Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Booth at Maker Faire

[Jack Deslippe]

Thanks James!

I'll send you more info. in the next few days.

Cheers,

Jack

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:01 PM, James Ouyang  wrote:

> Hey Jack,
>
> I can definitely help out on Sunday (and maybe Saturday afternoon).
>
> See you tomorrow,
>
> James
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jack Deslippe  wrote:
> > Thanks Philip and Aaditya!  I'll send you more information in the next
> day
> > or so including how to get in for free and times etc...
> >
> > I'll be in and out of UDS next week; so, if you are going, I'll probably
> run
> > into you there as well.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Philip Ballew 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I will be there, can be there both days possibly. I would be glad to
> help
> >> out.
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jack Deslippe 
> wrote:
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > I know everyone is busy prepping for UDS, but I wanted to bring your
> >> > attention for a minute to an event happening the weekend after:
> >> >
> >> > I have gotten a booth for BerkeleyLUG (actual title is - "Bay Area
> Linux
> >> > Groups") at the maker faire in two weeks - http://makerfaire.com/.
>  I am
> >> > hoping a couple people from Ubuntu California can make it to help man
> >> > the
> >> > booth and show off the latest and greatest stuff in Ubuntu. Let me
> know
> >> > if
> >> > you are interested - I should have some free or discounted tickets
> >> > available.
> >> >
> >> > Elizabeth - can I get some disks? :)
> >> >
> >> > -Jack
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Booth at Maker Faire

[Jack Deslippe]

Thanks Philip and Aaditya!  I'll send you more information in the next day
or so including how to get in for free and times etc...

I'll be in and out of UDS next week; so, if you are going, I'll probably
run into you there as well.

Cheers,

Jack

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Philip Ballew wrote:

> I will be there, can be there both days possibly. I would be glad to help
> out.
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jack Deslippe  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I know everyone is busy prepping for UDS, but I wanted to bring your
> > attention for a minute to an event happening the weekend after:
> >
> > I have gotten a booth for BerkeleyLUG (actual title is - "Bay Area Linux
> > Groups") at the maker faire in two weeks - http://makerfaire.com/.  I am
> > hoping a couple people from Ubuntu California can make it to help man the
> > booth and show off the latest and greatest stuff in Ubuntu. Let me know
> if
> > you are interested - I should have some free or discounted tickets
> > available.
> >
> > Elizabeth - can I get some disks? :)
> >
> > -Jack
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Booth at Maker Faire

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

I know everyone is busy prepping for UDS, but I wanted to bring your
attention for a minute to an event happening the weekend after:

I have gotten a booth for BerkeleyLUG (actual title is - "Bay Area Linux
Groups") at the maker faire in two weeks - http://makerfaire.com/.  I am
hoping a couple people from Ubuntu California can make it to help man the
booth and show off the latest and greatest stuff in Ubuntu. Let me know if
you are interested - I should have some free or discounted tickets
available.

Elizabeth - can I get some disks? :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] 2011 Elections

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

Just to let you all know, I am not planning on running again.  It was a lot
of fun and very rewarding, but I am starting a new job and have other
commitments this year.

I hope this encourages you to put your name in if you haven't done so
already.  There are a lot of great members of this team - I got to meet a
lot of them at SCALE - that would make great leaders.

So, get your names in!

-Jack
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:58 PM, David Wonderly
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> Greetings and Salutations!
>
> It is that time of year again, this is where we all gather to elect new
> leaders for the Ubuntu California LoCo Team! [1]
>
> The roles and responsibilities of the Leaders can be found on our wiki
> page.
> [2]
>
> The way the election process will work is as follows. Nominations will be
> open
> from the receipt of the email till 1900 Pacific Time on 16 October, 2011.
>
> You can either self nominate (Recommended) or you can nominate someone
> else.
> PLEASE NOTE: If you nominate someone else PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ensure that
> this person wishes to be nominated.
>
> The nominations are simple. Please add the relevant information onto the
> wiki
> page [3] and they will be nominated. Once the nominations are in, if there
> are
> any questions on someones wish to be nominated they will be addressed. Once
> those questions are addressed, assuming that there are more then three
> nominees, a poll will be created for the elections.
>
> The poll will be active for one week. At the end of the week the new
> leadership team will be announced.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about this process please, feel free
> to
> ask me about them.
>
> For the Ubuntu California Leadership Team,
>
> David "DarkwingDuck" Wonderly
>
> [1] http://www.ubuntu-california.org
> [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership
> [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership/2011
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Car Pool to Picnic From East Bay?

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

I am wondering if there is anyone from the East Bay going to the Linux
Picnic on Saturday that I might catch a ride with.  I'll happily pitch in
$10 for gas.

Cheers,

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Meeting tonight, Sunday May 22th at 7PM

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi everyone,

Sorry for the late notice, but tonight we're having our regularly scheduled
bi-weekly LoCo meeting at
7pm PT in #ubuntu-us-ca on freenode.

For help connecting to IRC with a client, see:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat

Or simply join us via your web browser by going here:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-us-ca

So far there is nothing on the agenda, but you can feel free to add
something here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11May22

And as always, logs will be available after the meeting and you're
welcome to add your comments here on the mailing list if you're unable
to attend.

Cheers,

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Meeting tonight, Sunday May 8th at 7PM

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi everyone,

Tonight we're having our regularly scheduled bi-weekly LoCo meeting at
7pm PT in #ubuntu-us-ca on freenode.

For help connecting to IRC with a client, see:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat

Or simply join us via your web browser by going here:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-us-ca

Our agenda for tonight currently consists of:

*Release Party Wrap-ups
*Plans for next cycle
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyRelease)

If you have other topics, feel free to add them here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11May8

And as always, logs will be available after the meeting and you're
welcome to add your comments here on the mailing list if you're unable
to attend.

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Meeting Tonight April 10th

[Jack Deslippe]

Tonight we're having our regularly scheduled bi-weekly LoCo meeting at
7pm PT in #ubuntu-us-ca on freenode.

For help connecting to IRC with a client, see:
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Or simply join us via your web browser by going here:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-us-ca

Our agenda for tonight currently consists of:

1. Ubuntu Global Jam Wrapups
2. 11.04 Release party planning

If you have other topic, feel free to add them here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11April10

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Updated CD Sleeves for California Team

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Awesome.  They look good to me.  Unless someone points out something I am
missing, I am going to print a bunch of these tomorrow.

-Jack

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Mr. Andrzejak wrote:

> Posted below are the updated CD sleeves in three formats: SVG, PDF and PNG.
> Let me know if anything needs to be changed.
>
> http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/sleeve-02-13-2011.svg
>
> 
> http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/sleeve-02-13-2011.pdf
>
> 
> http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/sleeve-02-13-2011.png
>
> - Dave
>
> ps... I dont know if its just my browsers, but the SVG never looks correct
> until viewed in Inkscape.
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] super team meeting?

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I think conferences like SCALE are a good chance for this...

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM, seidos  wrote:

> is there any interest in the whole team getting together to meet, perhaps
> at some midpoint between northern and southern california, like once a year
> or something?
>
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>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Flickr or Picasaweb?

[Jack Deslippe]

I have a personal preference to Picasa (because it is what I use and has
awesome Android support).

Someone also mentioned command line support at the last meeting.  Picasa
does have good command line support through GoogleCL:
http://code.google.com/p/googlecl/ (which, regardless of this discussion, is
an awesome set of command line tools).

Cheers,

Jack

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> At our last meeting[0] we discussed and agreed upon the proposal to
> keep copies of our images in a directory on the server (probably
> tar.gz) under our control, as well as a copy up on Yahoo!'s Flickr or
> Google's PicasaWeb for display and social media integration (global
> event tagging, loco.ubuntu.com support, etc).
>
> Now it's time to decide which service to use. I don't have a strong
> preference either way (I personally use Flickr, but I also have a
> considerable amount of data with various Google services), but it is
> worth noting:
>
> Access: Both services have APIs and support uploading via f-spot or
> shotwell (and presumably there are other programs which do as well,
> since the API exists).
>
> Cost: The free Flickr account has a monthly limit for uploads and how
> many photos can be displayed at a time, unless you pay a small yearly
> fee if you want unlimited space, Picasa uses shared gmail space for
> approx 7.5G before you need to pay small amounts for space increases.
> The costs for these are small and raising donations won't be a problem
> (I'm even willing to go out of pocket myself on these).
>
> Social Media: Tagging and sharing controls differ between the
> services, and I haven't looked into this. It's probably worthwhile to
> do so.
>
> Other thoughts? Preferences?
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11January02
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Our Shared LoCo Team Identity

[Jack Deslippe]

While I think some uniformity (particularly in the URLs we use) may be
helpful, I don't think it is really a show stopper for new people joining
the group.

Also, if we're going to try to create some uniformity in the
website/twitter/identica/facebook URLs, I have to agree with Eric here:
Ubuntu California (Team) makes the most sense.  ubuntu-us-ca is un-sayable
and has no sex-appeal (to me, it actually sounds even more corporate than
Ubuntu California).

Cheers,

Jack

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Eric Hammond  wrote:

> On 12/21/2010 06:36 PM, Grant Bowman wrote:
>  > I look forward to understanding the viewpoints of team members.
>
> I would vote for "Ubuntu California" or "Ubuntu California Team" for the
> generally used name, and ubuntu-california.org for the web site.
>
> "LoCo" has a strong negative connotation for me, but perhaps that's
> because I grew up in a Spanish speaking country.
>
> "ubuntu-us-ca" is fairly difficult to communicate/understand/remember in
> speech or print.  Fortunately, its uses can be linked to from the web
> site once you've gotten there.
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Photo sharing options

[Jack Deslippe]

My personal preference would be for Picasa - since it is I already what I
use.  I have used gallery2 in the past for wordpress websites, but I was
never very impressed.  Going with Flickr/Picasa means we already have the
social ability built in, which I think is more important than just throwing
up photos on a URL.

-Jack

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This was brought up at the meeting on Sunday
> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/10December19) and it
> was decided to bring the discussion to the mailing list.
>
> Sharing photos post-event has been a bit of a challenge for the team.
> Typically we link to personal photos on flickr, picasaweb and/or our
> own blogs/websites, sometimes we'll upload a few key photos from the
> event to the wiki, but there hasn't been a consolidated strategy for
> collecting all photos, and making sure they are kept around (photos on
> flickr, picasaweb and personal blogs have a tendancy of expiring,
> moving or otherwise disappearing).
>
> loco.ubuntu.com now has support for a team flickr or picasa account so
> that photos will show up directly on
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california
>
> We also have the option of using gallery2 on the Linode (where
> ubuntu-california.org lives), but I have found it to be a bit of a
> challenge to maintain securely in the long-term.
>
> What are the thoughts from the team?
>
> Would going with a closed-source web solution like Flickr or Picasa,
> but which has integration with loco.ubuntu.com, be acceptable to the
> team?
>
> Should we stick with the open source Gallery2?
>
> Should just upload all our photos via SCP to a static directory on the
> webserver and not worry about a CMS for manipulation/displaying?
>
> Are WordPress plugins that people have good experiences with which
> should be considered?
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Announcement: New website

[Jack Deslippe]

It looks really nice!  Great work Website team.

-Jack

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:33 PM, James Tatum  wrote:

> Friendly greetings, California!
>
> The Ubuntu California Website Team is pleased to announce the official
> launch of our new home page. This page is running the official Ubuntu
> Wordpress theme, which is why it looks so slick. It's also running
> Wordpress as a content management system, which means it's simple to
> update. The switch has been flipped and the site has been released to
> the world.
>
> Please check it out, tell your friends, update your CD sleeves, print
> up banners, and get a tattoo with this address:
>
> http://ubuntu-california.org
>
> Stay tuned for more exciting website announcements in the near future.
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] howdy all

[Jack Deslippe]

Here is my info:

http://www.jdeslippe.com - though I also blog a lot at www.berkeleylug.com and
my profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/jdeslip

Cheers!

