Re: 6.6.1 no bueno
On 04/15/2014 09:58 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Seems only a few people seeing this. Might be a corrupted prefs issue. Also, if you are running any add-on that does properties, that may be getting around it. Bob Renamed the Plugins and preferences folders and this issue persists. (Linux) Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 7.0 dp 2 still not much cop on Linux
On 04/10/2014 12:18 PM, Richmond wrote: The problem I pointed out in DP1 is still there with the dictionary: Not possible to type into the search field of the Dictionary. UbuntuStudio 14.04 Richmond. Not that it helps solve the problem you're having, but I don't have this issue here on my system running openSUSE, LC 7.0-dp1. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6
On 03/21/2014 04:26 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: No, its broke. ... Maybe there is something else dependency? Since it's worked for others, it might not be correct to say it's broke. There must be some definable reason it's not working on your system and a dependency issue sounds like the most probable cause. I don't see that the specified dependencies have changed, although there is evidence that the dependencies listed as optional are becoming required. People with disappearing interface text in 6.5 fixed that by installing libpango (32 bit version). If you've had 6.5 running without issue, then you might be lacking something else. As a first step, I would suggest you check your system for all the optional libs. Good luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6
On 03/20/2014 01:45 PM, Richmond wrote: I am sorry to say that the middle button: You Only does not work as it stops with a windows that states this: The installer will automatically continue when these conflicting applications are closed: Running openSUSE with KDE. I just installed by opening 6.5.2 and choosing to update when offered the option. As soon as the update started downloading (while it was downloading) I quit 6.5.2. This would be the conflicting application you're being warned about. The update proceeded normally, installing for only my user, correctly installed in ~/.runrev and appears in the launch menu as expected. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6
On 03/20/2014 03:27 PM, Richmond wrote: I got that message having downloaded the installer, and attempting to install from that rather than via the upgrade system from inside an earlier version. Well, that's not good! I hadn't realized you were using the straight installer and was additionally confused by having read Peter's message about having trouble with the updater. That's what I'll tell the judge, anyway. What happens if you use the update system? Good luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6
On 03/20/2014 03:27 PM, Richmond wrote: I got that message having downloaded the installer, and attempting to install from that rather than via the upgrade system from inside an earlier version. Richmond. Richmond, I just tried it using the downloaded installer (both community and commercial versions). It worked as expected. I wonder if you might have had a left over .setup process running without you knowing. I have found that this will still occasionally not close when it should. Check your running processes before running the installer. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 6.6 RC2 Release
On 03/20/2014 10:02 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: It is quite simply correct, and not doing it is wrong. Thank you very much for your response. No, I'm not out of my mind and your statement is your opinion and nothing more and I heartily disagree. The reasoning I gave - maintaining readability through several rounds of replies - is valid. Have a good evening. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 6.6 RC2 Release
On 03/19/2014 03:13 AM, Richmond wrote: I'm sorry, but I am not going to take responsibility for your decision to read the Use-List using a mobile device. LOL. Richmond. everything from here on down has been removed to save mobile users 'pain' and to decontextualise the posting I don't know that there's any need to be so snarky. It's a fairly common request in mailing lists that care be taken to avoid quoting unnecessary text in replies, and it doesn't just annoy people on small screen devices. If only we can get people to stop nesting responses within quoted text, which can make for dizziness after a couple of rounds of replies. Of course, that's one of your favorite techniques... (Yes, I understand the logic, but it only really works for the first reply or two which makes it seem to me to be an arrogant strategy. I know this has been discussed here before, and I also see the problem is getting worse.) Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 6.6 RC2 Release
