Player in Windows
I am writing an app on Mac Lion on a Mini and am trying to use the player. The app works on Mac, iOS, but not on Windows. The player does not display a controller in Windows. What is up. The docs show that the player is available on Mac, Windows, and Linux. I have tried both .aif and .wav files. I have tried both the player and the play command. Anyone know how or why this does not work and is there a workaround? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
Hi Joe, Two more issues I've come up against since upgrading to Lion: If you use 'import snapshot' without any parameters the resulting snapshot is just total garbage, this command was a problem under Snow Leopard, Vista and MX although not quite as bad. RR have known about it for several years, but have not fixed it so far, so I'm not anticipating fix real soon. Another command that returns total garbage under Lion is 'mouseColor' and even worse, if the 'mouseColor' command is active and you move the cursor to the top of the screen, LC or a standalone will crash. Both of these issues have been reported, (#6430 #9980) and they both affect apps that I'm building so it meant some major rethinking on my part. The first one was no big deal, it actually forced me to improve the app, but the second issue is a problem, I've had to disable a feature for Lion users, that's not good. Apart from that, I felt it was important to know what my apps were like on Apple's latest system, it's been out for a while now so there's a good chance your app may end up running on it somewhere. Paul On 15 Feb 2012, at 04:15, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Anyone using Lion: Are your stand-alones created with LC using Snow Leopard or earlier running OK on Lion? I have yet to move up to Lion. Also, is LC 4.5.2 running OK on Lion? What about other apps such as AppleWorks? And is Lion much different than Snow Leopard? I'm sure that must be discussed on the Apple website, but while I'm at it TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Pending Messages
Hi Michael, On 2/14/12 2:09 PM, Michael Doub wrote: I am looking for some advise before start trying to figure out how throw away messages . I am currently catching touch movement events and rendering a graph within a slider. Clearly the rendering is slowing things a bit and I am experiencing some sluggishness. I am thinking about trying to look at the pending messages from within the touch move handler and only processing the last move message. One way to do that: local sDoitID -- ID of a pending message on touchMove tID, x, y cancel sDoitID -- works OK if no ID exists too send doit x,y to me in 1 tick put the result into sDoitID end touchMove This way there is only one pending message at any time - and it's the last one sent. Maybe that will improve responsiveness. Best - Phil Davis Initially I was thinking of replacing the doit command below with a send after 0 ticks command but it seems to me this would only work if the TouchMove message is a higher priority than the doit message. For that matter checking in the touch move handler assumes that the engine is adding touch messages to the pending message list at a higher priority that the TouchMove handler itself. I don't think there is any notion of priority in the message path, so I am not sure if I am thinking about this problem correctly. Can anyone provide me with a bit of advice on this topic. Thanks Mike today: On TouchMove tID, x, y doit x, y end TouchMove On doit -- render here End doit Option 1: On TouchMove tID,x,y look at pending messages capture the x y of the last message cancel all of the touch move messages doit x,y End TouchMove Option 2: On TouchMove tID, x, y send (doit x comma y) to me in 0 ticks end TouchMove On doit look at pending messages capture the x y of the last doit message cancel all of the doit messages -- render here using last x y End doit ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Player in Windows
Hi, Am 15.02.2012 um 09:07 schrieb gwendalw...@cox.net gwendalw...@cox.net: I am writing an app on Mac Lion on a Mini and am trying to use the player. The app works on Mac, iOS, but not on Windows. The player does not display a controller in Windows. What is up. The docs show that the player is available on Mac, Windows, and Linux. I have tried both .aif and .wav files. I have tried both the player and the play command. Anyone know how or why this does not work and is there a workaround? player objects require of course that QuickTIme is installed on the target machine! Is that the case? Otherwise you have no controller, this is a QT only feature! You could check the qtversion when your app starts and alert the user in case there in no QuickTime installed! The play command, on the other hand, does NOT depend on QuickTime but does only work with a very limited sound formats: uncompressed WAV/AIF and compressed AU. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Is there a way to find a lighter and darker shade of a RGB color programmatically?
Hi All, I have a problem... If a user selects a color and I put it into a variable (as RGB), how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter, and a shade that is several shades darker, also in RGB format? For example, I put 0,255,64 into myVar. (This color a shade of green.) Programmatically, how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter in green and a shade that is several shades darker in green from this base color? (By the way... Is there a way in LiveCode to determine the hue of a color and change the value?) Any help would be most appreciated... Thanks! - Boo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there a way to find a lighter and darker shade of a RGB color programmatically?
On 15/02/2012 11:15, Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab) wrote: I have a problem... If a user selects a color and I put it into a variable (as RGB), how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter, and a shade that is several shades darker, also in RGB format? Here are a few approaches: http://goo.gl/RrzKD -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there a way to find a lighter and darker shade of a RGB color programmatically?
