Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hello is it possible for me to buy a ubuntu dvd

[William Anderson]

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 4:53 PM Mark Dorrington  wrote:
> Steven where is the best place to purchase a ubuntu dvd as i am on pay as you 
> go for my internet as i do not like contracts
> due to the complexed small print on the contract.

Mark,

if by "pay as you go", you mean using a mobile PAYG plan and some sort
of wifi hotspot to access the Internet, most mobile providers have
data packs or add-ons you can use on PAYG plans, e.g. Giffgaff's goody
bags, three data packs, Vodafone bundles, O2 bundles, EE packs, etc.

An Ubuntu 21.04 ISO is about 2.6 GiB in size. By purchasing a one-off
add-on to your PAYG plan, you'd be able to download the ISO and then
burn it to disc at your own leisure. Most networks do way more than 3
GiB of data for a month for around a tenner.

However, if by "pay as you go", you mean a metered landline Internet
access product, then ... wow. I didn't know those things still
existed.

If you're still determined to purchase a physical DVD from a vendor,
as both Steven and the other Mark said, try thelinuxshop.co.uk.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to get Ubuntu DVDs?

[William Anderson]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 12:57 AM  wrote:
> I need to have an Ubuntu install DVD burned for me... and I don’t have a 
> burner.
>
> Can anyone help?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubuntu-Linux-18-04-4-Latest-Version/dp/B085FS9JQ5

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New to Ubuntu

[William Anderson]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:06 PM Peter Callum  wrote:
> I am new to this and am having a few problems with what the best way of 
> getting assistance is. I keep getting messages from livepatch saying that 
> there is a problem.

Could you share what those messages are?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ppa problem

[William Anderson]

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:33 PM Jim Price  wrote:
> I've ended up in a bit of a bind. I updated from 14.04 to 16.04, which
> seemed to go well but then I noticed that VLC was no longer installed.
> On trying to re-install it, it could not find its dependency on vlc-nox.
> vlc-nox is not in the 16.04 repo. I tried all the googleable
> suggestions, but it would seem that as the version I had was installed
> from a ppa and although the ppa is disabled (it got that way during the
> upgrade) even re-enabling it didn't allow me to reinstall vlc and then
> ppa-purge it. The ppa was the videolan stable repo. Is there any way of
> telling the apt database that the package details (specifically the
> dependencies I guess) are not correct any more for vlc and it should
> reload them from the universe repo?

There's a few different things you could try, but you could try these
steps (carefully, or NOT AT ALL if you're not 100% sure what you're
doing):

# this is from askubuntu: https://askubuntu.com/a/148968
# look at what PPAs you have installed, and look for
# one with VLC in the name
for APT in $(find /etc/apt/ -name \*.list); do \
 grep -o "^deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/[a-z0-9\-]\+/[a-z0-9\-]\+; ${APT} \
 | while read ENTRY ; do USER=`echo ${ENTRY} | cut -d/ -f4`; \
 PPA=$(echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f5); echo ppa:${USER}/${PPA}; \
 done; done | grep -i vlc

# If you get an output from the above like "ppa:vlc/vlc", then
# let's remove that PPA repo
apt-add-repository -r ppa:vlc/vlc
# change ppa:vlc/vlc for whatever PPA you got from that search
# press RETURN or ENTER to remove the PPA

# purge all VLC packages (this will purge EVERY package
# with a name starting with the letters vlc)
apt-get purge $(dpkg -l vlc\* | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}')

# then let's make doubly sure universe is there
apt-add-repository -r universe
apt-get -qq update
apt-add-repository universe
apt-get -qq update

# then let's install your package
apt-get install vlc-nox
# (or whatever you're trying to install)

If any of that doesn't make sense, DON'T RUN IT, but hopefully it'll
put you in the right direction.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any reasons why Ubuntu(-MATE) wouldn't work on this laptop?

[William Anderson]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Adam Funk  wrote:
> I'm shopping around for a new work laptop, & we have to buy it from
> Insight.

If you can stretch your budget, go for a Thinkpad as others have
suggested (albeit from suppliers you've said aren't suitable):

http://www.uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/laptops-and-notebooks/0007024438-0001
https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201702-25371/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 - incomplete Lois McNab

[William Anderson]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Michael
 wrote:
> [nothing]

... OK?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 - incomplete Lois McNab

[William Anderson]

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Colin Law  wrote:
> First a couple of points about protocol on this list.  Please don't
> top post. Insert your reply into the previous message at appropriate
> points.  Also please post in plain text not html.  Thanks.
> [previous message quoted in entirety]

Also, trim your posts ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meetup.com

[William Anderson]

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gareth France
 wrote:
> I am a member of meetup.com and of the Ubuntu meetup group on there. I think
> it's a fantastic idea as I'm not personally aware of any regularly meeting
> enthusiast group for Ubuntu in the UK.
>
> However it doesn't currently have a group owner and will be deleted in 7
> days if nobody claims it. I'd love to but for groups with more than 50
> members there is a $14.99+ fee per month to pay and I simply can't afford
> the extra expense.

Has there ever been a meeting?  It doesn't look like it.  Have you
considered going to a LUG meeting instead?  You may not find a
laser-focus on Ubuntu, but I guarantee at any LUG meet, at least one
other person is using it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

[William Anderson]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Stuart Ward <stuart.w...@bcs.org> wrote:
> On 15 April 2016 at 00:35, William Anderson <ne...@well.com> wrote:
>>
>> From where?! :)
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262302223446 [snip]

Not too shabby!

I notice Dell are doing base-model Latitude 3450s for £189 ex VAT
right now ... http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/latitude-3450-laptop/pd

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

[William Anderson]

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Stuart Ward  wrote:
> On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:
>> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this one)
>> would be appreciated too.
>
> I recently got a ex=-corporate thinkpad for under £200, with no OS,
> Quad i7 4G memory.

From where?! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

[William Anderson]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Jim Price  wrote:
> Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment by
> cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:

I don't mean to derail the conversation, but if you are paying by
cheque, is this because you do not have a debit card for your bank
account from which you are drawing the cheque?  Have you considered
using a prepaid debit card instead?  I'd say most if not all online
stores will not accept cheques as payment these days due to the long
turnaround time and stronger possibility of payment failure
(debit/credit cards give a virtually immediate payment verification
response to the supplier).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!

[William Anderson]

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Really? What have I said about console repairs during the course of this
 thread exactly?

I think Liam was referring to the fact you said you were an IT
technician at first.  You only mentioned repairing consoles about two
hours ago.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!

[William Anderson]

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought I would just bring the experiences I'm having with Packard Bell /
 Acer to everyone's attention. I've been unhappy with my laptop since the day
 I got it and it seems to be falling apart very rapidly. I have been trying
 to get it looked at but it's like pulling teeth!

 Oddly enough linux hasn't been the biggest stumbling block. Anyway, if
 anyone fancies a giggle the entire conversation with them is logged on my
 blog page:

 http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=209

After reading this, it looks like you've had a fairly typical
experience: you've engaged outsourced frontline support for a low-tier
electronics manufacturer, and you've wandered outside the bounds of
their scripts.  When dealing with a box shifter like Packard Bell, the
easiest way to get a result is conform as much as possible to their
requests and get the machine shipped off as soon as possible
(preferably covered by a home and contents or business asset policy).
If you can send it back with a relatively stock OS install, even
better.

And I'm afraid I agree with Liam here.  If the data on the laptop (one
which you readily admit is junk) is of any material importance to
you or your business, get it backed up by whatever means necessary.  I
personally use a mixture of rsnapshot (for my Ubuntu servers) and Time
Machine (for my Mac desktops/laptops) to give me a comprehensive layer
of recoverable backup data.  If you're unable to invest in a hard disc
to drop data onto, have you considered a bunch of DVD-Rs?  Or perhaps
you'd be able to temporarily borrow a USB HDD, or USB-SATA adapter and
a regular 2.5/3.5 drive, from a fellow IT type?  Perhaps someone on
list has some spare kit they could punt your way?

