuntu-art] Sites and Duplication
Hey folks, I'll be at UDS in Orlando so if any of you will be there, do come and see me and we can talk more about this issue. We have a problem in our community of a great deal of duplication, each solution focuses on a small slice and as such there is lots of functionality which should be shared but isn't. Here is what I know about: -- Official Websites -- * Ubuntu Art Wikipage - Informational * Spread Ubuntu - Store of artworks, needs work * Ubuntu Look - Store of themes, wallpapers etc * Ubuntu Owl Art - Experimental ccHost build for learning materials. -- Community Outreach -- * Ubuntu Flickr Group * Ubuntu Artists deviantArt group -- Related Programs -- * Ubuntu Wallpapers Contest Wikipage * Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase If you know things I'm missing from this list, let me know. So basically I'd like to reduce the duplication of effort in the official websites. This would mean cutting down on sites and focusing on improving the functionality of a single site to make sure it can do the majority of handling media. The spread ubuntu website seems to be the most successful in terms of functionality and visibility. It's focus is on providing advertising materials, but there is no reason it can't be expanded to include partial materials and software art too (wallpapers, themes etc). It's PHP so that counts against it, but then most of these websites are PHP too so it's a devil of a thing in all cases because we can't share code with the loco directory or other python based ubuntu sites. Thoughts? Martin, -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Announcing Impression GTK Unity
Hello everyone, The Impression GTK themes are now available for Unity from the Wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/ImpressionGtkThemes Screen shots are available from projBlog. http://www.projblog.com/?p=1988 Cheers, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: Please check my thinking on bug 646979
On Oct 05, 2010, at 09:16 AM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: I've been thinking about it, and I'm pretty confident that what you are trying to do is inherently criss-cross. Specifically consider a semi-ideal case: This is all fascinating, and while I have nothing constructive to add, I wonder: does it make life any easier if you were only considering the debian/ directory? I'm not sure that's even possible or desirable, but it seems like that would at least take upstream out of the picture. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Re: Please check my thinking on bug 646979
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Oct 05, 2010, at 09:37 AM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: Now, I would imagine that the *interesting* merges are not clean like this. Why would you really care about merging if debian isn't adding patches to the upstream code? (Other than procedurally being the right thing to do, it doesn't seem *interesting*.) Won't all the patches Debian (or Ubuntu) adds be in patch system files living in debian/? Of course, the looms-patchsystem idea kind of blurs that, but ultimately the packaging directory should fully contain any downstream changes Ubuntu or Debian would add. (I think. ;) - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMqzsgAAoJEBJutWOnSwa/ukMP/0UINcLP07Q3B61re6TnyEu4 1tDQJDHHAoZMnSTX/VpoRtxU6txhRuxEYKDdUZNQ2SGTC4pFlp4KZzy8tOrwanCO jK+r4ohzoh/k7VTLvdX4y6IuMm2r7q7XNX5vvt/HeeDQUreDJp6BwwXpmZSVs+gw 6eI2ZtWioeNHa+enaY99thfYcECPKkJf1M1SPy7V5lDCj1hngxhvQo3SnlWBfOIs ljOOAa1QLKJ/YP++/1KPcLsA8fr5RJwAcKuYxTZclS4NPBsfKdOc1s+h2JeCtOiW WhTl79MBcudmlBXae4vC57t4iwCL8vPQHjrN9/6SJl/AeQyX2+h2JMm01njUM0aU ekaaXepRQ5h47vgRjdMOJkckwO+WJlSFxXpqBxrsS8RW7d1Kfch5L5RSHPpUgotf P7cuvTmjhGL0ybnfBMI5786BmGH9iN8MTaSOmTAFEISWXQoE8hGqWEfffGpyP4oP GLYUkQamH91VWkDCbbecRhvjsdsEk2xLTVx4kkgM6HmJrBdDxQIghziUf8z2Syb0 yJ/Wr/owqmCuiFVLeIMzQMFudUPAkWHVCBE2amVsiz4ohMaehUOr5kg9gfZzIhiR 9uCmYa78Dr7Wkii/ND1WAlF9JzTdORjbyjnLOJLx+CfS/xi50wxAlHqbUhBxySRq efRwBfVQGSOrdTg8mmEI =RZPy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
Just a follow up to my previous comment, both the strings are translated in launchpad, just not yet packaged in gnome-applets. -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
Re: [Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
El dv 01 de 10 de 2010 a les 08:27 +, en/na Kazade va escriure: Just a follow up to my previous comment, both the strings are translated in launchpad, just not yet packaged in gnome-applets. We're starting to build the final language packs today, so they should be there in a few days and include all the new translations. If after you've updated to the latest language packs you still see any remaining Deleted Items or Wastebasket instances, please report back and let's investigate where they come from. Thanks! -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
I would suggest *against* adding the for this. Menu items are not about forming grammatically correct complete sentences. HIG specifies not to overuse these http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp- style-guide/stable/grammar.html.en Also, no other menu items use the/a unnecessarily. Eg: nautilus File menu is Create Folder , Create Document. and everywhere else in all applications it is the same pattern. Adding the here would mean bringing in a new inconsistency. But, if the British think they invented English, then... Oh! wait! :-) -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
** Also affects: transmission (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: transmission (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators (ubuntu-l10n-en-gb) -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
Thanks David for the update and thanks to everyone who has worked on this! Hope we have caught every translation and that the updates come through soon :). -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
** Changed in: transmission (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: transmission (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
To be fair I think the inconsistency with the the came about when I was translating all of the original texts to Rubbish bin I kept a the when it was a wordy text such Do you wish to send this to the Rubbish Bin where as if it was an action/command Send to Rubbish Bin I missed out the the. Could be my East London dialect that makes that sound OK without the the? I guess this means I aggree with Vish as he is talking mainly of the menu items (i.e. actions/commands). Michael -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
In US english it is Open Trash and Empty Trash , there is no the , why does UK English need extra the ? -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
OK, I think my reference to the gnome HIG is a bit unfair over this issue :-) [maybe a side-effect of replying at 3am on a Sat night :p ] Because HIG is basically how the _default_ language style needs to be written in Gnome UI and the default language is US English. So everything else is just based accordingly there. As popey mentioned, the translations need to adapt to the locale. The local translators need to decide which sounds more apt for their locale and they weigh in on the benefits. My non-locale view on this is that, this change *is* bringing in new inconsistent to the items from the rest of the system menus. However, the UK translators/users might find this an absolutely necessary change to make. If so, this needs to be done elsewhere too, to maintain a consistent UI. Kindly make the necessary changes elsewhere too. Mostly, everwhere in HIG there is a reference of keeping labels short and for clear, consistent and concise labelling. http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/language-labels.html.en http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-standard.html.en Find Next, Find Previous , From FIle... , Add Bookmark , Edit Bookmarks , need to be changed More items listed at : http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-design.html.en http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-style-guide/stable/menu-terminology.html.en http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus.html.en This bug is about the inconsistent naming of wastebasket and Deleted items, and was fixed when popey confirmed with screenshot in comment #90, beyond which we have piggy-backed on this bug with another issue. Marking this bug as fixed, while the change to add the/a/an can be discussed in a new a bug for all menu items. Thanks everyone for getting this fixed! :-) ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released ** Changed in: gnome-applets Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released ** Changed in: gnome-applets (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released ** Changed in: gvfs Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released ** Changed in: nautilus Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released ** Changed in: ubuntu-translations Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
Hi everyone, Thanks to everyone participating in the discussions and applying the fixes, the original bug about inconsistent naming is now fixed. Good work! For any remaining issues such as the need to add an article to the actions related to the Rubbish Bin, I'd recommend using the British translators mailing list, which is a more appropriate forum for such discussions. Once agreement has been reached, you can modify the strings in Launchpad if necessary, and they will be picked up in the next round of stable release language pack updates, a few weeks after release. Thanks! -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
The problem is that, Sent to Rubbish Bin and Empty Rubbish Bin sound disjointed and robotic. It's not fair to compare it to trash because Trash is what what goes in the bin (e.g. Empty Rubbish sounds OK). Empty Rubbish Bin is understandable, it's just ugly. -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Assignee: Ubuntu Documentation Project Team (ubuntu-doc) = (unassigned) -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
I've added suggested translations in Launchpad including the missing the in gnome-applets and there is already an existing one in Nautilus (for the button that appears when you view the rubbish bin). I don't have magic translation review powers so I can only suggest the change, can someone go in and review it? -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 406626] Re: Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation
I concur with Vish: for menu items, the determiner 'the' should typically be omitted. Here's a list of standard menus and menu items: http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-standard.html.en None of the menu items listed contain determiners. -- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406626 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators, which is a bug assignee. -- Ubuntu-l10n-eng mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation
Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 36, Issue 1
On 02/10/10 03:04, Sujith S wrote: Hi Friends, I am new to Ubuntu testing community.My name is Sujith S.I have been using ubuntu for past 8 months. I am very much intrested to be a part of Ubuntu Testing team.I am actually working in the field of testing so I think I can contribute in this area. I would like to get advises on this ?Where can I start ? Hello Sujith, welcome! Please, have a look to our testing page [1], where you have information about our open projects and our regular activities. Let us know if you need more information. Thanks! Ara. [1] http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/ -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all! Just a quick reminder that tomorrow, the 6th of October, we are having a regular QA meeting at 17:00 UTC at #ubuntu-quality. Chair will be charlie-tca. Agenda, so far, looks like this: * review previous action items (all) * Maverick Final ISO testing status -- ara * SRU testing -- jibel * Bug Day status -- pedro_ * Maverick Blueprints Status -- marjo * Selection of new chair -- charlie-tca Please, add your agenda items, as usual, at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings Thanks, - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMq2iBAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAKpIH/2qparw7ofd725o4PBNQvsPt xglaLAQ8fbzYyMjc3CC8XLQy++fTPvBNk/ZpwOqFb1PMnTT9vmVCtrYFnQ7z+J7z r5cEdvVndx+3xETB0bz1sMM6qddHf8G/hxOde45Dp5Gs2WWEhIgt+p7j7znnU+ry qmVFSl9LUw6KgZGI8ke+Es2XN1tvAM2Zi/evdJko9NnMTtpzliv1wAgqK6uQKCZw zkcjGGHXPETw/QE7xRSYmFSc73fhqqhef1Kw5EyK+1ErKAAywSXITL4BSoix9ZZA fcyAHnFpKjN4xHJqblt1eK5ANS2Fk3QxITlVkkjEbfjcT5tnrRcnWStPAsKuy8Y= =64yE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Frist of all i cant veryfie that pgp signature and dont know why. probably forgot soething. lol Second. Ill be absent on that meeting also Sorry Greetings Sulumar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.8) iF4EAREIAAYFAkyrktMACgkQ3J5GZZ/GIAQhswD/Wr/QmA01ZlYwwMIWnZeWmTgl 5ydGtW1RsJUzsvj6B8kBAKhH7kLwi0KTIfj/ffSccL/sAqZgOacRIU9xhNYJod8D =yraR -END PGP SIGNATURE- 2010/10/5 Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.com -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:04:45PM +0200, Sulu Mayer wrote: Frist of all i cant veryfie that pgp signature and dont know why. probably forgot soething. lol It verified here just fine, how is it failing for you? Do note that firegpg, which you appear to be using, has been discontinued due to the author's inability to cope with the frequent changes to the gmail interface; see http://blog.getfiregpg.org/2010/06/07/firegpg-discontinued/ for more info. Sorry you can't make the meeting. Thanks. -- Steve Beattie sbeat...@ubuntu.com http://NxNW.org/~steve/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: New member to Ubuntu testing
You probably want to read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam Then go here to get started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing 2010/10/4 Sujith S sujith...@gmail.com: Hi , My name is Sujith S.I have been using ubuntu for past 6months and I am now very much intrested ubuntu testing team. Kindly give me the advises by giving me where can I start contributing ? -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- --- Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Open Standards! -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu not booting up
