Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast live tonight

2011-03-15 Thread Liam Wilson
Cool! What time will you be going live at? I'll try and tune in :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nintendo Wifi USB Connector (Ralink rt2500) woes

2011-01-15 Thread Liam Wilson
Well I managed ti fix it by turning the router off then on again, that
worked somehow, but yeah, they are all runing 10.10. Thanks for the
reply though, DaveG! :)

On 13 January 2011 23:53,  da...@boavon.plus.com wrote:
 Hi all;

 I have a Desktop PC here running Ubuntu 10.10, and I'm trying to
 connect to my Wireless internet connection through a Nintendo Wifi USB
 connector (A re-branded Buffalo/Ralink rt2500 chipset). I know you can
 connect to wireless networks with it, because I've given it to other
 people to use as one, and they've done it just fine.

 When I plug it into my desktop and turn it on, I click on the network
 icon in the panel, and I can see all of the available wireless
 networks, so I click on mine and i get the whole enter the password
 stuff. Then, when it attempts to connect to the network, the icon gets
 to the '2nd stage' (Where instead of going up and down, it goes just
 up), and then disconnects.

 Any idea what this could be so I can at least try to fix it? I've
 searched on google and such, and there doesn't seem to be this
 problem...

 P.s: I've also tried the connector in other Ubuntu-powered PC's, and
 get the same result...

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 You dont say whether every instance of your trying is using the same
 update of Ubuntu - 10.10 but I'm guessing it may be.
 It may be worth a shot disabling the current network manager and trying
 wicd insead.  I have just found it more accepting to various networks,
 connectors and routers.  You dont have a lot to lose by trying.

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[ubuntu-uk] Nintendo Wifi USB Connector (Ralink rt2500) woes

2011-01-12 Thread Liam Wilson
Hi all;

I have a Desktop PC here running Ubuntu 10.10, and I'm trying to
connect to my Wireless internet connection through a Nintendo Wifi USB
connector (A re-branded Buffalo/Ralink rt2500 chipset). I know you can
connect to wireless networks with it, because I've given it to other
people to use as one, and they've done it just fine.

When I plug it into my desktop and turn it on, I click on the network
icon in the panel, and I can see all of the available wireless
networks, so I click on mine and i get the whole enter the password
stuff. Then, when it attempts to connect to the network, the icon gets
to the '2nd stage' (Where instead of going up and down, it goes just
up), and then disconnects.

Any idea what this could be so I can at least try to fix it? I've
searched on google and such, and there doesn't seem to be this
problem...

P.s: I've also tried the connector in other Ubuntu-powered PC's, and
get the same result...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Streaming Audio - Cross-Platform

2010-09-20 Thread Liam Wilson
On 20 September 2010 22:14, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:
 On 20/09/10 21:51, Daniel Case wrote:
 I'm not quite sure where this should be asked as it is a cross-platform
 thing. I am fed up of listening to my (Windows XP) gaming computer
 through headphones so I want to get it hooked to the stereo.

 Rather than use a heck of a lot of wire, I can sit my Ubuntu 9.10
 netbook on top of the stereo and stream the audio across WiFi. So,
 ideally what I am after is something to capture the outgoing audio on
 the Windows computer, stream it across the wifi to the Ubuntu netbook
 and finally play it through the speakers.

 I will of course need it to be cross-platform too, does anybody have any
 ideas?

 Daniel


 You could try VLC, it should be able to take the feed from the Stereo
 Mix on Windows, encode it in MP3 format (or whatever) and then stream it
 over the network.

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I know you USED to be able to do this with iTunes and rhythmbox, if
you have home sharing or whatever, but i'm not too sure if this still
works, you may or may not need an iTunes account to make it work now.

Another solution (One that I'm 99% sure works) is using Limewire  -
putting your music collection in your limewire library, should then
show up in rhythmbox.

This is for music though, if your looking for in-game audio, I'm not
too sure there, sorry! :)

Liam

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gwibber account window spontaneously opening

2010-09-12 Thread Liam Wilson
On 11 September 2010 12:09, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10 September 2010 12:08, pmgazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
 On 10.04 Gwibber has suddenly started opening the add account window
 spontaneously whether Gwibber is running or not. Anyone else getting this?

 I am getting this as well; I don't know why, but it is extremely
 annoying. Just started late this week.

 I even tried ensuring all my account info was up to date and current,
 so it didn't need to ask, but it didn't help.

 FWIW, I am on Mint 9, a respin of Ubuntu, not the main thing.

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I also had this problem, and I think it's caused by twitter's switch
to oAuth. I fixed mine by deleting the twitter account from Gwibber,
but updating Gwibber may also help.

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[ubuntu-uk] Deleting a file in unity

2010-09-03 Thread Liam Wilson
Hi all;

After installing Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.10 beta on my netbook last
night, I've found it impossible to delete files using the new file
manager (By clicking the file icon in the launcher). I've tried right
clicking, dragging it to the trash, pressing DEL, even the key
betweenn altGR and CTRL, nothing!

You can't even open nautilus from the application menu, but instead
have to open the trash (which opens in nautilus) before navigating to
the file and deleting it the conventional way.

While this isn't at all difficult, it's just inconvenient, and I'd
much rather do it via the way that unity handles files in that shell
thing rather than taking the long way round.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Vote Results!

2010-08-31 Thread Liam Wilson
On 31 August 2010 14:44, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 31 August 2010 12:24, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com 
 wrote:
 There were 85 voters and the results in order of the options are:
 [...]
 Making this the most popular logo option:
 http://pollka.libertus.co.uk/pics/full/logo14.svg (don't worry about the
 14 in the URL, that means nothing)

 There is something odd going on here, when I open the above link
 (Firefox 3.6.8 in Ubuntu) it shows a different font to that on the
 original vote page (http://pollka.libertus.co.uk/), yet the image on
 that page is the same url as the one above.  Presumably something to
 do with fonts available on the voting page.  Is there a definitive
 image somewhere that looks the same however it is accessed?  I am not
 sure what we voted for now.

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I also get this error, I think it's something to do with the fact that
it's saved as an SVG and that the new Ubuntu font isn't installed on
Lucid. Must be a fallback font or something.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-05 Thread Liam Wilson
Just my tuppence;

If the podcast team have decided on a (quite frankly, awesome) design, then
would it not be a good idea to make the Ubuntu-UK website coherent with
that?
I mean, currently, the Podcast is run by members of the UK team, and is
featured prominently on the first page of the website, but when it is
clicked on, it brings you to a completely different website, and to me,
personally, it just feels a bit messy to have 2
completely different designs.

Of course, there will be elements of the website that will change, such as
the colour scheme, and content, etc, but elements such as the navigation
buttons and general layout of pages should, in my opinion, stay the same.

But that's just my thoughts.

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[ubuntu-uk] Meego and Ubuntu

2010-05-26 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all;

As some of you may know, Meego for Netbooks was released today (
http://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook) and I thinking about
dual-booting it with UNE, but was wondering if anyone else has tried it yet,
and if you have, how is it?


I'm downloading it as I type

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Call for help - ISO testing

2010-05-15 Thread Liam Wilson
On 14 May 2010 19:53, Philip Billington pbilling...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 Happy to help, add me to the list.

 - Phil

 On 13 May 2010 09:15, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm sat here at the Ubuntu Developer Summit in Brussels and wanted to
 let people know about something and ask for volunteers to help.

 During the Lucid development cycle (ending with the Lucid release) the
 Italian LoCo Team have been doing some great work contributing to
 Ubuntu and I wanted to bring that to the UK.

 The task is to test the Ubuntu ISO (CD) images at certain points
 through the cycle. This is a surprisingly easy thing to do, and with a
 few volunteers and bit of co-ordination it's possible to test all the
 various flavours and architectures and report bugs to the QA team.

 What the Italian LoCo have done is co-ordinate the effort to ensure a
 spread of testers across Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and other flavours,
 and 32-bit and 64-bit architectures. There's no single person who has
 to test every single ISO, and some people only test one of them. There
 are points in the cycle (Alpha/Beta releases for example) where more
 effort is needed, so having multiple people testing the same ISO gives
 some redundancy as well as ensuring the images are well tested.

 What you'd need is a computer and a relatively decent internet
 connection which you could use to download one or more ISO images.

 Anyone fancy helping out with this? If so just say so here, and we can
 work out the details when I get back from UDS.

 Cheers,
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I too will be more than happy to help out. +1 from me!


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[ubuntu-uk] Running .exe's off a CD?

2010-05-05 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey everyone,
I just bought a couple of windows games on CD, and I installed wine and
such, but I can't actually execute them.
On double clicking them, I get the message:

The file '/media/RCT2/Setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was
downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.
 For more details, read about the executable bit.

Thing is, I can't mark it as executable, as it's on a CD, so now, 2 things:

1) Why am I being blocked from running .exe's on my computer?
2) How do I work around this?

Thanks greatly in advance:
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running .exe's off a CD?

2010-05-05 Thread Liam Wilson
On 5 May 2010 21:38, Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5 May 2010 21:33, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
  On 5 May 2010 21:30, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thing is, I can't mark it as executable, as it's on a CD, so now, 2
 things:
  1) Why am I being blocked from running .exe's on my computer?
 
  So you dont accidentally run virus.exe. It makes it more of an
  intentional thing to execute the program.
 

I didn't think virus.exe would have much effect on an Ubuntu PC,
regardless of whether it was using Wine or not, but thanks for pointing that
out anyway. :)

  2) How do I work around this?
 
  Copy the contents to the hard disk, run it from there?
 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 

 You could also run it from a terminal with e.g.
 $ cd /media/CDROMLABEL
 $ wine ./game.exe

 Yeah, that worked great! Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building .deb packages

2010-02-10 Thread Liam Wilson
Anton,

 Out of curiosity, can I ask why it's worse to package software in a .deb
file in the long run?

Liam

On 10 February 2010 20:43, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote:

 On 10 February 2010 17:23, Mark Fraser ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk
 wrote:
  I would like to start compiling some programs and putting them up on my
 PPA
  starting with KRepton http://www.keelhaul.me.uk/krepton.
 
  Has anyone got any advice other than following
  www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-start.en.html ? I have
 compiled
  software before and also produced a few .deb packages, but none that I
 could
  distribute.

 The new maintainers guide you have already found is the main doc I
 would suggest you start with. The Debian policy is also very helpful
 as it explains every detail you could need to know (hopefully) but it
 is more of a reference and not a tutorial.

 It really is worth learning to build the packages as source packages
 and build them with dpkg-buildpackage/ppa/etc (I say this because I
 know a lot of people think its just easier to compile the code and
 build a .deb with dpkg-deb, but it really works out much worse in the
 long run)

 Good luck with it! It really isn't as hard as it seems at first!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viral Videos - Who's actually interested?....Just another thought....

2010-02-03 Thread Liam Wilson
That's also one of the aims of the ubuntu viral videos project - to give
help to the new users.

Regards

Liam

On 3 February 2010 10:55, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 10:24 +, Johnathon Tinsley wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  John Matthews wrote:
   I am getting excited and worked up with the rest of you about the
   impending rush on  advertising Ubuntu to get more people to use it,
 plus
   the courses that are being set up, but I seem to remember getting my
   little netbook, with Linux Lite on it, that was sold by one of the
 large
   electronics companies on the high street. The guy there said to me, you
   know you will bring it back dont you. Everybody else has, they cant
   connect to their internet. I heard a lot about Linux computers being
   taken back because people couldnt work out how to use them, the  shops
   didnt even ask what was up in the end, they just  credited them.  That
   was last year.
  
   Has anybody thought about how they are going to make it so that it can
   be easier to set the machine up, when its first opened? Plus, has
   anybody thought, who and how if there is an increase in Linux users, a
   help format is going to be set up, so that people can get immediate
   help, if needed, because it will be immediate help that people will
   want, not sometime later, but there and then, they wont wait, and its
 no
   good saying, 'those of us who are on these forums and e-mail groups
 have
   other jobs and we do this for nothing, that wont be good enough'.
 people
   wont accept that. You could be doing Ubuntu a world of good, with all
   this new advertising and enthusiasm, but you could ruin it for good, if
   there is no sufficient help after sales.
  
   Just a thought.
  
 
  Should we create a helper program, with a launcher on the desktop, (or
  favourites list in UNR) which offers to guide users through the basics
  of getting their system online, and then getting help from the ubuntu
  community?
 
  It would have to be quite comprehensive to deal with the UK standard
  types of internet connectivity, wifi keys, ethernet cable, adsl modem,
 etc..

 What about contributing to the Ubuntu manual project [1] to help it make
 it into Lucid?