...not sure if this helps but perhaps one way might be to emulate the colour tools palette, by transforming the RGB values to/from HSB and then vary the saturation and/or brightness values. I guess it depends what you mean by the term 'shade'? And of course, how to transform the values would be a different question! ;-) Best, Keith.. On 15 Feb 2012, at 11:15, Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab) wrote: Hi All, I have a problem... If a user selects a color and I put it into a variable (as RGB), how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter, and a shade that is several shades darker, also in RGB format? For example, I put 0,255,64 into myVar. (This color a shade of green.) Programmatically, how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter in green and a shade that is several shades darker in green from this base color? (By the way... Is there a way in LiveCode to determine the hue of a color and change the value?) Any help would be most appreciated... Thanks! - Boo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there a way to find a lighter and darker shade of a RGB color programmatically?
Hey Keith, One site that could help you is Scott Rossi's tactilemedia.com he has some great tutorials and the 'Color Slider' tutorial should give you all the info you need to convert your colour data into HSB (HSL), then you can just compare the brightness values and respond accordingly. The tutorial page is here; http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/software/tutorials.html Paul On 15 Feb 2012, at 11:15, Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab) wrote: Hi All, I have a problem... If a user selects a color and I put it into a variable (as RGB), how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter, and a shade that is several shades darker, also in RGB format? For example, I put 0,255,64 into myVar. (This color a shade of green.) Programmatically, how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter in green and a shade that is several shades darker in green from this base color? (By the way... Is there a way in LiveCode to determine the hue of a color and change the value?) Any help would be most appreciated... Thanks! - Boo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Bill, Thanks for the info. Interestingly enough my AppleWorks 6.2.9 runs fine under Snow Leopard on my Mac Pro, which is Intel. But I'll be careful based on your comment. Thanks again, Joe Wilkins Snow Leopard was the last version to include Rosetta for running those older applications. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web
Alas, I think it is not a new phenomenon. I am not young enough to know everything. -- Oscar Wilde Whenever I walk into a large library, I feel a sense of awe in the physical presence of so much that I do not know, and will never know. Being able to click between Facebook, Google and Wikipedia is unlikely to instill a sense of the vastness of knowledge and the limited lifespan we have. Reading about advanced ancient civilizations also makes me wonder at how much we have lost in terms of knowledge. The internet is great as an instant encyclopaedia (even given the partiality of much of the information). What it lacks is depth and a scale by which to realise one's ignorance. Getting an overview of a subject on the internet, then going to a real library to read around it makes me appreciate the physical library even more. But I'm not knocking the digitisation of information - I would hate to have to physically search through a stack of old copies of the New York Times going back through the last century. There are some obscure books printed in India in the 1930s that I want to look up soon. I've found physical copies, but I have no hope they will ever be digitised. And that makes me wonder about what knowledge we will lose about our own past. Bernard On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: It is frightening to think that so many kids grow up to be adults and NEVER form the thought, Maybe I don't know all about What positions do they eventually come to hold where doing the wrong thing means damage, pain and suffering and even death to themselves or others? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Pending Messages
On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Michael Doub wrote: I am currently catching touch movement events and rendering a graph within a slider. Clearly the rendering is slowing things a bit and I am experiencing some sluggishness. Are you locking the screen before you change the graph and then unlocking it when you're done? Also, the objects that are being changed by dragging the slider seem like candidates for setting the layerMode of those objects to dynamic. Also, touchMove messages aren't sent as often as mouseMove, so you may way to try using mouseMove instead of touchMove (don't use them both or you'll get both!) and see if that helps. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: Lion
Thanks Tiemo. I usually keep things pretty simple, so that may not cause me any problems. KISS? (smile) Joe Wilkins On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Joe, it depends on... in general the standalones are running without any problem. In my case, one of my programs didn't run anymore under Lion, because Apple has changed directory permissions and I had stored options and some other in a subdirectory of \preferences\, where Lion doesn't let me write anymore. So I had to do some major redesigns in my program and make a new version. Just my personal experience Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Joe Lewis Wilkins Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2012 05:15 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Lion Anyone using Lion: Are your stand-alones created with LC using Snow Leopard or earlier running OK on Lion? I have yet to move up to Lion. Also, is LC 4.5.2 running OK on Lion? What about other apps such as AppleWorks? And is Lion much different than Snow Leopard? I'm sure that must be discussed on the Apple website, but while I'm at it TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