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote: From: Shubham Chakraborty s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com I have been using ubuntu for about two years now. But recently after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04 I have suffered from the biggest problem faced. It doesn't boot up. It shows the ubuntu logo and then after around three minutes it shows that UUID path not found. Then the laptop goes off. I have a lot of data in my ubuntu drive and can't afford to re-install as my laptop has only two partitions one windows and one ubuntu. Kindly help. The data wont get affected unless you decide to reformat. Not so if the OP says he has one partition for Ubuntu and another for Win XP then there is great risk of losing data during reinstallation If there is one Ubuntu partition it means everything is inside it - means just one / (/root) partition which contains /boot / (root) /home /var /etc etc etc basically everything. So no don't go in for a reinstall till you recover your data. If you have a Live CD/USB of Ubuntu, boot up using that and reinstall Grub. Google for Reinstalling Grub in Ubuntu 10.04 and follow the instructions. do as above. 1. If you data is very important then after booting from a live cd find you home (where you data should be) and transfer it to an external disk. 2. This UUID problem seems to be a constant one and sometimes the solution works sometimes it does not - am assuming that while trying to boot you get redirected to a shell with a terminal prompt. There may / should be a message saying press Control+d to continue to a normal mode. If this is the case then then control+d will not work until you enter a blank atleast two times. Basically at the prompt enter enter twice. Then press Control+D and the system should start up normally. This happens when the upgraded system does not recognize a partition by its UUID Again to irritatingly reiterate - first get your data out and then do any recovery. And next time you install Ubuntu make sure you have a separate /home it really helps when the system gets messed up ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] sudo user on Fedora
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:13 PM, g...@sarai.net g...@sarai.net wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 23:05:00 +0530 Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote How We can create settings to that user will become sudo user. I know this procedure. http://lug-iitd.org/Shell_Scripts#SUDO How ubuntu manage to do it automatically. [...] What is wrong with the above procedure? I want some permanent solution that if I create a new user, it will be given sudo power. Ubuntu probably does the same thing behind the scenes, or maybe it just adds the default user at install time to the admin group, as /etc/sudoers has: # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL Thanks, I will try it. Regards, Gora -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
Hi have been trying to install epson 4490 Photo Perfection scanner on Ubuntu 9.10 for quite a while now and have used the following web sources to help. 1.HowTo: Epson Scanners - Ubuntu Forums. at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154178http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154178%3E 2.NOTES FROM INSTALLING ubuntu LINUX 7.04 / 7.10 / 8.04 / 9.04 / 10.04. at http://computer-bob.home.mindspring.com/ubuntu_install_notes.htmlhttp://computer-bob.home.mindspring.com/ubuntu_install_notes.html%3E 3.Download Scanner | AVASYS CORPORATION. at http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL2.dohttp://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL2.do%3E 4.[ubuntu] Epson 4180 not working in Ubuntu 9.10 - Ubuntu Forums. at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8518755http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8518755%3E 5.Bug #217567 in xsane (Ubuntu): “Epson Perfection 4490 PHOTO”. at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bug/217567https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bug/217567%3E 6.How to install VueScan Epson Perfection 4490 Photo scanner on an IA32 machine on Ubuntu 9.10 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! at http://www.flickr.com/photos/res2000/4290535521/http://www.flickr.com/photos/res2000/4290535521/%3E *** all of them redirect me to download 2 files from AVASYS (ref 3) and in particular one file * iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb which whatever i do i cannot find any help with this would be much appreciated, rather any help with setting up this device would be appreciated ram * -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu not booting up
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shubham Chakraborty s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com The data wont get affected unless you decide to reformat. Not so if the OP says he has one partition for Ubuntu and another for Win XP then there is great risk of losing data during reinstallation If there is one Ubuntu partition it means everything is inside it - means just one / (/root) partition which contains /boot / (root) /home /var /etc etc etc basically everything. So no don't go in for a reinstall till you recover your data. If you have a Live CD/USB of Ubuntu, boot up using that and reinstall Grub. Google for Reinstalling Grub in Ubuntu 10.04 and follow the instructions. do as above. 1. If you data is very important then after booting from a live cd find you home (where you data should be) and transfer it to an external disk. 2. This UUID problem seems to be a constant one and sometimes the solution works sometimes it does not - am assuming that while trying to boot you get redirected to a shell with a terminal prompt. There may / should be a message saying press Control+d to continue to a normal mode. If this is the case then then control+d will not work until you enter a blank atleast two times. Basically at the prompt enter enter twice. Then press Control+D and the system should start up normally. This happens when the upgraded system does not recognize a partition by its UUID Again to irritatingly reiterate - first get your data out and then do any recovery. And next time you install Ubuntu make sure you have a separate /home it really helps when the system gets messed up ram I only asked the OP to reinstall grub, so no data risk. OR Am i mistaken. I also said there is a risk to data if you reformat. should have added reinstall, but assumed OP understood. MY bad. And yes, as with any repair /trouble shooting, backing up data should be done before anything else is attempted. And as Ram has suggested, please have a separate /home when you reinstall. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu not booting up
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shubham Chakraborty s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com The data wont get affected unless you decide to reformat. Not so my mistake in reading, could blame it on being dyslexic, but that isn't true just did not read it properly. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] sudo user on Fedora
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I want some permanent solution that if I create a new user, it will be given sudo power. Whats the issue with using adduser command or using visudo and editing the sudoers file? -- A -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
Have no solution to offer as you seem to have tried all options, but just a Q: Do you use it to scan a lot of Slides/negatives. Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] sudo user on Fedora
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: How We can create settings to that user will become sudo user. I know this procedure. http://lug-iitd.org/Shell_Scripts#SUDO How ubuntu manage to do it automatically. Not all the users have sudo access. The first user has the access but the users created henceforth do not have the access by default. You have to add them to the admin group. See this: $ id uid=1001(guest) gid=1001(guest) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),121(nopasswdlogin),1001(guest) $ groups guest adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape dip video plugdev fuse nopasswdlogin $ sudo su - [sudo] password for guest: guest is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. -- With Regards, Mehul Ved -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote: Have no solution to offer as you seem to have tried all options, but just a Q: Do you use it to scan a lot of Slides/negatives. the reason i bought it was that it was a linux compatible slide / negative scanner , have never been able to get it to work on Ubuntu and desperately want it to work (on Ubuntu) so we can have a free system ram Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: the reason i bought it was that it was a linux compatible slide / negative scanner , have never been able to get it to work on Ubuntu and desperately want it to work (on Ubuntu) so we can have a free system Sorry. Follow up Q. How much did it cost and what is the quality of the scan (slide/negative) in which ever OS it has worked? The reason i am asking is, i have a Film SLR that i am not using, because of the cost of film+developing+printing factor when compared to a DSLR (which i cant afford ATM). I know a DSLR is a long term solution and a scanner cant be, but an idea. Sorry once gain for the OT. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: the reason i bought it was that it was a linux compatible slide / negative scanner , have never been able to get it to work on Ubuntu and desperately want it to work (on Ubuntu) so we can have a free system Sorry. Follow up Q. How much did it cost and what is the quality of the scan (slide/negative) in which ever OS it has worked? The reason i am asking is, i have a Film SLR that i am not using, because of the cost of film+developing+printing factor when compared to a DSLR (which i cant afford ATM). I know a DSLR is a long term solution and a scanner cant be, but an idea. Sorry once gain for the OT. It works well under windows (having used it for pictures, film negatives, film positives ) and Mac, and is supposed to work under Ubuntu as well. It cost about 17 K - it also has an option for an ADF (again unique in its range of activities) As a solution for a replacement for a DSLR - no its not worth it - if you add the cost of film and processing + time + turn around time for processing then its *definitely* not worth it. However to convert legacy stuff and as a general high quality scanner it is worth it, and if one can invest in the adf then wow (the adf costs as much as the scanner) ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: It works well under windows (having used it for pictures, film negatives, film positives ) and Mac, and is supposed to work under Ubuntu as well. It cost about 17 K - it also has an option for an ADF (again unique in its range of activities) As a solution for a replacement for a DSLR - no its not worth it - if you add the cost of film and processing + time + turn around time for processing then its *definitely* not worth it. However to convert legacy stuff and as a general high quality scanner it is worth it, and if one can invest in the adf then wow (the adf costs as much as the scanner) Thanks. At 17K definitely not. A few more K and I can have my DSLR. But the ADF is cool. For someone who does a lot, to kill for at that price. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. At 17K definitely not. A few more K and I can have my DSLR. But the ADF is cool. For someone who does a lot, to kill for at that price. the adf is an additional 17 k (haven't got that though) however the combination of features on the epson 4490 make it unbeatable there is no scanner - atleast a the time we bought it 3 years back that had this set of features and which was supposed to work on Linux (the last part has not yet happened though) ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
Hi Ram Please try this link http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do GANESAN VENKAT SUBRAMANIAN Registered Linux user #409047 'I am what I am because of who we all are' On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: *iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb * -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ganesan Venkata Subramanian chickoo.i...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ram Please try this link http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do whatver deb / ubuntu combination i use i cannot get the said file * iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb* the epson model is 4490 - try it and see if you can find the file - am a bit pixxed because all the help files say download this file but not one of the links lead to the file ram GANESAN VENKAT SUBRAMANIAN Registered Linux user #409047 'I am what I am because of who we all are' On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing Epson Scanner 4490 on Ubuntu 9.10
Hi Ram Please try this link http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL2.do GANESAN VENKAT SUBRAMANIAN Registered Linux user #409047 'I am what I am because of who we all are' On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ganesan Venkata Subramanian chickoo.i...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ram Please try this link http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do whatver deb / ubuntu combination i use i cannot get the said file * iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb* the epson model is 4490 - try it and see if you can find the file - am a bit pixxed because all the help files say download this file but not one of the links lead to the file ram GANESAN VENKAT SUBRAMANIAN Registered Linux user #409047 'I am what I am because of who we all are' On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: iscan-plugin-gt-x750_2.1.0-5_i386.deb -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Android and Ubuntu