 There's also an interview of Ben Humphrey who is behind this initiative
 in the latest newsletter [2]

 [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual
 [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue178

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-02 Thread Liam Wilson
Well obviously Youtube, metacafe, dailymotion are some good places to start.



On 1 February 2010 23:38, Craig Peden cpe...@cogigo.com wrote:

 Right, I think that someone needs to get down a list of places we can
 upload to.

 On 1 Feb 2010, at 21:53, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

  On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:41:01 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
  
  wrote:
 
  Indeed, that's what I think, the only cost would be putting the
  advert(s)
  together.
 
  Who actually wants to make this happen?
 
  Me
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[ubuntu-uk] Viral Videos - Who's actually interested?

2010-02-02 Thread Liam Wilson
Right, so it seems that creating a 'Viral Videos' (I.e; short videos that
can be posted on the bew. similar to the Wi project seems to be a better
option to market Ubuntu than creating a TV ad for a number of reasons;

   1. It's cheaper - no cost of getting it on the air
   2. Easier to spread - just send a link to friends/family, etc
   3. More involvement - the project can go on for a longer time period, and
   people from other countries can contribute, too.
   4. It'll last longer - Any videos made will stay online for as long as
   the video hosting sites are up.

Before this project actually gets to a head, I'd just like to know who would
definitely be interested in contributing. And it wouldn't just be making
videos, remember, we need people to manage any web hosting channels we have,
people to create themes and or/artwork for the channels, and to be possibly
be included in the videos, people to keep the wiki updated, poeple to
suggest ideas that can be used in videos, there are PLENTY of ways to
contribute, so just because you can't make a video, doesn't mean there won't
be something for you to do.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viral Videos - Who's actually interested?

2010-02-02 Thread Liam Wilson
Thank you Johnathon. I'm working on the wiki as we speak, should be done
soon!

Liam

On 2 February 2010 22:23, Johnathon Tinsley kir...@kirrus.co.uk wrote:


 - Ron Rhodes owdronrho...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

  Alan Pope wrote:
   On 2 February 2010 16:12, Harry Rickards ha...@linux.com wrote:
  
   I'd be interested in helping wherever I can. Perhaps we should have
  a
   seperate mailing list to discuss this on?
  
  
  
   Why not use the resources we have. There is a marketing list and a
   marketing irc channel.
  
   Cheers,
   Al.
  
  
  They are not listening to you Alan, they are on cloud 9 with their pie
 
  in the sky plans repeating things and getting nowhere
 


 ... In fact, a mail has already gone out to those who said they were
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Liam Wilson
Okay, I've been in touch with the marketing team, and they've said that if
we wanted to do this, we'd have to look at the costs of producing and
marketing the advert, were there to be one. It was also suggested that we
should consider not using ITV as the main medium for promoting, but instead
use E4 or another cable channel, as it's cheaper.

But of course, anther suggested getting commercial backing to fund it, but
is that really viable.I think the only thing that's getting in the way here,
is the funding of the advert ere we to get it on the air.

I think an option we should consider is putting it on the internet; i.e;
Youtube. I think it would get a lot more watches there, and would cost a
heck less than airing it, and were it to be successful, perhaps we could
create more. sort of like microsoft's
effortshttp://www.youtube.com/user/WindowsVideos
Sort of like what we have with the screencasts channel, too. But that's just
my suggestion...

Liam

On 1 February 2010 10:15, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 23:32 +, Alan Pope wrote:
  On 31 January 2010 23:13, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
   IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to
 thin=
 k
   about actual content first.
 =20
  I disagree. The very first thing is to look at what the goal is. Only
  once you know the goal, target audience, approach, method of delivery
  and so on can you begin to look at content. I'm personally of the
  opinion that now is not the time to create a TV advert, and that the
  money/time could be better spent on other things, but its not my place
  to tell people what to do.

 I agree completely that the first thing is to know the goal. We often
 get ahead of ourselves in the community, which is not necessarily a bad
 thing but we need to know what we want first before we can begin to plan
 how to deliver it.

 I disagree that it's not the time to advertise on TV. I've been
 championing the idea of a TV advert for Ubuntu for a long time but
 alongside another campaign of something like offering Ubuntu for sale in
 mainstream areas e.g. PC World (not some half-assed effort like Dell).

 The major problems Ubuntu face with adoption are obscurity and Microsoft
 having a stranglehold on the pre-install market. Both need to be
 attacked at once if any inroads are to be made, a TV advert on it's own
 may increase visibility but to what end? The audience it would target
 are casual computer users who are very unlikely to go and download an
 ISO and reload their computer off the strength of an ad. If they are
 then able to go to PC World and buy the 'cheap Mac' after being
 impressed with the stuff on the advert it has a lot more impact. Getting
 someone like DSG on-side is a must and Canonical need to do a bit of a
 deal with the devil with this key area.

 Regarding the advert content, it's a case of following Apple's lead with
 their cool iPhone ads. Show how the desktop is silky smooth with desktop
 effects, show how there's a built-in Office suite with full MS Office
 compatibility, show how it's immune to viruses and it's the most secure
 Operating System on the planet. Champion all of it's strengths without
 going in any way geeky (nothing about community driven development etc.)
 The strength of the software can stand on it's own without having to
 refer to traditional geekdom advantages.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-02-01 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey Rob;

The screenshots were taken on my Dell Mimi at about 1024x600, so scaling
them up may not cause too much disorientation.

As for what you said about the logo bieng too dark, you were right. I
printed one off and the logo is too dark on the background. As for the
screenshots, they look fine on print.

Liam

On 31 January 2010 15:51, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 On 31/01/2010 15:17, Liam Wilson wrote:
  Hey Rob, I used GIMP, and got the ubuntu and canonical logos off the
  internet, and took the screenshots myself.
 
  You can download all the images and things i used here:
 
  http://mehall.co.cc/Poster.tar.gz
 
  As for scaling it up to A3, it could probably be done, albeit with a
  loss of quality, but you're welcome to try :D
 
  It's also probably worth noting that if you are going to use a border
  printer, to try keep all the borders around the image the same size,
  so it doesn't become disoriented.
 
  Liam.

 Cool I'll have a look when I have time.  I've found in the past when
 doing things like this, if you use Inkscape it does scale up fairly
 well, well if you use SVG images such as the logo and create the text in
 Inkscape.  Screenshots don't scale up as well unless they're high
 resolution to start with, but I'd guess if you're using images with a
 resolution of say 1024x768 and scaling them down to fit then they'd
 probably be okay scaling up to A3 size too, at least if the images are
 going to be printed at a small size.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Liam Wilson
Well, say instead of a TV advert, we contributed our ideas to the Viral
Video's project or something similar to make a channel on youtube, or even
both, if we're lucky, we could touch on subjects such as Ubuntu hour, and
ways to help improve your first time experience with Ubuntu.

And I guess we could at least try contacting canonical or dell, or some
other company, to see what response we get.

On 1 February 2010 12:38, etali et...@myth-games.com wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: Johnathon Tinsley kir...@kirrus.co.uk

  Before we try to get new users into Ubuntu, shouldn't we try to retain
  the people flicking in and out of Ubuntu now?
 
  There was discussion about supporting new users, with remote techy
  support. Can we catch those who post This is too hard, I'm going back
  to windows and try to retain more of them with a high-quality community
  support mechanism?
 

 I agree.

 I think the people who try Ubuntu (or Linux in general), have problems with
 it, and then rant about it to their friends have a lot of power in terms of
 persuading people to avoid Ubuntu.

 Advertising to new people will only work if a)those people haven't already
 heard bad things, and b)we can keep those people as users once they decide
 to download + install it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Liam Wilson
Indeed, that's what I think, the only cost would be putting the advert(s)
together.

Who actually wants to make this happen?

On 1 February 2010 17:09, Craig Peden cpe...@cogigo.com wrote:

 If you could get the ad posted on all major video uploading sites, and
 other media sharing sites as well as blogs and such. You could easily have
 yourself a relatively cheap ad campaign.

 On 1 Feb 2010, at 12:22, Liam Wilson wrote:

 Okay, I've been in touch with the marketing team, and they've said that if
 we wanted to do this, we'd have to look at the costs of producing and
 marketing the advert, were there to be one. It was also suggested that we
 should consider not using ITV as the main medium for promoting, but instead
 use E4 or another cable channel, as it's cheaper.

 But of course, anther suggested getting commercial backing to fund it, but
 is that really viable.I think the only thing that's getting in the way here,
 is the funding of the advert ere we to get it on the air.

 I think an option we should consider is putting it on the internet; i.e;
 Youtube. I think it would get a lot more watches there, and would cost a
 heck less than airing it, and were it to be successful, perhaps we could
 create more. sort of like microsoft's 
 effortshttp://www.youtube.com/user/WindowsVideos
 Sort of like what we have with the screencasts channel, too. But that's
 just my suggestion...

 Liam

 On 1 February 2010 10:15, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 23:32 +, Alan Pope wrote:
  On 31 January 2010 23:13, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
   IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to
 thin=
 k
   about actual content first.
 =20
  I disagree. The very first thing is to look at what the goal is. Only
  once you know the goal, target audience, approach, method of delivery
  and so on can you begin to look at content. I'm personally of the
  opinion that now is not the time to create a TV advert, and that the
  money/time could be better spent on other things, but its not my place
  to tell people what to do.

 I agree completely that the first thing is to know the goal. We often
 get ahead of ourselves in the community, which is not necessarily a bad
 thing but we need to know what we want first before we can begin to plan
 how to deliver it.

 I disagree that it's not the time to advertise on TV. I've been
 championing the idea of a TV advert for Ubuntu for a long time but
 alongside another campaign of something like offering Ubuntu for sale in
 mainstream areas e.g. PC World (not some half-assed effort like Dell).

 The major problems Ubuntu face with adoption are obscurity and Microsoft
 having a stranglehold on the pre-install market. Both need to be
 attacked at once if any inroads are to be made, a TV advert on it's own
 may increase visibility but to what end? The audience it would target
 are casual computer users who are very unlikely to go and download an
 ISO and reload their computer off the strength of an ad. If they are
 then able to go to PC World and buy the 'cheap Mac' after being
 impressed with the stuff on the advert it has a lot more impact. Getting
 someone like DSG on-side is a must and Canonical need to do a bit of a
 deal with the devil with this key area.

 Regarding the advert content, it's a case of following Apple's lead with
 their cool iPhone ads. Show how the desktop is silky smooth with desktop
 effects, show how there's a built-in Office suite with full MS Office
 compatibility, show how it's immune to viruses and it's the most secure
 Operating System on the planet. Champion all of it's strengths without
 going in any way geeky (nothing about community driven development etc.)
 The strength of the software can stand on it's own without having to
 refer to traditional geekdom advantages.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey everyone, I finished the poster, and I've put it on my Ubuntu one, as I
can't find anywhere else that I can upload it to, so let me know if you want
it, and I'll share it with you.

Liam.

On 30 January 2010 23:44, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aye, t'is the default background from 9.04; I like it because it's simple,
 and the stripes give it a feeling of elegance, I think! :)


 On 30 January 2010 23:35, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:23:59 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  aah, so I'll have to put margins on it before its printed. But i think
  you
  can do that on the CUPS dialogue on printing preferences.
 
 There are various ways round it,such as testing the colour laser printer
 at work :)

  anyway, here's what I've done so far:
 
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx328km8DI1qai2mzo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264980138Signature=ymEVuWzOps8kjZmcllIFbXdq6m8%3D
 
 I do like that orangey/brown colour, that’s what attracted me to Ubuntu in
 the first place.  So far so good.

  On 30 January 2010 23:18, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:08:36 -, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net
 wrote:
 
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Liam Wilson wrote:
   Yeah, working on A4 gives me more space to work on than the original
   resolution, so I'll work on A4. Should look good when it's finished.
  (I
   hope!)
  
   Liam
  
  
   At least on A4 we can all print it, that way the poster should reach
   more people.
  
   Don't forget to put the ubuntu website address on it :)
  
  Unless you’ve got a HP printer like mine that cant print a full A4
 image
  as it requires margins top and bottom where it grips the paper.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Michael;
I can't connect to U1 for whatever reason, so I'll email you the .tar.gz if
that's alright.

Liam

On 31 January 2010 11:43, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

  Liam,

 share me the file and I'll up it to my VPS, with a link from my frontpage (
 http://mehall.co.cc ) meaning people can just share that link to access
 it.

