RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Mario Giorno]

Title: Message



wow, 
Kyle, you rule. Thanks for sniffing this out and thank you, John, for the 
proactive movement.
 
 
Mario

  
  -Original Message-From: Kyle Cassidy 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 
  4:11 PMTo: 'John Ellingsworth'; Jonathan CassCc: 
  univcity@list.purple.comSubject: RE: [UC] Crime in West 
  Philly/Ucity
  http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/crimes-index.html 
  Funny how what we'd seen as "man robbed and then shot in the 
  face" is only reported by the almanac as "robbery". 
  I don't know whether there's an epidemic of purse snatchings 
  or shootings. 
  Thanks, john, for your efforts to get better crime 
  reporting. 
  Kyle 

Re: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[William H. Magill]

On 13 Jan, 2005, at 16:28, Susan Jacobson wrote:
Funny how all of the really violent crime (robbery/assault/homocide) 
occurs in
MY neighborhood (18th District), and the less-violent occurs in the 
area right
around Penn (17th District). There was even an aggravated assault 
listed at my
address in December!
Penn is in the 18th District, not the 17th.
The 18th extends from Cobbs Creek to the River, south of Market to 
Baltimore.
(North of Market is the 16th.)

The 17th is east of the Schuylkill River to Broad street (South of 
Lombard to Moore).

The University of Pennsylvania Police have an arrangement with the 18th 
District to patrol the area west to 43rd street. (The University of 
Pennsylvania Police are a "sworn force," and one of the largest in the 
Commonwealth.

If you want to know the boundaries of the various districts, they are 
here. Also on that page is a link to the "contact" page, which has the 
address and phone numbers of each district headquaters.

http://www.ppdonline.org/ops/ops_districts.php

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] Museum picture

[Jayfar]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Paul Grossman wrote:

> Here is a picture of the demolition of the museum building next to the
> convention center.  Sorry for the quality.  I happened to notice that it
> was being knocked down as I was walking by and took a pic with my camera
> phone.  It makes me angry to see something like this happen but I guess
> that is "progress."
> 
> http://mail.med.upenn.edu/~grossmap/Museumdemo.jpg

Here's some photos from happier days in November. Photos of Convention
Hall and the Museum in this PhillyBlog thread:

http://phillyblog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6838

and here's a nice shot of the Commercial Museum, just a few days before 
they first began exterior demolition in November:

http://jayfar.com/civicctrmuseum.5095.jpg

While the museum is essentially a lost cause at this point, the Committee
to Save Convention Hall is pressing on to make certain the same fate won't
befall Convention Hall. BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP. These demolitions are not
progress by any reasonable measure. Please contact our elected officials
and ask them to intercede with Penn. Writing or calling directly is a good
idea, but for your convenience we also have a fax bank through which you
can reach out to two dozen elected representatives by submitting a single
letter online.

http://www.hallwatch.org/faxbank/conventionhall/

You'll find further background info on the fax bank page and still more at 
http://PhilaDeco.com

Please stand up and demand respect for Philadelphia's history.

Cheers,
Jay "Jayfar" Farrell
Committee to Save Convention Hall
-- 

PhilaDeco.com

http://PhilaDeco.com  AIM: PhilaDeco

Committee to Save Convention Hall fax bank
http://www.hallwatch.org/faxbank/conventionhall/



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Re: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Wilma de Soto]

Actually, the area around Penn is still the 18th District.

The 17th Police District is in the Point Breeze area of South Philadelphia,
unless the have restructured the Police Districts.

Correct me please if I have spoken in error.

-Wilma


On 1/13/05 4:28 PM, "Susan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Funny how all of the really violent crime (robbery/assault/homocide) occurs in
> MY neighborhood (18th District), and the less-violent occurs in the area right
> around Penn (17th District). There was even an aggravated assault listed at my
> address in December!
> 
> sj
> Susan Jacobson
> Assistant Professor
> Dept. of Broadcasting & Telecom
> Temple University
> http://countlessstories.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: [UC] Re: Dear Ross, "Just When You Thought It Was Safe..."

[Wilma de Soto]

My Dear "Stealth Mennonite" Herr Bender,

I, as always, anxiously await your recount of the uncensored TRUE saga of
how the UC listserv came to be.

However, please do not discount its humble origins as was stated in the post
I sent to the listserv. (ergo, "Don't diss me!)

They are as true as your committee with Melanie, Jeff, and you doing
whatever in your backyard with your twenty-foot clawfoot hot tub.

Thank you so much for posting the recent statistics of new subscribers.

Still, the grass roots SHCA e-mail lists (as Melanie attested to and
embellished) gave birth to that which we are all still arguing about thanks
to you and Jeff. 

Would a Phillip Glass fan steer you wrong?  So, here I sit behind these Iron
Bars.

Gute Nacht Mein Finest Liebe, Gute Nacht Schlaf Wohl Mein Kind.

Wilma


On 1/12/05 8:02 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks, Mel, for that more accurate recap of the UC List history which in a
> more scintillating fashion records your seminal role in the creation of this
> cantankerous neighborhood institution.
> 
> Actually, however, while the list undergoes a continual purging process of the
> more refined old ladies, who constantly threaten to cancel their subscriptions
> due to the SHOCKING content purveyed herein, UC List today registered a
> glorious high of 299 subscribers, a sort of orgasmic peak in recorded history.
> So remember that one lady`s tasteless crap is frequently another man`s
> ineffably refined vichysoisse.
> 
> Someday, if I am begged sufficiently, I shall recount the uncensored TRUE saga
> of the genesis of UC List. Warning -- not for cute, pink virginal ears,
> involving as it does the sordid details of how Melani, Jeff and I, while
> blissfully inhaling hashish in my luxurious backyard twenty-foot clawfoot hot
> tub, originated in a brainstorm the concept of an electronic chat list which
> would bring neighbors closer, develop community spirit, raise real estate
> prices, and aid in the totally awesome mindblowing sex lives which our
> neighbors in the hood enjoy today.



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[UC] Re: your font?

[BAShowell]

Do Glaucoma and Cataracts qualify as eye problems?
In Arial or Times New Roman it is easier to read at 10, however, try Bradley Hand TC at 10 and see if you can read it.

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[BAShowell]

Is she the "official" Block Captain, elected by the neighbors and registered with the city, or a self-imposed "boss"?

RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Mario Giorno]

Title: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity





Susan,


    Before I log off today, welcome to the UC listserve,Susan. It's been nice seeing you chime in.



Mario


-Original Message-
From: Susan Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:29 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity



Funny how all of the really violent crime (robbery/assault/homocide) occurs in 
MY neighborhood (18th District), and the less-violent occurs in the area right 
around Penn (17th District). There was even an aggravated assault listed at my 
address in December!


sj
Susan Jacobson
Assistant Professor
Dept. of Broadcasting & Telecom
Temple University
http://countlessstories.com
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[UC] De Sales Night date alert!! February, 26, 8:00 PM-Midnight - mark your calendar

[TateMcH]

Dear neighbors,
Those of you in the know have been clamoring for information about De Sales Night.  For those uninitiated, De Sales Night is the annual dinner dance sponsored by St. Francis de Sales Parish.  It is a neighborhood tradition dating back to 1908!  Always a sell out event, you will want to mark your calendars, put the babysitters on notice, and get your tickets early.  Tickets will go on sale Sunday, January 23.  Here's the scoop
 
De Sales Night
 
Under the Sea
 
Saturday, February 26, 2005
8:00 PM - Midnight
St. Francis de Sales School Hall
47th St. above Springfield Avenue
 
$35 per person
 
Ticket price includes a full dinner buffet catered by Abbraccio Restaurant, open bar, elegant setting and dancing to our favorite band "Second Vision".  A special treat?  Check out Second Vision performing at last year's De Sales Night at www.2ndVision.com  You can listen to their sound and if you click on "Watch us perform" you may see some familiar faces.  Enjoy!  
 
Tickets are available via e-mail at:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tickets may also be purchased at the St. Francis de Sales Rectory, 9:00 am - 6:00 pm, Monday through Friday beginning January 24.
 
