Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
Ok, just worked out how to do the clean install of Ubuntu Netbook using usb stick. had a few problems, but got it working now. Problem is, I cant work out how to use it. Is there a guide for the Netbook version. Thanks. On 07/02/11 18:54, gazz wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 18:28 +, John MM wrote: Hi, I have an Acer Aspire One, and I am running Ubuntu 10.10. Since upgrading to this version, I am getting the same problem, I cant use USB sticks and I cant plug in my external dvd rewriter. It gives an error 'unable to mount usb stick, not authorised'. It seems to be a Ubuntu problem, and so far I havent been able to find a fix for it. I want to do a fresh install, but I cant because it wont accept both. This bug seems to have been around for a while, I vaguely remember encountering it a few versions ago - there's a discussion of it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/518533 - I could still mount them manually on the commandline, I think it's Nautilus causing the problem. Some people suggest the only way to fix it is a clean re-install. It sounds like your system might need reinstalling anyway. If you're reinstalling from USB, you only need the BIOS to recognise the stick, not Ubuntu, so this shouldn't be a problem if you can get someone to create an installation stick for you or burn a CD for your external USB CD drive? I'd probably put 10.04 on it as 10.10 doesn't have long to run. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 07/02/11 12:21, Dave Morley wrote: Most early netbooks ran linpus lite which obviously isn't Ubuntu. If it's a Toshiba NB100 which came out at the same time as the Acer Aspire, it'll have had 8.04 LTS on it... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 08/02/11 10:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: When you say icons at the sidebar presumably you mean in the sidebar sections? Install Google Chrome and the icon will appear in the Internet section. Right-click on it to add to the Favorites section. Similarly you can right-click on the Firefox icon in Favorites and choose Remove. (That does not uninstall it - just removes it from the section). Same with TBird - install it and the icon appears in the Internet section. Right-click to add to Favorites, right-click on Evolution to remove from favorites. Well, that is what I thought, I did try that, but it seems I dont have that option, no right click. Insert the DVD drive to a USB port, then click on the Files and Folders section on the L/H side. The mounted disk will appear in a window below all the internal files and folders. If you need more specific help then I'll try and post some pictures on my blog... I just looked in there, and its not showing up. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 08/02/11 11:03, John MM wrote: On 08/02/11 10:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: When you say icons at the sidebar presumably you mean in the sidebar sections? Install Google Chrome and the icon will appear in the Internet section. Right-click on it to add to the Favorites section. Similarly you can right-click on the Firefox icon in Favorites and choose Remove. (That does not uninstall it - just removes it from the section). Same with TBird - install it and the icon appears in the Internet section. Right-click to add to Favorites, right-click on Evolution to remove from favorites. Well, that is what I thought, I did try that, but it seems I dont have that option, no right click. Interesting. Not sure why And what version of Netbook Remix are you using? Insert the DVD drive to a USB port, then click on the Files and Folders section on the L/H side. The mounted disk will appear in a window below all the internal files and folders. If you need more specific help then I'll try and post some pictures on my blog... I just looked in there, and its not showing up. Tried putting a Disk in it? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 08/02/11 11:11, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Interesting. Not sure why And what version of Netbook Remix are you using? I am using Maverick 10.10Kernel Linux 2.6.35-26 Generic, Gnome 2.32.0 Tried putting a Disk in it? Yeh, the disc was already in there, when I inserted it. I have tried half a dozen discs. No joy. Its like I have the same problem before reformat, but without the error message, 'cant mount, not authorised'. Looked in User Groups, I'm admin, so have everything ticked for admin. But still not allowing dvd player to work. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 08/02/11 11:27, John MM wrote: On 08/02/11 11:11, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Interesting. Not sure why And what version of Netbook Remix are you using? I am using Maverick 10.10Kernel Linux 2.6.35-26 Generic, Gnome 2.32.0 Maybe that's a feature in 10.10. Tried asking on the Remix forum in Ubuntu forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=376 Tried putting a Disk in it? Yeh, the disc was already in there, when I inserted it. I have tried half a dozen discs. No joy. Its like I have the same problem before reformat, but without the error message, 'cant mount, not authorised'. Looked in User Groups, I'm admin, so have everything ticked for admin. But still not allowing dvd player to work. Have you tried taking the disk out, disconnecting, restarting, re-connecting after Ubuntu has come up and then inserting the disk? I have to say I have none of this with 10.04 Remixit sees my external USB DVDRW drive every time... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 08/02/11 11:51, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Maybe that's a feature in 10.10. Tried asking on the Remix forum in Ubuntu forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=376 I havent tried that yet, will try now. Have you tried taking the disk out, disconnecting, restarting, re-connecting after Ubuntu has come up and then inserting the disk? I have to say I have none of this with 10.04 Remixit sees my external USB DVDRW drive every time... Basically I tried everything I could think of, all that you have already suggested. What is a bit concerning is I dont have right click on any of the icons, I cant even right click on the desktop. So I'm wondering if its a 10.10 problem. I thought it might have fixed itself with a clean install, but nope. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 21:22 +, Dianne Reuby wrote: A friend has asked me to look at her husbands netbook, which is running Linux. He bought it from Tesco two years ago, so I think it probably *is* Ubuntu. His problems are mainly that it doesn't recognise USB devices when they're plugged in, and it downloads updates but doesn't install them. He wants to do more than email and web browsing, which is all he feels he can do at the moment (it has shortcuts on the desktop for email and firefox). If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? She thinks his cunning plan is to break it so he can buy a new one, but I don't want to be the one that breaks it! :) TIA Dianne Is he downloading the updates or is he actually just checking the repos which in older versions of Ubuntu said downloading updates from x In which case it might be up-to-date and just not look it. Are you sure it is Ubuntu try running uname -a in a terminal Most early netbooks ran linpus lite which obviously isn't Ubuntu. Try Ubuntu via a usb pen drive if that is working fine there is nothing wrong with the machine. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
My Acer Aspire One is two years old, came with: Linpus; 1Gb RAM; 120Gb HDD. It's never had a problem running the full desktop Ubuntu. Some of them at that time did come with 512mb RAM in which case I would upgrade to 1Gb and go from there. Hope that helps. Bruce On 4 February 2011 21:22, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: A friend has asked me to look at her husbands netbook, which is running Linux. He bought it from Tesco two years ago, so I think it probably *is* Ubuntu. His problems are mainly that it doesn't recognise USB devices when they're plugged in, and it downloads updates but doesn't install them. He wants to do more than email and web browsing, which is all he feels he can do at the moment (it has shortcuts on the desktop for email and firefox). If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? She thinks his cunning plan is to break it so he can buy a new one, but I don't want to be the one that breaks it! :) TIA Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 4 February 2011 21:22, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: A friend has asked me to look at her husbands netbook, which is running Linux. He bought it from Tesco two years ago, so I think it probably *is* Ubuntu. His problems are mainly that it doesn't recognise USB devices when they're plugged in, and it downloads updates but doesn't install them. He wants to do more than email and web browsing, which is all he feels he can do at the moment (it has shortcuts on the desktop for email and firefox). If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? She thinks his cunning plan is to break it so he can buy a new one, but I don't want to be the one that breaks it! :) TIA Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Doesn't sound like Ubuntu - but the laptop would run a full installation of Ubuntu. Where are you? Is there anyone running installation workshops near you? Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