On 03/19/2014 12:39 PM, Richmond wrote: to do this I have had to nest responses so that each response-let connects to each of your points. For whose benefit? That was not in any sense necessary. It was your preference. You could have just as easily constructed a coherent response addressing all the points in a single block. It wouldn't have taken advanced writing skills to do. I am confident you are capable of this. What I meant be arrogant strategy is that after more than a couple of rounds, a thread in which people are nesting comments often becomes very difficult to follow and respond to, which may limit further responses. Also, useful information can become buried and hard to extract, which naturally makes it potentially less useful. I don't mean to imply that you or anyone is motivated by these negative possibilities, I do wonder, though, how much thought is given to them. Short-sighted might be another appropriate and less inflammatory description. I have noticed that you are not alone in preferring this approach; I only seem to single you out because I was replying to you. Rest assured I dislike it just as much when someone else employs it. That's what motivated me to say the problem (as I see it) is getting worse. Cheers, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Robyn Miller talks about Hypercard on Macworld podcast
On 02/19/2014 07:02 AM, Richmond wrote: Now, let me see how to do THAT on Linux :) From the Macworld podcast page, http://www.macworld.com/article/2094400/robyn-miller-from-myst-to-the-immortal-augustus-gladstone.html: You can subscribe to the Macworld Podcast by clicking here. Or you can point your favorite podcast-savvy RSS reader at: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/58576458-macworld/tracks ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 652 release
On 01/29/2014 11:08 AM, François Chaplais wrote: Thanks. The externals SDK links seem to be broken All links starting with 'LiveCode 5.5.5' lead back to the download page. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot
On 01/23/2014 05:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I believe the spirit of this goes back to Steve Jobs' observation that most people's desktops are a complete mess of file icons. Obsessed with getting rid of clutter, his answer was to remove the file system from the things users need to worry about. Bathwater and babies... throw them all out!!! KDE had a much better solution ;) Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where to download Community Server?
On 01/17/2014 12:47 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Where at livecode.com is the link to download the Community Version of LiveCode Server? I imagine some of you have special URLs you've collected for that, but at the moment I'm less interested in specialized knowledge than simple usability - that is, I'm assuming a link exists somewhere on the site in a discoverable location, yes? If not, I'll file a bug report. TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World On this page: http://livecode.com/download/ There is a link labeled View All LiveCode Downloads that takes the visitor to the download directory, including the community version of the server. (http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/) Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Figuring out the correct height / width of scrollbars under Linux
On 01/09/2014 03:03 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, is there a way to figure out how wide / heigh a scrollbar needs to be under Linux to draw all of the scrollbar, but not leaving you with empty space around it? Can this be figured out by script? It appears that under UBUNTU this would be 14 Pixels. Is there a difference between Windowmanagers? Thanks in advance, Malte Under KDE, scrollbar width is a user settable property. I don't know what default is, I have it set to something narrower because, well, I like it. I'm not sure that you can reliably determine this. It would depend on your ability to determine the DE of the current session which is available as a LiveCode global under some distros but not others, and then grab the setting from a config file, if the distro/DE make it available and you know where it is. I don't know what to say about height. Why are you finding this desirable? Do you have some consistent display issue you're trying to resolve one some particular distro? Are you sure you want to be setting this in the face of what might be a (different) user preference? Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Play mp3 on linux ?
On 10/12/2013 08:35 AM, Ludovic Thébault wrote: Hello, I work on an multi platform open source stack that need to play wma or mp3 (voices memos from an dictaphone). Even with dontuseQT true, nothing happen under linux (ubuntu 12). What i missed ? Thanks Are you using the player object? LiveCode uses mplayer under Linux if it's installed. Do you have mplayer installed? The player won't display controls but you can use start and stop in scripts. I believe mplayer plays mp3 wma out of the box. It works here under openSUSE. Good luck Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Play mp3 on linux ?