 - Michael


 On 31/01/2010 11:41, Liam Wilson wrote:

 Hey everyone, I finished the poster, and I've put it on my Ubuntu one, as I
 can't find anywhere else that I can upload it to, so let me know if you want
 it, and I'll share it with you.

 Liam.

 On 30 January 2010 23:44, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aye, t'is the default background from 9.04; I like it because it's simple,
 and the stripes give it a feeling of elegance, I think! :)


 On 30 January 2010 23:35, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:23:59 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  aah, so I'll have to put margins on it before its printed. But i think
  you
  can do that on the CUPS dialogue on printing preferences.
 
  There are various ways round it,such as testing the colour laser printer
 at work :)

  anyway, here's what I've done so far:
 
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx328km8DI1qai2mzo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264980138Signature=ymEVuWzOps8kjZmcllIFbXdq6m8%3D
 
  I do like that orangey/brown colour, that’s what attracted me to Ubuntu
 in
 the first place.  So far so good.

  On 30 January 2010 23:18, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:08:36 -, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net
 wrote:
 
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Liam Wilson wrote:
   Yeah, working on A4 gives me more space to work on than the
 original
   resolution, so I'll work on A4. Should look good when it's
 finished.
  (I
   hope!)
  
   Liam
  
  
   At least on A4 we can all print it, that way the poster should reach
   more people.
  
   Don't forget to put the ubuntu website address on it :)
  
  Unless you’ve got a HP printer like mine that cant print a full A4
 image
  as it requires margins top and bottom where it grips the paper.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Sent!

Perhaps there could be a way to put this up on the Ubuntu UK wiki, either as
a project, or just he image, that the team and other Ubuntu users can
download to spam their local areas with?

Liam

On 31 January 2010 12:12, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

  That's fine. I'm also having U1 issues atm.


 On 31/01/2010 12:10, Liam Wilson wrote:

 Michael;
 I can't connect to U1 for whatever reason, so I'll email you the .tar.gz if
 that's alright.

 Liam

 On 31 January 2010 11:43, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

  Liam,

 share me the file and I'll up it to my VPS, with a link from my frontpage
 ( http://mehall.co.cc ) meaning people can just share that link to access
 it.

 - Michael


 On 31/01/2010 11:41, Liam Wilson wrote:

 Hey everyone, I finished the poster, and I've put it on my Ubuntu one, as
 I can't find anywhere else that I can upload it to, so let me know if you
 want it, and I'll share it with you.

 Liam.

 On 30 January 2010 23:44, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aye, t'is the default background from 9.04; I like it because it's
 simple, and the stripes give it a feeling of elegance, I think! :)


 On 30 January 2010 23:35, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:23:59 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:

  aah, so I'll have to put margins on it before its printed. But i think
  you
  can do that on the CUPS dialogue on printing preferences.
 
  There are various ways round it,such as testing the colour laser
 printer
 at work :)

  anyway, here's what I've done so far:
 
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx328km8DI1qai2mzo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264980138Signature=ymEVuWzOps8kjZmcllIFbXdq6m8%3D
 
  I do like that orangey/brown colour, that’s what attracted me to Ubuntu
 in
 the first place.  So far so good.

  On 30 January 2010 23:18, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:08:36 -, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net
 wrote:
 
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Liam Wilson wrote:
   Yeah, working on A4 gives me more space to work on than the
 original
   resolution, so I'll work on A4. Should look good when it's
 finished.
  (I
   hope!)
  
   Liam
  
  
   At least on A4 we can all print it, that way the poster should
 reach
   more people.
  
   Don't forget to put the ubuntu website address on it :)
  
  Unless you’ve got a HP printer like mine that cant print a full A4
 image
  as it requires margins top and bottom where it grips the paper.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I'm in Liverpool, so I guess we could do a bit of work there.

Yeah, that telly ad sounds like a really good idea! Perhaps we could all
make one video, then show it in all our regions, if that makes any sense...

But how would we go about making the video, like a screencast sort of
progect?

On 31 January 2010 13:23, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 31/01/2010 13:16, CShadowRun wrote:
  Steve wrote:
 
  On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:27:42 -, Liam Wilsonliamwilso...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
 
  Sent!
 
  Perhaps there could be a way to put this up on the Ubuntu UK wiki,
  either as
  a project, or just he image, that the team and other Ubuntu users can
  download to spam their local areas with?
 
  Liam
 
 
 
  Don’t see why not.
 
 
 
 
  As a suggestion (My video editing skills certainly arn't up to par, and
  I'm not exactly rolling in money) we could get a TV advert. Looking at
  this page,
  http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/advertising-on-itv/cost-of-advertising a
  regional advert can cost as little as £30, Granted the £30 is an 11am
  slot on border and only regional, but an adverts an advert. There are
  also total network slots from about £3,829 but I assume that's beyond
  our finances. Maybe other networks offer better deals too. We could even
  possibly target some online tech podcasts (although unless we chose
  carefully we may well be preaching to the choir). Personally I think
  some adverts showing off compiz would be killer for marketing lucid,
  heck it was a compiz video that attracted me to Ubuntu in the first place
 :)
 
 
 I like the ad idea.

 Don't want to be seen to be 'advertising' but if anybody wants anything
 filming, I'm actually a cameraman with my own kit. Anyone in the North
 West/Manchester fancy doing some filming?

 Probably best to talk off-list if so.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Yaaay! Thanks Michael! Please do put it (the poster) around your local
community, as it'll be a great way to introduce people to ubuntu.

On 31 January 2010 14:12, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 31/01/2010 14:01, Steve wrote:
  On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:43:59 -, James Milliganli...@lake54.com
  wrote:
 
 
  On 31/01/2010 13:31, Liam Wilson wrote:
 
  I'm in Liverpool, so I guess we could do a bit of work there.
 
  Yeah, that telly ad sounds like a really good idea! Perhaps we could
  all make one video, then show it in all our regions, if that makes any
  sense...
 
  But how would we go about making the video, like a screencast sort of
  progect?
 
 
snip
 
 
  I guess depending on what sort of quality etc everything was filmed in,
  it could be uploaded 'somewhere', then someone could edit it all
  together, and send the finished product to the person dealing with ITV
  (or whoever).
 
  The theme or look I had in my mind could be a 5-10 second clip showing
  someone using a mockup of Windows (I doubt they'd let us use the real
  one!), and getting annoyed, then the same person perhaps doing the same
  sort of thing with Ubuntu, and just 'happier'. Then the last clip zooms
  out to a square/rectangle of 4 videos, which zoom out to 9 etc etc etc,
  showing the scale of the 'product'. Ends with the logo/background/web
  address etc. If it's regional and the LoCo team have a URL, show that
  too.
 
  Alternatively, we could come at it from a more community-based approach,
  and have a couple of 5-10 second clips showing people use Ubuntu, and
  going along the square 'image' I described above, choosing random ones
  to show 'full size'.
 
  A third idea I've just had is possibly to feature the forum support -
  show someone with 'Windows' calling a helpdesk of some sort, then cut to
  an Ubuntu set-up, where the actor/actress is posting on the forum, and
  'within minutes/seconds' has an answer.
 
  There's loads more ideas, such as adding software - could show someone
  going to 'PC World' (again a mockup), buying expensive software etc etc
  etc, then with Ubuntu it's a simple addition, and free - etc.
 
  I've never actually done adverts before, I'm more of an event
  videographer, but they're not vastly different, certainly when it comes
  to tech.
 
 
  Dibs on director.
 
  ACTION!
 
  CUT!
  :D
 
  Seriously this could be a rather large and, possibly expensive,
  undertaking but well worth considering.
  I have to admit, beyond 'filming' the cat I have no experience or
  knowledge of this sort of thing. I am, howevr, willing to help.
 
 
 If we're taking dibs, I'll be Director of Photography :-)

 Anyway...

 I would agree that certain aspects may be expensive, however, like you
 say it's well worth considering - perhaps a well presented, coordinated
 TV advert to coincide with the launch of the next version could do
 wonders for Linux as a whole. People will 'see' it, and learn more about
 etc - the usual marketing stuff :-)

 In terms of production, if we're doing a coordinated advert, I'd be
 happy to do it for free (the filming, at least). The only cost then
 would be the advertising costs. I'm sure someone would want to edit the
 footage - perhaps we could shoot different 'things', and ask people to
 edit it all together in their own way, the winner gets it put on TV?

 Pretty cool competition!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
As for the TV advert, should we like, have a meeting or something so we can
throw ideas around and such?

Personally, I think it'd be a good idea is the video didn't put other OS'
down, but rather, put Linux/Ubuntu Up, say show easy it is to contribute and
customise Ubuntu, etc. Say, show off a few compiz shots here and there...

On 31 January 2010 14:25, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yaaay! Thanks Michael! Please do put it (the poster) around your local
 community, as it'll be a great way to introduce people to ubuntu.


 On 31 January 2010 14:12, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 31/01/2010 14:01, Steve wrote:
  On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:43:59 -, James Milliganli...@lake54.com
  wrote:
 
 
  On 31/01/2010 13:31, Liam Wilson wrote:
 
  I'm in Liverpool, so I guess we could do a bit of work there.
 
  Yeah, that telly ad sounds like a really good idea! Perhaps we could
  all make one video, then show it in all our regions, if that makes any
  sense...
 
  But how would we go about making the video, like a screencast sort of
  progect?
 
 
snip
 
 
  I guess depending on what sort of quality etc everything was filmed in,
  it could be uploaded 'somewhere', then someone could edit it all
  together, and send the finished product to the person dealing with ITV
  (or whoever).
 
  The theme or look I had in my mind could be a 5-10 second clip showing
  someone using a mockup of Windows (I doubt they'd let us use the real
  one!), and getting annoyed, then the same person perhaps doing the same
  sort of thing with Ubuntu, and just 'happier'. Then the last clip zooms
  out to a square/rectangle of 4 videos, which zoom out to 9 etc etc etc,
  showing the scale of the 'product'. Ends with the logo/background/web
  address etc. If it's regional and the LoCo team have a URL, show that
  too.
 
  Alternatively, we could come at it from a more community-based
 approach,
  and have a couple of 5-10 second clips showing people use Ubuntu, and
  going along the square 'image' I described above, choosing random ones
  to show 'full size'.
 
  A third idea I've just had is possibly to feature the forum support -
  show someone with 'Windows' calling a helpdesk of some sort, then cut
 to
  an Ubuntu set-up, where the actor/actress is posting on the forum, and
  'within minutes/seconds' has an answer.
 
  There's loads more ideas, such as adding software - could show someone
  going to 'PC World' (again a mockup), buying expensive software etc etc
  etc, then with Ubuntu it's a simple addition, and free - etc.
 
  I've never actually done adverts before, I'm more of an event
  videographer, but they're not vastly different, certainly when it comes
  to tech.
 
 
  Dibs on director.
 
  ACTION!
 
  CUT!
  :D
 
  Seriously this could be a rather large and, possibly expensive,
  undertaking but well worth considering.
  I have to admit, beyond 'filming' the cat I have no experience or
  knowledge of this sort of thing. I am, howevr, willing to help.
 
 
 If we're taking dibs, I'll be Director of Photography :-)

 Anyway...

 I would agree that certain aspects may be expensive, however, like you
 say it's well worth considering - perhaps a well presented, coordinated
 TV advert to coincide with the launch of the next version could do
 wonders for Linux as a whole. People will 'see' it, and learn more about
 etc - the usual marketing stuff :-)

 In terms of production, if we're doing a coordinated advert, I'd be
 happy to do it for free (the filming, at least). The only cost then
 would be the advertising costs. I'm sure someone would want to edit the
 footage - perhaps we could shoot different 'things', and ask people to
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx Poster

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
You think?

It was the best i could do without seriously distorting the image, as the
canvas is about 3500x2500 px, and the screenshots (say the password entry
one) were as small as 500x250 when they were taken, and the 1st screenshot,
the desktop, was taken at 1024x900 px, so I had to scale that one down so it
was big enough to still see what was in the picture. I'll try and resize
them and see what they look like then.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, I guess so. I suppose by putting other OS' down, we are in turn,
giving Ubuntu a more positive image. To acheive this I guess we could use
the aforementioned idea of someone bieng on hold and then somone getting an
instant reply on the forums for free.

On 31 January 2010 14:30, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

 Using new thread, but replying to Liam:

 Negative reinforcement is much more effective than positive, ask any
 number of companies, or politicians/election campaigners. Do it right,
 so that you seem to have respect for your opponent, but make yourself
 seem better, and it's very popular (See: Mac vs. PC ads)

 On 31/01/2010 14:28, Steve wrote:
  A new thread to discus a possible TV advert
 
 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I'll do that then. Just gonna see what it looks like with totally-equal
screenshots...

