[Bug 711587] Re: powernap and Eucalyptus seem unable to reach an understanding

2011-03-31 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: eucalyptus (Ubuntu Natty)
Milestone: ubuntu-11.04-beta-1 = ubuntu-11.04-beta-2

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[Bug 745946] Re: cloud-final job did not run

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Moser
** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Summary changed:

- cloud-final job did not run
+ cloud-final job did not run in ec2-automated-tests

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[Bug 735072] Re: The hostname proposed by installer is too long for file sharing to work correctly.

2011-03-31 Thread Vish
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: New = Confirmed

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Re: [Bug 745599] Re: fails on automatic update

2011-03-31 Thread David Sowerby
Hi Serge

I would but apt-cache clean is reported as not valid, and I cannot see a
command that it would be ...


dave@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache
apt 0.7.25.3ubuntu9.3 for i386 compiled on Sep  9 2010 22:22:00
Usage: apt-cache [options] command
   apt-cache [options] add file1 [file2 ...]
   apt-cache [options] showpkg pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
   apt-cache [options] showsrc pkg1 [pkg2 ...]

apt-cache is a low-level tool used to manipulate APT's binary
cache files, and query information from them

Commands:
   add - Add a package file to the source cache
   gencaches - Build both the package and source cache
   showpkg - Show some general information for a single package
   showsrc - Show source records
   stats - Show some basic statistics
   dump - Show the entire file in a terse form
   dumpavail - Print an available file to stdout
   unmet - Show unmet dependencies
   search - Search the package list for a regex pattern
   show - Show a readable record for the package
   depends - Show raw dependency information for a package
   rdepends - Show reverse dependency information for a package
   pkgnames - List the names of all packages in the system
   dotty - Generate package graphs for GraphViz
   xvcg - Generate package graphs for xvcg
   policy - Show policy settings

Options:
  -h   This help text.
  -p=? The package cache.
  -s=? The source cache.
  -q   Disable progress indicator.
  -i   Show only important deps for the unmet command.
  -c=? Read this configuration file
  -o=? Set an arbitrary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp
See the apt-cache(8) and apt.conf(5) manual pages for more information.



On 31 March 2011 00:59, Serge Hallyn 745...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Thanks for reporting this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better.

 The error messages claim that the package file is corrupt.  Can you
 please try to clean the cache and re-try the upgrade?  Clean the cache
 with

 apt-cache clean

 and then re-try the update with

 apt-get dist-upgrade

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[Bug 744976] Re: euca-describe-snapshots lists all public snapshots

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Moser
** Also affects: euca2ools
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 322214] Re: php (via libedit using_history()) incorrectly opens stdin

2011-03-31 Thread Randy Fay
Note that neither Debian Lenny (php5-cli 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny10) nor
Debian Squeeze (php5-cli 5.3.3-7+squeeze1)  have this problem; Upcoming
11.04 Natty Narwhal still does have it, as you know.

Thanks for your work on this @Clint

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[Bug 741661] Re: Web UI does not work from default install (2.1.0~bzr-2009-0ubuntu1)l

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package cobbler - 2.1.0-0ubuntu1

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cobbler (2.1.0-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low

  * New upstream release.
  * Make it a bit more easier to configure cobbler_web (LP: #741661)
  * Drop java dependencies since cobbler4j is no longer shipped upstream.
 -- Chuck Short zul...@ubuntu.com   Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:54:56 -0400

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 742104] Re: OpenLDAP remote DoS: CVE-2011-1081

2011-03-31 Thread Jamie Strandboge
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-
announce/2011-March/001293.html

** Also affects: openldap (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: openldap (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: openldap (Ubuntu Natty)
   Importance: Undecided
 Assignee: Jamie Strandboge (jdstrand)
   Status: In Progress

** Also affects: openldap (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: openldap (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New = Fix Released

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Lucid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jamie Strandboge (jdstrand)

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Status: New = Fix Released

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Maverick)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jamie Strandboge (jdstrand)

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Status: New = Fix Released

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Hardy)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jamie Strandboge (jdstrand)

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: New = Fix Released

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Karmic)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jamie Strandboge (jdstrand)

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Natty)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu Natty)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-11.04-beta-2

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[Bug 746497] [NEW] libvirt installs firewall rules on package upgrades

2011-03-31 Thread Nafallo Bjälevik
Public bug reported:

libvirt recently had a security upgrade. Every time the package has an
upgrade it re-installs firewall rules with means all my VMs loose
Internet connectivity.

After upgrade:
nafallo@pony:~$ sudo iptables -vnL
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 3943M packets, 2378G bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination 

0 0 ACCEPT udp  --  bklabs *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   
udp dpt:53 
0 0 ACCEPT tcp  --  bklabs *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   
tcp dpt:53 
0 0 ACCEPT udp  --  bklabs *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   
udp dpt:67 
0 0 ACCEPT tcp  --  bklabs *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   
tcp dpt:67 

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 14G packets, 11T bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination 

0 0 ACCEPT all  --  *  bklabs  0.0.0.0/091.194.67.9 

0 0 ACCEPT all  --  bklabs *   91.194.67.9  0.0.0.0/0   

   38  3992 ACCEPT all  --  bklabs bklabs  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   

  367 34537 REJECT all  --  *  bklabs  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   
reject-with icmp-port-unreachable 
  271 17023 REJECT all  --  bklabs *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   
reject-with icmp-port-unreachable 

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 2317M packets, 1709G bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination

Fix: nafallo@pony:~$ sudo iptables -F

My setup is not the default, but I'm bored of having the package
upgrades break my setup.

** Affects: libvirt (Ubuntu)
 Importance: High
 Status: New

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[Bug 746497] Re: libvirt installs firewall rules on package upgrades

2011-03-31 Thread Nafallo Bjälevik
Not to confuse the matter, but here is my network template for the
network (the other parts of how things work is in my quagga config):

nafallo@pony:~$ cat /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/bklabs.xml 
network
  namebklabs/name
  bridge name=bklabs/
  forward mode=route/
  ip address=91.194.67.9 netmask=255.255.255.255/
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[Bug 745642] Re: FTBFS in ubuntu natty

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package bind9 - 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2

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bind9 (1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low

  * debian/rules, configure, contrib/dlz/config.dlz.in: use
DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH so we can find multiarch libraries and fix FTBFS.
(LP: #745642)
 -- Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@ubuntu.com   Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:19:37 
-0400

** Changed in: bind9 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 743484] Re: libupsclient.pc contains unresolved symbols

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package nut - 2.6.0-1ubuntu2

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nut (2.6.0-1ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low

  * fix_pc_file.patch: fix .pc source files by using LIBSSL_LIBS instead of
LIBSSL_LDFLAGS to avoid a FTBFS in packages that uses libupsclient.pc
(LP: #743484)
 -- Fabrice Coutadeur fabric...@ubuntu.com   Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:21:01 +0200

** Changed in: nut (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 556332] Re: leftover /etc/init.d/bind9.dpkg-dist on each upgrade

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package bind9 - 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu1

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bind9 (1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low

  * debian/bind9-default.md5sum:
- updated to reflect the default md5sum in maverick and natty, this
  avoids a bogus /etc/default/bind9.dpkg-dist file
  (LP: #556332)
 -- Michael Vogt michael.v...@ubuntu.com   Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:13:11 +0200

** Changed in: bind9 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 746497] Re: libvirt installs firewall rules on package upgrades

2011-03-31 Thread Nafallo Bjälevik
I should have mentioned this is Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, fully up-to-date. I
had the same problem on 8.04 LTS and 8.10, and haven't tried any other
versions.

