Re: [ubuntu-uk] Script to dd from an SD card only partitioned area

[Neil Greenwood]

On 19 September 2016 21:07:13 BST, Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 19 September 2016 at 20:13, Neil Greenwood
><neil.greenwood@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry for the top post, I'm on my phone.
>>
>> I think partimage does what you want already. Clonezilla gives a
>(very
>> slightly) friendlier front end, but I've not used either for several
>> years...
>
>I believe partimage does not handle ext4 which would be a problem (at
>least that is what [1] says)
>

You are right. It looks like it may work with ext4, but it's not supported. 
fsarchiver is an alternative that does support ext4 and is written by the 
partimage developer. 

>I had thought about clonezilla and will have another look at it. The
>last time I used it (which was some time ago) it seemed overly
>complex, but perhaps I just need to put a bit more effort in to see
>how to use it from a script.
>

Clonezilla definitely supports ext4, using partclone which may be more easily 
scripted... 

>Thanks
>
>Colin
>
>
>[1] https://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Script to dd from an SD card only partitioned area

[Neil Greenwood]

Sorry for the top post, I'm on my phone. 

I think partimage does what you want already. Clonezilla gives a (very 
slightly) friendlier front end, but I've not used either for several years... 


Neil 

On 19 September 2016 17:49:44 BST, Colin Law  wrote:
>On 19 September 2016 at 17:18, Robert McWilliam 
>wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, at 14:21, Colin Law wrote:
>>> I do a fair amount of work with SD cards and use dd to create an
>image
>>> for backup or for burning onto other cards. If I burn an image from
>an
>>> 8GB card onto a 16GB card then I get a card which is only half used.
>>> If I then make an image from that one then I get a 16GB image (of
>>> which only 8GB or less is partitioned) which is larger than it needs
>>> to be and also if I burn that onto another 8GB card then it fails as
>>> the card is not large enough (or at least it says it has failed, the
>>> card will in fact be ok).
>>
>> You can copy a single partition by pointing dd at the partition
>rather
>> than the device, e.g. sda1 rather than sda. I expect that would
>achieve
>> the same thing as  giving dd offset and size that you can get from
>fdisk
>> (but less likely to get those wrong).
>>
>> Neither approach will give you an image that you can (reliably) put
>back
>> onto a card with (just) dd. It won't include the partition table.
>
>Is not the partition table in the space before the first partition? So
>in the example I posted where I had
>
>Device Boot  Start End Sectors Size Id Type
>/dev/sdb1 8192  137215  129024  63M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
>/dev/sdb2   137216 4233215 4096000   2G 83 Linux
>
>is not the partition table in sectors 0 to 8191? So if I copy sectors
>0 to 2333215 that should include the partition table and all the
>partitions.  Is that not correct?
>
>> It
>> will work if the destination card is partitioned the same as the
>source
>> and you write to the same offset, or if you've got a partition the
>same
>> size and you update the offset to hit that, but otherwise you'd need
>to
>> update the partition table (and other partitions) to make an
>> appropriately sized gap for it and then write to that.
>>
>> I think it's better to look at what you're trying to do, and see if
>dd
>> is the right tool. I can understand wanting to use dd for archiving
>or
>> backing up cards since it'll also catch things that have been deleted
>or
>> lost to filesystem corruption that you can then (try to) recover once
>> you've noticed that something is missing. I'm less convinced it's a
>good
>> idea going the other way; it causes the problems you're seeing when
>> sizes aren't the same and it means you're writing more to the cards
>than
>> you need to. I think you'd be better to mount the image file and copy
>> the files across to the card.
>
>To do it that way I believe I would have to write a script to pick up
>the partition info from the original card, mount and copy the files in
>each partition, and save the partition info with the files. Then to
>restore it I would need a script to re-partition the new card and copy
>the files across to each partition.
>
>Colin
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network Enlightenment

[Neil Greenwood]

On 17 November 2015 18:55:16 GMT+00:00, Stuart Ward  wrote:
>On 17 November 2015 at 16:34, Matt Wheeler  wrote:
>
>> internet <--- (x.x.x.x :router A: 192.168.0.1) <--- (192.168.0.2
>> :router B: 192.168.1.1) <--- (wireless devices)
>>
>>
>What you should do is turn off DHCP and NAT on router B and give that
>router a fixed IP address on Router A, Then all your devices will be on
>the
>same subnet.
>
>Router A
>IP 192.168.1.1
>DHCP on addresses 192.168.1.10-192.168.1.254
>
>Router B
>IP 192.168.1.2
>DHCP off
>

To get this working properly, you might need to configure Router B to forward 
the DHCP packets to Router A, rather than just disabling DHCP. 

That's what I had to do with my very similar configuration. 


Neil 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues

[Neil Greenwood]

On 29 January 2015 10:53:10 GMT+00:00, Gareth France 
gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk wrote:
I have gotten along just fine since 2006 without having to touch a 
non-Ubuntu system. If it is possible I like to keep it that way. It 
works for me and every time I am forced to use a Windows system it 
hammers home exactly why I stopped using them.

The version of Adobe Reader I'm using is working nicely. Now if only I 
could find a replacement for HMRC...

Unfortunately their helpline is an 0845 number so I can't call them
(the 
only phone I have is a pay as you go mobile) otherwise I would have a 
bit of a go.


www.saynoto0870.com has a list of alternatives to lots of 08xx numbers. Try 
that. 


Neil

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Icons go missing ...

[Neil Greenwood]

On 12 January 2015 13:42:57 GMT+00:00, George DiceGeorge 
dicegeo...@hotmail.com wrote:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-15-04-Gets-Linux-Kernel-3-18-467083.shtml
Ubuntu 15.04 (Vidid Vervet) is now under development and this is a time
when new features and components are added to the distribution. The
same is true for the Linux kernel, which has been updated to version
3.18.

... It's still unstable and it can prove to be quite unstable in this
particular stage or the development cycle, 


I think the OP is trying to assist in this development process by the early 
reporting of regressions, rather than actively trying to use an unstable 
version for day-to-day use. 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automating find and replace

[Neil Greenwood]

On 17 September 2014 22:31:28 BST, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 September 2014 20:47, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com
wrote:


  Not helpful for solving the immediate problem I know, but for the
 future the issue would be easy to solve if you kept a master copy of
 your source in a version control system such as git.  Then if the
site
 becomes compromised you can just replace it with the correct code.
 Git is trivially easy to setup and start using.

 Colin

  I have taken a quick peek and it says git-hub is free for public,
open
 source projects. I of course require private hosting as I wouldn't
want
 people to peek behind my site. So is there a free option for doing
this? I
 really don't have a budget for doing this sort of thing.


Gitlab [1] is an open source alternative to Github and has unlimited
free
private repositories. It is not as full featured as Github especially
in
the team collaboration area but is more than enough for your use case.
It
takes 5 minutes to create a repo and the only gotcha is how to generate
an
SSH key to let git interact with it, which is explained in their help
pages
[2]. If you need more help with git, the git book [3] is available
online
for free.

Using a VCS like git takes a bit of practice but once you're used to
it, it
is very liberating to know that you always have a golden master and
that
you can roll back any changes should you need to.

[1] https://gitlab.com/
[2] https://gitlab.com/help/ssh/ssh.md
[3] http://git-scm.com/book

Bruno


I recommend the Git book, when you have several hours free.

I also recommend making lots of commits. I keep forgetting to commit often 
enough, then it's a bit of a pain to split up the changes I've made into the 
right commits. You can easily join multiple commits into one bigger one, but it 
can be tricky to split a larger change up into smaller bits.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Comparing installed packages

[Neil Greenwood]

On 4 May 2014 13:39:40 GMT+01:00, Joe Alam yothsogg...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

There's probably a far better way that someone with some more
experience
will suggest, but the first thing that came to mind is to write a
little
program/script that does the following:

- read all the files, into their own list of packages
- combine the lists, filling a list of package names, sorted in
alphabetical order and removing duplicates
- iterate through the combined list, for each package check each of the
four individual lists and if it is in there output it, otherwise leave
a
space

That should achieve it in a fairly simple way, and can be done with any
language.

Best of luck,
Joe
On 4 May 2014 13:29, Mark Fraser mfraz74+ubu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got 4 computers here that I would like to compare the installed
 packages
 on each one together. I've done dpkg --get-selection  installed.txt
on
 each
 computer, but now I'm trying to merge each one into a single file and
 leave a
 space where a package isn't installed.

 Instead of:
 Acpi-support acpi-support   Acpi-supportacpi-support
 adduser acroreadadduser
 adduser
 Adobereader-enu acroread-binadobereader-enu adobereader-enu


 I'd like:
 Acpi-support acpi-support   Acpi-supportacpi-support
  acroread
  acroread-bin
 adduser
adduser
   adduser
 Adobereader-enu adobereader-enu
 adobereader-enu

 Any ideas how to achieve this?

My first idea was to try Libre Office Calc. Import the files into separate 
sheets, cut 'n' paste to 4 columns on one sheet, scan down manually and insert 
a cell where necessary. 

So it depends how good your scripting is whether you follow Joe's suggestion, 
or go with the more manual process I've suggested. It also depends how often 
you intend to do the process. If it's just a one-off, don't script it unless 
you enjoy the challenge. 

I would also suggest ignoring the automatically installed dependencies from the 
list of packages - aptitude search ~i!?automatic should do the trick... 

Of course, if you are feeling particularly masochistic, you could try to 
automate the whole thing in sed! :-)



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] where does flash store it's temporary files?

[Neil Greenwood]

On 18 April 2014 11:31:40 GMT+01:00, Peter Smout smoutp...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/04/14 11:26, Simon Greenwood wrote:



 On 18 April 2014 11:20, Peter Smout smoutp...@gmail.com
 mailto:smoutp...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 18/04/14 11:03, Simon Greenwood wrote:




 On 17 April 2014 17:12, Peter Smout smoutp...@gmail.com
 mailto:smoutp...@gmail.com
 mailto:smoutp...@gmail.com mailto:smoutp...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Hi,

  Still trying to investigate the memory leak in the
thread My
  thoughts confirmed, and I'm trying to find where the
 flash-plug-in
  stores it's temp files.

  I've looked in /tmp and can see nothing that looks like
a
 .flv video
  (or part of) and I can see nothing in
/home/pete/.mozilla or
  /home/pete/.adobe

  Does anyone know where it downloads it's cache to?

  Or is there a CLI way of following the data (the tail
 command looks
  promising but I don't know what to tail!)


 I seem to recall that swf files are cached in their browser
config
 directory but also that they're compiled to bytecode so you
 might not be
 able to identify them.

 The best command tool to start with would be lsof, which
should
 show you
 open files. I have a feeling that you might find that a
plugin
 library
 is causing the problem but that it runs inside the browser so
isn't
 visible to the OS.

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 Hi,

 lsof gives unknown command ls -of the same!


 Odd, it's a standard Linux command. How about /usr/bin/lsof?

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pete@petes-lappy:~$ /usr/bin/lsof
bash: /usr/bin/lsof: No such file or directory
pete@petes-lappy:~$ lsof
bash: lsof: command not found

Just to confirm, the command in uppercase is LSOF, but you type it in lowercase 
to run it. I just wanted to check that it wasn't a confusion caused by a sans 
font... 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ending Dual-Boot

[Neil Greenwood]

On 10 March 2014 16:38:47 GMT, Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 March 2014 16:38, Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote:

 dpkg -l | grep '^i'

 --

 dpkg -l (lowercase L) lists all packages that are installed or
otherwise
 known to the system (such as those packages you've removed but not
purged).
 To filter the list to just installed packages we pipe the output
(that's
 the | character which is shift+\) to grep which checks for lines
beginning
 (^) with the letter i which is what dpkg -l outputs for installed
 packages.


 On 9 March 2014 17:34, Peter Smout smoutp...@gmail.com wrote:


sorry, I failed and top-posted :-(

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You probably want to exclude automatically installed dependencies from the list 
of packages, otherwise you lose the ability of the tools to tidy up the things 
you're not using for you. 

I can't remember how to do it just with dpkg - I have a script that uses 
aptitude to get the list of packages for me. IIRC you want an i in the first 
column and not an A in the second, so the grep would be 

grep i[^A] 

I have another script that runs through all installed packages and tries to 
mark them as auto installed. Any that would cause something to be uninstalled 
are written to a list. This list is then the minimum set of packages to install 
to re-create the package collection. Plus you get a system where auto remove 
works nicely! 

Although one thing you need to watch for is that you don't uninstall something 
you still want when removing a package... 