Hope to see you there!
Maureen Tate
De Sales Night Committee
 
 

RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Susan Jacobson]

Funny how all of the really violent crime (robbery/assault/homocide) occurs in 
MY neighborhood (18th District), and the less-violent occurs in the area right 
around Penn (17th District). There was even an aggravated assault listed at my 
address in December!

sj
Susan Jacobson
Assistant Professor
Dept. of Broadcasting & Telecom
Temple University
http://countlessstories.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [UC] Relocating to Philadelphia

[BGAndersen]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=562&u=/ap/20050112/ap_on_hi_te/cyberbullies&printer=1

 
N.Y. County Tackles 'Cyberbullying' 

Wed Jan 12, 8:23 AM ET 

By JIM FITZGERALD, Associated Press Writer 

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. - Westchester County has hired an expert on "cyberbullying" 
to talk to students, teachers, parents and police about young people who harass 
their peers with mean-spirited Web sites, hounding text messages, invasive 
cell-phone photos and other high-tech tools. 

Parry Aftab, executive director of wiredsafety.org, will conduct a "summit" on 
the issue Feb. 8 at the Westchester County Center, County Executive Andrew 
Spano announced Tuesday. 

She will be assisted by Spider-Man under an arrangement between her 
organization and Marvel Enterprises Inc. "Kids will listen to him," she said, 
pointing at a man in a Spidey outfit during a news conference. 

Aftab said that while schoolyard bullying has always been a problem among young 
teenagers, "We didn't have the power to communicate what we were doing to 700 
million people with a click." 

Aftab, whose organization is headquartered in Irvington, said examples of 
cyberbullying include "a Web site where children can vote for the ugliest, most 
unpopular or fattest girl in the school. It can involve sending private or very 
personal information or images to others or posting them online for the public 
to see. It can be annoying but otherwise harmless â or it can be dangerous, 
such as when it involves stalking and pornography." 

Spano said a key issue in dealing with such problems is how to involve law 
enforcement without violating free speech rights, especially since much of the 
harassment is generated at home rather than at school. 

"Kids, parents and schools need to know when to ignore it â just as 
schoolyard bullies are sometimes best ignored â and when to report it to law 
enforcement," he said. 

Last year, a video of two Scarsdale high school girls engaging in a sexual 
encounter was widely distributed on the Internet and no charges resulted. In 
2001, two Chappaqua high school boys escaped prosecution for allegedly 
operating an Internet site that listed girls' sexual secrets. 

"No matter how offensive or how repulsive the communications were between these 
boys, they are protected by the First Amendment," District Attorney Jeanine 
Pirro said at the time.

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RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity






http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/crimes-index.html


Funny how what we'd seen as "man robbed and then shot in the face" is only reported by the almanac as "robbery".


I don't know whether there's an epidemic of purse snatchings or shootings.


Thanks, john, for your efforts to get better crime reporting.


Kyle

RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[John Ellingsworth]

The Cedar Park Neighbors has developed a Crime & Safety committee to help 
address the concerns of residents regarding crime.
(I am on the committee.)

It is my hope that we can facilitate better communication about safety issues
in the neighborhood, and particularly, a method of disseminating information
about criminal activity in the neighborhood and what neighbors can do to 
prevent it.

For those of you with thoughts about this issue, I'd recommend coming to 
one of the upcoming meetings.  I will post the dates when I have them 
available.

One source of information on recent crime is from the Almanac (although it 
is far from complete, and oftentimes crimes are not listed - the Almanac 
says they post what they receive from the police):

http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/crimes-index.html
Thanks
John Ellingsworth

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RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Jonathan Cass]

Title: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity



When I 
lived in East Falls and there was an up tick in crime (usually of the petty 
property type as opposed to the Wild, Wild West shoot-em up, "everybody get 
on the ground" variety that goes on in the UC 'hood), the local community group 
would get in touch with the Captain for the local police district and have 
him (it was always a male) come to a community meeting to explain what the 
Police Department was doing to address the problem.  It was reassuring 
to the community and seemed to make the District concentrate its resources in 
the area to address the problem.
 
I am 
curious, do any the local UC community groups follow a similar strategy?  
If this isn't being done, I  think that the 'hood needs to start making 
some noise both to J.B.'s office and the local police districts in order to 
apply pressure so that they will increase/redirect police resources to address 
what appears to be, at the very least, a short terms increase in serious crime 
in the area.  It seems to me that these "crime waves" tend to be cyclical 
and usually caused by a small number of the criminal element. Once they are 
caught and locked up, things quiet down until the next 
cycle.
Jonathan A. Cass -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kyle 
CassidySent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:50 PMTo: Mario 
Giorno; 'Victor Fiorillo'; 'univcity@list.purple.com'Subject: RE: 
[UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

  this was a topic of discussion several days ago here -- it 
  seems that anticdotally crime has skyrocketed -- however, i suspect that at 
  least SOME (hopefully MOST) of that is because we're all talking to one 
  another about it -- previously my only exposure to how much crime was going on 
  in UC (with the exception of personal experience at the point of a gun) was 
  whatever the DP chose to report -- were that the case now, i'd have no idea of 
  the gun embattled hell-hole that is 46th and hazel. i think maybe we just hear 
  more about crime now.
  but i second the motion (which i made a couple of days ago 
  too) that i want to hear MORE from the police about what's going on in my 
  neighborhood. i want to hear, specifically, RESOLUTIONS -- someone was shot in 
  the face? was anybody arrested? when's the court date? were they convited? 
  have other similar crimes occurred?
  AND i freakin want a police scanner that works. 
  Christy and I were watching t.v. a couple days ago when we 
  heard a gunshot that sounded like it came from the area of the super 7. "was 
  that a gunshot?" she asked. about 30 seconds later, sirens. "must have been a 
  gunshot" i said -- but i have no idea what's going on -- should i be worred? 
  is there a mugger running around shooting people? or was it some guy shooting 
  a tin can in his back yard?
  kyle 
  -Original Message- From: Mario 
  Giorno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:41 PM 
  To: 'Victor Fiorillo'; 'univcity@list.purple.com' 
  Subject: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity 
  Folks,     I'm feeling what Victor's 
  feeling. Empirically, it seems like the crime level in UC has down and back up 
  within about 5 years. Does anyone know where we can get crime statistics for 
  the area? Either from the UC police, UCD or any other persons or 
  organizations?
  Thanks in advnace, 
  Mario Giorno Communications Research 
  Technician ASC/APPC University 
  of Pennsylvania 3620 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  -Original Message- From: 
  Victor Fiorillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:22 PM 
  To: univcity@list.purple.com Subject: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity 
  So is it my imagination or is crime on the increase in our 
  neighborhood?  It seems like when I moved in, things had become more 
  chill, but I've been hearing about a lot of incidents lately.
  Anyone know anything official about the crime rate? 
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RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity





this was a topic of discussion several days ago here -- it seems that anticdotally crime has skyrocketed -- however, i suspect that at least SOME (hopefully MOST) of that is because we're all talking to one another about it -- previously my only exposure to how much crime was going on in UC (with the exception of personal experience at the point of a gun) was whatever the DP chose to report -- were that the case now, i'd have no idea of the gun embattled hell-hole that is 46th and hazel. i think maybe we just hear more about crime now.

but i second the motion (which i made a couple of days ago too) that i want to hear MORE from the police about what's going on in my neighborhood. i want to hear, specifically, RESOLUTIONS -- someone was shot in the face? was anybody arrested? when's the court date? were they convited? have other similar crimes occurred?

AND i freakin want a police scanner that works.


Christy and I were watching t.v. a couple days ago when we heard a gunshot that sounded like it came from the area of the super 7. "was that a gunshot?" she asked. about 30 seconds later, sirens. "must have been a gunshot" i said -- but i have no idea what's going on -- should i be worred? is there a mugger running around shooting people? or was it some guy shooting a tin can in his back yard?

kyle


-Original Message-
From: Mario Giorno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:41 PM
To: 'Victor Fiorillo'; 'univcity@list.purple.com'
Subject: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity



Folks, 
    I'm feeling what Victor's feeling. Empirically, it seems like the crime level in UC has down and back up within about 5 years. Does anyone know where we can get crime statistics for the area? Either from the UC police, UCD or any other persons or organizations?

