Re: [ubuntu-in] C++IDE for Ubuntu

[Ravi Kumar]

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On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Narendra Sisodiya <
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM, fahad fazil wrote:
>
>> Programming in Windows is  far away from linux ( As we are thought in
>> windows) . Many of the header files are different and no extensions also.
>
>
> NO, this is not true. If you use GCC/G++ in Windows  DevCPP) or Linux, Both
> are almost same. (Do not reply back with TC3 which is 20 year old DOS based
> stupid software).
>

Really, TC3 isn't the stupid... The technology and progress then was not
such that you can compare it to one available now. I admire the TC3 and
these were the things which let you make something better and improved.



>
> Also, CodeBlocks , Netbeans and Eclipse are very good IDE. If you say, IDE
> is not working, I am assuming that you are unable to use IDE. try learning
> it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Redesign the Ubuntu India website

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On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Pratul Kalia  wrote:

> Hmm. We already have the mediawiki system running fine, wouldn't do us
> very good to migrate all of that to a custom Django app, unless there
> was a *strong* reason.
>
>
> --
> dum vivimus, vivamus
> pratul == lut4rp
> http://pratul.in
>
>
Wiki platform are nice, but only for wiki. Yes, we can create anything from
it, but again it needs some hacks, added effort and getting off the straight
road. So, I would not choose a Wiki platform for a full-fledged site with a
part as wiki. But again I would say (as I earlier stated), this should not
be a good time to decide over the platform. We should plan something before
start digging in.

Ubuntu-In should not be just a wiki. It should be a Custom site, a forum, a
wiki, a CMS and more.

What I think about Ubuntu-India, not a site about Ubuntu, but a site more
geared towards the Ubuntu and its
usage/development/helps/articles/presentations/news around users in India.
You can also put it in some professional attire, so that people/businesses
in India can take Ubuntu seriously.

Why we should go for professional look and content:
Lets realise it. Everyone moved from simple to little more professional, and
usable, more informative and content rich. Like Fedora, SuSE, Ubuntu
official etc.

So, I will suggest a base framework, with some initial features/apps
developed on it. Then, gradually we can add more  and more apps to it.
Later, it will grow with apps, contents and media. We can all put our
effort, don't we? Everyone can contribute, no matter how and what they
contribute. We can have multi languages for tutorials and articles.
Look at Ubuntu France, its totally in french. Why not our loco site in
indian language other than official english.French site has their own
Planet, Documentation and forum.
Again, look at Ubuntu Spain. They too got documentation, forum, blogs etc.


There are so many people in India involved-or-using Ubuntu than most other
countries. Many of them will volunteer forward to create some difference. Am
I wrong? Where else can we get such large community and team.

How many people here thinks the same? Please reply, support my view.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Redesign the Ubuntu India website

[Ravi Kumar]

The Redesign of Ubuntu-In is a Great idea..

First let me introduce myself. I am Ravi, Software Engineer and Architect in
a firm where OpenSoure == null-or-None. I never contributed much here. Never
interacted much with great people here. But I read most of the posts. This
Redesign project seems very interesting and I would like to contribute to
it, wherever and whatever be possible to me.

Before starting, why not we should gather some requirements and innovative
idea, and then plan the work, rather than just jumping in and start-coding.
It would be great to start by listing the basic requirements of site. Since
its a local community, we should focus primarily on information and
requirements around the users and contributors in India. Once its achieved,
then we should go for the solution.
After we have a direction to go happily, we can start working on the Designs
and Themes. And this will be one gradual effort to build something good.


So in nutshell, this would be:

   1. Brainstorming Sessions on what we should have, Requirement Gathering
   2. Cleaning and Categorising the things, and tagging it with priorities
   3. Work on basic Wireframe and Design Idea
   4. Development and Designing
   1. Mockups And Designs preparation
  2. Coding
   5. Draft Release (before we get live)
   6. And, Whoa.. Its Live now.
   7. Again run on #1 for gradual feature addon.


With a plan, we can build something good.

And yes, thats just my idea and you are free to throw it on my face. :)

Apart from these, why not we should get it on Django. There are many cool
developers here, who would love to devote their skills for a nobel cause.



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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686

[Ravi Kumar]

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:51 PM, K Ramnarayan wrote:

> See article below,
>
> Start Article
>
> Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-wont-run.html
> If you're planning on using Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat on a computer
> with a
> processor older than i686, well... you can't.
>
> Ubuntu 10.10 will be dropping support for i386-i586 processors so it can
> take
> advantage of the i686 optimizations.
>
>
> But there seem to be some issues with this: even some new processors which
> are
> especially designed for low power consumption are i586. Such a processor is
> the Geode LX800 - a pretty new processor for which a bug has been filled on
> Launchpad but which most probably won't be fixed since Geode LX800 is a
> i586
> processor.
>
>
> Thanks to Manish for the heads up!
>
> end article
> ***
>
> My Thoughts:
>
> I thought that such moves were what M$ and FrApple would have done, make
> existing hard ware obsolete. If this is true its absolutely terrible news
> for
> ubuntu fans, what it might mean is migrating to another linux which will
> support a wider range of processors.
>
> What do other folks think about this
>
> **
> To find out what processor you have use this in the command line
>
> -$ uname -m
>
> **
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Perhaps to me, this is a great news. Old hardware are not going to survive
anymore. Where do one find the Motherboards/RAMS/PATA-HDD etc if one got to
replace it. The Manufacturers already had obsoleted it. So, its really safe
time to take such move. And, it will give better optimizations.

And there are always rare-cases (else, why the word RARE). I am sure, it
would not disappoint 99.99% of ubuntu users.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Unable to configure Virtual BOX in Ubuntu 9.10

[Ravi Kumar]

2010/4/14 Mallikarjun 

>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Ritesh Sinha wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote:
>>
>>>  I have installed Virtual box(version 3.0.8_OSE r53138 Sun
>>> Microsystem)in Ubuntu 9.10.I have windows XP instaled on the same machine. I
>>> want to run Windows XP on Ubuntu 9.10.
>>>
>>> after installing it, i goto new virtual machine wizard.then click on
>>> next.then i type the name for new virtual machine as "XP on Ubuntu".It
>>> automatically detect the windows XP installed on the same machine.
>>
>> ^^^ I don't think Virtualbox does that (detect the XP installed on the
>> physical machine). You have the option of creating a new instance of a
>> virtual machine or using an existing VDI file.
>>
>
>
Yes, it does not detect Windows XP pre-installed locally. It only works for
VDI's. Either create new one, or load any existing.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] How to verify actual space on a disk (maybe OT)

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+1
yup, you better explained the situation (technically) on how it is done.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] How to verify actual space on a disk (maybe OT)

[Ravi Kumar]

These devices are made of lowest cost SSD/memory-chips from Chinese markets
(Ahhh, I hate Chinese market). Few writes (IO) in would just corrupt it. The
best check (and fastest) would be to write multiple copies of small size(
~4KB) files in it to full the capacity. Dang, and its gone :).

Don't format it.
Remember, when you connect a device to a computer, the device tells the
system that it is a Storage Device, and wiith capacity X-MB and filesystem
Y.  That is false information programmed in device initially. When you
format it, it may not work again, or will show you up with some MB of space.

Just put that in a locker, and write a note - "Some stupid engineering, not
for humanity, but for stupiity"


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Airtel Broadband Connection on Ubuntu/Beetel router

[Ravi Kumar]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Ravi Kumar  wrote:

>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Abhinav Modi wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Prakash Advani 
>> wrote:
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > I am planning on taking an Airtel Broadband connection, does anyone has
>> > any experience of it having any issues with Ubuntu?
>> >
>> > [offtopic] posting it here because you are experts.
>> >
>> > They are already providing Beetel router, which some forums said "Sucks
>> > ;-)"..
>> >
>>
>>
> Modem configured with DHCP, so rather manually dialing and connecting was
> overcome. Just I had to plug the wire in my system and voila :)
>
> You can ask your Technician who will visits you to configure it. Request
> them to have it DHCP, life would be easy. Also ask for USB cable, if your
> Modem has USB connection options too. Ubuntu recognizes the modem, when
> interfaced through USB.
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Oh, I didn't notice you were talking about wireless router. :)


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Airtel Broadband Connection on Ubuntu/Beetel router

[Ravi Kumar]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Abhinav Modi  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Prakash Advani 
> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I am planning on taking an Airtel Broadband connection, does anyone has
> > any experience of it having any issues with Ubuntu?
> >
> > [offtopic] posting it here because you are experts.
> >
> > They are already providing Beetel router, which some forums said "Sucks
> > ;-)"..
> >
>
>
I had one Airtel Broadband with Beetel modem a year ago. But their sales
department and IT dept. got me crazy. I documented that interesting story at
http://blog.threeslice.com/

I got my Modem configured with DHCP, so rather manually dialing and
connecting was overcome. Just I had to plug the wire in my system and voila
:)

You can ask your Technician who will visits you to configure it. Request
them to have it DHCP, life would be easy. Also ask for USB cable, if your
Modem has USB connection options too. Ubuntu recognizes the modem, when
interfaced through USB.