Liam

On 31 January 2010 14:36, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 31 January 2010 12:27, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
  Perhaps there could be a way to put this up on the Ubuntu UK wiki, either
 as
  a project, or just he image, that the team and other Ubuntu users can
  download to spam their local areas with?
 

 It would be better to put it in a central location so that anyone can use
 it.

 There are to commonly used places in the Ubuntu project for this.

 http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing/

 Please consider uploading marketing material sources to spread ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey Rob, I used GIMP, and got the ubuntu and canonical logos off the
internet, and took the screenshots myself.

You can download all the images and things i used here:

http://mehall.co.cc/Poster.tar.gz

As for scaling it up to A3, it could probably be done, albeit with a loss of
quality, but you're welcome to try :D

It's also probably worth noting that if you are going to use a border
printer, to try keep all the borders around the image the same size, so it
doesn't become disoriented.

Liam.



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 On 30/01/2010 23:23, Liam Wilson wrote:
  aah, so I'll have to put margins on it before its printed. But i think
  you can do that on the CUPS dialogue on printing preferences.
 
  anyway, here's what I've done so far:
 
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx328km8DI1qai2mzo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264980138Signature=ymEVuWzOps8kjZmcllIFbXdq6m8%3D
  
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx328km8DI1qai2mzo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264980138Signature=ymEVuWzOps8kjZmcllIFbXdq6m8%3D
 

 I like that too although the Ubuntu logo looks a little dark against the
 browny orange background, I'd say it either could do with maybe a white
 shadow, or change the text to white, possibly with a black shadow (or
 maybe a black slightly transparent shadow).

 I'd also say if you're doing it as a full A4 page, those of us who have
 access to borderless printers can print them out without borders, and
 those of us who don't have borderless printers can probably print it to
 shrink slightly to the page and trim the borders off so it's slightly
 smaller than A4.

 Out of interest, what are you using to create the poster?

 I'm just wondering if it can be scaled up to A3 size?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I think it'd be better to show how ubuntu is cost-effective (i.e; Free). If
someone sees something that works better than what they have, for a lot less
money, then they could possibly be enticed. It could also be noted that
ubuntu is much secure to attacks from viruses and such.

But yeah, the concept of people stuggeling with thier computers and then
showing like a comparison to Ubuntu seems to be a popular one, so why don't
we work on that?

Liam

On 31 January 2010 15:01, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:55:01 -, CShadowRun li...@cshadowrun.com
 wrote:

  Harry Rickards wrote:
  On 31 January 2010 14:50, CShadowRun li...@cshadowrun.com wrote:
  snip
 
  I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's
  alot
  of negative stigma around Chat rooms and Online forums
  unfortunately :(
 
 
  What about someone sending an email to the mailing list?
 
 
  That could work.
  I don't know much on how the mailing lists work, would the user need to
  subscribe before mailing? Or could we have a simple address they could
  email, and then they would be automagically subscribed to their single
  thread. So it would be like a support query.
 
 Anybody got a pet lynx.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
If this is actually going to happen, we need to start thinking of ways how
we can get this video shown to people, whether it be televised, or viral. If
we're going to put our own money or anyone else's money and time into this
we need to make sure that it isn't a waste of it, agreed?

On 31 January 2010 15:23, CShadowRun li...@cshadowrun.com wrote:

 Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
  On 31 January 2010 14:58, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:50:58 -, CShadowRun li...@cshadowrun.com
  wrote:
 
  I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's
 alot
  of negative stigma around Chat rooms and Online forums
 unfortunately
  :(
 
 
  Yes 'Chat Room' = paedophile luring young girls away in the minds of a
 lot
  of people.
 
  --
 
 
  Then they need to be educated.
 
  But seriously, who are these adverts aimed at? If it's a Generally
  Ignorant User/Mum, then forget it. They won't know what an OS is let
  alone how to download, burn a CD, install etc. etc. If it's a
  teen/young adult then there won't be a problem - they use Facebook/IM
  *all the time*.
 
  Oh, the other problem is the name of Lynx. It already has
  product/brand association in the UK. We would have to stay well away
  from it. Ubuntu is OK as a brand (though it's mostly unknown), but
  10.04 is weak as water soup. Ten-oh-four? Ten-point-zero-four? What
  does that mean? (Even Lucid Lynx sounds as geeky as it comes).
 
  If anything you have to associate with a known brand - like Linux.
  Ubuntu Linux. We are Linux? Who else uses Linux? Is it strong enough?
 
  Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what
  I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the
  spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
 
  We are Ubuntu?
 
  So how about a user of another OS sat struggling with their machine by
  themselves, whereas our Ubuntu user looks up and asks the next room
  for help and a random profession walks in and helps (points at the
  screen and says Oh, it's just here), e.g. scientist followed by
  artist etc. etc. They all grab a drink and snack and the kitchen is
  full of a diverse range of people. Ubuntu is a Party!
 
  Next door other user with ear pressed against wall, walks round to
  flat, Guys, could I join in? (in unison) Sure!
 
  What is Ubuntu?
  Ubuntu is... help.
  Ubuntu is... secure.
  Ubuntu is... us.
 
  /end random brainstorm.
 
 
 This is a really cool idea. It could be bolted onto the email idea
 previously. Someone sends an email, and then all the professionals start
 turning up. Hehe.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I suppose the problem we have with creating something like this is, the
general public alrieady KNOW what windows is, a lot don't really know what
Ubuntu, and Linux are. Perhaps if we were to create a TV advert, the main
purpose of it would be to inform people what Ubuntu is.

Perhaps a TV advert would be a good way to do this - 3 whole minutes of
sheer information.
However, where it to come into fruition, we would need funds, and I think
that's what the main obsticle is here.

Perhaps we should start a campaign of some sort in an effort to raise funds
for the development and showing of the TV advert BEFORE we talk about who's
playing which role, as to speak.

Liam

On 31 January 2010 20:03, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 31/01/2010 20:01, alan c wrote:
  Steve wrote:
 
  A new thread to discus a possible TV advert
 
  I was at a friend's house this afternoon (Sunday) and happened to
  notice a Microsoft Windows 7  tv advert on the channel which was sky
  sports, at approximately 3.30 pm , in the middle of a lot of sports
  programs.
 
  It occurred to me that if we wanted a masterclass for tv advertising
  an OS, then what Microsoft is doing for Windows 7 might be useful to
  keep in mind.
 
  However, peak, peak time on sky sports for 10 seconds might cost more
  than an arm and a leg?
--
  alan cocks
  Ubuntu user
 
 
 Personally those adverts don't do anything for me. They can't even demo
 their product properly - the snap feature doesn't quite look like that
 when you do it - there's a little animation before it does it, which
 isn't shown on the advert. It looks low performance, even though I run
 Win 7 and it runs faster than the advert!

 So yeah, personally I don't like the advert style, and I know plenty of
 MS users that also don't like it, too cheesy is the general consensus.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, like say Help us finish this sort of thing? sounds like a good
incentive!

On 31 January 2010 21:00, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:35:25 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I suppose the problem we have with creating something like this is, the
  general public already KNOW what windows is, a lot don't really know what
  Ubuntu, and Linux are. Perhaps if we were to create a TV advert, the main
  purpose of it would be to inform people what Ubuntu is.
 
  Perhaps a TV advert would be a good way to do this - 3 whole minutes of
  sheer information.
  However, where it to come into fruition, we would need funds, and I think
  that's what the main obstacle is here.
 
  Perhaps we should start a campaign of some sort in an effort to raise
  funds
  for the development and showing of the TV advert BEFORE we talk about
  who's
  playing which role, as to speak.
 
 Maybe if we can produce 30-60 seconds worth of advert it may be easier to
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Cheers steve, if you're going to re-size them, the'yd ideally be around the
864x514 px size, as that's a reasonable size for them to be printed on A4.

On 31 January 2010 21:25, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:13:18 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
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  Yeah, like say Help us finish this sort of thing? sounds like a good
  incentive!
 
 I’m playing with your screen shots and impress at the moment to see what I
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] idea for tv ad

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to think
about actual content first. I think the best plan of action to get this
going is to think about what we want in the first 30-60 seconds. This way,
we have a general idea of where the video is headed in terms of genre and
audience, and as previously mentioned, it will help as an incentive if we
are to get any donations/funding for the showing and/or development of this
advert.

To start us off, we would need a number of things;


   - Somewhere to host the project - Ideally a blog or website
   - A paypal account, so viewers can donate funds to the cause
   - Somewhere to talk about it.
   - Such as an IRC channel/mailing list/forum, just so it's not just
  restricted to Ubuntu-uk, and also so any skeptics or people who
don't want
  to participate don't get annoyed by the sheer volume of threads about the
  advert (which is what seems to be happening at the moment)
   - People to help!
  - The more the merrier. Perhaps we could get in touch the with folks
  at ubuntu-marketing, to see if they can offer any expertise.
   - A definitive plan.
  - We really need to decide where we're headed with this advert. If
  it's to come into fruition, we need to not only get ideas out, but also
  select which ones are the most feasable and doable within our 3-month
  target.
   - Software!
  - As asked before, ideally any software is good. Wether it be
  proprietary or FOSS. Remember, if we're going to make this
happen, we only
  have 3 months, so it's best to use software that can get the job done!

So if we want to advertise Ubuntu, I think these are the main goals that we
need to achieve. If anyone has any other ideas as to what we need to
achieve, this is the place for that. First off, I think it would be a good
idea to have someplace we can host what we're doing, i.e; the project
outlines and goals and suchforth. Would the Ubuntu wiki (maybe even the
ubuntu-uk one) be a good place for this?

Liam

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Oh right. Silly me! xD

Liam

On 31 January 2010 21:44, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:33:05 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Cheers steve, if you're going to re-size them, the'yd ideally be around
  the
  864x514 px size, as that's a reasonable size for them to be printed on
  A4.
 
 I’m not going to print them, I’m trying to animate your poster.

  On 31 January 2010 21:25, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:13:18 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Yeah, like say Help us finish this sort of thing? sounds like a good
   incentive!
  
  I’m playing with your screen shots and impress at the moment to see
  what I
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey everyone;

IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to think
about actual content first. I think the best plan of action to get this
going is to think about what we want in the first 30-60 seconds. This way,
we have a general idea of where the video is headed in terms of genre and
audience, and as previously mentioned, it will help as an incentive if we
are to get any donations/funding for the showing and/or development of this
advert.

To start us off, we would need a number of things;


   - Somewhere to host the project - Ideally a blog or website
   - A paypal account, so viewers can donate funds to the cause
   - Somewhere to talk about it.
   - Such as an IRC channel/mailing list/forum, just so it's not just
  restricted to Ubuntu-uk, and also so any skeptics or people who
don't want
  to participate don't get annoyed by the sheer volume of threads about the
  advert (which is what seems to be happening at the moment)
   - People to help!
  - The more the merrier. Perhaps we could get in touch the with folks
  at ubuntu-marketing, to see if they can offer any expertise.
   - A definitive plan.
  - We really need to decide where we're headed with this advert. If
  it's to come into fruition, we need to not only get ideas out, but also
  select which ones are the most feasable and doable within our 3-month
  target.
   - Software!
  - As asked before, ideally any software is good. Wether it be
  proprietary or FOSS. Remember, if we're going to make this
happen, we only
  have 3 months, so it's best to use software that can get the job done!

So if we want to advertise Ubuntu, I think these are the main goals that we
need to achieve. If anyone has any other ideas as to what we need to
achieve, this is the place for that. First off, I think it would be a good
idea to have someplace we can host what we're doing, i.e; the project
outlines and goals and suchforth. Would the Ubuntu wiki (maybe even the
ubuntu-uk one) be a good place for this?

I've made us a Wiki site on google sites, which can be found here:
http://sites.google.com/site/ubuntutvadvertproject/
It's only the very basic template as of typing, I'll work more on it
tomorrow.

Liam

On 31 January 2010 21:50, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh right. Silly me! xD

 Liam


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 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:33:05 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Cheers steve, if you're going to re-size them, the'yd ideally be around
  the
  864x514 px size, as that's a reasonable size for them to be printed on
  A4.
 
 I’m not going to print them, I’m trying to animate your poster.

  On 31 January 2010 21:25, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:13:18 -, Liam Wilson 
 liamwilso...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Yeah, like say Help us finish this sort of thing? sounds like a
 good
   incentive!
  
  I’m playing with your screen shots and impress at the moment to see
  what I
  can do.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert - media?

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Oh wow. Just goes to show that something like this may still be possible.