Thanks in advnace, 



Mario Giorno 
Communications Research Technician 
ASC/APPC 
University of Pennsylvania 
3620 Walnut Street 
Philadelphia, PA 19104 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message- 
From: Victor Fiorillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:22 PM 
To: univcity@list.purple.com 
Subject: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity 



So is it my imagination or is crime on the increase in our neighborhood?  It seems like when I moved in, things had become more chill, but I've been hearing about a lot of incidents lately.

Anyone know anything official about the crime rate? 
 
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[UC] Museum picture

[Paul Grossman]

Here is a picture of the demolition of the museum 
building next to the convention center.  Sorry for the quality.  I 
happened to notice that it was being knocked down as I was walking by and 
took a pic with my camera phone.  It makes me angry to see something like 
this happen but I guess that is "progress."
 
http://mail.med.upenn.edu/~grossmap/Museumdemo.jpg
 
_Paul 
GrossmanIT Support SpecialistSchool of Medicine Information 
ServicesUniversity of Pennsylvania3620 Hamilton Walk/ 410 Anatomy 
Chemistry BuildingPhiladelphia, PA 19104215.898.7817[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Mario Giorno]

Title: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity





Folks,


    I'm feeling what Victor's feeling. Empirically, it seems like the crime level in UC has down and back up within about 5 years. Does anyone know where we can get crime statistics for the area? Either from the UC police, UCD or any other persons or organizations?

Thanks in advnace,



Mario Giorno
Communications Research Technician
ASC/APPC
University of Pennsylvania
3620 Walnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Victor Fiorillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:22 PM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity



So is it my imagination or is crime on the increase in our neighborhood?  It seems like when I moved in, things had become more chill, but I've been hearing about a lot of incidents lately.

Anyone know anything official about the crime rate?



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[UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity

[Victor Fiorillo]

So is it my imagination or is crime on the increase in our neighborhood?  It
seems like when I moved in, things had become more chill, but I've been
hearing about a lot of incidents lately.

Anyone know anything official about the crime rate?


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Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[BAShowell]

Great Danes are Cat and people/children friendly. there is not a "mean" bone in their body. The myth about "fighting like cats and dogs" does not apply to The Great Danes, or a lot of otherbreeds for that matter. I have raised both dogs and cats, together. In fact our last dog had a "pet cat".

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Ben]

At 02:15 PM 1/13/2005, Susan Jacobson wrote:
But what if the Great Dane eats my cat?
You save on one meals worth of dog food and much more on the price of cat 
products?

-ben 


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Re: [UC] Shopping at Penn (where to buy socks)

[BAShowell]

Actually Foreman Mills is at 49th and Market Streets, and the neighbors from 47th to 51st St. were furious when it moved in after tearing down houses, etc. and not notifying the Homeowners, Residents, etc. that it was coming.
they saw it as an affront to their neighborhood!

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Susan Jacobson]

But what if the Great Dane eats my cat?

sj

 Original message 
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:55:22 EST
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>Subject: Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars  
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
>
>   I agree with you Lizand I think the bars are
>   ugly, especially on these old houses
>   and for smoke alarms, motion, someone trying to get
>   in, etc. the best, most proven alarm system is a
>   dog, a big one, like an apartment/ house  friendly
>   Great Dane!
>   Imagine one burgular's face (or underpants) when he
>   cut through the screen of the open kitchen window at
>   2 A.M. and came face to face with a Great Dane!
>   Beth
Susan Jacobson
Assistant Professor
Dept. of Broadcasting & Telecom
Temple University
http://countlessstories.com
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Re: [UC] Shopping at Penn (where to buy socks)

[BAShowell]

It is really too bad that Penn Students feel this way, and that the University still continues to scare them.
There are many Temple Students in the area, and they haven't been told how dangerous we are. ( My graduate degrees were earned at Penn, and I have been in my house WEST OF 48th STREET, EVEN for 381/2 years.}
West of 40th Street, even 44th Street, is SAFER, CHEAPER and FRENDLIER than east of 40th Street, or Center city for that matter!

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[William H. Magill]

On 13 Jan, 2005, at 11:08, Kyle Cassidy wrote:
I do want to get bars on the windows asap -- I'm spending a fortune in 
ammo.
The Fire Marshal would rather you spend the money on ammo.
The Police would rather you spend it on window bars.
"Effective" window bars are not "Fire Code compliant" in Philadelphia.
The Fire Department considers them a major impediment to rescuing 
people in the event of a fire, especially since those on the inside can 
rarely open them to escape in an emergency.  (Oh dear, the keys to the 
padlock are in the drawer in the kitchen where the fire started!) They 
are also a potential "trap" for Fire personnel who would also be unable 
to escape in a timely manner.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[BAShowell]

 I agree with you Lizand I think the bars are ugly, especially on these old houses
and for smoke alarms, motion, someone trying to get in, etc. the best, most proven alarm system is a dog, a big one, like an apartment/ house  friendly Great Dane!
Imagine one burgular's face (or underpants) when he cut through the screen of the open kitchen window at 2 A.M. and came face to face with a Great Dane!
Beth

Re: [UC] AOL's little secret

[William H. Magill]

On 13 Jan, 2005, at 10:19, Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:
I think it's less of an "ignoring" of existing customers and more of a
business strategy.
"Correct-o-mundo" -- it's called "disintermediation."
This is a technical term from the financial community:
"Withdrawal of funds from intermediary financial institutions, such as 
banks and savings and loan associations, in order to invest in 
instruments yielding a higher return at the same institution."

This the reason why things like CDs or cell-phone contracts have all 
kinds of "early termination" penalties.

This same premise applies to the income stream of any business.
A new customer attracted because of a lower price is new income, but an 
existing customer who pays less represents a loss of income.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] AOL's little secret

[William H. Magill]

On 13 Jan, 2005, at 09:13, Mark Krull wrote:
A friend of mine at work is on AOL. For 4 years she had been paying 
$23.95 per month for her service. She was having the $23.95 taken out 
of her credit card.
AOL never mentioned that she could have paid $17.95 per month for the 
SAME service if she committed for a year. All she did was tell them 
over the phone.  She was NEVER told of this savings option.  She LOST 
over $200 over the last 4 years. She found out from a friend.
Umm. Glad I am not with AOL
This "tactic" is not unique to AOL. Virtually any "service" will allow 
you to pay whatever you want for as long as you will put up with it. 
They rarely, if ever communicate anything to their existing customers 
which will cause them to pay less.

Banks are notorious for this.
Most all employers are the same way -- they often pay the new hire more 
than "loyal" employees, who have been there for multiple years, simply 
because that is the "current market rate."  The high-tech world was 
rampant with this through the 70s, 80s and 90s -- if you wanted a 
raise, you got a new job. This is the primary reason why employers get 
really upset when employees compare wages.

T.T.F.N.
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Re: [UC] Shopping at Penn (where to buy socks)

[William H. Magill]

On 13 Jan, 2005, at 07:21, Kyle Cassidy wrote:
that's what i used to think, until i discovered Forman Mills at the 
corner of 48th and walnut. it's no Target, but there are 
socks-a-plenty. and inexpensively.

not that i wouldn't be tickled pink of the block north west of 46th, 
currently being bulldozed, turned into a target.
Neither location much matters.
Penn Students are still terrified of going west of 40th street for 
anything.
The neighborhood is far to violent for them.  (I'd say integrated, but 
that wouldn't be PC.)
That's why the students petitioned for a Grocery Store at 40th and 
Walnut -- "on campus," so they wouldn't have to walk through the 
neighborhood and encounter the neighbors.

the author also has a point about all the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] drug stores. any more 
and this neighborhood's going to collapse in on itself.
What was it George Carlin used to say?  D R U G S ! ! !
Ignoring George however, these "drug stores," are really anything but.
They may have started out their corporate existence selling drugs, but 
today their product lines have expanded dramatically. Virtually every 
one of them in the area sells significant amounts of food items, both 
staples -- milk and cereal, toilet paper and trash bags -- as well as 
junk food -- soda, chips, dip and candy. At many you can even buy 
things like motor oil, not to mention seasonal decorations, greeting 
cards and bicycles. About the only thing they don't sell is "hot food 
to go," but otherwise they are much closer to a 7-11, Wawa, or 
"mini-mart" - a "convenience store."

