Re: XpLike Ubuntu again
Hi, I have heard of a Windows-Like distro. I believe it used to be called Lindows, but because Microsoft got their panties in a bunch the name was changed to Linspire. I have never tried it, buut I believe it is Ubuntu based. If you do try it, I would be interested in knowing what accessibility is like on it. Personally, I have not found a more accessible distro than Arch Linux. It takes a bit to set up, but once it is going it runs like a dream. HTH Storm On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 01:14:24AM -0800, Robert Cole wrote: I wish that I could be more help in this situation. Seeing that it [XPLike Ubuntu] is based off of Ubuntu 11.04, I am guessing that it was using something prior to GNOME Shell, something n the GNOME 2.x cycle. I have seen some distributions which try to present a Windows-like desktop which use either cinnamon or KDE. While KDE is working to improve upon its accessibility, I cannot say the same for Cinnamon. The last I that I tried the Cinnamon desktop environment, it was only fractionally functional with either magnification or with Orca. Although not Linux based, I have over the years heard tidbits about ReactOS [1], a free and open source operating system which has a goal of being binary compatible with Windows NT-based applications.. As far as XPLike goes, it could be that some accessibility components are missing. I found this to be the case when I tried to use Linux Mint over a year ago. I wish that I could be of more help to you. Take care. REFERENCES: [1] http://www.reactos.org/ On 11/08/2013 10:56 PM, Gabe Vega - CEO Commtech LLC wrote: Unfortunately you will get that with Linux users sometimes. It's either Linux or nothing, you bunches or nothing, this just show that distro or nothing, for some reason it is common to have that behavior in the Lenix community. Fortunately you have people like me, who use a variety of distro's operating systems and computer platforms too many in fact to actually stick to and be loyal to one. Do I favor one yes, and that is Mac OS but hey, what can I say. I also have Windows virtual machines, and Linux and , they all get the job done. And that's what is important. please note, I am speaking this message via my iPhone and Siri. If their spelling mistakes or word mistakes that you know or understand. Please take it for what it is, I apologize for not editing this message before sending. Gabe Vega - CEO Commtech LLC The leader of computer support, training and web development services Web: http://commtechusa.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc Facebook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc Email: i...@commtechusa.net mailto:i...@commtechusa.net Phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 710 Fax: (480) 535-7649 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Lenny ger...@cableone.net mailto:ger...@cableone.net wrote: this will be my last post on this, because either folks have no clue of what I was asking about, or they are so wrapped up in their own flavor of Ubuntu that the only advice I got was to try either a newer version, or try vinux. I have extensively used Ubuntu, and it has gotten me out of binds with my windows systems in the past, like saving data. and I have tried vinux and I prefer a clean Ubuntu to it. but the Os of my choice is windows, XP, with all of its flaws. Clearly there are Linux users out there like me, such that a distro of Ubuntu was made to act like windows. I guess I was barking up the wrong tree on this list with my quest for the benefit of someone's experience of this distro of Ubuntu. Thanks though. Glenn -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- -- Registered Linux user number 508465: https://linuxcounter.net/user/508465.html My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 Brains for dinner, brains for lunch, brains for breakfast, brains for brunch. Brains at every single meal, why can't we have some guts? The Misfits - Braineaters -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 10.10 and pidgin
Hi,
There was a bug in atk that causes this problem. A patch has been made
for it, but if you don't want to compile atk from source you can disable
spell check in pidgen under tools, preferences, conversation tab. Just
uncheck the spell check box.
I am not sure if this will fix the not being able to use arrow keys
problem, but hopefully.
HTH
Storm
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On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 11:26 -0300, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
Hi all.
Yesterday I tried ubuntu 10.10, and Found two problems.
1. Pidgin crashes very often.
2. I can not use the left and right arrow when typing a message.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
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Re: testing ubuntu 10.10
Hi, I haven't tried it myself, but just to make sure you aren't having the same problem as in previous versions, check under appearance, visual, and make sure it is set to none. the normal causes it to not be able to switch to the panels. HTH Storm -- Registered Linux user number 508465: http://counter.li.org/ Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/stormdragon2976 Get yourself a Frostbox: http://www.frostbitesystems.com/ On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 21:44 -0300, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote: Hi all. Today I gave a try in ubuntu 10.10 beta. I didn't find an way to access the bottom and the top panel via keybord. Previously I pressed ctrl+alt+tab. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: SIP and Orca?
