Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: (Nanny) OGG Files

2008-02-25 Thread Andy
On 23/02/2008, Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need to try
  and find a plug in for eithre Windows Media or REAL that will play (Nanny)
  OGG audio files - anyone know of any and where to get them?

Try: http://vorbis.com/
Windows setup details: http://vorbis.com/setup_windows/

WMP uses direct show so you can use:
http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/downloads.html#stable

As for Realplayer I'm not sure the plugin is finished yet.

Have you considered VLC?

Andy

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Switched hard drives

2008-02-25 Thread Andy Watts
Chris Rowson wrote:
 Hi people

 l do hope that this hasn't been asked too many times before..

 l have 2 hard drives in my machine, 1 with windows 2k and the other with
 Ubuntu on it. l've tried having them both connected to the same ribbon
 and rebooting with either of the 2 hard drives powered. Sadly it doesn't
 seem to work so l wonder whether there's a solution..Both drives are set
 as masters.. l don't want to have both OSs on the same hard drive

 Please could someone offer a solution
 

 I'm assuming you've got a boot loader (Windows - NT loader I think? -
 or GRUB for Linux) installed on one of the hard drives. You'll need
 this on the bootable drive so that your PC knows where the operating
 system resides.

 Chris

   
Many thanks for the info Guys..

l did try setting both to masters, installing a switch on the -ve rail 
of the 2 molexes. Sadly it didn't work :(

Andy

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[ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread Andy Watts
Hi People

l'm interested to know whether there is a Linux alternative to Sage.. l 
might be able to get my wife to start using Ubuntu if there's something 
available that will allow her to import customers data properly.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread David
GNU Cash might be what you're looking for: http://www.gnucash.org/

I haven't personally used it so I can't comment on it, sorry.

David.

On 25/02/2008, Andy Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi People

 l'm interested to know whether there is a Linux alternative to Sage.. l
 might be able to get my wife to start using Ubuntu if there's something
 available that will allow her to import customers data properly.
 __
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread David
Oh, I also meant to say GNU Cash is available in the Ubuntu repositories,
along with another money program called Grisbi. You can find them both in
Add/Remove.

David.

On 25/02/2008, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 GNU Cash might be what you're looking for: http://www.gnucash.org/

 I haven't personally used it so I can't comment on it, sorry.

 David.

 On 25/02/2008, Andy Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi People
 
  l'm interested to know whether there is a Linux alternative to Sage.. l
  might be able to get my wife to start using Ubuntu if there's something
  available that will allow her to import customers data properly.
  __
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  Thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Switched hard drives

2008-02-25 Thread Andrew Oakley
Andy Watts wrote:
 Chris Rowson wrote:
 l have 2 hard drives in my machine, 1 with windows 2k and the other with
 Ubuntu on it. l've tried having them both connected to the same ribbon
 and rebooting with either of the 2 hard drives powered. Sadly it doesn't
 seem to work so l wonder whether there's a solution..Both drives are set
 as masters.. l don't want to have both OSs on the same hard drive

Okay, that tells us what you DON'T want to do. ;-)

What is it that you DO want to do?

* Dual boot using separate hard drives?

* Have removable drives?

* Something else? What?

Also... are you using IDE/ATA drives (wide flat ribbon) or SATA (thin 
cable)?

 I'm assuming you've got a boot loader (Windows - NT loader I think? -
 or GRUB for Linux) installed on one of the hard drives. You'll need
 this on the bootable drive so that your PC knows where the operating
 system resides.

I think Andy might be trying to switch off (electrically) one or other 
IDE hard drives... if so, a boot loader on only one of those drives 
won't help.

I suspect Andy is fundamentally misunderstanding the relationship 
between master/slave and boot options. I suspect Andy thinks a drive has 
to be master to be bootable (which is incorrect).

 l did try setting both to masters, installing a switch on the -ve rail 
 of the 2 molexes. Sadly it didn't work :(

Yeah, that really won't.

Why have you set them both as masters on the same cable?

