[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I hope it's not rejected. I understand the desire for the correct solution, and on the face of it you could argue that the fglrx driver should not have slow performance with the existing xorg code, however I think we should be pragmatic given the facts. Lots of people want to use the fglrx driver and want to use desktop effects. It's not nice to do driver specific hacks but looking at it another way it's a bit like having having to deal with different driver capabilities to provide useable results, something that's not unusual in the real world of software on any platform. I might be wrong but it doesn't seem that the conditional patch would have lots of negative effects on many other clients, I suppose with extensive testing the patch could show some other issues. I guess the days of manually patching your own Linux system are not over. I think I would have to get the latest source next time and apply the patch and make sure I don't make the same mistake with the package version! -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Do we even know that this bug is on ATI's radar? I mean I see no indication on the upstream bug report that it is being looked at http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1546 The fact that ATI hasn't responded to the bug is the most frustrating part of all this. Either way though, I always end up regretting getting a laptop with ATI video. Next time I'm making sure it has an nvidia chip, since I've never had a problem with those linux drivers. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I don't know if it is the same problem but when activating the desktop effects, maximizing or opening new windows is very very slow except for VLC!! I have an ATI HD3430. Sorry for my English :p -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
madmed: Certainly sound like the same thing. I think the solution in comment #167 is probably the easiest way to fix the problem though it's not the way I finally got it fixed. Good luck with it! -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I can't beleive this was rejected for Karmic. If the driver is fglrx then do not do the other bug fix code that causes the performance problem! I installed the latest fglrx driver from ATI and applied the patch. PERFECT, all desktop effects worked perfectly and the speed was pretty good. But, of course there had to be a problem. I installed another package and I guess because the patch had an older xorg package version it decided to uninstall most xorg packages, so when I rebooted I had no X at all. Well I have X working again, with the ati driver, but I can no longer use fglrx driver as X fails to start. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
just watch it get rejected for 10.4 too! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:05 AM, krona kr...@krona.f2s.com wrote: I can't beleive this was rejected for Karmic. If the driver is fglrx then do not do the other bug fix code that causes the performance problem! I installed the latest fglrx driver from ATI and applied the patch. PERFECT, all desktop effects worked perfectly and the speed was pretty good. But, of course there had to be a problem. I installed another package and I guess because the patch had an older xorg package version it decided to uninstall most xorg packages, so when I rebooted I had no X at all. Well I have X working again, with the ati driver, but I can no longer use fglrx driver as X fails to start. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
@ Prabhakar Nagral, did this work for you? @ José Tomás Atria I can confirm that switching off fglrx power saving takes care of the problem for me. Further I have found that it only affects me if I boot with power saving enabled. If I boot with power saving off, then turn it on from Catalyst I don't have the leak. If I neglect to switch it off before turning the computer off, then the next time I boot up the memory leak will be present. This can be alleviated at that time by turning power saving off. One issue is that I now have: [fglrx:fireglAsyncioIntEnableMsgHandler] *ERROR* interrupt source ff66 is not supported on this hardware (return code = 1) showing up in my syslog when I boot, and on moving the mouse after issuing the command sleep 1 xset dpms force off via terminal. Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
ok, maybe i am not understanding it allright, but it tried disabling powerplay in amdcccle, and didn't see any change in memory use. I was expecting to see a drop in memory use after disabling powerplay, like the one observed when opening and closing paraview. maybe it wasn't this you were refering to? On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com wrote: @ Prabhakar Nagral, did this work for you? @ José Tomás Atria I can confirm that switching off fglrx power saving takes care of the problem for me. Further I have found that it only affects me if I boot with power saving enabled. If I boot with power saving off, then turn it on from Catalyst I don't have the leak. If I neglect to switch it off before turning the computer off, then the next time I boot up the memory leak will be present. This can be alleviated at that time by turning power saving off. One issue is that I now have: [fglrx:fireglAsyncioIntEnableMsgHandler] *ERROR* interrupt source ff66 is not supported on this hardware (return code = 1) showing up in my syslog when I boot, and on moving the mouse after issuing the command sleep 1 xset dpms force off via terminal. Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
i have also disabled powerplay and after a restart my memory is quite low ... 550MB after 1 day uptime. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
still a problem in karmic 64 -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