Also, you're concerned about retaining your data to run your business
- how will you access the data if the laptop is gone?  If you're
planning to use the Dell you mentioned, do you literally have 500GiB
used on your Packard Bell?  If it's all in $HOME, do a du -sch ~ - if
the answer is  free capacity of Dell computer, sorted!  If not, see
borrowing tips above!

Re: the phone number, just search for Acer on saynoto0870.com - there
are several hits which match or closely match the number you mentioned
in your blog post.

I think you're unnecessarily making a rod for your own back here when
some creative thinking could help you.  Rather than asking us to
giggle at a bunch of hapless support monkeys being forced outside of
the scope of their limited frontline support capabilities, ask the
community to help you out! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!

[William Anderson]

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll be using a desktop for the duration the machine is away. I have been
 looking at incremental backup solutions. What I'd like to do is setup a
 system where it connects to an FTP server and only backs up the data that
 has changed since last backup. Something I would trigger rather than
 scheduled as I'm on mobile broadband and would need to do backups whenever I
 was near a proper broadband connection. I've found quite a few solutions
 which 'sort of' do this as I'd like but most don't cut it and some simply
 refused to connect to my server. Do you have any suggestions which may help?

Don't use FTP unless you plan to pre-encrypt the backup first (since
you will be sending the data in the clear; duplicity will do this
using gpg as the pre-upload/store encrypt mechanism).  If you can
backup to somewhere that does ssh+rsync, use rsnapshot.  Both are
packaged within Ubuntu.  rsnapshot prefers to run automatically from
cron (/etc/cron.d/rsnapshot) but you can run it manually if you
prefer.

You can get a cheap Ubuntu server from kimsufi.co.uk (OVH) for a
tenner a month that has 0.5TiB storage and 5TiB/mo traffic allowance,
ample as a backup/DR solution.

 Bad customer service is something which really winds me up and you have hit
 the nail on the head there. This is the customer service equivalent of
 painting by numbers. The collection has been arranged now and fingers

I wasn't suggesting you were receiving bad customer service, I was
suggesting you were receiving *cheap* customer service, with limited
scope to move beyond the standard support script.

Just out of interest, how have you handled this hard disc issue?

 crossed they will fix it. I know that my laptops always take quite a
 pounding but I can only think of one other which faired this badly, made by
 a company called Hi-Grade. I really don't expect a machine to be virging on
 unusable after only 8 months, regardless of how cheap it is.

You're surely aware of the consumer maxim, you get what you pay for.
 Granted this is a personal preference within my own realm of income
and affordability, but this is why I usually wait until I have enough
cash to buy an Apple computer.  The build quality is usually stunning,
and the level of support is unsurpassed.  If you're going to
buy/accept a system manufactured by a boxshifter like Packard Bell,
don't expect stellar levels of support.

In my experience, the cheaper the laptop, the less reliability you
should expect from it, and the less support you should expect from the
manufacturer.  I have literally kicked the heck out of my MacBook Pros
and they have all lived to tell the tale (the slight dent on the lid
of one notwithstanding).  I've also suffered maladies such as dead
GPUs on the mainboard, and they have been dealt with inside of 90
minutes (albeit under warranty with the highest tier of support
pre-purchased [ProCare]).

You get what you pay for.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!

[William Anderson]

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 [snip]

 I'm not going to persue this 'argument'. Go work it out for your selves. I
 only pop in here rarely, the conversations from the last couple of threads
 enforce that.

 you are totally wrong in lambasting some one who has limited equipment to
 back up his own system for reasons you have:
 1) No idea of
 2) Have not asked.

This conversation was initially framed as Packard Bell support suck,
and here's the proof so you can laugh at it.  Some unwarranted
insults aside, I think there has been some important best practice
advice offered here.  If you plan to run a business utilising any form
of computing device, and plan to store business critical data on
that/those device(s), you should additionally plan for and budget for
a backup solution.  You wouldn't stick company formation documents,
tax returns or customer invoices at the bottom of your rubbish bin in
the vain hope that your bin isn't collected and emptied, you'd put it
in a lock safe, storage box or filing cabinet, and you'd probably keep
copies, likely offsite, as well. Just In Case.  You should consider
data which your business relies upon with the same respect and duty of
care.

 The ubuntu-uk LoCo needs to less concentrate on being approved each time as
 a LoCo and instead look into the issues people have and then actually work
 out why the Simple answers are not available to them.

Again, this issue is that someone received a budget class computer
from a low-tier manufacturer, and has expected a premium level of
customer support.  To expect that may not be unreasonable, but to be
confronted with budget-level support from a budget manufacturer is not
surprising, or uncommon.

 I'll give you a hint... I bought and shipped a replacement keyboard for a
 laptop to one of lubuntu testers.

Well done, community spirit at it's finest.

 Get of your high horse with infinate resources and actually help those with
 finite resourses, I'm saddened to see the attitude from this LoCo to such a
 person.

I did mention (over six and a half hours ago) that Gareth could ask
around to see if anyone locally or here on the list had anything to
spare to assist him.  Whether or not something has happened to that
effect off-list is unknown.  In addition, some very useful advice has
been given to assist Gareth in building up a backup solution or
procuring a very cheap solution to adding more storage.  I don't
believe it's unfair to offer a small measure of constructive criticism
in the same thread as some rather cheap shots were being taken towards
Packard Bell.

 @ Alan: Get this stupidity stopped

Down with that sort of thing. Careful now!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!

[William Anderson]

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll bare the ftp advice in mind and I agree you do get what you pay for,
 but that doesn't make it any less frustrating, especially when they treat
 you like an idiot when you know full well what the problem is.

I don't believe they were treating you like an idiot.  You need to
understand how frontline customer support, especially for large
companies such as Packard Bell, works.  The customer support
representatives likely have a wide range of IT experience and
knowledge.  Their training will be focused on headline issues that can
be easily solved without wasting too much time on triage.  Their
strongest experience will likely be limited to Packard Bell products
and their supported suppliers parts and software, i.e. Microsoft
Windows.  They will not expect you to be, nor will they be able to
support you as, a power user, geek, technician or whatever you feel
elevates your tech chops above your fellow man; their training will be
strongly geared around supporting customers who have little to no
knowledge of how computers actually work.

If you had somehow had your case escalated to a higher tier of
support, you would most likely a) have been dealing with native or
fluent English speakers in the UK or US, and b) have gained empathy
from a fellow, more experienced IT bod as to your woes and any
self-performed diagnostics you would have done prior to opening the
case.  But unfortunately you didn't, so you are treated the same as
everyone else: as someone who has an electronic device which normally
does stuff, but now doesn't do some or all of the stuff it normally
does.  They cannot deviate from this, it is how they are trained, and
it usually works quite efficiently.

Imagine you know stuff about how the public telephone network
operates, and you phone BT about a problem with your line,  and you
start talking about crosstalk, line attenuation and SS7 routing.  The
CS rep's head would likely explode.

Just as large companies generally treat customers with kid gloves when
they're making support requests, you should do the same in return.  By
all means try and outline your situation to see what they say in
return, but if they are unable to deviate from their scripts, and are
unwilling to escalate to a higher tier of support, there's not much
point in fighting further.  Just comply and get it over with.

Or buy a more expensive laptop next time!  KIDDING :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Judge bans Microsoft Word sales

[William Anderson]

Paul Sutton wrote:
 Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 I disagree. Making *everything* open source would be pyrrhic panacea. 
 Competition is good. Competition is what has spurned the FOSS movement 
 and proprietary vendors alike. Trying to eradicate the proprietary 
 market is unrealistic and would stifle innovation.
 
 what does pyrrhic panacea mean? Would it be possible to use Plain
 English please,  so people know what you are talking about

A pyrrhic (pirr-ik) victory means winning something at a terrible cost
to yourself, referring to King Pyrrhus of Epirus, who fought and won
battles against the Romans in 280 BC and 278 BC, but lost a great number
of his soldiers, including key personnel and his close friends.