I'll dig the scripts out later and post links to paste bin.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ending Dual-Boot

[Neil Greenwood]

On 11 March 2014 07:08:03 GMT, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com 
wrote:


On 10 March 2014 16:38:47 GMT, Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 10 March 2014 16:38, Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote:

 dpkg -l | grep '^i'

 --

 dpkg -l (lowercase L) lists all packages that are installed or
otherwise
 known to the system (such as those packages you've removed but not
purged).
 To filter the list to just installed packages we pipe the output
(that's
 the | character which is shift+\) to grep which checks for lines
beginning
 (^) with the letter i which is what dpkg -l outputs for installed
 packages.


 On 9 March 2014 17:34, Peter Smout smoutp...@gmail.com wrote:


sorry, I failed and top-posted :-(

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You probably want to exclude automatically installed dependencies from
the list of packages, otherwise you lose the ability of the tools to
tidy up the things you're not using for you. 

I can't remember how to do it just with dpkg - I have a script that
uses aptitude to get the list of packages for me. IIRC you want an i in
the first column and not an A in the second, so the grep would be 

grep i[^A] 

I have another script that runs through all installed packages and
tries to mark them as auto installed. Any that would cause something to
be uninstalled are written to a list. This list is then the minimum set
of packages to install to re-create the package collection. Plus you
get a system where auto remove works nicely! 

Although one thing you need to watch for is that you don't uninstall
something you still want when removing a package... 

I'll dig the scripts out later and post links to paste bin.


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Sorry to reply to myself... 

I forgot the ^ to anchor the grep pattern to the start of the line. D'oh! 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 103, Issue 2

[Neil Greenwood]

On 5 Nov 2013 22:59, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:



 Cheers, guys, maybe you're right, I might need to up my game a bit in
the Shell script stakes at least (and with aliases).

 To answer the question of why I need so much history - I forget stuff!

 I'd never be a programmer (I reckon) as I forget things - the command
history is a reminder of the syntax I've used previously - it's also a
reminder of what I've actually done - like a paper trail. As I am learning
the commands and their syntax, the history is creating a document of my
learning, in a way. An example was in setting up a VPN and installing some
CMSes purely with the command line - I look up the syntax for SCP and stuff
but forget it when I've not used it for a while . So next time I want to
set up a new SQL database I can look at my history to help me do it again
without researching it all over again. Also, I get in the zone sometimes -
looking up stuff and learning etc - so I can't remember how I got there
even!!

 Maybe I should just install Webmin!!

 ;)

 PS This is my first (brave) attempt at inline posting - I hope it
formats well.

 Thanks again for your tips though!!


 In that case you'd be much better off keeping a Google document with the
things that you need to remember pasted into it. Easier to search too.


You do know how to search the history without opening the file in an
editor, don't you? Otherwise even 1000 commands is too many!

CTRL-R will start an interactive search in reverse, so as you type more
characters from the command you're looking for it will search further back.
And using an exclamation mark followed by some characters will repeat the
last command starting with those characters, e.g. !ls will repeat the last
directory list command.

Search through the bash man page for history expansion to find lots more
shortcuts.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] fsck during boot

[Neil Greenwood]

On 3 Oct 2013 19:44, Mark Fraser mfraz74+ubu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I realised the other day that I hadn't seen my computer run fsck during
boot
 for quite a while. Running dumpe2fs I get this:
 Mount count:  220
 Maximum mount count:  -1
 Last checked: Wed Mar 20 21:20:51 2013

 I understand that I can run
 tune2fs -c 35
 To get it to check every 35 mounts, but do I have to do this when the
 partition is unmounted?

 Not even sure why it has been set up this was as I don't remember
changing it.


You can run that tune2fs command while the partition is mounted without
problem. It will then take effect on the next boot.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

[Neil Greenwood]

On 14 Sep 2013 07:00, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote:

 On 2013-09-13 17:10, Kris Douglas wrote:
  I get my handsets from Three. They come with about 1 app and once
Android
  is rooted you can remove it or put a custom ROM on.
 
  I also benefit from quick, easy replacement of the handset should
something
  go wrong, rather than dealing directly with the manufacturer.

 Those are valid points. Although I think many of us have not experienced
 this quick, easy replacement program with other providers. :)

 I don't buy my handset from the manufacturer, although I'm aware that some
 people buy Google handsets directly from them. I usually use eBay or
Amazon
 for my handsets.


And Amazon are really good about replacing a handset if necessary.

Mine got bricked by an over the air update and they sent a new one
immediately, telling me to return the faulty one free of charge in the
packaging after it arrived.

As someone in work put it, you can have great customer service *or* a
company that pays UK tax... :-(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

[Neil Greenwood]

On 12 Sep 2013 11:29, Pete Smout smoutp...@gmail.com wrote:

 [snip]
 I agree, $700 is a lot for untested software, I would happily install
alongside Android, even at beta test stage, but I will not pay a months
rent for the privalige! I hope the project lives on but feel that a major
error of judgment was made setting the price point, and perhaps a tie in
with manufacturer / service provider was a better route to take.
 I don't know anyone who buys their handset, they are bundled up with
their service contract.


Umm, me.

I haven't bought a handset on contract for more than 5 years now. I have a
SIM-only contract with 3, and got my last few handsets from amazon or eBay.

There are about a dozen others in my office who do the same. But then we
are gadget geeks!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] proxy settings with log in for package manager?

[Neil Greenwood]

On 8 September 2013 08:07, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés
a75...@alumni.tecnun.eswrote:

 El 07/09/2013 21:11, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com
 escribió:
  On 6 September 2013 15:51, Andrés Muñiz Piniella andre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 [snip]
  I finally came up the solution: looking up in askubuntu [1] it seems I
  need my username and password on a plain text file the
 
  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
 
  [snip]


  I need to use a proxy, but I don't have to authenticate. This is the
 correct place to store the configuration. Bear in mind that this file is
 only readable by root, so the credentials aren't at much risk.

 I was pretty sure i was able to read it with nano without root. But I will
 check. Thanks for the piece of mind.


 OK, I wasn't quite correct in what I said. When you created your file in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d, it was probably created using your default permissions
setting. However, in order to work for the proxy authentication, it only
needs to be readable by root. So after creating it, you can 'chmod go-rwx
filename' and 'sudo chown root: filename' to protect it. I actually
prefer using octal numeric permissions with chmod, which would be 400 in
this case.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] proxy settings with log in for package manager?

[Neil Greenwood]

On 6 September 2013 15:51, Andrés Muñiz Piniella andre...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using kubuntu 12.04 but it should be a cross platform problem I think.

 The problem I had was that the proxy was not letting me get online.
 I changed the proxy settings via the network settings GUI and it was
 all fine for rekonq web browser but muon (the package manager) did not
 update .

 Of course it did not tell me it was the proxy setting (I do not think
 it could tell me) it just told me that I could not reach such and such
 web pages.

 I finally came up the solution: looking up in askubuntu [1] it seems I
 need my username and password on a plain text file the

 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/

 Is this solution the best? is there a more elegant solution?
 Also, it keeps asking me for my username and password to use the web
 browser but does not do this for package manager. I much rather have
 it ask me for username and password on both aplications. Rather than
 having my username and password written in plain text.


  Or is this the normal way things work and I should not be too fussed
 about it?


I need to use a proxy, but I don't have to authenticate. This is the
correct place to store the configuration. Bear in mind that this file is
only readable by root, so the credentials aren't at much risk.



 Also, when using apt-get it finds the packages fine now but it is
 telling me that some of the files are not authentificated and that I
 should not trust them. It is a fresh install and I have not set any
 PPA. I was only installing gimp and gwyddion which normally do not
 give me any problems.


If you update the list of packages, it will get the keys that are missing
and everything will be authenticated again.


 Thanks for any pointers!

 [1] http://askubuntu.com/questions/23666/apt-get-does-not-work-with-proxy



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[ubuntu-uk] Saucy and unity-common

[Neil Greenwood]

Hi all,

Is anyone else using Saucy yet? A few days ago I was presented with a unity
update that won't install because of a conflict between libunity-core-6.0-7
and unity-common 7.0.2+13.10.20130705.1-0ubuntu1

The proposed solution is to remove unity-common. I left out a few days to
see if it was a temporary issue. Should I remove unity-common?

I tried Google and came up blank...

Thanks for any suggestions,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Saucy and unity-common

[Neil Greenwood]

That wants to remove unity and ubuntu-desktop and...

I still see a candidate version for unity-common, even though I've just
done an update. Hmm, I wonder if it's because I'm using aptitude instead of
apt-get.

OK, that is much better!

Thanks for the reassurance, and the prompting to sort it all out.

Neil
On 23 Jul 2013 13:39, J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23 July 2013 13:29, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Is anyone else using Saucy yet? A few days ago I was presented with a
 unity
  update that won't install because of a conflict between
 libunity-core-6.0-7
  and unity-common 7.0.2+13.10.20130705.1-0ubuntu1
 
  The proposed solution is to remove unity-common. I left out a few days to
  see if it was a temporary issue. Should I remove unity-common?

 I took the plunge and removed unity-common a couple of weeks ago (I
 have a number of staging PPAs enabled). The package itself is no
 longer available in the saucy repos (check $ apt-cache policy
 unity-common), so I'd go ahead and remove it!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Saucy and unity-common

[Neil Greenwood]

On 23 Jul 2013 16:26, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote:

 That wants to remove unity and ubuntu-desktop and...

 I still see a candidate version for unity-common, even though I've just
done an update. Hmm, I wonder if it's because I'm using aptitude instead of
apt-get.

 OK, that is much better!

 Thanks for the reassurance, and the prompting to sort it all out.

 Neil


Bah! Sorry for the top-post. Stupid phone gmail app, and associated user
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deja-dup [lucky] backup

[Neil Greenwood]

On 31 May 2013 17:47, J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 31 May 2013 16:14, Grant Phillips-Sewell
 dcg...@phillips-sewell.co.uk wrote:
  then there are tools out there

 [citation needed]

  which can scan each
  block/sector of your drive to find the remnants of previous partition
  structures, optionally re-write your partition table back to what it
found,
  and then there are tools to recover filesystems after this. It can be a
  long, drawn out process... or it can take 10 minutes, depending on the
size
  of the drive, the amount of data and the amount of destruction.
 

 But seriously, what do you recommend? It's useful to know before these
 things are needed. :)

 J


Testdisk and/or photorec.

There are even dedicated live distros that specialise i'n disk recovery, as
far as I remember.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

[Neil Greenwood]

Hi Patrick,

To return to your original request about Java, Oracle have prevented it
being easily available in distributions' own package managers because of a
license change. There's a PPA that gives you easy access to the latest
versions of Java 6, 7 and 8.  If you go to
https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java it has instructions on how
to install and use the PPA.

HTH,
Neil
On 15 May 2013 16:52, surfer pmul...@gofast.co.uk wrote:

 I have just updated my system to 12.10.

 I have been looking for both recent versions of Java and Postgresql, but
 cannot find a key or lock that I can use to download them. Before I used
 Synaptec, which seems no longer to exist.

 I wonder if somebody could assist me

 Many thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cranky old Rhythmbox

[Neil Greenwood]

Top- posting because the rest of the thread is...

I have rhythmbox running fine in 13.04, with 6000+ tracks (not sure how
many albums). I've had it open since I booted, about 2 weeks ago. I suspend
every night too. Plays fine, although I have seen problems like those
mentioned previously.

Neil.

On 10 May 2013 15:19, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 I use gmail, so it all appears in the correct order to me. I believe
there is a seperate thread on the way email clients work.

 As Rhythmbox is searching my music collection, I don't want to stress the
computer out too much - It's using 100% of one of my two CPU's.

 I'll have a look at what is needed for 2.99 and let you know.

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On 10 May 2013 15:08, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:

 H'mm. I've also tried reinstalling from the repository, using Synaptic,
and it doesn't make any difference, and looking at it, the thing in the
repository is also 2.98. But if I was to download 2.99 from the FTP page
you indicated, wouldn't I have to do all the configuration manually? That
would be totally beyond me. By the way, we shouldn't be top posting like
this. It forces people to read the conversation from bottom to top as well
as from top to bottom.


 On 10/05/13 14:44, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 13.04 has installed 2.98 have a check on 'help -- about

 Regards,

 Phill


 On 10 May 2013 14:42, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to that ftp page, 2.99 was the last version they made before
they stopped, evidently imagining it was as perfect as it could ever be. I
assume that's what I've got, because I assume that's what's delivered in
the complete Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit ISO, which is what I have installed.


 On 10/05/13 14:21, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 Just while I install it and vlc, it is time to ask the usual silly
question... So do forgive me!

 Have you got the latest version from
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/rhythmbox/

 I'm a VLC fan, but have had rhythmbox running well in the past with a
large library.