thanks much..found it! Regards, -P --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com Subject: [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled To: pmnag...@yahoo.co.in Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 12:30 PM @ Prabhakar Nagral It's in the Catalyst control center, second to last in the list on the left. Applications - Other - Catalyst Control Center (Administrative). or gksudo amdcccle Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “fglrx-installer” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: [updated] Since the new version of ubuntu/kubuntu (9.04 jaunty) a new bug occurs with ATI cards and desktop effects enabled. With fglrx driver, the unminimizing of windows is really slow ... it can take from 1 to 3 seconds. Also, the maximizing, unmaximizing and Alt+Tab present the same problem. The opening of a window present the same bug, freezing the system for 1sec. This bug is under both gnome and kde (4.2.1) (I have an ATI HD2600 Mobility Pro ) [lspci] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a00] (rev 03) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] [1002:9581] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
do we have confirmation for this? ie, is the memory leak associated to fglrx power saving? On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Prabhakar Nagral pmnag...@yahoo.co.in wrote: thanks much..found it! Regards, -P --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com Subject: [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled To: pmnag...@yahoo.co.in Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 12:30 PM @ Prabhakar Nagral It's in the Catalyst control center, second to last in the list on the left. Applications - Other - Catalyst Control Center (Administrative). or gksudo amdcccle Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “fglrx-installer” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: [updated] Since the new version of ubuntu/kubuntu (9.04 jaunty) a new bug occurs with ATI cards and desktop effects enabled. With fglrx driver, the unminimizing of windows is really slow ... it can take from 1 to 3 seconds. Also, the maximizing, unmaximizing and Alt+Tab present the same problem. The opening of a window present the same bug, freezing the system for 1sec. This bug is under both gnome and kde (4.2.1) (I have an ATI HD2600 Mobility Pro ) [lspci] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a00] (rev 03) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] [1002:9581] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I recently turned off powerplay (the power save options for ATI cards) in Catalyst and my memory leak disappeared! Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi, Where is this disable option? Regards, -P --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com Subject: [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled To: pmnag...@yahoo.co.in Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 1:56 AM I recently turned off powerplay (the power save options for ATI cards) in Catalyst and my memory leak disappeared! Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “fglrx-installer” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: [updated] Since the new version of ubuntu/kubuntu (9.04 jaunty) a new bug occurs with ATI cards and desktop effects enabled. With fglrx driver, the unminimizing of windows is really slow ... it can take from 1 to 3 seconds. Also, the maximizing, unmaximizing and Alt+Tab present the same problem. The opening of a window present the same bug, freezing the system for 1sec. This bug is under both gnome and kde (4.2.1) (I have an ATI HD2600 Mobility Pro ) [lspci] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a00] (rev 03) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] [1002:9581] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
@ Prabhakar Nagral It's in the Catalyst control center, second to last in the list on the left. Applications - Other - Catalyst Control Center (Administrative). or gksudo amdcccle Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi all, I took Nico's advice and switched to the backclear ppa provided by k0ekk0ek (thanks, and thanks Felix) and found that I still had the memory leak. So thinking that maybe it shouldn't be blamed on the no-backfill (thanks Bryce) or backclear patches I reverted to the default x-server-core that is currently shipping with Karmic. Poor performance and I *still* had a memory leak. So to reiterate: I have memory leaks with fglrx paired with any version of x-server currently out there (default, backclear and no-backfill). I have now reverted to radeon and the current x-server-core that ships with Karmic (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4) and have had no increase in memory even though I have been doing things that typically would have sent it rocketing (flash movies, heavy browsing). My mem is still sitting comfortably at 11%, normally it would be upwards of 30% at this point. I am using Karmic 32 bit fresh install as of last night, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series in a Lenovo T400. Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
@Vancouverite Just to clarify what you mean; First you say you had memory leaks with no-back-fill. then switched to backclear, and still had memory leaks. Then switched to the default that ships with Karmic koala - still memory leaks So what did you do differently to now have no memory leak? You are still using the default x-server-core (which you said still gave you memory leaks I reverted to the default x-server-core that is currently shipping with Karmic. Poor performance and I *still* had a memory leak) I take it you would now (again) experience the slow unminimizing bug at the moment? sean On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I took Nico's advice and switched to the backclear ppa provided by k0ekk0ek (thanks, and thanks Felix) and found that I still had the memory leak. So thinking that maybe it shouldn't be blamed on the no-backfill (thanks Bryce) or backclear patches I reverted to the default x-server-core that is currently shipping with Karmic. Poor performance and I *still* had a memory leak. So to reiterate: I have memory leaks with fglrx paired with any version of x-server currently out there (default, backclear and no-backfill). I have now reverted to radeon and the current x-server-core that ships with Karmic (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4) and have had no increase in memory even though I have been doing things that typically would have sent it rocketing (flash movies, heavy browsing). My mem is still sitting comfortably at 11%, normally it would be upwards of 30% at this point. I am using Karmic 32 bit fresh install as of last night, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series in a Lenovo T400. Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM, svaens sva...@gmail.com wrote: So what did you do differently to now have no memory leak? On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.comwrote: I have now reverted to radeon and the current x-server-core that ships with Karmic (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4) and have had no increase in memory even -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