Hi, I'd like to know this too. Something more accessible than Skype and less flakey then Ekiga. Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 16:47 -0500, Dave Hunt wrote: I am unable to use Ekiga with Orca. Once a connection is established, there is a bit of sound, then nothing. When I try to hang up, Orca becomes unresponsive, and the computer fan races. My only option seems to be killing the entire x session. I'm using Karmic with Pulse Audio enabled. What sip clients are people using? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: upgrading one version of ubuntu to another
Hi, You can do sudo update-manager -d from the terminal, but I have never had good results from doing it this way. Thee's another command you can use from the big terminal but I don't exactly remember the syntax. It was something like sudo do-release-upgrade. I thik that may be the way to go for a speech enabled upgrade with speakup. HTH Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 04:22 +, michael weaver wrote: someone at my linux usergroup or lug once said to me that i don't need to do fresh installs when upgrading from one version of ubuntu to another. if this is so is the most accessiable way for someone totally blind to do it who doesn't have a sighted person around whose family are not linux users is to edit all the entries that beginn with deb in the etcstapsstsourcestddlist and do an apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade? i notice the update-manager is fairly accessible when doing a simple update to get the latest fixes and security etc but once when i tried to use it to do an upgrade someone said my dowload had not started after i did an alt f2 update-manager comd command, hit enter on the upgrade button and typed my admin password. my guess is that there is a dialogue box which comes up with some other button that possibly needs to be tabbed to which needs hitting before the actual upgrade starts and that if you don't locate this button and enter on it, the operating system will not upgrade properly if at all. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Donations to Ubuntu accessibility
Hi, Is there a site, or some way to donate to Ubuntu in such a way that the donated funds will go towards accessibility specifically? I would like to be able to donate to projects like Orca and speech-dispatcher, but as far as I know, right now that would meen donating to Oracle. This, I will never do, not even if hell does freeze over. So, the next best thing would be to donate to the distro specifically, but I would like to know that my donations are supporting the programs that make the distro accessible to me. thanks Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Donations to Ubuntu accessibility
Hi, I thought time and code donations would be good enough too, but look what happened to Sun. Worse yet, look what it got replaced with and the havoc it has caused. I can't donate much to the cause, maybe $5 or $10 a month, but something has to be done. We can't take the chance that something this terrible could happen in other companies too. In fact, I would start a whole donation to open source software awareness project, if only there were a place to make sure that at least some of it got funneled in to accessibility specifically. I think there should be two poptions, maybe set up through paypal. The first would be a one-time donation, you could enter an amount and make a payment. the second would be a recurring payment. I am not sure if the paypal code allows for picking your own amount in that situation, so there may be a need to make 4 or 5 buttons, $5, $10, $25, or $50 per month. Maybe have a list box on the form that allows you to specify what the money should be used for, accessibility, language translation, general use, etc. I think that this would make it easier for Canonical to add more people to the accessibility team, or indeed, let the one person they have work on it full time. I know that $5 a month isn't much when it's just 1 person, but if 100 did it, well $500 a month can make a bit of a difference. Accessible distros are great in some ways, they solve a lot of problems for people, especially newbies who want and expect things to just work. The problem I have with them, is that when Linux gains enough popularity that it is installed on public computers, like at the library say, it's probably not going to be the accessible distro. So, I prefer to try making the main stream distros as accessible out of the box as they can be. This is of course thinking in the long term. But, it will get here eventually. So, that, combined with a growing dislike of reformatting is why I haven't switched to one of the Vinux distros. Well, it is mostly the dislike of reformatting, I have a lot of stuff on this computer lol. I will keep what code I can do coming and contribute in any other way that I can. But, maybe the powers that be will read this and set up a good way to donate to the cause financially too. Thanks Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 11:16 -0500, Bill Cox wrote: Hi, Storm. Personally, I think you should save your money for beer, and continue contributing as you have - with your time. What we really need is at least another full time person at Canonical working full-time on accessibility, and of course, I vote for Willie. Short of that, perhaps we can do a better job organizing the community to focus on work that needs to get done. My own feeling is that we should work in an accessibility sand-box, which feeds into Ubuntu and the other distros. I think we can do that with Vinux based on Ubuntu. Bill On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Storm Dragon stormdragon2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there a site, or some way to donate to Ubuntu in such a way that the donated funds will go towards accessibility specifically? I would like to be able to donate to projects like Orca and speech-dispatcher, but as far as I know, right now that would meen donating to Oracle. This, I will never do, not even if hell does freeze over. So, the next best thing would be to donate to the distro specifically, but I would like to know that my donations are supporting the programs that make the distro accessible to me. thanks Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Donations to Ubuntu accessibility
Hi, I would assume that it would go straight to Ubuntu. The one-time payment option would allow you to pick your amount each time it was used. I guess someone in Canonical's accounting department would have to set it up because they would have to keep track of the funds. Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 16:30 -0500, Ignasi Cambra wrote: I think the idea is good. I would be willing to donate although I would like to be able to decide the amount each time. Who should set this up, and where would the money go exactly? Straight to Canonical, somewhere else? On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Storm Dragon wrote: That's not a bad idea, I have just recently gotten a somewhat shakey understanding of partitioning and how to do it. Maybe if ther need arrises, I will do it that way next time. Unless, is there a way to do it after everything's already installed? thanks Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 09:52 -0700, Jacob Schmude wrote: Hi Storm Well said, and I agree. I'd be willing to donate some though I'm not rich, in addition to working on the code when I can. Btw, where reformatting is concerned, I just make /home its own partition. Then I can reformat all I want without touching my data. :D On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 11:42 -0500, Storm Dragon wrote: Hi, I thought time and code donations would be good enough too, but look what happened to Sun. Worse yet, look what it got replaced with and the havoc it has caused. I can't donate much to the cause, maybe $5 or $10 a month, but something has to be done. We can't take the chance that something this terrible could happen in other companies too. In fact, I would start a whole donation to open source software awareness project, if only there were a place to make sure that at least some of it got funneled in to accessibility specifically. I think there should be two poptions, maybe set up through paypal. The first would be a one-time donation, you could enter an amount and make a payment. the second would be a recurring payment. I am not sure if the paypal code allows for picking your own amount in that situation, so there may be a need to make 4 or 5 buttons, $5, $10, $25, or $50 per month. Maybe have a list box on the form that allows you to specify what the money should be used for, accessibility, language translation, general use, etc. I think that this would make it easier for Canonical to add more people to the accessibility team, or indeed, let the one person they have work on it full time. I know that $5 a month isn't much when it's just 1 person, but if 100 did it, well $500 a month can make a bit of a difference. Accessible distros are great in some ways, they solve a lot of problems for people, especially newbies who want and expect things to just work. The problem I have with them, is that when Linux gains enough popularity that it is installed on public computers, like at the library say, it's probably not going to be the accessible distro. So, I prefer to try making the main stream distros as accessible out of the box as they can be. This is of course thinking in the long term. But, it will get here eventually. So, that, combined with a growing dislike of reformatting is why I haven't switched to one of the Vinux distros. Well, it is mostly the dislike of reformatting, I have a lot of stuff on this computer lol. I will keep what code I can do coming and contribute in any other way that I can. But, maybe the powers that be will read this and set up a good way to donate to the cause financially too. Thanks Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 11:16 -0500, Bill Cox wrote: Hi, Storm. Personally, I think you should save your money for beer, and continue contributing as you have - with your time. What we really need is at least another full time person at Canonical working full-time on accessibility, and of course, I vote for Willie. Short of that, perhaps we can do a better job organizing the community to focus on work that needs to get done. My own feeling is that we should work
Re: Draft Willie for Ubuntu Accessibility
Hi, Yes, that would be quite awesome! Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 19:05 -0500, Bill Cox wrote: I don't need to introduce Willie on this forum. If you don't know him and some of his work, you're not involved. Willie is looking for a new job as the result of the Oracle/Sun merger. I've said before that Ubuntu could own the accessibility space with one more full time guy. If that guy is Willie, he'll prove me right. I don't know the situation at Canonical, but getting Willie roped in would be super-huge. RedHat would do great with Willie as well, but I'd rather see his skills go to Ubuntu first, and let Fedora get his work downstream from Ubuntu. Anyone interested in forming a Draft Willie campaign? Bill -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: rhythm box
Hi, You can fix this by checking the crossfade option in preferences under the playback tab. Set the seconds for 3 or more. HTH Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 08:15 +0100, Francisco Javier Dorado Martínez wrote: Hi all Sure, I can confirm that in Karmic too. If you kill orca Rhythmbox continues playing. Is like the audio get muted but system is locked until one of both Orca or Rhythmbox is killed. I thought it was missconfiguration Regards Javier El dom, 17-01-2010 a las 20:14 -0600, mike escribió:. Hi, I experimented a little more, and my problem seems to be something to do with Orca running when rhythm box changes songs. The computer locks up if Orca is running. But if Orca is turned off it works fine. Has anyone else had this problem? I am using lucid. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
speech-dispatcher and Festival
Hi, Has anyone gotten speech-dispatcher to be able to use festival? If so, how? Thanks Storm Follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ For general Linux discussion: http://www.freelists.org/list/accessiblelinux What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
espeakup in karmic
Hi, I installed espeakup from the repos. Before, when I just compiled it, I got it to autostart by adding a line to /etc/init.d/rc.local. After installing from the repos though, it starts automatically with out the modification to rc.local. The thing is, when I start it I would like it to use the US English voice. It was easy to do in rc.local, just add --default-voice en-us to the command. Is there a way to change it with this new way of starting it? Thanks Storm -- Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 Koala positive feetback related toaccessibility and speech responsiveness
Hi, I was having the same problems with pulseaudio. The pauses every few wordes were quite interesting. Removing pulse solved sound problems for more than just orca though. I am still using speech-dispatcher with no problems. Did you remember to run spd-conf and set it to use alsa instead of pulse? I am using 64 bit Karmik. -- Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:57 -0500, Bill Cox wrote: I'm very glad to hear about positive experiences so far with Karmic. I installed the x64 version yesterday on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 9400). Orca did work out-of-the-box, which is nice. If blind users absolutely must do a few things on linux, Karmic can do the job. However, I found there to be a delay due to pulseaudio of about 1/2 second, making key and word echo useless. The delay is so bad, I don't see how I could use Karmic with Orca full-time. I installed voxin as well (far nicer than espeak, IMO), and had two additional problems, besides the delay. When using speech-dispatcher, speech would pause every few seconds for about half a second, which is seriously annoying. When using Gnome Speech Services, instead of pausing, it simply stops speaking, so it is very tedious to listen to an entire document. I suspect both problems are related to the delay in pulseaudio. With the virtual machine install, I was able to get Orca working well by uninstalling pulseaudio, as described here: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/UbuntuKarmic However, when installed on my laptop, removing pulseaudio caused speech-dispatcher to hang, with 100% CPU utilization. So, for now, I have no suitable Karmic-based Orca solution. Are other people seeing the delay problem? Is it only with the x64 version? Are you using Karmic/Orca as your main machine, or just playing around a bit? Thanks, Bill -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 Koala positive feetback related toaccessibility and speech responsiveness