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[Bug 746541] [NEW] Unable to upgrade tomcat6 (6.0.28-2ubuntu1.2)

2011-03-31 Thread Assen Sharlandjiev
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: tomcat6

I am unable to upgrade tomcat6 package.

#apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Setting up tomcat6 (6.0.28-2ubuntu1.2) ...
sed: -e expression #1, char 123: unknown option to `s'
dpkg: error processing tomcat6 (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 tomcat6
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

** Affects: tomcat6 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 556332] Re: leftover /etc/init.d/bind9.dpkg-dist on each upgrade

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/bind9

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[Bug 735072] Re: The hostname proposed by installer is too long for file sharing to work correctly.

2011-03-31 Thread Brian Murray
** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 585108] Re: euca_conf --register-nodes returns 0 but the node is not registered

2011-03-31 Thread rowez
Using Marverick Meerkat 10.10:

When trying to --register-cluster the same cluster: failed to register
new cluster, please log in to the admin interface and check cloud
status.

This is described in bug 627963!

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[Bug 735072] Re: The hostname proposed by installer is too long for file sharing to work correctly.

2011-03-31 Thread Chuck Short
I dont agree with option number 2 because it would break the netbios
protocol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBIOS#NetBIOS_name

Couldn't ubiquity do something reasonable to limit the hostname to
within 16 characters?

chuck

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[Bug 735072] Re: The hostname proposed by installer is too long for file sharing to work correctly.

2011-03-31 Thread Robbie Williamson
** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 732082] Re: Eucalyptus admin tools should not be shipped in eucalyptus-common package

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-virt/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/natty

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[Bug 731672] Re: missing depends -- python-psutil

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
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[Bug 726769] Re: package eucalyptus-common 2.0.1 bzr1255-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
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[Bug 697753] Re: bittorrent recommendation prevents bittorrent demotion

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
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[Bug 746586] [NEW] node deregister eucalyptus.local.conf

2011-03-31 Thread rowez
Public bug reported:

Using eucalyptus 2.0+bzr1241-0ubuntu4.1:

When --deregister-nodes it echo's SUCCESS: removed node '10.0.0.2' from 
'//etc/eucalyptus/eucalyptus.local.conf'
Which is misleading, because: no node found in eucalyptus.local.conf before 
--deregister-cluster and after --register-cluster.

** Affects: eucalyptus (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 627963] Re: [maverick] Inconsistent certificates prevent CC to start correctly (no cc.log)

2011-03-31 Thread rowez
Got the problem as described above on a Intel Xeon. Did the workaround
#9 and --register-cluster without stop/start eucalyptus!

Using eucalyptus (2.0+bzr1241-0ubuntu4.1) on Maverick Meerkat (10.10).

After the reboot, again --deregister-cluster and then --register-
cluster. No error's!

But it is reproducible when:

sudo euca_conf --list-nodes
echo's registered node
sudo euca_conf --deregister-nodes 10.0.0.2
sudo euca_conf --list-nodes
echo's registered node
sudo euca_conf --deregister-cluster cluster2011mrt
sudo euca_conf --register-cluster cluster2011mrt 10.0.0.2
sudo euca_conf --list-nodes
echo's nothing
sudo euca_conf --register-nodes 10.0.0.2
sudo euca_conf --list-nodes
echo's nothing
sudo euca_conf --deregister-cluster cluster2011mrt
sudo euca_conf --register-cluster cluster2011mrt 10.0.0.2
Needs time to do something! Then:
echo's ERROR: failed to register new cluster, please log in to the admin 
interface and check cloud status.
Few second's later, try again without workaround #9:
sudo euca_conf --register-cluster cluster2011mrt 10.0.0.2
echo's SUCCESS: new cluster 

It looks it is time related on a old Intel XEON!

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[Bug 735072] Re: The hostname proposed by installer is too long for file sharing to work correctly.

2011-03-31 Thread Evan Dandrea
Some commentary from IRC:

zul: ev: ping for the samba bug, couldnt ubiquity do something sensible and not 
allow more that 16 characters in a hostname?
[18:04] ScottK: Why is a 16 character hostname limit sensible?
[18:04] ev: zul: this is a limitation in netbios, not linux.
[18:05] ev: ScottK: indeed
[18:06] ev: I think this is best solved where the problem arises, in Samba.  I 
can talk to another machine with more than 16 characters in its hostname using 
every other network protocol I can think of.
[18:06] ev: equally, you can set the hostname outside of the installer, so even 
if we did this in ubiquity, the problem would remain.
[18:07] zul: ev: right its a problem with netbios...so something like print a 
warning or something
[18:08] ScottK: RFC 1123 says Host software MUST handle host names of up to 63 
characters and SHOULD handle host names of up to 255 characters.
[18:08] zul: ScottK:  right ill get on changing the netbios protocol
[18:09] ScottK: I understand the problem.
[18:09] • ScottK imagines a netbios equivalent for hostnames of 8.3 long/short 
filenames.

I am firmly against modifying ubiquity to work around limitations in the
NetBIOS protocol.  This belongs in Samba.

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[Bug 615442] Re: euca-describe-users fails with ImportError: No module named euca_admin.users

2011-03-31 Thread rowez
Using eucalyptus 2.0+bzr1241-0ubuntu4.1 Maverick Meerkat:

For the euca-describe-clusters, euca-describe-properties, euca-describe-
storage-controllers, euca-describe-users and euca-describe-walruses are
no modules present with a default installation!

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[Bug 732082] Re: Eucalyptus admin tools should not be shipped in eucalyptus-common package

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package eucalyptus - 2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3

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eucalyptus (2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3) natty; urgency=low

  * Separate admin tools from eucalyptus-common package(LP: #732082)
- debian/control:
  + Add eucalyptus-admin-tools binary package.
  + Add missing Depends on python-psutil. (LP: #731672)
  + eucalyptus-cloud: Depends on eucalyptus-admin-tools.
- debian/eucalyptus-admin-tools.install: Added.
- debian/eucalyptus-common.install: Drop installation of admin tools.
  * Switch to dh_python2 instead of python-central.
- debian/control. Bump Depends on cdbs to (= 0.4.90~); bump depends on
  python to (= 2.6.6-3).
  * Add powernap configs to leverage recent PowerNap changes (LP: #726769):
- debian/powernap/eucalyptus.conf: Add config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.install: Install config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.links: Symlink to /etc/powernap/config.d/.
  * debian/control: Change Recommends order of bittorrent to bittornado
first. Allows demontion of bittorrent. (LP: #697753)
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** Changed in: eucalyptus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 731672] Re: missing depends -- python-psutil

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package eucalyptus - 2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3

---
eucalyptus (2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3) natty; urgency=low