* You want removable drives (because you're clever, and you might want 
to move the drive to another PC one day), or you want to be able to 
entirely switch off a drive (because you're trying to run on the 
absolute minimum current draw, perhaps because your machine is running 
from 12V DC battery such as a car or van, or because you're just REALLY 
stingy with the electricity bill)

In this case, buy a removable drive caddy or a USB external drive 
enclosure. Removable caddies are about ten quid and fit into a 5.25 
CD/DVD slot.

(Note that the environmental cost of manufacturing the caddy will vastly 
exceed the environmental cost of leaving the second drive switched on, 
in case you think this is some kind of green option; unused drives 
will switch into low-power mode anyway)

* You want to dual boot in the traditional manner

Set one as master and put your boot loader on it, such as GRUB. 
Configure this one boot loader to offer the option to boot off either 
drive. See the GRUB documentation or ask here for more help configuring 
GRUB across two drives (clue: HD0, HD1).

Set the other as slave. You won't need a boot loader on the slave, since 
the boot loader on the master drive will be able to boot off either 
drive (and indeed off any other connected bootable device).

* You want to dual boot through BIOS (because you hate configuring boot 
loaders, and your BIOS offers a simple boot menu such as Dell's F12 
option, and you're just a bit awkward like that)

Set one as master and the other as slave. The BIOS boot options will 
allow you to boot off drive 0, drive 1 etc.

Note that this still won't allow you to switch off the unused drive 
whilst the PC is running. But it will allow you to remove/disconnect the 
  slave drive (but not the master) once the PC is switched off.

* You don't want removable drives but you are determined to have two 
bootable drives that are masters (because both of the hard drives have 
had their master/slave jumpers permanently forced into the master 
position in an unfortunate but surprisingly selective accident with a 
soldering iron / tube of superglue / welding rod, OR, your hard drives 
are set to master by default and you've lost the jumpers)

Install the drives on separate cables. Change the jumpers on your CD/DVD 
drive to be a slave.

(I have some spare hard drive jumpers if you want one? Send an SAE to A 
Oakley, 7 Frampton Cottages, GL20 8NX)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software Freedom Day 2008

2008-02-25 Thread andy
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Paul Mellors wrote:
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 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software Freedom Day 2008
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I'll organise a Birmingham Team again. But this year I want MORE! :)
 
 If your in the Midlands and want to help, email me.
 
 Ciarán
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:
   It's that time again!
  
   Ok, it isn't, but it's worth mentioning that Software Freedom Day 2008 
 is on
   20th September this year. Just a heads up so you might want to put it 
 in
   your diary and start thinking about what we can do this year.
  
   Cheers,
   Al.
  

  Well in Devon  Cornwall (if the Devon  Cornwall LUG can agree!) we may
  be having three events running on the day, one in Penzance, one in
  Plymouth and another in Exeter.  Of course this is currently in theory,
  actually pulling it off is another matter!

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Ciaran,

If I'm about I should be glad to help.  I'll hopefully see you at a
SBLUG meeting before then too.

Regards,

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[ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread andy
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Guys,

I just thought I'd give a heads up on Remote Desktop.  A
Manchester-based company are going to release their remote desktop
connection software on ubuntu.  It's already got mac and windows clients
in BETA - and they're currently working on the installer for ubuntu.
This should be released soon.

I tried out the client between a mac and a XP machine - and it works
well.  Performance isn't better than anything else I've tried (NX, VNC)
and the interface is nice and simple.

Just thought it's the sort of software we like to see.. (soon-to-be)
proper cross-platform stuff.

Regards,

Andy
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[ubuntu-uk] Stage6 shutting down!!!

2008-02-25 Thread Javad Ayaz
http://www.stage6.com/

Im devastated!!! :(
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread Javad Ayaz
something that will work from a browser without having to install anything
(im at work!!dont want the man to find out :)  )will be nice

Regards

Javad


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 Guys,

 I just thought I'd give a heads up on Remote Desktop.  A
 Manchester-based company are going to release their remote desktop
 connection software on ubuntu.  It's already got mac and windows clients
 in BETA - and they're currently working on the installer for ubuntu.
 This should be released soon.

 I tried out the client between a mac and a XP machine - and it works
 well.  Performance isn't better than anything else I've tried (NX, VNC)
 and the interface is nice and simple.