 Regards,

 Phill.
 P.S. this is a clean 13.04 lubuntu install, so I need to 'add' things
to it :)

 On 10 May 2013 14:07, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/05/13 13:55, Alan Pope wrote:

 On 10/05/13 13:33, Rowan Berkeley wrote:

 I find that in 13.04 (though not as far as I can recall,
previously), it
 is impossible to leave Rhythmbox running after use, ie for instance
 having played an album to leave it running and an hour later to
try to
 play another one. It goes berzerk. Most usually it will skip
through
 tracks at great speed,


 That sounds like your media is on a mounted / removable device
which has since gone away / been unmounted? The skipping through tracks is
often when it says ok, what track is next, lets play it, oh, it's gone,
ok, next track..  etc.

 Cheers,

 I don't mean it looks for them one after another in rapid succession
and doesn't find them; I mean it literally skips through each track,
jumping e.g. thirty seconds at a time. But this is just the commonest
immediate symptom of a general haywireness that sets in if it has been left
running but idle for more than a few minutes. By the way, AFAIK, I only
have this on one of my three machines, but they are all identically set up,
with completely fresh installs of 13.04 and then all files, including the
1850+ albums, reloaded from an external hard drive. This takes an hour or
two for each fresh install, but it gives me maximum free space, so I do it
happily, rather than install the new versions keeping the old files and
settings.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DSL provider

[Neil Greenwood]

On 7 May 2013 08:44, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 7 May 2013 08:36, TT Mooney ttmoo...@dilettantism.com wrote:

 Hi all -

 I've been a happy user of O2 broadband for years, but now that Murdoch
has laid his hands on it, I want to change provider.

 Does anyone have a recommendation? I used to have BT, and they were
mostly useless. There is a bit of bittorent going on, so I'm looking for an
uncapped adsl2 service. Virgin Media is not available in my area.


 I've moved to PlusNet for fibre and their ADSL offerings might be worth a
look. If nothing else, they're honest about their traffic shaping
(practically all ISPs do it, they publish their prioritisations on their
website). They're owned by BT but their support and infrastructure remain
separate.

+1 for Plus Net from me too. I've had to phone their tech support a couple
of times, and the first Tech's you speak to are very knowledgeable. They
quickly go off-script and aren't phased by Linux clients.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DSL provider

[Neil Greenwood]

On 7 May 2013 15:12, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote:

 On 07/05/13 08:36, TT Mooney wrote:

 I've been a happy user of O2 broadband for years, but now that
 Murdoch has laid his hands on it, I want to change provider.
 Does anyone have a recommendation?


 +1 for PlusNet Fibre.

 Local firm (oop 'ere, any road - they're based in Sheffield) with local
tech support, who are knowledgeable, friendly, and flexible (especially
when they spot that you are a bit competent).

 Great communication systems that keep you fully informed and updated
about your account queries and support tickets.  (Not that I've needed much
of either - rock solid service with good performance.)

 mac

I agree. My only problems have been with adsl congestion from the street
cab. They might start by asking if you've rebooted Windows or purged your
browser cache, but mention ping or traceroute and they get much more
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network proxies and PAC files

[Neil Greenwood]

On May 1, 2013 5:49 PM, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com
wrote:


 On May 1, 2013 5:27 PM, Alan Jenkins alan.james.jenk...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
  Foxyproxy is a good plugin for firefox if you cannot get the PAC file
working. That allows setting exceptions and redirecting to different
proxies based on regular expressions.
 

 I've used foxyproxy in the past, but I don't think it's particularly easy
to copy the settings between machines. At least, I haven't found an easy
way...

I've filed bug #1175479 about this issue, so hopefully I can get some help
from the developers and help them in return.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dixons/PC World response

[Neil Greenwood]

On May 1, 2013 1:28 PM, Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote:

 When I last mentioned Linux in PC World it was quite obvious that the
assistant had never heard of it. Now that most PC World shops are
integrated with Currys, there are staff with apparently little experience
on the PC side. They may know a lot about fridges and hoovers but not IT.
Maybe that will improve with time.

 Perhaps if enough people ask about Linux drivers and support, even if we
already know the answer, the message might slowly get through.

 As an aside, when I told an assistant in a Tesco mega-store that I would
be installing Linux on a laptop I was considering buying, his response was
I wouldn't do that, Sir. Linux has a reputation for burning out hard
disks.


I hope you complained about that comment!

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[ubuntu-uk] Network proxies and PAC files

[Neil Greenwood]

Hi,
I'm having a problem with Ubuntu in work when I try to use a PAC file to
configure the proxy. The result is that the http_proxy variable is not set,
and everything tries to connect directly. Does anyone have any idea how I
could try to debug this?

By the way, the same file works perfectly for all the windows machines, so
I doubt it's a syntax error but it is a possibility.

I downloaded the source for libproxy, but I can't easily see where to start
- my C++ is very limited, I'm a Java programmer.

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network proxies and PAC files

[Neil Greenwood]

On May 1, 2013 4:16 PM, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 1 May 2013 16:06, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm having a problem with Ubuntu in work when I try to use a PAC file to
configure the proxy. The result is that the http_proxy variable is not set,
and everything tries to connect directly. Does anyone have any idea how I
could try to debug this?

 By the way, the same file works perfectly for all the windows machines,
so I doubt it's a syntax error but it is a possibility.

 I downloaded the source for libproxy, but I can't easily see where to
start - my C++ is very limited, I'm a Java programmer.

 It's been a while since I've needed one but Firefox used to honour
HTTP_PROXY when set as an environment variable so you could just set it in
your .profile. I think Chrome might not and a quick search seems to confirm
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Thanks for the suggestion, Simon. I have internet access working by
manually setting the proxy. However, the PAC file is about 50 lines long
with exceptions including various subnets. I haven't been able to use
no_proxy with CIDRs, so I'd prefer to get the PAC working if possible,
especially since there are 40+ other Ubuntu users in the same office and it
would be nice if we could have the same experience as the few remaining
windows users!

Any other ideas?

Neil.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network proxies and PAC files

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On May 1, 2013 5:27 PM, Alan Jenkins alan.james.jenk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Foxyproxy is a good plugin for firefox if you cannot get the PAC file
working. That allows setting exceptions and redirecting to different
proxies based on regular expressions.


I've used foxyproxy in the past, but I don't think it's particularly easy
to copy the settings between machines. At least, I haven't found an easy
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless in 13.04

[Neil Greenwood]

Thanks for posting the solution.

Neil
On Apr 29, 2013 1:24 PM, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I posted a message to the effect that the procedure for reinstalling the
 Ralink RT3290 wireless driver, which worked on 12.10, doesn't work after
 online upgrade to 13.04. Since posting that, I found an online report at
 askubuntu.com which gave the exact same error messages as mine:
 http://askubuntu.com/**questions/285163/ralink-**rt3290-cant-be-installedhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/285163/ralink-rt3290-cant-be-installed

 I have found that the best solution is to put a copy of the 64-bit version
 of 13.04 on a USB stick then do a complete reinstall from the stick. If you
 do this, the Ralink RT3290 wireless driver will be found and configured
 correctly and permanently. But not when you use the online upgrade from the
 Ubuntu site. This is similar to the problem I had with the boot protect in
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Locking in the wireless drivers

[Neil Greenwood]

On Apr 23, 2013 9:22 PM, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote:

 On 2013-04-23 20:47, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
  Ah, yes, DKMS again, that explains it. Now if only we could just have
DKMS
  packaged up for automatic installation in the Synaptic package manager.
As
  it is, you need quite a bit of savvy to install DKMS, more than I've
got,
  for sure.

 You mean, like this?

 sudo apt-get install dkms

 ;)


No, that's not the solution. The package that contains the wireless driver
needs to be changed by its maintainer to use DKMS to core with kernel
changes.

Sorry if I missed some sarcasm, but I don't think your answer helped the OP.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] User Testing

[Neil Greenwood]

Umm, I'd suggest la...@lczajkowski.com

:-)

Neil
 On 18/03/13 17:22, Laura Czajkowski wrote:

 Aloha folks

 Wondering if there are 4 people on here who would like to do some user
 testing in the Bluefinn in London where Canonical is, must be available
 on the 2nd or 5th April.  It's only for an hour and you will be paid for
 it.  If you up for it, and in London, or willing to be in London that
 day, contact me off list.

 Thanks

 Laura


I'd love to do some testing, how do I reply to you off list though?

Gareth

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mouse scrolling in man pages

[Neil Greenwood]

With the ps command, I'm setting COLUMNS, not PAGER. Sorry for the
confusion.

The java processes I want to monitor have long command lines, so I set the
command to show 1000 columns so it doesn't truncate the output.

Neil.
On Mar 11, 2013 3:31 PM, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote:

 On 2013-03-08 15:14, Neil Greenwood wrote:
  PAGER=/bin/cat man command
 
  Don't include the export. Works a treat if you normally want the pager,
 but
  not for one command. I frequently use this to get full output from the ps
  command...

 In what situation does ps page the output? ps -ef, for instance, doesn't.

 Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mouse scrolling in man pages

[Neil Greenwood]

Ok, that works too, but

COLUMNS=1000 ps -ef

has a unique prefix in the history, so I can rerun it with

!C

Horses for courses...

Neil
On Mar 12, 2013 8:30 AM, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote:

 On 2013-03-12 06:53, Neil Greenwood wrote:
  With the ps command, I'm setting COLUMNS, not PAGER. Sorry for the
 confusion.
 
  The java processes I want to monitor have long command lines, so I set
 the
  command to show 1000 columns so it doesn't truncate the output.

 Consider:

 ps -ef | cat

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mouse scrolling in man pages

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On Mar 7, 2013 10:08 PM, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote:

 On 2013-03-07 18:12, Tony Pursell wrote:
  man command | cat
 
  where command is the command you want to browse, will dump everything to
  the terminal and you can scroll back up through it with the mouse wheel
(I
  hope),

 Put this in your .bashrc or .profile:

 export PAGER=/bin/cat

 Now paging programs like man will dump output direct to the terminal.


And you can set it just for one command by starting the command line with a
variable override:

PAGER=/bin/cat man command

Don't include the export. Works a treat if you normally want the pager, but
not for one command. I frequently use this to get full output from the ps
command...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mouse scrolling in man pages

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On Mar 7, 2013 8:29 PM, Jim Price d1vers...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On 07/03/13 18:12, Tony Pursell wrote:

 On 7 March 2013 16:49, Jim Price d1vers...@hotmail.com wrote:


 I'm using Gnome terminal in Mythbuntu 12.04 and mouse-wheel scrolling
 works fine for scrolling back and forward through terminal history, but
 whenever I view a manpage, the mouse wheel no longer scrolls. I've
Googled,
 and discovered that man uses less to display the pages, but all the
things
 I've tried from Googling have failed to solve the issue. I've tried
setting
 options using the LESS environment variable, lesskey, and played with
the
 scrolling settings in Gnome terminal, but all to no avail. The same
issue
 happens in XFCE terminal, so I think it might be something to do with
less
 rather than the terminal used. Can anyone suggest what might be
happening
 here or does anyone know of a solution?


 [snip]

 That's a reasonable workaround. Curiously the problem seems to have fixed
itself now, and I have no idea whether it's because of something I did or
not. I did do a re-install of gnome-terminal - maybe that did it.



I saw something that might explain this only today. I was looking at the
documentation for the terminator command that replaces gnome-terminal. It
mentions the separate buffer that vim, less and similar programs use. It
mentioned VTE, and how Ubuntu had patched the mouse wheel scrolling to make
it optional. Sorry I can't remember any more detail than that, but it might
give you some google-fodder...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

[Neil Greenwood]

Doesn't look like the swap is thrashing the disk - there's memory and swap
free, but I/O is blocking 56% of the CPU time. Next time it happens, try
getting the vmstat output that Alan suggested.

Neil.
On Feb 10, 2013 5:49 PM, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 07/02/13 18:54, Alan Pope wrote:

 On 07/02/13 15:55, Gareth France wrote:

 On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote:

 On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote:

 On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope 
 alan.p...@canonical.comalan.p...@canonical.comwrote:

 On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote:


 I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now!
 Memory 1.5Gb of 3.5Gb used
 Swap 658.9Mb of 3.7Gb used


 Using swap is not a problem. Swapping is the problem.


 It is unusual though to see half a gig in swap when less than half of
 the RAM is is use, is it not?  For example mine has been on all day
 and is still showing zero swap (I have 4GB RAM).  Does it not mean
 that at some point something has been using a lot?


 Not necessarily. It means some was _allocated_. Doesn't mean the box
 was swapping heavily. I am not inclined to take those numbers at face
 value. I'd rather see the first 10 lines from top pasted.

 Cheers,

 Ask and ye shall receive.
 www.cliftonts.co.uk/top.png


 So no swap problem there. You have gobs and gobs of free RAM.

 Cheers,

 Just as I was beginning to think we'd got it sorted my system really
 ground to a halt. After about 20 minutes of patiently trying to switch
 windows I got a screenshot (sorry) of top. Copying text just wasn't an
 option as everything was virtually unusable and I'm not sure if I captured
 it too late or not. Thoughts everyone?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Locking screen.......