Beetel has embedded Linux. just telnet into it, providing usename : admin
and password (you must be knowing it, else ask airtel, thats your device).
you will get intoo the bare sandbox shell.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] (no subject)

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On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Atreya Chowdhury  wrote:

> so wat sud b the ryt way...'coz the way i see it its mre of a back hand
> kinda method..so wat u b the actual way to get it done...and also how sud
> usb modems b configures..???
>
> Hey, you better learn to write words and improve your language. This is not
a Yahoo Chat or SMS zone.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] OT - laptops in the 20 K range

[Ravi Kumar]

5 Months ago, I bought Dell Inspiron 1545 N Series with 3 Gigs Ram + Core 2
Duo/350GB HDD in just 36K. I was supplied with FreeDOS. I installed my
Ubuntu 9.04 on it - everything worked like charm. (Except one issue
regarding PM and disk life, which I won't describe here.. but thats the
issue with Linux, not the hardware compatibility).

Performance is awsome.
Initially, Dell guys refused to sell any such piece without Windows. I also
asked HP, and they also said they don't have such model without Windows.
Finally, one Dell dealer said he would get one piece (with FreeDOS).

Just last month I inquire for its latest price. and its around 3/- now.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Gloat Gloat

[Ravi Kumar]

Hey Ram,

First of all, nothing is secure - this is the key.

No Idea what MS IE 8 has in terms of security.
But I totally agree with you, India is not really geared towards progress in
atleast IT. Politicians, who are just about to die like a over-ripped
mangoes on tree, who never used computer decide the thing. Also, many times
I got the impression that the person in power to decide/sign these govt
implementations in IT are just influenced by who is the repr, and what dream
are shown to their eye$$.

Almost all the things that are any-way directly connected to Govt lacks:

   - Proper Implementation
   - Even Half completion
   - No creativity
   - ... too many, i am running out of time.


Indian Govt needs some fresh people. From different professions. Not for
administration, but to suggest them and show them the mighty light. Well,
what we can do, just wait, wait and wait till these mangoes just drop off th
tree.
They invest $ for MS Office package. Why they don't use OOo, maybe they
don't know. They don't trust. OOo.org can't pay hefty sum to the decision
maker in govt body. Jyotish-shastra predicted not to use the Office package
brand starting with O.

They spent on products, whereas they should have invested in research and
implmentation for a secure environment and data storage using Opensource.
You may not be knowing, most govt controlled/attached/funded centers use MS
Word to create their webpage, and they just host. :) This just get me pissed
on even thinking about it. But hey, India is great and will be a SuperPower
in next 15 years. That is what they are busy calculating.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Ramnarayan.K wrote:

> Hi
>
> couldn't resist have a laugh about who all are vulnerable to various
> M$ based vulneabilities
>
> 1. China tried to hack our computers: MK Narayanan
>
> http://news.oneindia.in/2010/01/18/china-tried-to-hack-our-computers-nsa-mk-narayan.html
> Snippet "The hackers reportedly launched an attack using a 'Trojan'
> virus in order to access the computer remotely and download of delete
> files".
>
> Trust india's most sensitive stuff to not just be vulnerable to
> virus's attacks , guess they won't ever learn, that there are better
> ways than M$ to use computers and be relatively safe without much
> effort.
>
> 2. German government warns against using MS Explorer
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
> snippet "Microsoft rejected the warning, saying that the risk to users
> was low and that the browsers' increased security setting would
> prevent any serious risk.However, German authorities say that even
> this would not make IE fully safe. "
>
> Finally the icing on the cake even the french are
> 3. France joins Germany warning against Internet Explorer
> snippet Certa, a government agency that oversees cyber threats, warned
> against using all versions of the web browser"
>
> the the MS guys make a joke "But Microsoft told BBC News that IE8 was
> the "most secure browser on the market" and people should upgrade. "
>
> **
> wow what fking arrogance first you allow people to get vulnerable
> and then tell them to buy / get yet another piece of shit.
>
>
> anyways good to know that some of us atleast sleep peacefully at night
> and our worries are not about is my data safe
>
> So Linuxeros and Ubunteros i think we have earned the right to gloat a bit
> ;-)
>
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Re: [ubuntu-in] What should we do with Free Software users who don't contribute to it in any way?

[Ravi Kumar]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Ramnarayan.K wrote:

> Hi
>
> Am linking two articles here
>
> The first
> What should we do with Free Software users who don't contribute to it
> in any way?
> http://stop.zona-m.net/node/58
>
> i think its an interesting insight into how some people may view open
> source or open source developers / enthusiasts.
>
> How the author seems to have missed one critical argument. The best
> value a user (any user) can contribute back to an open source software
> is "actually" using it. Any software that does not get used is
> deadware.
>
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Free Software does not force you to contribute, in any sense. Just using the
Free Software is a huge contribution. What was the initiating point for Free
Software development? Help, Humanity, Open Sharing, no restrictions and cost
bridges. So do not ask a person to either use and contribute, else drop
using it;

The author seems really mad over his/her own-dig reasons, and tried to
connect things well for the article presentations. I am against it.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Event Driven programming in Linux

[Ravi Kumar]

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:38 PM, sayan goswami  wrote:

> HiCan anybody advise me on how to write event driven codes in C or C++
> for Linux systems. Also, suggest an IDE for C/C++ in linux (other than code
> blocks)
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Meeting on 6 dec

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On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Linux Lingam  wrote:

> a bit too late to suggest a meeting at the JNU?
>
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Friends, I was really excited that it would be my first experience being
together with you people. Almost prepared, but my bad luck. I am engaged for
almost 3 hours from 12:00 Noon. And it will take me almost 40 mins (to 1hr
as per delhi traffic pattern) to get there at Dilli Haat. I am not certain
if I will make it, but my wish is to be there. Can someone give me your
mobile no. so that I can communicate.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Meet in Delhi on the 6th Sunday Afternoon - Any one interested

[Ravi Kumar]

I would also like to come and enjoy some talks.

Dilli haat INA Market
>
+1


>
> CP
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Giving up the GIMP is a sign of Ubuntu's mainstream maturity - A rebuttal

[Ravi Kumar]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Ramnarayan.K wrote:

> Hi
> . DVD's have become quite
> ubiquitous, prices of DVD's now are less than what CD's where at the
> time of the first Ubuntu distribution.
>

Who cares about the price of DVD vs CD. The actual aim supposed to have a CD
image rather than DVD, so that users can spend less download bandwidth and
get the latest Ubuntu. If you want to have those extra dropped packages, you
can still download and install (usign apt-get/synaptics). More new drivers,
support for hardware integrated in Install CD would probably require more
space. And CD isn't getting bigger in storage. So how this would be tackled?

I think this is really not a problem if you have online repository access.
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[ubuntu-in] Google Chrome for Linux

[Ravi Kumar]

Google Chrome for Linux (particularly Ubuntu/Debian) is out. This is not
available as a alpha/beta or release, but just fetched from development
channel.
I downloaded the DEB, installed, and wow.. its fast. Still have to check it
if it crashes in heavy load and lots of flash websites. But its impressive.

The look and feel is same as of Windows release.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Firefox in ubuntu: online transactions

[Ravi Kumar]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Kartik S  wrote:

>
>  I tried paying my BSNL landline and mobile bills online using Firefox 3.0.
> I could complete my landline transaction, but not my Cellone using firefox.
> I also tried user agent switcher( Internet explorer) . Ultimately I
> succeeded using windows xp in  virtual box(using IE of course).
>


Yes, there are many sites, which proudly say they work on IE only. I cannot
remember, but perhaps PNB bank site even says "For secure transaction, use
IE only" and works with IE only. I don't know why? Mainly this is not wrong
with the PNB, but those Software Giants in India, which has most faith in
Microsoft technologies and had never peeked out of their room. They may not
be knowing about the wornderful opensource available to us and the bleeding
edge technology.