 Just thought it's the sort of software we like to see.. (soon-to-be)
 proper cross-platform stuff.

 Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread Alan Pope
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 Guys,
 
 I just thought I'd give a heads up on Remote Desktop.  A
 Manchester-based company are going to release their remote desktop
 connection software on ubuntu.  It's already got mac and windows clients
 in BETA - and they're currently working on the installer for ubuntu.
 This should be released soon.
 

URL?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread andy
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Alan Pope wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 03:22:42PM +, andy wrote:
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 Guys,

 I just thought I'd give a heads up on Remote Desktop.  A
 Manchester-based company are going to release their remote desktop
 connection software on ubuntu.  It's already got mac and windows clients
 in BETA - and they're currently working on the installer for ubuntu.
 This should be released soon.

 
 URL?
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 

www.yuuguu.com

;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
Quoting andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I just thought I'd give a heads up on Remote Desktop.  A
 Manchester-based company are going to release their remote desktop
 connection software on ubuntu.  It's already got mac and windows clients
 in BETA - and they're currently working on the installer for ubuntu.
 This should be released soon.


Interesting, it it Open Source or Proprietory?

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Stage6 shutting down!!!

2008-02-25 Thread Mark Fraser
On Monday 25 February 2008 15:28:32 Javad Ayaz wrote:
 http://www.stage6.com/

 Im devastated!!! :(

So am I now, I hadn't heard about that site until you just told me :(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread Joshua Scotton
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 14:09 +, David wrote:
 GNU Cash might be what you're looking for: http://www.gnucash.org/
 
 I haven't personally used it so I can't comment on it, sorry.
 
 David.
 
 On 25/02/2008, Andy Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi People
 
 l'm interested to know whether there is a Linux alternative to
 Sage.. l
 might be able to get my wife to start using Ubuntu if there's
 something
 available that will allow her to import customers data
 properly.

Hi,

I'm sorry to say that GNUCash is nowhere near an alternative to Sage. 
It is a very good program and can be used for personal or sole trader
accounts, but it hasn't been any good for my needs when preparing UK
Limited Company Accounts.
As I haven't found anything else suitable for accounts on linux I'm
still having to dual boot my computer into Sage every time I need to
work on the accounts :(
If anybody else can contradict me on this I'd be really pleased, as Sage
is the only windows program that I can't find a linux alternative for.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread norman

 l'm interested to know whether there is a Linux alternative to Sage.. l 
 might be able to get my wife to start using Ubuntu if there's something 
 available that will allow her to import customers data properly.

I asked this question when I first started Ubuntu what now seems years
ago. So far, I have not come across an equivalent to Sage working on
Linux. I seem to recall that there was some talk of a software
development in South Africa but know no more.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread andy
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Rob Beard wrote:
 Quoting andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I just thought I'd give a heads up on Remote Desktop.  A
 Manchester-based company are going to release their remote desktop
 connection software on ubuntu.  It's already got mac and windows clients
 in BETA - and they're currently working on the installer for ubuntu.
 This should be released soon.

 
 Interesting, it it Open Source or Proprietory?
 
 Rob
 
 
 

They are proprietary, but...

- From their site:

Business model

When we say free we mean free. The only thing that will cost you money
is dialling our voice conferencing service, but even that is cheap (its
90% cheaper than BT over the UK for example). We have some cool new
features coming out soon that we'll ask you to pay some money for if you
really want them, but what you are using now will always be free. So enjoy!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 03:42:38PM +, andy wrote:
 
 www.yuuguu.com
 

Looks like you can pick apart the windows version, grab the java jar file 
and run it under linux already..

http://www.yuuguu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=259

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Stage6 shutting down!!!

2008-02-25 Thread Russell Green
Sad news, I was sorta expecting for them to be shutdown soon anyway because
of the content on it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread daniel . lamb
Norman you mean turbocash, which has now got a much nicer looking port
called osfinancials, however neither run on linux(not even in wine)
although they are opensource, I have spent many hours searching for an
alternative to sage and have never found anything suitable, the best I
have found is osfinancials.