Alan, are you interested in creating this advert, for serious? If you are,
I'll make you a collaborator to the google sites page I set up for the
project (the page is bare as-is).
http://sites.google.com/site/ubuntutvadvertproject/

On 31 January 2010 23:17, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:

 Steve wrote:
  A new thread to discus a possible TV advert

 Just a thought - this Firefox ad in New York Times
 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,100097,39181362,00.htm
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, looking at the perspective you've put it at Alan, I guess you're
right.

You mentioned spending the time/money on other things, but what like?
And If we WERE to create a TV adverrt for Ubuntu, no doubt there is interest
in doing so, do you think it's a bit ambitious trying to aim for the release
of Lucid, or do you think would it be a better option to aim for MM or even
beyond? Personally, I think that Lucid would be a good goal to aim for, as
it's 3 months away, and there's less chance of loss of interest in 3 months
than 6 - but that's just my opinion, obviously, you've had experience
working with projects before, such as the UUPC, and I haven't.

If I'm honest, I wasn't aware we had tools like a collaborative editor, so
thanks for pointing that one out.

How would you suggest we start this project then, if we're actually
determined to see it through?

Thanks;

Liam


On 31 January 2010 23:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 31 January 2010 23:13, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
  IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to think
  about actual content first.

 I disagree. The very first thing is to look at what the goal is. Only
 once you know the goal, target audience, approach, method of delivery
 and so on can you begin to look at content. I'm personally of the
 opinion that now is not the time to create a TV advert, and that the
 money/time could be better spent on other things, but its not my place
 to tell people what to do.

  Somewhere to host the project - Ideally a blog or website
  A paypal account, so viewers can donate funds to the cause
  Somewhere to talk about it.
 

 We have considerable resources to help this kind of marketing effort
 already. We have a wiki and a collaborative editor:-

 http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam
 http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/

 We have a marketing mailing list and irc channel:-

 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
 #ubuntu-marketinghttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing%0A#ubuntu-marketingon
 irc.freenode.net

 We also have sites where content can be shared:-

 http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/

  Such as an IRC channel/mailing list/forum, just so it's not just
 restricted
  to Ubuntu-uk, and also so any skeptics or people who don't want to
  participate don't get annoyed by the sheer volume of threads about the
  advert (which is what seems to be happening at the moment)
 

 If it is an Ubuntu UK LoCo project then I'd encourage you to use the
 resources available - including this list.

  The more the merrier.

 Not always true. Too many cooks.

  Perhaps we could get in touch the with folks at
  ubuntu-marketing, to see if they can offer any expertise.
 

 I'd certainly advice introducing the idea to the Ubuntu Community
 Marketing people (linked above).

  So if we want to advertise Ubuntu, I think these are the main goals that
 we
  need to achieve. If anyone has any other ideas as to what we need to
  achieve, this is the place for that. First off, I think it would be a
 good
  idea to have someplace we can host what we're doing, i.e; the project
  outlines and goals and suchforth. Would the Ubuntu wiki (maybe even the
  ubuntu-uk one) be a good place for this?
 

 See above links to existing resources.

  I've made us a Wiki site on google sites, which can be found here:
  http://sites.google.com/site/ubuntutvadvertproject/
  It's only the very basic template as of typing, I'll work more on it
  tomorrow.
 

 Again I'd recommend using the sites and resources we have, and
 collaborate with existing marketing efforts rather than potentially
 duplicating effort.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I guess there are a lot more projects (Probably some similar to this idea)
that could do with work/help rather than creating one at the possibility of
it not coming into fruition, as raising enough money and getting the advert
done correctly would be a pretty big problem in itself, I guess.

Suppose something like commercial advertising of Ubuntu is left to the guys
who have the money, but that's not to say we should stop campaigning for the
the release of lucid, eh?

Liam

On 1 February 2010 00:35, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 31 January 2010 23:46, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yeah, looking at the perspective you've put it at Alan, I guess you're
  right.
 

 I'm just a guy with an opinion.

  You mentioned spending the time/money on other things, but what like?

 Whatever takes your fancy, the project has lots of ways for people to
 contribute:-

 http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu

  And If we WERE to create a TV adverrt for Ubuntu, no doubt there is
 interest
  in doing so, do you think it's a bit ambitious trying to aim for the
 release
  of Lucid, or do you think would it be a better option to aim for MM or
 even
  beyond?

 I personally don't believe there is a need for a TV advert at all
 right now. I'd rather start from the opposite end and ask what the
 need of a TV advert is. What goal is to be achieved by putting Ubuntu
 on the telly?

  Personally, I think that Lucid would be a good goal to aim for, as
  it's 3 months away, and there's less chance of loss of interest in 3
 months
  than 6 - but that's just my opinion, obviously, you've had experience
  working with projects before, such as the UUPC, and I haven't.
 

 We planned the first episode of UUPC for about 3 months. Ok, not solid
 work, but discussion started in January '08 and S01E01 was released in
 April '08. Planning for a podcast is a whole different ball game than
 planning a TV advert. I have no experience of the latter, but can only
 speculate on how much work is involved.

 Note also that the cost and effort to us of putting out a podcast
 episode of 1 _hour_ length is orders of magnitude _less_ than it costs
 to put out a 1 _minute_  TV advert. Video is harder than audio. Great,
 compelling video that meets its goal is even harder.

  How would you suggest we start this project then, if we're actually
  determined to see it through?
 

 I've probably made it quite clear that I don't see the value of having
 a TV advert. Take a look at the experience one person had with putting
 together a radio advert and learn from that.

 http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/09/tux-takes-to-airwve.html

 http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/10/grand-experiment-linux-ads-on-radio.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
In fact, if we still wanted to, I'm pretty sure we could make an advert, and
then just put it on youtube, sort of like what microsoft have done, with
little 'shorts' to promote Win7.

On 1 February 2010 01:20, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess there are a lot more projects (Probably some similar to this idea)
 that could do with work/help rather than creating one at the possibility of
 it not coming into fruition, as raising enough money and getting the advert
 done correctly would be a pretty big problem in itself, I guess.

 Suppose something like commercial advertising of Ubuntu is left to the guys
 who have the money, but that's not to say we should stop campaigning for the
 the release of lucid, eh?

 Liam


 On 1 February 2010 00:35, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 31 January 2010 23:46, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yeah, looking at the perspective you've put it at Alan, I guess you're
  right.
 

 I'm just a guy with an opinion.

  You mentioned spending the time/money on other things, but what like?

 Whatever takes your fancy, the project has lots of ways for people to
 contribute:-

 http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu

  And If we WERE to create a TV adverrt for Ubuntu, no doubt there is
 interest
  in doing so, do you think it's a bit ambitious trying to aim for the
 release
  of Lucid, or do you think would it be a better option to aim for MM or
 even
  beyond?

 I personally don't believe there is a need for a TV advert at all
 right now. I'd rather start from the opposite end and ask what the
 need of a TV advert is. What goal is to be achieved by putting Ubuntu
 on the telly?

  Personally, I think that Lucid would be a good goal to aim for, as
  it's 3 months away, and there's less chance of loss of interest in 3
 months
  than 6 - but that's just my opinion, obviously, you've had experience
  working with projects before, such as the UUPC, and I haven't.
 

 We planned the first episode of UUPC for about 3 months. Ok, not solid
 work, but discussion started in January '08 and S01E01 was released in
 April '08. Planning for a podcast is a whole different ball game than
 planning a TV advert. I have no experience of the latter, but can only
 speculate on how much work is involved.

 Note also that the cost and effort to us of putting out a podcast
 episode of 1 _hour_ length is orders of magnitude _less_ than it costs
 to put out a 1 _minute_  TV advert. Video is harder than audio. Great,
 compelling video that meets its goal is even harder.

  How would you suggest we start this project then, if we're actually
  determined to see it through?
 

 I've probably made it quite clear that I don't see the value of having
 a TV advert. Take a look at the experience one person had with putting
 together a radio advert and learn from that.

 http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/09/tux-takes-to-airwve.html

 http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/10/grand-experiment-linux-ads-on-radio.html

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[ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-30 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all;

Seeing as April (And therefore Lucid) are not too far away, I thought it
would be a good idea for us to create some sort of Marketing Campaign to
celebrate the release of the next LTS release, possibly by creating
posters/flyers/leaflets of some sort to possibly put around our local
communities?

Anyone have any good ideas?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-30 Thread Liam Wilson
That's quite cool. I was thinking of something in a similar layout to
thishttp://ipodtoucher.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/1197924509.jpg,
only showing how easy it is to install an application in Ubuntu. I'll make a
sort of mockup within the next 30 minutes...

On 30 January 2010 17:50, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:

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 Liam Wilson wrote:
  Hey all;
 
  Seeing as April (And therefore Lucid) are not too far away, I thought it
  would be a good idea for us to create some sort of Marketing Campaign to
  celebrate the release of the next LTS release, possibly by creating
  posters/flyers/leaflets of some sort to possibly put around our local
  communities?
 
  Anyone have any good ideas?
 
  Liam
 

 I have put some posters on my website at www.zleap.net under portfolio,
  the latest ubuntu poster is for 9.10.

 I am working on a simpler pre-launch poster for 10.04 that will be
 uploaded shortly,  Feel free to grab what I have so far and use / modify.

 I agree lets get the name out there,  perhaps a simpler poster can be
 combined with a launch party details etc,  or ubuntu hour,  so it gives
 a proper event to go for.

 We also need to see if we can get the bbc to announce on the text
 service that 10.04 is out.  they do it for windows and apple stuff so
 why not ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-30 Thread Liam Wilson
Evening chaps;

Here's a 1st draft of the Ubuntu poster I'm planning to make, showing the
simplicity of installing software via the software centre. What do you guys
think?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx2x3zP2rd1qai2mzo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264973503Signature=ubjfyJcDFpk7W3Xxp0wq2cY8f7w%3D

P.S: Sorry about the poor quality of the picture, It's my scanners fault,
honest!


On 30 January 2010 18:11, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's quite cool. I was thinking of something in a similar layout to 
 thishttp://ipodtoucher.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/1197924509.jpg,
 only showing how easy it is to install an application in Ubuntu. I'll make a
 sort of mockup within the next 30 minutes...


 On 30 January 2010 17:50, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Liam Wilson wrote:
  Hey all;
 
  Seeing as April (And therefore Lucid) are not too far away, I thought it
  would be a good idea for us to create some sort of Marketing Campaign to
  celebrate the release of the next LTS release, possibly by creating
  posters/flyers/leaflets of some sort to possibly put around our local
  communities?
 
  Anyone have any good ideas?
 
  Liam
 

 I have put some posters on my website at www.zleap.net under portfolio,
  the latest ubuntu poster is for 9.10.

 I am working on a simpler pre-launch poster for 10.04 that will be
 uploaded shortly,  Feel free to grab what I have so far and use / modify.

 I agree lets get the name out there,  perhaps a simpler poster can be
 combined with a launch party details etc,  or ubuntu hour,  so it gives
 a proper event to go for.

 We also need to see if we can get the bbc to announce on the text
 service that 10.04 is out.  they do it for windows and apple stuff so
 why not ubuntu.

 Paul
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-30 Thread Liam Wilson
Pixel-wise? I'm working on 1290x1440 at the moment. (The page I used to scan
was only A4) Is that too big/too small do you think? It'll probably be
scalable, too.

Liam

On 30 January 2010 21:50, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:34:16 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Evening chaps;
 
  Here's a 1st draft of the Ubuntu poster I'm planning to make, showing the
  simplicity of installing software via the software centre. What do you
  guys
  think?
 
 
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx2x3zP2rd1qai2mzo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264973503Signature=ubjfyJcDFpk7W3Xxp0wq2cY8f7w%3D
 
  P.S: Sorry about the poor quality of the picture, It's my scanners fault,
  honest!
 
 
 Hmmm. How big is this going to be?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-30 Thread Liam Wilson
I think only 1-2 of the screenshots are going to be actual full screen. If
they don't look clear enough at print, I'll reduce the amount visible in the
screenshots (Zoom in, so to speak), or give those screenshots more space on
the page. I'll just see how it goes for now. Right now, I'm just taking the
screenshots themselves.

On 30 January 2010 22:13, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:59:46 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Pixel-wise? I'm working on 1290x1440 at the moment. (The page I used to
  scan
  was only A4) Is that too big/too small do you think? It'll probably be
  scalable, too.
 
  Liam
 
 Just wondering how much detail is going to be in the screen shots.  If
 it’s printed on A4 they’re only going to be about 2 wide at the most.