  * Separate admin tools from eucalyptus-common package(LP: #732082)
- debian/control:
  + Add eucalyptus-admin-tools binary package.
  + Add missing Depends on python-psutil. (LP: #731672)
  + eucalyptus-cloud: Depends on eucalyptus-admin-tools.
- debian/eucalyptus-admin-tools.install: Added.
- debian/eucalyptus-common.install: Drop installation of admin tools.
  * Switch to dh_python2 instead of python-central.
- debian/control. Bump Depends on cdbs to (= 0.4.90~); bump depends on
  python to (= 2.6.6-3).
  * Add powernap configs to leverage recent PowerNap changes (LP: #726769):
- debian/powernap/eucalyptus.conf: Add config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.install: Install config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.links: Symlink to /etc/powernap/config.d/.
  * debian/control: Change Recommends order of bittorrent to bittornado
first. Allows demontion of bittorrent. (LP: #697753)
 -- Andres Rodriguez andres...@ubuntu.com   Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:23:36 -0400

** Changed in: eucalyptus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 726769] Re: package eucalyptus-common 2.0.1 bzr1255-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package eucalyptus - 2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3

---
eucalyptus (2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3) natty; urgency=low

  * Separate admin tools from eucalyptus-common package(LP: #732082)
- debian/control:
  + Add eucalyptus-admin-tools binary package.
  + Add missing Depends on python-psutil. (LP: #731672)
  + eucalyptus-cloud: Depends on eucalyptus-admin-tools.
- debian/eucalyptus-admin-tools.install: Added.
- debian/eucalyptus-common.install: Drop installation of admin tools.
  * Switch to dh_python2 instead of python-central.
- debian/control. Bump Depends on cdbs to (= 0.4.90~); bump depends on
  python to (= 2.6.6-3).
  * Add powernap configs to leverage recent PowerNap changes (LP: #726769):
- debian/powernap/eucalyptus.conf: Add config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.install: Install config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.links: Symlink to /etc/powernap/config.d/.
  * debian/control: Change Recommends order of bittorrent to bittornado
first. Allows demontion of bittorrent. (LP: #697753)
 -- Andres Rodriguez andres...@ubuntu.com   Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:23:36 -0400

** Changed in: eucalyptus (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 697753] Re: bittorrent recommendation prevents bittorrent demotion

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package eucalyptus - 2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3

---
eucalyptus (2.0.1+bzr1256-0ubuntu3) natty; urgency=low

  * Separate admin tools from eucalyptus-common package(LP: #732082)
- debian/control:
  + Add eucalyptus-admin-tools binary package.
  + Add missing Depends on python-psutil. (LP: #731672)
  + eucalyptus-cloud: Depends on eucalyptus-admin-tools.
- debian/eucalyptus-admin-tools.install: Added.
- debian/eucalyptus-common.install: Drop installation of admin tools.
  * Switch to dh_python2 instead of python-central.
- debian/control. Bump Depends on cdbs to (= 0.4.90~); bump depends on
  python to (= 2.6.6-3).
  * Add powernap configs to leverage recent PowerNap changes (LP: #726769):
- debian/powernap/eucalyptus.conf: Add config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.install: Install config.
- debian/eucalyptus-nc.links: Symlink to /etc/powernap/config.d/.
  * debian/control: Change Recommends order of bittorrent to bittornado
first. Allows demontion of bittorrent. (LP: #697753)
 -- Andres Rodriguez andres...@ubuntu.com   Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:23:36 -0400

** Changed in: eucalyptus (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 605062] Re: (lucid) autofs had a strange behaviour with paths

2011-03-31 Thread Chuck Short
Closing bug report then.

** Changed in: autofs5 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Won't Fix

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[Bug 717166] Re: Broken with v4 isc-dhcp-server in Natty

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/isc-dhcp

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[Bug 735072] Re: The hostname proposed by installer is too long for file sharing to work correctly.

2011-03-31 Thread Johan Fornander
Mac OS X broadcasts the first 15 characters of your hostname via
NetBIOS. This works for them so it could be a good solution for Ubuntu
as well.

If you have to, you could perhaps set up a truncated hostname alias if
the samba hostname must be reachable through /etc/hosts? That way the
machine could be reached by both 15 and 63 (or 255) byte names, or am I
wrong? If not, just truncate it in the smb.conf and notify user of the
shorter NETBIOS name to browse for just like in OSX? I'm for the second
option.

BTW, make sure that you use 15 and not 16 characters as the limit for
samba hosts... From wikipedia:

The NetBIOS name is 16 ASCII characters, however Microsoft limits the
hostname to 15 characters and reserves the 16th character as a NetBIOS
Suffix.

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[Bug 742748] Re: package backuppc 3.2.0-3ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2

2011-03-31 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: backuppc (Ubuntu Natty)
   Importance: High
 Assignee: Chuck Short (zulcss)
   Status: New

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[Bug 742748] Re: package backuppc 3.2.0-3ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2

2011-03-31 Thread Brian Murray
I was able to recreate this when installing the same version of
backuppc.

** Changed in: backuppc (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: New = Triaged

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[Bug 561750] Re: squid starts and stops immediately (after upgrade from karmic to lucid)

2011-03-31 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: squid (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: squid (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: squid (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: squid (Ubuntu Lucid)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.04.3

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[Bug 741661] Re: Web UI does not work from default install (2.1.0~bzr-2009-0ubuntu1)l

2011-03-31 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Hmm, there's a bit more work to be done on this bug.

 1) I still had to edit cobbler_web.conf and comment out:
 #CustomLog logs/access_log combined env=!dontlog

 2) The symlinks in cobbler-web.postinst all need to be ln -sf, or
else upgrades of the package will fail.

 3) I still had to edit /etc/cobbler/modules.conf and set:
  module = authn_configfile

 4) I still had to add users to /etc/cobbler/users.digest and restart.

I have a patch that solves most of this.

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[Bug 741661] Re: Web UI does not work from default install (2.1.0~bzr-2009-0ubuntu1)l

2011-03-31 Thread Dustin Kirkland
** Patch added: 741661.debdiff
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cobbler/+bug/741661/+attachment/1961361/+files/741661.debdiff

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Triaged

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[Bug 746847] [NEW] cobbler packages don't rebuild

2011-03-31 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: cobbler

Looks like 'make clean' needs to clear out:
 * docs/cobbler.1.gz   docs/cobbler-register.1.gz  docs/koan.1.gz   
   

Or if not, in the rules file, at least

** Affects: cobbler (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Medium
 Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)
 Status: In Progress

** Affects: cobbler (Ubuntu Natty)
 Importance: Medium
 Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)
 Status: In Progress

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)

** Also affects: cobbler (Ubuntu Natty)
   Importance: Medium
 Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)
   Status: In Progress

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[Bug 746854] [NEW] upgrades broken if symlinks exist, one symlink is plain wrong

2011-03-31 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: cobbler

I'm not sure why these symlinks are being handled in cobbler-
web.postint, but I do see two problems with them:

 1) one of the symlinks is wrong; it should be:
ln -sf /usr/share/cobbler/webroot/cobbler_webui_content 
/var/www/cobbler_webui_content

 2) we need ln -sf so that upgrade succeed;  otherwise, an upgrade of
this package will fail in the postinst if those symlinks are present

I'd rather see these moved entirely to a cobbler-web.links file.  But in
the mean time, let's fix what's just plain broken.