Hi, Lol I didn't realize they were respawning. So that's why there is no volume control. I have just been using alsamixer. If you prefer a gui and can see well enough to use it, alsamixergui should do the trick. sudo apt-get install alsamixergui I added a custom application launcher with alsamixergui to the top panel in case anyone sighted using my computer wanted to change the volume. So far it's been a hit. Storm -- Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 10:21 -0500, Bill Cox wrote: Hi, Storm. Once again, you totally rock! I did in fact forget to change pulse to alsa in speechd.conf (D'oh!). I'll edit the Orca/Karmic wiki page and add this step. Now key echo is working well, and I'm having currently no problems in Karmic with Orca using voxin with speech-dispatcher/alsa. I'm basically a happy camper at the moment. I'm still having trouble getting the volume control to show up in the gnome panel. I delete .pulse and .pulse-cookie, but some process keeps recreating them! Do you also know the solution to this? Thanks, Bill. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Storm Dragon stormdragon2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was having the same problems with pulseaudio. The pauses every few wordes were quite interesting. Removing pulse solved sound problems for more than just orca though. I am still using speech-dispatcher with no problems. Did you remember to run spd-conf and set it to use alsa instead of pulse? I am using 64 bit Karmik. -- Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:57 -0500, Bill Cox wrote: I'm very glad to hear about positive experiences so far with Karmic. I installed the x64 version yesterday on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 9400). Orca did work out-of-the-box, which is nice. If blind users absolutely must do a few things on linux, Karmic can do the job. However, I found there to be a delay due to pulseaudio of about 1/2 second, making key and word echo useless. The delay is so bad, I don't see how I could use Karmic with Orca full-time. I installed voxin as well (far nicer than espeak, IMO), and had two additional problems, besides the delay. When using speech-dispatcher, speech would pause every few seconds for about half a second, which is seriously annoying. When using Gnome Speech Services, instead of pausing, it simply stops speaking, so it is very tedious to listen to an entire document. I suspect both problems are related to the delay in pulseaudio. With the virtual machine install, I was able to get Orca working well by uninstalling pulseaudio, as described here: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/UbuntuKarmic However, when installed on my laptop, removing pulseaudio caused speech-dispatcher to hang, with 100% CPU utilization. So, for now, I have no suitable Karmic-based Orca solution. Are other people seeing the delay problem? Is it only with the x64 version? Are you using Karmic/Orca as your main machine, or just playing around a bit? Thanks, Bill -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Installing latest at-spi
This worked. Everything is now latest version. I have to leave at the moment, so I don't have time to update the wiki. I'll do it when I get back if no one else gets around to it in the mean time. thanks for the help Storm Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 20:57 +0200, Tony Bernedal wrote: Hi. I solved it by installing libgconf2-dev I hope I remember the name of the library correct. After installing this package I was abel to install all things correct both on 32bit and 64bit. 2009/7/4, Bill Cox waywardg...@gmail.com: I have similar warnings when building on Ubuntu 9.04 x64. However, I don't get the last line: Makefile.am:13: GCONF_SCHEMAS_INSTALL does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL I Googled GCONF_SCHEMAS_INSTALL, and found this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/tracker-list/2006-October/msg00120.html My guess is the x32 source is a bit more recent than the x64, so you're seeing this bug while I don't. It sounds like you should try commenting out the lines in Makefile.am, starting at 13. It should look like: if GCONF_SCHEMAS_INSTALL #install-data-local: #if test -z $(DESTDIR) ; then \ #for p in $(schemas_DATA) ; do \ #GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=$(GCONF_SCHEMA_CONFIG_SOURCE) $(GCONFTOOL) --makefile-install-rule $(top_builddir)/data/$$p ; \ #done \ #fi #else install-data-local: #endif Hopefully that will work. Bill On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Storm Dragonstormdragon2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have tried to install the latest versions of atk and at-spi. Atk installed correctly, but I get errors when trying to install at-spi. Here's what I did, from the instructions on the Orca wiki: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/DownloadInstall ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib/at-spi Returns several errors/warnings. Here's the output from that command. This is on Ubuntu Jaunty 64 bit: checking for autoconf = 2.53... testing autoconf2.50... not found. testing autoconf... found 2.63 checking for automake = 1.9... testing automake-1.10... found 1.10.2 checking for libtool = 1.5... testing libtoolize... found 2.2.6 checking for glib-gettext = 2.2.0... testing glib-gettextize... found 2.20.1 checking for intltool = 0.30... testing intltoolize... found 0.40.6 checking for pkg-config = 0.14.0... testing pkg-config... found 0.22 checking for gtk-doc = 1.0... testing gtkdocize... found 1.11 Checking for required M4 macros... Checking for forbidden M4 macros... Processing ./configure.in Running libtoolize... libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'. libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh' libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am. Running glib-gettextize... Ignore non-fatal messages. Copying file mkinstalldirs Copying file po/Makefile.in.in Please add the files codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4 progtest.m4 from the /aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/. Running intltoolize... Running gtkdocize... Running aclocal-1.10... configure.in:50: warning: macro `AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2' not found in librar Running autoconf... Running autoheader... autoheader: WARNING: Using auxiliary files such as `acconfig.h', `confi autoheader: WARNING: and `config.h.top', to define templates for `confi autoheader: WARNING: is deprecated and discouraged. autoheader: autoheader: WARNING: Using the third argument of `AC_DEFINE' and autoheader: WARNING: `AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED' allows one to define a templa autoheader: WARNING: `acconfig.h': autoheader: autoheader: WARNING: AC_DEFINE([NEED_FUNC_MAIN], 1, autoheader: [Define if a function `main' is needed.]) autoheader: autoheader: WARNING: More sophisticated templates can also be produced, autoheader: WARNING: documentation. Running automake-1.10... atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: libbonobo-2: non-POSIX variable name atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: liboaf-2: non-POSIX variable name atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: libORBit-2: non-POSIX variable name atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: libat-spi: non-POSIX variable name docs/reference/idl/Makefile.am:18: D: non-POSIX variable name docs/reference/idl/Makefile.am:26: D: non-POSIX variable name Makefile.am:13: GCONF_SCHEMAS_INSTALL does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https