So, perhaps, while browsing these sites, you won't be able to perform the
transaction. You can try to use the IE4Linux (i guess the name is correct)
on Ubuntu for those sites, or can have Windows on VirtualBox for such
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Sound problem with Ubuntu 9.04 on Compaq Presario CQ40-330TU

[ravi kumar]

I had installed Fedora11 on same laptop in different partition. Sound is
working properly with it. But on Ubuntu 9.04 problem is still there :-(

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:24 AM, ravi kumar wrote:

> I had tried all these volume control changes in alsa-mixer. But no luck.
> Still I can't hear any sound.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ravi
>
> 2009/7/9 Mallikarjun 
>
>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:27 AM, ravi kumar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>>  I tried installing Ubuntu 9.04 on one my freind's new compaq laptop
>>> [Model: Presario CQ40-330TU].
>>> Installation was successful without any hiccups. Except sound everything
>>> seems to be working fine at first place.
>>>
>>> I tried many of the workarounds suggested in Ubuntu forumsto fix this
>>> sound issue. But none of them are solving mine problem.
>>> Please help me in fixing this sound issue.
>>>
>> On all new installations the volume will be so less that it cannot be
>> heard when you play some media, right click on volume button --> open volume
>> control --> increase front and volume, hopefully fix the problem.
>>
>>>
>>> [r...@localhost ~]$ lspci -vv | grep Audio
>>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
>>> Controller (rev 03)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Sound problem with Ubuntu 9.04 on Compaq Presario CQ40-330TU

[ravi kumar]

I had tried all these volume control changes in alsa-mixer. But no luck.
Still I can't hear any sound.



Thanks,
Ravi

2009/7/9 Mallikarjun 

>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:27 AM, ravi kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>  I tried installing Ubuntu 9.04 on one my freind's new compaq laptop
>> [Model: Presario CQ40-330TU].
>> Installation was successful without any hiccups. Except sound everything
>> seems to be working fine at first place.
>>
>> I tried many of the workarounds suggested in Ubuntu forumsto fix this
>> sound issue. But none of them are solving mine problem.
>> Please help me in fixing this sound issue.
>>
> On all new installations the volume will be so less that it cannot be heard
> when you play some media, right click on volume button --> open volume
> control --> increase front and volume, hopefully fix the problem.
>
>>
>> [r...@localhost ~]$ lspci -vv | grep Audio
>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
>> Controller (rev 03)
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
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>> Ravi
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[ubuntu-in] Sound problem with Ubuntu 9.04 on Compaq Presario CQ40-330TU

[ravi kumar]

Hi Folks,

 I tried installing Ubuntu 9.04 on one my freind's new compaq laptop
[Model: Presario CQ40-330TU].
Installation was successful without any hiccups. Except sound everything
seems to be working fine at first place.

I tried many of the workarounds suggested in Ubuntu forumsto fix this sound
issue. But none of them are solving mine problem.
Please help me in fixing this sound issue.

[r...@localhost ~]$ lspci -vv | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 03)


Thanks in advance.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] good pdf viewer and editer for ubuntu 8.10

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Evince is one of the best PDF reader... I have acrobat and evince, but most
of time I use Evince.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:33 AM, ambika divya  wrote:

> Hello all ,
> I need a good pdf viewer and also good pdf  editer for ubuntu 8.10.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu-IN Hosting Issues

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On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Aanjhan R  wrote:

> Hello fellow Ubunteros,
> Now the hosting provider has
> doubled their rates and we would require about 9000 INR per year to
> keep running the show.
>


I would strongly suggest you SliceHost. WebFaction is good, but you get your
home directory to work with, and mostly CGI instance script for apache
process. Though you can host most of the things there, still you will feel
restrictions.

SliceHost gives you one slice of Linux(there is the choice of Linux, and
ubuntu is in the list), means whole linux VM on Zen for you to control, you
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Mumbai: we will not be divided

[Ravi Kumar]

Ok,
Since this place is not for any such discussions. You can mail me
personally, and before I go to sleep now, I want to say something.

Just breaking rule a little, since no other easier way seems out.

WHile there was Terrorist attack, do you think it is good idea to flood
people saying CONGRESS is not good or else. That is real stupidest thing I
ever have seen. They want to cash every moment.
Another instance, be it Awaz or anything, any NGO, do they have people with
brain. Do you think if we all go there, visit the site and write our
sympathy, will cause Terrorist to flee away and never come since Awaz
Intelligents have gathered Geeks and peoples on their site. This is real
bullshit. I don't see any point in gathering and asking them to SMS (as
Delhi FM Radio channels are doing), or write to show the strength. When will
these people work with mind , intelligently. Instead, they should have made
people aware of many things.

And much funnier thing, FM Channel RJs were all cursing the attack, got my
sympathy, and at last asked people "Come, Join Hands, to show we are all
together to Fight, to do so write FOO BAR and send to ", huh, and there
they lost the faith. Theywant to make money every SMS on this.

So these people are making money out of everything.

So what Instead.

Here is the awareness, STOP PIRACY
PIRACY FUNDS TERRORISM. IF YOU BUY MOVIES pirated CD/DVD/SOFTWARE, you are
funding for the Bomb and carrier which will soon be delivered to you.
More than 90% of these are channelled from Pakistan, where terrorist gangs
supporters release theses new movies/Music CD/DVDs , software CDs etc (with
master copy and cover print), send them to India and other places., where
these are duplicated and delivered. This million $$ business funds those
terrorists and Ibrahim. Watch carefully, in some CDs you will find
advertisements and Studio ads from Pakistan.

Other way,
Narcotics/DRUGS, which again are supplied from Pakistan. When taliban
covered Afganistan, drug production rised to 700%.

The Fake Currency, which again from Pakistan to Nepal to India. Rs 100 is
sold for 45-60, which is put in market and huge profit is made in Business.

These are the things we should take care of and minimize their Funds. Play
with Mind and let them vanish. How many NGO s does that, be it Awaz?

I used to get some movies from friends to watch for my Weekends, but since
these all are pirated, I will now stick to buy movies, or watch in Movie
Hall or just download free videos and clipsfrom Internet for Entertainment,
but never fund the Terrorism.

Previously, I used to work on Windows, Pirated Windows XP, but thanks now, I
shifted to Linux and enjoying it. in Software, now I don't pay terrorist,
and never get crashes.


And at last, sorry for writing this long speech, but as people are curious
on my previous post, I though I should just convey at last in chain.
I request, do not post anything regarding this topic from now. I would
happily answer your Q's and accept flame if you want on my personal ID <
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

and hope moderator understands waht I want to tell.

Thanks





On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Easwar Hariharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Ravi Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> This is real bullshit.
>> While our police and army were engaged in fighting, without taking care of
>> their life, these politicians and stupid mailers are finding their business
>> in it.
>>
>> Everyone was stick to TV to get the progress,
>> and these donkeys  were itching his a** sending bulk SMS to everyone in
>> Delhi.
>> Can you people get out of your business mind for some time. and
>> Everyone, Please dont watch their sites growing their revenue.
>>
>> And ignore these people who are no less than antisocial.
>>
>> Dude,actually not.Avaz is a NGO.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Mumbai: we will not be divided

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This is real bullshit.
While our police and army were engaged in fighting, without taking care of
their life, these politicians and stupid mailers are finding their business
in it.

Everyone was stick to TV to get the progress,
and these donkeys  were itching his a** sending bulk SMS to everyone in
Delhi.
Can you people get out of your business mind for some time. and
Everyone, Please dont watch their sites growing their revenue.

And ignore these people who are no less than antisocial.