Regards,
Daniel


 l'm interested to know whether there is a Linux alternative to Sage.. l
 might be able to get my wife to start using Ubuntu if there's something
 available that will allow her to import customers data properly.

 I asked this question when I first started Ubuntu what now seems years
 ago. So far, I have not come across an equivalent to Sage working on
 Linux. I seem to recall that there was some talk of a software
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread norman

On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 18:59 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Norman you mean turbocash, which has now got a much nicer looking port
 called osfinancials, however neither run on linux(not even in wine)
 although they are opensource, I have spent many hours searching for an
 alternative to sage and have never found anything suitable, the best I
 have found is osfinancials.

Thank you for that piece of information. I taught the use of Sage for
Accounting for several years and wish that there was a Linux answer. I
suppose the strength of Sage is that it has developed over many years.
There was even a version which ran on the old Amstrad 256.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Stage6 shutting down!!!

2008-02-25 Thread Kris Douglas
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Russell Green
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 of the content on it.

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God damnit, I'm watching Star Trek on it right now :(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote Desktop Sharing

2008-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
andy wrote:

 They are proprietary, but...
 
 - From their site:
 
 Business model
 
 When we say free we mean free. The only thing that will cost you money
 is dialling our voice conferencing service, but even that is cheap (its
 90% cheaper than BT over the UK for example). We have some cool new
 features coming out soon that we'll ask you to pay some money for if you
 really want them, but what you are using now will always be free. So enjoy!

So it's free as in beer but not speech.

Hmmm... not sure why I should switch from what I'm using already 
(FreeNX) but looking at the site, I can see it's uses (for one, someone 
who I know who runs Windows, lives in North Wales and wants remote 
support but doesn't know how to send an e-mail, let alone open ports on 
a router's firewall!)

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[ubuntu-uk] Kubuntu Hardy swirly wallpaper - wow!

2008-02-25 Thread alan c
I really like the Hardy (alpha 5) Kubuntu curly swirly wallpaper. 6.06 
(misty bubbles) was not bad, it had a level of subtlety and mystery 
which I appreciated, but since then I have been a bit unhappy with the 
un inspired defaults - which live CD users get.

This Kubuntu alpha 5 has what looks like a fractal series based 
wallpaper. I am a fan of this one!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread Andrew Barber
Does sage maybe work with wine?

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On 25 Feb 2008, at 16:31, Joshua Scotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 14:09 +, David wrote:
 GNU Cash might be what you're looking for: http://www.gnucash.org/

 I haven't personally used it so I can't comment on it, sorry.

 David.

 On 25/02/2008, Andy Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi People

l'm interested to know whether there is a Linux alternative to
Sage.. l
might be able to get my wife to start using Ubuntu if there's
something
available that will allow her to import customers data
properly.

 Hi,

 I'm sorry to say that GNUCash is nowhere near an alternative to Sage.
 It is a very good program and can be used for personal or sole trader
 accounts, but it hasn't been any good for my needs when preparing UK
 Limited Company Accounts.
 As I haven't found anything else suitable for accounts on linux I'm
 still having to dual boot my computer into Sage every time I need to
 work on the accounts :(
 If anybody else can contradict me on this I'd be really pleased, as  
 Sage
 is the only windows program that I can't find a linux alternative for.

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[ubuntu-uk] Half decent Motherboard (With on-board graphics, if not Id need a card included in this), RAM and CPU for 50 quidish?

2008-02-25 Thread James Grabham
Righty ho

With my recent offer of a 17-inch monitor which runs at 1400 x 800 for free
from a mate, I decided Its finally time to cough up some dough, and build
that multimedia PC that Ive wanted to build for ages.

I found a great desktop case for 24 pounds.  Awesome.  Ill order it on the
1st (when I get the first lot of money for this XD)
I already said Ive got a monitor.

Now I have about 50 quid to get the insides...

I was thinking 1.8GHz with 512MB RAM and geforce 5ish...
Any Ideas.

Ebays the obvious option, but anywhere else?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Half decent Motherboard (With on-board graphics, if not Id need a card included in this), RAM and CPU for 50 quidish?