On 10/12/2013 08:35 AM, Ludovic Thébault wrote: linux (ubuntu 12). What i missed ? Thanks One additional note; you may find that you have to take special precautions to terminate your app and the mplayer process. Closing the app window may not actually end one or both of the processes. Putting something like: on closeStack get shell(killall mplayer) quit end closeStack in the stack script will work in that case. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New install video for using Valentina Studio and Valentina server
On 10/06/2013 02:36 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Interesting enough, there is no similar video for Windows and Linux. It would be very interesting to see instructions for installing Valentina products under Linux which are current and work reliably. The documentation provided with the software seems always out of date and inadequate and has not always been helpful in resolving issues. Getting VServer to work has been problematic at times and the most recent version of LiveCode ADK did not work for me under Linux. Ruslan is a model of patient and generous helpfulness to be sure, but it would be nice if the software and its documentation were more reliable. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revOnline
On 10/01/2013 05:38 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: revOnline appears to be completely dead - searching doesn't work and clicking a keyword does nothing either. Anyone having the same experience? Pete All these functions seem to be working normally here in LC 6.1.1 and 6.5dp1. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MySql vs Valentina
On 08/29/2013 07:12 AM, Michael Mays wrote: Pet peeve of mine people posting messages with links to their product or whatever and not actually clicking them to see it they work. This is almost always a result of an email client reformatting messages to fit within a certain column width, and doing it poorly, and is not necessarily within the control of the sender. It's something to look for whenever an emailed link is broken. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac/WIndows ASCII characters
On 08/17/2013 03:01 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Do you happen to know if all the entities mentioned there are supported within htmltext? Per my other post, they're not all mentioned in the dictionary entry for htmltext LiveCode seems to render all the html entities, in both forms where applicable, listed on this page, under Linux and Windows: https://www.freeformatter.com/html-entities.html You may run into issues of a char not being available using a particular font on a particular system, but LiveCode seems to otherwise be completely fluent in html entities. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac/WIndows ASCII characters
On 08/17/2013 12:34 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: hopefully there's an html equivalent of that. http://www.html-entities.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Genymotion Android emulator
On 07/20/2013 12:59 PM, Richmond wrote: On 07/20/2013 08:23 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Saturday, July 20, 2013, 10:02:38 AM, you wrote: Setting the thing up was, inevitably, slightly difficult as, inevitably, the setup instructions were slightly wrong (but that is normal for Linux). As I am about to install this thing next week, would you care to share any insights about that process? Well . . . The first thing is to get VirtualBox sorted out on your system. The second thing is that Genymotion looks for the SDK which is hard to locate: ~/android-sdks/sdk (where '~' is your Home folder), don't let yourself be distracted by 'android-sdk-linux' after that it goes all funny about something that is supposed to be in the /etc/init.d folder, but isn't; so you have to do some fiddling around, and quite how the thing worked because of my fiddling around I cannot really say. After that things seem comparatively straightforward, and I suspect the best way to get an Android standalone onto one of the devices is by uploading it to some website and then downloading it from inside the emulated device. Unfortunately right now I've got a lot of extraneous stuff on my plate, but I hope, come Sunday night I will be able to upload some reasonably pretty pictures to the Forum. Richmond. Apparently installation woes are a YMMV kind of thing. I just installed without any headscratching at all. Just clicked through the dialogs as they came up and I was all set and running. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Genymotion Android emulator
On 07/20/2013 03:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: That can easily depend on linux distros, especially where init.d comes into play. Well, yes. That could be a part of why YMMV :) I was just saying that my experience was completely without strangeness or difficulty, hoping to lend encouragement to anyone who might have been put off by Richmond's experience. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Genymotion Android emulator