Personnellement je ne suis pas fan des UI, mais c'est vraiment une question de point de vue. Le galaxy a plus de mémoire, a un écran plus résistant et un nouveau processeur (mais même vitesse). Concrètement, c'est pas mal la même chose. Ceci dit, le Nexus sera le premier à recevoir les updates et il y aura une communauté de hackers pour le maintenir pour encore longtemps. En résumé : * Nexus One : Maintenance la plus HOT, grosse communauté * Galaxy : UI plus belle, un peu plus neuf, moins de maintenance. * Les deux sont de très bons produits. Rémi Menegon, Ing. Jr M.Ing Student / VE2FIW Phone: +1.514.638.2486 Le 2010-10-05 17:04, Dominic Marcotte a écrit : Pourquoi le Galaxy S plutôt que le Nexus One? Et quelle est la différence entre le Nexus One et le UI sense? Est-ce que les UI sense sont vraiment plus « friendly user »? Dominic On 10-10-01 09:54 AM, FireWave wrote: Pareil, Nexus One. Je te conseille le Galaxy S de Rogers ou Bell, c'est un bon produit. Rémi Menegon, Ing. Jr M.Ing Student / VE2FIW Phone: +1.514.638.2486 Le 2010-10-01 09:49, Marc Deslauriers a écrit : On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 09:38 -0400, Martin Gamache wrote: - Est-ce qu'on peut synchroniser n'importe quel téléphone Android avec Evolution via Multisync? Je n'ai jamais essayé avec Multisync, par contre Android sync nativement avec les contacts et le calendrier gmail. Evolution te permets également d'utiliser les contacts et le calendrier gmail, alors c'est ce que j'utilise pour l'instant. Multisync m'intéresserait par contre si quelqu'un sait si ça marche. - Quel téléphone préférez-vous? Présentement, je regarde pour le Sony Experia X10 ou le Samsung galaxy S... Moi j'ai une Nexus One que _j'adore_. Marc. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Android and Ubuntu
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39050603,62200389,00.htm http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39050603,62200389,00.htm But at CTIA in the US early this year, Samsung revealed that the chip is capable of processing 90 million triangles per second, thanks to the PowerVR SGX 3D graphics engine. In comparison, the 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor used in devices such as the HTC Desirehttp://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051199,45209139p,00.htm and Google Nexus Onehttp://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051199,45181460p,00.htm does up to 22 million triangles per second. Désoler pour l'anglais! je suis pressé... --- Michael Faille Étudiant au baccalauréat en génie des technologies de l'information Université du Québec - École de technologie supérieure, Montréal (Québec) Responsable TI du club étudiant CAPRA -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
all, this is the screen i get everytime i startup... GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using 1,97 of grub...I only know this coz its displayed on the screen I'm stuck on... Can't get passed this screen to get to synaptic or terminal... On 4 Oct 2010 21:03, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 4 October 2010 20:16, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Ok booted upwhat next please? ... Sorry for the delay, I had to do some research on Grub1. :-) What version of grub are you running? That's the program that is displaying the boot menu. You can look in Synaptic and search for 'grub', or type 'dpkg --list grub' in a terminal - if this is installed the last line shown will start 'ii'. If the 'grub' package is installed, that's Grub1. Otherwise you're using Grub2 (which probably has a version number of 1.97 or 1.98). For Grub1, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (that's LST in lower case), and 'uncomment' the 'hiddenmenu' option. IIRC, it will currently have 2 # marks at the front of the line, change it to just 1. For Grub2 you need to edit /etc/default/grub, and you need to look for the GRUB_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT values. GRUB_TIMEOUT should be set to 0 (zero). GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT should be set to a value between zero and about 2. Whichever file you are editing, you will need to have root permission to edit it (try Alt-F2, then type 'gksu gedit filename' without the quotes and replacing the filename for the relevant version of Grub). If you get stuck, let us know. Cofion, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wi... -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote: all, this is the screen i get everytime i startup... GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200 Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
i get a screen which flashes with weird graphics. Like from an 80's video game. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote: all, this is the screen i get everytime i startup... GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200 Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 4 October 2010 21:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art capability as well as many other features. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeod bhalt...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 October 2010 21:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art capability as well as many other features. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
you said you fidled with the usb settings, could you be a little more specific On 5 October 2010 09:25, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i get a screen which flashes with weird graphics. Like from an 80's video game. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote: all, this is the screen i get everytime i startup... GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200 Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
i changed the Usb keyboard settings from OS to bios.! On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.comwrote: you said you fidled with the usb settings, could you be a little more specific On 5 October 2010 09:25, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i get a screen which flashes with weird graphics. Like from an 80's video game. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: On 05/10/10 08:59, javadayaz wrote: all, this is the screen i get everytime i startup... GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4 Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (/dev/sdc1) Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-19-generic (recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200 Okay so what happens when you select say Linux Mint 8 Helena, Linux 2.6.31-22-generic (/dev/sdc1)? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
This is the kind of issue that local LUG meets are really good at solving. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
are there any other options? what was the setting called? On 5 October 2010 12:47, Dan Attwood danattw...@gmail.com wrote: This is the kind of issue that local LUG meets are really good at solving. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
unfortunately i cant recallbut it was under uSB periprels...or something similiar! On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.comwrote: are there any other options? what was the setting called? On 5 October 2010 12:47, Dan Attwood danattw...@gmail.com wrote: This is the kind of issue that local LUG meets are really good at solving. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 05/10/10 12:33, Jacob Mansfield wrote: rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeodbhalt...@gmail.com wrote: Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art capability as well as many other features. -- I know, I use Banshee and although it crashes about once a month it's as reliable as anything else and pretty fast (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). I'm not crazy about Rhythmbox but it works OK. I tried Songbird a couple of years ago, it was fast but very buggy - if it's better now, I'll give it another go. I used to use gmusicbrowser a couple of years ago because I have a huge music library and everything else was hopelessly slow ( I set up Amarok with a mysql back end once but it was still not great). But Banshee is pretty nifty these days and since gmusicbrowser's interface is clunky and annoying I've switched back to Banshee. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of music On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On 05/10/10 12:33, Jacob Mansfield wrote: rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeod bhalt...@gmail.com bhalt...@gmail.com wrote: Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art capability as well as many other features. -- I know, I use Banshee and although it crashes about once a month it's as reliable as anything else and pretty fast (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). I'm not crazy about Rhythmbox but it works OK. I tried Songbird a couple of years ago, it was fast but very buggy - if it's better now, I'll give it another go. I used to use gmusicbrowser a couple of years ago because I have a huge music library and everything else was hopelessly slow ( I set up Amarok with a mysql back end once but it was still not great). But Banshee is pretty nifty these days and since gmusicbrowser's interface is clunky and annoying I've switched back to Banshee. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of music What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for the crash? I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a result. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
You can set amarok to just scan a whole folder tree. It automatically finds new files added there. Anton - Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 4 Oct 2010 21:27, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds On 4 October 2010 21:21, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and it should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as files than let a tool do it for me) Anton - Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 16:45, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: before I loaded the majority of my music into it, it ran fine Run it from a terminal and see what error you get? Perhaps there's a bug filed, if not, you could file one. Happy to help you file a bug if you're not familiar with it. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). There's your answer -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
Most music players just show the location of a music file as stored in a database, not the music file itself. It shouldn't be the size of your library, but could possibly its location or more likely locations. Simon On 5 Oct 2010 16:33, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: banshee crashes every 10 se... What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for the crash? I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a result. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
I'm reading from the file size according to ls after banshee duplicated most of my files On 5 October 2010 17:03, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: Most music players just show the location of a music file as stored in a database, not the music file itself. It shouldn't be the size of your library, but could possibly its location or more likely locations. Simon On 5 Oct 2010 16:33, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: banshee crashes every 10 se... What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for the crash? I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a result. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Symlinking to USB hard drives
On 04/10/10 20:25, Neil Greenwood wrote: Hi all, I have a couple of matched USB hard drives that I use as part of my backup strategy. At the moment they both have the same label, so they end up mounted at /media/backup. But this means I can't easily tell which drive is which, and when I plug the second in, it gets mounted at /media/backup_. I'd like to re-label the drives to backup1 and backup2, but then have a symlink automatically created at /media/backup to whichever drive was first plugged in. I think I need to use a udev rule, but other than that I'm not sure. Does anyone have any ideas? Hi Neil, You can rename partitions in parted or gparted, which should sort it out for you. Then in your backup script, put something like: if test -d /mounts/backup1 do ln -s /mounts/backup1 /mounts/backup elif test -d /mounts/backup2 do ln -s /mounts backup2 /mounts/backup else print neither backup mount point exists, exiting; exit 1 Does that make sense? Best, Glen -- Glen Mehn glen.m...@oba.co.uk skype: glenmehn | blog: http://glen.mehn.net/mba UK: +44(0)7942 675 755 | US: +1 415 704 4737 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Symlinking to USB hard drives
I use devices by id in my fstab to have unique mount points. Have a browse through /dev/ when the disk is connected Anton - Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 5 Oct 2010 18:55, Glen Mehn glen.m...@oba.co.uk wrote: On 04/10/10 20:25, Neil Greenwood wrote: Hi all, I have a couple of matched USB hard drives that I use as part of my backup strategy. At the moment they both have the same label, so they end up mounted at /media/backup. But this means I can't easily tell which drive is which, and when I plug the second in, it gets mounted at /media/backup_. I'd like to re-label the drives to backup1 and backup2, but then have a symlink automatically created at /media/backup to whichever drive was first plugged in. I think I need to use a udev rule, but other than that I'm not sure. Does anyone have any ideas? Hi Neil, You can rename partitions in parted or gparted, which should sort it out for you. Then in your backup script, put something like: if test -d /mounts/backup1 do ln -s /mounts/backup1 /mounts/backup elif test -d /mounts/backup2 do ln -s /mounts backup2 /mounts/backup else print neither backup mount point exists, exiting; exit 1 Does that make sense? Best, Glen -- Glen Mehn glen.m...@oba.co.uk skype: glenmehn | blog: http://glen.mehn.net/mba UK: +44(0)7942 675 755 | US: +1 415 704 4737 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
Anyone? I still can't get in..what to do? unfortunately i cant recallbut it was under uSB periprels...or something similiar! On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: are there any other options? what was the setting called? On 5 October 2010 12:47, Dan Attwood danattw...@gmail.com wrote: This is the kind of issue that local LUG meets are really good at solving. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound effects ....