On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 6:02 PM, tabankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *LONG LIVE MOTHER INDIA!!!
> LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE OF INDIA!!!*
>
>We heartily and sincerely- regret,condole our feelings to the families
> of the dead and injured.
>   We salute to all those brave-hearted soldiers and the common innocent
> people,those who gave up their lives...
>
>   * INDIA AND ITS PEOPLE,OURSELVES' SHALL REMAIN UNITED,STAND UNITED
> AGAINST ALL ODDS THAT MAY COME...*
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Arvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just signed an urgent message calling for unity following the attacks in
>> Mumbai. Read the email below - Thanks
>>
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>>
>> Dear friends across India and the world,
>>
>> We're all feeling the shock of the awful attacks in Mumbai. All our hearts
>> go out to the victims and their families.
>>
>> The attacks were aimed at our people, our prosperity and our peace. But
>> their top target was something else: our unity. If these attacks cause us to
>> turn on each other in hatred and conflict, the terrorists will have won.
>> They know that hatred and chaos feed on division. They also know that as
>> radical extremists, their only hope of winning is by turning the rest of us
>> against each other.
>>
>> Let's deny them that victory. We're launching a message to extremists on
>> all sides and all our political leaders, one that will soon be published in
>> newspapers across India and Pakistan. The message is that these tactics
>> aren't working, that we're more united than ever, united in our love and
>> support to each other, and determined to work together to stop violent
>> extremism. If millions of people sign it, our message will be unmistakable,
>> click below to sign it and please forward this email widely:
>>
>> http://www.avaaz.org/en/india_undivided/98.php/?cl_tf_sign=1
>>
>> It's time to speak out, let's do it together.
>>
>> Thanks
>> 
>>
>> OPENTRACK
>>
>> You are receiving this email because someone sent it to you via the
>> "tell-a-friend" tool at Avaaz.org. Avaaz retains no information about
>> individuals contacted through this tool. Avaaz will not send you further
>> messages without your consent--although your friends could, of course, send
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Intrepid Release Party - Bangalore

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Hi Folks,

Me too interested to attend this party!.


Thanks,
Ravi

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Aanjhan R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Aditya M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Venue: Cafe Coffee Day, (1st Floor), Near JNC, Koramangala
> >> Date: Friday Oct 31st 2008.
> >> Time: 7pm.
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> Good old memories of living in that area!!! Will definitely miss this one!
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Need help installing gui (ubuntu-desktop) in ubuntu server hardy!

[Ravi Kumar]

look at 'aptoncd' package, you can select pckgs with its dependencies
auto selected, and burn the resultant iso. just install ubuntu and
apton pckg, and load cd packages offline. i hope this is what you are
looking for

On 9/21/08, Rizwan Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Config:
> OS (Host): Windows XP pro sp2
> Middle ware: VMWARE Server
> OS (Guest): Ubuntu server Hardy 8.04.1
>
> I have updated my Ubuntu server "sudo apt-get update".
> But during installing GUI with these command "sudo apt-get install
> ubuntu-desktop", it takes 3+ hours.
> How to download all package manually which is carry out during "sudo apt-get
> install ubuntu-desktop" in Ubuntu server.
> Or can I install these GUI (Ubuntu-desktop) using Ubuntu Desktop image file,
> as I have download Ubuntu-desktop image too.
>
>
> Please help me in this issue.
>
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[ubuntu-in] Strange Internet Experience on Ubuntu Linux

[Ravi Kumar]

Hi,
I am facing strange Internet experience on my Ubuntu system. I have a system
with Dual Booting, Linux/Ubuntu and Windows XP. Airtel Broadband connection
is with Beetel Modem interface to ethernet (not usb).
Now,
I can open Google.com, can search. I can open Gmail, read/send mails.
i can open citibank india page.
I can ping any site, and the Ip is resolved quickly (ping shws the IP
Address and also pings ).
I can open a site (cannt disclose the adderss, my companies internal site),
using IP address (no name regsited for that server).

BUT,
I cannot open any other site. I can search but when i click the link in
search result page, it just says,. "Waiting for site_name" and then nothing
happens for long. I telnet to yahoo.com port 80, issued GET /index.html but
nothing happened, just "Remote host closed the connection"

For all sites, it says "Waiting " and then nothing happens. This is really
strange.In google translate, I opened youtube.com and that opened, but not
the images or links which has direct requested to original server. Talked to
airtel guys, but let me tell you, they are the dumbest technicians in the
world (at least at customer care center). I have bad experince with them.
Let me share that to you people:
Once I called Airtel Broadband Customer care, and asked, wht is the Gateway
address for modem to airtel network, and they said 192.168.1.1 I explianed
the fact to them tat this is modem, which is gateway foir my computer. The
guy thought for sometime and trhen said, 192.168.1.1
I shouted and he ran to call senior officers, said he knows the address and
can tell you. The senior person came and I
had to brief everything again, and at last he said, "Sir please write down,
the gateway address is 192.168.1.1, and that is used for everything, from
computer to modem, from modem to airtel, wven we here use the same"

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Drupal in ubuntu

[Ravi Kumar]

Seems you are missing the Vital information on setting the MAIL HOST.
PLease attach the log file, adn settings snippets where you configured the
mailhost.



On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:41 PM, mallikarjun arjun <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah you are right but should i get domain name first to try or  without
> that only i can try.
> I gave domain name as gmail.com :-)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Mehul Ved <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> On 8/25/08, mallikarjun arjun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Nothing helps still the same error.
>>
>> Wow, we have psychic powers. No information on what you did, what is
>> failing. Please check the logs at /var/log related to drupal it might
>> help us find the problem. I am more or less certain that your mail
>> server isn't configured or started.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Hardy Repositories on DVD

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oh, sorry for whatever statement came from my side :)
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Hardy Repositories on DVD

[Ravi Kumar]

Look What I have found.
http://www.zyxware.com/ designer has stolen everything except color of
http://www.webwiseone.com/
Uhh, what a creativity :)

Keep it up. Why reinvent the wheel when there are lots available, just color
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Re: [ubuntu-in] The power of linux in embedded systems

[Ravi Kumar]

Reading the message a little, I thought I should point you all to some good
direction rather than discussing Junk.

First of All, before you propose something, have always in mind that
Millions of Pure Intelligent Humans out here are working on OpenSource and
Linux. So they might have already thought that, or maybe even worst that
whatever you are thinking isn't even in the road.. So you should research
and think/justify (yourself) a little before pointing. And be out of Virtual
world. Read about the Boot Loaders and OPerating System's style of loaders.

For beginners, you (most people) will always find Linux distro's frustrating
initially, because you know Windows. Later you will stick to Linux and play
(really) and find if that stupid windows work can be done here in Linux
(Just not saying Windows is baD). If every Operating System Vendors would
come in a meeting and final  a standard for Boot Loaders, then make it Open
(OpenSource), I think your wish would be accomplished. But thats not
feasible from business point of views of those closed source companies and
enterprises.

And for your information, Ubuntu is bigger in News and happenings rather
than Vista.. Google it. It doesn't mean how many people knows the name/brand
(in case your statistics again got deviated).
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Re: [ubuntu-in] System administrator to enable user sharing- how?

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On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:03 PM, 74yrs old <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lists.
> How to create administorID and password or  any alternative solution to
> overcome the problem noted below. In ubuntu, it appears there is no
> provision to  create password for "root" or "administrator".whereas in other
> distros there is provision to create password for "root". Since I newbie to
> Ubuntu 8.04 I request valuable guidance. *
>
>
> *


Hi, for security in ubuntu, the use of sudo is preferred. root user is
assigned random password, afaik. But if you want to set the password for
root, that is very simple.
$ sudo passwd root

Enter the user's password to get access through sudo, and then passwd
program runs with root priviledges.

Prefer running programs with sudo if administrative right is needed.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Python editor/IDE

[Ravi Kumar]

in python, most of time you would love playing with IDLE, if you use it. Its
a very simple and light editor. Otherwise, for full fledge project
development (don't like opening single file instances in every IDLE windows)
the try
ECLIPSE + pyDEV
and new OPenKOMODO
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Re: [ubuntu-in] SSH Forwarding how to?

[Ravi Kumar]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Please guide me how can I enable ssh tunneling in such, I read many
> online
> > documents, but could not get the grip over the theory,
> >  Also, for C i would like B as transparent. that is same port 2401 on B
> > would be forwareded to A:2401
>
> SSH has a built-in option for a SOCKS proxy, which may be what you're
> looking for. See http://www.plenz.com/tunnel-everything for details on
> this and other options for tunneling traffic over SSH.
>
> Udhay
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Sorry but this isn't what I am looking for my friend. I want a dedicated ssh
server exposed to internet, and people can connect to it through those
available clients which support internally ssh proto, else the client side
can use some ssh like Putty to create a local forwarded connection for the
tunnel.

So,  I need some guidance in setting up the server side, how to forward the
traffic (in this case cvs traffic) to some other remote server serving the
cvs.
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[ubuntu-in] SSH Forwarding how to?

[Ravi Kumar]

Hi friends,
I have a server which cannot be accessed through Internet. Now, I want to
expose a service to internet, but in secure way. So I choose SSH Port
forwarding...
The scenario is:

Server A host a service i.e CVS on port 2401 (default_)
Server B has SSH service running.