On 07/20/2013 04:55 PM, Richmond wrote: Richmond's experience has been greatly exaggerated by Thee! Thee or thou? Your post makes it sound like a universal Linux problem, using the term inevitably. I don't know what to say about the instructions being wrong (but that is normal for Linux). I didn't read them. I just downloaded the installer and clicked away and magically everything worked, despite it being Linux. One of the things that I find a little disappointing is the propensity for people to say on this list that there's a linux problem when they should say I have a problem on my system. One of the reasons I tend to look into and respond to posts to this list about problems Linux users have is to help clarify when the issue is indeed a linux issue and when the issue might be local. Clarifying this can only help get at the root of a problem and hence a solution. Further, I'm not interested in wasting time in the silly pursuit of convincing people to run Linux as their main OS, but we should be careful about not encouraging the exaggerated fear that Linux is just too much trouble to think about at all. This is a cross-platform developing environment and I think LiveCoders should be encouraged to keep it in mind as a viable platform for app deployment, and an inevitably hostile beast after all, to install for testing during development. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Genymotion Android emulator
On 07/20/2013 05:48 PM, Warren Samples wrote: and an inevitably hostile beast after all, to install for testing during development should, of course, read: ... and NOT an inevitably hostile beast... :D ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: positioning stacks off screen in Linux
On 07/13/2013 02:28 AM, Richmond wrote: and I have a funny feeling that is what you want to happen. Richmond. No, hiding the stack is completely different from moving it to a location outside the visible display area. For most purposes they serve the same practical effect, but not necessarily all. At any rate, this is something that should, if possible, behave the same on all platforms in order to avoid confusion or unpleasant surprises. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: positioning stacks off screen in Linux
On 07/13/2013 10:53 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: But in the meantime, to keep your project moving forward, it can be helpful to explore other options to get the same result. What's happening in your setup that makes hiding the stack impractical? I am curious about the possibility of scrolling or sliding multiple windows as a fixed layout which is wider than the available screen. Of course hiding and showing windows is an option, but that's a different concept which isn't necessarily ideal. It might prove an interesting option on smaller displays. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
positioning stacks off screen in Linux
One of the commonly suggested methods of hiding stacks is setting their location to something that places them out of the view window. This is not working correctly here under openSUSE/KDE/KWin. A stack's location is constrained to the available viewport unless it has been previously dragged and placed so that some part of it past the screen edge. Once that is done, a stack can be positioned anywhere outside the viewport until it is completely within it and we return to our original problem. In order for any part of a stack to be positioned outside the viewport, some part of it must already appear beyond a screen edge. This does not happen under Windows. Do users of other Linux distros/DEs/window managers find this same behavior? Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: positioning stacks off screen in Linux
On 07/12/2013 12:00 PM, Warren Samples wrote: One of the commonly suggested methods of hiding stacks is setting their location to something that places them out of the view window. This is not working correctly here under openSUSE/KDE/KWin. A stack's location is constrained to the available viewport unless it has been previously dragged and placed so that some part of it past the screen edge. Once that is done, a stack can be positioned anywhere outside the viewport until it is completely within it and we return to our original problem. In order for any part of a stack to be positioned outside the viewport, some part of it must already appear beyond a screen edge. This does not happen under Windows. Do users of other Linux distros/DEs/window managers find this same behavior? Warren Trying this is Mint 9 in VirtualBox is even worse. Stacks cannot be moved completely out of view no matter what I try. Anyone else? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: positioning stacks off screen in Linux
On 07/12/2013 07:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Warren- Friday, July 12, 2013, 5:18:12 PM, you wrote: Trying this is Mint 9 in VirtualBox is even worse. Stacks cannot be moved completely out of view no matter what I try. Anyone else? Yep. Verified here on linux mint 14. Thanks, Mark. I've filed this as a bug. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 6.1 Installer Ubuntu
On 07/07/2013 08:03 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: That didn't work either. On the desktop...it still won't open. Have you successfully installed other LiveCode versions in this particular Ubuntu installation? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Fonts look awful in standalones built in v5.5+ -vs- v4.0