** Affects: cobbler (Ubuntu)
 Importance: High
 Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)
 Status: Fix Released

** Affects: cobbler (Ubuntu Natty)
 Importance: High
 Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)
 Status: Fix Released

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Medium = High

** Also affects: cobbler (Ubuntu Natty)
   Importance: High
 Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)
   Status: In Progress

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[Bug 746854] Re: upgrades broken if symlinks exist, one symlink is plain wrong

2011-03-31 Thread Dustin Kirkland
** Patch added: 746854.debdiff
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cobbler/+bug/746854/+attachment/1961407/+files/746854.debdiff

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[Bug 746854] Re: upgrades broken if symlinks exist, one symlink is plain wrong

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package cobbler - 2.1.0-0ubuntu2

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cobbler (2.1.0-0ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low

  * debian/rules: clean out manpage zipfiles, so that rebuilds work,
LP: #746847
  * debian/cobbler-web.postinst: LP: #746854
- fix broken link
- use ln -sf so that upgrades work
 -- Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com   Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:23:29 -0500

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 746847] Re: cobbler packages don't rebuild

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package cobbler - 2.1.0-0ubuntu2

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cobbler (2.1.0-0ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low

  * debian/rules: clean out manpage zipfiles, so that rebuilds work,
LP: #746847
  * debian/cobbler-web.postinst: LP: #746854
- fix broken link
- use ln -sf so that upgrades work
 -- Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com   Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:23:29 -0500

** Changed in: cobbler (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 719174] Re: Typo in package description string

2011-03-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package qemu-kvm - 0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu4

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qemu-kvm (0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu4) natty; urgency=low

  *LP: #719174
   Typo corrected
 -- Bhaveek Desai bhaveekdesai...@gmail.com   Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:06:54 +0530

** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 740815]

2011-03-31 Thread Colin Walters
GJS changes to support this release: 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646369

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  [FFe] Updates to enable us to drop xulrunner from main

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[Bug 740815] Re: [FFe] Updates to enable us to drop xulrunner from main

2011-03-31 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #646369
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646369

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[Bug 746963] [NEW] package clamav-base (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2011-03-31 Thread Saurav Ghosh
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: clamav

Just tried to install clamav from Synaptic.  It error'ed out running
clamav-base's config script

ProblemType: Package
Architecture: i386
Date: Fri Apr  1 09:34:46 2011
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit 
status 1
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - Release i386 (20091028.5)
NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx
Package: clamav-base (not installed)
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-23.74-generic
SourcePackage: clamav
Title: package clamav-base (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: 
subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Uname: Linux 2.6.31-23-generic i686

** Affects: clamav (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: apport-package i386

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[Bug 746963] Re: package clamav-base (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2011-03-31 Thread Saurav Ghosh
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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Nagios

2011-03-31 Thread Thierry Carrez
Félim Whiteley wrote:
 I'd have to put my +1 for getting Shinken 
 (http://www.shinken-monitoring.org/) 
 in it's place. It's config file compatible but is actively developed (ok not 
 completely fair on Nagios but it's a monolithic engine and the web interface 
 still looks like they are partying like it's 1997). Perhaps it's a little 
 early in the dev cycle for Shinken but I've found the folks on the dev list 
 really pushing it past Nagios. Also its got a comedy like Ubuntu release name 
 for 0.5 ;)

+1 for Shinken, which is designed in a cloud-compatible way (multiple
types of parallel workers). Compatibility with Nagios config files is
definitely a +. Written in Python.

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Fwd: Cobbler 2.1.0

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Very cool, an official release of Cobbler is now available that can
install Ubuntu and Debian.

We should be shipping 2.1.0 in 11.04, or at least, a very very close
pre-released version of it.

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To: cobbler development list cobbler-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:11:10 -0700
Subject: Cobbler 2.1.0


I'd like to officially announce availability of Cobbler 2.1.0 [0]. It
contains a lot of new functionality. The biggest of these changes are
the addition of a bunch of new Distributions that we can manage. I think
most people will find Debian and Ubuntu support to be the most
interesting. Please check the change log and git for all the
particulars. Thanks to all who made this possible. Enjoy.

[0] - http://shenson.fedorapeople.org/cobbler/cobbler-2.1.0.tar.gz

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Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements

This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:

 * 300 MHz x86 processor
 * 128MB of system memory (RAM)
 * 1GB of disk space
 * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480
 * CD-ROM drive

The first one is somewhat funny, as I think there were only a few early
Pentium II's and PentiumPro's that ran at 300Mhz. Since we dropped i586
support in Maverick, might we also think about raising this to say,
450Mhz ?

Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
Server.. is it a realistic minimum?

Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.

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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi

I'm just an (ex-) user of ubuntu-server, but

On Thursday 31 March 2011 09:43:33 Clint Byrum wrote:
 Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
 Server.. is it a realistic minimum?
 
Think about running ubuntu server in a VM along with many others, if it fits 
into 128MB it's great!

 Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
 the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.

Also CD-ROM drive required? PXE and USB are certainly possible when you don't 
have a drive, right?

Cheers

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Package Updates

2011-03-31 Thread Dave Walker

On 31/03/11 00:19, Clint Byrum wrote:

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke wrote:

  Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?


Could you provide some rationalization of MariaDB vs. the main MySQL
releases?

There are a bunch of forks we could consider with varying degrees of
compatibility with MYSQL.

Percona (working on packaging)
MariaDB (available from their own repos)
Drizzle (in universe)

Compatible or not, none of these are really MySQL.

I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any of these as
our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like Hudson.. Oracle
seems to be taking good care of it and (for the time being) nothing has
changed in their approach to community contribution (which has never
been fantastic anyway).




There seems to be at least some interest in other options.  As Clint 
points out, rational needs to be known in order to make a reasonable 
decision.  I am not familiar with the details of the other mysql 
compatible database options.  If we have a UDS session discussing this, 
we really need the facts available before the session.


I'd like to request that interested people help complete a feature 
matrix on the wiki [0].  Please feel free to add as much information as 
possible.  In this instance, a Feature can also be a negative thing.  
Please add suitable references.


Thanks, your help is appreciated.

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase/FeatureComparison/MySQL

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] SRU Process

2011-03-31 Thread Nicolas Barcet
On 03/30/2011 04:40 PM, Chuck Short wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I do not have the statistics in front of me, but I believe most of
 users are using LTS releases of Ubuntu. 

Here are the stats from the latest server survey:

10.10 (8) 1793 33.17%
10.04 LTS (7) 2880 53.28%
9.10 (6) 461 8.53%
9.04 (5) 306 5.66%
8.10 (4) 121 2.24%
8.04LTS (3) 854 15.80%
6.06LTS (1) 104 1.92%

Which confirms you point: 71% of our user base is on an LTS.

 The policy of cherrypicking
 fixes from the development releases does not scale in my opinon. We
 should offer PPAs for users who want to use a new version of for
 example Apache. Or go through the list of packages we support and see
 if we can get it to qualify as a micro release update.

Strongly agree on this point if we focus on stable release for a list of
specified packages (defining this list should be our first task). I
would suggest that our commitment should be the same as for point
releases: for the list of packages, stable releases would be made
available until the next LTS, on PPA per stable release.  The PPA usage
would, I think, ensure that people do not upgrade to a major new version
without knowing it.