@ svaens Sorry if I wasn't clear. Using fglrx, regardless of the x-server package, lead to a memory leak. The only configuration without a memory leak was disabling the proprietary drivers and using the open source radeon driver (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver) with 2D graphics only. Also, the poor performance I mentioned was slow opening windows. Not just unminimizing, but also initial loading. Just for interests sake, I downloaded the latest driver from the ATI site and installed it and have all the same issues with the memory leak and slow window opening. I am now using it with the backclear patch and after 40 min up-time my memory is at 27%, where normal is 16% with firefox open. I just started and exited Paraview and my memory dropped to the appropriate 16%... Van. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Sorry to ask again. And I do so realising that probably, I need to ask because of my own ignorance. Is it that; fglrx paired with any version of x-server = memory leak radeon driver? paired with any version of x-server = no memory leak meaning, the difference is not the x-server, but the graphics driver ? So, it should be possible to achieve fast (normal) unminimizing AND no memory leak. And that is what vancouverite has achieved? 2009/11/11 José Tomás Atria jtat...@gmail.com On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM, svaens sva...@gmail.com wrote: So what did you do differently to now have no memory leak? On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Vancouverite sethgilchr...@gmail.com wrote: I have now reverted to radeon and the current x-server-core that ships with Karmic (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4) and have had no increase in memory even -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
In equation form: fglrx + [karmic current x-server (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4)] = [memory leak] + [bad window opening] fglrx + [either modified x-server] = [memory leak] + [good window opening] radeon + [karmic current x-server (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4)] = [no memory leak] + [good 2D effects] I have not tested radeon + [modified x-server]. The driver is leaking memory, and in my case it's leaking it quite badly. Van -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Thank you van, I use currently the open source radeon driver 2D (on my HD 3470 mobility) to escape the unminimize problem. It would be a shame for me to install the backclear patch and still be stuck using the 2D version because of a memory leak. That paraview affects the memory leak like that is surely a huge clue for finding and fixing the problem! As seems the memory leak only occurs when using the fglrx driver, that should be what needs now fixing. However, I read that the fglrx driver contains both open source and proprietary code. Does that mean that, while it could be out of the open source community's hands (something for ATI to fix), if the bug originates from that 'open source part' of the driver, it could be fixable by Ubuntu developers (or indeed, anyone else) ? sean -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM, svaens sva...@gmail.com wrote: So, it should be possible to achieve fast (normal) unminimizing AND no memory leak. And that is what vancouverite has achieved? As long as you don't use fglrx and stick to 2d acceleration only, it appears so, yes. But then again, the origin of this bug is poor performance with fglrx... -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I tried patching that, but I get below error and am not able to patch pnag...@pnagral-ubuntu:~$ patch -p1 /home/pnagral/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch can't find file to patch at input line 3 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -- |--- xorg-server-1.6.3/composite/compalloc.c2009-07-07 13:48:57.0 -0400 |+++ xorg-server-1.6.3-backclear/composite/compalloc.c 2009-09-09 11:55:03.0 -0400 -- Also, will this patch resolve memory leak issue as well? Regards, -P -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I installed Felix Kuehling patch, via https://launchpad.net/~k0ekk0ek/+archive/ppa (#291) and it seems to remove my problem with slow resize of windows with ATI Proprietary FGLRX driver. I'm on a DELL Stiduo XPS 16, ATI Radeon HD 3670. Thanks goes to Felix Kuehling and k0ekk0ek! :-) -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Can confirm the above on same hardware, Felix patch from PPA works like a charm. Currently monitoring xorg memory issue to see if this is still a problem, looks fine so far but only 7 hrs uptime -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi, Thanks for the help. I could install the fix. But, I face memory problem. Though I run very few applications, I see that almost all of my memory is eaten up. Pasted below output of 'top' sorted by memory. Is there a solution for this? top - 23:26:20 up 2 days, 1:59, 4 users, load average: 0.05, 0.06, 0.02 Tasks: 197 total, 2 running, 195 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.8%us, 1.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 96.