On 06/25/2013 09:52 AM, Roger Eller wrote: I tried setting the textfont of this stack to the textfont of stack home. Still it returned empty when I put the textFont of any field in my stack. I have users on XP and 7, so I think I will just loop through all the fields in preOpenStack and set the appropriate textFont. I'll report back if it still looks weird. XP's system font is Tahoma. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823033 Win7's system font is Segoe UI. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa511282.aspx ~Roger On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:26 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 6/24/13 9:14 PM, Roger Eller wrote: This isn't for mobile. I'm seeing this difference on the same machine. It's just IDE -vs- standalone for Windows. Roger, what did your users find? I find that one needs to explicitly set the text font and the text size in order to get readable text in a standalone in Windows 7 and 8. Of course, setting the text size means users' system settings, which may reflect their own needs and preferences, are overridden. I don't believe this is an acceptable default practice. I have filed a bug, which seems to have not generated any interest from the devs, with a stack and a screenshot of that stack in the IDE alongside its built standalone, as well as the example Windows standalone. http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10995 Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Global variable for user name
On 07/02/2013 11:46 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: OSX = $USER Windows=$USERNAME Linux=??? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com $USER ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Global variable for user name
On 07/02/2013 01:48 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard Gaskin ambassador@... writes: Once again, in a world increasingly dominated by POSIX systems, Microsoft continues to marginalize itself with non-standard ways of doing things. ;) ...and drags their partners down with them... http://qz.com/99887/if-windows-phone-continues-to-fail-nokia-has-no-plan-b/ I don't know that this is reason for any great glee. I for one am sick to death of all the usability and performance issues I have with my Samsung/Android phone and am looking forward to the Nokia 925. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: User's language
On 07/01/2013 01:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: You're welcome to try the language stack on my site. In your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/language_specs.livecode; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design Scott, I see this does not include a method for Linux. Tsk, tsk. Perhaps users of other distros can verify this works (or doesn't!) under their favorite flavor, but I can confirm that under Mint and openSUSE LiveCode places this information into a global variable called $LANG which can be directly called. For example, 'get $LANG' or 'put $LANG'. All sorts of interesting stuff revealed by pressing the V button in the Message Box. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: One Year Free
On 06/20/2013 03:34 PM, william humphrey wrote: It clearly says one year of updates. It also says this: Please note this is a subscription license, which will automatically renew annually. You may cancel it at any time. If you cancel your access to LiveCode will revert to the Open Source Community Edition and you will no longer be able to build closed source apps. http://livecode.com/store/livecode/livecode-commercial ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 6.1
On 06/14/2013 04:12 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: do the forums have RSS feeds? There is also a subscribe by email feature including digest options. You can subscribe to individual forums at the bottom of each forum page or choose digest options at http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/ucp.php?i=201 You can also subscribe to individual topics at the bottom of each topic page. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where to write application data
On 06/05/2013 09:40 PM, Devin Asay wrote: For Linux: No idea! In general in Linux, user specific data will go into an invisible directory with the application name, in the user's home directory. So, you can do something like put tData into URL file:~/.myapp/the_data_file remembering that the tilde ~ is already a shortcut to a directory. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated
On 05/31/2013 06:33 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I am ending up with *huge* pdf files. I'm seeing Acrobat 10 pro mac reduce files by over 90%, and preview reduce them by about 80%. These insanely large files bog up the printer, and are bigger than the court allows. Is there some sane way to produce ssmaller files from within hypercard? Does this help at all? http://www.chlab.ch/blog/archives/mac_os_x/compress-pdf-files-with-quartz-filters-from-shell In 10.6 (the latest I have available) the file /System/Library/Printers/Libraries/quartzfilter doesn't exist but there is a file /System/Library/Printers/Libraries/convert which will output a pdf although I don't know if it automatically applies optimizations. Good luck! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How Long is a Sound [Without Using Quicktime]?
On 05/30/2013 02:36 PM, Ray Horsley wrote: I know this is available with QuickTime using the CurrentTime and TimeScale properties but if the user doesn't have QuickTime installed I'd hate to be stuck. Are there any other ways to get the duration of an audio file? ___ http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revFontLoad, Unicode and Windows post-XP ?