Both A and B are in local network.

Now computer C from far world needs access to that service on A, so I want
to tunnel the communication between B and C for A-C communication.

Something such as : [A : cvs] <--> [B : sshd] <---
tunnel ->[C]

Please guide me how can I enable ssh tunneling in such, I read many online
documents, but could not get the grip over the theory,
Also, for C i would like B as transparent. that is same port 2401 on B would
be forwareded to A:2401

again  that would be :   [A : 2401] <-> [B : 2401]
<--- ssh tunneling-->[C]

Please guide me, also suggest me some more secure options for such, but only
opensource.
I want ssh authentication with public/private key [optional]


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Re: [ubuntu-in] phoenix24 wants to keep up with you on Twitter

[Ravi Kumar]

Hi,
You know what is this. When you register to some this sort of social
services, they ask you for GMAIL/YAHOO/MSN etc account login in their next
page, and skipping that page is little tricky. So decieved person logins
with their email account and these service bastards copies all the emails
from address book adn sends automatic mails to we.
Huh, just a misuse.

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:11 PM, gaurish sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi phoenix24,
> Please ensure you post appropriate topics On this List.
> Topics like this are considered as SPAM.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] how to get sify broadband in ubuntu7.10

[Ravi Kumar]

single voice may not be effective to wake BSNL or Sify.
Anyway, the time i had sify, I used to do, login in Windows, connect Sify,
then remove the Network wire, adn restart the comp. in Linux and there you
go. *** Since sify has static MAC-IP list based connection, so please be
sure that your Network Interface Card has not been assigned different MAC
Addr by yourself.

The sify client binaries available is a pain in *donkey*. That installs, you
need to configure it as  a service, run it with lot stupid step to find the
cooonection which keeps breaking in just 5 mins or less. and maybe that
linux client is now old enough to try, since Sify has revised the method and
released newwer version of the client.
The OVERALL thing is: sift really sucks. Even in connection quality, help,
maintinance and most prominently Linux support. Even Window$ support is
worst in sify.

On Feb 10, 2008 12:32 AM, Raseel Bhagat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Feb 10, 2008 12:23 AM, Harikrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  But before that I tried contacting the BSNL helpdesk. Not
> > surprisingly, the lady who attended was like " huh, Linux what ?"
> >
> > My point was, AFIK, none of the ISPs are supporting linux users. And I
> > would
> > be pleased if some one proves me wrong.
> >
>
> You are not wrong. But as a protest, you must atleast threaten  BSNL (or
> whoever your ISP is) that if they do not start supporting Linux , you will
> close your connection. I think eventually they will have to do something
> about it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-in] what is the root password for LiveCD(ubuntu7.04/7.10)

[Ravi Kumar]

sudo su -
thats all.
It won't ask you password on LiveCD

On Jan 12, 2008 1:04 PM, 74yrs old <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> For the purpose of compiling source code in gcc - in Live CD as experiment
> . I have *not installed* in HDD as such question of my password does
> arise.
> Only I want to know "*default root password * " for *Live CD *created by
> Ubuntu
> regards
>
> On Jan 12, 2008 12:25 PM, Prashanth Ninan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Why would you want to do that when you can do everything that you need
> > to with sudo?
> >
> > If you still want to get the whole root thing, you could do 'sudo su -'
> > and enter your own password when prompted.
> >
> > -Prashanth
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: 74yrs old < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Ubuntu India Local Community 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:11:08 PM
> > Subject: [ubuntu-in] what is the root password for LiveCD( ubuntu7.04
> > /7.10)
> >
> > I am running LiveCD ubuntu 7.04 without installed.  In order to run
> > terminal as *root*
> > what is the password  or procedure to be followed to work in root (~)
> > not $
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Connecting Internet

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Hi, since there is no information provoded, everyone is guessing the things.
So, please provide some information:
Open gnome-terminal, (go into Application->Accessories->Termianl  OR press
Alt+F2 and enter "gnome-terminal")
Then in gnome-terminal shell, type ifconfig , whatever the result is, please
paste and send to us. Thanks

On 11/5/07, Kingsly John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> +++ Gagan Arora [2007-11-05 08:20:25]:
>
> > I guess part of the problem is that i also use a NETGEAR wireless router
> > (Model WGR614)... I use wireless to connect to my laptop that has
> windows
> > xp, this is running just fine.
> >
> > My D Link modem connects to this router and this router is connected to
> my
> > CPU (Desktop, which has Ubuntu/Linux). How to i set-up my router in
> linux
> > then?...
> >
> > Modem is set-up to gain IP adress automatically (DHCP)...
>
> You need to set the Ubuntu machine to use DHCP
>
> On an un-related note..
>
> Are you running pppoe on the DSL router or the Wifi router ?
>
> If you are running it on the DSL router you'll face problems with some
> apps/protocols because you are double NATed
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Eclipse for Gusty

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Download the Easy eclipse LAMP build. It has eclipse and PHP/Python plugins
with addition to work on HTML and CSS.
For javascript+CSS+HTML thing, no one can beat Aptana(as till now).


On 10/23/07, Mir Nazim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hey
>
> Guys whats the easiest and simplest way to download Eclipse for Gusty
> keeping download size minimum.
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> For now I just need PHP Dev Tools.(http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/)
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Re: [ubuntu-in] user experience design in ubuntu

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Hi,
That was a main target project for me too. Anyway, I could not get anyone
serious enough to take it, and we cannt approach Ubuntu core team just for
it.
So, what about the idea to create a working project, poeple will join it and
there would be discussion, whitepapers, drafts, final work and submission,
and other team will take the work and implement it.



On 9/18/07, Harikrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Amoung many other things, I am a  usability consultant by profession and
> would
> like to work with the ubuntu community to improve the user experience of
> ubuntu.
>
> can anyone give me any pointers ? do you know anyone-from india- who is
> working in the user experience field of ubuntu ? or any open source
> software
> for that matter ?
>
> I talked to a few people in #openusability, but not with much results.
> any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] [Fwd: MS, IBM fight to own office docs heats up]]

[Ravi Kumar]

Its really clear that Microsoft never gonna put whole things related to
OOXML into OpenSource and completely visible to others. The past stories of
Microsoft has already given many lessons to others.
For India, it should be a bg matter to decide. IT and computers industries
in India is growing faster than many others. Adopting MS technologies will
definitely lead us to constrained environment.

Anyway, there should be a quick vote on a site, where we Indians can put our
voices and opinion.

On 8/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> For your kind info
>
> (sorry for the cross posting)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ganeshtk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:44 AM
> To: lina
> Subject: MS, IBM fight to own office docs heats up
>
>
> MS, IBM fight to own office docs heats up
> 8 Aug, 2007, 0152 hrs IST,Harsimran Singh, TNN
>
>
>   HYPERLINK
> "http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-2263811,prtpage-1.
> cms" \nPrint
>
>
>
> NEW DELHI: The fight between world's biggest IT companies — Microsoft
> and IBM-Sun Microsystems combine — has landed on Indian shores. Come
> September 2 and India faces a deadline: to vote for making Microsoft's
> Open Office Extensible Markup Language (OOXML) as an ISO standard for
> electronic documents or not along with 123 other countries.
>
> But the Bureau of Indian Standards, which has to submit a vote on
> India's behalf seems clueless, despite less than a month to go for the
> deadline. Microsoft and rival ODF (Open Document Format) alliance led by
> IBM & Sun Microsystems are hurling accusations at each other. A meeting
> on the issue has been called on Wednesday by BIS.
>
> Sun Microsystems country director (government strategy) Jaijit
> Bhattacharya said, "About 160 technical issues have been identified with
> OOXML. OOXML does not seem to address its design goals. Moreover, no
> Indian organisation or institution was involved in the development of
> OOXML. If we do not have any say in the development of a standard, we
> lose out on the technological sovereignty. We do not see any standalone
> implementations of OOXML by an Indian firm unlike the ISO ODF standard."
>
>
> Microsoft, however, counters Sun's claims. A meeting has been called on
> Thursday by the government in which both parties will meet. Microsoft
> India's national technology officer Vijay Kapur counters Sun, "OOXML is
> an open standard and its specifications are fully documented. There is
> no royalty charged and it works on a covenant of not to sue. It does not
> recourse to any proprietary information held by Microsoft."
>
> "OOXML's design principles are based on the old binary format which is
> known only to a selective few, decided by Microsoft. There is no clarity
> by Microsoft on the same. OOXML is also not fully interoperable as the
> full fidelity of an Open Office (ODF) document is not maintained in MS
> Word or other OOXML based word processors," adds Mr Bhattacharya.
>
> ODF advocate IIT-Delhi assistant Prof P Vigneshwara IIavarasan clarifies
> the issue, "The politics behind the battle is clear. Microsoft wants to
> retain its over 95% market share in word processing documents in the
> garb of OOXML. But Sun Micro and IBM want to grab a pie of it and
> prevent Microsoft in its plans."
>
> He, however, confirms Sun Microsystems claims that a MS Word document is
> not fully interoperable with Open Office (by ODF) and hence not an open
> standard. A converter or translator has to be downloaded to convert one
> format to another. Experts say that adopting OOXML will make India
> locked into a particular vendor.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Hello from a new joinee

