Re:[uportal-dev] Two New Project JASIG/ESUP

[Jonathan Markow]

Thank you, Alain, and greetings to the project managers who are named
below.  We are very interested in the work you are doing!

We have had a brief email dialog with Frédéric Ravetier today, in response
to my earlier email.  Jen Bourey, who has been working closely with the
uPortal 3.2 mobile framework, will be discussing the 3.2 mobile architecture
some more on our mailing lists when she is finished with her holiday
traveling.

Arnaud, it is good to hear that you are continuing your Grouper work since
you have moved to AIX Marseilles 3.  I don't know if you are familiar with
the work that Chris Hyzer and Jen have been doing with Grouper and
uPortal...?

Brigitte, we are interested in the CMS/uPortal project, too.  Perhaps you
could tell us something about this project and describe the scope of work?

It would probably be helpful if people would respond in separate email
threads so we can keep better track of the separate topics.

Thanks again to all.  We look forward to discussing opportunities to
collaborate with you on this work.

Best,
Jonathan


On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Alain Mayeur <
alain.may...@univ-valenciennes.fr> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan
>
> As we have spoken during our last call, we have  discussed at our last
> coordination meeting ( November, 8) of such projects for
> which we can try to develop a collaboration.
>
> I give the contacts for project managers:
>
> ESUP-Mobile: Francis Forbeau et Xavier Petard
>
> CMS/ U-Portal: Brigitte Sor;
>
> The project ESUP-Portail with "grouper" is coordinated by Arnaud Deman, who
> is now at AIX Marseilles 3 University
>
>
> Alain
>
>
> Écouter
> Le 22 nov. 10 à 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :
>
> I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP Portail,
> the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have developed a
> "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of other open source
> applications that they have developed or integrated.  Alain told me about
> two projects currently underway that are of interest to Jasig.
>
> The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project.  With several participating
> universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of
> mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2.  The wiki
> page for the project (in French) is located at
> http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.
>
> A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several
> organizations, is designed to enhance the content management capabilities of
> uPortal.
>
> Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about these
> initiatives.  I am hoping there might be some areas in which Jasig
> developers would be able to contribute.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>  ___
>
>
>
>
> Alain Mayeur
> Directeur
> Direction des Systèmes d'Information
> Université de Valenciennes et du Hainaut-Cambrésis
> Le Mont Houy
> 59313 Valenciennes cedex 9
>
> Tél: 03-27-51-11-35
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Jen Bourey]

Hi Frederic,

It's great to hear from you, and I'm looking forward to Jasig and Esup Portail 
collaborating on mobile development.  I've been involved in both the mobile 
theme development for uPortal, as well as some of the mobile portlet 
development.  I'm traveling for the holidays today, but I'll try to compose a 
summary of what I know of the current state of mobile support in uPortal trunk, 
as well as some of the changes we've talked about making.

- Jen


On Nov 22, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at 
> Anyware-Services.
> We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet to 
> display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS). 
> Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real difficulty 
> to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal is to have a 
> multi-channel portlet (available to display data on mobile and desktop).
> 
> Our strategy is:
> 1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on JSF)
> 2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the user is 
> using a mobile or a desktop browser
> 3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection (mobile to 
> use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF taglib)
> 4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.
> 
> The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to maintain. In 
> this case we will reduce our constraints and we will use another taglib to 
> render data to mobile. We already think about Trinidad. If you have 
> suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to avoid framework or library that 
> are only webkit compatible, because we'd like to support many mobile browsers 
> and not only iphone and smartphone. It is a wish that can be reduce depending 
> on the complexity and the maintainability.
> 
> Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile developers 
> that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles.
> 
> We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt on step 
> 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP that support CAS 
> here.
> 
> Do you have suggestions?
> Do you have others informations?
> Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or to share 
> some knowledge.
> 
> Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop (Calendar, 
> Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)
> 
> Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Frédéric Ravetier
> Project Manager
> Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)
> frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com
> Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03
> Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org
> 
> 
> Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :
>> 
>> I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP Portail, 
>> the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have developed a 
>> "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of other open source 
>> applications that they have developed or integrated.  Alain told me about 
>> two projects currently underway that are of interest to Jasig.
>> 
>> The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project.  With several participating 
>> universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of 
>> mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2.  The wiki 
>> page for the project (in French) is located at 
>> http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.
>> 
>> A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several 
>> organizations, is designed to enhance the content management capabilities of 
>> uPortal.  
>> 
>> Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about these 
>> initiatives.  I am hoping there might be some areas in which Jasig 
>> developers would be able to contribute.
>> 
>> -Jonathan
>> 
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Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Frédéric Ravetier]

  
  
So you have to maintain a list of user-agent that is already done in
the WURFL library. I think it would be interesting to extend this
library on use a second list of user-agent to have dedicated JSP in
some specific cases.