On 05/29/2013 07:09 AM, Richmond wrote: Those chars that are in the standard Unicode places are substituted for a standard Windows-native font, but those in the PPU area are left as they are, kerning rules in either the font or inwith Livecode itslef are over-ridden by Windows; something that does not happen with Macintosh, Linux or Windows XP. From my point of view, at least, this is a show stopper for Windows V, 7 and 8. I have been digging around in the LC Documentation and found 'revFontLoad' which looks as though it might be a possibility, except that it seems to rely on absolute paths, when one cannot rely on an end-user putting one's homegrown font exactly where one wants it to be. I would be grateful if anybody who has run up against this or similar problems and has found a way to circumvent them could let me (and the use-list!) know of how they coped with this. Richmond. Richmond, you've been trying get help with this for some time now and I don't recall seeing anyone respond with anything really helpful for you. I suspect that it's because your project and your problem are rather specialized. What happens if you use your font in some other app? Does it work as you would expect it to in other apps or do you get the same substitutions? Is it a LiveCode issue or maybe a Windows issue? Does using revFontLoad resolve the problem on a test machine? If you install the font using a script, you should be able to control where it goes. Why not out install it where Windows expects user installed fonts to be? Perhaps you could find a a utility to make a proper Windows installer and have it put your font where it needs to go? Good luck! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC 6.0.1 OSS Documentation
On 05/19/2013 07:09 AM, Richmond wrote: Is totally cacked on Linux (at least): See thread titled Dictionary Server Error ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unicode display on Linux.
On 05/19/2013 06:28 AM, Richmond wrote: On ALL the Linux systems I have tried that yields an - apparently - empty textField. --- The Solution. The textField isn't empty, just setting the chars to transparent, or the same as the backgroundColor of the textField. So, one has to do this: set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld OOTPUT to the unicodeText of fld OOTPUT numToChar(X) set the textColor of fld OOTPUT to black and this has to be done EVERY TIME a new char is appended. You didn't mention filing a bug report, so it bears asking. Did you file one? There have been past bugs where the cursor has been apparently invisible but in reality was just set to white. Perhaps this bug, now that you have identified the problem, will be relatively easy to fix. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unicode display on Linux.
On 05/19/2013 09:23 AM, Richmond wrote: Bug report or no bug report, I have to work with LC 4.5. A sorted out bug would appear in a later version; one for which I, currently (and many others, I suspect) do not have the money to buy. Therefore, from my point of view, at least, these sorts of work arounds are very important. Richmond. Richmond, Of course it's great to have a workaround and it's admirable that you shared this one! I understand what you're saying about versions and for people who are using an older version for which a bugfix will likely never be made available this is invaluable. However, a bug fix is obviously more ideal than a workaround and users of future versions, which could include you at some point, are better served when fixes are implemented. It does seem you have uncovered a really helpful piece of information regarding this bug that could lead to a fix. Do you have an account at http://quality.runrev.com/ ? Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Playing silly bu**ers with FileZilla.
On 05/17/2013 11:54 AM, Richmond wrote: Hey-Ho You Happy Linux Mages, I have been merrily connecting to my FTP/Web-page site (a subset of Andre Garzia's site, God Bless him) using a Macintosh FTP client for about 3-4 years (Cyberduck) which set things up licketty-split [for those of you who don't know that is a technical term] . . . . . . all jolly well and good, until I want to do the same from Linux . . . Now 'FileZilla' gets all hot and sweaty [see earlier remark about technical terms] and tells me all sorts of funny things about Firewalls and a mismatch with my external IP address . . . . . . why this is, I just don't know as I have been happily using Cyberduck inside Mac OS 10.6 inside VMware Player 5.0.2 on Linux without all this cafuffle . . . Anyway, FileZilla won't play . . . unless, as usual, I am missing something. Richmond. I can't know what's causing your problem, but I have never had any trouble getting FileZilla to work here under Linux. Did you try running the network wizard? You'll find it under the Edit menu. Maybe enabling passive will help. Good luck! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Playing silly bu**ers with FileZilla.