[Ravi Kumar]

yeah right, its for too young :P

On 4/22/07, shavinder singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


thanks for the welcome ravi,
No i havent tried edubuntu, thinking that maybe its for too young
students and thinking that all the packages would be available on ubuntu
too.
regards
nanbudh

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Welcome,
Which language do you teach?
Have you tested Edubuntu? Its tailored for Education purposes, schools.
Maybe you will like it and recommend to the Institution. :)

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> Hello everyone,
> I tried ubuntu last summer for the first time and liked it instantly. i
> have used open office and a bit of gimp and gaim. The main thing is i am
> completely in favour of the humanitarian spirit of ubuntu and would like to
> do my bit to promote ubuntu, open office, gimp, firefox etc. all ideas for
> this would be welcome. I am in teaching line(not computers but literature).
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Re: [ubuntu-in] New to uBuntu

[Ravi Kumar]

Ok Here is some thing you would like to know.
Although their are many linux flavors, but all are built with same concept,
just gabbing the packages, testing and bugfixing it, tuning and configuring
the sytem, pack and distribute. So, on everylinux you will be getting same
packages apart from some addons, which is system specific. Like Ubuntu uses
debians apt-get and synaptics with its own hardware database tweaked.
Redhat/Fedora uses Yum, suse got YaST etc...

now user friendly wise Ubuntu is ranked #1. Ubuntu is served in Enterprise
as well as Desktop too. If you want high performance, then you will have to
oil you own vehicle, go to Gentoo, which will take a long time compiling, i
m sorry, it is some days to compile the complete system, and you will evolve
from simple user to a Geek in some time, CUZ Gentoo needs a lot knowledge
before making a error freee compiled system. You will notice a little more
performance. But you can aslo do that on Ubuntu, with sources and
customizing the Kernel (that wat I do).
So, just try Ubuntu and if it doesnt fit in your personal taste and likes,
forget Linux. But keep in MInd, You started Windows knowing nothing,. so I
have seen people who have started with Linux when sits on Windows, yells
what a shit i m on.

This is true friend. You may not get some features on Linux that you are
finding on Windows, but you may wait or look for some alternatives (world is
full of Linux Geeks, find them on IRC)

As for installing Ubuntu on a partition with Windows (the dual Boot system),
its easy and perfect. You wont loose any data,  if you dont do your own
mistakes performing installation.
During installation, in selcting partition type, select manual
configuration, do the things there and go to install in that parition.
Install Grub in MBR(master boot record) and thats all.

On Ubuntu, under "computer"(nautilus), you will find your windows and other
partitions (FATs) where you can write and read the data. So, here in any
time you want to swap data, you can do so.

for paritioning disk, Linux has gParted/Gnome Disk Partition tool, which
will resize and do anything  you want. But for safety, you can do partition
on windows with whatever tools you prefer(if you have any, ie Acronis). Make
a partition for '/' and one 'swap'. thats all. Also, if you are  going to
try more distros and dont want to loose your works in /home then you can
have a parition /home which wont be deleted or cleared each time you install
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Hello from a new joinee

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Welcome,
Which language do you teach?
Have you tested Edubuntu? Its tailored for Education purposes, schools.
Maybe you will like it and recommend to the Institution. :)

On 4/22/07, shavinder singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello everyone,
I tried ubuntu last summer for the first time and liked it instantly. i
have used open office and a bit of gimp and gaim. The main thing is i am
completely in favour of the humanitarian spirit of ubuntu and would like to
do my bit to promote ubuntu, open office, gimp, firefox etc. all ideas for
this would be welcome. I am in teaching line(not computers but literature).
regards
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Re: [ubuntu-in] New to uBuntu

[Ravi Kumar]

Microsoft Outlook - >Evolution (you will evolve here better)
Messengers (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, IRC) all in just GAIM (no need for multiple
messengers, but there is no video chat in Y! supported here, also not voice,
you can use skype for voice though)
GIMP is a photo editor and photo creator too, if you are not the artist, you
may find it difficult to straight draw a line :)
FTP Client, there are many, like gFTP, and also you can add Firefox
extension for FTP client and servers tooo.
There are many multimedia(audio video player), but for best experience
install VLC and beep-media-player along with the system default totem and
Rythmbox. Also, you will have to install seperated required plugins, so u
need internet connection working on your installed Ubuntu. gstreamer is the
engine for all sort of audio and vids. so search for gstreamer plugins in
the package manager (synaptics)

Good luck

On 4/13/05, Jayesh @ Bangalore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I want to shift from windows platform to linux (ubuntu) platform
permanently.

As of now I use following applications in windows for my day to day
activity:

MS Office
Microsoft Outlook (Email Client)
Mozilla Firefox (Web Browser)
Messengers (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, IRC)
Photoshop
FTP Client
MP3, CD and DVD Audio and Video Player

So I want to know what are the application equivalent to these in uBuntu ?

MS Office -> OpenOffice.org
Mozilla Firefox -> Mozilla Firefox
Microsoft Outlook -> ?
Messengers (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, IRC) -> ?
Photoshop -> ? (GIMP is Photo Editor and not used for Creating Photos)
FTP Client -> ?
MP3, CD and DVD Audio and Video Player

It will be great help for me.

Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-in] VCD Problems

[Ravi Kumar]

I think PowerDVD for Linux is no more :)

On 4/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Satish Chandra wrote:
> On 4/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> dvd's play wihout a problem - totem just runs them. just vcd's have a
>> problem
>>
>
> Have you tried the Kaffeine player? I too couldn't get VCDs to play in
> Totem or VLC. But Kaffeine was able to play them.
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tried but same result

i guess the catch is how the software reads the vcd - will be giving
b.ghose's suggestions a try

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Hi, need sort of help

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OK, buddy :)
I will be there...
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Re: [ubuntu-in] A interesting read

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"personally feel coding using Vim or Emacs to be faster, efficient and
comfortable than using a GUI tool like Eric for my work."
BUt I think Working on Eclipse is much faster when you dont have to remember
all sort of syntax and when u satrt typing, the program assist you with
available options and also their descriptions. My dear friend, thats why
Eclipse got the fame, for being most intelligent and complete IDE for Java,
(also its immature plaugins, PHPand PyDev are there, worked on to make it
better).
For python I would suggest SPE.
VIM is a very good editor, plethora of functionality in it, but it walks
away from your mind, when you start on Eclipse. Eclipse also has automated
compiling on each save or with incremental typing, which instantly tells you
where your syntax is wrong.
It was a better development.
Simple theory is, in the lack of X server, we had only CLI. so we worked
hard to get most out of it. Then we got stable and mature X, satrted
improving the system and came GUI. Now in GUI, we have to progress and have
everything. Windows and MacOSx (for example) have much done on GUI. They too
have CLI tools (windows management tools for admins) to do the task over
network.
And those tools are pretty mature afaik. so there is no such issue what we
are doing it. It is fact and linux is evolving from CLI towards GUi and
lacks manything. Your argument is not justifiable my brother. Please try to
understand and contribute to make it better. We dont have time to fight over
the rule that we have many things,. World knows Linux is mature platform,
for Development and Server. Even Google uses Ubuntu at its Developers
platform. But when we talk about the common users, it doesnt onyl mean to
developers and testers and server admins. It includes all, like office and
home people too. Children and Moms too.
The complete freedom that is the aim of Linux isnt only to serve Developers
and Geeks, but to everyone. You know why india still is a pirate market even
the alternative Linux is free of costs with so many aaplications? People
just arent aware and if they try, most of them walk back to Windwos in
absence of finding a friendly environment.
Most of the time my system run on Ubuntu,
and for sometime i have to go to windows to do some game practice and
Dreamweaver tasks. Like flash designing too..
So, right now, Linux is not as mature as others are (in term of GUI tasks).
I read blog of a person who said Ubuntu is very easy and most user friendly
among other available Linux, but then he also admitted that he had to switch
back to his Mac after a week to do his task. He cannt over Linux.