A panacea (pan-ah-see-ah) means something that can solve all problems,
or a medicine or remedy that can cure all ills and diseases, and extend
life.  It refers to Panakea (Πανάκεια), the Greek goddess of healing,
who was said to heal the sick with potion.

So I guess from those two definitions, Alan means that making everything
open source would be something that could solve all problems, but at a
terrible cost to us all.

I disagree that everyone should use Plain English, however; if you're
not sure what a word means, look it up and extend your vocabulary :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anti-Virus for Ubuntu (Hard Heron 8.04)? Hardware diagnostics?

[William Anderson]

Alex Birchall wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Would anyone recommend an antivirus product for an Ubuntu Hardy Heron
 8.04 server?
 
 Also, I have a suspicion that our server may have a hardware fault.
 This is because yesterday the server shutdown when I attempted to
 establish a remote session with Secure Shell.  This happened twice in
 October last year, but not since.  I could find no evidence of a
 run-away process, which I was told could also be the cause of a
 shutdown.
 
 I already know about memtest, but can anyone recommend other useful
 diagnostic tools?

chkrootkit could be useful if someone/something has planted some nasties
in your server, ClamAV as mentioned for virus scanning, lmsensors (and
related tools) to check on what your server is trying to tell you (maybe
it's getting too hot under load and crapping out, maybe a fan is busted
inside, etc) and if it happens again, I'd be on the phone to the vendor
getting an engineer out to look at it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automatically moving mail from a specific sender to a certain file?

[William Anderson]

James Milligan wrote:
 [snip]
 
 5. 'Match any of the following'
 
 6. Subject - Contains - '[ubuntu-uk]' for the Ubuntu UK list (this one)

This will fail if someone replies to you directly (i.e. not a reply to
the mailing list) using a message you posted to the list, as unless the
subject line is edited, it will still contain [ubuntu-uk].  You're also
less likely to accidentally reply to the list from a mail sent directly
to yourself, thus you won't accidentally expose any personal information.

For mailman mailing lists such as this, you're better to match as follows:

- instead of choosing 'Subject', select 'Customize' from the drop down
- in the New Message Header dialog, type X-BeenThere then click Add,
  then OK
- select X-BeenThere, select is, then type ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
- click OK (assuming you've left the folder move action alone)

Now if someone replies to you directly, it will land in your inbox
instead of being lost within the list posts themselves.  If you want to
do that, of course :)

If you're subscribed to a majordomo list or a list fed by other
software, use Ctrl+U when reading a message to see the headers and you
can figure it out from there, e.g. List-Id is a popular one.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automatically moving mail from a specific sender to a certain file?

[William Anderson]

Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 [snip]
 
 I use gmane.org for most lists and mozilla provide their lists on a news 
 feed.
 
 Filters work fine too, but I find the lists-on-news keeps them out of 
 my inboxes and just suits the way I like to do things.

I used to do this a long time ago, but it got frustrating for me, as I
had to configure it on each machine I wanted to use it on, whereas
wherever I had IMAP configured, I had access to all my lists.

 [snip]
 
 This message is being sent to Newsgroup: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british

Whoever named that newsgroup needs a slap; British != UK.

 PS - I Hope this is useful. It is just *another* way of doing things. 
 Neither is better or more or less correct.

Of course, TMTOWTDI :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changing ownership.......

[William Anderson]

Neil Greenwood wrote:
 [snip]
 It always works to put the options straight after the command.

absolutely, it's the best way.  but knowing the cheats are fun too :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reminder - DFEY-NW tomorrow :: Young Rewired State Announcements

[William Anderson]

Tim Dobson wrote:
 Just a reminder that the DFEY-NW meeting is taking place tomorrow from 
 12:00pm - ~3:30pm
 
 ===
 
 DFEY-NW (Digital Freedom in Education  Youth - North West) is a group 
 aiming to provide a social space for young people interested in 
 technology, issues of freedom and technology in relation to education.

I'm not young, and I'm not in the North West of England.  I know these
messages aren't very frequent, but still ...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changing ownership.......

[William Anderson]

John Matthews wrote:
 Hi, I wonder if somebody can help. I have uploaded a something to my 
 server, I need to change the ownership. I managed to change the folders 
 ownership, but not everything inside.
 
 the script I used was
 
 sudo chown www-data:www-data and filename
 
 I think I need to add the -R some where to make it recursive, but not 
 sure where to add it. Should it be after the filename, or before.

command flags almost always go after the command and before the rest of
the parameters.  See the appropriate man page for specific usage, as
there are occasionally exceptions.

You may want to use -v with chown to see what's being changed.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Auto Mounting Network Shares

[William Anderson]

Rob Beard wrote:
 [snip]
 
 To get round having to use two different connections for inside the 
 network and outside the network I have setup dnsmasq on my server and 
 added the hostnames of each machine and the DynDNS domain name to the 
 /etc/hosts file so they point to the internal IP address.

Neat trick.  I do something similar, albeit more complex, with bind and
views, so the world sees one lookup result while inside my network
border, I see a different result :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] text to speech apps

[William Anderson]

javadayaz wrote:
 i know this is probably a stupid question. But how well does it work? in
 your personal experience.

I've pointed festival at text from news.bbc.co.uk in the past, and it
comes out very well; depends on which voice you use, of course.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What would Linus Pauling think about 'Linux Certified'?

[William Anderson]

Norman Silverstone wrote:
 We are the borg. You will be assimilated.

 Now, now you are starting to show your age.
 That's a bit unfair, TNG is on heavy rotation on Bravo, Virgin 1, et al
 all the time :)
 
 My humble apologies, the wonders of 'cable' I presume and the shortage
 of good SF?

Bravo is available on satellite and cable (I have Sky), and Virgin 1 is
on all digital platforms, incl. Freeview.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Android on iPhone

[William Anderson]

Rob Beard wrote:
 Daniel Drummond wrote:
 I haven't watched this yet, but sounds interesting: 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMmDQpfCcMs

 YouTube video of Window 95 on the iPhone. Sourced from Guardian Tech  
 Twitter.

 James
 
 I would take those claims with a pinch of salt.  Surely it is easier to 
 get an open source OS which already supports the ARM architecture onto a 
 phone, than a closed source 15 year old OS with no ARM support at all.

 Sounds (and looks) more like they wrote an iphone app that looks like 
 windows 95.  Or it could even be a video of windows booting.

 Dan
   
 Looking at the video, it says it's an 80486 CPU with 32MB Ram.  I
 wouldn't be surprised if what they have done is converted something like
 DOSBox to run on the iPhone.

That's exactly what they did.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choosing a new phone

[William Anderson]

Not sure how much this has to do with Ubuntu ... :) but anyway:

Jai Harrison wrote:
 Hey everyone,
 
 I have been using a Nokia 3220 since around late 2004. Recently I've
 been doing so over the free Blyk network but as that's now shutting
 down (in 2 and 1/2 weeks) I'm in need of a new phone network. My
 phone's battery dies very quickly (although I just ordered a
 replacement one to maintain some use of the phone).

If you're happy with the coverage you get with Blyk, you may want to
move to Orange, it's the same network (Blyk are/were an Orange MVNO, and
Orange are going to retain the service format in some manner).

 As I now need to get a new network I figured it would be great to have
 internet access out and about. Of course this means getting a modern
 phone as well but I've been planning on replacing my current phone for
 a *long* time.
 