-Jack

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Jessica Ledbetter <
jess...@jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:
>
>> Hopefully this thread will be less important in a few months though,
>> since one of the things we're taking about for our web site project[0]
>> is including a planet which aggregates member blogs. Much easier to
>> subscribe that way!
>>
>> [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Website
>>
>>
> Planet sounds awesome. :)
>
> And mine: http://www.jessicaledbetter.com/
>
> Just started blogging again. Lots of stuff in draft including some "how do
> I fix a bug."
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Maker Faire Wrap-Up

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I just want to thank everyone who participated in our Booth at the Maker
Faire today.  I think it was a really big success.  We gave out exactly 120
10.10 discs - each representing someone who we had an extended discussion
with.  In general, the attendees today were much more engaging and
interested in Open-Source than the folks at the Solano Stroll.  I'll write a
summary on the wiki page shortly.  Mark took a bunch of pics that hopefully
he can link here.  He also graced the Faire with his Penguin suit.

Special thanks to James and Mark who represented Ubuntu-US-CA at the table
and all the BerkeleyLUG volunteers.  James spent a considerable effort
helping a friend from the Fixit clinic restore several laptops.

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu at the East Bay Maker Faire

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

This is mainly for James, Aaditya and Mark - the folks attending the Maker
Faire tomorrow.  Our final location assignment is on the second level of
Studio One (I guess this is a wide open indoor area).  We are next to the
fixit clinic.

I think you all have my number now, so give me a call when you arrive.  You
will need to get a comped ticket from me to enter.  I think I have exactly
the right number of comped tickets for people who said they were coming.

I have been burning Ubuntu disks all day today, but if anyone can bring some
extras with them that would be awesome.  If anyone has any stickers and
other giveaways etc... that would be awesome too.

Look forward to see you all there.

-Jack



On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jack Deslippe  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The BerkeleyLUG was invited to have a table at the 2010 East Bay Maker
> Faire (ebmakerfaire.com):
> *
> *
> *When:* Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10 am to 5pm
> *Where:* Park Day School, 360 42nd Street, Oakland, CA
> *Who:* Makers, crafters, cooks, musicians, parents, and kids!
>
> Similar to our joint BerkeleyLUG/Ubuntu-US-CA booth at the Solano Stroll,
> we are going to be mostly demoing Ubuntu on various hardware and
> distributing Ubuntu discs, brochures and pamphlets.  Additionally, we are
> located next to the Fixit Clinic - and the organizer is encouraging people
> to bring in old laptops etc... to try Ubuntu on.
>
> It would be awesome if some of the fine folks from the Ubuntu LoCo could
> join us in this event.  It would be great to have the Ubuntu banner and
> some knowledgeable Ubuntu volunteers - particularly if they come with their
> own penguin suits.
>
> I added it to the LoCo event list here:
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/486/detail/ - and added it to our
> projects page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jack
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu at the East Bay Maker Faire

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

The BerkeleyLUG was invited to have a table at the 2010 East Bay Maker Faire
(ebmakerfaire.com):
*
*
*When:* Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10 am to 5pm
*Where:* Park Day School, 360 42nd Street, Oakland, CA
*Who:* Makers, crafters, cooks, musicians, parents, and kids!

Similar to our joint BerkeleyLUG/Ubuntu-US-CA booth at the Solano Stroll, we
are going to be mostly demoing Ubuntu on various hardware and distributing
Ubuntu discs, brochures and pamphlets.  Additionally, we are located next to
the Fixit Clinic - and the organizer is encouraging people to bring in old
laptops etc... to try Ubuntu on.

It would be awesome if some of the fine folks from the Ubuntu LoCo could
join us in this event.  It would be great to have the Ubuntu banner and
some knowledgeable Ubuntu volunteers - particularly if they come with their
own penguin suits.

I added it to the LoCo event list here:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/486/detail/ - and added it to our
projects page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects

Cheers,

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Team Leadership Election Announcement!

[Jack Deslippe]

Yes, I believe we are voting to end the "draft phase" since there were no
proposed amendments for the last week or so.

The document can still be amended in the future - under structure the
following line is written - "This structure is a brief, bare-bones, skeleton
for the California team and can be expanded through the regular decision
making process outlined in Part C."  But, this would occur after the
leadership election next week.

-Jack

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:50 PM, kdemarest  wrote:

> +1 , but i have a couple silly questions.
>
> The document at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership still
> says it's in a draft phase.  is there anything else that should be changed
> before it's no longer a draft?  or are we voting to stop it from being in a
> draft phase?
>
> Is the document open to change after it has been voted on?
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Team Leadership Election Announcement!

[Jack Deslippe]

+1 from me :)

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>  wrote:
> > When will we vote on
> > this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership/  ? I dig it
> > overall. Reminds me of by-laws which I guess all LoCos have by default?
>
> I think we can vote on it now, it seems pretty formalized and there
> hasn't been any discussion in a few days.
>
> +1 from me
>
> > This would answer some of the only questions I have: How long is the
> term?
>
> The document specifies that elections will be held yearly, so 1 year.
>
> > Are the people elected eligible for reelection?
>
> I'd say yes, I've never heard of a term-limit elsewhere in the Ubuntu
> community.
>
> > When does the term start?
>
> The LoCo Council can confirm, but as I understand it it's as soon as
> the voting results are announced (they close on the 24th).
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Code Camp Session went quite well

[Jack Deslippe]

Thanks for organizing this.  I think it was a pretty nice event.  I talked
to a bunch of potential developers about quickly after.

The only comment I have is that next year we should allocate less time to
discussing open-source vs proprietary and Linux vs. Windows.  I noticed a
few people walking out during this part of the talk. Developers already know
these issues and are capable of deciding for themselves whether these issues
are important to them.  I.e. I think we should stick mostly to the technical
reasons for using and developing for Ubuntu when talking to developers in
the future.  And definitely allocating more time to how you can actually
develop apps for ubuntu.

Jack
On Oct 9, 2010 10:25 PM, "nuboon2age"  wrote:
> Today's Code Camp session went quite well. We had about 60 people or so,
> Me, Mark, Ryan, Jack, Aaditya, Earl spoke for something like 85 minutes.
it
> was video taped so we'll have to see how that came out. i'll try to get
all
> the slide presentations up on the project page at least.
>
> <#nuboon2age>Oh, and we were talking to one of the key organizers, Peter
> Kellner afterwards and brainstorming about getting Canonical sponsorship,
> Jono talking there and maybe even Linux Torvalds as a keynote speaker next
> year Quite a potential coup for an event who's major sponsor is M$!!!
>
>
> <#nuboon2age> jtatum almost gave a talk, but we ran out of time. He's at
> least got a presentation/demo ready to do sometime.
>
>
> <#nuboon2age>I met the guy who was wearing the Ubuntu California shirt.
> Jeff Trull from SF and he got the shirt from pleia2. He may be joining us
> here at some point.
>
>
> Drew
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] "The Ubuntu community cannot, and does not want to, prescribe which formal s tructure its local teams should use”

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi,

Just added some stuff to my wiki page here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/jdeslip -
copied style wise almost wholesale from Lyz.

About being inward focused, hopefully this is only temporary - sometimes it
is necessary to clean up your desk/office before you can go on doing more
work. ;)

Cheers,

Jack

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:19 AM, kdemarest  wrote:

> Hi Robert:
>
> Good to hear from you.  I actually had a thought that it is probably too
> inward looking because nobody really knows each other.  Well, I know I don't
> really know anybody.  I did take the time to read everyone's wiki that i
> could get a hold of.  Here is mine:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos.  Do
> you have one?
>
> Quite frankly, I don't really know of anybody on the team that i can really
> work with on stuff.  I'm a part of this team and i still kind of feel alone.
>  Probably my fault, i don't know.
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Robert Lewis wrote:
>
>> This group is to inward looking and therefor self serving in my view.
>>  I think we need to focus on the real common goals of helping others
>> in our efforts to promote Linux within the community.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:30 AM, kdemarest  wrote:
>> > I couldn't help but get the feeling that we might be taking this
>> leadership
>> > election a little too seriously.  Maybe it would help to point out the
>> > truism that a leader can't force anyone to do anything on our team.  All
>> > they can do is make suggestions.  I mean, from the looks of things we're
>> all
>> > volunteers for goodness sakes.  The best that a leader can do is remind
>> us
>> > why we're here, in case we spend too much time chasing our own tails.  I
>> > mean, if we refuse to do what the leader wants, who is going to force
>> us?
>> >  The FOSS police?
>> > We should probably be looking to ourselves for leaders, and not looking
>> > outside ourselves.  Oftentimes, we expect too much from our leaders,
>> because
>> > we expect so little from ourselves.  For this we probably owe our
>> leaders an
>> > apology.
>> >
>> > I still think the best leader is someone who is best at teaching.  I
>> know
>> > for me, personally, I need to connect with knowledgeable individuals who
>> can
>> > *gracefully* show me what I don't know.  I mean, let's just get the fact
>> > that I'm an idiot out of the way, and let's just move forward to try and
>> > reduce my idiocy.  -_-  On this same line of thought, I would suggest
>> that
>> > ego is detrimental to Us.  Wanting to help with FOSS is great, but if
>> you
>> > don't have the knowledge, what good is the desire?  And I don't mean to
>> > project my own feelings of inadequacy on the team, but I really don't
>> see
>> > how the problems I see with Ubuntu, or GNU/Linux for that matter, are
>> > presently going to be solved.
>> > I talked to a friend yesterday.  You know what she said?  I mean, we all
>> > probably already know this, but it is probably worth repeating.  "I want
>> > something that works and is cheap".  How can I, in good faith, recommend
>> > Ubuntu to someone when this is what they are looking for?  What is the
>> sound
>> > bite?  They are not interested in philosophical notions of right and
>> wrong,
>> > monopolies being bad, etc.  They want it to be cheap, and to work.
>>  Enough
>> > said, end of story.  I mean, having their ear is fine.  I suppose the
>> best
>> > that can be done, at present, is planting the seed that there is a more
>> > ethical alternative, that may be cheaper and work better for them (but
>> > probably not on the latter).
>> > This all having been said, if I offended anybody with my candor, let's
>> talk
>> > about it.  I am more than inclined to admit that I'm wrong with my
>> opinions
>> > based on my own limited personal experience.
>> > Speaking of personal experience, I know that my own insistence on
>> working on
>> > my own projects is a major reason why I'm doing them alone.  So if you
>> have
>> > a project you want help with, even if it's just you in front of your
>> > computer "alone" on the Internet, by all means, let me know.  Perhaps
>> others
>> > will feel the same way.
>> > So, this all having been said, here are the projects I'm presently
>> working
>> > on everybody.
>> > *  Trying to figure out why top says that all but 52MB of my RAM is
>> being
>> > utilized at present of 2GB
>> > *  Trying to see if i can configure compiz standalone by following this
>> > guide:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone
>> > * Figuring out how I'm going to host my website
>> > http://www.fictionalphilosophy.org
>> > * Reading Python the Hard way (ug, someone give me some motivation on
>> this
>> > one!).
>> > * Trying to figure out what all the processes in ps aux are for, and if
>> any
>> > can be eliminated.
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] "The Ubuntu community cannot, and does not want to, prescribe which formal s tructure its local teams should use”

[Jack Deslippe]

Mark,

What on earth is the point of this email? And more importnatly, why... why
is written like a LaRouche pamphlet with random quotations and random
highlighting?