songbird has a pretty good start latency On 5 October 2010 21:22, Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote: On 4 October 2010 16:07, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 4 October 2010 15:58, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: Just spent a long time searching through fora with no result. I want to play mp3's of stage sound effects and music tracks. The problem is that they have to be on cue. I'm also interested in an application to do this. Not seen anything on Ubuntu. Probably not quite ideal, but mixxx does a reasonable job of this (it's a digital DJ app). As far as I can tell you can only load 2 tracks at once, but it's easy to create playlists to queue up your other sound effects. It can be configured to use either JACK or ALSA, and its ALSA driver works fine with pulseaudio. -- Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound effects ....
Something like this? http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Soundboard-Maker-Download-13664.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
Just an update to all this..when I run livecd...it will let me choose an option...but then the cd loads and the pc shuts down..and restarts! On 5 October 2010 20:02, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone? I still can't get in..what to do? I don't know anything about Linux Mint, so can't help I'm afraid. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
Hi Takashi, On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jp wrote: Hi Scott, In this kind of work, the screenshot is more powerful to give our opinion than some comments. Would you please look at the screenshot I attached? Ive let your message through this time, but in future, please link to screenshots or pictures, not attach them. For other guidelines for mailing lists, please see: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists Jussi. 0.scott_grid_analyze.png I think this mocup has much information in a first browser screen and a bit difficult to get the informations to need. Then I re-align some components which you made and put some shots from current ubuntustudio.com. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/Mocchi?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=1.takashi_modified.png I change the logo to Cory K.'s Ideas because I want to put the COF circle's color as key color. This is the Grid-Analyzxe. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/Mocchi?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=2.takashi_grid_analyze.png I put some basic and most needed information in the top. And I put much text information to bottom. This layout will be good for several kind of users, both newcomer and elder. What I mean is not pushing my design but I prefer your mocup to current ubuntustudio.com design. It's simple and easy to wathch. But there is not so many information... If you need my help and work, I have some time to help you till this weekend. I can uunderstand and use the W3C's specification for (X)HTML, CSS 2.0, JavaScript(ECMA Script), PHP 4 and 5. I'm willing to help you with drupal if we share the basic source like MySQL data or theme templates and so on. It'S a pretty sad that I usually use the other engines. Cheers! Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jp (2010年10月04日 07:07), Scott Lavender wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Turner passionsplaydes...@gmail.com mailto:passionsplaydes...@gmail.com wrote: I would second not throwing out any concepts right off the bat. I think though that perhaps we should redirect where this thread is going. Before we get down to eliminating or zeroing in on any 'theme' we should really take a hard look as to how we want this website to function for the Ubuntu Studio community. I'd like to try and summarize some things: The current site at ubuntustudio.org http://ubuntustudio.org/ is a brochure site - it is very simple, and establishes a sort of creative vibe- all the while smacking you in the face with DOWNLOAD -- 1 2 3! This is exactly what we (traditionally) want the visitor to do - try THIS distro. I took some time to whip up sitemap for the existing site, and also one for the eventual 'revamped' one, using the elements that we have going on the wiki. In addition, I worked a wireframe over a screenshot of the original site. What becomes apparent to me while looking over these site maps is that people are brainstorming for a much more dynamic (and complicated) website, one that begins to blur the lines between the wiki, the forums, and the website, perhaps taking on aspects of a social networking site (I'm thinking specifically about the submissions, polls, and other things that would require someone to create a profile). But do we have the energy/time/skill? I think that many of these things sound cool. I would ask ourselves if we (and future users/contributors) will have the energy to create and maintain one MORE online persona. Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps this 'social connection' role could be filled by other existing sites? I'm thinking about the deviantART and Flikr user groups for inkscape. Are there other sites out there that could facilitate the creation of Music Creation Communities? To put it another way, do we have people here wanting to code and maintain that sort of community in relation to the Ubuntu Studio Website? Where are we going? In the end I feel we should more clearly describe where Ubuntu Studio is moving, and how we envision using it, and by extension, how we will use the website. For me I first came to Ubuntu Studio because it was built on the back of Ubuntu's Gnome install, but with an eye to a more specialized and 'professional' grade of computer user. This being said, there are still a few other applications I install that are not included in the base installation (Who doesn't?) I can see the Ubuntu Studio project becoming a nexus of creative energy. Taking the best things out there, and making them work well together, all the while documenting the processes, and making it easy for new users (both to Linux, AND to art creation) to create high quality digital art creations. Let me know if this resonates with anyone. Where do others see our
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Hi, 2010/10/4 ailo ailo...@gmail.com: I'm on Ubuntu Maverick 64 bit, nvidia 7025 integrated graphics. Which version of nvidia drivers you would want use? Thanks. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:27:02AM EST, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? Of course I'd prefer realtime/rt, however the truth of the matter is that keeping up with patches, and keeping the kernel versions in sync for any one Ubuntu release is very difficult. For this reason, I'd favour the lowlatency kernel, as it would be easier to maintain, given its only configuration changes, and would be easier to get into Ubuntu, and maintain it, keeping in sync with the Ubuntu release kernel version. How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? I'm happy to help maintain the low latency kernel, i.e using the Ubuntu release kernel git tree as a base, and making our own changes on top, and rebasing on the Ubuntu kernel for fixes. Can help get it into universe, and maintain it there. Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? With the low latency kernel, I would be happy to support it for every Ubuntu release where it is in the archive. Luke -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Logo Designs
hi all, i am honki from taiwan. i also try to design logo of ubuntu studio. if you have any idea, can tell me. logo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/5053852596/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/5053852596/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4808479623/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4808479623/about ubuntu: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157623970936653/ thx honki 2010/10/1 Brian David beej...@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Marc R.J. Brevoort m...@dnd.utwente.nlwrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Cory K. wrote: I think the grey/blue contrast in the first images doesn't work very well- the second one being a bit better due to the black outline. I like the N and T flowing into each other- I'd keep them the same colour to enhance the effect. I like the big logo in the third picture- in the versions with the smaller logo, the logo seems a bit out of place due to the way it's aligned with the text. Overall I think Brian's version looks the most pro (We all love gradients and rounded corners! Fortunately, they're not too over-the-top). I don't get why two words in the slogan need a different shade but that's probaby just me going whoosh!. It's a bit loud image though- ...And more! Download NOW (or else)! I'll crawl back into my shell now... Best, Marc The loudness was, to an extent, a bit of a joke. Since I was throwing in the text mostly as a placeholder, I couldn't help but get a little sarcastic (thus the . . .and more!). :) Looking at it now, I agree with your assessment of the highlighted words. I'll go back and make those uniform. Also, I think your remark about the gradients and rounded-corners hints a good point: it is the type of thing that gets done a lot. I'll see what other variations I can come up with that are based on the same basic idea, but maybe a little less Web-2.0-ish. It's always good to have options! -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
David, 2010/10/5 David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com: [...] great that you want to manage these kernels! I have always managed -rt kernels in Ubuntu since Feisty Until Maverick where I have gave up for personal reasons. I'm mostly curious about -lowlatency, but unfortunately I haven't got around to test it. I think -preempt is a server kernel? Could you also say that -lowlatency is the desktop version of -preempt? I don't know much about -preempt. A low latency kernel in server context make little sense to me at least. Is there a difference between -rt and -realtime, except that your -realtime seems more updated than -rt? Do you think we should replace the official linux-rt, with your linux-realtime? Few minutes ago I replied to Laurent about that. closely until now, so I'd also like to ask you - do you feel you have the support you need from the kernel-team's side for maintaining these kernels? Really I don't understand what you mean with feel. In any case I avoid to reply on this answer because I don't want start a flame. [...] I think we need to have it for every release, to get the best possible testing and quality of these kernels. If that's possible? The time of one-man-kernel-made is finished. So if people want the real time kernel they should help. Please reply only if you want help. Just to clarify, did you mean if you need help (you help me) or if you want to help (I help you) ? I don't need help unless you want offer me a serious job. Real time kernel need help. All -rt kernels have always worked well on my old laptop also the infamous Intrepid and Jaunty releases. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Fwd: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
-- Forwarded message -- From: Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.com Date: 2010/10/5 Subject: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Hi, I really need of someone could take care of a little wiki page about all real time kernels (differences, reasons, TODO, list of volunteers, packing status and so on). In this way new comers could find reply to their questions. Moreover a bit of interest exist for video closed drivers. Is there a volunteer to handle DKMS packages? I could provide all relevant code which fix compatibility with real time kernels but I don't enough time to handle uploading that code (that is sending patch to nvidia or fglrx Ubuntu maintainer or upload a fix package to PPA). In this way we could support closed video drivers and in general all DKMS base drivers. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
On 10/05/2010 09:16 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: Hi, 2010/10/4 ailoailo...@gmail.com: I'm on Ubuntu Maverick 64 bit, nvidia 7025 integrated graphics. Which version of nvidia drivers you would want use? Thanks. Ciao, Alessio You mean nouveau or nvidia-current? I prefer nvidia-current. I suppose there are few occasions when both realtime and 3d graphics are needed at the same. Perhaps when doing live-music and graphics from the same machine? My experience with karmic (puredyne) and -rt was very positive when it comes to stability and performance. As long as it is safe, I prefer nvidia-current support. I have one bad experience from -rt, when two of my hard disks died at the same time. This was last year, with Centos and planet ccrma installed. Old hardware, and the computer did not shutdown properly. A few days later, when I started the computer, the hard drives were not recognized by the bios. There were some problems with irq and acpi. Irq problems, because of some pci cards, I think. Not being very smart on the subject I can only speculate what the cause was. Maybe lightning? I can do testing on amd64 and core duo, both with nvidia graphic cards as well as P3 or P4, but without 3d graphic drivers. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