 Also factor in that I'm a student who's never had a contract before so
 the idea is very daunting to me. Especially because of almost no
 income and mostly loans. I figure that I will have to take a contract
 to get decent rates for texts/minutes and internet.

Why?  If you're reticient to commit to a contract, especially if you
have low income, stick to PAYG or sim-only short term contracts (30
days).  As a cautionary tale, I bought an E71+18mo contract in November
2008, and I lost my job in March; I still have to pay for the E71 until
May 2010.

The networks are quite keen to retain PAYG customers, so they will do
offers and bundles to give you allowances while keeping you off a
contract.  T-Mobile, for example, do 'boosters', for example £20 for 300
minutes and unlimited texts for 30 days.

 So next comes two epically difficult tasks:
 1) Find a network with decent rates on texts, minutes and a reasonable
 unlimited plan (500mb is not reasonable). At the same time don't
 lock myself into an 18-24 month contract.

They're all much of a muchness when it comes to tariff offerings, you'll
be wading through different offers of minutes, texts and the like.  What
you will have a problem with is getting any of that on contract with a
decent handset without committing to a minimum term.

If you ditch the idea of upgrading your handset, as I mentioned there
are options for pay monthly, sim only, no/short minimum term contracts,
e.g. T-Mobile Solo, O2 Simplicity, etc.

 2) Select a phone that complements the above network. Offering me a
 decent web browser, much customisability (geek factor), good calendar
 system for my awful memory, decent media playback (ogg would be a plus
 but I suppose I could always write a script to convert to MP3 when
 copying files over), anything else that people think is essential(?)
 Bluetooth compatibility with Ubuntu would be useful.

I can't offer much advice here, having always connected my trusty Nokias
(currently on handsets #10 and #11!) either to PC Suite on win32, or
straight bluetooth from Mac OS X.  I suspect the ubiquity of Nokia
handsets means you shouldn't have too much hassle pushing and pulling
content from Ubuntu, but it may depend on your requirements.  YMMV.

 I think that what complements my needs best in terms of a phone might
 be an Android one but I think they cost around £400 so wondering what
 everyone else has/knows of.

You'll be lucky to get an Android handset on a short term contract.
It'll be a miracle to get it as a PAYG bundle.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What would Linus Pauling think about 'Linux Certified'?

[William Anderson]

Norman Silverstone wrote:
 We are the borg. You will be assimilated.

 Now, now you are starting to show your age.

That's a bit unfair, TNG is on heavy rotation on Bravo, Virgin 1, et al
all the time :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution and MS Exchange 2007

[William Anderson]

Ian Pascoe wrote:
 Oh dear, the project seems to be manned by Trekkies!  See the release names.

You'd hate my network then ... http://neuro.me.uk/tech/ :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting console VGA mode

[William Anderson]

Liam Proven wrote:
 [snip]
 
 #4 Being green involves re-using old kit that still works. Typically
 half or more of the energy used in the lifetime of a piece of IT
 equipment is spent making it, not running it. By making its working
 life as long as possible, you save energy; by replacing working kit
 with something newer, you waste energy.

Or you could recycle the old displays and use a KVM switch instead,
which would save using the energy required for the extra display in the
first place :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

[William Anderson]

Steve wrote:
 [snip]

 Just wait. October will be even more fun as people try to upgrade from  
 vista to 7.  I've already told a few it's going to cost them more than the  
 usual couple of pints to sort the mess out.

From what I've heard, upgrading from Vista to 7 RC is pretty straight
forward ...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

[William Anderson]

John Matthews wrote:
 Hi, thank you for your message. So as I understand it then, if I have a 
 folder on the desktop called title, that is called a directory then yes? 
 I wanted to copy that folder to the home directory.

Hi John,

directories = folders, it's just different nomenclatures.  Many of us
grew up with Linux (and various other UNIX systems) at the command line,
so calling a folder a directory is just habit.  Assume they're the same
thing, because the are :)

 So what is the difference between scp and cp ~r

Secure CoPy (scp) is used to copy data to and from remote systems over
the SSH protocol.  CoPy (cp) is used to copy data around on a local system.

 I really am not getting it, its very confusing. This page is showing two 
 different ways of copying. I am more confused now.

They are two different ways of copying, but they're different tools to
achieve different things.

 I need to find a night school, so I can get somebody to show me, this is 
 just not working.

Someone earlier suggested finding a local Linux User Group and attending
one of their meetings - see www.lug.org.uk to find your nearest.  LUGs
are usually full of bright, patient and helpful people, as you're
finding here I hope!  I'm sure at least one person will have a laptop
and will be able to give you a quick few minutes demonstrating various
shell concepts and commands.

 I have never felt so frustrated in all my life as I have since trying to 
 learn Linux. I used to be an Intensive Care nurse, and I never found it 
 as hard as this. It was intense, but not as hard to work out what to do.

Keep at it.  Try to remember there is a wealth of information now to
help you, via manual (or man) pages, Google, LUGs, HOWTO files, etc.  I
know you stated at one point that you preferred to be shown things
rather than have to read about them, but at some point it's best to just
... well, read stuff!  The man pages are usually good at going in depth
as to a command's function, while invariably typing the command name
followed by --help will bring up a quick list of the command's function
and optional parameters for usage, e.g. cp --help

As I and others will say, we were all beginners once, just at different
times :)  I was a Linux beginner way back in 1994, and even today I'm
still learning stuff.

Please continue to ask questions, but please also take a stab at reading
the documentation for the commands you want to play with, or seek out
some FAQs and HOWTOs :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Daily quiz suggestion

[William Anderson]

David Jones wrote:
 Is anybody interested in getting a rolling quiz set up using funtrivia.com?

if you hadn't posted here before, I'd have said this was spam ;)

what topics would you suggest having in the quiz?  There should be a
bonus round called Stallman's Beard.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

[William Anderson]

John Matthews wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I am so sorry to ask this, but I was wondering if somebody would be 
 willing to give me some help with ssh and commands for running a website 
 via a terminal.

Echoing others, knowing more about what you mean by running a website
would be useful in helping you :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Stolen Earth

[William Anderson]

David King wrote:
 I did not read the whole of the page at
 http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/index.php/Log_host
 
 but it does seem to say that there are Tardises out there that run on Linux.

Oh tardis, how i miss thee ... I had a tardis.ed.ac.uk account way back
in the day, until they cracked down on usage, and only permitted
ed.ac.uk students, staff and alumni to have accounts (I went to gla.ac.uk).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connecting to a network

[William Anderson]

Paul Roach wrote:
 To be honest, the quickest way to access networked data between linux
 boxes is to ensure ssh is enabled, and to open nautilus - in the
 [snip]

but at least with smb/cifs, you're not encrypting/decrypting your
traffic as you would with ssh/sftp, so if you're confident your
underlying network is secure, you get increased throughput.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?

[William Anderson]

Rob Beard wrote:
 Sean Miller wrote:
 I concur... Openoffice is bloatware of the highest order.

 If I could be bothered to get an older version of Office working on
 wine I would - but I don't use office suites enough to do so.

 It's a shame, really, that Sun decided to go down the bloated route,
 because the early versions of Openoffice were really quite pleasant to
 use; I dread to click on a .doc attachment in an e-mail because I
 know the machine will whirr and click for ages before I actually get
 to see it.

 Sean
  
 I'd have to disagree on this one.  I've just opened a spreadsheet (one 
 of my invoices) in OpenOffice.  I'm running my notebook in low power 
 mode (1GHz) to save battery and it took 5 seconds from a cold start.  
 I'd hardly say that is ages.  There are tweaks that you can do to 
 OpenOffice to speed it up such as altering the memory usage [1].

You really shouldn't have to tweak a productivity app in such a way to
make it usable, IMHO.  Granted it took 12 seconds for Word to open up on
my Mac when I tried it there, but at least I know I'll enjoy using it :)

 Now compare that to Office 2007 on one of my clients notebooks running 
 Vista, it takes a good 30 or so seconds to start up.
 