[Neil Greenwood]

The Cog In...

I hope you were actually asking what it meant now, or I look silly - but
that's not unusual!

Neil
On Dec 3, 2012 9:51 PM, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 03/12/12 21:17, Colin Law wrote:

 No problem, any time. I always keep up to date with the latest buzz
 words. DASH, HUD, TCITTRHC. Colin


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Odp: alien arena problem

[Neil Greenwood]

You'll have to log out and back in before that takes effect too.

Neil
On Dec 3, 2012 11:06 PM, bu...@wp.pl wrote:

  Hi
 
  I am running Lubuntu 12.04 and have just installed Alien arena,
 
  psutton@E-machine:~$ uname -a
  Linux E-machine 3.2.0-33-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 18 16:19:45 UTC
  2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
 
  psutton@E-machine:~$ lsb_release -a
  LSB Version:
 
 core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch
  Distributor ID:Ubuntu
  Description:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
  Release:12.04
  Codename:precise
 
  if any of the above helps,  I have lubuntu_desktop installed hence it is
  saying Ubuntu but the base OS is the same, or pretty much the same.
 
  upon running i get the following output
 
  psutton@E-machine:~$ alien-arena
  ln: failed to create symbolic link
  `/home/psutton/.config/alien-arena/data1': Permission denied
  using /home/psutton/.config/alien-arena/arena for writing
  Could not exec default.cfg
  Could not exec config.cfg
  Could not exec profile.cfg
  Console initialized.
  - [Loading Renderer] -
  Master server at 69.136.224.226:27900
  Sending shutdown to 69.136.224.226:27900
  recursive shutdown
  Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
  psutton@E-machine:~$
 
 
  any suggestions welcome please
 
  Paul
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] unable to connect extras.ubuntu.com

[Neil Greenwood]

I had a failure earlier, it's now working for me.

Neil
On Nov 1, 2012 9:26 AM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 1 November 2012 08:16, Anton Kanishchev antonk20...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  the update worked 20 hours ago-i didn't change anything and now it seems
  that it cant connect. Have switched to best server, and have checked for
  internet connection.
 
  the output from terminal:
  
  W: Failed to fetch
 http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg
  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
 
  W: Failed to fetch
  http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources Unable to
  connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
 
  W: Failed to fetch
  http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages
  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
 
  W: Failed to fetch
 
 http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB
  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
 
  W: Failed to fetch
  http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en
  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
 
  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
 ones
  used instead.

 Probably just a temporary issue with the servers.  Give it a couple of
 hours and try again, it will likely be ok.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BT speedtester and java

[Neil Greenwood]

You may find that you need the java plugin installed too, that's the bit
that runs java applets in Web pages.

Also, even the BT engineer that came to my house didn't recommend using
their speed test! I can't remember which one he did use though... Google
should find something.

HTH,
Neil
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Royal mail using acrobat

[Neil Greenwood]

Maybe it's some DRM that prevents the file being re-used, and is tied to
Acrobat.

Just a guess, since we still use the stamps you buy in the post office!
On Oct 21, 2012 4:48 PM, Andres Muniz andre...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 - Mensaje original -
  On Sat, 20 Oct 2012, Andres Muniz wrote:
   cannot open pdf postage from the royal mail website?
 
  Could you give a URL/link, and some additional context about exactly
  what you're seeing.
 
  For myself, the following PDF opens automatically in Evince:
 
 
 
 http://www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/Royal%20Mail_Our_Prices2012.pdf
 
  -Paul
 
 
 
 the pdf was of a printed postage, so it's after paying for it and the
 postage is valid only for the next day luckly i had a windows machine and i
 could log in to royal mail from there. A bit difficult to send the link I
 think.

 It seems some one else managed to print postage, so i guess i was being
 daft. What i got was a pdf that evince could not open. i have to send a
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BT speedtester and java

[Neil Greenwood]

For reference, you don't need to remove it and install the other. You can
install the new one and mark the old one as automatically installed.
On Oct 21, 2012 8:26 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 21 October 2012 18:20, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk
 wrote:
  Colin,
 
  On 21/10/12 16:44, Colin Law wrote:
  On 21 October 2012 16:42, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk
 wrote:
  Colin,
 
 
  You probably need the plugin. Install icedtea-plugin, which is the one
  that is part of openjdk.
 
  icedtea-6-plugin in fact.
 
  Both will work. icedtea-plugin depends on icedtea-6-plugin. I presume
  when Java 7 becomes the default icedtea-plugin will eventually depend on
  icedtea-7-plugin!

 I see.  I had not noticed that there is a generic icedtea-plugin.
 Perhaps I should remove the version 6 and install the generic.
 
 However having looked further I see that on 12.10 this will actually
 pull in version 7 so I think I need to check how I installed java in
 the first place.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Grsync equivalent

[Neil Greenwood]

On 20/07/12 19:58, Bill B. wrote:
 Hi folks,
 Rather than risk a dodgy download to firms WinXP enforced laptop, does
 anyone know of a good, *safe* equivalent to Grsync [graphical front end
 of/for rsync] available for WindowsXP.
 
 I want to sync a USB of work tech docs stored on their [enforced XP]
 laptop - much as I do to sync from their laptop to my Ubuntu netbook 
 desktop.
 
 To have the 2 way sync would really help as I often edit some of these
 docs [on my own desktop or netbook]  want to keep both machines aligned
 in the docs folder.. 
 

2 way sync is provided by Unison. IIRC, there's a Windows version too.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Configuring Wammu

[Neil Greenwood]

You can use -i for case insensitivity in grep. But that's the wrong thing
to do here. Wammu wants the serial port, not the USB address. This will be
something like /dev/ttyS0 or maybe /dev/ttyACM0. You might be able to find
the correct address by looking at the last few lines output by dmesg, or by
trial-and-error.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On Jul 16, 2012 10:36 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com
wrote:

  On 16/07/12 10:25, Kris Douglas wrote:

 On 16 July 2012 10:23, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com 
 krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 16 July 2012 10:16, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com 
 gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

  Trying to configure Wammu for my Nokia X3-02 and it's asking me for the NAME
 of the device (USB port) the phone is attached to.
 How and where do I find this name?


 Hello Gordon,

 I think your best bet is to try lsusb | grep nokia

 You will get a result which resembles the string below, but will say
 Nokia x3-02 or something similar. I presume the software is either
 after the ID or the Device Number.

 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


 In addition to the above, the search term is apparently case sensitive
 so it could be NOKIA, Nokia or nokia.

 Please let me know if there's a way to remove case sensitivity.


  Using Nokia I get this:
 Bus 002 Device 007: ID 0421:03e0 Nokia Mobile Phones

 However, inputting any of that string into the Wammu config dialog just
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting information in The Register that may be useful in evangelism

[Neil Greenwood]

On 18.05.12 20:18, Barry Titterton wrote:
 It seems that Microsoft will be shipping Win8 without the ability to
 play DVDs. They justify it by citing the rise in popularity of streaming
 media such as Netflix. Users who really want it will have to pay extra.
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/04/windows_media_dvd_playback_dead/
 
 MS tried this in the past, I think it was with MediaPlayer9, but back
 then users just shrugged and installed a free option such as VLC. But
 now, with Secure Boot, MS can make sure that users do not have another
 option. Except for upgrading to Ubuntu of course!
 

I don't think secure boot would stop you installing VLC, but it may stop
you installing Ubuntu.

That's my uninformed understanding, anyway.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quantal ....

[Neil Greenwood]

I think he meant what is currently on the disk, since I don't remember
Bruno complaining about precise much...

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 15, 2012 10:48 PM, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 15/05/12 22:35, Bruno Girin wrote:

 I found a forgotten HDD the other day that I didn't know what to do with.
 Installing Quantal pre-alpha on it sounds like a good idea. All the bugs in
 Quantal can't be worse than what's on it right now anyway. Thanks for the
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 Hey!  12.04 is the best thing since sliced bread.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Getting Xgnokii to work?

[Neil Greenwood]

Since it came from a .deb, you can also run

dpkg --listfiles xgnokii

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 15, 2012 4:24 PM, Joe yothsogg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know anything about the program itself, but as for finding the
 installation directory you could run 'whereis xgnokii' which should show
 you where the executable with that name is stored.
 If that doesn't work there's also 'locate xgnokii' which should show the
 position of any files and directories with that name.

 Hope that helps,
 Joe
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 I've installed Xgnokii from the Ubuntu Software centre, hopefully to
 administer my Nokia X3 phone.
 It's installed OK but when I click the icon nothing happens except a
 very faint splash screen in the middle of my screen that just disappears.
 The User guide http://gnokii.org/docs.shtml doesn't seem to be much help
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

[Neil Greenwood]

Hi Norman,

I think the only mistake you made (for future reference out to help others)
was to install grub to the partition rather than the whole of the boot
drive.

To recover now, you boot the live CD and reinstall grub, as others have
suggested. The complete list of instructions is on the grub (or grub2) page
of the Ubuntu wiki, something like http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub.

Hope this helps. I followed the instructions about a week ago, and they
were easy to understand.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 13, 2012 8:45 PM, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote:

 Barry, using gparted, the HDD containing Windows XP Pro was partitioned
 as you described and all seemed well. The installation process was
 started and do something else selected. The partition allocated ext4 was
 chosen and then I was warned that I needed to indicate a boot partition
 so I chose this partition. The installation completed but, on reboot, it
 went straight into Windows. I have confirmed that the two OSs are on the
 same drive so I assume I need to do something about Grub. Still,
 progress is being made.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] My experience with 12.04 upgrade

[Neil Greenwood]

I've raised bug 982954 about the intermittent failure to show the launcher,
even when the sensitivity is set to high. I'm using Unity 3D though.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 9, 2012 9:34 AM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 9 May 2012 09:05, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
  On 09/05/12 07:56, Colin Law wrote:
 
2. The launcher will not 'reveal' if there is an application, such
 as
Firefox, set to maximum size. The launcher will 'reveal' once all
windows have been minimised or closed. I have a work around for this
problem by setting the launcher to be permanently visible. Is this a
   bug
or normal behaviour for 2D Unity?
 
  That is a bug, even with maximised windows the launcher should reveal
  if you push the mouse against the left hand side.  On the appearance
  settings have you got Reveal Location set to Left Side or Top Left
  Corner?  I have it on Left Side on a Satellite A100 using 2D and it
  reveals ok.
 
 
  I have noticed that the reveal does not happen if the cursor is 'gently'
  taken to the (left) side, it only works for a fairly vigorous 'hit'. Even
  when sensitivity is turned up. There are many times when I am simply not
  feeling like hurling the cursor around the screen, although I can guess
 that
  if I was a dev I might  a lot more :-)

 On the Appearance  Behaviour app there is a Reveal Sensitivity
 setting which I think is supposed to adjust this, though I have not
 tried it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity - fails to load automatically -- low-graphics mode crashes

[Neil Greenwood]

I think if you log into your launchpad page, there's a list of bugs that
you've raised.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 9, 2012 8:27 PM, Matthew Sturdy matt.stu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 9 May 2012 21:02, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote:

 I also have both installed, but gdm is not used. run this command

 sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm

 That should give you the option to set the default.



 Cheers Philip, I had just that second made the change... my default was
 lightdm, and that was firing at the same time as gdm, and failing.  I have
 run a few tests, and lightdm won't start at all.

 So: I have used ubuntu-bug to raise a bug from the virtual terminal
 against lightdm, and I will stick with gdm for the time being!  Anyone tell
 me how to track a bug report retrospectively?  I wasn't able to save the
 reference from the virtual terminal.

 Thanks again for all the help Philip!!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Precise - some thoughts .....

[Neil Greenwood]

My wife could install and use an Android app, but she couldn't get to the
boot menu without help. Only one data point, I know...

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 8, 2012 1:17 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 8 May 2012 10:25, Sarah Chard sa...@streetentertainers.co.uk wrote:
  ...
  At the moment we are compiling a database so we can create an android
 app to
  help people -  they can put in their make and model of pc/laptop and it
 will
  tell them how to get into the boot menu - we feel this will be useful not
  only to our project but also the wider community -
  If you want to help go to
  http://www.tuxedu.org/tell-us-how-you-get-your-pc-into-usb-boot-mode/

 Are you sure that an Android app is the best way to do this?  I would
 have thought that most who understand Android apps would have little
 difficulty getting into the boot menu.  Perhaps a web site would be
 better.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 has locked me out of my account

[Neil Greenwood]

If there is a broken user account, it definitely is a config file issue
with one of the hidden files in that user's directory. It's not a global
config issue though.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.

On May 3, 2012 11:33 PM, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/05/12 13:35, Barry Drake wrote:

  The time I've been spending on the Ubuntu answers team has shown me
  that all kinds of nasties are occurring after an upgrade.  In
  nearly every case, a clean install has been the best answer.