On 05/17/2013 12:48 PM, Richmond wrote: Chucked out FileZilla and went for gFTP: lovely and simple :) Richmond. I used gFTP when I used Mint and it worked well and had all the features I needed. I like FileZilla a little better, but it's clearly causing you only grief. My needs are very basic and I actually do most everything directly from the Dolphin file manager in KDE which lets me work with remote directories via sftp as if they were local. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513
On 05/09/2013 04:23 PM, John Dixon wrote: I should have been a little clearer... I meant the community edition... There was a green banner in the top left when I logged into my products and I downloaded the community edition 6.0.1 build 1513 from there the other day... the green banner has gone and the link (in orange) now only offer to download 6.0.0... I just wondered where they had put it now... they seem to have a habit of letting us play 'hide seek'...:-( There are several download links but they don't seem to have been updated. Changing them works, so: http://files.on-rev.com/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-6_0_1-Mac.dmg http://files.on-rev.com/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-6_0_1-Linux.x86 http://files.on-rev.com/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-6_0_1-Windows.exe Generally (apart form the links not being the very latest version), downloading couldn't really be much easier. One goes to runrev.com and clicks anywhere on the huge banner promoting LiveCode Community Edition and it takes you to a page with download links. To see the download links for LC Community in the Store, including links to other OS versions, login and go to your products and then logout or try this direct link: http://www.runrev.com/store/account/products/ (these links are currently 6.0.0) Good luck! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513
On 05/09/2013 05:49 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: The point is: there is no big red Download button on the main page. There is only a green Learn More button. Apparently, this is sufficient for people to lose interest. I told him clearly, I might be wrong and he should contact support while also pointing him to the main page, but he wasn't interested anymore. With all due respect, while there isn't a Big Red Button it's easy enough and intuitive enough that anyone who's going to be solving logical problems (programming) and has ever used the internet, shouldn't have that hard a time finding the download link. From what you tell us, his issue was with your implied suggestion he might need to contact support to download. (He replied that if he has to write to support at this stage already, meaning even before being able to download, then RunRev is not ready for him). I respectfully offer that Jacquie's suggestion is a good one. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Beginners questions subject headers
On 05/07/2013 10:53 AM, Martin Koob wrote: I wonder how the patent office could sort out who invented or registered the time warp It was probably a drummer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: User notes in dictionary
On 05/02/2013 10:04 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Sort and sort container as examples. And dang it. I wrote those. Craig Running Linux here. Just tried this in 5.5.4 and initially the user notes did not appear under these entries, just as you find. However, clicking on the area they should appear revealed them. Does this work for you? Obviously this isn't a solution since you can't know if they're there waiting to be revealed or not. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: fontSizes bust in 6.0
On 04/18/2013 10:36 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: I ran into this this morning. I had set some font sizes on some fields, running LC 6.0, but the font sizes did not save. They showed on the screen, but when I would build my app and run in the simulator (iOS), the changes were not in effect. And when I closed my stack and reopened it, the changes had not been saved, even though I had saved my stack. What's worse, when I opened my stack in LC 5.5.4 and made the changes and saved, same result. No font size changes were saved when I reopened my stack. I'm just working on a proof of concept, so it's not a huge deal for this stack, but this is a pretty nasty bug. This means I'm going to have to recreate all my fields using 5.5.4, which seems to work. So not sure if it's a glitch with the field object or what. Anyone else seeing this particular behavior? Should I add my findings to the bug report? Thanks, Chris This sounds like a completely different problem, at least as you have outlined it. It seems like it should be filed as a separate bug. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: put URL destroys my file
On 04/16/2013 08:58 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello, Working with LC 4.5.4 I have a dmg file uploaded on my webserver. When downloading it on a mac with a browser via ftp, the dmg keeps in good order. But when doing put URL pUrl into URL (binfile: tFile) the format of the file seems to be destroyed and my mac thinks of it as being a text file. The same procedure with a exe file on windows machine works fine. What do I oversee? Thanks for any hint Tiemo Does it actually not work at all? Assuming it maintains its 'dmg' extension, can you right-click on it and open it properly from the contextual menu, or change its info? It may be that without the webserver and browser passing on the mime-type to the OS that the problem is that the OS can't determine what kind of file it is, and therefore it it seen as just a text file. In this case, setting the fileType to empty (see user notes in the dictionary) might get it to mount. I found that images saved from LiveCode weren't recognized as such by OS X, when I was using it and wanted to open in a text editor. It may be that LiveCode saves things as text files by default in OS X. Good luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: setting up Linux for LiveCode and other dev questions
On 04/12/2013 02:41 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I had already set the permissions to be read write for everyone, moved it out of the downloads folder, and set the executable box. None of those helped. Here's one clue, if I do this: ldd LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-6_0_0-Linux.x86 I get: not a dynamic executable If I then try: readelf -l LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-6_0_0-Linux.x86 | grep ld-linux I get: [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-linux.so.2] Does that give any more clues? BTW, uname -m gives x86_64, and it was the 64 bit version I downloaded. Colin it seems you have installed 64 bit Linux but LiveCode needs 32 bit. You can install the ia32 bit libs or a pure 32 bit version of your distro. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: WOOT!