These "drug stores" are the "mom and pop" "variety" stores of today. 
And while they might be corporate brand names, many are owned and 
operated by a local franchisee, not a corporate employee, just like 
McDonalds.

T.T.F.N.
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RE: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Iron Security Bars





better than coming back and finding that a band of burglars has moved in and has been putting their cigarettes out on your ottomans.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Diller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:18 PM
To: Naomi; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars



We had them on our house when we bought it. My wife and I have talked about removing them, but it sure feels nice to leave town for a few weeks and have those suckers on the house

I like South Philly.

RE: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Alison McDowell]

I work in this area, but
live in Fairmount where few homes, if any have iron bars.  In my experience, most of the buildings
with bars in our neighborhood are owned by absentee landlords.  That said, most (not all) of the crime
reported is theft from auto rather than robbery.

 



Alison McDowell

Bartram’s Garden



 

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Subject: Re: [UC] Iron Security
Bars

 



BGAndersen
wrote:





 





I
thought the neighborhood had evolved enough that ugly iron bars were no longer
necessary ...





 





Really? 
I'm trying to think of any neighborhood where bars aren't necessary, ast least
as a deterrant.  They are in Center City, they are in South Philly, they
are just about everywhere.





 





There
weren't bars on all the windows of the first floor of this house when we
moved in.  Bars were put up over all the windows after someone cut the
screen and tried climbing into the dining room in the middle of the night.





 





Then
bars were put on the front door after someone tried to attack my roommate,
punching through the thick beveled glass on the door as she was standing inside
the entryway.





 





Bars
are an unfortunate necessity of life in just about any urban area, or even
not-so-urban.   They're much more effective/efficient than an alarm
system, IMHO.





 





Wendy

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Elizabeth F. Campion]

My family choose to remove the bars.

We thought about our stuff being stolen and compared it to the risks of
people or pets being trapped inside during a fire and decided that the
stuff can be replaced, and for stuff, insurance is meaningful.
But, there is no amount of money that would totally replace the loss of
either child.

In the dark, terrifying, breathlessness of smoke and fire, even easy open
bars could pose a deadly challenge to a panicked family member.  Our
dogs, who might be home alone when the fire broke out, would not be able
to squeeze between bars sized to keep humans out.

Our houses are 100 years old.
Most of them have the original beveled glass.
Where it is missing, it is as likely to have been harvested by a
collector or broken during careless passage or furniture moving as it is
to have been broken by a burglar.

For those who remain fearful, alarms can now track
Heat,
Smoke,
Opening of Doors or windows
Breaking of Glass and even
Motion.

I do however love some of the newer Artisan gates that discourage
loiterers and opportunists.
My favorite is on 44th between Larchwood and Osage.

I am satisfied that our part of West Philadelphia provides the best
combination of beauty, security and convenience, available in the Tri-
State area.

All the best!

Liz

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:49 -0500 Andrew Diller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> We had them on our house when we bought it. My wife and I have talked 
> about
> removing them, but it sure feels nice to leave town for a few weeks 
> and have
> those suckers on the house
> 
> I like South Philly.
> 
> 
> On 1/13/05 10:43 AM, "Naomi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building 
> recently.
> > We¹ve been getting bids but they seem to be radically different in 
> pricing
> > for, what seems to me, the same job. I¹m trying to not get taken ­ 
> especially
> > as many companies are asking for 50% down.
> > 
> 
> -andy


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[UC] Yehuda Neal - Missing teen - Update

[Elizabeth F. Campion]

I have been trying to get through to Yehuda's mother, Susan Neal, to
confirm details, but here is the day 9 update.

Last night she called to tell me that Yehuda has been found, in Arizona.
He finally called her, asking for help, and she claimed that he admitted
to having been out of food and money for the last three days, and to
sleeping alone, outside for the last two.
She was trying to raise money to fly him back home.  
I suggested she take steps to be certain that he would have to use the
money for transportation, as he has already defrauded several neighbors
out of $20.00 each, and his statements could be a ploy to get funds to
continue the "adventure".
Susan is convinced that he is tired, hungry and a lot wiser, and ready to
come home.
I mentioned my worries to another neighbor, one smarter than myself, and
she said one solution would be to have Yehuda surrender himself to the
police who could put him on a nonstop flight to Philadelphia.
But, I have not been able to get back to Susan (her line has been either
busy or no answer at each attempt, with no message machine).

So, in addition to all the fear and worry that Yehuda has caused her,
this single mother now has to cover the costs of rescuing her kid, by way
of a last minute purchase of a plane  ticket.
John Fenton, of UCD, who has been a source of good advice and coordinated
many eyes for the local search has suggested that this may be a situation
in which the charity "Traveler's Aid" might help out.
If not, I'll loan Yehuda at least some of the money (through his mom) and
give him the chance to "work off" the debt.
I can't see giving him a complete pass on the worry he has caused.
On the up side, I know his absence had me talking more to my kids and to
the kids with whom I volunteer.

I will send another update if there is any definitive rescue of Yehuda.

Meanwhile, I guess that if we see him in the neighborhood, we 
welcome him back, 
thank God and the basic decency of most people 
(that he survived his stupidity) and 
encourage his family to resolve the issues that led to his flight.

Thank you all for looking and caring.
He is basically a smart and wonderful kid and hopefully he will find
better ways to handle unhappiness.

Best in 2005!
Liz



On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:42:37 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hey Liz,
> 
> I heard there was good news.
> 
> bga
> 
> In a message dated 1/7/2005 09:58:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> "Elizabeth F. Campion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >Yehuda Alhaadi Neal is only 16 (born 8/18/88) but he is 6'4" tall so
> >might pass for older.
> >He is a good looking kid, with a slender, athletic build and size 14
> >shoes.
> >His skin tone is a medium brown and he has short black hair, 
> beautiful
> >eyes and a great smile.
> >He has a round scar (from acne?) on his forehead.
> >He recently obtained a tattoo of Christ on his left forearm.
> >
> >He is an intelligent boy and a good athlete.
> >In elementary school (SFDS) he did well at track and basketball.
> >He continued with basketball as a high school freshman.
> >He is generally very quiet and polite.
> >
> >He has been missing since Monday evening, 1/3/2005.
> >His mother and sisters, Jessica and Jennifer, are growing 
> progressively
> >more worried.
> >Recently Yehuda seems to have been struggling in the process of
> >separating himself from his all female family.
> >
> >It is very likely that Yehuda "ran away".
> >He was recently transferred to West Phila High School and was not
> >entirely happy with the change.  On Monday, he "borrowed" $20 from 
> each
> >of several friends plus an army-green knap sack from another.  He 
> took
> >most of his favorite clothes and the cell phone he obtained by 
> working
> >after school.  He did not take his asthma medicine, and his mother 
> fears
> >he may be in denial about the need for it.  For months he has been
> >expressing a desire to "go to California".  
> >Misunderstandings notwithstanding, Yehuda is missed.
> >
> >A "Missing Persons" Police Report has been filed.
> >Yehuda's mom, Susan Neal, lives at 48th and Cedar.
> >She asked me to post this notice to our neighborhood lists.
> >She thinks he may be hiding out, locally, with the help of friends.
> >I think that true friends might want to protect themselves and 
> Yehuda by
> >dialing 911 and engaging a cycle of help for this boy and his 
> family. 
> >Other than the recent lies that he used to borrow money from willing
> >friends, there is no suggestion of any crime or drugs.  But, there 
> may be
> >indications of depression, frustration and fear, emotions that 
> should be
> >addressed.
> >
> >Yehuda is a good kid and a lot of people want the reassurance of 
> his safe
> >return.
> >His mom and the police are trying to determine how much money he 
> had (how
> >far can he go, how long can he eat?).  So, if you gave him money 
> (earned
> >or lent), please let them know.  If you heard or hear anything 
> about his
> >p

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Naomi]

Title: Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars



I also think “neighborhood” is a loose term. I’m moving from a place with bars on the windows at 44th & Baltimore to a place with no bars on 50th & Catharine (off Baltimore). It’s roughly the same neighborhood, but not really.  And I’m an over-precautious safety freak. But the neighbors (that I’ve met so far) are really nice long-term residents.