How is generated the code for mobile? because there are so many
browser that is is hard to write XHTML/WML code in one JSP
compatible for all the handsets!. This is why we want to use WNG
taglib. This taglib generate the code depending on the mobile. It
takes into account a lot of parameters like the size of the screen,
the doctype... in order to generate a valid code for the browser of
the handset. It avoid to hard code the XHTML tags.

Regards,
Fred

Le 22/11/2010 18:28, Drew Wills a écrit :
The
  current work for mobile in Jasig Portlets uses the same tools
  & frameworks as the non-mobile interfaces:  Spring Portlet
  MVC, JSP/JSTL/EL, jQuery.
  
  
  The best portlets (for mobile) have dedicated mobile screens --
  separate JSPs designed to suit mobile devices.  In our controlers,
  we look at the user agent String and choose which JSPs to render
  based on it.
  
  
  drew wills
  
  
  On 11/22/2010 9:55 AM, Cris J Holdorph wrote:
  
  It is a question, because no other Jasig
project, currently in Jasig

subversion, uses JSF to my knowledge. So it's harder to share

code/techniques between any existing Jasig work and this
project.


There is a lot of work already done for Mobile in Jasig, but not
of it

uses or works with JSF. I'll let someone who is more familiar
with the

current Jasig mobile work comment on what was used.


 Cris J H


On 11/22/2010 09:46 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

It is not really a choice, we have to
  use it because most of the
  
  existing portlets used by the ESUP community are based on JSF.
  And
  
  because we will have to enhance some of them to add the mobile
  view we
  
  have to do with it. In this way the people working on this
  community
  
  will be able to follow our guideline to enhance them portlets.
  Obviously
  
  if it is a big problem to add mobile view we will have to
  suggest them
  
  something else.
  
  
  Otherwise we would have choice something else because it is
  not our
  
  favorite Framework.
  
  
  Why this question?
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Fred
  
  
  
  
  Le 22/11/2010 17:05, Cris J Holdorph a écrit :
  
  Can you describe why you want to use
JSF?


 Cris J H


On 11/22/2010 08:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

Hello,
  
  
  I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project",
  working at
  
  Anyware-Services.
  
  We started the development last week. Our first portlet is
  a portlet to
  
  display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under
  CAS).
  
  Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is
  a real
  
  difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF).
  Also the goal is
  
  to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data
  on mobile
  
  and
  
  desktop).
  
  
  Our strategy is:
  
  1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin
  (based on
  
  JSF)
  
  2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect
  if the user
  
  is using a mobile or a desktop browser
  
  3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the
  detection
  
  (mobile
  
  to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic
  JSF taglib)
  
  4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.
  
  
  The last step may failed or may be too hard or too
  complicate to
  
  maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and
  we will use
  

Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Drew Wills]

The current work for mobile in Jasig Portlets uses the same tools & 
frameworks as the non-mobile interfaces:  Spring Portlet MVC, 
JSP/JSTL/EL, jQuery.


The best portlets (for mobile) have dedicated mobile screens -- separate 
JSPs designed to suit mobile devices.  In our controlers, we look at the 
user agent String and choose which JSPs to render based on it.


drew wills

On 11/22/2010 9:55 AM, Cris J Holdorph wrote:

It is a question, because no other Jasig project, currently in Jasig
subversion, uses JSF to my knowledge. So it's harder to share
code/techniques between any existing Jasig work and this project.

There is a lot of work already done for Mobile in Jasig, but not of it
uses or works with JSF. I'll let someone who is more familiar with the
current Jasig mobile work comment on what was used.

 Cris J H

On 11/22/2010 09:46 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

It is not really a choice, we have to use it because most of the
existing portlets used by the ESUP community are based on JSF. And
because we will have to enhance some of them to add the mobile view we
have to do with it. In this way the people working on this community
will be able to follow our guideline to enhance them portlets. Obviously
if it is a big problem to add mobile view we will have to suggest them
something else.