The council made a decision to restructure the group because the current
"structure" of the group was not functioning in a way that satisfied basic
requirements for a healthy group (for a start the basic requirements here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership), and despite a years
worth of effort, the group could not find a way to restructure itself. Many
of us have been practically begging them to take a proactive role in
restructuring the group.  It seems to me that the action taken by the
council is exactly the sort of action the council exists to perform.

Though it is extremely difficult to extract the point from the email below,
I believe the issue of logging in the channel comes up multiple times.  I
understand this to be a temporary requirement during the transition period,
with permanent rules still being debated in the LoCo council.  When you
consider that the behavior/language used in the IRC channel does impact how
interested newcomers to the channel view the Ubuntu project, it seems to me
that the council is well within its right to ask for this temporary logging.

The other issue that pops up multiple times in your email is the blocking of
Neal, Nathan, Grant and Yourself from being nominated in this single
election (in one year you are free to be nominated again).  This is likely
in recognition of the obvious fact that those four people have had the most
personal disagreements in the past that lead one way or another to
negativity in the group - and if the four were nominated it would be
difficult, for me at least, to separate voting based on leadership vs.
voting based on the personal issues among the four.  For this reason, I
support the council's decision to remove the four from nominations.

So, for love of Ubuntu and the LoCo, instead of complainubg about the
council's decisions, lets use this opportunity to overcome our growing pains
and to put into place a structure for the LoCo that will make us a more
productive and flexible group for the future.

-Jack

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Mark Terranova wrote:

> When I spoke to the council about our problems here in California, I asked
> for help. At no time did I ask for happiness to be enforced.
>
>
>
> Then, as now, I expressed my concern at decision that were made in
> private. I was under the impression that for the group to function, major
> decisions should be made in public.
>
>
>
> Logging is an important part of some schemes that practice radical
> transparency. This is not just a one way street though. Logging is not
> required for ALL in Ubuntu, the choice is left to the team Forthrightness
> is reasonable to expect from our leaders. This road is not a comfortable one
> by any means. that would require transparency all the way to the top of the
> chain. The group should have expectations of those that watch over iit.
>
>
>
> .
>
> The Cali team is being told, when, where, and most importantly *who* they
> should vote for.  The council has seen fit to prescribe a new *structure*
> for the Team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How was this list arrived at? Who made the decisions? Who almost made the
> list? As you may already know, my name has been put on the chalkboard with a
> few other  miscreants. For a democratic  election mind you. Neal broke no
> actual laws in this state. He is a decent person. He was over-reaching as
> leader at worst.  Maybe this whole experience has helped him learn that.
> Maybe that is a moot point, since people might not vote for him. The group
> has absolutely NO choice here. If he was so horrible, what would be the harm
> in letting him run? (Who would vote for him.) People here wanted equality
> for all, the idea of making him less than, is unfairly punitive and
> certainly not humane.
>
>
>
> As far as myself, I have publicly said there is ZERO chance I would want to
> be in charge of anything here at the present time. That's still true.
>
>
>
> Publicly calling out Nathan and Grant is unforgivable. I know that neither
> of them relishes the idea of having their names immortalized on the *team*
> ML. (My personal standing and rep are not the foremost in my mind.) These
> gentlemen place much value on how they are viewed by others. Both of them
> are tireless in their actions for FOSS. Google their names- see what they
> do, its really cool stuff. Both of them volunteer to teach folks the ways of
> Open Source. Always ready to hand out the Ubuntu CDs, constantly looking
> for an opportunity to recruit new members. They both do something near and
> dear to my heart, they spend time working with charities; donating hardware
> to those most in need.
>
>
>
> “The Ubuntu community cannot, and does not want to, prescribe which formal
> structure its local teams should use”
>
>
>
> Stuff happens, mistakes are easily made. It is better to

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Maverick Release Party in the Bay Area

[Jack Deslippe]

Sunday is a BerkeleyLUG meeting at Bobby G's in Berkeley.  We'd be happy to
have an Ubuntu themed meeting if you guys are interested.  We mostly just
hang out, have some food, hack on a project and share cool developments in
OSS world.  We did a previous Ubuntu release party at BerkeleyLUG and it was
a lot of fun.

-Jack

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Jamal Fanaian  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to find out if we're having a release party in the bay area. I
> heard something about Walnut Creek in IRC but I can't find any hard details.
> Does anyone have any more information on it? If not, do we want to try and
> arrange something?
>
> I'd love to finally get a chance to meet the team in the area, so I'm
> hoping something is happening :)
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Leadership Document

[Jack Deslippe]

Thanks! I personally find all the changes perfectly acceptable. Hopefully
others also find this brief structure reasonable. I edited a few small typos
that originated in my document.

Also, for correctness, I believe that the January date must be in error - I
think I first presented the document to the mailing list  later in 2009.

Cheers,

Jack

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach  wrote:

> (changed the subject to shift the discussion)
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jack Deslippe  wrote:
> >> This is an excellent document and I think will help form the basis for
> >> our leadership document (to be hosted on the wiki) moving forward, you
> >> rock! If you don't mind, I'll try to take some time tonight to put the
> >> key points into wiki format.
> >
> > Sounds good.  Feel free to do whatever you like with it.
>
> I preserved the elements required and structure text almost as they
> were written, omitting portions about the regional leadership as
> discussed:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership
>
> Hopefully this will clear up most of the current questions about "what
> leaders do"
>
> As noted on the page itself, this is a draft. Please discuss! :)
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Team Leadership Election Announcement!

[Jack Deslippe]

> This is an excellent document and I think will help form the basis for
> our leadership document (to be hosted on the wiki) moving forward, you
> rock! If you don't mind, I'll try to take some time tonight to put the
> key points into wiki format.


Sounds good.  Feel free to do whatever you like with it.  I don't
particularly care about any of the details of the proposed structure in that
document.  I just think that the team does need some sort of brief but
well-defined leadership structure in place.  I.e. something that outlines
what the powers of the leadership council are and how they are elected (how
often etc... so people see a clear leadership path) and generally lays out
how decisions are made in the group.  In other words, when we elect the new
council, it would be helpful to have their rules reasonably well defined and
an assurance that voting will happen on a regular  basis.


> While I certainly *like* the proposal of regional leaders, I fear that
> the proposal will need to be worked out some detail-wise and I think
> that is going to take some time. Plus we need to avoid the trap of
> over-engineering a leadership solution that ends up being unwieldy or
> ultimately unnecessary.
>
> How do you feel about an initial 3 person leadership where their
> region is clearly indicated on their wiki page (so people can vote for
> their local person if they want, or at least as some idea who is
> where), see how that works, and then by election time next year we
> plan to have the kinks worked out of the regional idea if it's still
> something we feel is needed?
>

Ya, as I said above, I am not particularly attached to the details of the
structure in that document - it was just a proposal of something I thought
would work at the time. I believe Robert pointed out that defining the
regions would be prohibitively messy.  To be honest, I think any vote is
likely to turn up 3 leaders from different parts of the state since a lot
people will naturally vote for the candidate they know nearby.

Anyway, I am really excited to hear about the progress that has been made in
the last few meetings.  I look forward to voting!  Is their a central
wiki-page where we can see everyone who is running instead of visiting all
the possible individual pages?

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Team Leadership Election Announcement!

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

Some time ago (January 2009 apparently), I crafted the following proposal
for the Cali-team structure -
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AVvuU9dbI-YnZGhtOWh6cHZfMjYzcXpxdDhoZA&hl=en
-
It was met with some interest at the time but never enacted.  While, I am in
no way really attached to any particular detail of that proposal, I will
mention that it contains a three-person leadership council - where
specifically each of the three leaders represented a different region of
California.  Additionally, each was elected once a year.

Sorry I missed the IRC meeting yesterday, but I'd like to mention now that I
think it is important that before this election takes place, we also have in
place a plan to carry out future elections on a regular basis - so, we have
a continuous feedback cycle.  I.e. - I think we should have a very brief but
well-defined leadership structure for the group laid out somewhere.
 (Forgive me if this is already up on the Wiki somewhere).

Anyway, given the above, I obviously vote for the 3-person council - and
hope the short list of bylaws etc are coded up somewhere.

Cheers,

Jack

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> The idea of elected leadership in Ubuntu California has been floated
> by the team several times in the past, and this evening during our
> meeting the LoCo Council formally requested that we move forward with
> it.
>
> The final question the team needs to discuss is whether we should
> continue to have a single leader, or if we should have a team of three
> leaders sharing responsiblity equally.
>
> Can people weigh in with their thoughts?
>
> As far as the election itself goes, the LoCo Council has requested
> that we follow the following schedule so that team leaders will be
> elected within 3 weeks:
>
> Nominations will be collected for 2 weeks.
>
> In order to nominate yourself, create a wiki page (your
> wiki.ubuntu.com page will do fine! Just add an Ubuntu California
> Leadership section) with information about you, your qualifications
> (participate in events? other leadership experience?), why you wish to
> be part of the team leadership, and the county you live in. Then mail
> the LoCo Council (loco-coun...@lists.ubuntu.com) with your applcation.
>
> Voting will take place on the 3rd week and be handled by sending your
> vote to the LoCo Council (loco-coun...@lists.ubuntu.com). An
> announcement including all the applicants with links to their wiki
> pages will be made when voting starts with a reminder about how to
> vote.
>
> Anyone who is a member of the California LoCo can vote and can be
> nominated. If you intend to nominate yourself, be sure you have signed
> the Ubuntu Code of Conduct[0], if you need help doing this feel free
> to ask on list or join us in #ubuntu-california on irc.freenode.net
> and we'll help you out (I'd also be happy to help out if you want to
> send me a direct email).
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to discuss on list or email the
> LoCo Council.
>
> Note: Due to the issues which lead to the problems with the team, it
> was requested by the council that that Grant Bowman, Mark Terranova,
> Nathan Haines and Neal Busset be excluded from nominations this time.
>
> [0] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] introduction

[Jack Deslippe]

Im also really interested to participating in this event.  I can bring 3 USB
disks with netbook remix on them.  In my opinion the hardest part will be
advertising enough to actually get people to show up to have installs done.
We should think of appropriate channels.  Sorry I haven't made many IRC
meetings lately.  I have a conflict most Sunday evenings.

Jack

On Apr 20, 2010 9:29 AM, "Elizabeth Krumbach"  wrote:

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Grant Bowman  wrote:
> I've taken the liberty ...
Thanks Grant!


> I'm very excited about this event!
Me too :) Is there anything else we want to do aside from a plain
installfest? Other demos and things for folks who aren't quite ready
to install? And how has publicity of these events gone in the past?

In addition to CDs, I think it would be great to see if we can grab
some cheap USB sticks to toss Ubuntu on (and perhaps give away?) for
things like netbooks.


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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Brochure

[Jack Deslippe]

Hello All,

I have finally got around to updating the "I've Got Ubuntu - What do I do
now?" brochure based on new ubuntu artwork and everyone's comments.  Thanks
everyone who helped construct the brochure and correct errors (especially
Nathan for his detailed list of corrections).  I believe I included
everyone's suggestions, but probably left at least something out.  The
latest version can be found at the following location.

http://www.berkeleylug.com/Contributions/

Both the pdf and source file (in Scribus format) are included as well as all
the individual images.  People are free to take the brochure and modify it
as they see fit (including removing the BerkeleyLUG credit).

Let me know if you guys have any other comments or suggestions.  I will
submit it to SpreadUbuntu after getting a little more feedback.

Cheers,

-Jack
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] 10.04 CDs

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

As I haven't been able to make many of the IRC meetings as of late, I'd
actually appreciate being kept up to date on the Lucid CD situation on the
list.