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2039792k total, 1836668k used, 203124k free,86244k buffers Swap: 2867560k total, 119444k used, 2748116k free, 979172k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 1479 root 20 0 233m 127m 26m S5 6.4 28:59.93 Xorg 8388 pnagral 20 0 283m 110m 23m S0 5.6 0:48.48 thunderbird-bin 19311 pnagral 20 0 233m 96m 70m S0 4.8 0:15.95 soffice.bin 26340 pnagral 20 0 123m 69m 14m S0 3.5 0:23.77 python 27259 pnagral 20 0 171m 57m 22m S0 2.9 1:07.18 gnome-do 26024 pnagral 20 0 190m 47m 21m S0 2.4 0:25.03 chromium-browse 26398 pnagral 20 0 109m 30m 19m S0 1.5 0:05.12 pidgin 26056 pnagral 21 1 114m 28m 11m S0 1.4 0:19.43 chromium-browse 2942 pnagral 20 0 149m 27m 15m S0 1.4 0:20.67 nautilus 8243 pnagral 20 0 33900 25m 8244 S0 1.3 0:19.87 compiz.real 9958 pnagral 20 0 98.4m 22m 14m S0 1.2 0:02.64 gedit 27916 pnagral 20 0 92600 22m 15m S0 1.1 0:00.43 Giver 2268 pnagral 20 0 78864 18m 9940 S0 0.9 0:10.98 awn-applet 27928 pnagral 20 0 104m 17m 10m S0 0.9 0:00.23 chromium-browse 2882 pnagral 20 0 88200 17m 9780 S0 0.9 0:17.00 gnome-panel 5928 pnagral 20 0 34128 16m 9604 S0 0.9 0:00.12 python 3046 pnagral 20 0 174m 16m 13m S0 0.8 0:18.53 nm-applet 3022 pnagral 20 0 73044 15m 8412 S0 0.8 0:01.82 python 18911 pnagral 20 0 72280 13m 9m S2 0.7 0:03.77 gnome-terminal 8245 pnagral 20 0 60988 11m 8964 S0 0.6 0:04.09 gtk-window-deco 2784 pnagral 20 0 61564 9904 6068 S0 0.5 0:12.43 notify-osd 26027 pnagral 20 0 66428 8900 6936 S0 0.4 0:00.02 chromium-browse 3024 pnagral 20 0 77044 8824 6572 S0 0.4 0:00.53 bluetooth-apple 3017 pnagral 20 0 60728 8424 6052 S0 0.4 0:04.07 update-notifier 2984 pnagral 20 0 136m 8032 5880 S0 0.4 0:05.97 gnome-power-man 5824 pnagral 20 0 67604 7900 5640 S0 0.4 0:08.33 avant-window-na 3019 pnagral 20 0 72952 7532 4456 S0 0.4 0:00.66 fusion-icon 2698 pnagral 20 0 144m 6872 4456 S0 0.3 0:10.35 gnome-settings- 3443 pnagral 20 0 64516 6160 4236 S0 0.3 0:27.31 cpufreq-applet 27097 root 20 0 9320 5984 2692 S0 0.3 0:00.04 python
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Well, I'm using both beckclear patched and unpatched systems, and I'm afraid I have to admit that there might be memory leaks in the first one. However it is the one I use most and often for small amount of time, so I'm not that sure. In any case, sometimes I see 200-300M (RES), that it's not very bad, but not good either. I think we'd better investigate whether the problem lies in the patch or in xorg itself. I'll keep an eye on it. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi all, I had this problem as well and applied the no-backfill patch from the Karmic ppa and it solved the delay problem. I started having the memory issues and thinking they were unrelated I participated in another bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/432531 that should be marked as a duplicate of this one. I was running 64 bit at the time, but I get the same problems even after switching to 32 bit. It discovered something that might help to track down the memory leak. I have ParaView compiled from source on my system (www.paraview.org, I compiled with MPI, Python scripting and the -j 2 option (http://paraview.org/Wiki/ParaView:Build_And_Install#Build_ParaView)) and if I start it and then quit it, even if I don't do anything at all in the program it clears a large portion of the leaked memory. It doesn't seem to clear all of it, but for sure about 800 MB can be reclaimed. I don't really know anything about video drivers and memory leaks, but hopefully this can help. Van Lenovo T400 Ubuntu karmic 32 bit -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
With the backclear patch I have no memory leaks at all! If you are using the no-backfill patch, try the backclear patch by Felix Kuehling . backclear-patch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/351186/comments/228 ppa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/351186/comments/291 -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Now Felix patch works for me too. Updated X.Org some days ago with automatic updates. Then applied the patch and everything is working fine. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi, Watch this comment, I hope it will help you : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/351186/comments/256 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Prabhakar Nagral pmnag...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Hi, I am not able to get key for felix's patch. Can someone help me in getting that? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
It is a shame that this bug still persists in Karmic. Both on Canonical's and on ATI's side. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Should add a big thank you to Felix Kuehling for his backclear patch, works like a charm also for xorg_server 1.6.4 on Karmic, Catalyst 9.10 that came with it, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
The backclear patch works for me too. Radeon HD4550, Ubuntu 9.10, fglrx Thanks Felix! -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Both patch work for me. I don't see any difference between them in fact. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi everybody, I have a Toshiba Satellite A200 laptop with ATI HD2600. Same problems as for everyone else. Kubuntu 9.10 final and official ATI 9.10 driver. I tried to install the Felix patch (by miself and with ppa provided by k0ekk0ek #291) and did NOT worked for me: kubuntu totally freezed on reboot with blank screen, ctrl+alt+f1 not working either. Tried to reboot on recovery mode and pc freezes after startx command. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Radeon Mobility HD 3670. Felix, you did a great job. KDE, Ubuntu 9.10. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
thanks a lot, Felix Kuehling's patch worked for me too (karmic, fglrx, ATI HD4850) Restoring minimized windows is now as fast as i expect it to be. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Thanks Felix, your patch solved (in my case) the problem. Thanks. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
ATI Mobility Radeon HD4330 and Karmic final. Felix patch solved speed issue when resizing windows, but using emerald window decorator, produces flickering when horizontal resizing. GTK works perfect. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