 I find this response very frustrating. It's not only inaccurate but it
 means we'll never get to the bottom of the problem, so can never find
 out how to fix it.

 If everyone just re-installed the OS whenever the wind changed
 direction we'd end up with a significantly worse OS as a result. When
 everyone keeps telling everyone else to reinstall, we end up with the
 state that Windows is in. Everyone thinks that's the solution, and it
 isn't, by some margin.

 Thank you for that Alan, that's exactly why I'm persisting. I'm building
a knowledgebase to allow me to fix such issues for my customers as
efficiently as possible.

 Here's an interesting one. I've logged in as a guest and been able to
create a new account. I have renamed my home folder and used the new
account to copy the contents of it's home folder into a new home folder for
the old account. It still doesn't work so I now have one working admin
account and the original still broken one which doesn't appear to be a
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 oddities

[Neil Greenwood]

Since 8.04 I think, if you choose not to format and install over your
previous partition, the /home directory will be left intact.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the top-post and brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 1, 2012 10:20 AM, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:

 On 01/05/12 02:20, Roy Jamison wrote:
 
  I think what we're trying to say is maybe it's time to upgrade ;)
 
  On May 1, 2012 12:13 AM, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com
 mailto:alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:
 
  On 30/04/12 11:20, paul sutton wrote:
   on the partition page i choose set up and tried to partition as
   follows
 
   / 50mb
 
  That's not big enough.
 
   /home 100mb
 
  Neither is that. Also, why have a separate home?
 
   swap 10mb
 
 
  Nor is that big enough.
 
  Cheers,


 Ok all that should be GB,   so its a 160gb hard disk,   what my question
 was is why would it not let me create a 100 gb partition and made it 110
 gb,  when i told it to make it 100gb,   so I had space at the end for
 the 10gb swap partition.

 Anyway 12.04 is up and running,  i need to get wireless working,   so
 not sure why when I am sure it worked out of the box with 11.10,  and
 below.

 Separate home, i was under the impression this made life easier and was
 the right way to do things (been using linux for years), if I want to
 wipe / later on and install something else, I can do, and it will leave
 /home intact and not wipe the data from it,


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange question: record audio on time delay.

[Neil Greenwood]

Try the sox package. It has utilities to play back and record, which you
can then script from cron or at.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On May 1, 2012 2:38 AM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote:

 Ok Guys,

 This is an end-user question... which is strange because I usually think
 I should know the answer to a question like this... but I don't.

 It is reputed that I snow. Allegedly, when camping, people have confused
 the sound with that of a quadbike due the the volume and consistency.

 I'm not however, asking for anti-snoring advice - I have that in hand.

 Given, that I've not heard it myself, it's difficult to empathise and so
 I'd like to record myself snoring.

 This creates some problems:

 I don't want to record 7 hours of PCM audio.

 I don't know any commandline tools to record from pulseaudio.

 What I really need is a:

 at 03:00 recordfrompulsemic1 for 600 seconds to ~/file.wav

 Or something along those lines. I don't care if it's graphical or shell,
 but I'm sure this isn't too difficult to do, so I'd be interested in
 hearing what people thought.

 Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Install problems...

[Neil Greenwood]

Einstein said doing the same thing and expecting different results was a
sign of madness - but then he didn't like quantum mechanics and had no
experience of PCs!

I think there might be a wiki page with a list of boot options you can try
if your boot freezes, but I can't remember where it is. Try google with the
site: option?

My connection's rubbish or I'd have a go myself.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On Apr 26, 2012 9:58 PM, James Morrissey morrissey.jam...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Tony,

  I have just tried a Lubuntu 12.04 beta on USB in my old EEEPC (and I mean
  the original 7 with Celeron processor and 512MB) and had no problem.

 Yes, its been great using 11.10. I set up the same machine as you have
 for my mother using 11.10, and it worked like a charm.

  It does reach a stage where the dots stop changing colour, but after
 about a
  minute or so of that it does boot OK.

 I waited a fair while. I'll try it again and just leave it to sit
 there and see what happens.

  What is your machine?

 Asus ARp6, 1GB or RScreen size - 15.4 in - 1280 x 800
 Processor - Intel Celeron M 420 - 1.6 GHz
 RAM - 512 MB (added another 512)
 Hard Drive - 80 GB
 Optical Drive - DVD±RW (+R double layer) / DVD-RAM
 Graphics - ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
 Webcam - Integrated

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[Neil Greenwood]

One thing to check - you located the file, but check that it isn't a broken
symlink by using ls -l.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On Apr 5, 2012 4:26 PM, James Morrissey morrissey.jam...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Try installing the following packages:
 
  libqwt5-qt4
  libqwt5-qt4-dev
  qt4-dev-tools
  qt4-qtconfig (n.b. this is in the universe repository)
 
  This is the suggestion on this page, but it is in Spanish, and not
  particularly recent:
 
  http://www.espaciolinux.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=34081
 

 Yes, I found that page and followed those instructions. So now i think
 that i have all the dependencies. Like i said it seems that
 libQtSvg.so.4 is on the system but not in the correct place.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutdown bug?

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I think it's by design. It used to shutdown regardless when users were
logged in, but this isn't desirable for multi-user systems. Now, it
wouldn't matter whether you tried to shutdown as the admin user or the
normal user, as I understand it. It will only log you out until no more
users are logged in. As Daniel said, you can force it with the right
command.

I guess it could be clearer that there is still someone logged in, and I
believe this used to be clearer than it is with unity.

Neil.

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On Mar 30, 2012 1:14 AM, Daniel Case danielcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Andres,

 I have the same problem, so I will be monitoring this thread if anyone has
 any answers. What I did as a workaround was create a keyboard shortcut with
 gksudo shutdown -h now and it does the trick, just press the key
 combination, type my password and the system is on its way to a clean
 shutdown.

 Daniel

 On 29 March 2012 22:11, Andres Muniz andre...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi all,
 I do not know if this is a bug nor do i know how to call it to report it.
 And maybe it was reported.

 If I am logged in with one user(a) i then choose to open another user(b)
 without logging out of user(a).
 When logged in as (b) and tap shutdown button on my computer and the
 message apears to saying it will shut down in 60s. I choose shutdown. But
 it sends me to the log in screen with no feedback as to why i can not shut
 down. In the log in sceen i tap the power button once like befor but
 nothing happens. I then go to the top right and select shutdown and nothing
 happens.
 What i need to do is log into user (a) and shutdown from there.

 (A) is a normal user.
 (b) is admin group.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice

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Just to correct the assertion below: /tmp is writable for all users,
typically files downloaded there might have their permissions set to
read-only though.

Sorry I can't help with the original question!

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.
On Mar 26, 2012 6:56 PM, John Oliver jp.oli...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 There is a little button that looks like a document with a pencil on it
 about 5 icons to the right of the new document button. (Called Edit
 Document). Pressing it will make a copy of the file and open it for editing.

 The usual reason for this is a file is downloaded from the Internet to the
 /tmp directory, which is read-only to all except the root user.

 Regards,
 John Oliver

 On 26 Mar 2012, at 18:23, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:

  Hi
 
  I am trying to fill in an application form sent to me in docx format, I
  have saved as odf otherwise editing saving and reopening a docx file
  results in seriously messed up file.
 
  I have a table for work history etc,  which when i try and edit I get
  things like read only content,  modified content will not be applied,  I
  need to edit these sections to add stuff.
 
  I NEED to get it filled in,  how do I remove what ever is causing this
  to be read only,  I should be able to simply edit the document,   but I
  can't
 
  Getting realled stressed out with it.
 
  Please help,  there must be a way to edit the file properties,   the
  file it self is NOT read only its internal to the file,  i can't find
  where to go in libreoffice to make parts of the file writeable.
 
  thanks
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity launcher ....

[Neil Greenwood]

Well, you can volunteer to support it, and put the option back in. Or pay
someone to do it if you don't have the skills yourself. That's the joy of
free software.

However, Canonical decided they weren't going to keep paying to support it.
That's their right too.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone.

On Mar 23, 2012 10:45 PM, John Oliver jp.oli...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Personally, I think that the code should continue to be maintained. The
argument being put forth sounds to me like It is not the default,
therefore no-one can have it. This argument does not work - look at
Windows - the taskbar has an autohide option. Look at OS X; the much
gone-on-about full screen mode (a.k.a. hide the dock) has just been added.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does AV chat work with Jabber?

[Neil Greenwood]

My day job is testing VoIP/SIP, and I've not had much luck with Empathy,
but I have more success with Linphone for A/V and Twinkle for just voice is
hard to beat for its configure-ability

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity and top-post, this is typed on my phone.

On Mar 22, 2012 11:57 PM, James Tait james.t...@wyrddreams.org wrote:

 On 22/03/12 22:16, Tony Pursell wrote:

 Does anyone know if Audio and Video (AV) chat works with Jabber from
 Empathy?

 [snip]

 However, when we tried Jabber AV chat we got no connection.  I would
 like to show him that we can move away from Skype, especially as we can
 expect no more Linux support for it now that Microsoft have bought them.

 I have just been trying to make a Jabber AV connection between two
 computers at home using Empathy and that has been a failure too,
 although I have had it working OK in the past.  Both ends just showed
 'Connecting' and even when I hung up both ends, my desktop computer
 showed Pulseaudio and zeitgeist-daemon taking up to 100% of both CPU
 cores and 80% of the 2GB ram, until I killed them both.

 What experience do other people have?


 Although I don't recall seeing the PulseAudio and zeitgeist-daemon
problem, your experiences largely match my own.  I work away from home for
one week every six months or so, and have tried various solutions for
calling my wife and two boys.  Skype stopped working for us altogether, so
we decided to try Jabber.

 When it works, it's fantastic, but it does seem very temperamental.  I
thought it was probably due to NAT traversal issues, but configuring a STUN
server didn't help[0], and even on the same WLAN we had problems. I haven't
had chance to look into it any further recently, but I really should before
I go away again.

 The last time I went away I used SIP from my Android phone using the
hotel wifi to our land line via VoipFone.  No video, but crystal clear
voice calls from Argentina for 1.2p/min.

 JT

 [0] How did I do that? Good question, but I don't think it was using
Empathy.  Maybe it was Psi+.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity launcher ....

[Neil Greenwood]

It's policy. The decision was made after usability testing, where users got
confused when first maximising a window. where's the launcher gone now?
And because the option was being removed, the decision was also made to
remove the code to reduce the maintenance requirements.

Neil.

P.S. Sorry for the brevity and top-posting, this is typed on my phone.

On Mar 23, 2012 6:50 PM, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:

 Hi there ...   I used to like the way that the launcher used to slide
away when there was a window over it and re-appear when there wasn't.  Now
in Precise, we seem only to be able to have autohide or permanently in
place.   The Compiz configurator and MyUnity both seem to suggest that I
can configure settings that do the slide: they don't seem to do that.
 Anyone here know whether this is current policy on Unity or a bug?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity launcher ....

[Neil Greenwood]

I know some find it a bit annoying, but Canonical didn't just decide this.
They spent lots of money testing different behaviours with users with a
range of experience of computers. I believe all the users tested had little
experience of Linux.

Mark Shuttleworth even had to say that the results were the opposite of
what he first thought before the testing.

Neil.

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On Mar 23, 2012 8:17 PM, Hakan Koseoglu ha...@koseoglu.org wrote:

 On 23 March 2012 19:54, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com
wrote:
  It's policy. The decision was made after usability testing, where users
got
  confused when first maximising a window. where's the launcher gone
now?
  And because the option was being removed, the decision was also made to
  remove the code to reduce the maintenance requirements.
 soap box
 Treating users as idiots is not a policy, it's a mistake.
 As soon as I find a distribution worth installing everywhere, I'll be
 switching. Mint doesn't cut the mustard. I'm a Kubuntu/Lubuntu user on
 desktop and Ubuntu server  but I don't want to anymore, I don't want
 to have anything with Ubuntu products.

 I know the PR spin, it's to make new users' life easy yada yada
 yada. But the new users don't discover Linux all by themselves, in
 most cases someone shows them and I don't want to show and talk about
 Ubuntu to anyone anymore.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Since my last update

[Neil Greenwood]

It is very possible that temperature is the problem. It's not a bug though,
it's a hardware issue.

Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Xorg high CPU usage

[Neil Greenwood]

On Mar 7, 2012 10:50 AM, Grant Phillips-Sewell dcg...@cornwall-it.co.uk
wrote:

 On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:45:23 +
 Pete Smout wrote:

  On 06/03/12 18:15, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote:
   On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:07:08 +
   Pete Smout wrote:
  
   On 05/03/12 21:10, Pete Smout wrote:
   Hi,
  
   For about a week now my laptop (ubuntu 10.04 LTS fully updated)
   has been freezing up for approx 30 secs, with gkrellm and top
   showing xorg using 100% cpu usage?
   There seems to be no pattern to what programs I am using,
   everything from open office to clementine to smplayer or
   thunderbird, not at any certain time of day or day of the week,
   or even weather using the inbuilt screen or external one.
  