Paul, Thanks for your insights. This doesn't appear to be an easy transition for anyone. Hopefully, RR is monitoring these threads and will also learn more things they need to improve. Keep the faith! Joe Wilkins On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote: Hi Joe, Two more issues I've come up against since upgrading to Lion: If you use 'import snapshot' without any parameters the resulting snapshot is just total garbage, this command was a problem under Snow Leopard, Vista and MX although not quite as bad. RR have known about it for several years, but have not fixed it so far, so I'm not anticipating fix real soon. Another command that returns total garbage under Lion is 'mouseColor' and even worse, if the 'mouseColor' command is active and you move the cursor to the top of the screen, LC or a standalone will crash. Both of these issues have been reported, (#6430 #9980) and they both affect apps that I'm building so it meant some major rethinking on my part. The first one was no big deal, it actually forced me to improve the app, but the second issue is a problem, I've had to disable a feature for Lion users, that's not good. Apart from that, I felt it was important to know what my apps were like on Apple's latest system, it's been out for a while now so there's a good chance your app may end up running on it somewhere. Paul On 15 Feb 2012, at 04:15, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Anyone using Lion: Are your stand-alones created with LC using Snow Leopard or earlier running OK on Lion? I have yet to move up to Lion. Also, is LC 4.5.2 running OK on Lion? What about other apps such as AppleWorks? And is Lion much different than Snow Leopard? I'm sure that must be discussed on the Apple website, but while I'm at it TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Thanks for the info. Interestingly enough my AppleWorks 6.2.9 runs fine under Snow Leopard on my Mac Pro, which is Intel. But I'll be careful based on your comment. Snow Leopard was the last version to include Rosetta for running those older applications. But - if you have the Snow Leopard install DVD, the Rosetta package is included. It installs fine on Lion and then all of the older apps continue to retain usefulness. This is how we install Final Cut Studio and Logic Studio on Lion systems. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Pending Messages
Ken and Phil: Thank you both for your input. Phil your sample scrip helped a lot. Ken, yes, I am locking the screen before the updating the chart. I don't know anything about the layer mode so I guess I need to learn more about that. I have always been a bit confused about when and when not to use the touch handlers as opposed to the mouse. Is it safe to say that you should stick with the mouse handlers unless you are interested in detecting multiple touch events? And I am in fact using them both so I need to fix that. Any idea why the frequency difference between the touch and mouse? I would have expected them to be the same. Thanks again, Mike On 02/15/2012, at 10:43 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Michael Doub wrote: I am currently catching touch movement events and rendering a graph within a slider. Clearly the rendering is slowing things a bit and I am experiencing some sluggishness. Are you locking the screen before you change the graph and then unlocking it when you're done? Also, the objects that are being changed by dragging the slider seem like candidates for setting the layerMode of those objects to dynamic. Also, touchMove messages aren't sent as often as mouseMove, so you may way to try using mouseMove instead of touchMove (don't use them both or you'll get both!) and see if that helps. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there a way to find a lighter and darker shade of a RGB color programmatically?
Seems to me you could add 10% to each of the RGB values by multiplying each by 1.1, then round them up. (A roundUp function can be made by div'ing a value by itself, then adding the mod of a value by itself and conditionally adding 1 if the mod is not 0). That would give you the shade lighter. Dividing the values by 1.1 would give you a shade darker. But that is just me conjecturing off the top of my head. Bob On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:15 AM, Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab) wrote: Hi All, I have a problem... If a user selects a color and I put it into a variable (as RGB), how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter, and a shade that is several shades darker, also in RGB format? For example, I put 0,255,64 into myVar. (This color a shade of green.) Programmatically, how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter in green and a shade that is several shades darker in green from this base color? (By the way... Is there a way in LiveCode to determine the hue of a color and change the value?) Any help would be most appreciated... Thanks! - Boo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Pending Messages
Ken, when using the Dynamic Layer mode am I correct to assume that all of the objects including groups need to have the property mode set to dynamic. In my case I am not really moving the objects but instead changing their color. Movement is possible but not expected to be a common occurrence. -= Mike On 02/15/2012, at 11:37 AM, Michael Doub wrote: Ken and Phil: Thank you both for your input. Phil your sample scrip helped a lot. Ken, yes, I am locking the screen before the updating the chart. I don't know anything about the layer mode so I guess I need to learn more about that. I have always been a bit confused about when and when not to use the touch handlers as opposed to the mouse. Is it safe to say that you should stick with the mouse handlers unless you are interested in detecting multiple touch events? And I am in fact using them both so I need to fix that. Any idea why the frequency difference between the touch and mouse? I would have expected them to be the same. Thanks again, Mike On 02/15/2012, at 10:43 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Michael Doub wrote: I am currently catching touch movement events and rendering a graph within a slider. Clearly the rendering is slowing things a bit and I am experiencing some sluggishness. Are you locking the screen before you change the graph and then unlocking it when you're done? Also, the objects that are being changed by dragging the slider seem like candidates for setting the layerMode of those objects to dynamic. Also, touchMove messages aren't sent as often as mouseMove, so you may way to try using mouseMove instead of touchMove (don't use them both or you'll get both!) and see if that helps. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web