For Karmic, I got 15 (or maybe 20?) disks from Robert which we mostly gave
out to people installing Ubuntu for the first time at the UC University
Village installfest.  I now have exactly 1 left.  Is there a page for me to
request another 15-20 for Lucid?  If not, can I reserve 15-20 or so by this
email?

I think the professional disk really creates a better first impression for
people installing Ubuntu for the first time or seriously considering an
install.

Cheers,

-Jack

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Grant Bowman  wrote:

> > From: Maria Randazzo 
> > Date: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:18 AM
> > Subject: 10.04 CDs
> > To: loco-conta...@lists.ubuntu.com
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've updated:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds
> [...]
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Grant Bowman  wrote:
> > Please keep the team informed (preferably on the mail list where more
> > people participate) when actions are taken.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Grant Bowman
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Troy Ready 
> wrote:
> > Was this directed at me? I'm not sure how to interpret vague,
> inconsiderate demands in the morning.
>
> Hello Troy,
>
> My apologies if you misinterpreted my message.  I am sorry we haven't
> had the chance to meet yet.  I look forward to correcting that.  With
> my message I was trying to:
>
> a) forward a relevant email from loco-contacts
>
> b) inform the California team that plans are taking place now and that
> a deadline is approaching for ordering 10.04 CDs that can be
> distributed among the California team
>
> c) ask that whoever is authorized and takes any action on behalf of
> the team that they inform the team when they do so.
>
> I will try to be more specific in the future but if you consider this
> inconsiderate I don't know exactly how to address that.  I was simply
> requesting information when none was being provided as in the past.
> Wouldn't you interpret silence as more inconsiderate than a request
> for information?
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Tri-Fold Source Files

[Jack Deslippe]

Thanks for comments everyone - I also got a lot of comments from the folks
at the jam.

I intended to update the screenshots and marketing to fit with lucid today (
as Nathan suggested ) but got side tracked by other goings-on.  I'll send a
new draft out in a couple days.  Ill remove snes9x as well and fix the
numerous typos.

Jack

On Mar 28, 2010 2:40 PM, "Aaditya Bhatia"  wrote:

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Nathan Haines  wrote:
> On 03/28/2010 01:20 PM,...
Clarifying what I said earlier, OSes obviously don't execute the files on
sight, but sometimes they do access portions of them in easily
exploitable ways, resulting in execution of an embedded exploit. For
example, downloading an infected executable file and navigating to it
in Windows Explorer used to be enough for the viruses to propagate on
XP. Vista addressed that by prompting the user before executing
something with admin privileges etc. I'm not aware of the details of
how viruses work, but there should be something on these lines that we
can publish without falsely implicating others. Anything like "You
don't need an virus-scanner in Linux because..." should work. I agree
that whatever we publish must be accurate.


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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Tri-Fold Source Files

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi Everyone,

I have put up the source files for our second brochure here:

http://civet.berkeley.edu/~jdeslip/Ubuntu/

Have a look and give me some comments.

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Global Jam Events

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi Cali-Folks,

I am going to try to be at the A'cuppa in the afternoon that day.  If
nothing formal is planned, I'll be working on a couple more patches for
Banshee I've been waiting for some free time to work out.

I'd also like to announce a Berkeley Global Jam event hosted by BerkeleyLUG
Sunday March 28 12pm-3pm+.  We will be reworking the Ubuntu tri-fold flyer
we made ( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/172219/UbuntuBrocure.pdf ) for the new
branding and Grant will be giving an ~30 minutes presentation on using
launchpad, filing bugs and getting involved in tiraging.  Anyone interested
in attending is welcome to come give a short presentation or suggest an
activity.

Cheers,

Jack

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Jono Bacon  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I would like to organize an Ubuntu Global Jam
> (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam) event at my local coffee shop
> in Rockridge during the day of Fri 26th March 2010. The location is:
>
> A'cuppa Tea,
> 3200 College Ave,
> (at Alcatraz Ave),
> Berkeley, CA 94705.
>
> The venue is nothing fancy, but the coffee is good (in my humble,
> British man with no experience of taste) opinion. I plan on being there
> between 10am and about 6pm: unfortunately I am away the rest of the
> weekend.
>
> I have added it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Events
>
> I would obviously love to invite everyone to join me here! Bring your
> friends!
>
> So, what other Ubuntu Global Jam events are you lovely people organizing?
>
> Jono
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Asking For Opinion: Leadership Appointment Process

[Jack Deslippe]

Just a quick response to Robert:

Jack:
> I agree with you that a set of bylaws would go a long way towards
> fixing the problems I outlined above. I agree with most of your
> proposal, though as I mentioned above, I have reservations about using
> Launchpad membership as a definition of who is eligible to vote. I
> also dislike the focus on peoples' regions, as it would tend to
> further the image that we have North California vs. South California
> battles.
>

Having written that document many weeks ago, I am not particularly attached
to any detail of it.  I do stand behind the section "elements required for a
sufficient structure", though (i.e. assurance of equality, clear pathway to
leadership, prescription for decision making).  And, I do believe "some"
level of autonomy for different regions of the state should be included in
the bylaws, though not necessarily in a council form.  It just makes sense
that events occurring in one region shouldn't be micro-managed by people all
over the state.  (Oh God, I sound like some sort of states-righter)  But, I
imagine some level of general permission should be obtained on a state level
and then the dirty details can be left to the people participating.  This
would greatly expedite our IRC meetings which can often be epic in length.

I agree with your reservations about using the launchpad enrollment as a
membership list; however, I see no better alternative.  In general, I think
it is reasonable to leave it up to individuals to decide for themselves if
they are opinionated/involved enough to vote.  I don't think all that many
people go around voting in groups they are now at least mildly invested in.

Cheers,

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Asking For Opinion: Leadership Appointment Process

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi all,

I generally agree with what DW said (though the characterization of the
SoCal/NoCal mentality may be a bit simplified...).  I have always been of
the opinion that the issues and personal problems in this group derive from
a lack of a well-defined and fair structure/by-laws.  A couple months back,
I documented what I thought the root problem was and created a proposed
structure to address them.  I did not submit it to the group in deference
for the ongoing process between Neal, Grant and Jono; though I thought this
process mostly hopelessly mired in fixing ill-effects instead of the root
cause of trouble.

However, I find Jono's email from yesterday to begin to address the root
cause (the lack of well-defined structure) of our problems.  I think his
proposed leadership model would ensure equality in the group (everyone gets
to vote) and define a clear path towards leadership for those wishing to
bring change to the group.  The model, coupled with a some simple by-laws
defining membership, the role of the leader and how decisions are made
locally and statewide would in my opinion go a long way towards solving the
structural and personal problems in the group.

Here is the link to my document mentioned above for the record:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AVvuU9dbI-YnZGhtOWh6cHZfNDNmNzRoaDNkdw&hl=en
-  I hope the forward illustrates why the problems in the group derive
from
the lack of structure.  I am by no means attached to the particular details
of the proposal in this document.  It is simply an example.  I think
supplementing Jono's proposed leadership structure with some sort of by-laws
would certainly be sufficient - without the need for council member from
each area.

If it is not clear, this email and the google-document represent my opinions
only and not those of other NoCal members.

-Jack

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:24 AM, David Wondelry ~DarkwingDuck~ <
ubu...@darkwingduck.org> wrote:

> On 03/09/2010 07:58 AM, David Wondelry ~DarkwingDuck~ wrote:
> > On 03/09/2010 12:44 AM, Jono Bacon wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I just want to clarify my original question as there was a little
> >> confusion reported to me earlier: I am asking whether you feel that the
> >> leadership process is required at all. If you feel the team would
> >> benefit from having that process in place, vote with +1, if you feel
> >> that the team is running just fine without it, vote -1.
> >>
> >> Sorry for any confusion. Thanks, all!
> >>
> >>  Jono
> >>
> >
> > -1
> >
> > For my reasons feel free to email me.
> >
> > DW
> >
>
> There have been a lot of questions about my vote. I figured that it
> would be more productive to reply with my reasons here.
>
> The issues in the group stem from a leadership style that Neal (Flannel)
> has. The issues have brought up a lot of controversy with the northern
> group. Grant (Grantbow) is one of the people that have brought the
> issues to light. It's a philosophy issue between how those in NorCal
> think and deal with problems vice those in SoCal.
>
> SoCal thinking has a way of saying "Problems will take care of
> themselves." The NorCal thinking is "Deal with the problem ASAP, fix it
> and move on." This is where you can break down the issue. My problem is
> that when/if a change of power takes place the issue of philosophy will
> not change. If someone from NorCal takes over then the issue still
> remains as those from SoCal will stir that we are spending too much time
> focused on the problems and not enough on what a LoCo should do.
>
> This is why I feel this course of action is like a very small band-aid
> to a larger problem. What should be done is a set of bylaws on how to
> deal with issues, leadership and how to conduct business. Changing
> leaders will not solve this issue.
>
> DW
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Pressed Canonical CD distribution

[Jack Deslippe]

Robert,

I'd like 25-50 discs to distribute to colleagues and family who have a real
desire in switching to Linux as well as a supply to give away whenever a
professional looking disc would make an impact.

-Jack

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Darkwing Duck wrote:

> Can I also put in a request for kubuntu CDs for camp-KDE in jan? Ill be
> able to hand out a bunch.
>
> DW
> -Original Message-
> From: Grant Bowman 
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:24:11
> To: Ubuntu US California
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Pressed Canonical CD distribution
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Robert Wall
>  wrote:
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > We recently received a shipment of professionally-pressed Ubuntu
> > Karmic CDs from Canonical and have to figure out what to do with them.
> > We have the following quantities of CDs to work with:
> >
> >  * Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop (32-bit): 250
> >  * Kubuntu 9.10 Desktop (32-bit): 75
> >  * Ubuntu 9.10 Server (64-bit): 75
> >
> > We set aside 100 Ubuntu Desktop CDs (and 25 each of Kubuntu and
> > Server) for SCaLE in February, which leaves 150 Desktop CDs (and 50
> > each of Kubuntu and Server) for us to work with. After SCaLE, we'll
> > take another look at our CD situation and redistribute accordingly.
> >
> > To make distribution easier, Neal and I have split the CDs, so we
> > should be able to get them to anyone in the state reasonably easily.
> >
> > We have about 5 months left to distribute these CDs before 10.04 comes
> > out, so I'd like to get a start on distributing them. Reply to this
> > on-list if you think you'll need more than a few at a time for
> > something; if not, contact Neal or me directly so we can arrange to
> > get some to you.
> >
> > ~ Robert
>
> Neal, can you please send requests asking for CDs for both the SCaLE
> (at least 100) and CLS West (100) events in the next two weeks?  This
> way existing reserves can be used for other purposes.  I've given away
> about 50 burned copies already and continue to give away burned
> copies.  I understand the reasoning for rationing, but I do not
> understand the reasoning behind not even asking for CDs for legitimate
> events.
>
> Robert, any help you can provide in the way of discs would be most
> appreciated unless you have other plans for them already.  I hope you
> are able to fulfill Aaditya's request.  Every time I go to a user
> group I give away three or more depending on the subjective estimate
> that I always make about them getting used.  I am working with the
> Berkeley LUG on several upcoming events and projects, SFSU on a series
> of 12 seminars on open source and visit many of the groups listed on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts/Groups
> on an ongoing basis.  I have not tallied up a total request, I simply
> burn as many as I can to keep up with demand.  This takes significant
> time, effort and money but has in my subjective view been very
> successfully received.  As I said, I'm sure I will give away at least
> 250 before the Lucid release with or without pressed copies.
>
> Thank you,
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Placing Team Karmic CD Order

[Jack Deslippe]

I'd also like some professional looking CDs to give out.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Darkwing Duck wrote:

> Ill take a bunch to hand out down here.
>
> DW
> --Original Message--
> From: Neal Bussett
> Sender: ubuntu-us-ca-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
> To: Ubuntu US California
> ReplyTo: Ubuntu US California
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Placing Team Karmic CD Order
> Sent: Oct 22, 2009 10:41
>
> Grant Bowman wrote:
> > According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds we have two more
> > days to place a team order for Karmic CDs in order to avoid
> > unnecessary delays.  Who will be placing this order?
>
> Do we want to order a CD pack for release?  Will we use it?  If we'll
> use it we can order it, but I don't want to order a pack at release just
> because we can.
>
> We always have the option of ordering a pack later, they only take two
> weeks to get here.
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] the shirts

[Jack Deslippe]

Please do not send any more emails on this subject to the list.  I think it
is clear that everyone agrees that getting the shirt in as many shapes and
sizes as is cost effective is best; so people (men and women) can make up
their own mind about what they like best.  If I have another "you have mail"
sound and it is an email of people quibbling about semantics, I am going to
go crazy.
-Jack

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Larry Cafiero wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Nathan Haines wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 10:15 -0700, Larry Cafiero wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Good. We all should, and hopefully do. However, you don't seem to be
>> > bothered by making a statement implying dividing shirts into those
>> > with "ponies" (subtext: a "girl" motif) and those that don't.
>>
>> I don't think calling out what was a disappointingly sexist remark
>> (although probably in an attempt to be politically correct, to give the
>> benefit of the doubt) is sexist.
>>
>
> Good. I'm glad you don't mind that I called you out for making one, despite
> being way off base about why I did it. Hint: It wasn't to be politically
> correct, and let me suggest that assuming someone says something just to be
> "PC" is always a weak argument. The "ponies" statement was sexist. I
> appreciate the fact that you recognize this.
>
>
>> > Incidentally, I'm just wondering: In light of this and Mark
>> > Shuttleworth's arguable gaffes at LinuxCon, is it community policy to
>> > dig yourself in deeper after you say something ridiculous, or is the
>> > phrase, "Gee, I'm sorry. I seem to have misspoken" forbidden from the
>> > community's lexicon?
>>
>> I did not misspeak when I said that the premise that a simple shirt with
>> a logo on both sides needed to be planned specially with women in mind
>> because they had some sort of alien fashion sensibility was completely
>> non sequitur with the idea that they are people too, which was spoken in
>> the same breath by the person who suggested it.
>
>
> That would be nice, Nathan, except you seem to be falling into your typical
> cherry-picking of statements irrelevant to the main argument that, in
> several cases over the past several months, has bogged down the list.
>
> Suffice to say, the logo was not the issue when the original poster made
> his comment about separate shirts for men and women -- that was my
> understanding, although the original poster is free to jump in here and
> correct me. Also, with a limited knowledge of fashion, my understanding is
> that the differences in men's and women's t-shirts revolve around the cut of
> the collar, for example (v-neck as opposed to crew neck), or a tapering in
> the waist -- though anyone with more fashion knowledge than me is free to
> jump in here as well.
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] LoCo Contact Forwards

[Jack Deslippe]

Robert et. al.,

I hope you do read this email... While I think you are right that a lot of
what has been sent back and forth on the mailing list (and despite your best
efforts apparently in multiple private conversations between the three
'decision makers' on this issue as well as among yourself, Grant and Neal)
is no more than drama about particular instances.

However, the underlying push towards a more structured group with a
guarantee of equality for all members (founder included) is absolutely not
drama. It is something that needs to be worked out for many people to feel
comfortable contributing to the group without hesitation and to provide
continuity and security for the organization. I find it incredibly difficult
to get excited about participating further in a group where I am unsure who,
at the end of the day, has control over my contributions and one in which I
have no assurance that I am an equal member (or could ever grow to be and
equal member) in the organisation, in the sense of making decisions,
resolving conflicts and choosing leadership directions. We are already a
large group, representing a State bigger than many countries, and it is time
we got a structure fit for managing that type of membership and area. I
absolutely think that this is the root cause of the groups problems, and not
a symptom. Until we come up with some sort of constitution that gives people
the assurance of a fair, equal and democratic (or republican) treatment and
consideration of their contributions, the group is just going to get
sicklier.

Some may see this email as simply adding to the “drama,” since I am
undoubtedly a good personal friend of Grant, as almost everybody who has
worked with him is. I am, however, sure that everyone who knows and works
with Neal can insure me (who still has not had the pleasure of meeting Neal
in person) that he is likewise easy to get along with and quite a swell
dude.  He is also in no small way deserving of the current leadership role
he maintains and has, in general, done a kick ass job guiding the group.
But for the health and growth of the group, I think it is important to
define a more general structure at this point.  The issue between Grant and
Neal is, thus, not about who is a better person or who is right or wrong.
What I see is a case of “two members arguing.”  Which is more or less common
and healthy in any group.  The problem I see is that one of those two people
apparently holds the power in the group – enough to censor the others'
messages to the list and contributions to the wiki. This seems unfair,
undemocratic and not indicative of a robust and well thought-out structure
for the LoCo. And, it makes me very uncomfortable. In my opinion, Robert,
the “drama” is the particular argument at hand, but the creation of a group
structure guaranteeing fairness and equality - that's not drama; thats
something that needs to get done. And, undoubtedly, most of the decisions
individuals complain about now will not be overturned, but at least those
individuals will know that the decisions were based on a fair examination of
their contributions by equals.

-Jack

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Robert Wall  wrote:

> I'm replying to the parts of this directed at me.
>
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:01 -0700, Grant Bowman wrote:
> > Robert, I talk with you approximately every other week in person for
> > several hours at www.dvlug.org and you have not to my recollection
> > brought this up, and certainly not "recently."  I'm baffled at what
> > Neal represents is your current stance on this issue.
>
> The last time you forwarded something here was Wednesday, which I note
> is after the last time I saw you in person. I have not had any chance to
> discuss anything with you in real time since then. As far as your
> bafflement goes, 1) Neal did not misrepresent my stance, 2) my reply to
> your private email to me yesterday makes that abundantly clear:
>
> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 01:55 -0700, Robert Wall wrote:
> > Neal asked us what we thought about your forwarded emails. We agreed
> > that it isn't really appropriate for you to forward emails directly
> > from loco-contacts, as I believe Neal has explained to you already.
> > Since contacting you about it privately and asking you to stop did not
> > yield a useful response from you, and you in fact continued, we agreed
> > that moderation is necessary until you discuss it further.
>
> If you didn't understand part of it, I would have expected your next
> private emails to me to ask me a question about it, but they didn't.
>
> If I had a problem with Neal's representation of my opinion, I would
> obviously have posted to the list about it. I'm not in the habit of
> sending "Me too" emails, because I see them as a waste of everyone's
> time.
>
> > The time spent on this new issue has also been significant.
>
> Yes, it has, and I have better things to do than engage in this sort of
> politics. Good luck to whichever one of y'all next tries

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] LoCo Contact Forwards

[Jack Deslippe]

Neal,

This is getting out of hand.

On Oct 1, 2009 12:21 AM, "Neal Bussett"  wrote:

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:29:58PM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > a) Who are
the list moderators at th...
Nathan, Robert, and myself.

> b) How was this decision arrived at?
We discussed it, and determined it was an appropriate course of action
considering I attempted to discuss it with you the other day, and I was
simply stonewalled.

> c) Who will determine what "resolved" will be measured by?
At this point, I'd be happy with you actually having a reasonable
conversation on the matter.

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Party in San Francisco! Sat, Sept 26th at 8:00pm

[Jack Deslippe]

What time you headed there?

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Grant Bowman  wrote:

> Elizabeth Krumbach will be visiting from Pennsylvania, so let's have a
> no-host party!  I would like to invite as many Ubuntu community folks
> and Canonical staffers as possible, so spread the word.  The Thirsty
> Bear Brewing Company is located at:
>
> 661 Howard St
> San Francisco, CA 94105-3915
> (415) 974-0905
> near the Montgomery BART station
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Team organization and dispute resolution

[Jack Deslippe]

I would find such a structure perfectly reasonable.  I think, as Robert
said, the real problem is in a lack of defined structure for making
decisions in the group.  (though I think this root cause can also implies a
lack of structure in how leadership (decision makes) are chosen).  I think
that basically having any well defined structure/constitution at all is
better than nothing, and it will become more important as the group grows in
the future and people enter and leave.  I do not think we need to look
outside the group to resolve our problems, that sounds like two little kids
appealing to their parents to take their side.  If we can't resolve our own
problems, we are pretty pathetic group indeed.  :/

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Abhejit Rajagopal wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I've been following (kind of) the discussions via the mailing list, though
> not really involved. I'm not really sure where I stand on the particular
> issue, but I’m proposing a process of resolving issues.
>
>  Rather than electing a “council,” we should focus on “group votes.” I
> agree that Neal, Nathan, Robert, Grant, and Joe have all demonstrated
> themselves as quality leaders, but electing a council in my opinion will
> create a different atmosphere in the group; one in which members, especially
> newcomers, may feel the need to seek the approval of the “council.” Instead
> of dealing with issues with a council, we should appoint a “secretary” of
> sorts, an active member that attends IRC’s. Serving one month terms, it’s
> the secretary’s job to detail the results of the IRC meeting (propositions:
> A, B, C…). The secretary, at the end of each IRC would confirm the “minutes”
> and subsequently publish them in the mailing list, or the website. Minutes
> would detail “New Issues,” “Old Issues,” and “Propositions.” After reading
> the minutes, a member could vote on propositions using a polling applet on
> the website. Both IRC and the mailing list can be used as media for
> discussion of issues.
>
> The method may seem elementary, but I feel group voting is the best way to
> not delegate too much power to any one member. Certainly, most of the
> members present will respect the opinions of those who have contributed in
> the past; but this method ensures that no one person’s voice is muffled.
>
>
> With good spirits,
> Abhejit Rajagopal
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Jack Deslippe  wrote:
>
>> Hey Robert et. al.
>>
>> Very well said.  Talking behind peoples' back, letting personal feelings
>> dominate arguments seems to be a real problem on both sides.  I find Ubuntu
>> LoCo meetings etc. very tiring.
>>
>> I would like to clearly state my own opinion of things here for the
>> record.  Since I am new to the group I think I will afterwards just spend
>> time watching how things evolve for a bit and then judge for myself how I
>> can best add to the group and larger Ubuntu community.
>>
>> What I hope to get out of the LoCo is simply put - I wan to be a part of
>> the Ubuntu community.  I want to help work on Ubuntu, spread Ubuntu and just
>> have a lot fun with the peeps in the LoCo. I.e. the same reason I
>> participate in open source at all.  I.e. I am interested in joining a
>> community.  I do all this already by contributing patches participating in
>> LUGs etc., and the LoCo presents just another great opportunity to do this.
>> What I am not really interested in is in joining Grant's group or Neal's
>> group or anyone's group where my efforts are ultimately judged by any
>> individual.  I don't really think that we have this problem now in the
>> group.  However, due to some of the complaints that have been made, mainly
>> from Grant towards Neal, it seems that it would make sense to replace the
>> current model (leader resolves disputes) with something more appropriate for
>> a growing/evolving group in a huge state.  I.e. define a short constitution
>> that describes who makes decisions, how they are made and how leadership is
>> transferred from person to person or year to year.
>>
>> Personally, I am in favor of a "council" that would be informally elected
>> each year (e.g. in an IRC meeting) representing different regions of the
>> state and that would have oversite of the events in those regions.  Local
>> decisions would be made by the local leadership (i.e. the ones that know the
>> most of the area and people/groups in the area) and global decisions like
>> the wiki would be made by the council in general.
>>
>> From my understanding of matters, this is not very far from what exists
>> already.  I would imagine that the council would more o

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Team organization and dispute resolution

[Jack Deslippe]

Hey Robert et. al.