   My understanding (admittedly limited) is that xorg is the bit that
   works the display (screen). Has anyone else come across this?
  
   For reference the laptop specs are:
  
   Acer Aspire 5720
   Intel T5250 Dual core processor
   Ram 2.0 gb
   Internal graphics (intel)
   Internal sound (intel)
  
   Thanks in advance for any ideas
  
   Regards
  
   Pete
  
  
   just for reference my xorg.conf:
  
   Section Device
  Identifier  Configured Video Device
  Driver  fbdev
   EndSection
  
   Might want to look into that bit.
  
   You should have a specific Xorg driver for your onboard Intel
   graphics chip.
  
   Run the following command to find out your graphics chip:
 lspci
  
   Look for the line that has VGA on it.
  
   If it does indeed say something about an Intel chip, then make sure
   you have the following package installed:
 xserver-xorg-video-intel
  
   (That package deals with all i8xx and i9xx chips)
  
   Once that's installed, remove the xorg.conf file and restart X.
  
   You can restart X by going to a terminal (NOT a terminal window...
   press CTRL+ALT+F2 and log in) and then run:
 sudo service lightdm restart
  
   (Or just reboot... up to you.)
  
   Grant.
  
  Hi Grant,
 
  Thanks for your reply, the lspci command produces (relevant lines
  only I hope)
 
  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
  GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
  00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
  Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 
  Synaptic shows xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed (reinstalled for
  good measure) moved the xorg.conf file to my documents folder and
  rebooted, opened t-bird to reply to you and the machine 'greyed out'
  for approx 20 secs with gkrellm showing xorg as using 100% CPU!
  Please note that last time it happened was with clementine running,
  when playback stopped mid song so I cannot blame t-bird!
 
  As an aside but possibly related?! when I open a tty shell
  (ctrl-alt-f1) log in it tells me 'Your CPU appears to be lacking
  expected security protections. Please check your BIOS settings, for
  more information please run /usr/bin/check-bios-nx --verbose which
  produces
 
  smouty@smouty-laptop:~$ /usr/bin/check-bios-nx --verbose
  This CPU is family 6, model 15, and has NX capabilities but is unable
  to use these protective features because the BIOS is configured to
  disable the capability.  Please enable this in your BIOS.  For more
  details, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/CPUFeatures
 
  I am unable to find any related settings in BIOS, if this is
  unrelated to my original question please ignore it and I will do
  further research
 
  Regards
 
  Pete

 Hi Pete,

 That is interesting, about your CPU security extensions, but I do not
 believe it is related to this.

 Your original post showed that your xorg.conf file was using fbdev as
 the graphics driver - this *should* work on most machines and so it is
 useful as a fall back if all else fails. The fbdev driver means that
 the CPU is doing all the graphics donkey-work rather than the GPU.

 Essentially all I suggested was that you ensure you have the correct
 xorg driver available (which you do) and you (re)move the xorg.conf
 file so that xorg regenerates it (or creates on on-the-fly) when you
 reboot... which you've done.

 It is still entirely possible that xorg is still using fbdev, so you
 may want to re-instate your xorg.conf file but edit the fbdev entry
 to say intel instead.

 Essentially, as I understand it, if there is an xorg.conf file present
 then XOrg will use it; if there is no xorg.conf file then XOrg will try
 to detect what's going on and make up a configuration on-the-fly.

 Since the on-the-fly thing doesn't seem to be working for you, let's
 try *making* it use the Intel driver by having an xorg.conf file that
 specifies to use the Intel driver and nothing else.

 I hope that makes sense.

 Grant.

As well as the xorg.conf file, there is also the
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory that should be checked to see if it
has an override for the auto generated file.

 Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Since my last update

[Neil Greenwood]

On Mar 6, 2012 5:34 PM, James Morrissey morrissey.jam...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Since my last update a number of things have stopped working.

 1. Brightness controls no longer work (fn+F8 and fn+F9)
 2. Only skip forward works (fn+F12), skip backwards (fn+F10) no longer
does
 3. Suspend on lid-close appears to have stopped working - the box is
 checked in my power preferences
 4. Fan appears to have stopped working.

 I am using the Gnome 3 desktop and running a thinkpadx121e.

 Does anyone know how i go about finding out what's causing the
 problem, or how i can fix it?

 Thanks,

 j


You don't say what version of Ubuntu you're using. Was it an update between
versions, our just a daily/monthly update within a version?

 Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 11.10

[Neil Greenwood]

On Feb 17, 2012 2:38 PM, John Oliver jp.oli...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 If it is only Firefox and Thunderbird affected, check the settings of
those applications for stray proxy settings etc. Whilst I don't see how
such peculiar settings could have come into force, they could have done,
and my advice is to check the network settings in Firefox/Thunderbird
preferences.

 Regards,
 John Oliver

And of course, if it's from behind the firewall in work, you might need to
tell it about your proxy server!


Cofion/regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broken Precise .....

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On Feb 17, 2012 10:55 PM, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 17/02/12 18:47, Piskie wrote:

 Never had a partial that way that caused me issues - update manager is
prone to causing 'issues' during the dev cycle so I never use it, nor the
software-centre.


 Doing the update from the commandline has fixed the problem.  Hadn't
thought update manager was prone to problems!  I'll be a bit more aware in
future.  Thanks to all of you for your response.

 Regards,Barry.


I think it was more of a timing issue, and whatever method you used to
update would have had problems with the state of the repository at that
time.

 Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Precise

[Neil Greenwood]

On 12.01.12 23:29, Pete Smout wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just upgraded the HDD in my laptop and decided to reinstall ubuntu, so I
 went for the daily build of 12.04.
 
 Although this is still in the Alpha test stage and issues are to be
 expected, the issue I encountered was that it would not install!
 
 It got to the point of asking to install updates during install and
 third party software, (good idea!) and just hung there for 2.5 hrs (so
 was a hang not a delay).
 
 has anyone had any joy with this or is it just me with this bizzare issue?
 
 regards
 
 Pete
 
 

I tried updating today and there seems to be some package breakage.

I installed perfectly from the Alpha 1 ISO a few weeks ago. I'd try
that, and complete the install before trying to update.

HTH
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommendations for a printer? HPLIP

[Neil Greenwood]

On 04.01.12 20:22, alan c wrote:
 On 04/01/12 20:00, Andy Braben wrote:
 2012/1/4 Juan J. reid...@usebox.net

 On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 18:10 +, Andy Braben wrote:
 [...]

 Is that not worth a bug report? HPLIP package not kept up to date on
 automatic updates?

 That's a very good point. There's a policy about updates after a
 release:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates

 Should HPLIP be listed in the special cases? Well I think it probably
 should as the wiki above says:


 For Long Term Support releases we regularly want to enable new hardware.
 Such changes are appropriate provided that we can ensure to not affect
 upgrades on existing hardware. For example, modaliases of newly introduced
 drivers must not overlap with previously shipped drivers.
 
 Does that mean that a 'special message' or whatever may need to appear
 on screen in certain circumstances - for example - the previous
 version needs to be remove before install of the later version?
 

I don't think so. The updated package will automatically replace the
older version. It's just a case of getting the HPLIP package added to
the list of ones that get updated after the release.

You friend's problem was that the update scripts in the .deb package are
not included in the archive that he downloaded, so it wasn't correctly
removing the currently installed version.

Hope that clears any confusion.

Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu one and google +

[Neil Greenwood]

On Dec 22, 2011 11:56 PM, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:

 On 22/12/11 23:00, Andres wrote:

 i do not get it.

 At least through facebook/twitter you could use your gwibber.

 And you'll be able to use G+ through gwibber once Google make the API
available no doubt.

 Since g+, linkedin, diaspora* et al. Are not as mainstream and do not
even make there way to gwibber (there are bug reports for each) what is the
point of adding another link clogging up the gui?

 How does something become mainstream?
 By people using it.

 Why do people use it?
 Because their friends and other people/companies/products they're
interested in are there.

 So in my opinion we should be where people are. People most definitely
are on G+, whether you are or not.

 Let's look at an example. Matthew Inman who runs the insanely popular
'The Oatmeal' web site/comic which appeals to 'normal' people, not just
geeks has this to say:-

 https://plus.google.com/u/0/100193529331792590881/posts/1TeRkifBeZc

 He took ~1 year to get   ~17K followers on tumblr.
 He took ~2 years to get ~209K followers on twitter.
 He took ~1 month to get ~190K followers on Google plus.

 That was back on October 15th.

 Now he has over 400K followers on Google. More in ~3 months than it took
2 _years_ on twitter.

 https://plus.google.com/u/0/100193529331792590881/

 Google+ is mainstream.


Is it, or is it a reflection of how much more popular he is now?

Just playing devil's advocate!

Neil.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] costume launcher on unity?

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On Dec 2, 2011 11:00 PM, Andres andre...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was unable to do the script, lack of knolwdge on how paths, and bash
scripts work. For example if my bash is called skype how do i make it call
that instead of the normal skype?


Ok, paths are quite easy once you understand the concept.

bash stores a list of directories that it will look in for programs (and
scripts). It looks through the list in order, and uses the first program or
script it finds with the right name. So you put your replacement in a
directory that will be checked first, and use the full path to the program
you're replacing - otherwise your replacement calls itself again and again!

To find out what the path is, so you can find where to put your
replacement, you can look at various scripts that are run when you log in,
but it's easier to open a terminal and type the following:
echo $PATH

HTH
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] costume launcher on unity?

[Neil Greenwood]

On 03.12.11 18:27, Andres wrote:
 Neil:
 in, but it's easier to open a terminal and type the following:
 echo $PATH
 
 Thanks! That just made it very clear! i understand that if I get
 /usr/bin:/bin it will check /usr/bin first and later /bin
 
 I'll give it a go.
 
 
 
Glad it helped.

You might find that if you create a bin directory in your home (also
called ~/bin), and maybe /usr/local/bin too, these will get added into
the path after you log out and back in again. This would give you more
options about where to put your replacement script.

Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer Problem

[Neil Greenwood]

On Dydd Gwener 02 mis Rhagfyr 2011 19:56:42 GMT, Michael Daniels wrote:
  From: clan...@googlemail.com
  Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:52:16 +
  To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
  Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer Problem
  @Michael. If you go to System Settings  Printers and right click the
  printer and select Properties what do you see for all the Settings?
 
  Also what do you see under Access Control?
 
  Colin

 Thanks, Colin, Access Ctrl; Allow printing for everyone (no exceptions)
   Device mff:/dev/mfp4
 O/S is Ubuntu 10.04
   


HI Michael,

The access control is what I was thinking of when I last replied (from 
my phone, so I couldn't see the settings).

Try turning the access control setting to deny everyone, add your user 
to the white list and try again. Then try setting it back to allow 
everyone and delete your user from the list. See if either of those 
help with the problem.

Ahh, I've also just noticed on the Policies tab (I'm using 11.04, so it 
might be slightly different), there's an Operation Policy setting, 
which has the values Default behaviour and Authenticated - mine is 
set to Default, so check yours isn't set to Authenticated.

HTH
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer Authentification

[Neil Greenwood]

Hi Michael,

There's an option to require authentication on the printer sharing
settings, if I remember correctly. You can see this either through the
printer configuration applet, or through the local cups interface on
http://localhost:631

HTH,
Neil

On Nov 30, 2011 9:09 AM, Michael Daniels michae...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 Local Printer, thanks, Daniel.


  From: danielcas...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:04:52 +
  To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
  Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer Authentification

 
  Hey Michael,
 
  Is it a local printer, or is it done across the network with CUPS?
 
  Daniel
 
  On 30 November 2011 00:08, Michael Daniels michae...@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:
   I now get a request to enter authentication for each print job,
10.04, have
   never previously needed a password to print something, have looked
   everywhere for help, nothing found. Any ideas, please ?
  
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer Authentification

[Neil Greenwood]

Sorry, I've just realised I didn't make it clear that these settings might
apply locally too.

Worth a try anyway.

Neil

On Nov 30, 2011 5:43 PM, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Michael,

 There's an option to require authentication on the printer sharing
settings, if I remember correctly. You can see this either through the
printer configuration applet, or through the local cups interface on
http://localhost:631

 HTH,
 Neil

 On Nov 30, 2011 9:09 AM, Michael Daniels michae...@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:
 
  Local Printer, thanks, Daniel.
 
 
   From: danielcas...@gmail.com
   Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:04:52 +
   To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
   Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer Authentification
 
  
   Hey Michael,
  
   Is it a local printer, or is it done across the network with CUPS?
  