 Not to mention, when did this become an OpenOffice bashing Mac loving 
 mailing list?

Did it?  My main computer is a MacBook Pro, my media server is a Mac
mini, so I usually speak to my own personal experiences.  However, all
my servers[1] run Ubuntu Server LTS, and in the past I've run a gamut of
desktop OSes including all versions of Windows (bar Me) and most recent
versions of Ubuntu.  In all cases, I've rarely enjoyed using OOo, and I
shared Sean's dread when opening documents that wanted to use OOo due to
the grindage and carnage that would ensue.

Note that I'm not saying everyone should use MS Office over OOo, just
that I have a personal preference, and I think that everyone should try
and use the best tool for the job within the bounds of their preferences.

 I have got a Mac myself (albeit older iMac G3) and I have used Macs for 
 many years (going back to the old 68k Macs on System 6) but I find 
 sometimes doing things on a Mac can be just as annoying as doing stuff 
 on Windows (or in some cases as doing things on Linux).  I guess really 

Odd, I rarely find using my Macs annoying.  I've spent more years
cursing at Windows than I ever have at OS X or [insert Linux distro here].

 it's what you're used to.  For instance I'm used to a lot of keyboard 
 shortcuts and generally the shortcuts are the same on Windows and Ubuntu 
 (for most applications), now going to a Mac I find that rather than 
 using CTRL I have to use the Option key.  Not a big thing really but I 
 do find it annoying sometimes.  I dare say it can be annoying for a Mac 
 user to go to a Windows or Linux box and find that some things aren't 
 Mac like.

Indeed.

 With regards too William's comment about OpenOffice not being a native 
 app.  As far as I'm aware OpenOffice 3.1 IS a native app for OS X on 
 Intel CPUs, and there is also NeoOffice (which IIRC is a native build of 
 OpenOffice on both OS X Intel and OS X PPC).

Sorry, my natively comment was referring to the UI, which has always
seemed to me to be more interested in appearing the same across all
platforms (which never works) than appearing attractive and highly
usable on each platform so that it plays to each's strengths.  Just a
pet hate.

 With regards to MS Office 2008 being prettier than OpenOffice, remember 
 this, the cheapest version of Office 2008 is the Home  Student version 

Yup, that's the version I have.

 which is about £70 (doing a quick google check), and how much is 

Yeah, I got the 3-user edition from amazon for a shade under 80 quid.
And for me, that was money well spent.  YMMV, naturally.

 OpenOffice? - FREE!

Free to obtain, certainly, but the cost of someone's time to figure out
the differences or possible shortcomings of OOo against MS Office could
be expensive.

 There is nothing stopping anyone picking up the code for OpenOffice and 
 contributing to make it look better and work better and it's not as if 

This is another attitude within the FLOSS community that irks me :)  Not
everyone is a coder!

 you get it shoved down your throat like you do with Office 2007 on a new 
 machine (I've lost count of the amount of Windows PCs I've seen with 
 Office 2007 trial preinstalled which can only be used about 20 times 
 before it disables itself and turns into a bloated Office viewer).

Shoved down your throat, right.  See, this is what I'm talking about.
 Not your comment, but the practice of shoving things down people's
throats when they didn't ask for them, such as recommending OOo when the
OP wanted help with MS Office.

Apologies to Mike if his comments were well-intentioned, which I have no
doubt they were, but comments like why aren't you using $FOO when the
question was can someone help me with $BAR just drive me nuts sometimes.

 

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?

[William Anderson]

Rob Beard wrote:
 [snip]
 
 I just got the general impression that you were saying that Macs were 
 the the be all and end all, guess I read it wrong.  You're lucky not to 
 have used Me, I had the annoying task of supporting it once, wasn't fun 
 at all :-(

Apologies if that's the way I come across.  I'm a big proponent of
Ubuntu on both the server and desktop (an increasingly meaningless
term in the face of fast rising laptop dominance and increasing numbers
of netbooks appearing), but I caught the Mac bug again big style a
couple of years ago and have found it hard to shake.

You'll note I'm using Thunderbird to send mail (talking to a
postfix/dovecot backend here at home), and I use Firefox and lots of
other FLOSS apps on my Mac too ... macports is an especially useful
piece of software since I don't have good old dpkg/apt on OS X :)

 [snip] 
 2008 is about a gig here.  I agree that for something you'd use to
 create a spreadsheet or type up a letter, that's insane.  For reference,
 iWork '09 is 650 meg.
  
 Makes me wonder exactly what Microsoft have put in there.  Maybe I'm 
 just a bit cynical, I remember when Word came on a couple of floppies 
 and did just as good a job.

Probably magic UI stuff (newer versions of office on windows have that
awesome ribbon thing, for example), templates galore, common library
components, et cetera, et cetera ...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Stolen Earth

[William Anderson]

David King wrote:
 Interesting podcast, entertaining as usual.
 
 However, I did not hear any references to the Stolen Earth, which title 
 I assume you took from a recent Doctor Who episode. But no mention of 
 the Doctor or the Daleks...
 
 I wonder what a Dalek running on Ubuntu would be like?

APT GET UPDATE!  APT GET UPDATE!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

[William Anderson]

Mike Paglia wrote:
 I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and its
 free!

This attitude irritates me somewhat.  I prefer MS Office (I currently
use Office 2008 on my mac) to OpenOffice.org, as the former works well
natively, doesn't consume insane amounts of memory, and isn't fugly :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server

[William Anderson]

William Anderson wrote:
 Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 On 07/07/09 01:24, Sean Miller wrote:
 Not on my Ubuntu machine, my default user is still using bash.
 I would be surprised if the default shell is bash.

 /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash as Dave explained.

 If you look at a user's default shell in /etc/passwd you will see most 
 (if not all) point to bin/sh. (Although interestingly I note that root 
 points to bin/bash).
 
 nope, /bin/sh may have been changed to point to dash instead of bash,
 but new users are created with their shell set to bash.  Every new
 account I've set up on every ubuntu box i've set up lately gets bash as
 their shell.

I forgot to mention, there's also a difference between role accounts
being set to sh and user accounts being set to bash.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] Flame Wars mailing list

[William Anderson]

Rob Beard wrote:
 Harry Rickards wrote:
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 Alan Pope wrote:
   
 Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
 
 (If there was some joke intended, I've missed it).
   
 Alan was referring to the Monty Python Arguement Sketch: 
 http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/jokes/monty-python-arguement.html
 
 Great sketch.

Tis.  Shameless self-promotion alert:

http://neuro.me.uk/2009/03/22/the-four-ubuntu-yorkshiremen/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked..... (now showing online?)

[William Anderson]

Matt Jones wrote:
 [snip]
 
 Looks like you just got away with it. Making a full site backup
 probably isn't a bad idea!
 Glad you got it sorted,

And get phpbb and wordpress updated immediately, I suspect these were
the attack vectors.  I'm sure, if you don't feel confident about doing
that yourself, there will be people on this list willing to help out pro
bono.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....

[William Anderson]

Alan Pope wrote:
 [snip]
 
 A highly damaging hack at UK-based web hosting company VAserv has
 taken a tragic turn for the worse after it was revealed that the boss
 of the Indian firm whose software was at the centre the attack, has
 hanged himself. 

General consensus is that he had lost one or several major contracts his
consultancy firm held, and they were the major contributory factor to
his taking his life.  The VAserv debacle I think was just one of many
straws that broke the camel's back.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....

[William Anderson]

Lucy wrote:
 [snip]
 Like I said in an earlier post, many other sites on the same server
 were also compromised. It's likely that he'll never find out which one
 was responsible.

Other sites being compromised doesn't necessarily mean they were
responsible for the damage to John's site, just indicative of an attack
directly on the server or a mass attack on similarly vulnerable sites on
the same server.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....