I have to disagree. You are saying, it seems, that we have to dumb down the OS for everyone in order to accommodate those unable or unwilling to learn as much as they need to use it. I for one, cringe at the prospect of an OS that limited what I could do or how I could do it. I do think this underscores a principle I have been stating for years, that advancements in technology (at least consumer technology) cannot continue to increase linearly forever. A good friend of mine contends that it can! But I argue that you soon reach a point where the average user simply refuses the technology on the grounds that it is too much mental work to embrace it. The genius of iOS is that it was written as the OS for the rest of the rest of us. ;-) One more point. If we want to advance technology in the consumer world, we are going to have to first make great advancements in the educational world, and I have been watching a marked trend in the opposite direction for most of my 56 years on this planet. Bob On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: When I started working at UCLA in 1996 very few students had used computers before entering, or at least had used their own computers rather than a lab one in grade school. Now 15 years later all have a laptop in class. However, about 3/4 of the Mac-using students in a music history class use Spotlight to find files and open applications on their Macs and most of these don't know any other way to find their files. In other words, they don't really have a clue how the file system works. I only started to discover this when I had them install a project that I'm developing and found out that many have been running it from their Downloads folder and didn't know to do it any other way. Would you call these people computer-literate? They sure are Web and social media literate. So the sooner OS X moves to an iOS-type Finder the better for them. It could be that OS X is just too easy to use and so they never learn more than Word, Google, YouTube, and Facebook. The Windows users seem to know a little more, at least their own version of Samsung Windows or Dell Windows, but it's only a little more. Peter Bogdanoff UCLA On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: It is frightening to think that so many kids grow up to be adults and NEVER form the thought, Maybe I don't know all about What positions do they eventually come to hold where doing the wrong thing means damage, pain and suffering and even death to themselves or others? Maybe what we ought to be impressing constantly on children is the incredible amount of knowledge they do NOT know? Maybe on the first day of computer class we should be overwhelming them with information that is WAAAY over their heads, and tell them that the following morning there will be a quiz on it. Then next morning tell them there is no quiz, but you do not ever want to hear the phrase, I know all about... Bob On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Richmond wrote: Certainly no flies on you! Far more important, to my mind, is the fact that kids nowadays keep telling me they know all about computers. Then I turn on the computers in the school and they ask me where Windows Explorer is, and when I explain that these computers work with something called Linux they say but everybody knows that computers cannot work without Windows. I wonder how many operating systems there are, apart from Windows, currently available to run bog-basic PCs? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web
Someone needs to make a machine something like a cat scanner but that can take a 3D image of an entire book so that the pages can be singled out and OCR applied to them without damaging the book. Then we could get on much better! :-) Bob On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: Alas, I think it is not a new phenomenon. I am not young enough to know everything. -- Oscar Wilde Whenever I walk into a large library, I feel a sense of awe in the physical presence of so much that I do not know, and will never know. Being able to click between Facebook, Google and Wikipedia is unlikely to instill a sense of the vastness of knowledge and the limited lifespan we have. Reading about advanced ancient civilizations also makes me wonder at how much we have lost in terms of knowledge. The internet is great as an instant encyclopaedia (even given the partiality of much of the information). What it lacks is depth and a scale by which to realise one's ignorance. Getting an overview of a subject on the internet, then going to a real library to read around it makes me appreciate the physical library even more. But I'm not knocking the digitisation of information - I would hate to have to physically search through a stack of old copies of the New York Times going back through the last century. There are some obscure books printed in India in the 1930s that I want to look up soon. I've found physical copies, but I have no hope they will ever be digitised. And that makes me wonder about what knowledge we will lose about our own past. Bernard On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: It is frightening to think that so many kids grow up to be adults and NEVER form the thought, Maybe I don't know all about What positions do they eventually come to hold where doing the wrong thing means damage, pain and suffering and even death to themselves or others? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Valentina 5 Platform Announced; Reports, Valentina Studio for Postgre, Valentina DB and SQLite