On my dell studio xps 1640 with ati radeon 3670HD, the best patch is the feilx kueling 's one !! ;-) (thanks so much félix :) ) On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:08 PM, AlexE a...@nextworld.de wrote: On my machine, the better patch definitely is the one by Felix Kuehlig. Works like a charm. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I agree that felix's patch is superior (apparently the empty buffer's load faster than the ones containing random memory contents, besides the already discussed security and aestethics aspects), but at least for me, i'm experiencing memory leaks with both alternatives. Incidentally, i seem to observe a higher memory leaking with newer X versions as karmic release approaches than in jaunty or firts karmic betas... do you think that a memory usage test in a virual machine will do any good? i can set up a couple of vms and leave them running to see memory usage patterns... On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Daëavelwyn daeavel...@gmail.com wrote: On my dell studio xps 1640 with ati radeon 3670HD, the best patch is the feilx kueling 's one !! ;-) (thanks so much félix :) ) On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:08 PM, AlexE a...@nextworld.de wrote: On my machine, the better patch definitely is the one by Felix Kuehlig. Works like a charm. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I have uploaded a version of xserver-xorg patched with the xserver-xorg- backclear.patch by Felix Kuehling into my PPA. https://launchpad.net/~k0ekk0ek/+archive/ppa -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Which one is the better patch ? However, it would be great if those ppa can be maintain up to date (sync with the legacy xorg package). -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
in my experience, Felxi Kuehling's patch has performed better on this machine. It looks prettier too :) On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Malaria mala...@sfr.fr wrote: Which one is the better patch ? However, it would be great if those ppa can be maintain up to date (sync with the legacy xorg package). -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
On my machine, the better patch definitely is the one by Felix Kuehlig. Works like a charm. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I found 8.10 to have a stable ati enviroment. Been a slippery downhill slope from their for ati users = Sent from my mobile, so apologies if it seems short and to the point. On Oct 25, 2009 12:40 AM, Zega khonku...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys. I'm going to be just a little bit off topic, but it seems that this is the only place where this critical issue is being debated. I'm disappointed not to find any reviews (along with suggestions) of this issue on any tech site. I've discovered Ubuntu right when Jaunty came out, and to my (un)luck, i have a Toshiba laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon 2600 HD. So i have the same problems as you guys. I applied the backfill patch, but soon got fed up with the still-sluggish environment, and the difficulty in doing routine tasks that require more than just a bit of video power (tabs, IDEs, videos etc) , that on Windows were not a problem. So i decided to put Ubuntu for a nap until it was properly fixed. I had it as a second booter, but mainly used Windows and reguraly checked for updates on this issue.. Now, after a very nightmareish night of trying to install Visual Studio, that ended up tearing down the whole syhen stem (i'm not a beginner but this is ridiculous), i've decided to leave leave windows behind and make the best out of a linuxbased OS. The problem is, i really really wish this issue would go away. I know i can simply disable desktop effects, but that doesn't mean that i have full videocad support, and the system will still lag when i need it the most. That's why i invested in a better laptop after all. So what should i do? Is this problem persistent throughout other linux distros? Is Debian or Fedora or another one free of this bug? Or can i successfully go back prior to Jaunty, to an older version, and not have problems with all the new apps? (i'm scared by the thought of constantly having dozens of New Updates that i'm not allowed to touch) I need alternatives, and i apologise if it's off topic, but i really did not find what i was looking for anywhere else. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.la... -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
This bug is disappointingly still present with the Catalyst 9.10 (8.661) drivers officially released a couple of days ago. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I also would like to see this patch in the official repositories. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
More simple (because there is not enough time remaining for karmic), just provide an OPTIONAL package in repositories. This way, there will be no problem with intel/nvidia users. An other (temporally) solution may be to set up a ppa with the patched xorg → it will be easier than patching/compiling for average users). -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
here is a ppa for karmic: https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-weyland/+archive/xserver-nobackfill/ -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Thank you SO much, it works as expected. I notice only now that several ppa were already set-up. (sorry but there is too much comments here ;)) Which ppa is recommend ? which one will be maintain up to date ? and for jaunty ? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
We shall not confuse the two solutions that have been offered so far. First, there was the no-backfill patch that made its way into the PPA linked in #285, that is https://launchpad.net/~launchpad- weyland/+archive/xserver-nobackfill/ Second, there is the backclear patch provided by Felix Kuehlig in #228. I have been using this patch for days now - and I am not experiencing any problems. I'd be happy to see a PPA for this patch. Downloading, patching, compiling is kinda tough for non-skilled users. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Yes, that was also my understanding of 'incomplete'. And I asked precisely because I was afraid that its status of 'incomplete' would see it being left out by Ubuntu developers. Could the powers that be reconsider the status of this bug?, as I believe there is plenty of information to list it as either; a) can't fix (ATI bug only) b) will fix (xorg bug) c) will fix (ATI bug, but we can work-around without causing Intel users problems, i.e. the patch is ok with intel, nvidia). -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