  On 30 January 2010 21:50, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:34:16 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Evening chaps;
  
   Here's a 1st draft of the Ubuntu poster I'm planning to make, showing
  the
   simplicity of installing software via the software centre. What do you
   guys
   think?
  
  
 
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx2x3zP2rd1qai2mzo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264973503Signature=ubjfyJcDFpk7W3Xxp0wq2cY8f7w%3D
  
   P.S: Sorry about the poor quality of the picture, It's my scanners
  fault,
   honest!
  
  
  Hmmm. How big is this going to be?
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-30 Thread Liam Wilson
aah, so I'll have to put margins on it before its printed. But i think you
can do that on the CUPS dialogue on printing preferences.

anyway, here's what I've done so far:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx328km8DI1qai2mzo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264980138Signature=ymEVuWzOps8kjZmcllIFbXdq6m8%3D

On 30 January 2010 23:18, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:08:36 -, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:

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  Liam Wilson wrote:
  Yeah, working on A4 gives me more space to work on than the original
  resolution, so I'll work on A4. Should look good when it's finished. (I
  hope!)
 
  Liam
 
 
  At least on A4 we can all print it, that way the poster should reach
  more people.
 
  Don't forget to put the ubuntu website address on it :)
 
 Unless you’ve got a HP printer like mine that cant print a full A4 image
 as it requires margins top and bottom where it grips the paper.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-30 Thread Liam Wilson
Aye, t'is the default background from 9.04; I like it because it's simple,
and the stripes give it a feeling of elegance, I think! :)

On 30 January 2010 23:35, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:23:59 -, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  aah, so I'll have to put margins on it before its printed. But i think
  you
  can do that on the CUPS dialogue on printing preferences.
 
 There are various ways round it,such as testing the colour laser printer
 at work :)

  anyway, here's what I've done so far:
 
 http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx328km8DI1qai2mzo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1264980138Signature=ymEVuWzOps8kjZmcllIFbXdq6m8%3D
 
 I do like that orangey/brown colour, that’s what attracted me to Ubuntu in
 the first place.  So far so good.

  On 30 January 2010 23:18, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:08:36 -, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net
 wrote:
 
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   Liam Wilson wrote:
   Yeah, working on A4 gives me more space to work on than the original
   resolution, so I'll work on A4. Should look good when it's finished.
  (I
   hope!)
  
   Liam
  
  
   At least on A4 we can all print it, that way the poster should reach
   more people.
  
   Don't forget to put the ubuntu website address on it :)
  
  Unless you’ve got a HP printer like mine that cant print a full A4 image
  as it requires margins top and bottom where it grips the paper.
 
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[ubuntu-uk] Dell Mini Ubuntu Key?

2009-12-16 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey everyone;

I bought a Dell Mini 10v, with Ubuntu, of course, and much to my 
distaste, if you would, has shipped with a windows key!
(Between rALT and FN), and I was wondering if anyone knew where to get 
an Ubuntu one? A quick google search hasn't turned up any results, so I 
was wondering inf anyone here could help?

Many thanks, and Merry Christmas!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openshot video editing software Karmic Koala

2009-11-01 Thread Liam Wilson
I fell into this trap with Openshot, the PPA messes all kinds of stuff
up, I can't remember how I fixed it, but it did involve uninstalling
OpenShot. I remember tryig to play the Original Godzilla when it
happened. I was sad :(

I don't think the .deb messes with the shizzle, but I wouldn't try it. -
Better safe than sorry.

Liam.

On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 17:25 +, Tim Dobson wrote:
 Simon Osborne wrote:
  Yes. It upgrades libavcodec to a version which is incompatible with
  gstreamer and VLC, along with other things. It can be fixed by forcing
  a downgrade on libavcodec to the version supplied with Karmic.
 
 I'm not on karmic yet but this is an interesting point. Currently 
 KDEnlive (my preferred video editing suite) can't deal with AAC audio by 
 default due to some broken libavcodec package as I understand.
 As my (stupid) video camera outputs h.264 + aac this is somewhat 
 frustrating.
 
 Anyway, hopefully this will all get smoothed out! :)
 
 Tim
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it today Koala comes out?????

2009-10-29 Thread Liam Wilson
John Matthews wrote:
 Just wondered when Koala was due out. Have tried a forced upgrade using 
 altf2 it is still showing a beta version. Is that correct or will it be 
 changed today.

 Kojm

   
I don't thin Karmic is actually out _YET_ Usually, it's released about 
12-ish, if I'm right? Something to do with American times, I heard once.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it today Koala comes out?????

2009-10-29 Thread Liam Wilson
Alan Pope wrote:
 2009/10/29 John Matthews jake...@sky.com:
   
 Just wondered when Koala was due out. Have tried a forced upgrade using
 altf2 it is still showing a beta version. Is that correct or will it be
 changed today.

 

 Today is the day, yes. I'd recommend you subscribe to the Ubuntu
 Announce mailing list so you know as soon as it's out.

 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce

 Cheers,
 Al.

   
Don't suppose anyone is attending the IRC release party at 
#ubuntu-release-party on freenode, are they? :P

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[ubuntu-uk] Setting Up an Ubuntu network?

2009-10-29 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey, I have 2 computers Running Ubuntu 9.04 (soon to be 9.10) Thing is, 
ones a laptop, and the others a netbook running UNR. They're currently 
connected to a XP server via Samba, But I'd like to set up a Linux 
network between the laptop and the netbook, with the Laptop as the client.

How would I go about this, as I know nothing of Ubuntu networking.

Many thanks;

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[ubuntu-uk] Samba timeout?

2009-10-27 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all;

I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box 
using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works 
fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my 
files on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then 
the connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does 
not even show up in Networks!

Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?

Many thanks;

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[ubuntu-uk] Samba Timeout?

2009-10-27 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all;

I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box
using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works
fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my files
on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then the
connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does not even
show up in Networks!

Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samba Timeout?

2009-10-27 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, I clicked 'Manage' and under Shared Folders - Sessions, nothing came
up!

2009/10/27 Paul Roach roa...@roachy.net

 On the XP Box, right click on My Computer, and then select Manage.

 In there you should be able to see Shared Folders and Sessions.  Check that
 the number of sessions does not exceed 10 - as I've seen smbclient not
 release connections previously, and XP will only allow 10 concurrent
 connections


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 I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box
 using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works
 fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my files
 on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then the
 connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does not even
 show up in Networks!

 Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bizarre Firefox behaviour

2009-10-23 Thread Liam Wilson
Stephen Garton wrote:
 2009/10/23 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net:
   
 Since yesterday's Jaunty update Firefox appears to have lost its
 history, refresh etc. buttons and only has the original domain in
 the address bar (ie. if I go to http://sitea.com and click on links
 within the address bar does not change, even if I go to other sites -
 rather like framed content).

 Anybody else had this?  If so, how do I resolve it?

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 Not much help I'm afraid, but I regularly get this. It has what's
 turned me into using chromium for most of my browsing.


 Steve Garton
 http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk

   
Same here, that and the fact it seems hell-bent on installing 
'Shiretoko' instead of 3.5 has forced me away to Chrome. Firefox really 
does suck now

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bizarre Firefox behaviour

2009-10-23 Thread Liam Wilson
Thomas Ibbotson wrote:
 Stephen Garton wrote:
   
 2009/10/23 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net:
   
 
 Since yesterday's Jaunty update Firefox appears to have lost its
 history, refresh etc. buttons and only has the original domain in
 the address bar (ie. if I go to http://sitea.com and click on links
 within the address bar does not change, even if I go to other sites -
 rather like framed content).

 Anybody else had this?  If so, how do I resolve it?

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 Sean,

 Not much help I'm afraid, but I regularly get this. It has what's
 turned me into using chromium for most of my browsing.


 Steve Garton
 http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk

   
 
 Yep, I too use Google Chrome now for all my browsing. The difference in 
 speed means I cannot go back to firefox, it seems to take an age to do 
 anything. I installed it by following the instruction in this page:

 http://lazyubuntu.com/how-to-install-google-chrome-dev-build-on-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope.html

 Tom


   
 Yeah, the speed on chrome compared to Firefox really is unreal, isn't 
it? Firefox seems horribly slow and clunky and unstable compared to the 
google-chrome-unstable build.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-21 Thread Liam Wilson
Neil Greenwood wrote:
 2009/10/21 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com:
   
 Apologies - sent that a little early!

 He did go on to talk about it a little bit, but it did come across as
 a geek OS, he said that 'people' just want something that works, and
 don't have to fuss about with it.

 All in all, I do have to say that Windows 7 is very nice compared to
 Vista.

 James

 
 Did anyone else watch BBC News this morning?

 Whilst showing off Windows 7, the tech correspondent showed a Mac with
 Safari open on ubuntu.com

 Didn't actually mention the name etc, but said about other OSes.

 James

   

 On BBC Breakfast, Rory Cellan-Jones was demonstrating multi-touch on
 Windows 7. He said he normally uses a different system, then went on
 to say that Apple were trying to spoil the launch by announcing new
 products recently, and that free software was going to celebrate the
 launch of a new Ubuntu version next week (he pronounced it right too)!

 Cofion,
 Neil.

   
Yeah, but he also sort of played it down a bit by just dismissing it as 
A bunch of enthusiasts trying to persuade us... and then basically 
just dismissing it completely!

I also noticed dell has done this a little on thier Windows Vs. Ubuntu page:
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=ukcs=ukdhs1l=ens=dhs

I also noticed it spelt programs wrong xD

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-21 Thread Liam Wilson
Paul Sutton wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Liam Wilson wrote:
   
 Neil Greenwood wrote:
 
 2009/10/21 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com:
   
   
 Apologies - sent that a little early!

 He did go on to talk about it a little bit, but it did come across as
 a geek OS, he said that 'people' just want something that works, and
 don't have to fuss about with it.

 All in all, I do have to say that Windows 7 is very nice compared to
 Vista.

 James

 
 
 Did anyone else watch BBC News this morning?

 Whilst showing off Windows 7, the tech correspondent showed a Mac with
 Safari open on ubuntu.com

 Didn't actually mention the name etc, but said about other OSes.

 James

   
   
 On BBC Breakfast, Rory Cellan-Jones was demonstrating multi-touch on
 Windows 7. He said he normally uses a different system, then went on
 to say that Apple were trying to spoil the launch by announcing new
 products recently, and that free software was going to celebrate the
 launch of a new Ubuntu version next week (he pronounced it right too)!

 Cofion,
 Neil.

   
   
 Yeah, but he also sort of played it down a bit by just dismissing it as 
 A bunch of enthusiasts trying to persuade us... and then basically 
 just dismissing it completely!

 I also noticed dell has done this a little on thier Windows Vs. Ubuntu page:
 http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=ukcs=ukdhs1l=ens=dhs

 I also noticed it spelt programs wrong xD

 
 it may be worth clicking on feedback adn commenting,

 This seems more like MS FUD, than facts, but by commenting we can set
 the record straight, open office can load / save office 07 files for
 example, Ubuntu is for more than just programming, even though that
 option is nice, something I can't use windows for unless i buy more
 software.

 Ubuntu may not be able to run MS office directly but it can using
 crossover office,  or install Open office which I assume by 3.1 can now
 open / save office 07 file format.  Odf is also an ISO standard, so that
 may be significant, or pushing it a bit too far for them to cope with.

 Perhaps we can work out what to write here, submit that,

 Paul

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Yeah, I noticed there was feedback button, so I posted:

[I noticed on the Windows Or Ubuntu page, you stated that Ubuntu is not 
compatible with Microsoft Office Software. I would like to inform you 
that Ubuntu is compatible with Microsoft Office files, and I think it 
would be worthwhile putting this on the webpage.

Also, you Spelt Programs wrong.]

It also say's on the Dell Ubuntu page, that you can _ONLY_ use FOSS 
software. I shall too ask for this to be changed. I sound picky, but it 
bugs me!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Radio 4 and Bansee

2009-10-21 Thread Liam Wilson
Tony Arnold wrote:
 Liam,

 Liam Wilson wrote:
   
 How do I add BBC Radio 4 to Banshee? E.I; the Stream URL, etc?
 

 I've added it to RhythmBOx using the following URL:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4.asx

 HTH.

 Regards,
 Tony.
   
Yeah, that worked great! Thanks a lot Tony!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] streaming content via wires!

2009-10-07 Thread Liam Wilson
2009/10/7 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Some of you may remember my post about streaming content from a ubuntu pc
 to a media centre/xbox over an eternet wire a couple of months ago! All of
 this in my new house

 Well heres a quick update.