http://www.valentina-db.com/en/company/news/1-latest-news/259-valentina-5-an nounced The full PR is above. In a nutshell: Valentina Studio Pro and Valentina Reports are extended to other dbs, including Valentina DB, SQLite and Postgre. MySQL is on its way. We've found that as a general database management tool, simply has too many great competitive features at a competitive price not to extend it to other dbs. VSP is available on Mac OS X, Linux and Windows. Valentina Studio Admin is disappearing, however all of its features will be FREE TO USE in Valentina Studio Pro. That means for every day db administration and management for Valentina DB, SQLite, Postgre (and forthcoming MySQL) you'll be able to get those features for free on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux (yes, 64 bit too). The Pro features still cost - you'll love the new diagramming features coming! Valentina Server /5 as we know, is free in a community version; the big Valentina Server news is that it will support journaling. All versions of Valentina Server (free, commercial, developer via VDN) incorporate the Valentina Reports reporting platform, allowing you to build rich web applications (PHP and RoR supported out of the box) that build off of Valentina DB and Reports. The full reporting engine supports charts, graphics, barcodes, grids that can be rendered as web pages, text, images and PDFs. VDN developers take note: Bonjour and SSL are no longer extras for VDN but are included with all versions of Valentina Server. FREE iValentina administration apps for iPhone and iPad are available via iTunes. There is going to be an Upgrade Guide for Valentina 5 that will show how we've simplified our product line. FYI - if you've been wondering what happened to Omegabundle 2012 for LiveCode, its coming real soon now with 13 LiveCode products - 89% savings! Participants will get Valentina 5 updates as a matter of course. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
Hi Joe. I am an IT professional, and an avid Mac proponent, although I understand Windows very well, as I have to administer it every day. I am sticking with Snow Leopard myself until forced to upgrade, and am doing the same with Windows XP. Seeing the number of things that break upon upgrading, with Lion and Vista/7, including drivers as well as software, I see these systems as an digital gun pointed at my head demanding I upgrade all my software and hardware as needed. Bob On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Everyone, Just got through checking out Lion on the Apple Website. Appears there may be some problems and I'll not be upgrading any time real soon. I'd still like to know about the LC questions I posed, but I suspect I'll wait until I can get a new Mac before I abandon Snow Leopard. I may try a new mini-mac for the new one. This is not going to be a simple or easy decision. Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
Tim! That is a genius recommendation! Kudos for that! I do this stuff for a living and yet was unaware you could do that! Bob On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Tim Jones wrote: On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Thanks for the info. Interestingly enough my AppleWorks 6.2.9 runs fine under Snow Leopard on my Mac Pro, which is Intel. But I'll be careful based on your comment. Snow Leopard was the last version to include Rosetta for running those older applications. But - if you have the Snow Leopard install DVD, the Rosetta package is included. It installs fine on Lion and then all of the older apps continue to retain usefulness. This is how we install Final Cut Studio and Logic Studio on Lion systems. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
On Feb 15, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hopefully, RR is monitoring these threads and will also learn more things they need to improve. The live code team will generally only respond to bug/enhancement postings to the Quality Control Center. They have to prioritize their efforts, and will attend to those problems that are (a) bugs that result in a full LC crash and (b) bugs with lots of votes on the QCC. No one should expect that complaints or suggestions on this list (even impassioned ones), will be responded to in the development process. If you feel strongly about some glitch or feature, you should always go to the QCC and search the existing bug reports first, in case someone has already beaten you to it, and vote to support that bug. Post a new bug yourself if no one has raised the issue already. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion [and the Mac app store]
On the topic of Lion: Has anyone recently gotten a Mac OS X app through the Mac App store successfully? I remember a threat a while back asking about adding Lion's native full screen support into LiveCode, and I'd read that Apple was/is rejecting apps that don't support full screen. I've never submitted anything to the Mac App store but am considering something for the future. It would be nice to know if that route isn't a possibility until fullscreen is support before meeting with rejection. Will full screen be coming to LC5.5? Any insights greatly appreciated. John On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:14 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote: Hi Joe, Two more issues I've come up against since upgrading to Lion: If you use 'import snapshot' without any parameters the resulting snapshot is just total garbage, this command was a problem under Snow Leopard, Vista and MX although not quite as bad. RR have known about it for several years, but have not fixed it so far, so I'm not anticipating fix real soon. Another command that returns total garbage under Lion is 'mouseColor' and even worse, if the 'mouseColor' command is active and you move the cursor to the top of the screen, LC or a standalone will crash. Both of these issues have been reported, (#6430 #9980) and they both affect apps that I'm building so it meant some major rethinking on my part. The first one was no big deal, it actually forced me to improve the app, but the second issue is a problem, I've had to disable a feature for Lion users, that's not good. Apart from that, I felt it was important to know what my apps were like on Apple's latest system, it's been out for a while now so there's a good chance your app may end up running on it somewhere. Paul On 15 Feb 2012, at 04:15, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Anyone using Lion: Are your stand-alones created with LC using Snow Leopard or earlier running OK on Lion? I have yet to move up to Lion. Also, is LC 4.5.2 running OK on Lion? What about other apps such as AppleWorks? And is Lion much different than Snow Leopard? I'm sure that must be discussed on the Apple website, but while I'm at it TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ee58426a-df9a-11e0-845a-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1mU0BdboP High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut paste the article. See our TsCs http://www.ft.com/servicestools/help/terms and Copyright Policy http://www.ft.com/servicestools/help/copyright for more detail. Email ftsales.supp...