Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 17:36, paul sutton wrote: On 28/04/12 17:31, Bill Baker wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 15:55 +0100, alan c wrote: On 28/04/12 14:14, kpb wrote: On 28/04/12 11:59, Barry Drake wrote: Someone just upgraded from 10.04 and after answering a couple of questions, I pointed him to the poster. He found it very helpful. Hello Barry and all That is exactly what/who the poster is for, I'm glad it was useful. The Ubuntu Desktop Guide really is good documentation once you get the names of things and the basic actions sorted out. I think it has been noticed that Ubuntu 12.04 does not make it at all easy to find a useful Help facility, not sure if a bug has been raised at all, I hope so. One guinea pig I saw use it here immediately searched around for a help list. Unfortunately even I did not know where that was ... :-( My try was F1 but this is context sensitive. -- alan cocks Reading this - and purely as a guess I hit the** key which, of course, opened the main lens. I typed "help". There it was. Whilst that might be an obvious route to me - it most definite;y would not be to a new Unity user. ** I would hit the key - wouldn't I. I amEngineer. ;D As the super key is the windows key on windows, people may not realise that the windows key works in Linux and is called the super key. if you press the windows key on windows the start menu pops up straight away, with linux the super key is pressed there is a delay, the fact there is a delay (good thing and i guess reasons for this ) may make people think it does't do anything. Bit ironic, but when I used Windows for years and too long, I never used the Windows key! I now see the error of my ways and will be using it a lot! :-) -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 17:45, Bill Baker wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 17:23 +0100, Barry Drake wrote: On 28/04/12 15:55, alan c wrote: Errm Alan . we have an HUD. Try simply typing help (or even he) into the lens . Barry - now try pointing that out to a new user. ;) Yes, I thought you might have been having a joke Barry! -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 18:24, Tony Pursell wrote: HUD doesn't seem to find Help for me. The Dash finds it, of course. And there is also the Help menu at the top of the screen when there is nothing on the desktop. Do you know, I had thought up to now that the Dash searchbar and the HUD did the same thing. I'll watch out for that. Thanks. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28 April 2012 17:45, Bill Baker wrote: > On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 17:23 +0100, Barry Drake wrote: > > On 28/04/12 15:55, alan c wrote: > > Errm Alan . we have an HUD. Try simply typing help (or even > > he) into the lens . > > > Barry - now try pointing that out to a new user. ;) > > -- > Regards, > Bill B. [SuperEngineer] > HUD doesn't seem to find Help for me. The Dash finds it, of course. And there is also the Help menu at the top of the screen when there is nothing on the desktop. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 17:45, Bill Baker wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 17:23 +0100, Barry Drake wrote: Errm Alan . we have an HUD. Try simply typing help (or even he) into the lens . Barry - now try pointing that out to a new user. ;) Oh I agree And I do think the Help app ought to be in the launcher on a new installation. The first thing 'Help' tells you is how to work the HUD and the Lens. But that isn't a lot of use if you can't find the thing in the first place. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 17:23 +0100, Barry Drake wrote: > On 28/04/12 15:55, alan c wrote: > Errm Alan . we have an HUD. Try simply typing help (or even > he) into the lens . > Barry - now try pointing that out to a new user. ;) -- Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 17:31, Bill Baker wrote: > On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 15:55 +0100, alan c wrote: >> On 28/04/12 14:14, kpb wrote: >>> On 28/04/12 11:59, Barry Drake wrote: Someone just upgraded from 10.04 and after answering a couple of questions, I pointed him to the poster. He found it very helpful. >>> Hello Barry and all >>> >>> That is exactly what/who the poster is for, I'm glad it was useful. >>> >>> The Ubuntu Desktop Guide really is good documentation once you get the >>> names of things and the basic actions sorted out. >> I think it has been noticed