Many people criticizes  over this matter, but hardly it comes that those
people agree and meet to do some revision (either in Facility or in idea)..
most of the time killed just arguing over this and making other understand
it.
But dear friend, it is very clear, get out of the hood and there is no shame
saying we have a hut. But we can make a Tajmahal, if we admit our hut and
work to pay some contribution.
Ok here is some facts you wont argue (as i think).. just experiment:
Windows Explorer performs tasks and navigation quite fast than Nautilus and
Konqueror (even in many files direcory c:\windows\system32 which contains
more than 2000 files on general PC). OUr nautilus hangs a little and takes
much time when we browse /usr/share/bin where there is also about 1800
files. Guess WHY?
Nautilus has many features yet to come, like user can choose which dir to
display thumbnail and many other things
Apache performance on Windows has been seen more aggressive  than on Linux,
same happens to MySQL

A python binary (blender Game) starts faster on Windows than Linux.

Why friend? if you have answer just opposite to me and want to throw some
flames over, then you are just making nothing out of it. Just admit and lets
contribute this summer time to our free and lovely tux. Everyone should get
over this bullshit arguments and just come my side, help write benchmarks
and performance bottlenecks. Also, we can contribute some time discussing
and finding what would be good for Gnome 3.0 (feature collections)...


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Re: [ubuntu-in] VCD Problems

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u r right.
Every data file format needs its decoder plugin for handling and
understanding the data in it.
MP3 has some issues, related to properietary licenses, so it is not shipped
with Linux as default. But you can install it from Internet.

You using Gnome, so go to gstreamer section and install good, bad and ugly
plugins to handle all sort of multimedia files.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] A interesting read

[Ravi Kumar]

Yeah, but think some other way. A Geek (a term for powerusers ;-) will
definitly do commandline. But here is the truth my brother. GUI is developed
beacuse it has some power to serve. The easy and accuracy and thus thrusting
your performance with less error and more productivity. You wont disagree.
Right, world changed from CLI to GUI.. Wordprocessors and many other
(Movies, picture viewer and editor etc) needs GUI. Have you seen the control
panel of Nasa footage, about discovery crash. There was a GUI in it to show
the graph.
Simply, GUI gives you the vision by forming pictures and graphs,
illustrations of whats happening. You know your friends by remembering the
face of their and relating that face with the name, and its voice. Now, when
a blind happens to be the case, he has nothing, so he better get practiced
remembering by feel and voice, and then relating that to name,. BUt there
the poor blind got compromise. Right.

Everywhere there is pictorial notation to remember the thing. And if the
notation got beauty, it gives more impact than other. Lke the most beautiful
lady/girl in your class, or circle.
Thats why GUI.
NOw what Central tools mean? LIke managing all the computers resources at
single place (it would be like doing all the things related to cricket in
your playground. Whenever you need that, you just head towards the
playground ad not waste your time thinking over some new solution. It can be
possible to make a central tool, for example running and configuring all
your services in Gnome-control panel, under service catagory, with solid
GUI, which lets you do everything possible thru cLI. that way, a noob even
can start and play with LAMP. right (just taking example).

GUI has an ultimate power, it can serve a noob to advance users, depends on
that quality of design.

HOw many people are comfortable with regular expression, and can do awk to
replace certain words by another words. Lets be in OO.org, it would be damn
easy for them, just replacing all.
There is the power of GUI.
NOw, we all have to admit, that we really lacks Central Managememt tools.
Think of this for a while, a Linux Management Tool, is a GUI where you can
manage all sort of things. If Apache package is installed on system, it will
put its own configuration module and information into that LMT (Linux
Management Tool) database, and will be automatically listed there. Also, the
initial launch of Apache will ask the Users about performing configuration,
doing all sort of things, and be fault tolerant, built in self intelligence.
That would be a sort of perfect application. Thats what we study in computer
sc, about those aspects.

In short, best GUI  gives you beauty and productivity, much higher than the
CLI.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Hi, need sort of help

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Wow,
Ok, I am here in Kamla Nagar, but we can meet anywhere.. like C.P.
If you have any contact number, let me know :)


On 4/21/07, Gaurav Mishra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 4/20/07, Ravi Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If anyone is from Delhi, and has downloaded Feisty, please let me know.
You
> can burn me a CD, and I will collect it.
> So, anyone from Delhi. Please Reply.
>
I am from ghaziabad and may be visiting noida or Delhi on monday , we
can definately arrange a meet.

mail me your contact number


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Re: [ubuntu-in] A interesting read

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Good to see pakistan-ubuntu team is doing very well.
Can we do something so our Government can shift to Linux. I was reading an
article in Newspaper, where it says, Microsoft is starting a new service. It
is cutting out some features out of Windows OS and Office, so that people in
poor or developing countries can use Office for just $4 (Rs 180 around)...
But again, it gives the sliced software, not whole.. anyway, Microsoft
always do such tricks.
So, when Government will accept Linux, it will go beyond current current
development.
Many countries have switched to Linux.

I have also read Mark Shuttleworth recent interview. He admitted that in
Enterprise, Linux can be deployed, but it lacks many central management
tools and deployement features, mainly GUI based, which is still to come.

Very true, I also found this. Linux is powerful and feature--rich in
command-Line, but when it comes to GUI, it lacks many thing. Even the GNOME
has not been much mature as WIndws Graphicals and OSX are. Not even KDE (KDE
is blotted with many options and tools, but it has been stated as much
developed and advance GUI, uhh, maybe due to QT, and good team behind it). I
personally like GNOME (dont know why, just matter of taste).

Anyway, my point was, that if we can do somethng for current developement,
along with Indic related issues. I am no good programmer, not a great
artist, but i am a good visualizer, and I always prefer to work in group.
Maybe, you are among the best programmers, so we can unite to do something
better.
One man can make a good software, but a team makes better than that. What do
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Re: [ubuntu-in] VCD Problems

[Ravi Kumar]

No specific answer, here is just sort of little information

When it says IO error, it means there is some problem reading the data file
in CD, maybe CD problem,, or maybe CDROM

But if u say DVD plays fine (In Linux), then i cannt suggest any thing.

Well, instead if VCD:///media/recorder

just use /media/recorder/path/to/file.dat

and see it it handles...
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Hi, need sort of help

[Ravi Kumar]

No buddy, actually it is a hardware problem. Writing and DVD read is not
performed.. but can read a CD, thats only Data CD, not VCD... aging hardware
and just have to buy another, but right now I dont have budget to buy a new
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[ubuntu-in] Hi, need sort of help

[Ravi Kumar]

Hello Friends,
I am happy that Feisty is out. I downloaded the ISO, but here is the bad
news. My CDWriter completely not writing anything... there is some hardware
issue with it, but it reads the CDs. Is COmbo drive, only reads CD, no DVDs.
LOL
so i am now waiting for shipit to send me CDs, long time to wait. But here
is what you can help me.

If anyone is from Delhi, and has downloaded Feisty, please let me know. You
can burn me a CD, and I will collect it.
So, anyone from Delhi. Please Reply.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ppl in Delhi?

[Ravi Kumar]

Hmm, when Roorkee will be in Delhi, It will be counted. Just Kidding. I was
just keen to know How many people are from Delhi, cuz I live in Delhi.
Also, it doesnt matter if people are from Delhi or somewhere else. Cuz, We
all are HUMAN...

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Roorkee counted??

Venkatesh Nandakumar
Undergraduate Student
IIT Roorkee

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> Let me know who among the members of Ubuntu-in are in Delhi..
> So, if you live in Delhi, reply me :)
> OK
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Re: [ubuntu-in] [Fwd: to know about ubuntu]

[Ravi Kumar]

Yeah, good,
But there wont be any cost using the Ubuntu, so as well, Ubuntu wont pay u
anything if you make several users.
Its just the Freedom.
Did Gandhi asked you to pay some to him, cuz he is fighting in DHOTI to
bring new era to India, SWATANTRA BHARAT.
After almost 60 years, We really enjoying Freedom. See the Development we
have now. ANd you might not have even dreamt of it, if we are not
independent.
Same is true in every field. If we get Freedom in our digital world, we will
be so much technically developed, I cannt tell you.
The proprietary  software and companies  just ignore knowledge sharing,
means preventing you to learn anything. Hey, why dont you pay some time
reading the EULA and other licenses from Microsoft. You will get pity, when
it says, Microsoft doest allow you to all the extents, and may seize the
right anytime if it seems appropriate. So what you paid for.