Naomi


on 1/13/05 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought the neighborhood had evolved enough that ugly iron bars were no longer necessary ...


In a message dated 1/13/2005 11:43:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

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>Just get a dog and encourage him or her to bark at (note: not attack)
>intruders. You get a lovable companion without having to detract from your
>exterior aesthetic or feeling like a prisoner in your own house.
>
>Dogs naturally bark at "intruders" to alert the alpha dog (i.e. you) to
>"come check this out." When my dogs bark, I make a point of getting up to
>look at whatever they are barking at. Regardless of whether it's anything
>to worry about or not (usually not -- mail carrier putting things through
>the mail slot is a big one), I make a point of praising them for letting me
>know about it. I've never had a problem with continuous barking for no
>reason, because they settle down once I go look, satisfied they've done
>their job.
>
>As a result, I never wonder about noises in the house at night if the dogs
>aren't worked up about them.
>
>Jon
>
>Kyle Cassidy wrote:
>
>| steven fisher's pal james is a metal sculptor who's buying a welding kit
>| -- he said he'd be interested in making security bars for me, maybe if
>| there were three or four of us willing to have a go at it all at once we
>| could convince him that now is the time to start making bars.
>|
>| we were taking bids on our house and the prices were all over the place
>| and all over the place in a very high direction. james' off hand quote
>| was the most reasonable, but he's yet to fine tune it.
>|
>| I do want to get bars on the windows asap -- I'm spending a fortune in
>| ammo.
>|
>| -Original Message-
>| From: Naomi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>| Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:44 AM
>| To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
>| Subject: [UC] Iron Security Bars
>|
>|
>| Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building
>| recently. We've been getting bids but they seem to be radically
>| different in pricing for, what seems to me, the same job. I'm trying to
>| not get taken - especially as many companies are asking for 50% down.
>|
>| Any advice or price estimates welcome. (We're doing the first floor (10
>| windows) and 4 basement windows.) I know it's all dependant on how large
>| the windows are, which decorative elements we select, etc. I'm just
>| looking for a ball park estimate that others have paid for something
>| similar and if anyone has had a really good or bad experience with a
>| particular company.
>|
>| Thanks!
>|
>| Naomi
>|
>| White Dog Cafe
>| 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
>| http://www.whitedog.com
>| (215) 386-9224 x105
>|
>| The Black Cat Gift Shop
>| 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
>| http://www.blackcatshop.com
>|
>
>- --
>Jon Moore
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3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    

The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Andrew Diller]

Title: Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars



We had them on our house when we bought it. My wife and I have talked about removing them, but it sure feels nice to leave town for a few weeks and have those suckers on the house

I like South Philly.


On 1/13/05 10:43 AM, "Naomi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building recently. We’ve been getting bids but they seem to be radically different in pricing for, what seems to me, the same job. I’m trying to not get taken – especially as many companies are asking for 50% down. 


-andy

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Shaera]

BGAndersen wrote:
 
I thought the neighborhood had evolved enough that ugly iron bars were no 
longer necessary ...
 
Really?  I'm trying to think of any neighborhood where bars aren't 
necessary, ast least as a deterrant.  They are in Center City, they are in 
South Philly, they are just about everywhere.
 
There weren't bars on all the windows of the first floor of this house 
when we moved in.  Bars were put up over all the windows after someone cut 
the screen and tried climbing into the dining room in the middle of the 
night.
 
Then bars were put on the front door after someone tried to attack my 
roommate, punching through the thick beveled glass on the door as she was 
standing inside the entryway.
 
Bars are an unfortunate necessity of life in just about any urban area, or 
even not-so-urban.   They're much more effective/efficient than an 
alarm system, IMHO.
 
Wendy

RE: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Iron Security Bars







>I thought the neighborhood had evolved enough that ugly iron 
>bars were no longer necessary ...


Yes. We're gentrified now. We get custom artisian bars made by successful sculptors.


Ugly iron bars are so ... South Philly.



kc

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Naomi]

Title: Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars



I would love to go the dog route but my allergies say otherwise. Maybe someday that will change.

Thanks!

Naomi



on 1/13/05 11:43 AM, Jon Moore at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Just get a dog and encourage him or her to bark at (note: not attack)
intruders. You get a lovable companion without having to detract from your
exterior aesthetic or feeling like a prisoner in your own house.

Dogs naturally bark at "intruders" to alert the alpha dog (i.e. you) to
"come check this out." When my dogs bark, I make a point of getting up to
look at whatever they are barking at. Regardless of whether it's anything
to worry about or not (usually not -- mail carrier putting things through
the mail slot is a big one), I make a point of praising them for letting me
know about it. I've never had a problem with continuous barking for no
reason, because they settle down once I go look, satisfied they've done
their job.

As a result, I never wonder about noises in the house at night if the dogs
aren't worked up about them.

Jon

Kyle Cassidy wrote:

| steven fisher's pal james is a metal sculptor who's buying a welding kit
| -- he said he'd be interested in making security bars for me, maybe if
| there were three or four of us willing to have a go at it all at once we
| could convince him that now is the time to start making bars.
|
| we were taking bids on our house and the prices were all over the place
| and all over the place in a very high direction. james' off hand quote
| was the most reasonable, but he's yet to fine tune it.
|
| I do want to get bars on the windows asap -- I'm spending a fortune in
| ammo.
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Naomi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:44 AM
| To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
| Subject: [UC] Iron Security Bars
|
|
| Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building
| recently. We've been getting bids but they seem to be radically
| different in pricing for, what seems to me, the same job. I'm trying to
| not get taken - especially as many companies are asking for 50% down.
|
| Any advice or price estimates welcome. (We're doing the first floor (10
| windows) and 4 basement windows.) I know it's all dependant on how large
| the windows are, which decorative elements we select, etc. I'm just
| looking for a ball park estimate that others have paid for something
| similar and if anyone has had a really good or bad experience with a
| particular company.
|
| Thanks!
|
| Naomi
|
| White Dog Cafe
| 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
| http://www.whitedog.com
| (215) 386-9224 x105
|
| The Black Cat Gift Shop
| 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
| http://www.blackcatshop.com
|

- --
Jon Moore
"The church is near but the road is icy; the bar is far away but I'll walk
carefully." (Russian Proverb)
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White Dog Cafe   
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    

The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com

Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[KAREN ALLEN]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:54:35 -0500
I thought the neighborhood had evolved enough that ugly iron bars were no 
longer necessary ...

We had.  Unfortunately, nobody told that to the burglars and theives.
Karen Allen

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[UC] Armed robberies at cosi and Mad 4 Mex

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: Armed robberies at cosi  and Mad 4 Mex 





Nobody'd mentioned this, but on Jan 11th the DP reported that both Cosi and Mad 4 Mex had been robbed in the "everybody down on the floor or I'm going to riddle you with bullets" sort of way, netting almost $9,000.

The DP reported yesterday that two people had been arrested in connection with the Mad 4 Mex robbery though there is no indication that it was related to the Cosi robbery.

http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/41e38a40a965e?in_archive=1
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/41e4c8a015bf2?in_archive=1


Kyle -- right in the heart of crime central 36th and walnut

[UC] New and Some Questions

[Susan Jacobson]

Hi there,

I'm new to the list and pretty new to West Philly - I moved here in August. I 
have 
a couple of questions:

* I went to the Clark Park Festival in August and somehow wound up on the 
mailing list of something called the African People's Solidarity Committee. I 
recently received a snail from them that said one of their former members was 
arrested, and the cops took his computer - on which the mailing list for the 
African People's Solidarity Committee was stored! The letter really didn't give 
any details about what happened. Should I, like, be concerned about this? 
Should I be asking Arlen Specter to take my name off of some kind newly 
created Washington blacklist?? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

* Where do you go to get your cat's teeth cleaned, and how much does it cost??

* Are there any other academics on this list? I am looking for people to 
commiserate with vis-a-vis writing papers for citation-tracked, peer-reviewed 
journals. 

Thanks for your help. As a friendly gesture - I have some gmail invites, if 
anyone would like one. Send me an e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sincerely,
Susan Jacobson
Assistant Professor
Dept. of Broadcasting & Telecom
Temple University
http://countlessstories.com
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Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[BGAndersen]

I thought the neighborhood had evolved enough that ugly iron bars were no 
longer necessary ...