 I was thinking of how best to get this done when it occurred to me that
 when i get the virgin man to drill a whole to install the virgin services
 (the internet upstairs, the tv box downstairs) the most logical solution is
 that i ask him very nicely to drill another two holes and at the same time
 run an ethernet wire through those. So one ethernet clippy thing is upstairs
 and the other is downstairs. In the living room. Then when i want to watch
 something all i have to do is make sure its connected to my pc upstairs and
 im done. No wire, no hassle.

 Simple.

 What do you think?
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[ubuntu-uk] Problem Playing some Video files

2009-10-06 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all,

After uninstalling Openshot, it seems that I cannot play some Video 
files (Notably .avi files that use a xvid video codec). No matter what 
Player I use, VLC, Mplayer, Totem, etc; The sound plays, but no video.

And after searching for a codec with Totem, it seems to be that there 
isn't an xvid codec, and yet, before uninstalling Openshot, the videos 
played just fine!


Now, I've re-installed Openshot, in the hope that my video files would 
play, and I've had some luck in that they play in Openshot, but still no 
luck in anything else - and I don't really plan on having to import a 
video into openshot every time I want to play a movie.

I've even tried un and re-installing Gstreamer, intalling the 
restricted-extras package, all to no avail' ;_;

Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose or solve this problem at all?

If anyone does, I would GREATLY appreciate it!

Thanks; Liam.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem Playing some Video files

2009-10-06 Thread Liam Wilson
Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com:
   
 Hey all,

 After uninstalling Openshot, it seems that I cannot play some Video
 files (Notably .avi files that use a xvid video codec). No matter what
 Player I use, VLC, Mplayer, Totem, etc; The sound plays, but no video.

 And after searching for a codec with Totem, it seems to be that there
 isn't an xvid codec, and yet, before uninstalling Openshot, the videos
 played just fine!


 Now, I've re-installed Openshot, in the hope that my video files would
 play, and I've had some luck in that they play in Openshot, but still no
 luck in anything else - and I don't really plan on having to import a
 video into openshot every time I want to play a movie.

 I've even tried un and re-installing Gstreamer, intalling the
 restricted-extras package, all to no avail' ;_;

 Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose or solve this problem at all?

 If anyone does, I would GREATLY appreciate it!

 Thanks; Liam.

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 I'm running Karmic, so YMMV.

 This sounds like the problem I had when I added a PPA which updated
 libavutil49 (among others). It replaced /usr/lib/libavutil.so.49 with
 /usr/lib/libavutil.so.50 meaning Gstreamer couldn't find the .49
 version and failed (a symlink didn't fix it). The version which broke
 mine was svn20090924, the version I have now is svn20090706.

 If you run Totem in a terminal it should tell you what's wrong (and if
 it can't find a file).

   
Well Running Totem gets me this:

l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9: 
DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module 
instead
  import sha
** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid, 
framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4 
decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.


and running VLC gets me this:

l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9: 
DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module 
instead
  import sha
** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid, 
framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4 
decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.


Sounds like it isn't installed, but I don't know?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem Playing some Video files

2009-10-06 Thread Liam Wilson
Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com:
   
 Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 
 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com:

   
 Hey all,

 After uninstalling Openshot, it seems that I cannot play some Video
 files (Notably .avi files that use a xvid video codec). No matter what
 Player I use, VLC, Mplayer, Totem, etc; The sound plays, but no video.

 And after searching for a codec with Totem, it seems to be that there
 isn't an xvid codec, and yet, before uninstalling Openshot, the videos
 played just fine!


 Now, I've re-installed Openshot, in the hope that my video files would
 play, and I've had some luck in that they play in Openshot, but still no
 luck in anything else - and I don't really plan on having to import a
 video into openshot every time I want to play a movie.

 I've even tried un and re-installing Gstreamer, intalling the
 restricted-extras package, all to no avail' ;_;

 Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose or solve this problem at all?

 If anyone does, I would GREATLY appreciate it!

 Thanks; Liam.

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 I'm running Karmic, so YMMV.

 This sounds like the problem I had when I added a PPA which updated
 libavutil49 (among others). It replaced /usr/lib/libavutil.so.49 with
 /usr/lib/libavutil.so.50 meaning Gstreamer couldn't find the .49
 version and failed (a symlink didn't fix it). The version which broke
 mine was svn20090924, the version I have now is svn20090706.

 If you run Totem in a terminal it should tell you what's wrong (and if
 it can't find a file).


   
 Well Running Totem gets me this:

 l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
 /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
 DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
 instead
  import sha
 ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
 framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
 ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
 decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
 ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.


 and running VLC gets me this:

 l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
 /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
 DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
 instead
  import sha
 ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
 framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
 ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
 decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
 ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.


 Sounds like it isn't installed, but I don't know?

 Liam.

 

 Have you double-checked you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
 installed? Plus check the output of vlc, you emailed totem output
 twice. :)

   
Aah, so I did!
Yes,

gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse

is installed, and the output for VLC is:

l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ vlc
VLC media player 1.0.2 Goldeneye
[0x9583140] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to 
use vlc without interface.
main warning: can't store message (Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide 
character): found Chunk fourcc:28dd5416 (
[0xb7607a50] avcodec decoder error: cannot open codec (MPEG-4 Video)
[0xb7607a50] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `XVID'.
VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.

Hope this helps a little;

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem Playing some Video files

2009-10-06 Thread Liam Wilson
Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com:
   
 Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 
 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com:

   
 Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:

 
 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com:


   
 Hey all,

 After uninstalling Openshot, it seems that I cannot play some Video
 files (Notably .avi files that use a xvid video codec). No matter what
 Player I use, VLC, Mplayer, Totem, etc; The sound plays, but no video.

 And after searching for a codec with Totem, it seems to be that there
 isn't an xvid codec, and yet, before uninstalling Openshot, the videos
 played just fine!


 Now, I've re-installed Openshot, in the hope that my video files would
 play, and I've had some luck in that they play in Openshot, but still no
 luck in anything else - and I don't really plan on having to import a
 video into openshot every time I want to play a movie.

 I've even tried un and re-installing Gstreamer, intalling the
 restricted-extras package, all to no avail' ;_;

 Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose or solve this problem at 
 all?

 If anyone does, I would GREATLY appreciate it!

 Thanks; Liam.

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 I'm running Karmic, so YMMV.

 This sounds like the problem I had when I added a PPA which updated
 libavutil49 (among others). It replaced /usr/lib/libavutil.so.49 with
 /usr/lib/libavutil.so.50 meaning Gstreamer couldn't find the .49
 version and failed (a symlink didn't fix it). The version which broke
 mine was svn20090924, the version I have now is svn20090706.

 If you run Totem in a terminal it should tell you what's wrong (and if
 it can't find a file).



   
 Well Running Totem gets me this:

 l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
 /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
 DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
 instead
  import sha
 ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
 framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
 ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
 decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
 ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.


 and running VLC gets me this:

 l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
 /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
 DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
 instead
  import sha
 ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
 framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
 ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
 decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
 ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.


 Sounds like it isn't installed, but I don't know?

 Liam.


 
 Have you double-checked you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
 installed? Plus check the output of vlc, you emailed totem output
 twice. :)


   
 Aah, so I did!
 Yes,

 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse

 is installed, and the output for VLC is:

 l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ vlc
 VLC media player 1.0.2 Goldeneye
 [0x9583140] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' 
 to use vlc without interface.
 main warning: can't store message (Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide 
 character): found Chunk fourcc:28dd5416 (
 [0xb7607a50] avcodec decoder error: cannot open codec (MPEG-4 Video)
 [0xb7607a50] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc 
 `XVID'.
 VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.

 Hope this helps a little;

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 Ah ha, just looked at the Openshot PPA to see what else it installs
 and it is indeed likely to be an issue with the shared av libraries
 (it's part of the ffmpeg stuff). You'll probably need to to remove
 libavutil49 or libavutil50, remove the Openshot PPA from your
 sources.list, then reinstall libavutil49. It will want to
 automatically remove things like VLC and mplayer but nothing
 important; you can then reinstall them.

   
Yaaay!
It worked!
I could kiss you right now, but I can't, because that would be probably 
wrong on a lot of levels :)

Thanks a lot Jonathon.

Liam
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'

2009-09-29 Thread Liam Wilson

Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:

2009/9/26 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com:
  

Tony Pursell wrote:


On 26 Sep 2009 at 16:15, Liam Wilson wrote:

  

Hey all;
I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and
upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are
drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then
went to Server - Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server.
After frying to connect to it, I get the error

There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt
failed'.

What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work
for my ICT course.

Many, many thanks;
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Have a look at

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-
EasyShare_Printer_Dock_Plus_Series_3

That is for the EasyShare Printer Dock Plus Series 3.  Its given an
'mostly works' rating.

The information on the EasyShare Printer Dock Series 3 (I.e not 'Plus')
is that it does not work ('paperweight rating').

Go to

http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Kodak

to see all Kodak printers.

There may be drivers on the Kodak website.

Tony




  

Turns out that I needed to start cups before i could install a printer,
but it ALSO turns out that there are NO linux drivers for my driver. At
all, which I'm not at all happy about! :)

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You could also look for a PPD file (normally included somewhere in the
Windows driver installation archive). This provides CUPS enough
information to get the printer working.

  
Cheers for the Idea, but Unfortunately, I couldn't seem to find a PPD 
file that worked with my Printer, so it looks like I'm going back to my 
old one!


Cheers for the help anyway guys :)

A strongly-worded letter shall be sent to Kodak right away!

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[ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'

2009-09-26 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all;
I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and 
upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are 
drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then 
went to Server - Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server. 
After frying to connect to it, I get the error

There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt 
failed'.

What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work 
for my ICT course.

Many, many thanks;
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'

2009-09-26 Thread Liam Wilson
Tony Pursell wrote:
 On 26 Sep 2009 at 16:15, Liam Wilson wrote:
   
 Hey all;
 I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and 
 upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are 
 drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then 
 went to Server - Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server. 
 After frying to connect to it, I get the error

 There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt 
 failed'.

 What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work 
 for my ICT course.

 Many, many thanks;
 Liam Wilson

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 Have a look at 

 http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-
 EasyShare_Printer_Dock_Plus_Series_3

 That is for the EasyShare Printer Dock Plus Series 3.  Its given an 
 'mostly works' rating.  

 The information on the EasyShare Printer Dock Series 3 (I.e not 'Plus') 
 is that it does not work ('paperweight rating').  

 Go to

 http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Kodak

 to see all Kodak printers.

 There may be drivers on the Kodak website.  

 Tony



   
Turns out that I needed to start cups before i could install a printer, 
but it ALSO turns out that there are NO linux drivers for my driver. At 
all, which I'm not at all happy about! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Movie Editor

2009-08-29 Thread Liam Wilson
Tony Pursell wrote:
 On 29 Aug 2009 at 10:32, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
   
 Has anyone else tried this? I have just installed it from the repos. and
 attempted to make a very simple music video for upload to YouTube. I
 used a still jpg for the video and attempted to use an mp3 audio file,
 then an ogg version of the same audio file, but although the picture
 seems to work (as a sustained still in the video frame), all I get in
 the audio is static. I have looked on the web but the developer of OME
 doesn't have much to say about 'no sound' problems except that 'there
 might be a bug'. 

 

 Sound in Ubuntu seems to be real pain. In Audacity (or maybe Sound 
 Recorder, I can't remember which), I know that ogg just gives you 
 static, but mp3 works.

 But I find that configuring sound devices is a real nightmare for me.  I 
 wish sound just worked, like it does in Windows.

 So I think that your problem is with Ubuntu's sound configuration 
 rather than the Movie Editor.

 Tony



   
May I suggest OpenShot Movie Editor? It seems to be a lot more simpler 
to use than The Open Movie Editor (As I have used both) However, it is 
still work-in-progress, and there are a few features not yet 
implemented, but for a simple movie with .jpg's and .mp3's, it works 
just fine!

http://www.openshotvideo.com/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 9.04 Remix question

2009-08-27 Thread Liam Wilson
Gordon wrote:
 Is the Remix only designed for small-screen Netbooks, or would it be 
 suitable for 15.5 Laptops?
 Would there be any advantage in installing the Remix on such a laptop as 
 opposed to the ordinary desktop 9.04?

 Ta!


   
I tried using the Remix on my fat 17 screen, and it still looked great, 
so I guess a 15.5 would be just as good!

And I think the Remix MIGHT use less ram and/or disk space, but that's 
just guess.

Liam

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[ubuntu-uk] Possible NetworkManager bug?

2009-08-25 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey everyone;

I've been having this problem for some time now, and it's really 
starting to get on my nerves ('Bug me', if you would. haha).