Installing latest at-spi
Hi, I have tried to install the latest versions of atk and at-spi. Atk installed correctly, but I get errors when trying to install at-spi. Here's what I did, from the instructions on the Orca wiki: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/DownloadInstall ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib/at-spi Returns several errors/warnings. Here's the output from that command. This is on Ubuntu Jaunty 64 bit: checking for autoconf = 2.53... testing autoconf2.50... not found. testing autoconf... found 2.63 checking for automake = 1.9... testing automake-1.10... found 1.10.2 checking for libtool = 1.5... testing libtoolize... found 2.2.6 checking for glib-gettext = 2.2.0... testing glib-gettextize... found 2.20.1 checking for intltool = 0.30... testing intltoolize... found 0.40.6 checking for pkg-config = 0.14.0... testing pkg-config... found 0.22 checking for gtk-doc = 1.0... testing gtkdocize... found 1.11 Checking for required M4 macros... Checking for forbidden M4 macros... Processing ./configure.in Running libtoolize... libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'. libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh' libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am. Running glib-gettextize... Ignore non-fatal messages. Copying file mkinstalldirs Copying file po/Makefile.in.in Please add the files codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4 progtest.m4 from the /aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/. Running intltoolize... Running gtkdocize... Running aclocal-1.10... configure.in:50: warning: macro `AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2' not found in librar Running autoconf... Running autoheader... autoheader: WARNING: Using auxiliary files such as `acconfig.h', `confi autoheader: WARNING: and `config.h.top', to define templates for `confi autoheader: WARNING: is deprecated and discouraged. autoheader: autoheader: WARNING: Using the third argument of `AC_DEFINE' and autoheader: WARNING: `AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED' allows one to define a templa autoheader: WARNING: `acconfig.h': autoheader: autoheader: WARNING: AC_DEFINE([NEED_FUNC_MAIN], 1, autoheader: [Define if a function `main' is needed.]) autoheader: autoheader: WARNING: More sophisticated templates can also be produced, autoheader: WARNING: documentation. Running automake-1.10... atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: libbonobo-2: non-POSIX variable name atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: liboaf-2: non-POSIX variable name atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: libORBit-2: non-POSIX variable name atk-bridge/Makefile.am:23: libat-spi: non-POSIX variable name docs/reference/idl/Makefile.am:18: D: non-POSIX variable name docs/reference/idl/Makefile.am:26: D: non-POSIX variable name Makefile.am:13: GCONF_SCHEMAS_INSTALL does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Help with an Espeakup Error
Hi, Speakup and Espeakup were working perfectly until just recently. Now, when I try to start Espeakup, I get this message: Unable to open the softsynth device: No such file or directory Does anyone know what's wrong and how to fix it? Using Ubuntu 9.04. thanks Storm Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Frequent Crashes in Ubuntu 9.04
Hi, I am having this problem with 9.04. It starts up, Orca starts and gives its little shpill about the desktop, but now for some reason, half the time it says frame greyed. Then, a few minutes later, it crashes, the whole computer crashes to the point where the only way to get it working again is to hold down the power button and do a hard reboot. Is anyone else having this problem? Is there anyone else experiencing this issue? If so, is there a way around it? thanks Storm Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Here's a chance to raise awareness for Linux accessibility
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espeakup in Jaunty
Hi, I have installed speakup, and everything went as expected until I tried to compile espeakup. I kept getting errors about functions being implicitly defined. Does anyone know what changed to cause this to happen, and beter yet, how to fix it? Also, in Orca, the espeak setting for the fast speech no longer works. In Intrepid, it was possible to install the latest espeak package and then add fast_test 2 40 40 to get speech rates a lot faster. I think this may be a gnome-speech bug because a friend of mine who uses Arch Linux has the same problem. I sent a message to the Orca list about it, but was told it isn't an Orca bug, and espeak with the command line will speak as fast as expected. I plan on using any info I get to update my blog, so if you have the solution, please send me the info you would like posted as credits. Thanks Storm Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: espeakup in Jaunty
Hi, Is there a way to make it compile even though it has errors? It won't install with just make and sudo make install. It is the one in the contrib folder in the speakup package. Thanks Storm Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 14:04 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Storm Dragon, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 08:00:25 -0400, a écrit : I have installed speakup, and everything went as expected until I tried to compile espeakup. I kept getting errors about functions being implicitly defined. Does anyone know what changed to cause this to happen, and beter yet, how to fix it? How do you get espeakup? There used to be such warnings, but they were only warnings. Samuel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Something Strange
As a result of doing several experiments, I have had to reinstall Ubuntu several times. Most of the experiments were in the hope of getting my headphone jacks and microphone working. Although I haven't managed to do that, I have discovered somthing. I have had a lot of problems with Orca suddenly going silent. No big deal, I just relaunch it and it works fine for a while longer before going silent again. I had no clue what could be causing it, it seemed to be a resurface of the problem in 8.04, although a little less persistant. This time, as in this morning with my latest complete reformat and install, Orca hasn't crashed at all. I was using the version of Orca that comes on 8.10, but then I upgraded to the latest trunk version. So far neither version has stopped speaking once. I have been using it for several hours now. The only difference this time is I haven't installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package. I know the stuff in that package is totally unrelated to Orca, but this is twice now I have noticed the difference. I was sort of reluctant to write about it because it seems a little far fetched, but I have actively been trying to cause the problem with Orca suddenlty stopping, it seems to happen a lot in terminal, and it hasn't failed once. So, is there something in the restricted package that could be conflicting with Orca? Thanks Storm Check out the Storm Dragon blog: http://www.stormdragon.us/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
New orca-customizations.py file
Hi,
Here's the latest script. This one includes a script for battery
status. Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't have a battery at the moment
so I can't test this as thoroughly as I would like. It can detect thaqt
a battery is not present., so it should work the rest of the way too.