[William Anderson]

John wrote:
 [snip]
 Hi, what backup options are there that dont require you to download the 
 full site each time. It is some of my fault for relying on the host, I 
 should never have done that. I need to learn more.

check out the rsync, sitecopy, and mirror packages

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox, ubuntu and tesco shopping online

[William Anderson]

Harry Rickards wrote:
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 On 06/21/09 12:56, Lucy wrote:
 ...
 You could try the User Agent Switcher Firefox plugin
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59), to 'pretend' that
 it's running on Windows. Some websites try to detect what browser/OS
 you're running and display the page differently. It's the main cause I
 can think of if you're running the same browser on two different OSs.

 Or just change general.useragent.extra.firefox in about:config.

User Agent Switcher lets you change browser identity at the flick of a
drop down switch, having to wire into about:config and remember what
you're supposed to type in each time would tire rather quickly, methinks :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu tribe

[William Anderson]

You'll be lucky to find anything to download other than the  
trailer ... it was an entry into a viral marketing competition, and no  
short film was ever made.

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 Hi

 there seems to be a movie called ubuntu tribe,  a trailer is here
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZGZlXpHB2g

 the url for themovie is meant to be www.ubuntutribe.com this fails as
 its a phamacy site,  any know what the proper url is to download the
 movie.  yes I have tried google and it comes up with lots of links  
 which
 is not helpful

 thanks

 paul


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scheduling a reboot of Ubuntu?

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Alex Birchall wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to schedule a reboot of my Ubuntu server.
 
 When I type sudo crontab -l at the prompt, the following is displayed:
 
 #m h dom mon dow  command
 40 12 * * 0-7 eprints reboot
 
 As I understand it, this should mean that at 40 minutes past 12 each day
 the user eprints will issue the command reboot.

No, it means Sunday through Sunday (0 and 7 both mean Sunday for day of
week), at 20 to 1 in the afternoon (crontab uses the 24 hour clock), the
command 'eprints reboot' will be attempted.  If you don't have a command
'eprints', it will fail.  Check root's mailbox for more details of the
error output, and check man 5 crontab for more details of how the
crontab file works.

 The problem is, nothing appears to be happening.

See above :)

 Do I need to specify the user?

in a user's crontab?  no.  user specification for jobs goes into
/etc/crontab, which is maybe what's confusing you.  Again, see man 5
crontab for more.

 Should the entries be separated by spaces, or tabs?

doesn't matter.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7

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Sean Miller wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:19 PM, doug liveseybiot...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, no, because Ubuntu comes bundled with FF.
 
 Even if it didn't.
 
 There are many in the repos.

This is what Windows needs, an easy to use system to install and update
apps loaded on a machine.  If there were an app included a la Add/Remove
Stuff in Ubuntu, AppFresh for the Mac, or even the old Google Pack, it
would take a lot of pain out of things.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is there an mp3 tag editor in the repositories?

[William Anderson]

Michael G Fletcher wrote:
 [id3 tagging app snippage]
 
 you can try Picard, it's in the repositories and details can be
 found here [1].

Musicbrainz Picard is the mutt's nuts, utterly fantastic.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless Networking question: Ps3 or Xbox 360

[William Anderson]

Rob Beard wrote:
 javadayaz wrote:
 I mean primarily to view stuff/media thats stored on the ubuntu pc! 
 sorry should have made that a bit clearer
 Yeah no problem.
 
 Well I don't have either console (I have an original XBOX, PS2 and 
 Wii).  I know the PS3 has Linux support and I'm pretty certain there is 
 a version of Ubuntu available (if I'm right it's the PowerPC version 
 that runs on the PS3) so you could run your media that way with 
 something like MythTV.  I'm not sure if the default operating system on 

that's not really an easy way to do things :)

 the PS3 (XMB is it?) can connect to Samba shares but I believe it does 
 support uPNP which I understand there are servers available for this on 
 Ubuntu, I've also read it supports Divx video files.

No, neither the PS3 or Xbox 360 can connect to smb shares.

 With regards to the XBOX 360, I really don't know.  I know it can 
 connect to a Windows machine which is running Windows Media Centre and 
 play stuff from that, and I would assume it can play WMA/WMV files 
 (being Microsoft format files) but as far as connecting to a Samba share 
 or uPNP server I just don't know.  Doing a quick Google search pointed 
 to a post about someone running Windows XP Media Centre edition in 
 something like VirtualBox.

That's overkill, and expensive.  Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 can connect
to any OS's or device's uPnP server to grab media from, e.g. XBMC/Plex,
Connect360, TVersity, FUPPES, ushare, MediaTomb, etc.  If your uPnP
server can transcode unsupported media, all the better (e.g. the 360
won't be able to play things like mkv without some assistance), but both
can do the basics.  For the fastest working system, but least out the
box features, you can at least apt-get install ushare :)

So to answer the OP's question, both are pretty amenable to streaming
media from an Ubuntu box, dependent on your choice of uPnP source.  The
PS3 has WiFi built in, you'll need to purchase an Xbox 360 Wireless
Adapter (retail cost £59.99), e.g. http://tinyurl.com/ldhexr

I'd say your other requirements will come into play as to which one you
should buy, e.g. cost, joypad comfortability, onboard storage space,
available games, types of games[1], bluray capability, etc.  Both
consoles have their strengths and weaknesses (tho I prefer the 360 at
the moment), so choose wisely :)

-n

[1] i.e. are you a Halo (360) fan?  Gran Turismo (PS3)?  certain games
are cross platform, and will be available on both 360 and ps3, but
some are platform exclusive (meaning those specific titles will
never be available on the other platform), or are timed exclusives
(meaning those titles will be available on one platform before
the other), or have feature exclusives (meaning one platform will
have specific features in the title vs. the others, e.g. Grand
Theft Auto IV's downloadable content only being available on 360,
not PS3)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations

[William Anderson]

John Levin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting.
 
 First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to 
 more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to 
 customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a 
 geek-friendly adsl service.

Be - http://www.bethere.co.uk/
Web Tapestry - http://www.webtapestry.net/

 Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting
 http://www.evohosting.co.uk/
 and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to 
 be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd 
 like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions?

Bitfolk - http://www.bitfolk.com/
Bytemark - http://www.bytemark.co.uk/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] E-mail body as attachment

[William Anderson]

Rob Beard wrote:
 Steve Archer wrote:
 Why is it that when some people send an e-mail to the list I receive the 
 e-mail with no body, but it is instead an attachment?

 It's driving me nuts...

 Cheers, Steve
   
 Strange, what e-mail client (or provider if it's webmail) are you using?

Matt is using Evolution to send, Steve is using Windows Live Mail to
receive.

 I find that by default Thunderbird will forward messages as an 
 attachment rather than inline but I've not experienced it when reading 
 messages on the list.

It's not Thunderbird, or forwarding messages to a list ... it looks like
Evolution is sending Matt's gpg-signed messages with the plain body text
and gpg signature in separate mime enclosures.  Mailman then encloses
*that* in its own mime enclosure, and adds the list footer in a separate
attachment.  So Matt's original two attachments (the body text, the gnu
signature) become attachments within an attachment!

There's something to be said for just plain text :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine

[William Anderson]

Michael Douglas wrote:
 [snip]
 
 I understand why magazine's that come with DVD's of movies, or things 
 like SLES on them, but why spend money printing a dual-sided DVD, when 
 you could just use two single sided ones and bring the price down by a 
 couple quid so more people buy it?

Because it's cheaper for them to put one DVD on the front than it is for
two DVDs on the front, and the price difference between DVD-5 (single
sided / single layer), DVD-9 (SS / dual layer), DVD-10 (double sided /
SL), and DVD-18 (DS/DL) are minimal, possibly negligible, when doing
bulk duplication runs.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine

[William Anderson]

Sean Miller wrote:
 Just to point out that the £25 subscription is only for 4 issues, so
 it's still over £6/copy which seems steep to me.
 