   Daniel
  
   On 30 November 2011 00:08, Michael Daniels michae...@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:
I now get a request to enter authentication for each print job,
10.04, have
never previously needed a password to print something, have looked
everywhere for help, nothing found. Any ideas, please ?
   
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Watch and backup folder

[Neil Greenwood]

On Nov 20, 2011 4:24 PM, Bea Groves beagro...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
 To reiterate, all the software has to do is:

 a) Monitor the Documents folder (and all subfolders) on a continuous basis
 b) If a file or folder is created or modified, then copy the changes to
 another drive or folder of my choice (e.g. an SD card)

 I have yet to find anything that does this, or that does it without
 entailing a lot of scripting knowledge (at which I'm rather a newbie!).


Incron will do this. I have it set up to create a symlink when I plug in my
USB drive. You configure it with a path to watch and a script to run when
something under that path changes.

I don't have access to my config file at the mo. I think the man page is
good though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loss of 10.04 headers.

[Neil Greenwood]

On 31.10.11 15:58, Michael Daniels wrote:
 I searched Google for ubuntu 10.04 reset gnome panels (without the
 quotes). Near the top of the results, I found a link to an Ubuntu Forums
 post[0] that includes a couple of ways to do this, in the terminal. You
 might want to copy all the contents of the .gconf directory beforehand
 in case it goes wrong or you lose some customisations. Open the terminal
 and type (without the quotes):
 cp -a .gconf backup.gconf
 to do this.

 HTH,
 Neil.

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 Thanks, Neil, all  correctly displayed if I create a new user, but still
 have to use Alt F1 on my admin login. Looks like I shall have to look
 further unless anyone can suggest a quick fix ?
 
 

OK, so if the new user was fine, reset the panels for your admin login.

Look at that forum post I linked too, and it shows 2 ways of doing this.
One thing I didn't mention is that you need to be logged in as your
admin user, not the new user.

After doing the reset, you might have to log out and then back in as the
admin user, and everything should be reset to the standard layout.


Let us know if you have any problems.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loss of 10.04 headers.

[Neil Greenwood]

On 29.10.11 22:17, Michael Daniels wrote:
 Somehow, I have completely wiped my 10.04 headers, even the clock on the
 right ! I get everything, except maybe the clock using ALT F1, can I
 restore the headers, without a complete reload, please ?
 Thanks, Michael
 
 
Create another user, and log on as that user. If all the headers i.e.
applets and indicators, reappear, then you can probably just reset the
panels for your normal user.

I searched Google for ubuntu 10.04 reset gnome panels (without the
quotes). Near the top of the results, I found a link to an Ubuntu Forums
post[0] that includes a couple of ways to do this, in the terminal. You
might want to copy all the contents of the .gconf directory beforehand
in case it goes wrong or you lose some customisations. Open the terminal
and type (without the quotes):
 cp -a .gconf backup.gconf
to do this.

HTH,
Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] meetings tonight

[Neil Greenwood]

On 20.10.11 11:09, Alan Bell wrote:
 On 20/10/11 10:55, Iain Cuthbertson wrote:
 Hi Alan,

 Good to be reminded about the meeting, one I might have been able to
 attend.
 Sadly, I shall be in Birmingham watching The Ukulele Orchestra of
 Great Britain instead.

 For those attending via IRC, what is the time of the meeting?
 The content on the event URI still details last month's meeting.

 time is 9PM, and wiki is now fixed, thanks!
 
 Alan
 
 

Won't be able to make it I'm afraid. Just moved house and have no
internet until next week - cock-up with the simultaneous broadband
provision...

I'll try to be there next month.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyring password error

[Neil Greenwood]

On 13.10.11 16:58, dianne reuby wrote:
 I have 10.10 Ubuntu. Used my machine with no problems this morning. Just
 switched back on and logged on to my account OK. But I get a message
 that my login password and my keyring password don't match, and to enter
 the password.
 
 Are the admin password and keyring password usually the same? And what
 can I have done to change the keyring password? Updates yesterday
 included linux headers, and today I think was only Chrome.
 
 Password and Encryption shows only one password, and that's login - but
 it's blank, including date created. I can't reset - I don't know what
 the old password is set to, as it says it isn't my admin password.
 
[snip]

Sorry for the late reply.

I've seen this happen before when I've changed my user's password using
the Change Password option on the About Me applet. The keyring password
is the same as your user's login password normally (I think that's what
you mean by admin password, the login password you enter to administer
your machine).

There's a bug in that Change Password screen, where it updates the login
password but not the keyring password. If you open a terminal and use
passwd to change your password, that correctly keeps the 2 in sync.
It's been reported and was marked as a papercut at one point, but IIRC
there's too much work involved to fix it and no one has actually done
the fix.

If you have changed your password, you can get them back in sync like this:
1. log in as normal
2. Open the Passwords and Encryption Keys application
3. Right click the login option and choose Change Password. Enter your
old login password followed by your new password twice.

Of course, that only works if you can remember your old password. If you
can't I think you have to delete the login entry and create a new
keyring, but I have never done this so I'd search Google for some help.


 At the moment it won't even let me send email, even though I know the
 server passwords!
 TIA
 Dianne


You know them, but the email program can't access them! If you unlock or
delete the old entry, a new one should give the email program its memory
back...

HTH
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost desktop after messing with Compiz.....

[Neil Greenwood]

On 19.10.11 12:22, scoundrel50a wrote:
 On 19/10/2011 12:02, Alan Pope wrote:
 On 19 October 2011 12:00, scoundrel50ascoundrel...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I was fiddling with compiz and decided to have a look at what the
 desktop
 cube looks like. One of the options said something about turning off the
 desktop. I stupidly pressed it, and now I have no desktop.Please can
 somebody helpI am running 11.10
 Boot, press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a console, login, type unity --reset,
 wait a moment or two, press CTRL+ALT+F7 to switch to GUI, login.

 Al.

 Brilliant, that worked, I was panicking that I would have to set up a
 new account again.thank you so much...
 
 
 John
 
Setting up a new user account probably wouldn't have fixed that - it's a
system setting rather than a user setting as I understand it.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition

[Neil Greenwood]

On 16.08.11 13:03, James Morrissey wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have just received my new laptop. Its a Thinkpad x121e, with Intel (Core 
 i3).
 
 I am trying to put ubuntu on it, but i am having some problems with
 the 64 bit live USB.
 
 When i run the USB i get i get a GRUB-looking screen, with options to:
 1. Try Ubuntu without installing
 2. Install Ubuntu
 3. Check the disk

That means it's booted OK as far as GRUB.

 Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot,
 i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes
 blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get
 the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'.

That sounds like a video driver issue. I think when the menu is
displayed it mentions pressing different F-keys across the bottom of the
screen. IIRC, one offers a failsafe video option. Use that and see if
you get further. The other thing to try is to edit the boot entry and
remove the 'quiet' option at the end - this will hopefully display a
more-helpful error message than a blank screen! Let us know if you need
help with how to do that...

 To check the USB, i tried it on my old laptop (32bit, Celeron M). When
 i did so i got a purple screen with an image of what looks like a
 keyboard and a man, and then a message telling me to try a kernel
 which matches with my machined architecture.

That's expected behaviour when booting a 64-bit live 'disk' on 32-bit
hardware. The purple screen probably briefly appears for the 64-bit
laptop too.

 I then tried a live USB with 32 bit ubuntu and the live USB works fine
 - i am sending this email from this live instance. The same can be
 said for a 32 bit Mint live usb.

On your new hardware?

If you don't have more than 4Gb of RAM on the new laptop, you won't get
much (any?) benefit running the 64-bit version. Even if you have more
than 4Gb of RAM, the installer will install a special PAE kernel that
will use the extra RAM - each process will be limited however. Other
than that, the 32-bit version will do what most people need, even on
64-bit hardware.

 So i am not sure what is going on. If anyone could tell me why the
 64bit install is not working, it would be great as i'd like to get it
 up and running. The only thing i could think of was that i have
 downloaded the amd64.iso, and this is an intel machine, but all the
 sites on the web suggest that this shouldn't make a difference (if it
 does, where might i get an 64 bit version for intel). In addition i am
 not sure why, if this was the problem, my old celeron laptop brings up
 the error message while the new machine just hangs.

amd64 is the correct image. The reason for the name is that there was an
earlier, non-compatible, Intel 64-bit architecture, codenamed Itanium.
This is only used for servers.

amd64 will work on 64-bit AMD, Intel and other desktop processors.

 One more question i have is about dual booting and maintaining my
 recovery partition (something i have not had to do before). From
 GParted i see that the recovery partition is located at the end of the
 hard drive. I am wondering two things:
 1. If i resize the windows partition will the recovery partition move
 next to it?

Not by default, no.

 2. If not would i do well to install ubuntu between the windows and
 recovery partition, and how do i do this since the 'install into
 largest continuous space' option seems to have been replaced by the
 'install alongside windows' option in the installer. Will the
 alongside option put the install in the right place?

I don't know.

However, if you select the Advanced or Manual partitioning option, you
can make the changes you want and then select the partition into which
Ubuntu will be installed.

 As always, any and all help is very much appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 James.
 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition

[Neil Greenwood]

On 16.08.11 15:15, James Morrissey wrote:
 Hi Neil,
 
 Thanks for the response.
 
 Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot,
 i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes
 blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get
 the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'.

 That sounds like a video driver issue. I think when the menu is
 displayed it mentions pressing different F-keys across the bottom of the
 screen. IIRC, one offers a failsafe video option. Use that and see if
 you get further. The other thing to try is to edit the boot entry and
 remove the 'quiet' option at the end - this will hopefully display a
 more-helpful error message than a blank screen! Let us know if you need
 help with how to do that...
 
 When i get to the GRUB screen i can't seem to see any F-keys listed at
 the bottom. All i have is the following;
 Use the  (up arrow) and (down arrow) keys to select which entry is
 highlighted. Press enter to boot the selected OS, 'e' to edit the
 commands before booting or 'c' for a command line.
 
 I am not sure what to do with this, i am guessing that possibility of
 editing command lines is the one you were referring to in terms of the
 'quiet' option. I have no idea how to do this so if you think it would
 be useful, some instructions would be great.

I'm getting confused with an older live disk then!

Yes, this is the editing bit I referred to. Move to the 'Try Ubuntu...'
option but press 'e' instead of 'Enter'. This changes to a different
screen which displays several lines and similar e/c/Enter options at the
bottom. Move to the line that starts 'linux' and press 'e' again. Delete
the word(s) 'quiet' and/or 'splash' from the end of the line, then press
Enter several times until your machine starts booting (I think it's 3
times, but I'm not sure).

Hopefully, your machine will then boot successfully! If it fails,
hopefully it will display an error about what caused the failure...

There are also the ACPI/APCI/etc. options that might be causing the boot
failure. There are 5-10 different options you can add instead of the
'quiet splash' that disable various checks that could be causing the
boot to hang. But that will depend on what you see when you try my
suggestion.

[snip]
 If you don't have more than 4Gb of RAM on the new laptop, you won't get
 much (any?) benefit running the 64-bit version. Even if you have more
 than 4Gb of RAM, the installer will install a special PAE kernel that
 will use the extra RAM - each process will be limited however. Other
 than that, the 32-bit version will do what most people need, even on
 64-bit hardware.
 
 At the moment i have 4GB of RAM installed, but space for another 4GB,
 which i will likely buy in time. So i would like, at some stage, to
 get the 64 bit version working even if i have to install the 32 bit
 for the next while - until video driver issues get sorted.
 

Again, having more than 4GB of RAM is not going to force you to use the
64-bit version. You can use all the RAM you have by switching to the PAE
kernel after upgrading the memory, if the installer doesn't put that on
for you now.

I don't think it's necessarily the fact that video drivers are not
working on the 64-bit version, it's more likely that the installer
hasn't picked the right one. Maybe you could check which driver the
32-bit version uses, and force the 64-bit one to use the same... but I'm
getting out of my depth about how to actually accomplish that!

[snip]


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

[Neil Greenwood]

On 25.07.11 06:44, richard wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 21:24 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
 Seen the Fujitsu LifeBook E751? 10 hours battery life. 15.6 inch
 screen, i5 Core processor.  Bit pricey though as VAT runs it to £700+.


 Acer Aspire Timeline X 4820T is another one. £500 odd but only 14 inch
 screen. Lasts 8 hours.


 Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)


 you might have problems with intel integrated graphics, I have had lots
 of stuff not work properly with mine.
 
 

I've had no problems at all with the Intel integrated graphics in my
Dell Inspiron, ever since 7.10 with an upgrade to every version in
between that and 11.04.

So, your mileage may vary.

Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Call for creating and testing localized ISO images

[Neil Greenwood]

On 22.07.11 10:57, Alan Pope wrote:
 Anyone fancy helping out with this.
 