Hi, I have an Acer Aspire One, and I am running Ubuntu 10.10. Since upgrading to this version, I am getting the same problem, I cant use USB sticks and I cant plug in my external dvd rewriter. It gives an error 'unable to mount usb stick, not authorised'. It seems to be a Ubuntu problem, and so far I havent been able to find a fix for it. I want to do a fresh install, but I cant because it wont accept both. On 07/02/11 12:56, gazz wrote: On 4 February 2011 21:22, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: A friend has asked me to look at her husbands netbook, which is running Linux. He bought it from Tesco two years ago, so I think it probably *is* Ubuntu. His problems are mainly that it doesn't recognise USB devices when they're plugged in, and it downloads updates but doesn't install them. He wants to do more than email and web browsing, which is all he feels he can do at the moment (it has shortcuts on the desktop for email and firefox). If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? She thinks his cunning plan is to break it so he can buy a new one, but I don't want to be the one that breaks it! :) TIA Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Doesn't sound like Ubuntu - but the laptop would run a full installation of Ubuntu. Where are you? Is there anyone running installation workshops near you? Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 18:28 +, John MM wrote: Hi, I have an Acer Aspire One, and I am running Ubuntu 10.10. Since upgrading to this version, I am getting the same problem, I cant use USB sticks and I cant plug in my external dvd rewriter. It gives an error 'unable to mount usb stick, not authorised'. It seems to be a Ubuntu problem, and so far I havent been able to find a fix for it. I want to do a fresh install, but I cant because it wont accept both. This bug seems to have been around for a while, I vaguely remember encountering it a few versions ago - there's a discussion of it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/518533 - I could still mount them manually on the commandline, I think it's Nautilus causing the problem. Some people suggest the only way to fix it is a clean re-install. It sounds like your system might need reinstalling anyway. If you're reinstalling from USB, you only need the BIOS to recognise the stick, not Ubuntu, so this shouldn't be a problem if you can get someone to create an installation stick for you or burn a CD for your external USB CD drive? I'd probably put 10.04 on it as 10.10 doesn't have long to run. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
Well, I didnt really want to do a reinstall but with the usb and dvd problem, I couldnt see any other way. I tried everything else, and it just didnt work. This problem seems to be an ongoing thing, does anybody know why it hasnt been fixed? On 07/02/11 18:54, gazz wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 18:28 +, John MM wrote: Hi, I have an Acer Aspire One, and I am running Ubuntu 10.10. Since upgrading to this version, I am getting the same problem, I cant use USB sticks and I cant plug in my external dvd rewriter. It gives an error 'unable to mount usb stick, not authorised'. It seems to be a Ubuntu problem, and so far I havent been able to find a fix for it. I want to do a fresh install, but I cant because it wont accept both. This bug seems to have been around for a while, I vaguely remember encountering it a few versions ago - there's a discussion of it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/518533 - I could still mount them manually on the commandline, I think it's Nautilus causing the problem. Some people suggest the only way to fix it is a clean re-install. It sounds like your system might need reinstalling anyway. If you're reinstalling from USB, you only need the BIOS to recognise the stick, not Ubuntu, so this shouldn't be a problem if you can get someone to create an installation stick for you or burn a CD for your external USB CD drive? I'd probably put 10.04 on it as 10.10 doesn't have long to run. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 4 February 2011 21:22, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: A friend has asked me to look at her husbands netbook, which is running Linux. He bought it from Tesco two years ago, so I think it probably *is* Ubuntu. His problems are mainly that it doesn't recognise USB devices when they're plugged in, and it downloads updates but doesn't install them. He wants to do more than email and web browsing, which is all he feels he can do at the moment (it has shortcuts on the desktop for email and firefox). If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? She thinks his cunning plan is to break it so he can buy a new one, but I don't want to be the one that breaks it! :) At that age, and depending on the make, it might not be. The Acer Aspire One, for example, uses a Fedora based distribution called Linpus Lite. If it has a 'helper' desktop, there are still ways of starting a Gnome desktop on it. For that matter you can install an up to date version of Ubuntu on it using a pen drive. I think we need more information though. Simon -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood My CV: http://bit.ly/sfg http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv_new_cv Is this your sanderling? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 21:22 +, Dianne Reuby wrote: If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? Back then, Tesco sold a model with Ubuntu - I think it may have been a Dell. If so, Dell used 8.04 that was customised by Dell. It was a bit like 10.04 Netbook Remix, but not quite the same. If it is, I have a CD that Dell sent that I could post an ISO of. I put 10.04 Netbook Remix on my Dell Mini 10v the day I got it. Quite nice. With regard to breaking it. Why not make a USB stick or SD card from CloneZilla? You can make an image (to another card) of the entire drive on the NetBook before starting. That way you can restore to the original if you break it. Also, he may have had a CD with an image supplied when he bought it. Maybe talk him through copying the output from sudo lshw and e-mailing it to you before you go further? Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 04/02/11 21:22, Dianne Reuby wrote: A friend has asked me to look at her husbands netbook, which is running Linux. He bought it from Tesco two years ago, so I think it probably *is* Ubuntu. It could also be Linpus (if it's an Acer) or one of the many other distros. IIRC the only Netbooks I've seen with Ubuntu installed were Toshibas or Dells. His problems are mainly that it doesn't recognise USB devices when they're plugged in, and it downloads updates but doesn't install them. He wants to do more than email and web browsing, which is all he feels he can do at the moment (it has shortcuts on the desktop for email and firefox). If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? I'd hazard a guess it is pre-unity. It's probably a good idea to find out if it is Ubuntu first. If it is (or isn't) you can always boot off an Ubuntu USB stick and copy his data off (maybe on to a separate stick for good measure) and then reinstall a fresh copy of Ubuntu (maybe give him the option to try Ubuntu Netbook and the standard version of Ubuntu to see what he prefers. She thinks his cunning plan is to break it so he can buy a new one, but I don't want to be the one that breaks it! :) So cunning that he'll end up with a netbook with a cut down copy of Windows 7 on it most probably :-o Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 21:22 +, Dianne Reuby wrote: If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? Forgot to say you could grab the ISO of NetBook Remix 10.04 and run it as a live CD. What you will see may be similar to what he has if it is Ubuntu. If you get lshw (or lspci), check what wifi chip there is. There have been problems with one of the chipsets (the one I have ) since 9.04 I think. I am not on my Net Book, but I will check if you need me to. Regards,Barry -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On 04/02/11 21:22, Dianne Reuby wrote: A friend has asked me to look at her husbands netbook, which is running Linux. He bought it from Tesco two years ago, so I think it probably *is* Ubuntu. His problems are mainly that it doesn't recognise USB devices when they're plugged in, and it downloads updates but doesn't install them. He wants to do more than email and web browsing, which is all he feels he can do at the moment (it has shortcuts on the desktop for email and firefox). If it's two years old, and he hasn't upgraded, will it be pre-Unity? As I've never used a netbook, only Ubuntu on desktops and laptops, will I be able to find my way around it? She thinks his cunning plan is to break it so he can buy a new one, but I don't want to be the one that breaks it! :) Easiest whatever to make a couple of live USB sticks, 10.04 netbook, and 10.10 netbook, run them each live and check everything works, then suggest a reinstall of something modern. !0.04 netbook (will have lots of updates) is a fairly benign netbook interface, so you will escape unity until the dust settles If he *wants* a new one, then maybe don't swim against the tide *too* much, just offer to install Ubuntu anyway, and they will see the old one is probably good competition for an expensive and potentially troublesome, new one.. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook Ubuntu v. plain Ubuntu
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 22:10 +, alan c wrote: Easiest whatever to make a couple of live USB sticks, 10.04 netbook, and 10.10 netbook, run them each live and check everything works, then suggest a reinstall of something modern. !0.04 netbook (will have lots of updates) is a fairly benign netbook interface, so you will escape unity until the dust settles Unless you have the wi-fi chip that became a problem after a Kernel upgrade sorry, don't exactly know which one. May be some info on the forums. I am going to look through any old kernels I've saved, and try to find where the problem starts if I can. I've got to find out before next month as I have the problem! It is that you can log on to some wi-fi transmitters, and not to others ... It's really enigmatic and bothersome. Now I know the make and model of one hub which WON'T work, I might just go out and spend my £25 to buy one and investigate Discovered the nature of the problem at OpenSource Expo Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