rmmm. I would have thought that incomplete means that there's not enough information to further locate the problem and hence the bug is impossible to work on. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Aisthesis nolat...@gmail.com wrote: Incomplete because, in order to confirm that the patch is acceptable to be included in xorg, it needs tested on other installations with intel, nvidia (drivers other than fglrx). I have an ati laptop and nvidia desktop, will post my findings when I have the time. Others should as well if you have alternate hardware configurations so this bug/patch can be expedited. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hello, Are you sure about the steps ?? I will trying to explain more : Have you completely migrate to Karmic Koala Beta version ??? first, DL the patch : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32728179/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch then in a terminal do : sudo apt-get build-dep xorg-server apt-get source xorg-server cd xorg-server-1.6.4 = be careful to ajust the version to your xorg server version patch -p1 /path/to/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch = be careful to enter the right path to the patch. sudo apt-get install devscripts debuild cd .. sudo dpkg --install xserver-xorg-core*.deb You will probably have some gpg error, but it's not a problem, just ignore them. I hope I can help you, otherwise, I'm afraid I can't do nothing more :-s Daeavelwyn. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Denham Coote denhamco...@gmail.com wrote: I must be a complete idiot. I tried patching, as per #256. All seemed to be going ok. Got the same errors as #236. Proceeded to install. Rebooted. Windows still take 5 seconds to restore. Am I missing something? Dell Studio 1735, Radeon HD 3650, Ubuntu, x86, xorg-server_1.6.4 -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi Daëavelwyn That's pretty much exactly what I did, yes. The only thing I can see as being different is that I installed from the Karmic Beta CD, as opposed to upgrading from Jaunty. Ah, just looking at you commands, I realise I may have issued 'patch -pl' instead of 'patch -p1'. I will try again tonight and let the list know. Thanks, Denham -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question or the wrong place to ask, but: As I've (wrongly) patched and installed xorg, what steps would I need to take to rectify? I assume that the patching didn't actually work and I ended up installing a vanilla version. Would I first need to remove the currently installed version and then repeat the steps, or am I safe to simply follow the instructions from the beginning again (will my unpatched version be replaced, without removing first?) Thanks in advance, Denham -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
That worked! Turns out I'm just a dumbass. Having just rebooted, my memory usage is 465mb, with Xorg using 105mb. I'll let you know the status after it's been running for a while/overnight. Thanks for the help, Denham -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Applying last Karmic Koala update today cause this bug appears again. a xserver-xorg packages was updated, and I''ve had to patch again with Félix Kuehling's patch. After applying the patch, problem disappears. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Unfortunately, now the window of opportunity has closed. Since the testing coverage has not been as wide as needed, this bug will have to be left for LL to solve. ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Incomplete ? What else is needed for this bug to be confirmed? I don't understand. when a bug is marked as 'Incomplete' it typically doesn't get worked on, I believe. Please explain. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Just applied the xserver-xorg-backclear.patch. Everything goes faster, very nice speed of maximizing, unminimizing windows. Testing the memory leakeage now. Will report later p.s. Karmic (Ubuntu 9.10) with fglrx 8.660 -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I must be a complete idiot. I tried patching, as per #256. All seemed to be going ok. Got the same errors as #236. Proceeded to install. Rebooted. Windows still take 5 seconds to restore. Am I missing something? Dell Studio 1735, Radeon HD 3650, Ubuntu, x86, xorg-server_1.6.4 -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Geek87 wrote on 2009-09-20: #215 Hi! I've Karmic installed on my desktop and today, when updating, I got a new Fglrx driver which is more recent than the one on ATI website. I installed it and restarted my computer but the problem isn't solved yet. So I wonder, Sergey Sventitski, how did you get the problem solved? Hi, Geek87, It was solved under ubuntu 9.04 and the latest FGLRX drivers 8.650 from ATI. Now i've updated to Karmic and have the same issue again fglrx version is 8.660 ( -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I understand people's frustration that this is not looking likely to make it into Karmic given the time remaining, but instead of fretting about it please realize there is still a window of opportunity for inclusion, so it would be much more productive to go find hardware or friends with hardware running drivers beyond fglrx, have them test the patch and give results here. We will need test results both against KDE and GNOME. In case you don't understand my caution - this patch is to fix a problem specific to fglrx but it is against xorg-server so affects code used by ALL drivers. Given that there have been confirmed reports about memory leaks occurring from this patch, my concern is that this could potentially introduce memory leaks for all users. If this were to occur, it might improve things for a few users but would degrade Ubuntu for the vast majority, which personally I think would be unfortunate. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I am using latest Kubuntu Karmic with ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3450 and fglrx and is slow (real slow...) by using or not desktop effects and i notice it more when i move a Window. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Sorry, I meant resizing windows... -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Applied the patch worked great besides some minor glitches, but after 7-8 hours of standby I discovered it was producing a memory leak. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