The thing is, that when I'm up in my room, I get roughly a 20% signal 
from my router, which is downstairs, but every so often, the status 
applet in the icon area (Top right) jumps to 100% signal, but yet for 
this period of time, which varies, it seems to be disconnecting me from 
the internet, i.e; sometimes it will interrupt my downloads, and/or sign 
me out of pidgin.

Funnily enough, however, it doesn't seem to happen when I actually have 
100% signal. And yes, I have tried with other connections, and the same 
happens.

Is this a bug, or is it fixable?

Thanks a lot;

Liam.

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[ubuntu-uk] Automatically moving mail from a specific sender to a certain file?

2009-08-16 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey, I'm using Thunderbird as my  default mail application for my  
Emails (As  opposed to Evolution), and as I am subscribed to a number of 
Mailing Lists, I thought it would be a lot simpler to organise the Lists 
into folders, so each list has a folder of its own. Is it possible, 
therefore, to have mail from a list sent automatically to the specific 
folder?

For example, If I created a folder and called it UBUNTU-UK, would it be 
possible to have all mail from this list sent automatically to that 
folder as soon as it downloaded? The same goes for my other lists, such 
as UBUNTU-GAMING and GNU-GENERATION, could I have them separated into 
different files, and if so, how would I go about doing it? It would just 
make organizing my mail a bit easier, that's all.

Thanks,

Liam Wilson

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automatically moving mail from a specific sender to a certain file?

2009-08-16 Thread Liam Wilson
James Milligan wrote:
 Liam Wilson wrote:
   
 Hey, I'm using Thunderbird as my  default mail application for my  
 Emails (As  opposed to Evolution), and as I am subscribed to a number of 
 Mailing Lists, I thought it would be a lot simpler to organise the Lists 
 into folders, so each list has a folder of its own. Is it possible, 
 therefore, to have mail from a list sent automatically to the specific 
 folder?

 For example, If I created a folder and called it UBUNTU-UK, would it be 
 possible to have all mail from this list sent automatically to that 
 folder as soon as it downloaded? The same goes for my other lists, such 
 as UBUNTU-GAMING and GNU-GENERATION, could I have them separated into 
 different files, and if so, how would I go about doing it? It would just 
 make organizing my mail a bit easier, that's all.

 Thanks,

 Liam Wilson
   
 
 Hi Liam,

 Yes you can:

 1. Create a new folder, using whatever name you want (for the purposes 
 of this tute I'll use Ubuntu UK List)

 2. Go to Tools, then Message Filters.

 3. Click New

 4. Give it a name (Ubuntu UK List Filter)

 5. 'Match any of the following'

 6. Subject - Contains - '[ubuntu-uk]' for the Ubuntu UK list (this one)

 7. Move Message To - Ubuntu UK List (via dropdown)

 8. Click OK

 9. Click on Run Now (after selecting the filter)

 and that should be it!

 AFAIK these filters run automatically, but you might want to check.

 James Milligan

   
Wow, it worked! Thanks a lot James!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] No sound from Banshee?

2009-08-16 Thread Liam Wilson
Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 On 14/08/09 22:34, Liam Wilson wrote:
   
 Hey, after installing the earcandy package, I got no sound from banshee,
 so I decided to uninstall earcandy, but still no sound from Banshee,
 even after a restart. I can't really use any other media player, as
 Rythmbox crashes when I adjust the volume, and Amarok doesn't work with
 my multimedia keys, which I use regularly, and I just plain don't like
 it. (Although, admittedly, I haven't tried Songbird).
 

 I recommend Songbird :-)



   
I downloaded Songbird, and I admit, I do like it, but I really need CD 
ripping and Podcasts, too (For the Ubuntu UK podcast, obviously!), So 
when Songbird has those features, I'll definitely use that, but since 
they aren't implemented yet, I'm gonna stick with Banshee (Which I fixed 
with an 'apt-get purge banshee', an upgrade of ALSA, and a re-install of 
banshee, works fine now!)

Cheers for the heads up anyway Alan;

Liam

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[ubuntu-uk] No sound from Banshee?

2009-08-14 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey, after installing the earcandy package, I got no sound from banshee, 
so I decided to uninstall earcandy, but still no sound from Banshee, 
even after a restart. I can't really use any other media player, as 
Rythmbox crashes when I adjust the volume, and Amarok doesn't work with 
my multimedia keys, which I use regularly, and I just plain don't like 
it. (Although, admittedly, I haven't tried Songbird).

So, yeah, anyway, I like Banshee, but it's stopped working properly. 
When I run it, and end it from a terminal, I get this:

l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ banshee
[Info  22:32:36.094] Running Banshee 1.4.3: [Ubuntu 9.04 (linux-gnu, 
i486) @ 2009-04-21 13:18:25 UTC]
[Info  22:32:38.344] All services are started 1.913704s
[Info  22:32:39.796] nereid Client Started
Stacktrace:

  at (wrapper managed-to-native) 
Gtk.Widget.gtksharp_widget_base_delete_event (intptr,intptr) 0x4
  at (wrapper managed-to-native) 
Gtk.Widget.gtksharp_widget_base_delete_event (intptr,intptr) 0x
  at Gtk.Widget.OnDeleteEvent (Gdk.Event) 0x00030
  at Banshee.Gui.BaseClientWindow.OnDeleteEvent (Gdk.Event) 0x00063
  at Gtk.Widget.deleteevent_cb (intptr,intptr) 0x0004f
  at (wrapper native-to-managed) Gtk.Widget.deleteevent_cb 
(intptr,intptr) 0x
  at (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application.gtk_main () 0x4
  at (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application.gtk_main () 0x
  at Gtk.Application.Run () 0x7
  at Banshee.Gui.GtkBaseClient.Run () 0x00035
  at Banshee.Gui.GtkBaseClient.Startup () 0x00031
  at Hyena.Gui.CleanRoomStartup.Startup 
(Hyena.Gui.CleanRoomStartup/StartupInvocationHandler) 0x000a2
  at Banshee.Gui.GtkBaseClient.Startup () 0x00038
  at Banshee.Gui.GtkBaseClient.Startup (string[]) 0x000b9
  at Nereid.Client.Main (string[]) 0xa
  at (wrapper runtime-invoke) Nereid.Client.runtime_invoke_void_string[] 
(object,intptr,intptr,intptr) 0x
  at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly 
(System.Reflection.Assembly,string[]) 0x4
  at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly 
(System.Reflection.Assembly,string[]) 0x
  at System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssemblyInternal 
(System.Reflection.Assembly,string[]) 0x00028
  at System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly 
(string,System.Security.Policy.Evidence,string[]) 0x00021
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) 
System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly 
(string,System.Security.Policy.Evidence,string[]) 0x
  at System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly (string) 0x00014
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) 
System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly (string) 0x
  at Booter.Booter.BootClient (string) 0x00055
  at Booter.Booter.Main () 0x00188
  at (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.Object.runtime_invoke_void 
(object,intptr,intptr,intptr) 0x

Native stacktrace:

mono [0x806d944]
mono [0x808616b]
[0xb8077410]

/usr/lib/mono/gtk-sharp-2.0/libgtksharpglue-2.so(gtksharp_widget_base_delete_event+0x2f)
 
[0xb5610b8f]
[0xad1a9e66]
[0xad1a9e11]
[0xad1c54d4]
[0xad1c5420]
[0xb563ab48]
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6bb2526]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb66623d9]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x1ab) [0xb6663c7b]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb6679aff]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x64f) [0xb667b34f]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x26) [0xb667b936]
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6ccd2ae]
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_main_do_event+0x49c) [0xb6bac4dc]
/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6a3934a]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_context_dispatch+0x1e8) [0xb7ff0b88]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 [0xb7ff40eb]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_loop_run+0x1ca) [0xb7ff45ba]
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_main+0xb9) [0xb6bac7d9]
[0xb460d70e]
[0xb460d6d8]
[0xb460d4b6]
[0xb72228a2]
[0xb722278b]
[0xb72226a9]
[0xb721a412]
[0xb72165c3]
[0xb7216553]
mono(mono_runtime_exec_main+0xe5) [0x80bad75]
[0xb72164fd]
[0xb7216421]
[0xb721631a]
[0xb72162c6]
[0xb721623d]
[0xb72161fa]
[0xb721533e]
[0xb79f93a9]
[0xb79f91ae]
mono(mono_runtime_exec_main+0xe5) [0x80bad75]
mono(mono_runtime_run_main+0x16b) [0x80bb4eb]
mono(mono_main+0x1727) [0x805c917]
mono [0x805ac62]
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7e09775]
mono [0x805aba1]

Debug info from gdb:

(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb7dbf6e0 (LWP 4686)]
[New Thread 0xaea18b90 (LWP 4702)]
[New Thread 0xaf219b90 (LWP 4701)]
[New Thread 0xb42beb90 (LWP 4699)]
[New Thread 0xb5f54b90 (LWP 4698)]
[New Thread 0xb42ffb90 (LWP 4697)]
[New Thread 0xb4db7b90 (LWP 4693)]
[New Thread 0xb4ebcb90 (LWP 4692)]
[New Thread 0xb4fbdb90 (LWP 4691)]
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[ubuntu-uk] New GDM login screens for 9.10

2009-08-13 Thread Liam Wilson
For those who haven't seen them, the new boot/login screens have been 
unveiled  by the art team. I think the do look rather darn sweet!

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New GDM login screens for 9.10

2009-08-13 Thread Liam Wilson
James Milligan wrote:
 Rob Beard wrote:
   
 Alan Pope wrote:
   
 
 2009/8/13 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
   
 
   
 Liam Wilson wrote:
 
   
 
 For those who haven't seen them, the new boot/login screens have been
 unveiled  by the art team. I think the do look rather darn sweet!

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo

   
 
   
 Ooh I like that, very polished.

 
   
 
 From what I've seen that's not the final version, but a demo that was
 put to the art team.

 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-August/011206.html

   
 
   
 Will Ubuntu 9.10 be implementing Plymouth or will it still use USplash?

 
   
 
 Neither AIUI.

 We'll have X start very early on and that will provide the splash
 screen type experience. So no need for usplash or plymouth.

 Cheers,
 Al.

   
 
   
 I see, well it certainly looks very nice anyway, much better than the 
 Windows boot screens.

 Rob
   
 
 +1!!!

 James

   
I read that it uses xSplash, not Usplash or Plymouth, which I guess has 
something to do with X, and it not being a separate application/process, 
which may reduce boot times or some other technical stuff. It does look 
pretty amazing though.

What's the new notifications like?

Liam

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7

2009-07-07 Thread Liam Wilson
Liam Wilson wrote:
 David King wrote:
 That's all the more reason for people to switch to a free alternative 
 like Ubuntu.


 David King



 John Matthews wrote:
  
  
   
 Yeh, but its costing us, MS are charging the EU almost a 1/3rd more 
 than elsewhere for W7 upgrades. It seems that MS are going to make 
 us pay for that.

 John.

   
  
   
 Well, it doesn't concern me in the slightest. I haven't touched a 
 windows box in the past month or two, and the box I do have running 
 windows won't run anything other than XP not even vista or Ubuntu. 
 Still, all the more reason to switch to Linux or use Firefox :)

 Liam Wilson



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Liam Wilson
Just out of curiosity, Paul, How old is the Hard drive your using?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7

2009-06-13 Thread Liam Wilson
Rob Beard wrote:
 Dave Morley wrote:
   
 It maybe a none essential upgrade that MS could have.  In Vista they do
 this for driver updates.
   
 
 That's true, they seem to bundle other apps in Windows Update on Vista 
 and Windows 7 and it doesn't use Internet Explorer at all as far as I 
 can tell.  Not to mention in IE7/8 they do offer alternative search 
 engines which downloads something from Microsoft so I guess there is 
 nothing stopping Microsoft putting maybe a 'wrapper' program for 
 alternative browsers in there, a bit like the Ubuntu Flash package 
 automatically downloads Flash from Adobe.

 I guess this though is assuming Microsoft will actually put any effort 
 into it.  They could just say that the customers are on their own if 
 they want it, they have to supply it themselves?

 Rob


   
Personally, I feel sorry for those going to do a fresh install of 
Vista7, because how are you supposed to download a browser without a 
browser? I'm guessing that they'll out in a program a bit like the 
'Download Windows Live Messenger' app that they have with Vista, which I 
think is a bit unfair. I think it'll be time for Mozilla to do a bit of 
marketing if they can.

Liam

FTP? 

wnload a browser to use without the use of a browser anyway? I

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