@ft.com mailto:ftsales.supp...@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ee58426a-df9a-11e0-845a-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1mU3h024O Mr Willetts said he accepted Mr Schmidt's widely publicised remarks that your IT curriculum focuses on how to use software but gives no insight into how it's made. That is just throwing away your great computing heritage. Spot on.. --faintly tedious anecdote follows- This morning, on my non-teaching day, I got a Facebook call from on of the 15 year olds I teach, from her IT class. I asked her what she was doing when they were having an IT class; she told me that the teacher was rabbiting on about Word (well, at least I could feel happy that her English was good enough to use 'rabbiting') and all the kids were chatting on Facebook, and, anyway, the teacher didn't care. She asked me what I would do under similar circumstances; to which I replied that I would chat to my friends on Facebook as how to format a paragraph in 'Word' does not constitute 'IT', and that the teacher should know better. She pointed out to me that that is what the course outline for the year largely consisted of. --end of faintly tedious anecdote stops here; but you may regret not having read it as what follows may appear decontextualised as a result-- This does not happen only in Bulgaria http://www.silicon.com/management/cio-insights/2008/06/17/boring-school-it-curriculum-slammed-39247688/ called for a radical overhauling of the curriculum in secondary schools as boring ICT classes which focus on Word and Excel are turning teenagers off IT as a career. Which cretins (and by 'cretins' I mean CRETINS) arrived at the idea that IT consisted of typing in a word-processor or mucking around with a spreadsheet? --bitchy, personal bit follows--- Having said that; this criticism comes from my own 'University' of Abertay where, on the MSc course I attended, we had 3 weeks of lectures on Excel. And, having been told the course was about computers and computer programming, none of the lecturers seemed to have heard of Linux: probably as the result of a miasmic cloud of unknowing spreading out from the 'Microsoft Professor' there. --smack yourself for having skipped the difficult bits-- Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there a way to find a lighter and darker shade of a RGB colorprogrammatically?
Thanks Bob and Paul! FYI: You might want to take a look at the posting (on the forum) by Bernd: http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10t=11100p=51931#p51931 I appreciate the wonderful help from the LiveCode community! Sincerely, - Boo -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:07 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Is there a way to find a lighter and darker shade of a RGB colorprogrammatically? Seems to me you could add 10% to each of the RGB values by multiplying each by 1.1, then round them up. (A roundUp function can be made by div'ing a value by itself, then adding the mod of a value by itself and conditionally adding 1 if the mod is not 0). That would give you the shade lighter. Dividing the values by 1.1 would give you a shade darker. But that is just me conjecturing off the top of my head. Bob On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:15 AM, Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab) wrote: Hi All, I have a problem... If a user selects a color and I put it into a variable (as RGB), how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter, and a shade that is several shades darker, also in RGB format? For example, I put 0,255,64 into myVar. (This color a shade of green.) Programmatically, how can I find a shade that is several shades lighter in green and a shade that is several shades darker in green from this base color? (By the way... Is there a way in LiveCode to determine the hue of a color and change the value?) Any help would be most appreciated... Thanks! - Boo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Can't see my stack
I have lots of stacks. I have one stack, that if I launch LC by double clicking it in the finder, always shows up just fine. Its openStack handler runs as advertised. If I have LC already open, though, and try to open the stack from the finder, it never opens. Sort of. It opens, but cannot be seen. I can get its loc, I can get its visible (true). The openStack message is never sent via this method of opening. I can see it, finally, by writing go stack myStack from the msg box The stack itself works fine. Any property of a stack that might cause this? It is the only one of mine that exhibits this odd behavior. Thanks... Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can't see my stack
Supress messages in LC and try again. If it opens, then there is something in your own handlers that is causing it. Bob On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:09 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: I have lots of stacks. I have one stack, that if I launch LC by double clicking it in the finder, always shows up just fine. Its openStack handler runs as advertised. If I have LC already open, though, and try to open the stack from the finder, it never opens. Sort of. It opens, but cannot be seen. I can get its loc, I can get its visible (true). The openStack message is never sent via this method of opening. I can see it, finally, by writing go stack myStack from the msg box The stack itself works fine. Any property of a stack that might cause this? It is the only one of mine that exhibits this odd behavior. Thanks... Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Pending Messages
Ken, yes, I am locking the screen before the updating the chart. I don't know anything about the layer mode so I guess I need to learn more about that. Ken, when using the Dynamic Layer mode am I correct to assume that all of the objects including groups need to have the property mode set to dynamic. In my case I am not really moving the objects but instead changing their color. Movement is possible but not expected to be a common occurrence. If you're not moving them, then you shouldn't need to use dynamic layering. I have always been a bit confused about when and when not to use the touch handlers as opposed to the mouse. Is it safe to say that you should stick with the mouse handlers unless you are interested in detecting multiple touch events? And I am in fact using them both so I need to fix that. Any idea why the frequency difference between the touch and mouse? I would have expected them to be the same. I don't know why the frequency is different, but in general, my rule of thumb is this: - If you don't care about multi-touch, use mouse events for everything but mouseMove/touchMove. - Pick either touchMove or mouseMove and if you have any problems with it, try using the other. I haven't exactly identified when the best time to use one or the other is, with the exception of a project I was working on where I was needing to drag something and update a field with the location of the dragged object - when I did it with touchMove it was a little less responsive than with mouseMove. HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web