How long does it take to put a fix of this problem by default on Ubuntu? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I think the memory leak issue should be sorted out before this patch is included for karmic. Also, since the no-backfill patch produced glitches for some kde users I'd like to hear test results against KDE for this, using at least -intel and -ati. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I agree that the memory leak should be resolved, but I am astonished of the speed that things are going. This bug strikes more than 1 year when 9.10 is released and I don't see anything but some community patches that just produce memory leaks. It's really becoming a matter of the image of Ubuntu. ;) -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I don't think putting either patch into the public release would be smart. Neither patch fixes the defect, rather both provide a work-around at a cost. The wrong part is that since both patches target the XOrg server itself the cost would have to be paid by any user, regardless of whether he/she uses the defective drivers. I have not seen any similar defect notes with a different driver, that leads me to believe the problem lies within the driver, not XOrg. Even though I am affected by this bug I would rather drop using visual effects (or use the integrated Intel VC), rather then imposing negative effect to the other Ubuntu users. Is there any way this issue can be resolved WITH Ati/AMD, rather then DESPITE Ati/AMD? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
If we can't find a better solution (which hopefully we can) Why does everyone ignore that fact that it does NOT have to be INCLUDED by default. Put it in the repos so people who want the fix can easily install it without having to compile from source. For example arch linux has it in their repos as xorg-minimize-fix. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
ehem, i don't know who is supposed to decide this, but i think that such a visible usability bug on one of the three typical configurations (ATI's fglrx) will be a major showstopper for many new users. We need to find a solution, any solution, that does not require googling and installing some dark non-default package to make the desktop usable. I understand that the fix might not be ideal, but whatever is decided, it has to imply an automatic solution without user intervention. If we know that this problem affects all fglrx installations, then we could push the patch as a dependency on the jockey installation process of the propietary driver or whatever. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM, bwat47 bwa...@gmail.com wrote: If we can't find a better solution (which hopefully we can) Why does everyone ignore that fact that it does NOT have to be INCLUDED by default. Put it in the repos so people who want the fix can easily install it without having to compile from source. For example arch linux has it in their repos as xorg-minimize-fix. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I can also confirm the backclear patch by Felix, and works on 1.6.4 following from Daëavelwyn's instructions. Put this fix into Ubuntu 9.10 final release please. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
On my dell studio XPS 1640 with ati HD3670, the patch from Félix Kuehling works perfectly (really thanks félix !!), minimize and resize windows are no longer a problem for me :-) If someone wants to apply the patch, here is a little sum up : first, DL the patch : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32728179/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch then in a terminal do : sudo apt-get build-dep xorg-server apt-get source xorg-server cd xorg-server-1.6.3 patch -p1 /path/to/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch sudo apt-get install devscripts debuild cd .. sudo dpkg --install xserver-xorg-core*.deb I've the last 1.6.4 version of xorg-server, and it's work even if the patch was made for 1.6.3 -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I can confirm this bug was affecting my Thinkpad W500's Radeon HD3650 in jaunty and the new karmic beta (32 and 64bit). It was unbearable. I just applied Felix's backclear patch and it fixed it! -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I really hope to see this almost pre-historical bug resolved before Karmic's final version. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
deb package? What deb package, and what is the link? Good for jaunty? Or only Karmic ? thanks! On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Xavier zheka.p...@gmail.com wrote: Downloaded deb packages from launchpad resource. Installed them and now lag dissapeared. Only problem in the hibernate... But seems that I can go smoothly without it ;) Thank you guys ;) -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
ppa rep with the patch for karmic plis? On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:45 AM, svaens sva...@gmail.com wrote: deb package? What deb package, and what is the link? Good for jaunty? Or only Karmic ? thanks! On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Xavier zheka.p...@gmail.com wrote: Downloaded deb packages from launchpad resource. Installed them and now lag dissapeared. Only problem in the hibernate... But seems that I can go smoothly without it ;) Thank you guys ;) -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