Otherwise we would have choice something else because it is not our
favorite Framework.

Why this question?

Regards,
Fred



Le 22/11/2010 17:05, Cris J Holdorph a écrit :

Can you describe why you want to use JSF?

 Cris J H

On 11/22/2010 08:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

Hello,

I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at
Anyware-Services.
We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet to
display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS).
Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real
difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal is
to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on mobile
and
desktop).

Our strategy is:
1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on
JSF)
2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the user
is using a mobile or a desktop browser
3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection
(mobile
to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF taglib)
4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.

The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to
maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and we will use
another taglib to render data to mobile. We already think about
Trinidad. If you have suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to avoid
framework or library that are only webkit compatible, because we'd like
to support many mobile browsers and not only iphone and smartphone. It
is a wish that can be reduce depending on the complexity and the
maintainability.

Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile
developers that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles.

We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt on
step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP that
support CAS here.

Do you have suggestions?
Do you have others informations?
Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or to
share some knowledge.

Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop
(Calendar, Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)

Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one.

Sincerely,

Frédéric Ravetier
Project Manager
Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)
frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com
Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03
Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org


Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :

I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP
Portail, the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have
developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of
other open source applications that they have developed or integrated.
Alain told me about two projects currently underway that are of
interest to Jasig.

The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project. With several participating
universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of
mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2. The
wiki page for the project (in French) is located at
http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.

A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several
organizations, is designed to enhance the content management
capabilities of uPortal.

Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about
these initiatives. I am hoping there might be some areas in which
Jasig developers would be able to contribute.

-Jonathan

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Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Frédéric Ravetier]

  
  
Ok thank you I will be interested to have some information about
your knowledge. 

Anyway do you use WURFL and WNG taglib?
At least the filter can be shared because it has nothing to do with
JSF. It is Java classes based on WURFL.

For your information: ESUP is based on ESUP-commons
I am translating the beginning of this page:
http://www.esup-portail.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1867791:
"Description
Esup-commons is the framework to develop application of the
consortium ESUP-Portal.
It is based on Spring, JSF and Ibatis/Hibernate. It propose many
services  to help the developer with a methodology to develop."
So it is highly suggested to us to follow the recommendations made
by the consortium.

They are going to have a new version of esup-commons (V2) that is
still based on JSF.


Regards,
Fred

PS: It is more than 6pm on this side of the Atlantic so I will leave
the office in this hour.

Le 22/11/2010 17:55, Cris J Holdorph a écrit :
It is
  a question, because no other Jasig project, currently in Jasig
  subversion, uses JSF to my knowledge.  So it's harder to share
  code/techniques between any existing Jasig work and this project.
  
  
  There is a lot of work already done for Mobile in Jasig, but not
  of it uses or works with JSF.  I'll let someone who is more
  familiar with the current Jasig mobile work comment on what was
  used.
  
  
   Cris J H
  
  
  On 11/22/2010 09:46 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
  
  It is not really a choice, we have to use
it because most of the

existing portlets used by the ESUP community are based on JSF.
And

because we will have to enhance some of them to add the mobile
view we

have to do with it. In this way the people working on this
community

will be able to follow our guideline to enhance them portlets.
Obviously

if it is a big problem to add mobile view we will have to
suggest them

something else.


Otherwise we would have choice something else because it is not
our

favorite Framework.


Why this question?


Regards,

Fred




Le 22/11/2010 17:05, Cris J Holdorph a écrit :

Can you describe why you want to use
  JSF?
  
  
   Cris J H
  
  
  On 11/22/2010 08:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
  
  Hello,


I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project",
working at

Anyware-Services.

We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a
portlet to

display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under
CAS).

Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a
real

difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also
the goal is

to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data
on mobile and

desktop).


Our strategy is:

1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin
(based on

JSF)

2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect
if the user

is using a mobile or a desktop browser

3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the
detection (mobile

to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic
JSF taglib)

4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.


The last step may failed or may be too hard or too
complicate to

maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and we
will use

another taglib to render data to mobile. We already think
about

Trinidad. If you have suggestion I am open to them. We'd
like to avoid

framework or library that are only webkit compatible,
because we'd like

to support many mobile browsers and not only iphone and
smartphone. It

is a wish that can be reduce depending on the complexity and
the

maintainability.

Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Cris J Holdorph]

It is a question, because no other Jasig project, currently in Jasig 
subversion, uses JSF to my knowledge.  So it's harder to share 
code/techniques between any existing Jasig work and this project.


There is a lot of work already done for Mobile in Jasig, but not of it 
uses or works with JSF.  I'll let someone who is more familiar with the 
current Jasig mobile work comment on what was used.


 Cris J H

On 11/22/2010 09:46 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

It is not really a choice, we have to use it because most of the
existing portlets used by the ESUP community are based on JSF. And
because we will have to enhance some of them to add the mobile view we
have to do with it. In this way the people working on this community
will be able to follow our guideline to enhance them portlets. Obviously
if it is a big problem to add mobile view we will have to suggest them
something else.

Otherwise we would have choice something else because it is not our
favorite Framework.

Why this question?

Regards,
Fred



Le 22/11/2010 17:05, Cris J Holdorph a écrit :

Can you describe why you want to use JSF?

 Cris J H

On 11/22/2010 08:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

Hello,

I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at
Anyware-Services.
We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet to
display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS).
Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real
difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal is
to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on mobile and
desktop).

Our strategy is:
1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on
JSF)
2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the user
is using a mobile or a desktop browser
3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection (mobile
to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF taglib)
4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.

The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to
maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and we will use
another taglib to render data to mobile. We already think about
Trinidad. If you have suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to avoid
framework or library that are only webkit compatible, because we'd like
to support many mobile browsers and not only iphone and smartphone. It
is a wish that can be reduce depending on the complexity and the
maintainability.

Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile
developers that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles.

We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt on
step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP that
support CAS here.

Do you have suggestions?
Do you have others informations?
Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or to
share some knowledge.

Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop
(Calendar, Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)

Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one.

Sincerely,

Frédéric Ravetier
Project Manager
Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)
frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com
Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03
Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org


Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :

I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP
Portail, the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have
developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of
other open source applications that they have developed or integrated.
Alain told me about two projects currently underway that are of
interest to Jasig.

The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project. With several participating
universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of
mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2. The
wiki page for the project (in French) is located at
http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.

A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several
organizations, is designed to enhance the content management
capabilities of uPortal.

Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about
these initiatives. I am hoping there might be some areas in which
Jasig developers would be able to contribute.

-Jonathan

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Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Frédéric Ravetier]

  
  
It is not really a choice, we have to use it because most of the
existing portlets used by the ESUP community are based on JSF. And
because we will have to enhance some of them to add the mobile view
we have to do with it. In this way the people working on this
community will be able to follow our guideline to enhance them
portlets. Obviously if it is a big problem to add mobile view we
will have to suggest them something else. 

Otherwise we would have choice something else because it is not our
favorite Framework. 

Why this question?

Regards,
Fred



Le 22/11/2010 17:05, Cris J Holdorph a écrit :
Can
  you describe why you want to use JSF?
  
  
   Cris J H
  
  
  On 11/22/2010 08:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
  
  Hello,


I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working
at

Anyware-Services.

We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a
portlet to

display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS).

Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a
real

difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the
goal is

to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on
mobile and

desktop).


Our strategy is:

1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin
(based on JSF)

2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if
the user

is using a mobile or a desktop browser

3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection
(mobile

to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF
taglib)

4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.


The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to

maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and we
will use

another taglib to render data to mobile. We already think about

Trinidad. If you have suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to
avoid

framework or library that are only webkit compatible, because
we'd like

to support many mobile browsers and not only iphone and
smartphone. It

is a wish that can be reduce depending on the complexity and the

maintainability.


Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile

developers that want a real compatibility with most of the
mobiles.


We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small
doubt on

step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP
that

support CAS here.


Do you have suggestions?

Do you have others informations?

Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information
or to

share some knowledge.


Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop

(Calendar, Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)


Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this
one.


Sincerely,


Frédéric Ravetier

Project Manager

Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)

frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com

Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03

Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org



Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :

I recently had a conversation with Alain
  Mayeur, director of ESUP
  
  Portail, the nation-wide consortium of French universities
  that have
  
  developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a
  host of
  
  other open source applications that they have developed or
  integrated.
  
  Alain told me about two projects currently underway that are
  of
  
  interest to Jasig.
  