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Puppet Integration

2011-03-31 Thread Nicolas Barcet
On 03/30/2011 05:04 PM, Etienne Goyer wrote:
 On 11-03-30 10:53 AM, Chuck Short wrote:
 Ubuntu server should be offering better Puppet integration. This
 includes the following:

 * Making it really easy to deploy a puppet master server.
 * Possible d-i integration
 * Pre-canned puppet reciepes
 
 It's been an ongoing topic for while.  I think we really have the
 opportunity to differentiate Ubuntu here.  In particular, preseedable
 d-i integration would make Ubuntu deployment a completely hands-off
 operation.  Again, count me in for that one!

Isn't this already achievable by preseding a cloud-init script which
then does the puppet magic?

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Improvements to cobbler

2011-03-31 Thread Nicolas Barcet
On 03/30/2011 05:14 PM, Chuck Short wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I would like to see more puppet intergration with cobbler.

I'd like to see cobbler to grow a field to a cloud-init script that
would be used to preseed the machine, so that the script is served
directly by the cobbler server.

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Nagios

2011-03-31 Thread Dave Walker

On 30/03/11 20:58, Greg Wallace wrote:
OpenNMS www.*opennms*.org and Zenoss www.*zenoss*.com are two other 
options that I think are also worthy of consideration.

SNIP



Seems to me that we should consider dropping nagios from main and
promoting icinga as its replacement:



SNIP

Hi,

To try and make comparison easier, can those interested please add to 
the following feature comparison matrix [0].  For the purpose of a 
Feature it can be a positive or negative thing.  Please add suitable 
references where possible.


Thanks for your help.

[0] 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase/FeatureComparison/NetworkMonitoring


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tomcat - which version to download

2011-03-31 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi,

As of now I am using tomcat apache 5.5.27 with java version 1.6.0_24 on
Ubuntu Server 10.04. I happened to visit the url -
http://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html Bit confused. Not sure which
version i need to go for my production purpose to avail latest features and
performance improvement.

Please suggest/guide.

Thanks

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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements

This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:

 * 300 MHz x86 processor
 * 128MB of system memory (RAM)
 * 1GB of disk space
 * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480
 * CD-ROM drive

The first one is somewhat funny, as I think there were only a few early
Pentium II's and PentiumPro's that ran at 300Mhz. Since we dropped i586
support in Maverick, might we also think about raising this to say,
450Mhz ?

Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
Server.. is it a realistic minimum?

Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.

CDROM is definitely not required.

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Package Updates

2011-03-31 Thread Ralph Janke

 On 03/30/2011 07:19 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke wrote:

  Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?


Could you provide some rationalization of MariaDB vs. the main MySQL
releases?

There are a bunch of forks we could consider with varying degrees of
compatibility with MYSQL.

Percona (working on packaging)
MariaDB (available from their own repos)
Drizzle (in universe)

Compatible or not, none of these are really MySQL.

I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any of these as
our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like Hudson.. Oracle
seems to be taking good care of it and (for the time being) nothing has
changed in their approach to community contribution (which has never
been fantastic anyway).


There are lots of reasons to go to mariadb!

1) They explicitly promise that they are always 100% backwards 
compatible to the

related mysql version, hence nothing is lost in comparison with mysql

2) Mysql only tracks queries with 1s execution time granularity. Mariadb 
tracks by
default ms granularity. This is very important for performance analysis 
of in

particular websites.

3) MariaDb offers additional features (and storage engines) by default 
that in mysql

require proprietary licences to obtain similar.

Every case that I know of, mariadb could be just plugged into the system 
for mysql without

any issues.

That are only the reasons that come immediately into me head, there are 
many more when you

look at the comparisons.



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Re: Feedback on the Ubuntu kernel for server and cloud

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Moser
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, John Johansen wrote:

 The kernel team is looking for feedback on the state of the kernel for
 server and cloud flavors of Ubuntu.  Any and all feed back is welcome.

 What are we doing right?
 What are we doing wrong?
 What configs should we change?
 What new features should we included?

 And most importantly what are the use cases for any desired changes,
 so that we can evaluate changes in context.

 This information will be used to help improve the Ubuntu kernels
 and to help ensure that we have the best server and cloud flavors
 available.

Something I think should be up for discussion was the flavour versus
sub-flavour status of -virtual.

We moved to flavour I think in maverick.  That gave us more freedom to
differentiate from the configuration of the '-server' kernel, but meant
that we couldn't 100% just take the modules we needed from -server, as
Loic pointed out.

I think one of the primary reasons for splitting was to put some kernel
modules built-in that previously were not builtin in the -server kernel.
I'm not sure exactly which it was, though.  I know at one point I had
hoped that -virtual would be a small-ish kernel targetting supporting via
built-in hypervisor hardware (from virtualbox to vmware to kvm to xen...).

There is definitely value in having a kernel that just works, but a
small ramdisk isn't that bad.

If losing boot without ramdisk is the only thing we really lose by going
back to sub-flavour, then I think it should be considered.



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qcow2 snapshotting: does it influence future IO performance?

2011-03-31 Thread jurgen . depicker
Hi Alvin.

I read on your site that you stopped work on a project because LVM 
snapshots potentially decreased IO performance, and I also saw that you 
worked on a perl project to make copies of VMs, so therefore I address my 
question directly to you.

Your work reminded me of something I read some weeks ago on qcow2 on 
http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/qcow-image-format.html and which raised my 
brows at the time:
Snapshots - real snapshots - are represented in the original image 
itself. Each snapshot is a read-only record of the image a past instant. 
The original image remains writable and as modifications are made to it, a 
copy of the original data is made for any snapshots referring to it. 

I tried to find more info about this, but didn't yet.  So here's my 
question: does anybody know whether, having made snapshots of a VM during 
several stages of its life (clean install, important service installed, 
...), affects IO performance of any writes made after snapshotting, as one 
could suspect from my quote above?

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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Ken Hansen
Just my $0.02 worth (in line comments):

On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:
 
 * 300 MHz x86 processor

The requirement of 300 MHz has more to do with providing a backhand way of 
indicating a generation of processor - it may be prudent to reword this to say 
Pentium II processor or compatible

 * 128MB of system memory (RAM)

While 128 Meg of RAM is tight for a standard install, I can easily imagine a VM 
running in that small amount of RAM (what is it called now, a 'minimal' install 
of Ubuntu Server could probably run fine with 128 Meg). 

 * 1GB of disk space

The install media fits on a CD-R, so a 1 gig footprint for the OS seems right 
(user requirements would certainly add to that, but the 'requirement' is for 
the OS only)

 * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480

Serial consoles may be an option, but they are far from mainstream, maybe it 
would make sense to add , or a previously configured serial console

Also, as a question, is the 640x480 a hard coded requirement, or can the 
installer handle lower resolutions?

 * CD-ROM drive

As others have noted, a CD-ROM is not a requirement, maybe add words to the 
effect  or other compatible way to load the OS, USB key, PXE NetBoot, etc.

A hardware requirement means something is required to function, not makes for 
a 'comfortable user experience' - that is why many OS vendors describe both a 
set of system requirements and a recommended system configuration.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth...