#246 how did you conclude no memory leaks? I applied the backclear patch and for me it has the same effect as the no-backfill patch. Uptime 23 hours Xorg memory usage: 2.5 GB () To me both patches are workarounds. I find it hard to consider either a proper fix :(. If I have an uptime of 2 days I will use 5gb ram. :( -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Maybe I concluded it because I get no memory leak on my system? Couple hours uptime, never goes over like 900 mb ram usage. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Patch worked 100% over here. Dell Studio XPS 16 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV635 Audio device [Radeon HD 3600 Series] Kubuntu karmic / all updates -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I have a Lenovo W500 with Radeon HD3650 card running Ubuntu 9.04. My xorg version is 1.6.0 The problem of slow unminizing, etc with desktop effects enabled is now solved after applying XServer with no backfill functionality from the below link: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/xserver-no-backfill However, I am facing a new problem now. The problem is, whenever I reduce the resolution, the screen size shrinks from all the 4 sides rather than changing the resolution. I had opened a thread in ubuntuforums for this, whose link is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1239921 I have not got any response over there. Could someone help me out in solving this problem? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Prabhakar: You're probably missing a BIOS setting to expand the Flat Panel view. Check your BIOS settings. People! I am using Ubuntu 9.04 AMD64 on a Lenovo T500, with dual video: - an Integrated 'Intel' - a 'Discrete Graphics Adapter: ATI Radeon 3650 (Mobility HD) Due to many problems with the ATI drivers I am inclined to use the slower, but better supported Intel video (it has different problems). The BIOS allows me to turn the ATI off and use the integrated Intel, which is what I am doing now. I am following this thread, and while I am not willing to sacrifice stability using the No-Back-Fill (due to memory leaks), I was wandering if the Clear-Rather-Than-Back-Fill displays similar problems. I am also a bit cautious, since the provided patches touch the XOrg server itself. If something goes wrong I fear I may end up with a system that will not be revert-able to a working condition. Is there any way I can test this using a Live CD and patch on-the-fly? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
No memory leaks here using the backclear patch -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I tried this patch in this way: 1) installed ATI driver from AMD site. 2) created patched deb package version 1.6.0 of xorg 3) installed new xorg When restarted, nothing can be seen. Only black screen. What I have missed? Maybe I need 1.6.3 version of xorg sources? Or maybe my steps are not correct? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
I have a ATI 3450 HD. The patched worked just fine, but yesterday updated karmic packages and now I just get a flashing white screen on booting Ubuntu. Begining to lose my temper in this situation. AMD drivers in linux are really a paine in the a**. Also in the short time everything was suppose to work fine ... I had some trouble configuring my screens when connecting to a HDTV ( I couldn't disable my laptop screen ). -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
@svaens: Xorg 1.6.0 is fairly close to 1.6.3. You could try applying the backclear patch to it. I'd say your chances are about 95% that it'll work. In my experience the latest drivers don't resolve this issue. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Try this sequence of commands: sudo apt-get build-dep xorg-server apt-get source xorg-server cd xorg-server-1.6.3 patch -p1 /path/to/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch debuild cd .. sudo dpkg --install xserver-xorg-core*.deb -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Thank you for telling me how to install it :) delay seems to be completely gone now for me. Works very well. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
absolutely brilliant. Fixed my HD3650 restore problem without fail. The debuild ended on this: Now signing changes and any dsc files... signfile xorg-server_1.6.3-1ubuntu7.dsc Loïc Minier loic.min...@ubuntu.com gpg: skipped Loïc Minier loic.min...@ubuntu.com: secret key not available gpg: /tmp/debsign.EVxIHZtW/xorg-server_1.6.3-1ubuntu7.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting debuild: fatal error at line 1255: running debsign failed But other than that, problem has been resolved. Thanks. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
One thing; attempting to run an 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade', I get asked whether I want to upgrade the xserver-xorg-core package and the related dev one. Surely if I update this I will lose the patch? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Just applied the latest patch, and I also am no longer observing the slowness. If I notice anything else strange that seems to have come with the patch, I'll add another comment. Felix: Thank you! This has been driving me nuts since upgrading to jaunty. For the record my hardware is an HD3400 in a dell studio 1537 -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
As you may already know, it also affects karmic with the latest xserver- xorg-core package (1.6.3-1ubuntu7) br HPS -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi all, I have a couple questions before I jump into this. @Felix You mentioned this is a patch against the Xorg version 1.6.3 included in Karmic. Does that mean I should not use it in Jaunty with Xorg 1.6.0 ? Also, a subscriber to this bug, Michel, mentioned above that he was able to solve his problem by installing only the latest ATI driver from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx Now I am wondering what I should do. I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470. Should I first check if this new ATI driver fixes it for me? It would seem this would be the cleanest fix? @Anyone Does anyone know if it is planned Karmic include the latest driver referred to by Michel ? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
@svaens The ati driver in karmic is actually already newer than the one on ati's site (pre-release cat 9.10) the one on atis site is 9.9. I have used 9.9 before and it did not fix it for me. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
The patch is against the Xserver source shipped with Karmic's xorg- server 1.6.3-1ubuntu4. Do not apply the no-backfill patch at the same time as my backclear patch, they are mutually exclusive. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