Here are the keybindings for the new script:
orca-a battery status
orca-d date (can be pasted from the clipboard)
orca-t time (can be pasted from the clipboard)
orca-w current temperature and conditions
IF the battery status key doesn't work as expected, please let me know.
Thanks
Storm
This script adds battery status, date, time, and weather functionality to Orca
Time or date can be pasted from the clipboard
Adapted by Storm Dragon from the script posted at:
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-6a8c1c2511ba01d7397f68f754eec0d923d166f1
feel free to modify and/or redistribute this script as you see fit.
import orca.input_event # watches for input that Orca recognizes
import orca.keybindings # Handles binding keystrokes for Orca to use.
import orca.orca # Imports the main screen reader
import orca.speech # Handles Orca's speaking abilities
import orca.braille # Displays information in Braille format
import re
#change the next line to your zip code:
zipCode = 0
#places text in the clipboard
def setClipboardText(text):
import gtk # import the gtk library
cb = gtk.Clipboard()
cb.set_text(text)
cb.store()
#getWeather function gets weather from Yahoo
def getWeather(zip_code):
if zip_code != 0:
import urllib
from xml.dom import minidom
WEATHER_URL = 'http://xml.weather.yahoo.com/forecastrss?p=%s'
WEATHER_NS = 'http://xml.weather.yahoo.com/ns/rss/1.0'
url = WEATHER_URL % zip_code
dom = minidom.parse(urllib.urlopen(url))
ycondition = dom.getElementsByTagNameNS(WEATHER_NS, 'condition')[0]
weatherReport = ycondition.getAttribute('temp') + ' | ' + ycondition.getAttribute('text')
else:
weatherReport = No zip code set: Please edit .orca/orca-customizations.py
return weatherReport
myKeyBindings = orca.keybindings.KeyBindings()
#define the battery status function
def sayBattery(script, inputEvent=None):
import commands
message = commands.getoutput(acpi)
if len(message) == 0:
message = Battery not found.
orca.speech.speak(message)
orca.braille.displayMessage(message)
return True
#end battery status function
#Define the sayTime function
def sayTime(script, inputEvent=None):
import time # imports the Python time library
message = time.strftime(%I:%M%p, time.localtime())
orca.speech.speak(message)
orca.braille.displayMessage(message)
setClipboardText(message)
return True
#end sayTime function
#Define the sayDate function
def sayDate(script, inputEvent=None):
import time # imports the Python time library
message = time.strftime(%A, %B %d, %Y, time.localtime())
orca.speech.speak(message)
orca.braille.displayMessage(message)
setClipboardText(message)
return True
#end sayDate function
#Define the sayWeather function
def sayWeather(script, inputEvent=None):
message = getWeather(zipCode)
orca.speech.speak(message)
orca.braille.displayMessage(message)
return True
#end sayWeather function
#Set up sayBattery keys
sayBatteryHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler(
sayBattery,
Speaks and Brailles battery status.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode
myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding(
a,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
sayBatteryHandler)) # Sets Orca-a as the battery status key
#Set up sayTime keys
sayTimeHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler(
sayTime,
Presents the time.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode
myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding(
t,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
sayTimeHandler)) # Sets Orca-t as the say time key
#add sayDate info
sayDateHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler(
sayDate,
Presents the date.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode
myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding(
d,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
sayDateHandler)) # Sets Orca-d as the say date key
#add sayWeather info
sayWeatherHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler(
sayWeather,
Get current temperature and conditions.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode
myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding(
w,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
sayWeatherHandler)) # Sets Orca-d as the say date key
orca.settings.keyBindingsMap[default] = myKeyBindings
#end time, date, and weather code
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New orca-customizations.py File
Hi,
Sorry about the previous lack of instructions for getting everything set
up. I am going to try and attach the file this time. I wasn't sure
that the list's mail handler would allow attachments. The file goes in
your ~/.orca directory. Here are the key presses in the newest script.
orca-d speak and/or Braille the date
orca-t speak and/or Braille the time
orca-w speak and/or Braille the current temperature and conditions.