On 2010-10-05 10:37, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: David, 2010/10/5 David Henningssondavid.hennings...@canonical.com: [...] great that you want to manage these kernels! I have always managed -rt kernels in Ubuntu since Feisty Until Maverick where I have gave up for personal reasons. Okay, then a big thanks for your contributions so far! I'm mostly curious about -lowlatency, but unfortunately I haven't got around to test it. I think -preempt is a server kernel? Could you also say that -lowlatency is the desktop version of -preempt? I don't know much about -preempt. A low latency kernel in server context make little sense to me at least. To give you that context - from what I've heard, Red Hat has customers in the stock business where milliseconds could be the difference between being the one being able to buy the stock being up for sale, or losing the transaction. That's why the PREEMPT_RT patches were originally created. I know nothing about whether Canonical has customers in that sector or not. Is there a difference between -rt and -realtime, except that your -realtime seems more updated than -rt? Do you think we should replace the official linux-rt, with your linux-realtime? Few minutes ago I replied to Laurent about that. closely until now, so I'd also like to ask you - do you feel you have the support you need from the kernel-team's side for maintaining these kernels? Really I don't understand what you mean with feel. In any case I avoid to reply on this answer because I don't want start a flame. Ok. [...] I think we need to have it for every release, to get the best possible testing and quality of these kernels. If that's possible? The time of one-man-kernel-made is finished. So if people want the real time kernel they should help. Okay, I understand, and I'm glad that Luke replied that he wanted to help out, at least with the lowlatency version. I think we need people's opinion on whether lowlatency is good enough, or if we really need -rt and/or -realtime. (Which requires more maintainer work.) Please reply only if you want help. Just to clarify, did you mean if you need help (you help me) or if you want to help (I help you) ? I don't need help unless you want offer me a serious job. Real time kernel need help. Thanks for the clarification. -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
In response to Scott's original mockup: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png Good work Scott! So, starting with what works: 1) I like that things have been moved up the page. The old site was pretty, but simple, with specific information at least a scroll's length down the page. 2) Navigation wise, I would say that someone that lands here has the potential of getting their bearings quickly. The global nav is easily accessible in the upper right, along with lower level categories on the left being easily skimmed by the eye without having to 'move' the page. 3) On the old site the blog entries were pretty small, closer to tweets -- Look a new release! With this mockup, the space is tuned more to those types of posts. Someone can easily take in the most recent information, again without 'moving the page.' As for what it can do better: 1) I don't really like the social media icons. They seem to clutter up that valuable 'upper right' real estate. I would question how much use they will get. However, if we do decide that they belong, then I think the icons themselves need to be desaturated. These current colors are good for THEIR respective brands, but totally destroy our color scheme, and our brand. Perhaps gray/black social media icons, that regain their color with a mouse hover? 2) I would tend to agree with others that the mock-up feels busy. I think that the majority of this has to do with the font settings, and to a lesser extent, certain page elements not lining up. (I'll post something later showing what I mean) I would submit that much 'breathing room' could be created by using a tighter editorial writing style coupled with a larger line height, and greater margins/padding. A quick example - within the 'what is ubuntu' section: Watch the YouTube video for a quick explanation of what Ubuntu Studio offers or look at the feature walkthrough for a more in depth exploration of the features available in Ubuntu Studio. This feels wordy, and could possibly be removed or rewritten to something more succinct: Explore what Ubuntu Studio can do for you ** A link to the walk-though would be included. As for the youtube video, having that video right there with the 'play' button ready to go, is more than enough prompting for most people. Summary : All in all I think this shows some merit, with more work needed on the actual wording, along with spacing the text correctly, and better alignment of the various page elements. I'll throw in a little design time this weekend, once I get a hold on Scott's svg. Good work guys! -- Benjamin -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Audio/Video/Graphical Package Selection for Natty Narwhal
Hello all, Recently we have been begun reevaluating the audio, video, and graphical package selection for Ubuntu Studio. I think many would agree that some the current packages seems disquietingly unfocused, unrelated or disparate, not supporting any particular process or task. For Natty Narwhal we would like develop a much leaner, streamlined, focused, and useful audio, video, and graphical package selection. And you can help develop it! This is your chance to directly effect the package selection for Ubuntu Studio. If you wish to discuss non-audio, video, or graphical packages, say Pulse Audio or which PDF viewer is included, then please start another thread. The focus of this email is for refining the audio, video, and graphical package selection set only. Our chosen methodology to effect this is to identify tasks and develop workflows to accomplish the task. Tasks are generalized objectives and the workflow will then identify which applications are required. Please note that multiple, alternative workflows could be defined to accomplish the same task and that multiple applications might be required for a particular workflow. A very direct and simple taks might be to Create a Poster/Flier. The associated workflow would be to start Inkscape, add graphics from the clip library, and text as desired. The application required would simply be Inkscape. While a more complicated, involved task might be Recording Audio with Plugin Effects. The workflow would be to start jack and Ardour, connect the audio input to the track in Ardour, add the LV2 plugin into the track, and record the audio with the effect. The applications required would be qjackctl, jackd, ardour, and various LADSPA/LV2 plugins. You are highly encouraged to participate by evaluating what is done, correcting any definitive errors, adding alternate workflows, and adding additional tasks and workflows. You can find existing tasks and workflows at the following wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows I would ask that a few conditions be observed: * do not delete others work (this is highly important) * feel free to correct obvious errors, but respect differing viewpoints * provide alternate workflow if you have a different process * do not include partial or incomplete workflows Partial or incomplete workflows will most likely not be considered. We should be striving to provide complete functionality. The time frame to complete the initial selection will be before the end of October. This hopefully will provide time to update the seeds and meta-packages so we can begin testing Natty with the new package selections at the beginning of the release cycle. I am excited about this prospect and I hope you participate to help make Ubuntu Studio better. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Benjamin Turner passionsplaydes...@gmail.com wrote: In response to Scott's original mockup: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png Good work Scott! So, starting with what works: 1) I like that things have been moved up the page. The old site was pretty, but simple, with specific information at least a scroll's length down the page. 2) Navigation wise, I would say that someone that lands here has the potential of getting their bearings quickly. The global nav is easily accessible in the upper right, along with lower level categories on the left being easily skimmed by the eye without having to 'move' the page. 3) On the old site the blog entries were pretty small, closer to tweets -- Look a new release! With this mockup, the space is tuned more to those types of posts. Someone can easily take in the most recent information, again without 'moving the page.' As for what it can do better: 1) I don't really like the social media icons. They seem to clutter up that valuable 'upper right' real estate. I would question how much use they will get. However, if we do decide that they belong, then I think the icons themselves need to be desaturated. These current colors are good for THEIR respective brands, but totally destroy our color scheme, and our brand. Perhaps gray/black social media icons, that regain their color with a mouse hover? 2) I would tend to agree with others that the mock-up feels busy. I think that the majority of this has to do with the font settings, and to a lesser extent, certain page elements not lining up. (I'll post something later showing what I mean) I would submit that much 'breathing room' could be created by using a tighter editorial writing style coupled with a larger line height, and greater margins/padding. A quick example - within the 'what is ubuntu' section: Watch the YouTube video for a quick explanation of what Ubuntu Studio offers or look at the feature walkthrough for a more in depth exploration of the features available in Ubuntu Studio. This feels wordy, and could possibly be removed or rewritten to something more succinct: Explore what Ubuntu Studio can do for you ** A link to the walk-though would be included. As for the youtube video, having that video right there with the 'play' button ready to go, is more than enough prompting for most people. Summary : All in all I think this shows some merit, with more work needed on the actual wording, along with spacing the text correctly, and better alignment of the various page elements. I'll throw in a little design time this weekend, once I get a hold on Scott's svg. Good work guys! -- Benjamin -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel First I would like to point out that my mock-up is just a suggestion. This isn't necessarily the direction we have to go. If someone has something they want to share then please do so. Or if someone has something they have been working on, then please post a screen shot as well. Secondly I would like to agree with many of the assessments. My inspiration was originally very simple, almost elegant, and my mock-up grew way to busy. As to the font size or syntax, I fear that I lack the experience as a website designer to make something elegant. My feelings toward what audience the website should be focused is probably a person unfamiliar with Ubuntu Studio. Someone who has heard about it perhaps but doesn't really understand it yet, or did a Google search for free audio distribution. I expect some experienced people will attend the site as well, but probably will already know where to find answers or tutorials or help directly without the website and therefore need it less. So I feel the audience are to be musicians, new to Ubuntu Studio who wish to learn about it so they can use it, and the website's voice would be learn. Lastly, here is my .svg file: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.svg ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Sporadic UI halts on Meerkat Netbook - how to debug
Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 à 10:51 +0200, frederik.nn...@gmail.com a écrit : AIUI todays default user interface to the linux kernel is a GUI, the DE in our case here. If the DE itself can not rely on a minimum of CPU and memory resources to be reserved for it, how can we assume that it will ever be reliable itself? It is easy to defer this problem to another list, but it is equally clear that this problem extends over all areas related to UI, DE or the underlying architectures.. There's nothing specially related to GUIs in this problem, I think that's a bug in the kernel. So I'm not deferring the problem to another list, I'm just saying that there's no hope the desktop team will fix it, and the only option is to discuss this with kernel developers. Have a look at the bug report I linked to, and you'll see that's the only guarantee to avoid talking with nobody listening... Cheers -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Suddenly very slow to start
Hello Fellow Ubuntu Users For some strange reason my Ubuntu 10.04 has suddenly become very slow to boot. I tried to repair the system at boot ( pressing escape) and then selected 'repair broken packages'. I have tried the above several times but still keep getting error messages as follows: usb 1-4 device descriptor read/64, error -110 unable to enumerate usb device on port 4 unable to enumerate usb device on port 5 It also thinks that there is a program still running, although it has started from cold. Can anyone tell me what these mean and how I can fix them ? Thanks very much David -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Suddenly very slow to start
Hey Dave, Do you have an external USB hard drive plugged into the machine? If so can you try unplugging it and rebooting to see if it still starts up slowly? If not can you please open the termal and type: lsusb And please copy and paste the results? On 5 October 2010 23:44, David Bowskill david...@tpg.com.au wrote: Hello Fellow Ubuntu Users For some strange reason my Ubuntu 10.04 has suddenly become very slow to boot. I tried to repair the system at boot ( pressing escape) and then selected 'repair broken packages'. I have tried the above several times but still keep getting error messages as follows: usb 1-4 device descriptor read/64, error -110 unable to enumerate usb device on port 4 unable to enumerate usb device on port 5 It also thinks that there is a program still running, although it has started from cold. Can anyone tell me what these mean and how I can fix them ? Thanks very much David -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Telstra Next G USB Modem and Ubuntu 10.04
Hi, Can anyone direct me to a link that might help me connect with my Telstra NextG USB Modem through Ubuntu 10.04? Thanks. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Next G USB Modem and Ubuntu 10.04
On 4 October 2010 19:07, onetruth troyslibr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can anyone direct me to a link that might help me connect with my Telstra NextG USB Modem through Ubuntu 10.04? Thanks. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au Hi there, The first place I would look for to start on this would be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/WirelessBroadbandInformation As a team we have tried to generate some information on locally available products for all to share. If your device is not listed on the wiki page or the information there isn't helping just let us know what model or type of USB modem you have (there are several models) because they are all slightly different. It is usually written on the device somewhere in small print. Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Promoting Ubuntu
To discuss this prior to the meeting: My suggestion is this: We prepare, advertise and give a 30minute presentation to 12-24 people at a time. They can bring their own machines. For the remaining time ?1.5 hours, we help them test and hopefully install Ubuntu. In short: Starting in Brisbane (North or CBD because that is where I can get to easily) but hopefully extending this further if it works well. The target audience is small business professional or home users who use their computers every day but who are not geeks or technical people. I could prepare/source the 15m presentation which gives a user overview of browsing/office/evolution - the 90% desktop functionality. Then ?15m questions with prepared photo, movie watching, torrent +? responses. I'd need some reviewers. We prepare an ad. We're aiming primarily to convert MS Windows users so we need something catchy and simple for the ad. This will need some brainstorming, It needs to appeal to our target audience. In the session we would probably need 3 of us present skilled in Ubuntu Installation. This idea could possibly be merged with promoting Ubuntu to charitable organisations - For them we offer them attendance for free. It would make them more likely to show an interest because they could see that they are getting something that others have to pay for. Any thoughts? Regards, Paul Whipp Office: 07 3103 2894 Mobile: 0410 545 357 Do more business with your website! http://www.paulwhippconsulting.com.au Joomla, Magento, PHP and MySQL web application developerhttp://www.paulwhippconsulting.com.au/ On 27 September 2010 10:22, Paul Whipp paul.wh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I've been using Ubuntu for work and play since 8.04. I am interested in getting more people to use ubuntu because it is better for them than the alternatives. I have been thinking about preparing a presentation and inviting people to come to it. After introducing Ubuntu and going over its use/benefits (focus on browsing/open office/email) people could try ubuntu and get instant help installing it if they have brought their laptops etc. along. I would need a couple of helpers who can speak non-geek and help with the installation issues and hand holding. I would aim for 12-24 attendees. I am new to this list community so forgive me if this is obvious: I was going to post this as an agenda item for the next irc meeting but, while I can edit old meeting pages, the place where it says to add agenda items for the next meeting is on an immutable page ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings). Am I missing something there? Regards, Paul Whipp Office: 07 3103 2894 Mobile: 0410 545 357 Do more business with your website!http://www.paulwhippconsulting.com.au Joomla, Magento, PHP and MySQL web application developerhttp://www.paulwhippconsulting.com.au/ -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Suddenly very slow to start
Thanks for reply Dave. There are no devices plugged into any USB port (apart from the mouse) although the effect did seem to first arise when I was using a USB stick some while ago. I have run 'lsusb' in a terminal and the results are as below: da...@djb-p4:~$ lsusb Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0461:4d01 Primax Electronics, Ltd Comfort Keyboard Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub da...@djb-p4:~$ Thanks for your help David Bowskill On 06/10/10 00:07, David Fawcett wrote: Hey Dave, Do you have an external USB hard drive plugged into the machine? If so can you try unplugging it and rebooting to see if it still starts up slowly? If not can you please open the termal and type: lsusb And please copy and paste the results? On 5 October 2010 23:44, David Bowskill david...@tpg.com.au wrote: Hello Fellow Ubuntu Users For some strange reason my Ubuntu 10.04 has suddenly become very slow to boot. I tried to repair the system at boot ( pressing escape) and then selected 'repair broken packages'. I have tried the above several times but still keep getting error messages as follows: usb 1-4 device descriptor read/64, error -110 unable to enumerate usb device on port 4 unable to enumerate usb device on port 5 It also thinks that there is a program still running, although it has started from cold. Can anyone tell me what these mean and how I can fix them ? Thanks very much David -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Suddenly very slow to start
Many thanks to the two David's who replied to me. The command 'lsusb I was not aware of, and with the '-v' switch, provides a mass of data (not sure what it all means) about the USB connected devices. This is the great thing about the Linux (especially Ubuntu) Community - the great sense of camerade and willing help that is shared around. I belong to a 'Mens Shed' and we have a computer club which at present is based on the 'dark' side. My aim is to convert as many as possible to the 'light' (Linux). To this end I am very much interested in what Paul Whipp is suggesting to promote Ubuntu - more strength to his elbow ! Many thanks again David Bowskill On 06/10/10 15:03, David Whyte wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, David Bowskill david...@tpg.com.au wrote: Thanks for reply Dave. There are no devices plugged into any USB port (apart from the mouse) although the effect did seem to first arise when I was using a USB stick some while ago. I have run 'lsusb' in a terminal and the results are as below: da...@djb-p4:~$ lsusb Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0461:4d01 Primax Electronics, Ltd Comfort Keyboard Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub da...@djb-p4:~$ Hi, Just thought as another David, I could add to this thread :) It looks like the line... Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device ...is an internal media card reader. Do you have a card in the internal reader when you boot? If so, try removing that before boot up. There are ways to boot in safe mode or recovery mode or something too, which shows all the startup messages scrolling up the screen. If you get there, you may see some errors about what the problem is. Cheers, Whytey -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 00:43 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va escriure: I have three ideas for better user experience and for improve getting translations back to upstream. Hi Fran, Thanks a lot for the feedback. Again, these are requests for new Launchpad features, and while they are absolutely valid requests, that was not the primary intention of this thread. Let me comment on your suggestions: I'm coordinating the Galician translators team of GNOME, and I found a lot of strings that have been changed in Launchpad, some of them were bugfixes unreported upstream. So to improve this I propose: - Group diferent templates from the https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+lang/gl page by project (Ubuntu related, GNOME project, KDE project, Translation project, ...). This will help translators/coordinators to focus in one particular area of translations. That's something we definitely need, although it is not something the Launchpad developers will be able to work on in the near future. I hope I've managed to explain why on previous replies on this thread: it's a matter of allocating development resources to priorities, but I'll be happy to explain it again if you feel there is the need to. We also had a Google Summer of Code project proposal (along with other ones for Launchpad Translations, scroll down on the list), but unfortunately no student had the time or interest to pick it up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2010/Ideas#Package%20set%20views%20in%20Launchpad%20Translations - Where and how to send to upstream: For each group will be very helpful have one page explaining how and where to submit translations to upstream. For example, there are a lot of templates completed in LP from Translation Project and in TP continue untranslated. We do not have this integrated in Launchpad. In the future, it would be useful to have it, but better still, we should have an automated or semi-automated way to send to upstreams (note that I'm not saying it's going to be like that, there are no plans for an implementation yet: this is only one of the ideas that have been thrown around). For example, when submitting a translation back to the TP it should be sent to the TP robot; for GNOME, it should land on damned lies for review, etc. At the moment, the upstream pages in the wiki cover this purpose as a workaround: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream Until there is a way to handle this in Launchpad automatically, I'd suggest to keep maintaining those pages, and I'd like to ask for everyone's help in updating them. There is good information on GNOME and KDE, but some other upstream pages are in need of some love. If you find out information on how to send translations to a particular upstream that is not already in there, please feel free to add it. With this you'll be helping all other translation teams. Some of you have told me on IRC about suggestions for better finding upstreams. I think it was Andrej from the Slovenian team that said that an alphabetical list of upstreams would be helpful. If anyone wants to work on implementing anything like this, any modifications will be more than welcome. - Export strings changed in launchpad. Allow to export one pofile from template with the changed strings in LP. That's already possible nowadays: http://blog.launchpad.net/translations/partial-po-export-holding-post You can export a PO file in a given language with only the changes in Launchpad and Ubuntu-specific strings. Thanks! Regards, David. Regards. O Xov, 16-09-2010 ás 19:17 +0200, David Planella escribiu: Hi all, In the Community team at Canonical we are now starting to lay out the plans for the 11.04 roadmap for translations. For this, we really value your input and would very much like to take your ideas and feedback into account. One of the key areas I'd like to work on in this cycle, for instance, is outreach: we want to bang the drum and get people excited and involved in translations. What are your thoughts and ideas? What do you think we should focus on? Thanks! Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Fw: Digest of annou...@documentfoundation.org issue 2 (5)