In a message dated 1/13/2005 11:43:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jon Moore 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>Hash: SHA1
>
>Just get a dog and encourage him or her to bark at (note: not attack)
>intruders. You get a lovable companion without having to detract from your
>exterior aesthetic or feeling like a prisoner in your own house.
>
>Dogs naturally bark at "intruders" to alert the alpha dog (i.e. you) to
>"come check this out." When my dogs bark, I make a point of getting up to
>look at whatever they are barking at. Regardless of whether it's anything
>to worry about or not (usually not -- mail carrier putting things through
>the mail slot is a big one), I make a point of praising them for letting me
>know about it. I've never had a problem with continuous barking for no
>reason, because they settle down once I go look, satisfied they've done
>their job.
>
>As a result, I never wonder about noises in the house at night if the dogs
>aren't worked up about them.
>
>Jon
>
>Kyle Cassidy wrote:
>
>| steven fisher's pal james is a metal sculptor who's buying a welding kit
>| -- he said he'd be interested in making security bars for me, maybe if
>| there were three or four of us willing to have a go at it all at once we
>| could convince him that now is the time to start making bars.
>|
>| we were taking bids on our house and the prices were all over the place
>| and all over the place in a very high direction. james' off hand quote
>| was the most reasonable, but he's yet to fine tune it.
>|
>| I do want to get bars on the windows asap -- I'm spending a fortune in
>| ammo.
>|
>| -Original Message-
>| From: Naomi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>| Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:44 AM
>| To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
>| Subject: [UC] Iron Security Bars
>|
>|
>| Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building
>| recently. We've been getting bids but they seem to be radically
>| different in pricing for, what seems to me, the same job. I'm trying to
>| not get taken - especially as many companies are asking for 50% down.
>|
>| Any advice or price estimates welcome. (We're doing the first floor (10
>| windows) and 4 basement windows.) I know it's all dependant on how large
>| the windows are, which decorative elements we select, etc. I'm just
>| looking for a ball park estimate that others have paid for something
>| similar and if anyone has had a really good or bad experience with a
>| particular company.
>|
>| Thanks!
>|
>| Naomi
>|
>| White Dog Cafe
>| 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
>| http://www.whitedog.com
>| (215) 386-9224 x105
>|
>| The Black Cat Gift Shop
>| 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
>| http://www.blackcatshop.com
>|
>
>- --
>Jon Moore
>"The church is near but the road is icy; the bar is far away but I'll walk
>carefully." (Russian Proverb)
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Re: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Jon Moore]

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Hash: SHA1
Just get a dog and encourage him or her to bark at (note: not attack)
intruders. You get a lovable companion without having to detract from your
exterior aesthetic or feeling like a prisoner in your own house.
Dogs naturally bark at "intruders" to alert the alpha dog (i.e. you) to
"come check this out." When my dogs bark, I make a point of getting up to
look at whatever they are barking at. Regardless of whether it's anything
to worry about or not (usually not -- mail carrier putting things through
the mail slot is a big one), I make a point of praising them for letting me
know about it. I've never had a problem with continuous barking for no
reason, because they settle down once I go look, satisfied they've done
their job.
As a result, I never wonder about noises in the house at night if the dogs
aren't worked up about them.
Jon
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
| steven fisher's pal james is a metal sculptor who's buying a welding kit
| -- he said he'd be interested in making security bars for me, maybe if
| there were three or four of us willing to have a go at it all at once we
| could convince him that now is the time to start making bars.
|
| we were taking bids on our house and the prices were all over the place
| and all over the place in a very high direction. james' off hand quote
| was the most reasonable, but he's yet to fine tune it.
|
| I do want to get bars on the windows asap -- I'm spending a fortune in
| ammo.
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Naomi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:44 AM
| To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
| Subject: [UC] Iron Security Bars
|
|
| Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building
| recently. We've been getting bids but they seem to be radically
| different in pricing for, what seems to me, the same job. I'm trying to
| not get taken - especially as many companies are asking for 50% down.
|
| Any advice or price estimates welcome. (We're doing the first floor (10
| windows) and 4 basement windows.) I know it's all dependant on how large
| the windows are, which decorative elements we select, etc. I'm just
| looking for a ball park estimate that others have paid for something
| similar and if anyone has had a really good or bad experience with a
| particular company.
|
| Thanks!
|
| Naomi
|
| White Dog Cafe
| 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
| http://www.whitedog.com
| (215) 386-9224 x105
|
| The Black Cat Gift Shop
| 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
| http://www.blackcatshop.com
|
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Re: [UC] Yehuda Neal - Missing teen - Photo available upon request

[BGAndersen]

Hey Liz,

I heard there was good news.

bga

In a message dated 1/7/2005 09:58:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Elizabeth F. 
Campion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>PLEASE PARDON DUPLICATES.  THIS post was REJECTED FROM SOME LISTS BECAUSE
>OF a PHOTO ATTACHMENT.  IF ANYONE WANTS A PHOTO OF YEHUDA, PLEASE REPLY
>PRIVATELY.
>
>Yehuda Alhaadi Neal is only 16 (born 8/18/88) but he is 6'4" tall so
>might pass for older.
>He is a good looking kid, with a slender, athletic build and size 14
>shoes.
>His skin tone is a medium brown and he has short black hair, beautiful
>eyes and a great smile.
>He has a round scar (from acne?) on his forehead.
>He recently obtained a tattoo of Christ on his left forearm.
>
>He is an intelligent boy and a good athlete.
>In elementary school (SFDS) he did well at track and basketball.
>He continued with basketball as a high school freshman.
>He is generally very quiet and polite.
>
>He has been missing since Monday evening, 1/3/2005.
>His mother and sisters, Jessica and Jennifer, are growing progressively
>more worried.
>Recently Yehuda seems to have been struggling in the process of
>separating himself from his all female family.
>
>It is very likely that Yehuda "ran away".
>He was recently transferred to West Phila High School and was not
>entirely happy with the change.  On Monday, he "borrowed" $20 from each
>of several friends plus an army-green knap sack from another.  He took
>most of his favorite clothes and the cell phone he obtained by working
>after school.  He did not take his asthma medicine, and his mother fears
>he may be in denial about the need for it.  For months he has been
>expressing a desire to "go to California".  
>Misunderstandings notwithstanding, Yehuda is missed.
>
>A "Missing Persons" Police Report has been filed.
>Yehuda's mom, Susan Neal, lives at 48th and Cedar.
>She asked me to post this notice to our neighborhood lists.
>She thinks he may be hiding out, locally, with the help of friends.
>I think that true friends might want to protect themselves and Yehuda by
>dialing 911 and engaging a cycle of help for this boy and his family. 
>Other than the recent lies that he used to borrow money from willing
>friends, there is no suggestion of any crime or drugs.  But, there may be
>indications of depression, frustration and fear, emotions that should be
>addressed.
>
>Yehuda is a good kid and a lot of people want the reassurance of his safe
>return.
>His mom and the police are trying to determine how much money he had (how
>far can he go, how long can he eat?).  So, if you gave him money (earned
>or lent), please let them know.  If you heard or hear anything about his
>plans or motives, please share the information with his mother and the
>police.  If you see him or know where he is, please share the information
>with proper authorities.
>
>I apologize for sending the attachment to all, but this is a good child
>who may be headed for trouble, and if he is recognized and helped, wasted
>digital memory is a minor worry.
>
>And, if you can do nothing else, please keep Yehuda and his family in
>your prayers.
>Susan and her family are active in their church.
>
>Thank you for any help that you can offer.
>
>Liz

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RE: [UC] Iron Security Bars

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Iron Security Bars





steven fisher's pal james is a metal sculptor who's buying a welding kit -- he said he'd be interested in making security bars for me, maybe if there were three or four of us willing to have a go at it all at once we could convince him that now is the time to start making bars. 

we were taking bids on our house and the prices were all over the place and all over the place in a very high direction. james' off hand quote was the most reasonable, but he's yet to fine tune it.

I do want to get bars on the windows asap -- I'm spending a fortune in ammo.