that Ubuntu 12.04 does not make it at all >> easy to find a useful Help facility, not sure if a bug has been raised >> at all, I hope so. One guinea pig I saw use it here immediately >> searched around for a help list. Unfortunately even I did not know >> where that was ... :-( >> >> My try was F1 but this is context sensitive. >> >> -- >> alan cocks >> > Reading this - and purely as a guess > > I hit the ** key which, of course, opened the main lens. > I typed "help". > There it was. > > Whilst that might be an obvious route to me - it most definite;y would > not be to a new Unity user. > > ** I would hit the key - wouldn't I. I am Engineer. ;D > As the super key is the windows key on windows, people may not realise that the windows key works in Linux and is called the super key. if you press the windows key on windows the start menu pops up straight away, with linux the super key is pressed there is a delay, the fact there is a delay (good thing and i guess reasons for this ) may make people think it does't do anything. Paul -- -- http://www.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 15:55 +0100, alan c wrote: > On 28/04/12 14:14, kpb wrote: > > On 28/04/12 11:59, Barry Drake wrote: > >> Someone just upgraded from 10.04 and after answering a couple of > >> questions, I pointed him to the poster. He found it very helpful. > > > > Hello Barry and all > > > > That is exactly what/who the poster is for, I'm glad it was useful. > > > > The Ubuntu Desktop Guide really is good documentation once you get the > > names of things and the basic actions sorted out. > > I think it has been noticed that Ubuntu 12.04 does not make it at all > easy to find a useful Help facility, not sure if a bug has been raised > at all, I hope so. One guinea pig I saw use it here immediately > searched around for a help list. Unfortunately even I did not know > where that was ... :-( > > My try was F1 but this is context sensitive. > > -- > alan cocks > Reading this - and purely as a guess I hit the ** key which, of course, opened the main lens. I typed "help". There it was. Whilst that might be an obvious route to me - it most definite;y would not be to a new Unity user. ** I would hit the key - wouldn't I. I am Engineer. ;D -- Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 15:55, alan c wrote: I think it has been noticed that Ubuntu 12.04 does not make it at all easy to find a useful Help facility, not sure if a bug has been raised at all, I hope so. One guinea pig I saw use it here immediately searched around for a help list. Unfortunately even I did not know where that was ... :-( Errm Alan . we have an HUD. Try simply typing help (or even he) into the lens . Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 15:55, alan c wrote: I think it has been noticed that Ubuntu 12.04 does not make it at all easy to find a useful Help facility, not sure if a bug has been raised at all, I hope so. One guinea pig I saw use it here immediately searched around for a help list. Unfortunately even I did not know where that was ... :-( My try was F1 but this is context sensitive. Hello Alan Yes, I was wondering why the Desktop Guide isn't in the Launcher on a default install. The corresponding Gnome Desktop Help application is in the Gnome Activity screen on a default install. There is a Launchpad bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/778289 and some discussion on the unity-design mailing list here https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08561.html Cheers -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 14:14, kpb wrote: On 28/04/12 11:59, Barry Drake wrote: Someone just upgraded from 10.04 and after answering a couple of questions, I pointed him to the poster. He found it very helpful. Hello Barry and all That is exactly what/who the poster is for, I'm glad it was useful. The Ubuntu Desktop Guide really is good documentation once you get the names of things and the basic actions sorted out. I think it has been noticed that Ubuntu 12.04 does not make it at all easy to find a useful Help facility, not sure if a bug has been raised at all, I hope so. One guinea pig I saw use it here immediately searched around for a help list. Unfortunately even I did not know where that was ... :-( My try was F1 but this is context sensitive. -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 11:59, Barry Drake wrote: Someone just upgraded from 10.04 and after answering a couple of questions, I pointed him to the poster. He found it very helpful. Hello Barry and all That is exactly what/who the poster is for, I'm glad it was useful. The Ubuntu Desktop Guide really is good documentation once you get the names of things and the basic actions sorted out. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 28/04/12 11:59, Barry Drake wrote: > On 25/04/12 22:13, alan c wrote: >> Hi Barry. I am dealing with 60 plus ages and they are all >> technophobes using Ubuntu without reading any instructions at all. >> Some are adults with learning difficulty. The thought of even -me- >> needing to look at such an information diagram is an unpleasant >> thought for me. > > I think it's a case of 'horses for courses'. I played around with an > iPod for a couple of weeks back in March. I was horrified by the lack > of instructions. My daughter picked it up and almost instantly had it > doing what she wanted by trial and error. My four-year old > granddaughter soon found her way around it well enough to play the > games my daughter loaded onto it for her age-group. It's teaching her > to read remarkably quickly and it's fun > > Someone just upgraded from 10.04 and after answering a couple of > questions, I pointed him to the poster. He found it very helpful. I > think older folk are more likely to need instructions; young folk are > used to intuiting their way around a smartphone or similar and getting > results by trial and error. And it's great when you can have someone > looking over your shoulder and giving helpful hints. That isn't > always possible, so I really would like to see that poster linked from > the Ubuntu site. > > Regards,Barry. > I agree, we need resources there to help people if they need that help, you may find you look at this once and think ah, thats what this is about, put the document to one side and never touch it again until perhaps someone asks, if this happens then it has proven useful. I don't think it implies ubuntu is difficult to use. in fact it draws attention to perhaps less known features that are not immediately obvious. Paul -- -- http://www.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 25/04/12 22:13, alan c wrote: Hi Barry. I am dealing with 60 plus ages and they are all technophobes using Ubuntu without reading any instructions at all. Some are adults with learning difficulty. The thought of even -me- needing to look at such an information diagram is an unpleasant thought for me. I think it's a case of 'horses for courses'. I played around with an iPod for a couple of weeks back in March. I was horrified by the lack of instructions. My daughter picked it up and almost instantly had it doing what she wanted by trial and error. My four-year old granddaughter soon found her way around it well enough to play the games my daughter loaded onto it for her age-group. It's teaching her to read remarkably quickly and it's fun Someone just upgraded from 10.04 and after answering a couple of questions, I pointed him to the poster. He found it very helpful. I think older folk are more likely to need instructions; young folk are used to intuiting their way around a smartphone or similar and getting results by trial and error. And it's great when you can have someone looking over your shoulder and giving helpful hints. That isn't always possible, so I really would like to see that poster linked from the Ubuntu site. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
Hello all and Alan I am not actually advocating the use of the poster. The choice of resources in any situation must be made by each facilitator bearing in mind the needs of the group that they are working with. The idea for the poster came from responses to questions from people on the Ubuntuforums Ubuntu + 1 subforum. I simply thought that an introduction to Unity for those who have not made the journey through 11.04 and 11.10 might be useful for some people. Best of luck with your work. I would be interested in the outcome of the 'user trial' that has been mentioned as well. Cheers -- Keith Burnett http://sohcahtoa.org.uk/ -Original Message- From: alan c Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:13:45 To: Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster On 25/04/12 20:54, Barry Drake wrote: > On 25/04/12 17:08, alan c wrote: >> A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my >> novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think >> would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What >> about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? > > Alan - I'm not entirely sure I agree. The language and examples are > very simply put. I'm expecting to upgrade my sister from 10.04 to 12.04 > fairly soon. I'll ask her to look at it. I'll also ask her > stepdaughter to take a look. She is almost entirely Windows (although > she has recently started work at SpecSavers). Hi Barry. I am dealing with 60 plus ages and they are all technophobes using Ubuntu without reading any instructions at all. Some are adults with learning difficulty. The thought of even -me- needing to look at such an information diagram is an unpleasant thought for me. It is ironic indeed that Ubuntu gets to rival a Mac in GUI simplicity, and straight away it is advocated that a technical diagram is needed to explain it! It reminds me (with grim humour) of the 'I'm sorry I haven't a clue' item of 'one song to the tune of another', where the chair deliberately obfuscates the rules. When unity was user tested formally, what written instructions were provided? I bet, none. By making such diagrams very public it is signalling I think quite wrongly that the GUI is difficult. I think that is a bad message for public broadcast. Thinking advertising here. Anyway, there will be a best target audience, but I am sure it will not anyone I help. Good luck though. (Watch their eyes) -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 25/04/12 20:54, Barry Drake wrote: > On 25/04/12 17:08, alan c wrote: >> A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my >> novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think >> would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What >> about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? > > Alan - I'm not entirely sure I agree. The language and examples are > very simply put. I'm expecting to upgrade my sister from 10.04 to 12.04 > fairly soon. I'll ask her to look at it. I'll also ask her > stepdaughter to take a look. She is almost entirely Windows (although > she has recently started work at SpecSavers). Hi Barry. I am dealing with 60 plus ages and they are all technophobes using Ubuntu without reading any instructions at all. Some are adults with learning difficulty. The thought of even -me- needing to look at such an information diagram is an unpleasant thought for me. It is ironic indeed that Ubuntu gets to rival a Mac in GUI simplicity, and straight away it is advocated that a technical diagram is needed to explain it! It reminds me (with grim humour) of the 'I'm sorry I haven't a clue' item of 'one song to the tune of another', where the chair deliberately obfuscates the rules. When unity was user tested formally, what written instructions were provided? I bet, none. By making such diagrams very public it is signalling I think quite wrongly that the GUI is difficult. I think that is a bad message for public broadcast. Thinking advertising here. Anyway, there will be a best target audience, but I am sure it will not anyone I help. Good luck though. (Watch their eyes) -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 25/04/12 17:08, alan c wrote: A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? Alan - I'm not entirely sure I agree. The language and examples are very simply put. I'm expecting to upgrade my sister from 10.04 to 12.04 fairly soon. I'll ask her to look at it. I'll also ask her stepdaughter to take a look. She is almost entirely Windows (although she has recently started work at SpecSavers). Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 25/04/12 13:29, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi again Keith, On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: I will try to get through the spreadbuntu deflection shields later on today. It seems quite hard to get stuff through their spam checkers. I uploaded it for you. http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster Hope that's okay. Cheers, Al. Al Thanks very much for doing that The spreadubuntu link is on the ubuntuforum thread for the poster now. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