 All Linux magazines seem incredibly pricey - but this one seems to
 take the pricyness to a new level.

To be fair, it's quarterly, so at least you're not spending that amount
a month.  How fat did it seem in page count?  For a quarterly that
only has Jaunty on its cover disc, I'd expect a lot of pages (and ergo
content) for 8 quid.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] E-mail body as attachment

[William Anderson]

Matthew Daubney wrote:
 [evolution/mailman attachment snippage]
 
 Hmm, thats interesting. I can't see a way around that inside Evolution,
 as far as I can see Evolution is set to just use Plain Text. Anyone know
 a way around it?

I wasn't criticising evolution to be fair, just more mailman for not
intelligently[1] injecting its footer into an attachment-laden message,
and windows live mail for being ... well, poo :)

 Maybe it's time to go back to Mutt!

Bit harsh :)

-n

[1] why mailman can't simply parse the existing mime enclosure
boundaries and tack its footer on at the end with the same boundary
instead of encapsulating the whole smash in its own mime enclosures
(which actually define the boundaries from the original message), I
don't know.  I'm sure there's some reason for it, no doubt someone will
figure it out :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

[William Anderson]

Thomas Ibbotson wrote:
 [snip]
 
 There is also no need for bottom posting if you use thunderbird with 
 thread view, as everyone could simply not include the previous messages 
 assuming everybody had all the messages in the thread, but it's much 
 nicer to have all the relevant information for the post in it, so you 
 don't have to go through each message in turn to get the relevant 
 information.

A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion.
Q. Why is top posting bad?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to set up a dial up connection

[William Anderson]

Sean Miller wrote:
 On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Farran Lee fazzy.bab...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 sorry, an extra bit I forgot to mention - it is a BT DSL modem, using
 broadband, but the computer DIALS UP to the connection.
 
 It doesn't actually.
 
 It's just that Windows displays it as a Dial Up Networking Connection.
 
 Doesn't dial up at all -- it's ADSL.

It's just semantics of labelling really.  In Windows, you'd create a DUN
connection where you have to manually sign in using a connected physical
modem or virtual device (e.g. VPN).  The only real difference between
dialup and broadband (the speed aside) is that with the type of ADSL
most common in the UK, the line is always up (ATM session created)
when the modem is connected and on, both still have to auth using PPP to
get an IP.

I'd agree with Matt Jones, buy a wireless ADSL2+ router/switch and plug
the machines in using Ethernet cables or WiFi as appropriate - a decent
Netgear or Zyxel can be gotten at reasonable prices from scan.co.uk,
ebuyer.com, broadbandbuyer.co.uk et al.  Makes it easier to use multiple
machines/devices (desktops, laptops, wifi-enabled phones, etc), and an
ADSL2+ router means you can still use it with ADSL1 providers like BT,
and migrate to ADSL2+ providers who use the BT Wholesale/BT 21CN
platform without having to find new hardware.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell XPS M1530 fresh install WiFi probs

[William Anderson]

Kris Douglas wrote:
 Hello everyone, I've been having some problems with the wireless on my
 M1530, it seems, every [insert very similar number of minutes] my
 wireless card just disconnects, it says it is connected to a network,
 but the machine doesn't actually have internet access...

What do you have installed, and which WiFi card does it have?  I
installed Ubuntu Jaunty on my M1530 (which has a Broadcom WiFi NIC)
without issues, and upgrade to Intrepid with zero hassle.

Incidentally, if anyone in the Central Belt of Scotland is interested in
buying said M1530[1], ping me off list.  I hardly use it since getting a
MacBook Pro (sorry!) :)

-n

[1] 2.0GHz Core2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, 15 TruBrite screen, 2mp
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell XPS M1530 fresh install WiFi probs

[William Anderson]

William Anderson wrote:
 Kris Douglas wrote:
 Hello everyone, I've been having some problems with the wireless on my
 M1530, it seems, every [insert very similar number of minutes] my
 wireless card just disconnects, it says it is connected to a network,
 but the machine doesn't actually have internet access...
 
 What do you have installed, and which WiFi card does it have?  I
 installed Ubuntu Jaunty on my M1530 (which has a Broadcom WiFi NIC)

Oops, got that ass backwards: I have the Intel 3945ABG WiFi NIC.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] to upgrade or not (Macbook 3,1 on Ibex)

[William Anderson]

Chris Weaver wrote:
 I have a Macbook 3.1 and I'm nearly about to press the upgrade button
 (I'm upgrading a test PC to see how it affects sound and Samba in
 particular). I have it dual booting with leopard so I'm perhaps in a
 better position if it goes wrong. I'll report back how it goes.

I'm curious, what's a Macbook 3.1?  I haven't heard a Macbook referred
to like that before.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beards and sandals

[William Anderson]

David King wrote:
 I know what you mean about the beard and sandals. Just look at a picture 
 of Richard Stallman -- would you trust a man who looks like that to 
 create your OS?

I don't mind his look so much, I just get The Fear when he opens his
mouth.  IME he's either going to be rude, rip into somebody/something,
or he's going to sing THAT SONG.  *shudder*

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

[William Anderson]

Sean Miller wrote:
 [snip]
 
 Having grown up in a Unix/VT220 environment to find that there is no
 ctrl key and everything is done differently is, to say the least,
 rather alien.  I mean, ctrl-c to cancel... been there since time and
 memorium... how come Steve Jobs gets to redefine it?

Hang on, what do you mean, no Ctrl key?  I'm looking at the MacBook Pro
keyboard I'm typing on right now, and there it is, a Ctrl key nestling
between Fn and Option/Alt.  This and the there's no right mouse
button[1] fallacy really irritate me sometimes.

-n

[1] If using a Mighty Mouse, oh look, it has a right-button.  If using
a trackpad, either Ctrl+click or enable right-click using two
fingers in the system preferences.  Or, you know, just plug in any
USB mouse.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] killed box through /var :P

[William Anderson]

Sorry, catching up with old mail :)

Matthew Wild wrote:
 [snip]
 
 4 would it be best to generate an install list from synaptic so I know what
 I've got, and do a clean install with a larger partition? (and how would I
 do this through aptitude command line - I have no gui at all now).
 
 dpkg -l  packages.txt
 
 However if dpkg is in a bad state, this may not work.

I'd suggest an easier path would be to do:

dpkg --get-selections  /tmp/packages.txt

Then take a copy of /tmp/packages.txt (and probably an archive of /etc
as well to make a backup of key system settings), do whatever re-install
steps you'd require, put packages.txt back in /tmp/ and then do this
after an apt-get update  apt-get upgrade:

dpkg --set-selections  /tmp/packages.txt
apt-get -u dselect-upgrade

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

[William Anderson]

Sean Miller wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, William Anderson ne...@well.com wrote:
 Hang on, what do you mean, no Ctrl key?  I'm looking at the MacBook Pro
 keyboard I'm typing on right now, and there it is, a Ctrl key nestling
 between Fn and Option/Alt.  This and the there's no right mouse
 button[1] fallacy really irritate me sometimes.
 
 Okay, so there's a Ctrl key.  But it doesn't do what the control key
 would normally do, that appears to be the job of the Apple key.
 
 So what precisely does the Ctrl key do on a Mac?

Where it counts, it does exactly what you'd think a Ctrl key does.  If I
fire up a shell, Ctrl+C, +Z, +S, etc does what you think it would.  You
quickly get used to the difference between Ctrl and Cmd, in fact it's
quite handy to be able to use Cmd+C in a shell to copy stuff without
accidentally killing the process you're running.  Honestly, the more I
hear about all these supposed issues with different keys etc, the more
it sounds like FUD (not accusing you of anything, just commenting on the
general hassles people usually proclaim of Macs).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] killed box through /var :P

[William Anderson]

Neil Greenwood wrote:
 [snip]
 
 Have a look at http://blog.hanno-stock.de/archives/50 for a few extra
 steps that will mark libraries and dependencies as automatically
 installed (then they get removed when you choose to remove the package
 you originally installed, instead of becoming cruft).