Very well said.  Talking behind peoples' back, letting personal feelings
dominate arguments seems to be a real problem on both sides.  I find Ubuntu
LoCo meetings etc. very tiring.

I would like to clearly state my own opinion of things here for the record.
Since I am new to the group I think I will afterwards just spend time
watching how things evolve for a bit and then judge for myself how I can
best add to the group and larger Ubuntu community.

What I hope to get out of the LoCo is simply put - I wan to be a part of the
Ubuntu community.  I want to help work on Ubuntu, spread Ubuntu and just
have a lot fun with the peeps in the LoCo. I.e. the same reason I
participate in open source at all.  I.e. I am interested in joining a
community.  I do all this already by contributing patches participating in
LUGs etc., and the LoCo presents just another great opportunity to do this.
What I am not really interested in is in joining Grant's group or Neal's
group or anyone's group where my efforts are ultimately judged by any
individual.  I don't really think that we have this problem now in the
group.  However, due to some of the complaints that have been made, mainly
from Grant towards Neal, it seems that it would make sense to replace the
current model (leader resolves disputes) with something more appropriate for
a growing/evolving group in a huge state.  I.e. define a short constitution
that describes who makes decisions, how they are made and how leadership is
transferred from person to person or year to year.

Personally, I am in favor of a "council" that would be informally elected
each year (e.g. in an IRC meeting) representing different regions of the
state and that would have oversite of the events in those regions.  Local
decisions would be made by the local leadership (i.e. the ones that know the
most of the area and people/groups in the area) and global decisions like
the wiki would be made by the council in general.

>From my understanding of matters, this is not very far from what exists
already.  I would imagine that the council would more or less end up
consisting of Neal, Nathan, Robert, Grant, Joe.  Thus no past decisions are
going to be overturned - and the people who have done such an amazing job
in the past making the LoCo what is today are the ones who are still the
leaders.  But, I think making the structure formal would prevent people from
taking things personally, or getting their feelings hurt.  It would also
provide a clear path for the future - i.e. the group is the structure of the
group and not any particular person/people.  That seems like a strong
foundation and would make me feel a lot more secure in making larger
contributions.

Anyway, thank you Robert for your thoughtful and heartfelt email.  I think
it is important that the discussion remain public and free of hurtful gossip
etc.  It is also important to recognize the amazing contributions that both
Neal and Grant have provided for the LoCo and that the current leadership
hierarchy is not at all unearned or unappreciated.

-Jack

For

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Robert Wall  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> As many of you know, for a long while now there's been drama in this
> group between Grant (and others) on one side, and Neal (and others) on
> the other. It's popped up on the mailing list, it's come up repeatedly
> in PM on IRC, and in its current incarnation, it's happening in
> private emails between LoCo members.
>
> In the run up to LoCo approval, and I guess also prompted by Eric's
> email (which to my knowledge was entirely unrelated, but it seems some
> people have been prompted by it), this drama has refocused and now I
> find myself reading emails in my inbox about restructuring the team.
> Some people want elected councils, other people want elected leaders,
> and everyone's generally having fun criticizing our current structure
> and proposing alternatives.
>
> I have a problem with this private discussion, and I would like it to
> stop. The purpose of this email is to explain why I think it needs to
> stop, summarize some of the raised issues thusfar and then what I see
> as the problem with this team, and get input from both the people
> involved and those who have been fortunate enough to not have to deal
> with this headache thusfar.
>
> == Why private discussion needs to stop ==
>
> First off, I personally believe that every single person involved in
> all this, on both sides, including Grant, Neal, and myself, 100% want
> this LoCo to succeed. I believe that we all have this LoCo's best
> interests as a motivator, and that nobody is "trolling" or being
> "poisonous" because nobody here intends to damage this team.
>
> However, despite this intent, the end result of this drama and private
> discussions is a fostering of bad will, and a sapping of energy that
> should be directed productively. I know for a fact that people have
> left the mailing list because of the drama that has seeped 

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Help with Solano Stroll wiki page

[Jack Deslippe]

I just updated it a bit more.  Don't have the time today to do much more
though.

-Jack

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Robert Wall  wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 15:49 -0700, Grant Bowman wrote:
> > I created
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/SolanoStroll2009
> > and added it to the projects page.  I will edit it more this evening.
> > If anyone has extra time and can help flesh it out, I would owe you
> > one.
>
> There are a few pictures up at
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gidgetkitchen/ that might be nice to link.
>
> Looks like y'all did a great job out there. I'm sad I couldn't make it!
>
> ~ Robert
> ( who is wondering whether the list's web archive is working properly
> yet )
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Testimonials for Grantbow

[Jack Deslippe]

Done :)

Grant Bowman wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Would those that feel inclined please provide testimonials for me on
> my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grantbow in preparation for the
> meeting Wed, Sept 9th at 3 PM Pacific Time as I go before the Americas
> membership board
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas for
> approval.  Both members and non-members can provide testimonials.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Grant
>
>
> P.S. Please don't forget the team IRC meeting this Sunday, Sept 6th at
> 7 PM Pacific Time.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/09September06 where we
> will discuss the team's approval status before the LoCo Council
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda Sept 15th at Noon Pacific
> Time.
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Linux Banner and Brochure

[Jack Deslippe]

BerkeleyLUG is preparing for a Linux/OSS booth at the September 13th Solano
Stroll.  As part of our preparations, we have designed a 100"x32" Banner
that we plan to print in vinyl and a brochure we additionally plan to order
color prints of (it also looks decent in black and white).  As this is a
non-trivial investment of time/resources, we are hoping that these items
will be useful for other groups at other events in the future (i.e. we hope
the banner can be sent from group to group and used at various places).
Thus, I'd like to make other local groups aware of the banner, share the
PDF/Source files and get some feedback.  We plan to send these off to be
printed in the next day or so; so, we are not looking for major design
changes at this point, but corrections/suggestions to the content etc...

The files are located at:

http://www.berkeleylug.com/Contributions/

Note that the brochure PDF is quite large (40MB) due to the uncompressed
print quality images contained in the pdf.  Note, these files are also
advertised on our projects page: http://www.berkeleylug.com/?page_id=2

I apologize if this is sent inappropriately to any lists - and ask that
people forward it to other lists they think would be interested.

Cheers,

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Linux Picnic

[Jack Deslippe]

As discussed at the meeting last night, several members of the Ubuntu
LoCo team are headed the the Linux Picnic next week (mainly myself,
Grant and Vivek).  The event website,
http://www.linuxpicnic.org/twiki/bin/view/Picnix18/, suggests groups
bring banners/projects in order to represent their team/mission.  We are
planning to the bring the banner to set up an "Ubuntu Corner" to shake
hands / socialize etc (given the laid back nature of the event - nothing
like Oscon is necessary) if there are indeed many groups represented
there.  If anyone else is interested in coming to event, let me know. 

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Global Jam [ & Karmic Release Parties ]

[Jack Deslippe]

Ya, I might be interested in putting together a Jam in Berkeley.  Or, 
perhaps we can get a few LUGs together for the Walnut Creek Jam.  I 
could probably get us some space at UC if we think that is the best 
place.  Anyway, I'll bring it up at our next BerkeleyLUG meeting to see 
who is interested.

-Jack



Grant Bowman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Nathan Haines wrote:
>   
>> ...
>> But again, ...
>> 
>
> But again, if others would like to step forward and organize any event
> on these dates (maybe some folks in Berkeley) within the general
> guidelines they should speak up.
>
> I will have some kind of event in Walnut Creek, perhaps not similar to
> what you do for your event.  I'll see what kind of facilities we
> collectively decide to use first.
>
> Grant Bowman
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Got Banner

[Jack Deslippe]

I have a picture of the banner for the curious:

http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner.jpg

Cheers,

-Jack

Grant Bowman wrote:
> Wonderful!  I'll be there.
>
> Grant Bowman
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Joe Smith wrote:
>   
>> Epic! Thanks Jack :)
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jack Deslippe  wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it looks good and colors pretty much identical to my screen.  I
>>> will take a pic when get home.
>>>
>>> Grant, if you are coming to BerkeleyLUG tomorrow, I'd like to pass it off
>>> to you in case I have flight trouble or something coming back from Florida.
>>>   
>
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Got Banner

[Jack Deslippe]

I think it looks good and colors pretty much identical to my screen.  I will
take a pic when get home.

Grant, if you are coming to BerkeleyLUG tomorrow, I'd like to pass it off to
you in case I have flight trouble or something coming back from Florida.

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] [Fwd: Re: Second Banner Attempt]

[Jack Deslippe]

Hey Mark,

This svg looks off to me when I try to open it in various programs.  The 
banner has been narrowed and there is a big black box at the bottom 
(which I guess was your added text).

-Jack

Mark Garrow wrote:
> This email is probably also stuck awaiting a moderator's approval as I 
> sent it originally with the wrong email address. :(
>
> I added one line at the bottom. 
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 11:28 -0700, Jack Deslippe wrote:
>> After a brief discussion with Neal, here is a new attempt a banner: 
>> http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner2.pdf
>>
>> The differences are that the big logo is now the Ubuntu one 
>> (cali-loco logo is smaller and next to the team name).  I also 
>> dropped a shadow on ubuntu logo. 
>>
>> There is an example banner here: 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Banners  -  I personally find 
>> this too cluttered (with the edubuntu etc. logos) and the logo is 
>> squeeshed.  I think the above banner is a bit of an improvement. 
>>
>> Pleas weigh in with your opinions, soon. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jack
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Second Banner Attempt

[Jack Deslippe]

Ok.  I have posted several more versions of Banner2 with various colored
backgrounds at

http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox  -  please have a look.

In my opinion, the two brown versions and the grey one are the nicest.

-Jack

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Jack Deslippe  wrote:

> Ya, it may be a little off.  It is supposed to be a transparent orange.
> I will try creating some images with various background colors to see
> what people think.
>
> -Jack
>
> Joe Smith wrote:
> > Jack,
> >
> > I really like this banner, it's clean and beautiful. I'm not too sure
> > about the background color though, it seems a bit .. peachy?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jack Deslippe  > <mailto:jdes...@berkeley.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > After a brief discussion with Neal, here is a new attempt a
> > banner: http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner2.pdf
> >
> > The differences are that the big logo is now the Ubuntu one
> > (cali-loco logo is smaller and next to the team name).  I also
> > dropped a shadow on ubuntu logo.
> >
> > There is an example banner here:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Banners  -  I personally find
> > this too cluttered (with the edubuntu etc. logos) and the logo is
> > squeeshed.  I think the above banner is a bit of an improvement.
> >
> > Pleas weigh in with your opinions, soon.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jack
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Second Banner Attempt

[Jack Deslippe]

Ya, it may be a little off.  It is supposed to be a transparent orange. 
I will try creating some images with various background colors to see
what people think.

-Jack

Joe Smith wrote:
> Jack,
>
> I really like this banner, it's clean and beautiful. I'm not too sure
> about the background color though, it seems a bit .. peachy?
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jack Deslippe  <mailto:jdes...@berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>
> After a brief discussion with Neal, here is a new attempt a
> banner: http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner2.pdf
>
> The differences are that the big logo is now the Ubuntu one
> (cali-loco logo is smaller and next to the team name).  I also
> dropped a shadow on ubuntu logo. 
>
> There is an example banner here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Banners  -  I personally find
> this too cluttered (with the edubuntu etc. logos) and the logo is
> squeeshed.  I think the above banner is a bit of an improvement. 
>
> Pleas weigh in with your opinions, soon. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jack
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Second Banner Attempt

[Jack Deslippe]

After a brief discussion with Neal, here is a new attempt a banner:
http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner2.pdf

The differences are that the big logo is now the Ubuntu one (cali-loco logo
is smaller and next to the team name).  I also dropped a shadow on ubuntu
logo.