2008-02-25 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:08:49PM -0800, James Grabham wrote:
 I was thinking 1.8GHz with 512MB RAM and geforce 5ish...
 Any Ideas.
 
 Ebays the obvious option, but anywhere else?

Novatech have some bundle deals but they're out of your price range.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/bundles.html?price=1

Worth a look if you can scrounge more cash :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread Joshua Scotton

On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 19:23 +, Andrew Barber wrote:
 Does sage maybe work with wine?
Probably, but do you really want to trust your financial data to what
would be an emulated (hence buggy, as most wine emulated programs do not
work perfectly) and completely unsupported and non-guaranteed program?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Half decent Motherboard (With on-board graphics, if not Id need a card included in this), RAM and CPU for 50 quidish?

2008-02-25 Thread James Grabham
Haha, the cheapest one on there was the same spec as my main PC!!

And 1.4GHz would probs do btw...

Oh, and the board has to be mATX to fit the case. =[

On 2/25/08, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:08:49PM -0800, James Grabham wrote:
  I was thinking 1.8GHz with 512MB RAM and geforce 5ish...
  Any Ideas.
 
  Ebays the obvious option, but anywhere else?


 Novatech have some bundle deals but they're out of your price range.

 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/bundles.html?price=1

 Worth a look if you can scrounge more cash :)

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread James Tait
Hi Joshua,

Joshua Scotton wrote:
 I'm sorry to say that GNUCash is nowhere near an alternative to Sage. 
 It is a very good program and can be used for personal or sole trader
 accounts, but it hasn't been any good for my needs when preparing UK
 Limited Company Accounts.
 As I haven't found anything else suitable for accounts on linux I'm
 still having to dual boot my computer into Sage every time I need to
 work on the accounts :(

Have you looked at LedgerSMB[1] at all?  I have to admit that the whole
business of accounting is something of a black art to me, so I wouldn't
know a good accounting package if it slapped me in the face with a
purchase ledger, but many years ago I started a project to create just
such a package to help my wife keep track of her business accounts in
the hope that there would be other people who knew more about accounting
and wanted to scratch that itch.  That didn't really work out for me,
but LedgerSMB (and the project it forked from, SQL-Ledger [2]) looks to
have developed into the project I'd hoped to create.

HTH,

JT

[1] http://www.ledgersmb.org/
[2] http://www.sql-ledger.com/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Half decent Motherboard (With on-board graphics, if not Id need a card included in this), RAM and CPU for 50 quidish?

2008-02-25 Thread James Grabham
WOW

Small desktop case (inc PSU)
AM2 motherboard (Nforce, with geforce 6100 (Which I know is a great setup)
Sempron - 2Ghz
512MB RAM
inc del and vat

85 quidish

I maight wait a few weeks and do this, esspecially since then when I upgrade
my main pc, I can shove my Athlon X2 in this

Thanks!!!


On 2/25/08, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:25 PM, James Grabham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Haha, the cheapest one on there was the same spec as my main PC!!
 
  And 1.4GHz would probs do btw...
 
  Oh, and the board has to be mATX to fit the case. =[
 
 
  On 2/25/08, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:08:49PM -0800, James Grabham wrote:
I was thinking 1.8GHz with 512MB RAM and geforce 5ish...
Any Ideas.
   
Ebays the obvious option, but anywhere else?
  
  
   Novatech have some bundle deals but they're out of your price range.
  
   http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/bundles.html?price=1
  
   Worth a look if you can scrounge more cash :)
  
   Cheers,
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 have a poke around on Aria, might be able to hook a bargain with a gb
 of ram for 11 quid, a motherboard for 25 and some other bits and
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Half decent Motherboard (With on-board graphics, if not Id need a card included in this), RAM and CPU for 50 quidish?

2008-02-25 Thread Kris Douglas
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:54 PM, James Grabham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WOW

 Small desktop case (inc PSU)
 AM2 motherboard (Nforce, with geforce 6100 (Which I know is a great setup)
 Sempron - 2Ghz
 512MB RAM
 inc del and vat

 85 quidish

 I maight wait a few weeks and do this, esspecially since then when I upgrade
 my main pc, I can shove my Athlon X2 in this

 Thanks!!!