  
  The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project. With several
  participating
  
  universities, this project is working to coordinate the
  development of
  
  mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal
  3.2. The
  
  wiki page for the project (in French) is located at
  
http://www.esup-p

Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Cris J Holdorph]

Can you describe why you want to use JSF?

 Cris J H

On 11/22/2010 08:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:

Hello,

I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at
Anyware-Services.
We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet to
display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS).
Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real
difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal is
to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on mobile and
desktop).

Our strategy is:
1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on JSF)
2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the user
is using a mobile or a desktop browser
3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection (mobile
to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF taglib)
4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.

The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to
maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and we will use
another taglib to render data to mobile. We already think about
Trinidad. If you have suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to avoid
framework or library that are only webkit compatible, because we'd like
to support many mobile browsers and not only iphone and smartphone. It
is a wish that can be reduce depending on the complexity and the
maintainability.

Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile
developers that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles.

We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt on
step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP that
support CAS here.

Do you have suggestions?
Do you have others informations?
Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or to
share some knowledge.

Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop
(Calendar, Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)

Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one.

Sincerely,

Frédéric Ravetier
Project Manager
Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)
frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com
Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03
Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org


Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :

I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP
Portail, the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have
developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of
other open source applications that they have developed or integrated.
Alain told me about two projects currently underway that are of
interest to Jasig.

The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project. With several participating
universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of
mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2. The
wiki page for the project (in French) is located at
http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.

A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several
organizations, is designed to enhance the content management
capabilities of uPortal.

Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about
these initiatives. I am hoping there might be some areas in which
Jasig developers would be able to contribute.

-Jonathan

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Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Drew Wills]

Jonathan,

These are both big topics on this side of the Atlantic as well.  I have 
a good feeling there is interest & opportunities for collaboration.


drew wills

On 11/22/2010 8:03 AM, Jonathan Markow wrote:

I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP
Portail, the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have
developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of
other open source applications that they have developed or integrated.
Alain told me about two projects currently underway that are of interest
to Jasig.

The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project.  With several participating
universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of
mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2.  The
wiki page for the project (in French) is located at
http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.

A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several
organizations, is designed to enhance the content management
capabilities of uPortal.

Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about these
initiatives.  I am hoping there might be some areas in which Jasig
developers would be able to contribute.

-Jonathan

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Re: [uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Frédéric Ravetier]

  
  
Hello,

I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at
Anyware-Services.
We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet
to display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS). 
Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real
difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal
is to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on
mobile and desktop).

Our strategy is:
1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on
JSF)
2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the
user is using a mobile or a desktop browser
3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection
(mobile to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic
JSF taglib)
4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.

The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to
maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and we will
use another taglib to render data to mobile. We already think about
Trinidad. If you have suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to
avoid framework or library that are only webkit compatible, because
we'd like to support many mobile browsers and not only iphone and
smartphone. It is a wish that can be reduce depending on the
complexity and the maintainability.

Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile
developers that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles.

We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt
on step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP
that support CAS here.

Do you have suggestions?
Do you have others informations?
Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or
to share some knowledge.

Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop
(Calendar, Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)

Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one.

Sincerely,

Frédéric Ravetier
Project Manager
Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)
frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com
Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03
Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org


Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :
I recently had a
conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP Portail, the
nation-wide consortium of French universities that have
developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a
host of other open source applications that they have developed
or integrated.  Alain told me about two projects currently
underway that are of interest to Jasig.

The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project.  With several
participating universities, this project is working to
coordinate the development of mobile services supported by the
mobile framework in uPortal 3.2.  The wiki page for the project
(in French) is located at http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.

A second project, also the result of a collaboration among
several organizations, is designed to enhance the content
management capabilities of uPortal.  

Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information
about these initiatives.  I am hoping there might be some areas
in which Jasig developers would be able to contribute.

-Jonathan

  
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[uportal-dev] Two New Project

[Jonathan Markow]

I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP Portail,
the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have developed a
"Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of other open source
applications that they have developed or integrated.  Alain told me about
two projects currently underway that are of interest to Jasig.

The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project.  With several participating
universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of
mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2.  The wiki
page for the project (in French) is located at
http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.

A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several
organizations, is designed to enhance the content management capabilities of
uPortal.

Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about these
initiatives.  I am hoping there might be some areas in which Jasig
developers would be able to contribute.

-Jonathan

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