The time and date are also placed into the clipboard so they can be
pasted with a simple press of ctrl-v
A note about the weather. I wanted to get the weather from the top
panel. In Ubuntu, it is shown with the clock. I couldn't find the
information I needed to access this though, so I wrote a script to get
the info from Yahoo's weather services. I got to thinking that this may
be the best way to do things after all, because I am not sure that all
distros have the weather posted with the clock, and even if they do,
they may not all use the same program to do it. The only drawback is,
if you press the orca-w keys to get the weather and are not connected to
the internet there is a bit of significant lag while the script attempts
to get the info. IF you do have internet connectivity though, it's
nearly instantly displayed. Ok, here's the script, let me know if you
need any help with it, if there's something that can be done to improve
it, etc.
Storm
attachment: 1.gifThis script adds time and date functionality to Orca
New in this script, time or date can be pasted from the clipboard
Adapted by Storm Dragon from the script posted at:
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-6a8c1c2511ba01d7397f68f754eec0d923d166f1
feel free to modify and/or redistribute this script as you see fit.
import orca.input_event # watches for input that Orca recognizes
import orca.keybindings # Handles binding keystrokes for Orca to use.
import orca.orca # Imports the main screen reader
import orca.speech # Handles Orca's speaking abilities
import orca.braille # Displays information in Braille format
import re # Not sure
#change the next line to your zip code:
zipCode = 28624
#places text in the clipboard
def setClipboardText(text):
import gtk # import the gtk library
cb = gtk.Clipboard()
cb.set_text(text)
cb.store()
#getWeather function gets weather from Yahoo
def getWeather(zip_code):
if zip_code != 0:
import urllib
from xml.dom import minidom
WEATHER_URL = 'http://xml.weather.yahoo.com/forecastrss?p=%s'
WEATHER_NS = 'http://xml.weather.yahoo.com/ns/rss/1.0'
url = WEATHER_URL % zip_code
dom = minidom.parse(urllib.urlopen(url))
ycondition = dom.getElementsByTagNameNS(WEATHER_NS, 'condition')[0]
weatherReport = ycondition.getAttribute('temp') + ' | ' + ycondition.getAttribute('text')
else:
weatherReport = No zip code set: Please edit .orca/orca-customizations.py
return weatherReport
myKeyBindings = orca.keybindings.KeyBindings()
#Define the sayTime function
def sayTime(script, inputEvent=None):
import time # imports the Python time library
message = time.strftime(%I:%M%p, time.localtime())
orca.speech.speak(message)
orca.braille.displayMessage(message)
setClipboardText(message)
return True
#end sayTime function
#Define the sayDate function
def sayDate(script, inputEvent=None):
import time # imports the Python time library
message = time.strftime(%A, %B %d, %Y, time.localtime())
orca.speech.speak(message)
orca.braille.displayMessage(message)
setClipboardText(message)
return True
#end sayDate function
#Define the sayWeather function
def sayWeather(script, inputEvent=None):
message = getWeather(zipCode)
orca.speech.speak(message)
orca.braille.displayMessage(message)
return True
#end sayWeather function
#Set up sayTime keys
sayTimeHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler(
sayTime,
Presents the time.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode
myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding(
t,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
sayTimeHandler)) # Sets Orca-t as the say time key
#add sayDate info
sayDateHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler(
sayDate,
Presents the date.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode
myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding(
d,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
sayDateHandler)) # Sets Orca-d as the say date key
#add sayWeather info
sayWeatherHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler(
sayWeather,
Get current temperature and conditions.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode
myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding(
w,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA,
sayWeatherHandler)) # Sets Orca-d as the say date key
orca.settings.keyBindingsMap[default] = myKeyBindings
#end time, date, and weather code
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A Couple of Things in Intrepid
Hi, I have noticed a couple of odd things in Intrepid. If I have to press ctrl-alt-backspace to close my session: Orca starts speaking at the login screen. It says it is setting up and wants me to select a speech server, eSpeak and Festival are the two choices it gives me. I enter my login info as usual and it does log in then Orca kicks in as normal. The next thing is some times when reviewing mail in evolution with flat review, after I close the message, Orca freezes. Pressing alt-f2 and typing orca doesn't bring it back. The only way I have found is to ctrl-alt-backspace. Is anyone else noticing these things? I noticed that my /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release file didn't update correctly when I upgraded. So, I am wondering if something else may not have upgraded quite right. Thanks Storm -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
New orca-customizations.py File
Hi, The Orca scripting tutorial is coming along quite nicely. Well, maybe slowly but surely is more like it. Anyway, I have an orca-customizations.py file that, hopefully, someone will find useful. The file adds the following functionality to Orca. Orca-t Speaks and/or Brailles the current time. It also places the current time in the clipboard so it can be pasted if desired. Orca-d Speaks and/or Brailles the current date. The date is also placed into the clipboard so that it can be pasted if desired. Here's examples of the paste functions. I have just pressed insert-t when I press ctrl-v to paste I get 06:54PM Now, for the date, I press ins-d and when I press ctrl-v to paste, it will paste Monday, October 06, 2008 I need to go back and add in some better documentation for the code, but as it stands, everything works (at least on my system). Please send me some feedback, suggestions for improvement, if it's maybe the koolest thing ever!, etc. There will be another hopefully more improved customizations.py in the near future. Also, if you happen to have scripts you would like