-Original Message-
From: Naomi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:44 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Iron Security Bars



Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building recently. We've been getting bids but they seem to be radically different in pricing for, what seems to me, the same job. I'm trying to not get taken - especially as many companies are asking for 50% down. 

Any advice or price estimates welcome. (We're doing the first floor (10 windows) and 4 basement windows.) I know it's all dependant on how large the windows are, which decorative elements we select, etc. I'm just looking for a ball park estimate that others have paid for something similar and if anyone has had a really good or bad experience with a particular company.

Thanks!


Naomi


White Dog Cafe   
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    


The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com

[UC] Iron Security Bars

[Naomi]

Title: Iron Security Bars



Has anyone installed Iron Security bars on their home or building recently. We’ve been getting bids but they seem to be radically different in pricing for, what seems to me, the same job. I’m trying to not get taken – especially as many companies are asking for 50% down. 

Any advice or price estimates welcome. (We’re doing the first floor (10 windows) and 4 basement windows.) I know it’s all dependant on how large the windows are, which decorative elements we select, etc. I’m just looking for a ball park estimate that others have paid for something similar and if anyone has had a really good or bad experience with a particular company.

Thanks!

Naomi

White Dog Cafe   
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    

The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com

Re: [UC] AOL's little secret

[Samuel Nicolary]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Stephen Fisher wrote:

> Actually the same also goes in terms of DSL speeds.  When Verizon increased
> their DSL upload/download speeds then didn't bother to upgrade their existing
> customers to the faster speeds.  I told my uncle to call (I use cable
> internet), and sure enough they increased his DSL speed.  It's really
> unfortunate that you have to ask and that you have to waste time watching for
> these things to even know when to ask.  It seems companies are so focused on
> gaining new customers they seem to forget about their existing customers.

I agree it is nice when a company has a policy of offerring/reducing 
subscription fees when their fees change to pre-existing subscribers but 
you can't knock a company for not doing it.  As a comsumer, the onus 
should be on you to have to seek out the best rates.  It is one step above 
the indignity of having to haggle at least.

I definitely wouldn't consider this any dirty little secret.  Call up your 
cell phone carrier and tell them you are going to cancel your service - it 
is more likely than not that they will offer you a better deal than what 
you have presently.  Should they call you up and offer you a better deal 
without said scenario taking place?  That costs a lot of money for 
probably less profit - doesn't make business sense to me - maybe in a 
world where it didn't matter whether your company was profitable or not it 
would make sense.

--
Sam Nicolary

> Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:
> 
> > FYI, this is true for a lot of companies these days.  Here are two
> > examples:
> > 
> > 1) When I signed up for Verizon DSL, the rate was $34.95 per month.
> > They later lowered it to $29.95 per month, but they would have happily
> > let me go on paying the higher rate.  I called up one day and said, "can
> > I pay $29.95 instead?" and they said, "Yes, ok," and changed it.  I
> > guess you have to ask.
> > 
> > 2) I bought a ticket on Jet Blue recently and the next week the price
> > dropped on the same ticket.  I called up and said, "Oops, I bought it
> > before and it was more expensive, can I pay less?" and they say, "Yes, I
> > guess so," and gave me a credit for the difference.
> > 
> > I really don't know why it is that way these days, but I get the sense
> > that in general, people will let you pay whatever you are paying and
> > that's that.  But if you call up and ask, for some reason they respond.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ELISABETH DUBIN
> > Hillier ARCHITECTURE
> > One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F
> > 215 636-9989 | hillier.com
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Krull
> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:13 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
> > Subject: [UC] AOL's little secret
> > 
> > A friend of mine at work is on AOL. For 4 years she had been paying
> > $23.95 per month for her service. She was having the $23.95 taken out of
> > her credit card.
> > AOL never mentioned that she could have paid $17.95 per month for the
> > SAME service if she committed for a year. All she did was tell them over
> > the phone.  She was NEVER told of this savings option.  She LOST over
> > $200 over the last 4 years. She found out from a friend.
> > Umm. Glad I am not with AOL
> > -Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: [UC] Corporate Commitment to a Region, two views

[Jonathan Cass]

It is 
not only a problem with the people running the government, it is the 
difference in the corporate culture between Microsoft and 
Comcast.
 
Jonathan A. Cass 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of CraigSent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:04 
  AMTo: univcity@list.purple.comSubject: [UC] Corporate 
  Commitment to a Region, two viewsHere is an interesting comparison between Phila & 
  Redmond, and Comcast and MicrosoftMS establishes a development 
  agreement with the city, including regulatory terms for the development and 
  infrastructure. And, Microsoft commits up to $30 million for local 
  transportation and infrastructure improvements.Talk about shared 
  visions, corporate/community commitment, and win win strategies. Regardless of 
  your political leanings, do we all see a big problem with the people running 
  our government in Philadelphia?In Philly we all deserve better than 
  what we are currently getting.Ciao,Craig
  
  Microsoft plans 
  to add 12,000 employees at Redmond campusWednesday, January 
  12th 2005 
  Microsoft Corp. said it plans to expand its Redmond headquarters campus by 
  about 2 million square feet over the next 10 to 20 years, making room for up 
  to 12,000 additional employees. 
  Microsoft's headquarters already is one of the biggest corporate campuses 
  in the world at 8 million square feet. The company (NASDAQ: MSFT) said the 
  first new building included in the development plan filed with the city would 
  be ready for occupancy by 2007. 
  The software maker now employs 28,000 workers in the Puget Sound region, 
  compared to about 30,000 in other locations around the world. The company 
  plans to hire up to 7,000 employees this fiscal year, about 3,000 locally. 

  "The fact that Microsoft intends to pursue a development agreement with the 
  city indicates to us that it intends to grow in a planned and thoughtful way 
  and that its commitment to Redmond is a strong one," Redmond Mayor Rosemary 
  Ives said in a statement. 
  The development agreement doesn't outline specific building sites, but sets 
  regulatory terms for the development and defines related enhancements to local 
  highways and other infrastructure. 
  Microsoft said the agreement commits the company to up to $30 million for 
  local transportation and infrastructure improvements. 
  The filing "reflects the spirit of collaboration between Microsoft and the 
  city of Redmond and further underscores our commitment to the Puget Sound 
  region and to Washington state," said Brad Smith, Microsoft senior vice 
  president. 
  Microsoft moved its headquarters to Redmond in 1986, and has seen the 
  city's population increase by more than 30 percent to more than 46,000. During 
  that time, the city's per-capita income increased by more than 60 percent, and 
  now exceeds $66,000, according to the 2000 census. More than 10 percent of 
  Redmond's residents are Microsoft employees, the company 
  estimates.
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Re: [UC] AOL's little secret

[Stephen Fisher]

Actually the same also goes in terms of DSL speeds.  When Verizon 
increased their DSL upload/download speeds then didn't bother to upgrade 
their existing customers to the faster speeds.  I told my uncle to call 
(I use cable internet), and sure enough they increased his DSL speed.  
It's really unfortunate that you have to ask and that you have to waste 
time watching for these things to even know when to ask.  It seems 
companies are so focused on gaining new customers they seem to forget 
about their existing customers.

Happy warm Thursday,
Stephen
Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:
FYI, this is true for a lot of companies these days.  Here are two
examples:
1) When I signed up for Verizon DSL, the rate was $34.95 per month.
They later lowered it to $29.95 per month, but they would have happily
let me go on paying the higher rate.  I called up one day and said, "can
I pay $29.95 instead?" and they said, "Yes, ok," and changed it.  I
guess you have to ask.
2) I bought a ticket on Jet Blue recently and the next week the price
dropped on the same ticket.  I called up and said, "Oops, I bought it
before and it was more expensive, can I pay less?" and they say, "Yes, I
guess so," and gave me a credit for the difference.
I really don't know why it is that way these days, but I get the sense
that in general, people will let you pay whatever you are paying and
that's that.  But if you call up and ask, for some reason they respond.

ELISABETH DUBIN
Hillier ARCHITECTURE
One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F
215 636-9989 | hillier.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Krull
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] AOL's little secret
A friend of mine at work is on AOL. For 4 years she had been paying
$23.95 per month for her service. She was having the $23.95 taken out of
her credit card.
AOL never mentioned that she could have paid $17.95 per month for the
SAME service if she committed for a year. All she did was tell them over
the phone.  She was NEVER told of this savings option.  She LOST over
$200 over the last 4 years. She found out from a friend.
Umm. Glad I am not with AOL
-Mark


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RE: [UC] AOL's little secret

[Dubin, Elisabeth]

I think it's less of an "ignoring" of existing customers and more of a
business strategy.
 