 On 2/25/08, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:25 PM, James Grabham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Haha, the cheapest one on there was the same spec as my main PC!!
  
   And 1.4GHz would probs do btw...
  
   Oh, and the board has to be mATX to fit the case. =[
  
  
   On 2/25/08, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:08:49PM -0800, James Grabham wrote:
 I was thinking 1.8GHz with 512MB RAM and geforce 5ish...
 Any Ideas.

 Ebays the obvious option, but anywhere else?
   
   
Novatech have some bundle deals but they're out of your price range.
   
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/bundles.html?price=1
   
Worth a look if you can scrounge more cash :)
   
Cheers,
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  have a poke around on Aria, might be able to hook a bargain with a gb
  of ram for 11 quid, a motherboard for 25 and some other bits and
  bobs..
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?

2008-02-25 Thread Tom Bamford
On 25/02/2008, Joshua Scotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 19:23 +, Andrew Barber wrote:
  Does sage maybe work with wine?

 Probably, but do you really want to trust your financial data to what
 would be an emulated (hence buggy, as most wine emulated programs do not
 work perfectly) and completely unsupported and non-guaranteed program?


 Josh


I've got Sage Line 50 to work on top of wine, but it's not ideal as it just
isn't as responsive as on Windows, and as you say many are reluctant to rely
on it. The installer doesn't work but you can scrape an installed copy from
a Windows machine. I really know very little about business accounting but
I'd love to see a Linux alternative to Sage; it's one of the few small
business apps stopping many companies making the big switch.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Half decent Motherboard (With on-board graphics, if not Id need a card included in this), RAM and CPU for 50 quidish?

2008-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
James Grabham wrote:
 Righty ho
 
 With my recent offer of a 17-inch monitor which runs at 1400 x 800 for 
 free from a mate, I decided Its finally time to cough up some dough, and 
 build that multimedia PC that Ive wanted to build for ages.
 
 I found a great desktop case for 24 pounds.  Awesome.  Ill order it on 
 the 1st (when I get the first lot of money for this XD)
 I already said Ive got a monitor.
 
 Now I have about 50 quid to get the insides...
 
 I was thinking 1.8GHz with 512MB RAM and geforce 5ish...
 Any Ideas.
 
 Ebays the obvious option, but anywhere else?
 

What CPU are you looking at?  AMD or Intel?

You can get some fairly reasonable AMD boards from about £30 with dual 
core Athlon X2's starting at about £40.

Or on the Intel side, the MSI P35-Neo2 board is pretty good and comes in 
around £50 (I have the P35-Neo2 FSIR with heatpipes on it which I think 
was about £60 and it will support up to the latest quad core CPUs 
(although saying that, when it comes to upgrading, sods law Intel will 
have brought out their new line of CPUs on a different socket).

Memory for either board would be DDR2 which is dirt cheap at the moment, 
I think you're looking at about £10 per gig (buy the memory in matched 
pair kits, that way you know they'll work in dual channel mode).

You should be able to pickup a cheapo Geforce 5 series or 7 series for 
about £25.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Half decent Motherboard (With on-board graphics, if not Id need a card included in this), RAM and CPU for 50 quidish?

2008-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
James Grabham wrote:
 Haha, the cheapest one on there was the same spec as my main PC!!
 
 And 1.4GHz would probs do btw...
 
 Oh, and the board has to be mATX to fit the case. =[


How about this board at £28.28 from eBuyer.com

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126138


This CPU at £21.99 also from eBuyer.com (for about £3 less you could get 
a slower Sempron, or for about £7 more, a dual core Athlon X2)

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/133379

This memory at £16.27 (it's 2 x 512MB DIMMs but not much difference to 2 
x 256MB)

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/91126

Does the case come with a PSU?

If not... this might do the job (it's cheap and probably noisy, but 
wouldn't stretch your budget) at £5.99

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/20083

Oh and you'd need a CPU fan (cheap one for £3.99)...

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116047

Comes in at about £26 over budget.

Otherwise, you might be worth trying eBay for second hand components.

Rob

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