There is an example banner here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Banners  -  I personally find this too
cluttered (with the edubuntu etc. logos) and the logo is squeeshed.  I think
the above banner is a bit of an improvement.

Pleas weigh in with your opinions, soon.

Cheers,

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Banner for OSCON

[Jack Deslippe]

Hello All,

Since I am going to be out of town All next week until Tuesday the 21st,
I would like to get the banner printed this week (ideally maybe on
Friday).  So, if we could work out the details in the next few days,
that would be great.  As I mentioned last week, the only real constraint
on the size is the smallest dimension can be at most 60".  It is still
not free to print in my department (though a lot cheaper than normal);
so, it is important to get it right the first time.  I can/will pick up
the costs for a banner up to about ~ 20 Ft^2.  We can do paper or vinyl
(and the cost is roughly the same).  So we should pick what we think is
best.

Here is my first attempt at a simple banner.  It is, in fact, really
simple - it is easy to drop shadows / add more images etc.  But, I
thought I would show the list this file so we can discuss it first.

It is 100" x 32" and saved in PDF:
http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner.pdf

or

XCF:
http://www.jdeslippe.com/dropbox/Banner.xcf

Hope to get some feedback soon,

-Jack

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Banner Dimensions

[Jack Deslippe]

Hello All,

I had a chance to check out the possible banner dimensions for 
printing.  It seems like the only constraint is that smaller dimension 
can be at most 60 in (5 feet) and it has to be PDF format.  I would 
recommend that we shoot for something on the order of 24" x 80" (w x h).

Jack

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] LUGs at OSCON (Was re: User Group Link)

[Jack Deslippe]

Bill Kendrick wrote:
>
> "Tent" being ...?
>
> To quickly summarize:  "Multi-LUG booth" is on a waiting list for
> an .ORG Pavillion spot at OSCON, since that pavillion is currently full.
>
>   

Ooops.  In my head, the word pavilion became tent ;)  My question was
whether you had heard anything regarding the spot on the waiting list. 
I guess the answer is no :(

-Jack

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] User Group Link

[Jack Deslippe]

Did the LUGs definitely not get a booth in the other tent??

Bill Kendrick wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 07:09:36PM -0700, Nathan Haines wrote:
>   
>> I am, however, very happy and proud that we have a couple Bay Area LUGs 
>> who are providing fliers for our OSCON booth, and I'm sorry that our 
>> booth wasn't big enough to accommodate them.  I'm hoping we can do more 
>> promotion in the future, but I think the best chance we have to promote 
>> LUGs is through conventions and hopefully on the podcast.
>> 
>
> That reminds me.  I need to ping everyone who offered to volunteer,
> and let them know it looks like person-power is not needed.  Then figure
> out what to put on a flyer, how to produce copies, and how to get it
> to the Ubuntu Calif LoCo folks (you).
>
> (Just pointing out that nothing has really happened since we last spoke. :) )
>
> -bill!
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] User Group Link

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

I am rather new to Ubuntu-US-CA (and to running a LUG), but I thought 
I'd give my perspective on this issue.  There has been a lot said so 
far; so, I won't try to comment on what everyone else has said.

First, I have to say that I find the whole discussion a little absurd.  
It seems that it is pretty poor management practice (even if the 
"manager" is the whole group itself) to have removed the link and 
created a fuss.  In any business or organization, I think you will find 
that you get the best results when you give your enthusiastic 
employees/volunteers space to be creative and to take some initiative.  
If we as group  (or any of us in particular) try to micro-manage 
individual efforts, particularly when that individual is doing a good 
job spreading the word about Ubuntu and the LoCo, we will find that 
hardly anyone will be willing to put forth an effort, and not much will 
get done.  In my opinion, Grant has been doing a great job, is 
enthusiastic, and deserves to have is work stand without every trivial 
change (which I think adding link to the page design is) being 
questioned.  I personally think this whole discussion has done nothing 
but hold back further efforts and participation. 

Secondly, even if we are forgetting my above sentiments, I think the 
link on the menu (and hence every page) is perfectly reasonable.  I also 
think a link to the podcast would be good as well.  The site, as is, is 
a bit difficult navigate and links to important efforts should be 
included.  As a new LUG maintainer, I think any advertisement from the 
Ubuntu LoCo page would be quite helpful, and I am not at all worried 
about people thinking my group is just an Ubuntu group - it is clear 
from our own site and the name LUG, that we are not.  I can't imagine an 
LUG being offended by the Ubuntu LoCo advertising their group.  But, 
hey, I certainly don't represent everyone.  Secondly, I, as an Ubuntu 
user, would look for that type of information on my LoCo page (i.e. 
where can I get help locally).  So, a prominent link clearly helps such 
a user coming to the site. 

Anyway, those are my thoughts.  Feel free to ignore them if you guys 
feel (quite rightly) that I have yet to earn my Ubuntu LoCo stripes.

-Jack


Robert Wall wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 21:11 -0700, Paul Reiber wrote: 
>   
>> I could have mis-read this, but I believe we're discussing the
>> existence of ONE SINGLE LINK in the "menu" portion of the wiki which
>> gets transcluded onto many other pages.
>> 
>
> That's exactly correct. Those "many other pages" are all of the active
> pages on the CaliforniaTeam wiki, including the homepage. Thus, anything
> linked on there is rather prominent.
>
>   
>> From a layout perspective, there's no problem adding another link (or
>> 2) in that section; it currently has only 3 lines while one neighbor
>> has four and another has five.
>>
>> I look at the current "Get Involved" choices - "Projects" and "IRC
>> Meetings" and find that lacking.
>> 
>
> I agree that the layout could do with changing, but I disagree that
> arbitrarily adding one of our several projects to that section is the
> way to do that. I'd be more inclined to change the "Get Involved"
> section to a "Projects" section, and there link all of the active
> projects that are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects .
> The "IRC Meetings" link is a duplicate anyway, so we wouldn't lose
> anything.
>
> In other words, the whole section would be changed to look something
> like this:
> '''[[CaliforniaTeam/Projects|Current Projects]]'''
> [[CaliforniaTeam/Projects/OSCON2009|OSCON 2009]]
> [[CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts|Contacting User Groups]]
> [[CaliforniaTeam/Projects/CDSleeves|Ubuntu CD Sleeves]]
>
> ... and we'd add the Podcast when it gets on its feet, and other
> projects as we start them. We don't generally have more than three or
> four things going at once anyway.
>
> I note here the implied view that UserGroupContacts is a project with
> the aim of contacting user groups to see how we can help them, whose
> page contains information that helps volunteers for that project
> organize and document who we've contacted. That implies that the
> information should not be re-purposed as a page for the general public
> about LUGs in California, because there are more appropriate places
> online for that, and because that's outside the mission of the wiki.
>
> Considering that I don't think anyone's brought this option up before
> (and that I didn't think it through much because I'm tired), I'd be
> interested in comments about it :)
>
> ~ Robert
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] OSCON Booth Planning

[Jack Deslippe]

Here is the link to the youtube video of the demo I have so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBlZjY2uxeU

-Jack

Jack Deslippe wrote:
> Darn, I didn't see this email until I sent mind.  Hope you don't mind.  
> In order to stay organized, I will paste the text of my other email here 
> so people can respond to this thread.
>
> Here is a quick summary of what I would personally like to contribute to 
> the OSCON table and my opinions on the questions about the booth that 
> are still under discussion.
>
> 
> I would like contribute the following:
>
> A video showing off the ubuntu desktop (compiz / look-feel / etc) and 
> key apps that can be run on the ubuntu desktop (OO.org, Firefox/Hulu, 
> Wine, Banshee etc).  I will upload the video to youtube tomorrow; so, 
> people can comment on it and we can improve it.  I can provide a 22 inch 
> lcd screen (at least) to show this on if it is accepted.
>
> I will print a large reusable banner.  I would like to discussion the 
> dimensions of this and where to get high resolution stock ubuntu images.
>
> I will contribute up to $60 for power as it is obviously necessary for 
> my video demo idea.
>
> ---
> About the major questions of interest:
>
> Should we have network: -1  (I don't think it is worth $400 and 
> hopefully enough smart phones are present)
>
> Should we have power: +1 (I think this is absolutely necessary to have a 
> professional looking booth)
>
> Should the space be split 50/50: +0  If it is possible to do it so that 
> it does not misrepresent Ubuntu as being a local group or a casual 
> organization than I am for it.  If it takes away from the professional 
> aspect of the booth, I am against it.  Which ever way it is decided, I 
> pledge my time both days to help make the Ubuntu and LUG booths be a 
> success.
>
> Should LUGs be promoted: +1 At the very least Ubuntu's booth should hand 
> out flyers and perhaps present a poster showing locations of places 
> where you can get help in the California area (i.e. LUGS).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jack
>
>
> Neal Bussett wrote:
>   
>> As spillover from our meeting on the 14th of June, we're moving OSCON
>> planning discussion here.
>>
>> So far: We don't know about electricity (but won't have network access).
>> And we will be, at the very least, supporting the LUGs by having flyers
>> available.
>>
>> Everyone involved in that discussion during the meeting should post their 
>> opinions here, even if you've already stated them at the meeting (since 
>> some of us have bad memories, and others weren't there).
>>
>> Neal Bussett
>> Ubuntu California
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] OSCON Booth Planning

[Jack Deslippe]

Darn, I didn't see this email until I sent mind.  Hope you don't mind.  
In order to stay organized, I will paste the text of my other email here 
so people can respond to this thread.

Here is a quick summary of what I would personally like to contribute to 
the OSCON table and my opinions on the questions about the booth that 
are still under discussion.


I would like contribute the following:

A video showing off the ubuntu desktop (compiz / look-feel / etc) and 
key apps that can be run on the ubuntu desktop (OO.org, Firefox/Hulu, 
Wine, Banshee etc).  I will upload the video to youtube tomorrow; so, 
people can comment on it and we can improve it.  I can provide a 22 inch 
lcd screen (at least) to show this on if it is accepted.

I will print a large reusable banner.  I would like to discussion the 
dimensions of this and where to get high resolution stock ubuntu images.

I will contribute up to $60 for power as it is obviously necessary for 
my video demo idea.

---
About the major questions of interest:

Should we have network: -1  (I don't think it is worth $400 and 
hopefully enough smart phones are present)

Should we have power: +1 (I think this is absolutely necessary to have a 
professional looking booth)

Should the space be split 50/50: +0  If it is possible to do it so that 
it does not misrepresent Ubuntu as being a local group or a casual 
organization than I am for it.  If it takes away from the professional 
aspect of the booth, I am against it.  Which ever way it is decided, I 
pledge my time both days to help make the Ubuntu and LUG booths be a 
success.

Should LUGs be promoted: +1 At the very least Ubuntu's booth should hand 
out flyers and perhaps present a poster showing locations of places 
where you can get help in the California area (i.e. LUGS).

Cheers,

Jack


Neal Bussett wrote:
> As spillover from our meeting on the 14th of June, we're moving OSCON
> planning discussion here.
>
> So far: We don't know about electricity (but won't have network access).
> And we will be, at the very least, supporting the LUGs by having flyers
> available.
>
> Everyone involved in that discussion during the meeting should post their 
> opinions here, even if you've already stated them at the meeting (since 
> some of us have bad memories, and others weren't there).
>
> Neal Bussett
> Ubuntu California
>
>
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] OSCON Continued

[Jack Deslippe]

Hi All,

So the irc meeting just ended and I am pretty tired; So here is a quck 
summary of what I would personally like to contribute to the OSCON table 
and my opinions on the questions about the booth that are still under 
discussion.