What is Linux?? And what is miasmic? ;-) Bob On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Richmond wrote: Having said that; this criticism comes from my own 'University' of Abertay where, on the MSc course I attended, we had 3 weeks of lectures on Excel. And, having been told the course was about computers and computer programming, none of the lecturers seemed to have heard of Linux: probably as the result of a miasmic cloud of unknowing spreading out from the 'Microsoft Professor' there. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Push
Has anybody worked on a project to SEND notifications that will eventually be handled by an iOS device via push? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can't see my stack
On 2/15/12 3:09 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: I have one stack, that if I launch LC by double clicking it in the finder, always shows up just fine. Its openStack handler runs as advertised. If I have LC already open, though, and try to open the stack from the finder, it never opens. Sort of. It opens, but cannot be seen. A stack's visible property can be true while the stack is hidden. The property and the actual screen draw are separate things. Have you tried re-saving it after making it toplevel and it's in view? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lion
Hey Tim, So you've actually gotten Rosetta to function under Lion? I see lots of chatter in various forums with some people saying that they got it to install, but that PPC apps would not run. Did you just do the install off the Snow Leopard disk, or did you have to do some tweaking to make it work? Thanks, Marty K On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Thanks for the info. Interestingly enough my AppleWorks 6.2.9 runs fine under Snow Leopard on my Mac Pro, which is Intel. But I'll be careful based on your comment. Snow Leopard was the last version to include Rosetta for running those older applications. But - if you have the Snow Leopard install DVD, the Rosetta package is included. It installs fine on Lion and then all of the older apps continue to retain usefulness. This is how we install Final Cut Studio and Logic Studio on Lion systems. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web
I do think this underscores a principle I have been stating for years, that advancements in technology (at least consumer technology) cannot continue to increase linearly forever. A good friend of mine contends that it can! But I argue that you soon reach a point where the average user simply refuses the technology on the grounds that it is too much mental work to embrace it. The genius of iOS is that it was written as the OS for the rest of the rest of us. ;-) I think you should also not underestimate the value of a predictive (and more advanced AI) system that allows other interfaces to be more simplified. So many lessons were learned starting from the lean restrictions of the PDA era. More and more complex tasks will be able to be broken down to three steps or less. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperCard and the Interactive Web
On 2/15/12 7:53 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Lynn- Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 4:28:58 PM, you wrote: More and more complex tasks will be able to be broken down to three steps or less. 1. Take it out of the refrigerator. 2. Sniff. 3. Toss it. This list is almost Too close to haiku to be Too comfortable. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can't see my stack
Jacque. Hi. I know. It is topLevel, in that it is an editable, resizable window. Is there something else in that regard? Once I make it visible, I can save it and dismiss it, but it will not reappear, double clicked from the finder. Only if I launch in a new LC session does it act normally. I just want to make sure it does not contain some lurking corruption. The stack's openStack handler can be empty, and there is no preOpenStack handler, so I cannot see how Bob's suggestion could help. I will try tomorrow anyway. Craig -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 7:10 pm Subject: Re: Can't see my stack On 2/15/12 3:09 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: I have one stack, that if I launch LC by double clicking it in the finder, always shows up just fine. Its openStack handler runs as advertised. If I have LC already open, though, and try to open the stack from the finder, it never opens. Sort of. It opens, but cannot be seen. A stack's visible property can be true while the stack is hidden. The property and the actual screen draw are separate things. Have you tried re-saving it after making it toplevel and it's in view? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can't see my stack
On 2/15/12 8:40 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: It is topLevel, in that it is an editable, resizable window. Is there something else in that regard? Once I make it visible, I can save it and dismiss it, but it will not reappear, double clicked from the finder. Only if I launch in a new LC session does it act normally. I just want to make sure it does not contain some lurking corruption. Stack corruption is just about unheard of in LiveCode. I can't remember ever seeing it. It has to be something else, I just can't think what. The stack's openStack handler can be empty, and there is no preOpenStack handler, so I cannot see how Bob's suggestion could help. I will try tomorrow anyway. Does it do anything on close? It's name doesn't start with rev does it? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another naive iOS question - filling the iPad screen