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Nagios

2011-03-31 Thread Michael Jeanson
- Original Message -
 Félim Whiteley wrote:
  I'd have to put my +1 for getting Shinken
  (http://www.shinken-monitoring.org/)
  in it's place. It's config file compatible but is actively developed
  (ok not
  completely fair on Nagios but it's a monolithic engine and the web
  interface
  still looks like they are partying like it's 1997). Perhaps it's a
  little
  early in the dev cycle for Shinken but I've found the folks on the
  dev list
  really pushing it past Nagios. Also its got a comedy like Ubuntu
  release name
  for 0.5 ;)
 
 +1 for Shinken, which is designed in a cloud-compatible way (multiple
 types of parallel workers). Compatibility with Nagios config files is
 definitely a +. Written in Python.
 
 --
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 Ubuntu core developer

+1 for Shinken too, it is developed on Ubuntu and I already made some
basic packages in a PPA (https://launchpad.net/~shinken-dev/+archive/ppa).
It may not be very mature yet but it has a very interesting feature set
while retaining compatibility with Nagios configuration files.

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Re: tomcat - which version to download

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kaushal Shriyan's message of Thu Mar 31 04:34:47 -0700 2011:
 Hi,
 
 As of now I am using tomcat apache 5.5.27 with java version 1.6.0_24 on
 Ubuntu Server 10.04. I happened to visit the url -
 http://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html Bit confused. Not sure which
 version i need to go for my production purpose to avail latest features and
 performance improvement.
 
 Please suggest/guide.

If you want to take advantage of the high degree of stability of 10.04
you should probably think about using the 'tomcat6' package in Lucid,
which is v6.0.24 + patches for critical issues.

However if you have some specific reason to use tomcat 5.5 .. then you
are on your own as far as recommendations.. how can we help you choose?

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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements

 This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:

  * 300 MHz x86 processor
  * 128MB of system memory (RAM)
  * 1GB of disk space
  * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480
  * CD-ROM drive

 The first one is somewhat funny, as I think there were only a few early
 Pentium II's and PentiumPro's that ran at 300Mhz. Since we dropped i586
 support in Maverick, might we also think about raising this to say,
 450Mhz ?

 Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
 Server.. is it a realistic minimum?

 Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
 the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.

Correct.  For reference I was able to install Natty just now in a KVM
with no VGA with the following:

kvm -cdrom natty-server-amd64.iso -kernel vmlinuz -initrd initrd.gz
--append console=ttyS0 priority=critical locale=en_US
url=http://bit.ly/uquick; -vga none -serial stdio

Note that I loop mounted the iso to extract vmlinuz and initrd.gz,
which are required if you use kvm's --append.  If you haven't done
this before, running the Ubuntu Installer in a virtual machine on a
command line over SSH is kind of fun :-)

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Package Updates

2011-03-31 Thread Chuck Short
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:55:44 -0400
Ralph Janke txwikin...@ubuntu.com wrote:

   On 03/30/2011 07:19 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke wrote:
Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?
 
  Could you provide some rationalization of MariaDB vs. the main MySQL
  releases?
 
  There are a bunch of forks we could consider with varying degrees of
  compatibility with MYSQL.
 
  Percona (working on packaging)
  MariaDB (available from their own repos)
  Drizzle (in universe)
 
  Compatible or not, none of these are really MySQL.
 
  I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any of these
  as our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like
  Hudson.. Oracle seems to be taking good care of it and (for the
  time being) nothing has changed in their approach to community
  contribution (which has never been fantastic anyway).
 
 There are lots of reasons to go to mariadb!
 
 1) They explicitly promise that they are always 100% backwards 
 compatible to the
 related mysql version, hence nothing is lost in comparison with mysql
 
 2) Mysql only tracks queries with 1s execution time granularity.
 Mariadb tracks by
 default ms granularity. This is very important for performance
 analysis of in
 particular websites.
 
 3) MariaDb offers additional features (and storage engines) by
 default that in mysql
 require proprietary licences to obtain similar.
 
 Every case that I know of, mariadb could be just plugged into the
 system for mysql without
 any issues.
 
 That are only the reasons that come immediately into me head, there
 are many more when you
 look at the comparisons.
 
 
 

HI,

Sure Mariadb is great but I'm looking with my distro glasses on and I
see this:

chuck@kyle:~$ apt-cache rdepends libmysqlclient16 | wc -l
166

The 166 is the number of packages that depend on libmysqlclient for
functionality that they need. This includes both main and universe.

So unless we have a clear plan of transitioning from mysql to mariadb
and help from upstream both in Debian and the mariab developers then
one can argue about the technical merits of one database over another
until the cows come home.

chuck

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Package Updates

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ralph Janke's message of Thu Mar 31 05:55:44 -0700 2011:
   On 03/30/2011 07:19 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke wrote:
Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?
 
  I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any of these as
  our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like Hudson.. Oracle
  seems to be taking good care of it and (for the time being) nothing has
  changed in their approach to community contribution (which has never
  been fantastic anyway).
 
 There are lots of reasons to go to mariadb!

Ralph, your reasons are pretty compelling. Could you make sure they're
up to date in the wiki matrix that Dave Walker posted a link to?

I definitely think we should have a discussion about this at UDS. It
would be a bold move to move MySQL out of main and instead make the M
in our LAMP server MariaDB.

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] vlan on cd

2011-03-31 Thread Michael Jeanson
- Original Message -
 ivoks mentioned during a server team meeting that he'd like to see
 vlan
 on the cd, and installed by default.
 

+1 That would be very useful in some networks.

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Nagios

2011-03-31 Thread Etienne Goyer
On 11-03-30 03:57 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
  On 03/30/2011 02:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:59 -0400, Chuck Short wrote:
 Hi,

 I think we should re-evaluate if nagios is the monitoring solution we
 want to support and if it easy make really really easy to deploy.

 Seems to me that we should consider dropping nagios from main and
 promoting icinga as its replacement:

 https://www.icinga.org/faq/why-a-fork/

 +1 from me

Not that I care a whole lot, but isn't this somewhat the same debate as
MySQL vs. one of the many forks?

Nagios is now an household brand in IT.  I would be very, very cautious
about dumping that out in favor of a recent fork.  I am all for doing a
competitive analysis, but please take market adoption into account.


(Not that I have any love for Nagios; it's hairy and bynzantine.  Just
saying that we should be cautious here.)


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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Improvements to cobbler

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nicolas Barcet's message of Thu Mar 31 03:20:43 -0700 2011:
 On 03/30/2011 05:14 PM, Chuck Short wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I would like to see more puppet intergration with cobbler.
 
 I'd like to see cobbler to grow a field to a cloud-init script that
 would be used to preseed the machine, so that the script is served
 directly by the cobbler server.

I believe this is already handled by the preseed file with

preseed/run

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] SRU Process

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Scott Kitterman's message of Wed Mar 30 08:31:15 -0700 2011:
 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
 
 It's driven by user request and testing.  In the case of packages with 
 rdepends we require testing of those as well (sometimes rdepends need to be 
 backported as well) so we don't leave users with a broken system.  A 
 reasonably large fraction of users enable backports, so we need to be careful 
 (you should have seenthe flurry of bug reports when I did a backport that 
 broke Flash).
 
 Once we have not-automatic fully deployed we might be able to reconsider this.
 