But Ubuntu et al automatically pick up on orphaned packages and offer
apt-get autoremove to get rid of them, or did I miss a memo somewhere?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] news services was: BBC news site

[William Anderson]

Tom Bamford wrote:
 [snip]
 
 I guess everyone has their viewing preference; the same 15 minutes of 
 lukewarm headlines over and over again is not for me, nor any 
 US-b[i]ased station.

Rolling news channels aren't designed to be watched for extended periods 
of time, unless something big or interesting is happening. 
Nonetheless, the bottom 30 minutes of every hour on News 24 are usually 
used for programming, while the top 30 minutes are for headlines and 
news coverage.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?

[William Anderson]

Jai Harrison wrote:
 Hey Guys,
 
 I figured this would be an interesting topic for people to discuss.
 We're all from the UK so it should work nicely. What is the best
 Internet Service Provider in your opinion and why? Please state
 whether it is ADSL or cable.

I use two ADSL connections at home:

- 8Mb Broadband Max from Web Tapestry [1], gives me solid downstream
  and a /27 block of IPs.  I use this mainly for work, hosting (e-mail
  and personal web stuff) and for VPN connections.
- 16Mb Max from Sky [2], gives me 16 meg downstream for bulk downloads,
  i.e. squid traffic, downloads, ISOs, etc.

Both are pretty solid, no real problems.  The Sky-supplied Netgear is
friendly enough (cheat code admin/sky to get into the web interface),
and I use a solid-as-brick-wall Zyxel P660-HW on my 8Mb line.  I use
SmoothWall on both lines for NATting my LAN: SmoothWall Express 3.0 on
the 16Mb line, and SmoothWall Advanced Firewall 4.0 on the 8Mb line.

-n

[1] http://www.webtapestry.net/ - mention my name or username (neuro)
to support when signing up, and I get a referral bonus.  You can
do the same for others once you've signed up too :)
[2] http://www.sky.com/broadband/ - tenner a month for 16 meg ain't too
bad on top of a regular sky tv subscription, and for me that speed
is regularly attainable!  good stuff!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Podcast Test Recording 1

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Paul RJ Mellors wrote:
 It’s been an aim of mine to have a go at creating a UK based Ubuntu 
 Centric pod cast, currently it’s only in planning stage, see wiki, 
 however i’ve now had a go at recording something, as a test to see what 
 i actually sound like, it’s unrehearsed, unplanned, unscripted, totally 
 made up on the fly crap :) but here it is any way. Hopefully as i’m the 
 first, more decent recording artists :) will have a go at doing there 
 own demo so we can see who’s voice would be good. Please don’t laugh to 
 hard i’m not a professional. I’ll also add it to the wiki in a new 
 section so others can link to their own test. While i was recording it 
 though it did come to mind that it’s very difficult unless scripted to 
 record on your own, so if any one wants to get together at some point [i 
 live in Nottingham] let me know, we can bounce a few ideas and possibly 
 record something.

it's definitely very difficult to record alone without a script, or at 
least a very clear agenda of topics.  Without those and without anyone 
else to keep you in check, it's very easy to drift rapidly off-topic.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital TV

[William Anderson]

norman wrote:
  snip 
 
 What do you mean by the data required?
 
 I have only had a quick look at the setup procedure so far but there
 seem to be several places where numbers are required.

Are you talking about tzap?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Off the fence and ready to join in!

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Dave wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I've been reading this list for the past few months and enjoy the good 
 quality of discussion, so I've decided to get off the fence and hope to 
 become more involved in Ubuntu's great community.
 
 I'm a Multimedia Development student from Scotland and have been using 
 Ubuntu for the past few years.

Cool, where are you in Scotland?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Vista Coverage

[William Anderson]

Benjamin Webb wrote:
 I was having a look at how the BBC was covering the launch of Vista and
 found this.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6310599.stm
 
 I was reasured that it did mention Linux, albeit only briefly and has a
 quote from a satisfied Linux user. Is that anyone here btw?

Not a single mention of Linux from Maggie Philbin, who for some
unfathomable reason was BBC Breakfast's expert talking about the
release of Vista on yesterday morning's programme.  Awful.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Call for meeting agenda items

[William Anderson]

Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi Ratfans!
 
 We're a good week away from our next meeting and the agenda page [0] is 
 somewhat blank.

:(  Looks like I won't make it; we record ep 11 of hashlugradio on the
same night :P

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[ubuntu-uk] del.icio.us (was: Re: Ubuntu Edgy Disks)

[William Anderson]

Dean Sas wrote:
 [snip]
 
 You can also get a extension which syncs your bookmarks and tags to 
 http://del.icio.us so you can access them anywhere. Maybe 
 firefox/whatever has a similar extension

del.icio.us is fantastic, but I found the Firefox extension too restrictive.
 It completely replaces the FF bookmark system (tho I suppose suppresses is
a better word, since all your old bookmarks are still there, and disabling
the extension returns the FF system to your browser).  I couldn't create
folders in my Bookmarks Toolbar, something I rely on to save space, and
using tags was a bit too unwieldy, especially after it had imported my 10
years worth of bookmarks and automagically tagged them :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Edgy Disks

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Jono Bacon wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 15:44 +, Paul Sladen wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Paul,

 The Nottingham Lug is having a LAN party / install fest in november  
 Does anyone know a quick way of getting a hundred or so Edgy disks  
 without using SHIP-IT or copying them myself?
 Ship IT is basically going to concentrate on shipping 6.06 LTS CDs;  I
 believe Michael Simms (CC'ed) has a CD duplicator up that way!
 
 Maybe we should have a wiki page with a list of duplication services?

So started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/DiscDuplication

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: UK Free Software Network broadband

[William Anderson]

Sean Hammond wrote:
 Anyone here getting broadband from the UK Free software network?
 
 http://www.ukfsn.org/
 
 They are (very slightly) cheaper than the Phone Coop or Zen (6 month
 period plus connection fee). Their cheapest broadband package gives
 you a 3GB peak time cap, and 30GB off peak cap. Off peak is 10pm to
 8am weekdays, and 10pm Friday to 8am Monday. Everyone else seems to
 just say '2GB per month cap.' (although with Zen you can opt for a
 slower 256K connection and unlimited bandwidth), The idea is that any
 profits they make go to supporting free software. Looks like it's just
 run by one guy.
 
 Was just wondering if the service is trustworthy or not.

Google for Jason Clifford, and you can make up your own mind if it's (and
by extension he) are trustworthy enough.  I've tangled with Jason in the
past, but not to the extent that would make me think he's committed to
providing anything other than a quality service to his customers.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Getting the group going

[William Anderson]

Steve Smith wrote:
 On 08/09/06, Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve Smith wrote:
 Do you have ftp access to ubuntu-uk.org so that we can install xplanet
 (http://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/xplanet) on there?

xplanet has a fair list of dependencies iirc; should be interesting :)

 I have ssh access to the server and actually installed a planet
 
 Cool!
 
 Though xplanet is for the map, not a blog planet (I have got the right
 thing, yeh?)

Yeah, xplanet generates images of the planet, planetplanet generates an
aggregated blog from provided feeds, but i like the idea of the latter.
Another planet never hurt anyone :)  If we're adding feeds, this would be
best for my entry: http://neuro.me.uk/category/community/ubuntu/feed/

Putting irc nicks (or similar) in brackets after the name would help
identifying folk faster, i.e. Jeff Waugh [jdub] :)

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