Hi :) I just tried to forward this message from LibreOffice Mailing List although you have probably got this already. Just in case though ... - Forwarded Message From: announce+h...@documentfoundation.org announce+h...@documentfoundation.org To: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tue, 5 October, 2010 1:00:04 Subject: Digest of annou...@documentfoundation.org issue 2 (5) Topics (messages 5 through 5): [tdf-announce] New Mailinglist: l...@libreoffice.org 5 - ??? andre.schna...@gmx.net [tdf-announce] New Mailinglist: l...@libreoffice.org From: André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net To: disc...@documentfoundation.org, l...@libreoffice.org, annou...@documentfoundation.orgHi, the mailing list for translation related work l...@libreoffice.org is up and running. Subscription works as for the other lists: l10n+subscr...@libreoffice.org l10n+subscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org Archives at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/l10n/ For all who are interested in translating LibO, workflows, setting up the inital infrastructure ... please subscribe to the list. As we are translators and our workflow is related to the development, please subscribe to libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org as well. This might help to get a common understanding of developer and translators :) For people who are waiting for more lists: they will be created soon. regards, André -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/ Many regards from Tom :) ---BeginMessage--- Hi, the mailing list for translation related work l...@libreoffice.org is up and running. Subscription works as for the other lists: l10n+subscr...@libreoffice.org l10n+subscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org Archives at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/l10n/ For all who are interested in translating LibO, workflows, setting up the inital infrastructure ... please subscribe to the list. As we are translators and our workflow is related to the development, please subscribe to libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org as well. This might help to get a common understanding of developer and translators :) For people who are waiting for more lists: they will be created soon. regards, André -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/ ---End Message--- -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
El dt 05 de 10 de 2010 a les 06:55 +0200, en/na Jonathan Aquilina va escriure: David my idea was rather simple have a screen shot. then translators can translate it in lp and on the screenshot and it directly edits the po file on the back end with out the user having to touch it. Also translators can see how the strings will look prior to release. i would more then willingly help but i have lots on my plate at the moment. Hi Jonathan, That is indeed a great idea, but the message that I was trying to convey is that every idea implies a responsibility, which I believe specially holds true for Open Source. Everyone in here has great ideas, but the hard part is crossing the brainstorming stage and doing the implementation, and it generally takes someone to lead the effort. If you'd like to contribute to that, that'd be awesome. The next step I'd suggest would be to write a specification and then we can take it from there. Thanks! Regards, David. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote: El dg 03 de 10 de 2010 a les 09:43 +0200, en/na Yaron Shahrabani va escriure: I think we should add it to the roadmap, any objections? Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator Hi Yaron, As mentioned before, the roadmap is for projects or objectives related primarily to the translations community. While this would certainly provide a big benefit to the translations community, it is mainly a Launchpad Translations feature request. Even then, it might make sense to add it to the roadmap. However, I feel that this would be a significant piece of work, probably spanning several Ubuntu cycles, and the use case and specification are still a bit vague. It is also not clear to me who'd be willing to lead and contribute to this effort, which would also mean getting familiar with Launchpad development and its code base and how it is designed. With this in mind, I think I'd prefer not to add it to the roadmap. Please don't feel discouraged about this. If you would like to work on this either by developing it or coordinating it, feel free to go on. You'll certainly have the support of the Launchpad development team. However, I'd first recommend to write a complete specification about the feature and its implementation, as I believe it to be essential for any development work planning. Thanks! Regards, David. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Ofir Klinger klinger.o...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is a great idea! When I translated Amarok (upstream) I opened Amarok in my language and marked the untranslated strings in Amarok. Then I searched for them in the po file and translated them. Many strings were impossible to translate right without the context, as different languages as different ways to the same thing. I am all for it, and I am willing to help updating the screenshots. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought of another idea. Would it be possible then with those images to have the po files attached so that translators can updated them there directly, and see how they will look on the ui of a particular program? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Its all a matter of seconds, once the feature is available the translators will find it useful and will be motivated to use it, it's just like translating a software with a resource editor which is way easier than translating a po file Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 10:18 +1200, en/na John Barstow va escriure: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:17 AM, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote: What are your thoughts and ideas? What do you think we should focus on? I would like the ability to easily locate short, non-technical strings to translate. Taking GTK as an example module, the first string people see is Error parsing option --gdk-debug. It would be much easier to persuade people to contribute if the first string was something like _Add (actually any of the stock labels in that module). Searching for add brings up 11 results; the obvious one is result #5. I believe that anything we can do to make it easier to locate and translate commands, labels, and menu items will go a long way to help build up confidence in new or casual contributors. Thanks John for your useful feedback. There have been a couple of similar suggestions (or at least in that direction) in the translators list. This would require non-trivial development work in Launchpad, i.e. implementing a new feature. As with other technical requests, if you've got any further ideas regarding the implementation, I'd suggest opening a separate thread either in ubuntu-translators or launchpad-dev and take it from there. Thanks! Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
Hi David, On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 20:06, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote: El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 12:06 +0200, en/na Milo Casagrande va Maybe, as a short-term goal, I was thinking about reaching out translator teams, and ask them if they have story to share about how, a translated version of Ubuntu, has helped people/companies/schools in a particular way, something that a non-translated version couldn't have achieved, and share their story on the Fridge, pointing out how important is the translators work. I really like this idea, I think it would be good to start a coordinated effort to publish stories for each translation team. I'm planning to have a UDS session on this. Good, looking forward to attend that session! We should probably try to have more translators on the hall-of-fame, We haven't updated the Hall Of Fame for a while, so the status of the HoF is right now on hold, unless someone finds the time to step up and help maintaining it. That's the reason why we haven't been adding any rockstar contributors (be it in translation or in any area). Hmmm... maybe we need to ask the community to help out with that: having a small team of dedicated people that can maintain the HoF. Will it be possible to open the maintainance of the HoF also to community members? and start publishing more translators interview. We should be publishing the interviews monthly, but there seems to have been some delay in the last one. It's been hectic lately with the preparation of several OpenWeek, AppDeveloperWeek and such events, but I'll try to see if we can unblock it and start publishing the next batch of interviews. I saw a new one on the Fridge yesterday, but again, like for the HoF, maybe opening it up to other community members, maybe translators members in this case, could help it a little bit. I would really like to see a community-driven web portal where translator groups (but not only them) can get together, a sort-of Language Portal like Microsoft has, but better and open-source: http://www.microsoft.com/Language/en-US/Default.aspx Despite all attempts to structure the contents on the Translations namespace and to simplify the main page so that people can easily find the info they need (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/), the wiki has grown too big for being able to store all the content related to translations and present it to new users in a way that is both easy to use and attractive. I've been discussing this with Jono, and also looking at the awesome work my team mate Ahmed has been doing on a Cloud Portal, and I think it is the time for a Translations Portal. Is this something that is already public? Just to take a peek at it... If not, doesn't matter! ;-) The idea of the portal is to have a site on http://translations.ubuntu.com that can serve to aggregate and showcase the current content related to Ubuntu Translations with the main purposes of: * Inspiring and getting new contributors excited about translations * Be used as a spring board for anyone to easily get started to translating Ubuntu That is something which I would also like to focus on this cycle, and I would encourage anyone to give a hand to make the Ubuntu translations experience even more awesome. I find the suggestion of hosting a glossary and a discussion forum good ideas, but that is something that will require some development or infrastructure work. For the first phase, I'd like to focus on building a functional portal and aggregating some basic information: # News and announcements, Articles on translations, Translations quick start guide, Links to reference documentation on the wiki, Microblogging, Presentation video, Videos on how to get started with translations, etc. I'll also be adding a UDS session for that. What do you think? Totally agree with you on the basic features at the beginning: more advanced features (glossary, vocabulary or whatever pop-ups in our minds) could be developed as time passes by, and we better understand where we should focus our strengths. If this is going to be more a community-driven effort, one or two advanced features per release cycle could be a good goal (based also on the number of people involved and the difficulty of the tasks). I personally think the wiki is getting more difficult to maintain, and information is getting buried under a lot of click-paths. The supposed translation portal should go under a thorough content strategy and restructure. I'm not very fond of videos, but that's me. I tend to think that to have a good quality video is not easy, and also it's not easy to localize them (as long as we don't provide closed captionings; we can maybe argue that it's a translators portal and people should be accostumed using Elnglish, but translators are proud to have as much as they can translated in their language :-) Really looking forward to discuss this at UDS!