included in the tutorial please send them my way. And now! drum roll please! Here's the orca-customizations.py code. Simply copy the text below and paste it into .orca/orca-customizations.py If this file exists already, you may want to replace it because I am not sure if there will be conflicts with your current customizations. #start code below this line: This script adds time and date functionality to Orca New in this script, time or date can be pasted from the clipboard Adapted by Storm Dragon from the script posted at: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-6a8c1c2511ba01d7397f68f754eec0d923d166f1 feel free to modify and/or redistribute this script as you see fit. #import gets code that has already been written. #think of it as using wheels instead of trying to reinvent them. import orca.input_event # watches for input that Orca recognizes import orca.keybindings # Handles binding keystrokes for Orca to use. import orca.orca # Imports the main screen reader import orca.speech # Handles Orca's speaking abilities import orca.braille # Displays information in Braille format import re # Not sure import gtk # import the gtk library #places text in the clipboard def setClipboardText(text): cb = gtk.Clipboard() cb.set_text(text) cb.store() myKeyBindings = orca.keybindings.KeyBindings() #Define the sayTime function def sayTime(script, inputEvent=None): import time # imports the Python time library message = time.strftime(%I:%M%p, time.localtime()) orca.speech.speak(message) orca.braille.displayMessage(message) setClipboardText(message) return True #end sayTime function #Define the sayDate function def sayDate(script, inputEvent=None): import time # imports the Python time library message = time.strftime(%A, %B %d, %Y, time.localtime()) orca.speech.speak(message) orca.braille.displayMessage(message) setClipboardText(message) return True #end sayDate function #Set up sayTime keys sayTimeHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler( sayTime, Presents the time.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding( t, 1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA, 1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA, sayTimeHandler)) # Sets Orca-t as the say time key #add sayDate info sayDateHandler = orca.input_event.InputEventHandler( sayDate, Presents the date.) # Shows the function of the key press in learn mode myKeyBindings.add(orca.keybindings.KeyBinding( d, 1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA, 1 orca.settings.MODIFIER_ORCA, sayDateHandler)) # Sets Orca-d as the say date key orca.settings.keyBindingsMap[default] = myKeyBindings #end time and date code -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Orca Script Writing Tutorial
Hi, I have been attempting to learn Python. So far so good, I think anyway. Everything I have created works so far after a little tinkering anyway. I have found that the actual Orca code is a bit much to try and tackle for a beginner. Just finding the write files poses a bit of a challenge. So, I got to thinking that creating scripts may be easier. After all, you just have to write a simple script and drop it in to the script folder right??? The thing is, I haven't found much info about writing scripts. I found a couple of examples for adding time and date, however, the script for reading weather doesn't work. So, now for my question. Is there any good documentation for script writing for beginners that explains everything down to why certain files are included? If not, I would like to write such a tutorial. I figure the best way to learn is to teach, and a tutorial would provide that opportunity. So, where would be the best place to get script creation information? And, should the tutorial be posted on the live.gnome.org/Orca website. Or, is there already such a tutorial somewhere? Thanks Storm -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Can orca read the weather in the top panel?
It can. You have to go into the time preferences and set your location. Once that is done, it will read the current temperature. It seems to read it every time I press alt-F1 to bring up the applications menu right before saying applications menu. You can also use ctrl-alt-tab to get to the top pannel and tab around until you find it. It's part of the clock, so you'll get the time too. I wonder if that info could be captured from the pannel in a script as well? Does anyone know how to go about querying the pannel with Python code? Storm On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 12:29 -0500, mike wrote: Hi, I see in the settings on the top panel something about displaying the weather. Is this accessible with Orca? If so, how do you use this feature? Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Upgrade to Intrepid Alpha6
Hi, I upgraded to Intrepid last night. The strange thing is, I ended up having to manually upgrade ubuntu-desktop and gnome-orca after everything was finished. I am not sure why they didn't upgrade along with everything else. So far, everything is working great except Orca seems to skip somethings when arrowing through menus at first, I thought I was just hitting the button twice, but it happens more often than would account for something like that. Also, was wondering if the log in music has changed for Ubuntu? It almost seems like I am getting the standard Gnome music but I am not sure. Storm -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Upgrading Espeak Version
Hi, I would like to upgrade eSpeak. I was wondering if there's anything I should know about before doing it...E.G Will it break speech in Orca? I did a search on Google and couldn't find anything about it but I thought I would ask just in case. Thanks Storm -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Speech-dispatcher won't start?
Hi, I installed speech-dispatcher and the python-speechd library. It doesn't show up in my Orca, and I get the error: client: speech-dispatcher failed to start: connection refused I have had this problem on 2 laptops both running Hardy. I have a desktop running Gutsy and it works just fine. I did have to restart in Gutsy before the speech worked though. well, actually, a logout and in would probably have worked just as well, but some Windows habbits are hard to break. *grin* Anyway, is there something else I need to do to get speech-dispatcher working? Thanks for the help Storm -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