Its like Pepsodent will come out with its license like "Only one person at a
time, and once in day is allowed to use Pepsodent, and thats not more than 1
gm of it at a time. How will be life then, your family with its own
pepsodent. LOL

Thats why we are fighting Freedom. Give some time learning the benefits. And
also, it is more stable than Micro$oft windows, as far as i know, but little
slower than MS in GUI term.
Anyway, we got light, we have hope, and soon we will be in complete
daylight.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ppl in Delhi?

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YEah Friends, why not.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Mails

[Ravi Kumar]

That was typed, and that also is equal to +1
Forget the mistyped _
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[ubuntu-in] Ppl in Delhi?

[Ravi Kumar]

Hello Everyone,
Let me know who among the members of Ubuntu-in are in Delhi..
So, if you live in Delhi, reply me :)
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Mails

[Ravi Kumar]

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 7.10 is Gutsy Gibbon

[Ravi Kumar]

Thanks Amit, so be in contact, I am going to add your email in my address
book. OK
WHere r u in India?
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Camorama workin for anyone

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its in Universe
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 7.10 is Gutsy Gibbon

[Ravi Kumar]

Who want to put some of his creativity and effort compiling an feature and
usability request for GNOME-3 (proposal) this summer?
I am ready and with my experience with all the desktops and users available,
I am collecting data. Any artist too is needed to visualize the idea.
It will range from core gnome features and ideas to gnome application
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 7.10 is Gutsy Gibbon

[Ravi Kumar]

yup, I know... good to know it is going to happen. But still Ubuntu needs a
lot in development to come yet at Desktop.
I think, GNOME developers should get some coffee and sit back to think upon
the absolutely new release, Gnome 3, with full research over the usability
and look.
Ubuntu should thrust the GNOME development. I looked at Gnome homepage,
about the ideas pounding over new features and look, requests, etc about the
Gnome-3.
They are proposing many things, but all are bullshit to some-extent.

Can we go for some research, over this, HOW NEW GNOME-3 SHOULD BE...
not only look, but all ideas related that you want should be there to make
it nice evolution in Desktop Era.

Be positive thinking it, We need it

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this October is Gutsy Gibbon, It was introduced by Mark Shuttleworth,
early today, this release will come full composite as default, according
to Mark."

Read on slashdot here at
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/04/13/0557251.shtml

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Hello There

[Ravi Kumar]

Yes you are right, I was annoyed by this, and still when someone sends me
email from Yahoo with lots of advertisements(though Gmail asks if the
externals is shown or not), but if makes some kind of stupid presence.
Anyway, now Gmail is open to all, you can get it.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Is IISDLL is virus how to remove it

[Ravi Kumar]

Ok, can u boot into ur Edubuntu and  then go in that direcoty and delete it.
If there is more than one file distributed at many places as copy, then you
can search it in nautilus and then Delete it.
There you can also install Avast (much reliable than AVG), and I am sure it
will delete it. But since its installation wont get infected, you can just
boot into safe mode and do the task.
Also clamav on your ubuntu can help scanning the windows partition. Anyway,
you got reason to play, so PLAY :)
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Hello There

[Ravi Kumar]

HI Smart Guy, hey u still using Yahoo :P

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> Hi Guys,
> I am Ravi, new to this community. I have been using
> Ubuntu for last 2 years,
> but now I came here in this community to share and
> submit my works. :)

Welcome Ravi! What do you have to submit?

> Tell me one thing. Is this community focussed only
> towards Indian related
> Ubuntu solutions, like language pack development
> etc.

More or less yes. However, I guess, that's not the
*only* criteria. Visit http://www.ubuntu-in.org to
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Help on projects in open source

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So you are new. Well, programming language  is just a personal preference.
THe main core is common language paradigms and your algorithm. All thing
depends on your view/perspective to look at the problem. So, you will
completely be lost in this circle, which language to choose and what to
make.
Here is some information you will find useful:
System Programming and Web Programming/Scripting:
If you want to develop system oriented programs or solutions. These are
projects like building kernel, system tools (like copy, paste, grep, awk),
compilers (perl, php, python)... these types of work are done usually in
C/C++ etc middle level languages. (Assembly is not preferred, though it
produces lot optimized code, but u cannt do OOP, etc in assembly, so large
projects are never accomplises).

Java is good programming language, through which you can make cross platform
applications (can be run on Linux, Windows, OSX etc, without recoding, just
compile for specific platform).

Python is best in features (afaik).. I will tell u later how.
NOw if you want application programming, on Linux, you can use C, C++, Java,
Python, Perl, PHP and lot others (yes PHP too, you can pack and make PHP
codes executable, google about it).
For having GUI (Graphical User Interface), you have many libraries. On
Linux, it GTK+ for C, GTKMM for C++, QT for C++ , PyGTK for Python, GTK for
PHP and many other too (like motif, tk). But use what modern desktops
standards are (GTK+/GTKMM, QT).

Now comes Web programming, solutions and scripting. There is HTML all know
LOL. (XHTML is now standard). Web applications can be made using PHP,
python, Java (JSF, JSP), ASP (hell no), .NET (Mono for Linux .NET) etc.
Then there is Javascripts. Its cool, though not much flourished scripting
language. NOw you know there are bunch of solutions to a single Problem,
"Which Programming Language to use"?

And take my word, its all you to decide, just analyze the problem and decide
the solution. Give much time deciding other factors too, it will give you
more insight of your problem and quality of your judged solution.
And never ask this question, haha. Else, others will have to write this much
again.

As I said, Python is Great, WHY?
Python cannt produce final output as size and speed optimized as C and C++
will.
But then why python. Because it got many things in its bag. Its powerful
because you can write complex solutions in just few lines of codes and it
does job well. But since the python interpretor will be always there in
middle to execute the task, it will be little slow (but u cannt feel it on
modern computers).
Also, its like scripting language, write the code in somefile.py and execute
it. No need to compile. If u want executable, you can make it.
You can do great job. This was about the application programming using
python. You can do web-application programming using python too. Just like
PHP. but better than PHP, as u can implement the OOP much easily and program
like standard, where PHP lacks this style.
Python is much performing than PHP. Python is used by Google, NASA etc in
various task, other than C++/C.
So if u learn Python, you can do Application and web Programming . If you
are master in one programming language, you can learn others in short  time.
Believe me.
And experts dont evolve in little time. It takes 8-10 years for a person to
be master or expert. Its the research i read on web, where it was shown how.
So have patience. Bye BYe

If you cannt decide what now, just stick to C++, whre you will learn the
main funda of programming. Concentrate on your algorithms and way of finding
solutions. OK
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[ubuntu-in] Hello There

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Hi Guys,
I am Ravi, new to this community. I have been using Ubuntu for last 2 years,
but now I came here in this community to share and submit my works. :)

So how you people doing? ;)
Tell me one thing. Is this community focussed only towards Indian related
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[ubuntu-in] I am New

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Hi Friends,
I am new to this Indian community. I have been using Ubuntu since 5.04, and i liked it very much, than other Linux.
I am a Computer Sc. Student, Delhi University. I love programming, and hacking (offtopic). HEre, i have been using Linux since i bought my computers 3 years back. I have tried many Linux, Redhat9.0 to Mandrake 9/2006... Yoper to Router Linux, Arch , Gentoo , Suse, Knoppix, PHLAK, Knoppix-std, RHLE 3 etc, and now i m stick to Ubuntu.

 
I am currently researching on Desktop implementation of Linux, "Home Desktop Linux OS". I want to make Linux perfect for Home, SOHO, office works and be a complete choice for users to use it. Currently Linux is in its heavy development phase, where it has many things to develope and maintain, optimize and make perfect. Its still incomplete for Desktop.

 
Here, in Ubuntu-In, i request people with common interests to join with me, and make some +ve good development.
There are many minor to major projects available to work on. But, i am a human, i need help from other human, to serve the humanity.
Please let me know, if I can have a new task embed in this ubuntu-in LoCo,.
 
Notethat my work isn;t local specific. It will be for Ubuntu mainstream.
 
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