 Backports are a purely community driven process, so we're always looking for 
 more help.

Scott, I think it may be worth arguing for a bit more of the
Canonical-Employed server team members' time if backports achieves the
level of usability that seems very close. I think it would certainly
make upstreams happier too if instead of cherrypicking medium priority
fixes into -updates, we just put critical fixes in -updates and pointed
anyone wanting those nit-pick bugs fixed at backports.

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Nagios

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Clapham

On 31/03/2011 15:34, Etienne Goyer wrote:

On 11-03-30 03:57 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
   

  On 03/30/2011 02:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
 

On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:59 -0400, Chuck Short wrote:
   

Hi,

I think we should re-evaluate if nagios is the monitoring solution we
want to support and if it easy make really really easy to deploy.

 

Seems to me that we should consider dropping nagios from main and
promoting icinga as its replacement:

https://www.icinga.org/faq/why-a-fork/

   

+1 from me
 

Not that I care a whole lot, but isn't this somewhat the same debate as
MySQL vs. one of the many forks?

Nagios is now an household brand in IT.  I would be very, very cautious
about dumping that out in favor of a recent fork.  I am all for doing a
competitive analysis, but please take market adoption into account.


(Not that I have any love for Nagios; it's hairy and bynzantine.  Just
saying that we should be cautious here.)


   

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Re: Cobbler 2.1.0

2011-03-31 Thread Mathias Gug
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Very cool, an official release of Cobbler is now available that can
 install Ubuntu and Debian.

Great work!


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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Nagios

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Etienne Goyer's message of Thu Mar 31 07:34:56 -0700 2011:
 On 11-03-30 03:57 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
   On 03/30/2011 02:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:59 -0400, Chuck Short wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I think we should re-evaluate if nagios is the monitoring solution we
  want to support and if it easy make really really easy to deploy.
 
  Seems to me that we should consider dropping nagios from main and
  promoting icinga as its replacement:
 
  https://www.icinga.org/faq/why-a-fork/
 
  +1 from me
 
 Not that I care a whole lot, but isn't this somewhat the same debate as
 MySQL vs. one of the many forks?
 
 Nagios is now an household brand in IT.  I would be very, very cautious
 about dumping that out in favor of a recent fork.  I am all for doing a
 competitive analysis, but please take market adoption into account.
 

We have already committed to Nagios for 4 more years with 10.04. Its
not going anywhere.

Meanwhile in 1 year, we will be making another commitment with P. I'd
like to see us make the delta between O and P's seeds very small, and
largely subtractive (removing things we don't want to support).

So if we're going to make a bold move, we should analyze these things
with an eye for where it appears they will go in the next year.

IMO, Nagios will remain popular, but lose ground slowly to alternatives
(as it has for the last few years). Icinga is a mystery to me, but
should get better than Nagios. Zenoss seems to be gaining steam at a
rapid pace. This Shinken thing looks *very* interesting, and they've
made a very wise decision to stick w/ nagios config file compatibility.

The way I'd like to see this happen is people read up on all the
alternatives, talk to users, and bring their experience and knowledge
of the conflicts, positives, and negatives for each with them to a UDS
session. We should try to accomplish as much as possible here and on
the wiki page so the session can stay focused on the question at hand:
Should nagios remain in main, and if not, what would take its place?

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] SRU Process

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:02:11 AM Clint Byrum wrote:
 Excerpts from Scott Kitterman's message of Wed Mar 30 08:31:15 -0700 2011:
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
  
  It's driven by user request and testing.  In the case of packages with
  rdepends we require testing of those as well (sometimes rdepends need to
  be backported as well) so we don't leave users with a broken system.  A
  reasonably large fraction of users enable backports, so we need to be
  careful (you should have seenthe flurry of bug reports when I did a
  backport that broke Flash).
  
  Once we have not-automatic fully deployed we might be able to reconsider
  this.
  
  Backports are a purely community driven process, so we're always looking
  for more help.
 
 Scott, I think it may be worth arguing for a bit more of the
 Canonical-Employed server team members' time if backports achieves the
 level of usability that seems very close. I think it would certainly
 make upstreams happier too if instead of cherrypicking medium priority
 fixes into -updates, we just put critical fixes in -updates and pointed
 anyone wanting those nit-pick bugs fixed at backports.

That's exactly the model we'd like to have.  More contribution is, of course, 
welcome.  

I would really like to minimize the amount of out of archive stuff our users 
need to get their needs met.  Backports is, IMO, an important part of this.

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] SRU Process

2011-03-31 Thread Etienne Goyer
On 11-03-30 11:38 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
 On the other hand, it doesn't make sense to break everyone's servers
 every month when we update the apache or php version and the config
 files/features/ABI change and their applications stop working. This is
 the type of thing that enterprises dread...and is why IE6 took so long
 to die...

The use-case I have in mind is people deploying LTS now to found out
there is a bug in a package important to them that has been fixed in a
later release.  If the bug is not SRU-worthy, their options boils down
to 1. run a non-LTS release of Ubuntu to benefit from the bug fix, or 2.
use an unsupported/unmaintained version of the buggy package (backport,
PPA, compiled from source, whatever).

Agreed that Apache is not such a good example here.


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Re: Fwd: Cobbler 2.1.0

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Scott Kitterman's message of Thu Mar 31 08:24:05 -0700 2011:
 
 I accepted 2.1.0 into the archive earlier this morning.
 

And there was much rejoicing!

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Puppet Integration

2011-03-31 Thread Chuck Short
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:59:17 -1000
Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk wrote:

 On 03/30/2011 04:53 AM, Chuck Short wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Ubuntu server should be offering better Puppet integration. This
  includes the following:
 
  * Making it really easy to deploy a puppet master server.
  * Possible d-i integration
  * Pre-canned puppet reciepes
 
 
  Regards
  chuck
 
 To play a little bit of devils advocate, what is wrong with the
 current method?
 Puppet installs over apt-get and takes editing a quick 
 /etc/default/puppet file to say YES to enable it (rather than risk 
 conflicts)
 
 Paul
 
 
 

Nothing is wrong with the current method per se. My view is that it
just provides the basics to the users. With Ubuntu orchestra as said
before we are trying to offer more than what we currently offer, which
is the basics.

Regards
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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] SRU Process

2011-03-31 Thread Chuck Short
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:25:44 -0400
Etienne Goyer etienne.go...@canonical.com wrote:

 On 11-03-30 11:05 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
  On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:40:36 AM Chuck Short wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I do not have the statistics in front of me, but I believe most of
  users are using LTS releases of Ubuntu. The policy of cherrypicking
  fixes from the development releases does not scale in my opinon. We
  should offer PPAs for users who want to use a new version of for
  example Apache. Or go through the list of packages we support and
  see if we can get it to qualify as a micro release update.
  
  We can also do a lot of this through backports.  We are very close
  to having the backports only install packages that users explicitly
  request from backports (just waiting on an LP change that's in
  progress), so it will be much safer to use going forward.
 
 The mechanism itself is really only half the question.  I am more
 interested in the level of commitment we are willing to make in
 keeping certain key software fresh in LTS.  Whether we deliver
 these in backports, PPA or some other mechanism is really just an
 implementation detail, IMHO.
 