Hello Alan and all The target audience I had in mind was those in organisations where computers are moving from 10.04 to 12.04, an LTS to LTS upgrade. Hence not 'novices' either in Linux or in the use of computers. Most Colleges, libraries, adult education centres in the UK base their IT instruction around Windows, so I guess Microsoft can look after itself. Cheers --Original Message-- From: alan c Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com ReplyTo: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster Sent: 25 Apr 2012 17:08 On 25/04/12 12:26, Barry Drake wrote: > On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: >> I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can >> fit on the poster!) > > Splendid work! Thanks. I really think this is too useful to be > ignored. I hope somebody with write access will link it into the Ubuntu > web site. A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Keith Burnett http://sohcahtoa.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 25/04/12 12:26, Barry Drake wrote: > On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: >> I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can >> fit on the poster!) > > Splendid work! Thanks. I really think this is too useful to be > ignored. I hope somebody with write access will link it into the Ubuntu > web site. A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi again Keith, On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: > I will try to get through the spreadbuntu deflection shields later > on today. It seems quite hard to get stuff through their spam > checkers. > I uploaded it for you. http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster Hope that's okay. Cheers, Al. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPl+4wAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wUWoH/jBCqXL0y8ZHgFP6M4uM52fs gA1rF5Kr2WqppFQ0ZcmYNNDW+FK4k3fakmGi4re4LSI2OW8ykKMdUJeg81MCx6QT O+Z4g1zbSFDoZVcoh0XT4IDVwZ0Po0QZPgJ+IyA4h4vzEghfE3zvJgnS1lbMnE69 bixpldcYfjyjVRjJBSYfy1CYBnXMCy3gbYL9TKmlDqh0ebBxURP1qGM6tORzvhBH ldxlDUG3jvKcbvOuTQkgJ9WidjXFbx14xDrA+C0mDSK3KeHi8PpUj1BcTBRXea5e GBcWXB4A6X0NbJTDiFlxsqo/BWK8/LMn8FO0OdcSrleehSwizoDFBn51MwzttWk= =Yh/W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 25/04/2012 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can fit on the poster!) This is really good. Very well done! mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
I tried to reply to this post from k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk but I keep getting asked for an encryption key before sending -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can fit on the poster!) Splendid work! Thanks. I really think this is too useful to be ignored. I hope somebody with write access will link it into the Ubuntu web site. Kind regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
Hello All I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can fit on the poster!) Below is a link to the PDF file - this is the one to send to end users and anyone who might want to print the poster http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf The link below is to the ODP file. Fork this as you wish. If you come up with anything good, pop it on Ubuntu One or Dropbox and post a link back here. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.odp I will try to get through the spreadbuntu deflection shields later on today. It seems quite hard to get stuff through their spam checkers. Cheers > Original Message >From: kpb >To: alan.p...@canonical.com, UK Ubuntu Talk >Sent: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:58:57 +0100 (BST) >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster > >On 21/04/12 11:49, Alan Pope wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote: >>> Hello All >>> >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf >>> >> Nice work. Where do I file bugs? :) >Here >> >> Minor niggle, the diagram in the top left implies that the button in >> the top left of the screen with the Ubuntu logo on _is_ the dash. It's >> actually referred to as the "BFB" (Big Freaking Button) or "Ubuntu >> Button" which launches the dash. > >Well, that is the first I've heard of that and I've been a happy Unity >user for the last couple of releases. When I hold my mouse over the >BFB, it says Dash Home, so I assumed that was the name of the button as >well as an indication of what it leads to. > >I'll look at changing the name of the button to Ubuntu Button (can't you >guys think of a shorter name?) > >> >> Be good to upload it to spreadubuntu so others can get it. > >OK, its not really marketing though. > >> >> Cheers, >> - -- >> Alan Pope >> Engineering Manager >> >> Canonical - Product Strategy >> +44 (0) 7973 620 164 >> alan.p...@canonical.com >> http://ubuntu.com/ >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkpC8AAoJEMx6UFtfvV4w0FIIAKqV5HqPVX/gmacIO6PfMSIQ >> ULwB+QYxqTQAFfQAcIyY+QftskbuHs5sVyD1YE9kP+bxLlm+lOhqtHCxd0ArqgPA >> mUUQzhte+bU9Sf+dHonQM98BiA3prS0wg2iDWSM5uR3gyIuNsyotAxFrr0BiuAF7 >> rYlm4FR3Nm3FABYs6P3Q3TT9YuKrKcawkcYSzfkJ/FAnODHPC9MBtU93fodoIHFn >> gP/7c4Yu5whwAvKyfTE0ycBl3Nwcbi4dGgUeXt/LzlN2Y2Y0EPpJz0kaPe8o9hJX >> gGTaE5IBJozTi/78usSiSbXxYPDif4FhaMch9pGH3HfxZHpf2i2ypA4VIXORLsY= >> =TfVM >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> > > >-- >ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