On 2/14/12 11:54 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I read that the size of the screen available to a LC stack on the iPad is 1024 x 768, so I made a stack that big. I then placed a graphic on the screen which was intended to provide a black background: I made this 1024 x 768 as well, and I set its top corners to 0,0. Oddly a chunk of white showed at the bottom of the window, and if I moved my graphic down 24 pixels, the chunk of white showed at the top. So the sizes aren't the same. If I show the stack on the simulator, I get the same effect, i.e. not all the screen is black, but instead a 24-pixel chunk of white appears, always at the top. Is this what's supposed to happen? And anyway why doesn't a graphic made the same size as a stack not actually occupy the same space as a stack? I'm still figuring this out too, but it seems the card size varies depending on the orientation, the status bar (if any) and if there is a lower toolbar or not (Android mostly.) You can get the actual dimensions of the available space with the working screenrect but that won't always tell you exactly where 0,0 is. If the status bar is showing, 0,0 will be directly beneath it. If it isn't showing, then 0,0 will be at the top left of the physical screen. On Android it gets even worse because of the variety of different system toolbars, status bars, screen sizes, etc. The best bet is to set your graphic to the screenrect in a resizeStack handler, and let the engine figure it out. Or easier, if possible, just set the backcolor of the card instead of using a graphic. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevOnline upload (bis)
Did not work for me either earlier this week. Did not try today though. You might try sending a msg to support as they may not be aware of the problem. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RevOnline-upload-bis-tp4387783p4393018.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can't see my stack
Jacque. Nothing on close. No handlers at all. rev at the begonning of its name? Cummon. I am hoping that with this bit of back and forth, I will simply look at it tomorrow and find the culprit. That's how it usually goes. Watch this space. Craig -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:23 pm Subject: Re: Can't see my stack On 2/15/12 8:40 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: It is topLevel, in that it is an editable, resizable window. Is there something else in that regard? Once I make it visible, I can save it and dismiss it, but it will not reappear, double clicked from the finder. Only if I launch in a new LC session does it act normally. I just want to make sure it does not contain some lurking corruption. Stack corruption is just about unheard of in LiveCode. I can't remember ever seeing it. It has to be something else, I just can't think what. The stack's openStack handler can be empty, and there is no preOpenStack handler, so I cannot see how Bob's suggestion could help. I will try tomorrow anyway. Does it do anything on close? It's name doesn't start with rev does it? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another naive iOS question - filling the iPad screen
This isn't right on topic but the stack height on desktop doesn't include the menu bar which really surprised me. Pete On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:43 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 2/14/12 11:54 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I read that the size of the screen available to a LC stack on the iPad is 1024 x 768, so I made a stack that big. I then placed a graphic on the screen which was intended to provide a black background: I made this 1024 x 768 as well, and I set its top corners to 0,0. Oddly a chunk of white showed at the bottom of the window, and if I moved my graphic down 24 pixels, the chunk of white showed at the top. So the sizes aren't the same. If I show the stack on the simulator, I get the same effect, i.e. not all the screen is black, but instead a 24-pixel chunk of white appears, always at the top. Is this what's supposed to happen? And anyway why doesn't a graphic made the same size as a stack not actually occupy the same space as a stack? I'm still figuring this out too, but it seems the card size varies depending on the orientation, the status bar (if any) and if there is a lower toolbar or not (Android mostly.) You can get the actual dimensions of the available space with the working screenrect but that won't always tell you exactly where 0,0 is. If the status bar is showing, 0,0 will be directly beneath it. If it isn't showing, then 0,0 will be at the top left of the physical screen. On Android it gets even worse because of the variety of different system toolbars, status bars, screen sizes, etc. The best bet is to set your graphic to the screenrect in a resizeStack handler, and let the engine figure it out. Or easier, if possible, just set the backcolor of the card instead of using a graphic. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
want you error expertise
Hello, from time to time I have customers where my LC 4.6.4 program crashes on windows machines right away when launching. The only error message is the generic windows message windows has encountered a problem. I know that this can happen from everything. Installation without enough permissions, missing or corrupted windows files, anti virus programs, viruses, etc. In most cases I don't find the reason, beside saying you could reinstall your windows, etc. Though these cases are below 1% of all my installations for the customer it is 100% of fault. And they tell me of course that all other programs run fine on their computer and just my program is shit What it makes worse is that often just these customers do very hard to operate their computers or even don't have internet access, so no chance to make remote diagnostics. Because of the 100% unsatisfying experience for the customer it is also very frustrating for me, not being able to help. I am not experienced enough to see if this is a typical LC problem, or an individual problem of my program (the only specials is using Valentina and some shell calls) or is a LC program not worse or better as the average of all windows programs? How are your experiences and how do you approach these kind of errors / what do you tell your customers? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