 

Right when I brought this up, I was more interested in the burden of
tracking down the fixes in upstream code, backporing the fix, and
asking for user testing. If you look at:

http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/SRUTracker/sru-tracker-bugs.html

We have a lot of requests for SRU bug fixes which takes time to
fix. Depending on the workload that what have, we do what we can. 

From the systems administrator perspective if they want to use newer
versions of apache, mysql, etc then great they can use backports/ppa.
If they want to be a more cautious then they can still use the
*-updates pocket. Its really all about choice in this case.

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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Alejandro Leyva
My 2 cents:

We have some VM's that use only 128MB, they are in production and are
part of a large deployment.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Ken Hansen n2...@verizon.net wrote:
 Just my $0.02 worth (in line comments):

 On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 * 128MB of system memory (RAM)

 While 128 Meg of RAM is tight for a standard install, I can easily imagine a 
 VM running in that small amount of RAM (what is it called now, a 'minimal' 
 install of Ubuntu Server could probably run fine with 128 Meg).


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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Server Boot

2011-03-31 Thread Preston Hagar
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
 There was a lot of discussion around improving the server boot experience
 before the UDS-M.  A number of people expressed interest in seeing more useful
 diagnostic information during boot.  Others expressed concerns with boot
 reliability on the more complex hardware typically found in servers.

 How are we doing on this?  Personally, I can't remember the last time I
 rebooted a server and it wasn't via SSH and the hardware I use is the sort
 there were problems with.  Are these still issues for the Ubuntu Server
 community?

 Scott K


Our servers are still either Lucid or Hardy, so forgive me if this has
been addressed in Meerkat.  An issue we ran into when moving servers
to Lucid was the new (to me at least) nobootwait flag for fstab.  This
bit us because we were migrating our data partition from one RAID
array to another.  We thought we had everything setup correctly,
rebooted for one reason or another, and the server would not come up.
The bad thing is that our server was in a colo facility, not in our
office (like I'm sure a lot of them are).  Long story short, we had
fat fingered the fstab entry for our data partition that we mount at
/var/data.  The server was just sitting there waiting for someone to
hook up a monitor and press the s key so it would skip trying to mount
/var/data, and would boot the system so we could fix it.  In the end,
we just paid our colo's remote hands fee and had them do it, but it
was annoying to have to pay them a fee just to push the s key so we
could fix our system.

Are there any plans/ideas to prevent that from happening?  We have
since been sure to add the nobootwait option to our non-os related
partitions for safe keeping in the future, and I am sure it was
probably mentioned in the release notes somewhere, but it seems kind
of backwards to keep a commonly headless machine like a server from
booting, when it can, just because another (perhaps non essential)
partition isn't setup correctly.  In the past, it would have booted up
and just not mounted the data partition.

Thanks,

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Re: qcow2 snapshotting: does it influence future IO performance?

2011-03-31 Thread Alvin

On Thursday 31 March 2011 15:15:35 jurgen.depic...@let.be wrote:

Hi Alvin.

I read on your site that you stopped work on a project because LVM
snapshots potentially decreased IO performance, and I also saw that you
worked on a perl project to make copies of VMs, so therefore I address my
question directly to you.

Your work reminded me of something I read some weeks ago on qcow2 on
http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/qcow-image-format.html and which raised my
brows at the time:
Snapshots - real snapshots - are represented in the original image
itself. Each snapshot is a read-only record of the image a past instant.
The original image remains writable and as modifications are made to it, a
copy of the original data is made for any snapshots referring to it. 

I tried to find more info about this, but didn't yet.  So here's my
question: does anybody know whether, having made snapshots of a VM during
several stages of its life (clean install, important service installed,
...), affects IO performance of any writes made after snapshotting, as one
could suspect from my quote above?


There is a difference between qcow2 snapshots and lvm snapshots. You 
probably want qcow2 snapshots in a typical testing scenario where you 
start from a good working virtual machine, snapshot it, break it, and 
then return to your snapshotted situation.
I didn't do that yet. Last time I tried, the snapshotting itself hung 
libvirt, but that was a long time ago. Things might be better now. I 
have no idea about the resulting performance. They are both 
'copy-on-write', so they might suffer from the same problems. I don't 
know if that's true, but it would be interesting to do some research here.


The performance drop caused by LVM snapshots is the reason why I 
abandoned the project. I originally took the idea from our ZFS setup at 
work. We're using /a lot/ of ZFS snapshots. It's a success story. If I 
would ever take that away, the users would be at my door with torches 
and pitchforks. It's the single reason to still have dealings with 
Oracle support. So, I started using LVM snapshots at regular intervals. 
The script I wrote was for easier management and auto-mounting of the 
snapshots. It ended in disaster and halted production on the Ubuntu 
servers. The reason is that ZFS snapshots and LVM snapshots are too 
different. The ZFS faq states that you need about 1GB of RAM for every 
10.000 filesystems. That includes snapshots, so that gives you an idea 
of the possibilities (and the different approach to filesystems). Even a 
single LVM  snapshot can bring an Ubuntu server on its knees and can 
lead to a kernel panic given the right (in a manner of speaking) 
circumstances.


It seemed a good idea at the time, but it will set fire to your daemons, 
hang your kernel and send your users screaming.


I did file a little bug report[1]. Originally, I thought it was 
qemu-img, but qemu-img is just a good I/O stress test. You can also use 
rsync or simply cp to hang the kernel.


What I currently do in the above testing scenario is copying the 
(offline) virtual machine, but I might try the qcow2 snapshots one day. 
Currently this is not possible because my test vm's run on logical 
volumes on RAID0. It speeds up the virtual machine itself, but the 
copying process is heavy and slow.


Maybe btrfs will be the answer in the near future?

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/712392

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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Puppet Integration

2011-03-31 Thread Mark Foster
On 03/31/2011 10:36 AM, Chuck Short wrote:
 Puppet installs over apt-get and takes editing a quick 
 /etc/default/puppet file to say YES to enable it (rather than risk 
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BTW this behavior is annoying, it should just rely on the normal methods
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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Puppet Integration

2011-03-31 Thread Paul Graydon

On 03/31/2011 11:52 AM, Mark Foster wrote:

On 03/31/2011 10:36 AM, Chuck Short wrote:

Puppet installs over apt-get and takes editing a quick

/etc/default/puppet file to say YES to enable it (rather than risk
conflicts)

BTW this behavior is annoying, it should just rely on the normal methods
i.e. update-rc.d puppet defaults

That may be the normal method, but it's not the Ubuntu (debian?) way, 
which is to automatically do that on install, and start the application 
up.  Personally I find that an annoying default, if for example, have to 
install an FTP server on a machine I don't want it starting up until 
I've had a chance to configure it first.


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Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Puppet Integration

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark Foster's message of Thu Mar 31 14:52:00 -0700 2011:
 On 03/31/2011 10:36 AM, Chuck Short wrote:
  Puppet installs over apt-get and takes editing a quick 
  /etc/default/puppet file to say YES to enable it (rather than risk 
  conflicts)
 
 BTW this behavior is annoying, it should just rely on the normal methods
 i.e. update-rc.d puppet defaults
 

Agreed. Does anybody know why puppet does this? What conflicts are we 
talking about?

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