- Mensaje original - > On 21/04/12 12:26, kpb wrote: > > > > Anyone: Please reply to this with any other suggestions or things that > > strike you as potentially confusing for 10.04 people and I'll put what > > I can in on Tuesday evening. > > maybe not unity: but the login screen might confuse some: good is the guest account that seems to erase after you log out. I think it is easily missed but i like it a lot. Might be bad that can't change keyboard layout or language at login. There are bugs (regresions) but i'm sure they will be fixed by 12.04.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
A tips and tricks page (like, a cool stuff that you can do with ubuntu page) would be awesome! I'd start on it myself, but I don't know any cool tricks or tips to put on there! Cheers, Simon On 21 April 2012 13:33, Barry Drake wrote: > On 21/04/12 12:26, kpb wrote: >> >> >> Anyone: Please reply to this with any other suggestions or things that >> strike you as potentially confusing for 10.04 people and I'll put what I can >> in on Tuesday evening. >> > > Great work! I wonder if the filter on the applications lens might be worth > a mention? It's quite a powerful tool on 12.04 and the easiest way to find > an app when you can't remember what it is called. > > Regards, Barry. > > -- > Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. > http://ubuntuadverts.org/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 21/04/12 12:26, kpb wrote: Anyone: Please reply to this with any other suggestions or things that strike you as potentially confusing for 10.04 people and I'll put what I can in on Tuesday evening. Great work! I wonder if the filter on the applications lens might be worth a mention? It's quite a powerful tool on 12.04 and the easiest way to find an app when you can't remember what it is called. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 21/04/12 12:00, mac wrote: On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote: ...The link above leads to a poster that summarises the basics of Unity.The odp file is available if anyone needs to customise it. Let me know what you think. Really useful and concise summary for those of us upgrading LTS->LTS, as you describe. (One small point - the labelling in the general diagram makes it look as though the Launcher is called 'The Software Centre'; it's not clear that the labelled arrow is pointing to a particular icon rather than naming the whole column.) Really good contribution for those of us who haven't been keeping up! Many thanks! mac @mac: yes, ok I'll use a circle round the icons rather than an arrow @alan.pope: I tried, see screen grab. I'll try again Tuesday evening. The odp file is obtainable by replacing .pdf with .odp in the dropbox link. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/spreadbuntu-fail.png Anyone: Please reply to this with any other suggestions or things that strike you as potentially confusing for 10.04 people and I'll put what I can in on Tuesday evening. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/04/12 11:58, kpb wrote: > Nice work. Where do I file bugs? :) >> Here > Excellent! I do appreciate you taking the time to do this, and it's nice that you used Ubuntu to make it :) >> Well, that is the first I've heard of that and I've been a happy >> Unity user for the last couple of releases. When I hold my mouse >> over the BFB, it says Dash Home, so I assumed that was the name >> of the button as well as an indication of what it leads to. > Yeah, I think BFB is the kinda 'internal' jokey name for it, but it's stuck. >> I'll look at changing the name of the button to Ubuntu Button >> (can't you guys think of a shorter name?) > I think "Ubuntu Button" gets used by people who don't know it's BFB, or don't like the name BFB. >> OK, its not really marketing though. > Sure, but spreadubuntu is used for any material people find valuable for the advocacy and marketing of Ubuntu. Your document certainly fulfils that. If you could upload the source document that would also be great, then people could easily translate it. Thanks for sharing! Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkpTOAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wCGUH/R17S0PSo/4i8Y4iOhU1A0Lg G2ACmSgGycDvzd6N4rrkTXrO0D5+p3rLRYFpBwNotpbZcFQJbWESob8UozdKO5Cq aW59dSHHXB5qA9hFL8PfzSfVv/cGWqBA2vDDV5AqRuCs2IFlusNgJvJW/eNnsb4P vQTw0IM2cxN4r06bD3u/sGA/O+rcE0TFdz0iZ6F+jhcrKe1QkZytcIJ04GHufADL 7h0XLugCm++SUoFhh9G3vP5sPCjZAb247hDMyhsdtWkCaDh21Nv9Sm1kgRMwgx/N 7Qyhiw/pPOb1fuww+P0u5+uBiCgLbRoIcwiTNfPShuTlYc+8z2ocu+uLKZ1j2Qo= =bpYT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote: ...The link above leads to a poster that summarises the basics of Unity.The odp file is available if anyone needs to customise it. Let me know what you think. Really useful and concise summary for those of us upgrading LTS->LTS, as you describe. (One small point - the labelling in the general diagram makes it look as though the Launcher is called 'The Software Centre'; it's not clear that the labelled arrow is pointing to a particular icon rather than naming the whole column.) Really good contribution for those of us who haven't been keeping up! Many thanks! mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 21/04/12 11:49, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote: Hello All http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf Nice work. Where do I file bugs? :) Here Minor niggle, the diagram in the top left implies that the button in the top left of the screen with the Ubuntu logo on _is_ the dash. It's actually referred to as the "BFB" (Big Freaking Button) or "Ubuntu Button" which launches the dash. Well, that is the first I've heard of that and I've been a happy Unity user for the last couple of releases. When I hold my mouse over the BFB, it says Dash Home, so I assumed that was the name of the button as well as an indication of what it leads to. I'll look at changing the name of the button to Ubuntu Button (can't you guys think of a shorter name?) Be good to upload it to spreadubuntu so others can get it. OK, its not really marketing though. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkpC8AAoJEMx6UFtfvV4w0FIIAKqV5HqPVX/gmacIO6PfMSIQ ULwB+QYxqTQAFfQAcIyY+QftskbuHs5sVyD1YE9kP+bxLlm+lOhqtHCxd0ArqgPA mUUQzhte+bU9Sf+dHonQM98BiA3prS0wg2iDWSM5uR3gyIuNsyotAxFrr0BiuAF7 rYlm4FR3Nm3FABYs6P3Q3TT9YuKrKcawkcYSzfkJ/FAnODHPC9MBtU93fodoIHFn gP/7c4Yu5whwAvKyfTE0ycBl3Nwcbi4dGgUeXt/LzlN2Y2Y0EPpJz0kaPe8o9hJX gGTaE5IBJozTi/78usSiSbXxYPDif4FhaMch9pGH3HfxZHpf2i2ypA4VIXORLsY= =TfVM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote: > Hello All > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf > Nice work. Where do I file bugs? :) Minor niggle, the diagram in the top left implies that the button in the top left of the screen with the Ubuntu logo on _is_ the dash. It's actually referred to as the "BFB" (Big Freaking Button) or "Ubuntu Button" which launches the dash. Be good to upload it to spreadubuntu so others can get it. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkpC8AAoJEMx6UFtfvV4w0FIIAKqV5HqPVX/gmacIO6PfMSIQ ULwB+QYxqTQAFfQAcIyY+QftskbuHs5sVyD1YE9kP+bxLlm+lOhqtHCxd0ArqgPA mUUQzhte+bU9Sf+dHonQM98BiA3prS0wg2iDWSM5uR3gyIuNsyotAxFrr0BiuAF7 rYlm4FR3Nm3FABYs6P3Q3TT9YuKrKcawkcYSzfkJ/FAnODHPC9MBtU93fodoIHFn gP/7c4Yu5whwAvKyfTE0ycBl3Nwcbi4dGgUeXt/LzlN2Y2Y0EPpJz0kaPe8o9hJX gGTaE5IBJozTi/78usSiSbXxYPDif4FhaMch9pGH3HfxZHpf2i2ypA4VIXORLsY= =TfVM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote: > Hello All > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf > > It struck me that someone doing an LTS -> LTS upgrade to 12.04 might > find the change in UI a little disorienting. > > The link above leads to a poster that summarises the basics of > Unity.The odp file is available if anyone needs to customise it. > > Let me know what you think. > That looks really neat, thanks, should also be useful when promotion the OS Paul -- -- http://www.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster
On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote: Hello All http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf It struck me that someone doing an LTS -> LTS upgrade to 12.04 might find the change in UI a little disorienting. The link above leads to a poster that summarises the basics of Unity.The odp file is available if anyone needs to customise it. Let me know what you think. Ooh, I like that, its good on the eyes and simple to read...thanks. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