I would like contribute the following:

A video showing off the ubuntu desktop (compiz / look-feel / etc) and 
key apps that can be run on the ubuntu desktop (OO.org, Firefox/Hulu, 
Wine, Banshee etc).  I will upload the video to youtube tomorrow; so, 
people can comment on it and we can improve it.  I can provide a 22 inch 
lcd screen (at least) to show this on if it is accepted.

I will print a large reusable banner.  I would like to discussion the 
dimensions of this and where to get high resolution stock ubuntu images.

I will contribute up to $60 for power as it is obviously necessary for 
my video demo idea.

---
About the major questions of interest:

Should we have network: -1  (I don't think it is worth $400 and 
hopefully enough smart phones are present)

Should we have power: +1 (I think this is absolutely necessary to have a 
professional looking booth)

Should the space be split 50/50: +0  If it is possible to do it so that 
it does not misrepresent Ubuntu as being a local group or a casual 
organization than I am for it.  If it takes away from the professional 
aspect of the booth, I am against it.  Which ever way it is decided, I 
pledge my time both days to help make the Ubuntu and LUG booths be a 
success.

Should LUGs be promoted: +1 At the very least Ubuntu's booth should hand 
out flyers and perhaps present a poster showing locations of places 
where you can get help in the California area (i.e. LUGS).

Cheers,

Jack

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] electricity

[Jack Deslippe]

I have an idea.  I can bring a 22 Inch LCD monitor (if anyone has a 
bigger/brighter one that would be great) that we can use to play a 
fullscreen video on auto loop.  I have been playing around with desktop 
recording software (gtk-record-my-desktop / istanbul) - and it seems 
possible to record pretty high framerate demos if you have good 
hardware.  A 5-10 minute video showing off the ubuntu desktop (compiz / 
Gnome/ Kubuntu) and some great applications (OpenOffice / Synaptic / 
Hulu / UbuntuOne etc) would be pretty easy to do and make look 
professional. 

-Jack

Paul Reiber wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Joe Smith wrote:
>   
>> Ernest,
>>
>> Thank you for your generosity, it is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> We will ensure that your donation is used to its utmost.
>>
>> Gracious thanks,
>> Joe Smith
>> 
>
> So... what are we thinking here?  free laptop charging stations? fans?
> bright lights? neon signs?  :-)
>
> Seriously... your help is VERY much appreciated, Ernest!
>
> -- Paul
> http://reiber.org
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] OSCON page updated; discussion topics from last meeting

[Jack Deslippe]

>From my understanding, power has already been paid for.

Neal Bussett wrote:
> Robert Wall wrote:
>   
>>  * Internet and power at the booth: we would have to pay for both. Some
>> people think we should do that; some people think we should use a laptop
>> or two for demonstrative purposes but focus more on talking (it's
>> cheap!) to people.
>> 
>
>   
>>  * What resources do we need to bring? Ubuntu CDs (how many, what
>> flavor), tables, computers, handouts, etc.
>> 
>
> I don't think power is necessary for a successful booth.  I think we can
> get by with a batch of CDs and some good literature.
>
> We'll need to find and pull together the literature (handouts, etc).
> These will also be able to be used in the future as well.  We often talk
> about providing fact sheets when we do presentations, for example.
>
> As far as the selection of CDs, we'll just have to cut back our variety.
>  Probably cut AMD64 out entirely, just stick with Desktop CDs, and 90%
> Ubuntu?  something like that.
>
> Obviously the numbers aren't important at this point.  But I think a
> simplified booth that focuses more on talking it up and less on showing
> it off can certainly be successful.  Not having computers also gives us
> more room to work with, and increased options for table arrangements, etc.
>
> Neal Bussett
> Ubuntu California
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Possiblity of sharing space with Ubuntu-CA

[Jack Deslippe]

Grant/Bill,

How big (in physical size) is the Ubuntu-CA booth?  I guess Bill was 
hoping to use ~half of the space to be manned by local LUGs?  To be 
honest, unless there is a lot of space, I think it is a better idea to 
use the space to provide a well put together booth demoing and providing 
information of Ubuntu.  I say this because I think (if we prepare 
properly) the Ubuntu booth should be a very professional visually 
appealing area similar to what you would expect from say Red Hat.  While 
a LUG booth can be just a few people sitting around handing out 
flyers/disks.  I do think it would be appropriate to hand out flyers 
from local LUGs where people can find out more. 

So, It is somewhat against my own interests to say this, but I don't 
think it is really a good idea to have the booth split in two from a 
purely marketing/visual point of you.  If it is a large space, I think 
we can get away with this.
 
Is this the only Ubuntu table at OSCON?  Or is there something official 
from Canonical?  Or are you still trying to find that out?  If this 
doesn't represent "the" Ubuntu booth at OSCON, then we can/should 
probably be more flexible. 

Finally, is there a page on the wiki for people to sign up for times?  
Regardless of how this turns out, I would like to spend some time with 
both the Ubuntu booth and whatever Local-LUG presence is at OSCON.

Cheers,

-Jack



I haven't seen a lot of discussion on this list

Grant Bowman wrote:
> Hello Bill!
>
> I saw your postings to the many LUG mail lists I am subscribed to.  I
> am sorry I have not been able to respond to each one on each list, but
> having one discussion here makes sense.  We talked about this briefly
> a couple times when I visited Davis for meetings.
>
> When you say share space, exactly what are you proposing?  banners?  handouts?
>
> For our own planning we are finalizing the purchase of electricity for
> the .ORG Pavilion booth #4 (not free this year), thinking about giving
> out CDs (both prepared by us individually and burning images on site)
> and scheduling who will be at the booth talking about the latest and
> greatest in the Ubuntu spheres.  We queried the Canonical led
> Ubuntu-Marketing mailing list but have not heard back anything about
> Canonical's presence.  We either have or will request a conference
> pack from Canonical for some shirts, stickers and fliers.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences  Currently we fall into
> the "Pack B" Category but we are working to get California "Approved"
> soon.
>
> Just before Oscon there will be a Community Leadership Summit headed
> by Canonical's Community Manager, Jono Bacon.  He's been quite busy
> with audio and video casts these days.  More info is available from:
> http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/04/12/community-leadership-summit-2009/
>
> As for LinuxWorld (linuxworldexpo.com, this old URL still redirects),
> our group at our last IRC meeting (and Larry Cafiero mentioned that
> the Fedora group) agreed not to do any formal events at "Open Source
> World" (the new name) at the San Francisco Moscone Center Aug 12-13. I
> hear Microsoft will have a presence at Open Source World this year.
>
> Grant Bowman
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>   
>> Hi there, this is Bill Kendrick, co-founder and president of the
>> Linux Users' Group of Davis [1][2].  ( http://www.lugod.org/ )
>>
>> I took it upon myself (since I always seem to be the one who does this
>> kind of stuff ;^) ) to query the local Linux User Groups and find out
>> if they'd be interested in putting together a LUG booth at this year's
>> OSCON in July.
>>
>> (LUGOD had their own booth at LinuxWorld Expo once, and we put together
>> a multi-LUG booth at another LWE.)
>>
>> Unfortunately, it seems I didn't get around to asking the LUGs and
>> confirming with O'Reilly until it was too late: the .ORG Pavillion is
>> full, and we've been put onto a waiting list.
>>
>> I heard that Ubuntu-CA will be having a booth there, and wondered if
>> you'd be willing to share some space for the LUGs and some volunteers.
>>
>> Right now I've jotted down a dozen people, representing six bay area LUGs,
>> who've shown interest in seeing this happen and/or helping make it happen.
>> See the OSCON booth organizing page I've put up over at the LUGOD site:
>> http://lugod.org/projects/oscon/ [3]
>>
>> Would this be possible?  Is Ubuntu-CA interested?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> -bill!
>> Linux Users' Group of Davis
>> http://www.lugod.org/
>>
>> [1] I'm also lead dev. of Tux Paint, and a user of Kubuntu on my and my
>>wife's laptops :)
>> [2] I'm proud to say LUGOD just turned 10 years old, and continues meeting
>>regularly. :)
>> [3] You can also see our LinuxWorld booth organizing page for 2003, 2004 and
>>2007, here: http://lugod.org/projects/lwe/
>>
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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Desktop Linux Oriented User Group Meeting This Sunday

[Jack Deslippe]

(Sorry if you find this email to be spam. It is the one and only time I
will advertise to the Ubuntu-CA list)

BerkeleyLUG is having its second meeting this Sunday (May 31) at Bobby
G's Pizzeria in Berkeley California at Noon until 3:00pm. This is a new
user group focused primarily on the uses/development/promotion of
desktop Linux. Obviously there is significant overlap with Ubuntu-CA's
mission; so, I hope interested parties will drop by.

Here is the Agenda:


Date: Sunday, May 31st

Time: 12:00-3:00

Location: Bobby G’s Pizzeria (Beer / Soda / Pizza Sold and Free Wifi
Available) 2072 University Avenue

Agenda:

12:00-12:30: Meet and Greet. First three people get a prize (see below).

12:30 – 1:30: Introduce/Discuss goals of Organization. Discuss Group
projects.

* Promote and spread desktop linux in East Bay area.

* Tables at events like Solano Stroll or Sproul Plaza.

* Development of desktop Linux. How can we as a group contribute?

* Perform Modern Installfests

* Create locally produced Desktop Linux News Blog and Podcast?

* Future talks: ZaReason? High Performance Computing? Killer Apps?
Desktop Mangers? Etc…

* Organization of BerkeleyLUG discussion

1:30 – 2:00 – Create web accounts for new contributors. Anyone with
something cool related to desktop Linux to share, feel free.

Prizes:

First 2 people to show up: 10 Ubuntu Case Badges (Everyone else gets 1
case badge).

RSVP:

Please respond to ad...@berkeleylug.com if you plan on attending and
register for an account over at www.berkeleylug.com to get future emails.

I'll see everyone in the IRC sunday evening.

-Jack

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] LUGOD requests our attendance

[Jack Deslippe]

Is Ubuntu-CA doing anything for the Maker Faire?  It would be awesome if 
there were an ubuntu booth.  I think it fits the theme, since 
Linux/Ubuntu is the self/community built OS.  If we missed this cut this 
year, we should think about it for next year.

-Jack

Grant Bowman wrote:
> The regular LUG meeting went very well.  I put out about ten Jaunty
> CDs but didn't see how many were taken.  Extras were put away for
> their next meeting.  The installfest has time slots up to 2:00 which
> people reserve so they can bring in their machines and have dedicated
> attention. First-come-first-served style is also accepted.
>
> They are looking for volunteers to help users install Linux on their
> hardware.  While I am interested I will not be able to make it to
> Davis on May 30th because the Maker Faire http://makerfaire.com
> conflicts.
>
> Grant Bowman
> Ubuntu California
>
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Neal Bussett  wrote:
>   
>> Howdy guys,
>>
>> LUGOD (LUG of Davis) is holding an installfest on May 30, and was hoping
>> we could have some people there to help out with the Ubuntu stuff.
>>
>> Saturday, May 30th, from 10am-4pm, at UC Davis (a classroom it looks
>> like).
>>
>> Is anyone interested and available to attend and help out?  Two people would 
>> be
>> sufficient (more is better!)  I wasn't going to say yes until I knew we
>> could attend.  It'd be nice to hear back by Tuesday.  They would like to
>> advertise our attendance (if we'll be attending).
>>
>> Neal Bussett
>> Ubuntu California
>>
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