 We're looking to make localised en_GB ISO images, at the moment the
 default ISO is en_US (so American keyboard layout, dictionary etc).
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 

I'm interested. I'll also look at making some cy_GB images for the Welsh
translations.

Neil.

PS. Is this why Canonical stopped Ship-it? :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle 11g Trouble

[Neil Greenwood]

On 19.07.11 15:00, Dave Hanson wrote:
 Steve - mine starts with #! /bin/sh, which from some 'googling' tells me
 it's a bourne shell, the Ubuntu variant is bash. So does that mean it
 cannot be ran on Ubuntu or is it possible to use a different shell?
 

That might be the problem. On Ubuntu, /bin/sh is a symbolic link to
dash, which is mostly compatible with bash (and the original Bourne
shell sh), but has some slight differences.

You could try typing bash /media/runInstaller to see if that fixes the
error message. The error looks like you're hitting one of the syntax
incompatibilities.

HTH
Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] hard disk problem ?

[Neil Greenwood]

On Dydd Gwener 08 mis Gorffennaf 2011 17:37:49 BST, alan c wrote:
 On 08/07/11 10:56, Yorvyk wrote:
 
 'The adoption of compulsory open standards will help government
 to avoid lengthy vendor lock-in'
 
 What does this mean?  Are the government's open standards the same
 as we would understand them?  Is open source and open standards the
 same thing?
 

To follow up with an example: OpenOffice.org and Libre Office are two
open software (actually Free/Libre software) programs that both support
the Open Document Format (ODF) open standard.

So ODF says how the software must store the documents: that's the standard.

Other open standards (although not being referred to in this policy)
include things like TCP/IP, HTTP, POP and IMAP for email, etc., etc.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] hard disk problem ?

[Neil Greenwood]

Ar Dydd Iau 07 mis Gorffennaf 2011 08:11:40 BST, ysgrifennodd john 
beddard:
 Linux doesn't seem to give a warning message when the hard-disk is
   full, instead the system seem to die and shut down.
 
 Has anyone come across this before. They said it was their main reason
 for not using Ubuntu ?
 
  John

Ubuntu definitely pops up a message when the disk space gets low (as 
long as it doesn't happen too quickly!), and offers help cleaning up to 
make more space. I can't remember exactly which program is included in 
the link: it could be baobab, a.k.a. Disk Usage Analyser.

I saw it a couple of times while I was dual-booting this work PC, but 
then I removed the Windows partition and I haven't seen it since!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Question on dual-booting 11.04 and Windows 7

[Neil Greenwood]

On 05.07.11 18:04, alan c wrote:
 2) My understanding is that both vista and windows 7 are likely to
 place system files at the end of the partition, which means that a
 third party partition editor (such as gparted, as used in Ubuntu etc)
 may resize the partitons ok, but you may find that the windows file
 system is damaged. It may be repairable I expect, I am not sure. A
 frequent reccommendation is to let vista or windows 7 resize its own
 partition first, using its own tools. The disadvantage of this is that
 it may not release as much HD space as you may want.

I don't know the answer to the OP's question, since I normally manually
partition in the installer.

However, the Ubiquity installer uses GParted's libraries to handle
filesystems. These can move files, including system files, and fix
partitions as they get resized.

There are a few occasions where MS has changed the proprietary format
when it's better to use a newer version of GParted (e.g. a GParted live
CD) rather than the version on the Ubuntu CD. Normally, I've found
everything works OK though with a recent Ubuntu CD.

I'd probably use a GParted CD to partition now if I was installing 10.04
LTS, but 11.04 should be fine.

 
 3) Consider and prepare for a reinstall or full recovery if things go
 badly for you, just in case.
 

This is *very* *good* *advice*! Especially when you're dealing with
proprietary filesystems, make sure you have a copy of anything you
couldn't bear to lose.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

[Neil Greenwood]

On 06.07.11 11:32, Byte Soup wrote:
 
 Quoting from the site:
 
 An annual licence costs just £500 +VAT a year and includes unlimited
 use both at school and at home. This price is based on schools with
 100-500 pupils. Please contact 2Simple if your school is outside of
 this range.
 
 Does this seem expensive if there are foss alternatives?
 

That sounds very reasonable to me. Think of how many developers that
will pay for...

The bit I object to is that with FlashBlock and NoScript, I see no
content on the front page. :-)


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[ubuntu-uk] Regional pages was Re: Ubuntu South west loco team page

[Neil Greenwood]

On 27.06.11 17:46, Alan Bell wrote:

We have pages covering all the diagonal compass points listing people,
LUGs and other resources in that general direction. This is awesome, but
on a point of terminology they can't be called LoCo teams, the NorthEast
page is a good model and I would like to see the others like this
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast if they get called LoCo teams
it would cause confusion and trouble for our Ubuntu-UK LoCo reapproval
application, so lets call them focus groups, or pages listing stuff in
that corner of the country

for reference here are the corners:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthWest
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthWest
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthEast

and it would be great if folk could update their respective corner using
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast as a template. We are going to
have a bit of a day of updating the reapproval application tomorrow in
advance of the team meeting at 9PM so it would be great if people could
pile on to IRC and help http://ubuntu-uk.org/join-the-conversation/

thanks,

Alan Bell
Ubuntu UK LoCo Team Leader




So, where does Wales fit in here? Possibly the south Wales team could 
fit in the SouthWest page. Or maybe there ought to be a separate page 
for Wales, like Scotland has.


WDYT?

Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

[Neil Greenwood]

On Jun 11, 2011 2:40 PM, Will Bickerstaff will.bickerst...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:33 PM, J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com
wrote:
[snip]
 aren't going to spend the time reformatting a newsletter in HTML
 format once they've made it in Word (or even worse, Publisher). Hence,
 save as a PDF, done.


 I couldn't agree more. PDF if by far the easiest option for many schools
and probably the most widely viewable format. Whats more interesting  is the
variety of tools schools are using to create the PDFs, our local schools
appear to all be using different tools, Adobe InDesign, Microsoft Publisher,
Serif Page Plus etc. At least they have the sense to convert from these to a
largely universal format. I couldn't imagine or wouldn't expect a school to
be converting a well laid out newsletter produced in dedicated publishing
software which is no doubt primarily designed for print into an equally
appealing HTML representation.


We don't get the PDF version, just the .pub file gets emailed! I must speak
to other parents and see how easy they are to view on Windows. I've found a
website that converts them...

It's a matter of training, time and having the right software - our children
brought home a note before half-term apologizing that the Welsh language
school cannot do dinner money statements in anything other than English. The
software only does English.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Simple backup script

[Neil Greenwood]

On 2 June 2011 18:07, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jun 2, 2011 5:50 PM, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I would say it depends on what you mean by 'wrong'

 I handle the backups for a local government, so yes, that is wrong, very
 wrong.


 I know where you're coming from. I think the list has quite a few  public
 sector members in various capacities ;-)

 But it depends what you need it for. If you are happy with the retention
 that that gives you, then that's fine.


 Sorry. I've probably given you the wrong impression. Data from the backup
 directory would be backed up too another box. That box in turn is backed up
 elsewhere. 7 days is the local retention only.

 The only suggestion I would make is that you should create the backup
 first, and only if the backup is created successfully should you delete the
 old one


 Again, my fault, but the final script would run validation checks. I was
 basically asking if people use find rather than over complicating things as
 I've seen elsewhere. I wouldn't use that script as is.

 Chris

I've started using rsnapshot. It does something similar with the local
retention, but each file which is identical (between retained backups)
is hard-linked rather than taking multiple disk blocks.

I set up the config file once (which took 2 attempts and maybe 2.5
hours in total), set up cron and it just runs.


The problem I find with hand-rolled backup scripts (which I've used in
the past) is that you're the one maintaining them...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microsoft proprietary file types?

[Neil Greenwood]

On 20.05.11 07:10, Sean Miller wrote:
 On 20 May 2011 07:00, Paul Morgan-Roach roa...@roachy.net
 mailto:roa...@roachy.net wrote:

 My advice - open the document if you can.  If it's something that
 depends on layout heavily, ask for it as a jpg or pdf. 


 Actually, it's got significantly better of late...

 Presentations should not be a major issue... people should not be
 creating layout-critical documents in 'Word' anyway... it's not what
 word processors are for

 Sean


One of my colleagues used Word to edit a Wiki page this week - it really
broke the formatting funnily enough!

So you're right, it's not what word processors are for... but it's
possibly the thing they'll get used for.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Will kernel problems in Maverick mean i have kernel problems in Natty?

[Neil Greenwood]

On 28.04.11 12:09, J Fernyhough wrote:
 Download the three debs appropriate to your architecture (i386 for
 32-bit, amd64 for 64-bit. To find out write uname -a in a terminal),
 e.g. for 32-bit:

 linux-headers-2.6.38-02063804-generic_2.6.38-02063804.201104221009_i386.deb
 linux-headers-2.6.38-02063804_2.6.38-02063804.201104221009_all.deb
 linux-image-2.6.38-02063804-generic_2.6.38-02063804.201104221009_i386.deb

 Save them into the same directory, ideally with nothing else in it,
 then in a terminal cd to that directory and install, e.g.:

 $ cd download/kernel
 $ sudo dpkg -i *,.deb

Just to note, there's a typo here. The second command should be sudo
dpkg -i *.deb

HTH
Neil.

 This will install the kernel. Keep in mind that it's likely that any
 proprietary graphics drivers (probably nvidia, almost definitely
 fglrx) will break and not install correctly unless you have the x-swat
 ppa added to your software sources.
 Hope this helps!

 Jonathon



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless Network Connectivity

[Neil Greenwood]

Sounds like an IPv6 problem, probably in Firefox. IIRC, you change this in
the about:config settings. I'll look through the archive to check...

Cofion/Regards,
Neil.
On 6 Apr 2011 20:10, Steve Flynn anothermindb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/04/11 20:00, Phil Wood wrote:

 To be clear; I can connect to my wireless network, but running Firefox
 on any website ellicits:

 *The connection has timed out - The server at **www.bbc.co.uk*
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/*is taking too long to respond*.

 Via a terminal window I can successfully ping www.bbc.co.uk
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/ .

 I run Firefox on a desktop PC and this also connects (W7) OK. I've
 tried to copy the Firefox settings as best as I can, without success.


 Have you set up a proxy entry in Firefox? Do you need one for you
location?

 The fact that you can ping the website shows traffic is getting out...
 if you view the site in lynx (a purely text based browser which will
 probably require installation via

 sudo apt-get install lynx-cur

 ... do you get any sight of the site, if you pardon the pun?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Removing Windows dual boot

[Neil Greenwood]

On 17 March 2011 13:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a dual-boot machine - Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.04. I'm looking to
 remove the Windows part but unfortunately the Ubuntun install is on an
 extended partition. Is there any way to convert that extended partition to
 the active partition, or do I have to reformat and re-install?
 --

You don't need to remove the extended partition. Linux is quite happy
if the disk only has logical partitions inside a single extended
partition. There is no requirement for a primary partition.

If you really want to convert, you have to delete the extended
partition and create a new primary partition.

Otherwise, if there's room, you could reformat the ex-Windows
partition and copy the Ubuntu partition into it, then delete the old
Ubuntu partition and resize to make use of all the disk.


HTH
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quiz Night!

[Neil Greenwood]

On 3 March 2011 22:58, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote:
 As you may have read in the minutes of the meeting this evening
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20110210 we are going to hold a
 quiz night at some point in April. Questions will be mostly about Ubuntu, or

Of course, I clicked the meeting link, too a look through it, couldn't
see a quiz mentioned, even searched the page...then I noticed the date
was wrong!

For anyone else who couldn't attend the meeting and wanted to look at
the minutes, the correct link is
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20110303

Do I need to create a Doodle account to vote? I've got NoScript
running, so that might be the problem...


Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

[Neil Greenwood]

On 5 Mar 2011, at 08:14, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote:


On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 19:58 +, John MM wrote:
Ok, I just wondered, can I ask the question again, I have managed  
to get
the computers to see each other, but I cannot get Nautilus to show  
the
directories, from either the Ubuntu partition or the Windows  
Partition.
When I go into PlacesNetwork, I click on the Icon in there, and  
still

get Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from
server. I have searched for that using Google, not much comes up,  
that I

can understand anyway. I am still wondering if it is a
Permissions/ownership thing. Is there a command in the Terminal I can
use to see why Nautilus camt view the files.



Not sure if this will help, but I've never got nautilus to work  
happily
in that manner with SMB, however, if you hit ctrl+l in a nautilus  
window
it will drop you into the address bar. Now just type smb:// 
192.168.x.x/

and hit enter.


Just to clarify here, since John is still learning and sometimes we  
have't been explicit enough; you would replace the x.x with the  
appropriate numbers for your network, or replace the whole 192.168.x.x  
with the name of your other machine. Best to try with the numeric  
addresses first.



Cofion/Regards,
Neil


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