ELISABETH DUBIN
Hillier ARCHITECTURE
One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F
215 636-9989 | hillier.com

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:21 AM
To: Dubin, Elisabeth
Cc: Mark Krull; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] AOL's little secret

Actually the same also goes in terms of DSL speeds.  When Verizon
increased their DSL upload/download speeds then didn't bother to upgrade
their existing customers to the faster speeds.  I told my uncle to call
(I use cable internet), and sure enough they increased his DSL speed.  
It's really unfortunate that you have to ask and that you have to waste
time watching for these things to even know when to ask.  It seems
companies are so focused on gaining new customers they seem to forget
about their existing customers.

Happy warm Thursday,
Stephen


Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:

>FYI, this is true for a lot of companies these days.  Here are two
>examples:
>
>1) When I signed up for Verizon DSL, the rate was $34.95 per month.
>They later lowered it to $29.95 per month, but they would have happily 
>let me go on paying the higher rate.  I called up one day and said, 
>"can I pay $29.95 instead?" and they said, "Yes, ok," and changed it.  
>I guess you have to ask.
>
>2) I bought a ticket on Jet Blue recently and the next week the price 
>dropped on the same ticket.  I called up and said, "Oops, I bought it 
>before and it was more expensive, can I pay less?" and they say, "Yes, 
>I guess so," and gave me a credit for the difference.
>
>I really don't know why it is that way these days, but I get the sense 
>that in general, people will let you pay whatever you are paying and 
>that's that.  But if you call up and ask, for some reason they respond.
>
>
>
>ELISABETH DUBIN
>Hillier ARCHITECTURE
>One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F
>215 636-9989 | hillier.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Krull
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:13 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
>Subject: [UC] AOL's little secret
>
>A friend of mine at work is on AOL. For 4 years she had been paying
>$23.95 per month for her service. She was having the $23.95 taken out 
>of her credit card.
>AOL never mentioned that she could have paid $17.95 per month for the 
>SAME service if she committed for a year. All she did was tell them 
>over the phone.  She was NEVER told of this savings option.  She LOST 
>over $200 over the last 4 years. She found out from a friend.
>Umm. Glad I am not with AOL
>-Mark
>
> 
>
>
>
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[UC] Corporate Commitment to a Region, two views

[Craig]

Here is an interesting
comparison between Phila & Redmond, and Comcast and Microsoft

MS establishes a development agreement with the city, including
regulatory terms for the development and infrastructure. And, Microsoft
commits up to $30 million for local transportation and infrastructure
improvements.

Talk about shared visions, corporate/community commitment, and win win
strategies. Regardless of your political leanings, do we all see a big
problem with the people running our government in Philadelphia?

In Philly we all deserve better than what we are currently getting.

Ciao,

Craig


Microsoft
plans to add 12,000 employees at Redmond campus
Wednesday,
January 12th 2005
Microsoft Corp. said it plans to expand its Redmond headquarters
campus by about 2 million square feet over the next 10 to 20 years,
making room for up to 12,000 additional employees. 
Microsoft's headquarters already is one of the biggest corporate
campuses in the world at 8 million square feet. The company (NASDAQ:
MSFT) said the first new building included in the development plan
filed with the city would be ready for occupancy by 2007. 
The software maker now employs 28,000 workers in the Puget Sound
region, compared to about 30,000 in other locations around the world.
The company plans to hire up to 7,000 employees this fiscal year, about
3,000 locally. 
"The fact that Microsoft intends to pursue a development agreement
with the city indicates to us that it intends to grow in a planned and
thoughtful way and that its commitment to Redmond is a strong one,"
Redmond Mayor Rosemary Ives said in a statement. 
The development agreement doesn't outline specific building sites,
but sets regulatory terms for the development and defines related
enhancements to local highways and other infrastructure. 
Microsoft said the agreement commits the company to up to $30
million for local transportation and infrastructure improvements. 
The filing "reflects the spirit of collaboration between Microsoft
and the city of Redmond and further underscores our commitment to the
Puget Sound region and to Washington state," said Brad Smith, Microsoft
senior vice president. 
Microsoft moved its headquarters to Redmond in 1986, and has seen
the city's population increase by more than 30 percent to more than
46,000. During that time, the city's per-capita income increased by
more than 60 percent, and now exceeds $66,000, according to the 2000
census. More than 10 percent of Redmond's residents are Microsoft
employees, the company estimates.


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RE: [UC] AOL's little secret

[Dubin, Elisabeth]

FYI, this is true for a lot of companies these days.  Here are two
examples:

1) When I signed up for Verizon DSL, the rate was $34.95 per month.
They later lowered it to $29.95 per month, but they would have happily
let me go on paying the higher rate.  I called up one day and said, "can
I pay $29.95 instead?" and they said, "Yes, ok," and changed it.  I
guess you have to ask.

2) I bought a ticket on Jet Blue recently and the next week the price
dropped on the same ticket.  I called up and said, "Oops, I bought it
before and it was more expensive, can I pay less?" and they say, "Yes, I
guess so," and gave me a credit for the difference.

I really don't know why it is that way these days, but I get the sense
that in general, people will let you pay whatever you are paying and
that's that.  But if you call up and ask, for some reason they respond.



ELISABETH DUBIN
Hillier ARCHITECTURE
One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F
215 636-9989 | hillier.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Krull
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] AOL's little secret

A friend of mine at work is on AOL. For 4 years she had been paying
$23.95 per month for her service. She was having the $23.95 taken out of
her credit card.
AOL never mentioned that she could have paid $17.95 per month for the
SAME service if she committed for a year. All she did was tell them over
the phone.  She was NEVER told of this savings option.  She LOST over
$200 over the last 4 years. She found out from a friend.
Umm. Glad I am not with AOL
-Mark

 



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[UC] AOL's little secret

[Mark Krull]

A friend of mine at work is on AOL. For 4 years she had been paying $23.95 per 
month for her service. She
was having the $23.95 taken out of her credit card.
AOL never mentioned that she could have paid $17.95 per month for the SAME 
service if she
committed for a year. All she did was tell them over the phone.  She was NEVER 
told of this
savings option.  She LOST over $200 over the last 4 years. She found out from a 
friend.
Umm. Glad I am not with AOL
-Mark

 



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Re: [UC] dog run/FOCP

[Craig]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 1/12/2005, 3:22 AM:


.. Not
since the antics of William Zardus have I grown to loathe seeing
someone's email show up in my inbox. 
  
.. the PSFNI list at least tries to verify that the
subscribers are actually people and not whack jobs. 
  
.. I was grateful to see Zardus stop posting, and wish you would
join him.

The wise grieve neither for the living nor for the dead. There has
never been a time when you and I and the kings gathered here have not
existed, nor will there be a time when we will cease to exist. As the
same person inhabits the body through childhood, youth, and old age, so
too at the time of death he attains another body. The wise are not
deluded by these changes.

-Bhagavad
Gita 2:12-13

Be merciful, Ted
Kennedy still haunts the face of God's good earth.

Ciao.

Craig

PS: Trying out new e-mail
software; let me know if anything visually is quirky. Thanks





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RE: [UC] Shopping at Penn (where to buy socks)

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Shopping at Penn (where to buy socks)





that's what i used to think, until i discovered Forman Mills at the corner of 48th and walnut. it's no Target, but there are socks-a-plenty. and inexpensively.

not that i wouldn't be tickled pink of the block north west of 46th, currently being bulldozed, turned into a target. 

the author also has a point about all the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] drug stores. any more and this neighborhood's going to collapse in on itself.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Krull
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: 1/13/2005 6:25 AM
Subject: [UC] Shopping at Penn


Good morning!!
Saw this article and thought the student made a good point
-Mark
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/41e4c9051fd1f?in_a
rchive=1





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[UC] Shopping at Penn

[Mark Krull]

Good morning!!
Saw this article and thought the student made a good point
-Mark
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/41e4c9051fd1f?in_archive=1




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