Help with the Community Review
Hi translators, I would like to ask for your help in a new initiative. Quoting Jono: [...] as we have grown, I feel the typical community onboarding experience, that is, getting new people involved, has become overly complex. As such, I am kicking off an initiative with some of my fellow community members to identify areas in which we can fix this. In short, we are trying to assess how to make it easier to new contributors to participate to Ubuntu in different areas. You'll find more information here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010 We'd like to ask 5 new (or relatively new) members to the translations community to answer some really simple questions, which we'll use as feedback to identify what we need to fix or improve. So what I would like to ask you is to forward these questions to any of your team members that might have started to contribute recently and to send me an e-mail with the answers at david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com. I'll then process the data and I'll publish it on that wiki page, removing the name of the submitter in case he/she does not want it published. Here are the questions: Translations * How did you learn about this part of the community? * What attracted you to this type of participation? * Where did you look first for information on getting involved? * Did you feel the places you looked for information were useful? If not, how could we improve? * When learning skills and content for participating, were the resources you used useful? If not, how could we improve? * What recommendations would you make for improving your experience in our community? Do you think you could give a hand with that? Thanks! Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
Hi, I really need of someone could take care of a little wiki page about all real time kernels (differences, reasons, TODO, list of volunteers, packing status and so on). In this way new comers could find reply to their questions. Moreover a bit of interest exist for video closed drivers. Is there a volunteer to handle DKMS packages? I could provide all relevant code which fix compatibility with real time kernels but I don't enough time to handle uploading that code (that is sending patch to nvidia or fglrx Ubuntu maintainer or upload a fix package to PPA). In this way we could support closed video drivers and in general all DKMS base drivers. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:27:02AM EST, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? Of course I'd prefer realtime/rt, however the truth of the matter is that keeping up with patches, and keeping the kernel versions in sync for any one Ubuntu release is very difficult. For this reason, I'd favour the lowlatency kernel, as it would be easier to maintain, given its only configuration changes, and would be easier to get into Ubuntu, and maintain it, keeping in sync with the Ubuntu release kernel version. How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? I'm happy to help maintain the low latency kernel, i.e using the Ubuntu release kernel git tree as a base, and making our own changes on top, and rebasing on the Ubuntu kernel for fixes. Can help get it into universe, and maintain it there. Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? With the low latency kernel, I would be happy to support it for every Ubuntu release where it is in the archive. Luke -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 06:23:20PM EST, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: Moreover a bit of interest exist for video closed drivers. Is there a volunteer to handle DKMS packages? I could provide all relevant code which fix compatibility with real time kernels but I don't enough time to handle uploading that code (that is sending patch to nvidia or fglrx Ubuntu maintainer or upload a fix package to PPA). In this way we could support closed video drivers and in general all DKMS base drivers. I am willing to help apply patches to dkms driver packages, although won't necessarily have time/a chance to test them myself. Given sufficient testing, I am happy to get the patches uploaded, once they are known to be ok. Luke -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Laurent, 2010/10/4 laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Real time for audio, is there de difference beetween the three proposals ? -lowlatency == -generic + more aggressive low latency kernel configuration It can offers all things that Ubuntu offer with -generic so -backport modules, video closed drivers and so on. It is very solid and oriented to soft users. Trade-off between low latency and power consumption. -rt == -generic + plus PREEMPT_RT patchset (this is the realtime Linux) It would want offer the same but require a lot of works. it would want be aligned with -generic version but it can't be able. It isn't very solid and it is oriented to hard users only. Power consumption is a secondary concern. -realtime == vanilla (kernel.org) + plus PREEMPT_RT patchset (this is the realtime Linux) It don't be interested neither to be aligned with -generic kernel nor be compatible with all closed video rivers shipped (and worked) with Ubuntu. It don't provide -backport drivers. it is very stable and it is oriented to hard users only. Power consumption is a secondary concern. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
David, 2010/10/5 David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com: [...] great that you want to manage these kernels! I have always managed -rt kernels in Ubuntu since Feisty Until Maverick where I have gave up for personal reasons. I'm mostly curious about -lowlatency, but unfortunately I haven't got around to test it. I think -preempt is a server kernel? Could you also say that -lowlatency is the desktop version of -preempt? I don't know much about -preempt. A low latency kernel in server context make little sense to me at least. Is there a difference between -rt and -realtime, except that your -realtime seems more updated than -rt? Do you think we should replace the official linux-rt, with your linux-realtime? Few minutes ago I replied to Laurent about that. closely until now, so I'd also like to ask you - do you feel you have the support you need from the kernel-team's side for maintaining these kernels? Really I don't understand what you mean with feel. In any case I avoid to reply on this answer because I don't want start a flame. [...] I think we need to have it for every release, to get the best possible testing and quality of these kernels. If that's possible? The time of one-man-kernel-made is finished. So if people want the real time kernel they should help. Please reply only if you want help. Just to clarify, did you mean if you need help (you help me) or if you want to help (I help you) ? I don't need help unless you want offer me a serious job. Real time kernel need help. All -rt kernels have always worked well on my old laptop also the infamous Intrepid and Jaunty releases. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
On 10/05/2010 03:23 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: I really need of someone could take care of a little wiki page about all real time kernels (differences, reasons, TODO, list of volunteers, packing status and so on). In this way new comers could find reply to their questions. I'll update and rework https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel with the info learned from the The different realtime kernels I started some days ago. Good day, Ronan -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Testing 10.10 AMD64 and i386, Alessio's PPA
So here I am now. I need/want nvidia module because of two screens (TwinView) and I need pae for 4GB on i386. lscpi: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] (rev a1) AMD64 generic ok, nvidia module ok/load lowlatency not ok, nvidia module fail rt not ok, nvidia module fail i386 generic-pae ok, nvidia module ok/load lowlatency-pae ok, nvidia module ok/load rt-pae not ok, nvidia module fail Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Audio/Video/Graphical Package Selection for Natty Narwhal
Hello all, Recently we have been begun reevaluating the audio, video, and graphical package selection for Ubuntu Studio. I think many would agree that some the current packages seems disquietingly unfocused, unrelated or disparate, not supporting any particular process or task. For Natty Narwhal we would like develop a much leaner, streamlined, focused, and useful audio, video, and graphical package selection. And you can help develop it! This is your chance to directly effect the package selection for Ubuntu Studio. If you wish to discuss non-audio, video, or graphical packages, say Pulse Audio or which PDF viewer is included, then please start another thread. The focus of this email is for refining the audio, video, and graphical package selection set only. Our chosen methodology to effect this is to identify tasks and develop workflows to accomplish the task. Tasks are generalized objectives and the workflow will then identify which applications are required. Please note that multiple, alternative workflows could be defined to accomplish the same task and that multiple applications might be required for a particular workflow. A very direct and simple taks might be to Create a Poster/Flier. The associated workflow would be to start Inkscape, add graphics from the clip library, and text as desired. The application required would simply be Inkscape. While a more complicated, involved task might be Recording Audio with Plugin Effects. The workflow would be to start jack and Ardour, connect the audio input to the track in Ardour, add the LV2 plugin into the track, and record the audio with the effect. The applications required would be qjackctl, jackd, ardour, and various LADSPA/LV2 plugins. You are highly encouraged to participate by evaluating what is done, correcting any definitive errors, adding alternate workflows, and adding additional tasks and workflows. You can find existing tasks and workflows at the following wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows I would ask that a few conditions be observed: * do not delete others work (this is highly important) * feel free to correct obvious errors, but respect differing viewpoints * provide alternate workflow if you have a different process * do not include partial or incomplete workflows Partial or incomplete workflows will most likely not be considered. We should be striving to provide complete functionality. The time frame to complete the initial selection will be before the end of October. This hopefully will provide time to update the seeds and meta-packages so we can begin testing Natty with the new package selections at the beginning of the release cycle. I am excited about this prospect and I hope you participate to help make Ubuntu Studio better. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] joomla
Amigo, eu trabalho com Drupal, no momento da instalação nos atribuimos permissões de escrita em um arquivo de um determinado diretório, nesse seu caso vc está atribuindo de modo recursivo, (-R) ou seja, a todos os diretórios e sub-diretórios do diretório joomla, não conheço as instruções para Joomla em específico, mas acho que é um risco muito grande... pesquise mais nas lista do joomla br Em 5 de outubro de 2010 01:57, Anderson Alves de Albuquerque anderso...@gmail.com escreveu: Eu vi em vários tutoriais de instalação do joomla o seguinte: *$ sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www/joomla* ou *$ sudo chmod -R +w /var/www/joomla* seria necessário dar permissão de escrita para todos mesmo? Não tem como restringir mais? -- [], Anderson Alves de Albuquerque. --- E-mails: andersonalvesdealbuquerque#hotmail.com (replace # by @) andersonaa#gmail.com (replace # by @) ICQ: 73222660 http://diseg.pu.ufrj.br/ --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- O Linux não é só um fenômeno tecnológico, mas um fenômeno humano de cooperatividade, visão global e a prova de que se nos unirmos, podemos fazer coisas maravilhosas..acesse http://www.modolivre.com -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Apache
Eu estava pensando em montar uma lista exclusiva para Apache o que você acha? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br