On 04/10/2013 08:12 AM, in...@kenjikojima.com wrote: Can anybody help us? supp...@runrev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Yet Another Kickstarter stack
On 02/18/2013 01:37 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: 2013/2/18 Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.us Hi Warren, But as I said previously, I did worked on it only a couple of hours, and had no time to make a universal tool, or test it broadly. This stack is free, open and bound to be modified by whoever... In this case, I believe changing the font and/or font size of the field should do the job quickly. Otherwise, except for the truncated text, does everything else works on Linux ? Regards, Thierry Thierry, Your stack seems to perform its functions perfectly well. It has the same display issue for me under Windows 7, too. Here's an example of code along the lines of what I suggested, which works for me here in both Linux and Windows 7. (watch for linebreaks in script forced by the email client -- I've inserted extra returns between script lines to help clarify) # CODE # on preopenstack set the height of field infos to the formattedheight of field infos set the top of field infos to (the bottom of group ID 1058 - 4) --taking into account multiple sets of margins set the height of this stack to (the bottom of field infos - 6) end preopenstack # END CODE # Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Yet Another Kickstarter stack
On 02/18/2013 09:37 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: Hi Warren, You're talking of the bottom field, but what about the other labels, and the Finfos field where you get some datas in when moving the mouse over the graph? Are they all Ok? Well, personaly, I prefer changing the font (type or size) instead of changing the layout which could mess up the whole picture. The issue with the field infos is a result of putting multiple lines into a fixed height which does not accommodate them on all platforms or all users' machines. The suggested method allows for automatic adjustment according to the needs of the user's platform and whatever individual settings that user may prefer. This includes possibilities you could never predict or test for, and things you really should be careful about forcing on the user such as font and text size. It is not a significant alteration of your layout and on my Linux and Windows 7 setups is definitely an improvement. Did you try it on your Mac? More than one way? Sure. Maybe we can learn something from all the thought that's been put into displaying content in web browsers. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Yet Another Kickstarter stack
On 02/17/2013 11:58 PM, Thierry Douez wrote: Sorry, but haven't any linux LC. I'm glad you find a workaround. Have a nice day, THierry I also downloaded the stack for Linux and also see the truncated text in that field. One possible solution would be to let the field set its own height (set the height of the field to the formattedHeight of the field) and provide a fixed amount of padding between it and the group above it and/or between the bottom of it and the bottom of the stack. This sort of flexible size/positioning scheme could be broadly useful to help avoid issues caused by unpredictable factors and maybe aid in the graceful implementation of such user-friendly ideas as selectable text size and fonts where that might be desirable. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection
On 01/19/2013 11:51 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/19/13 9:16 PM, Warren Samples wrote: For all practical purposes, the market is closed and developers really do, as a practical observation, have to distribute through Apple in order to reach the platform. I think there will be third-party distributions for quite a while yet. Apple can't prohibit outside apps on Macs because too many of them can't be sandboxed. BBEdit is one of those, for example. So unless the rules change, some software will always have to be side loaded. I do agree though that new Mac users won't likely look elsewhere, but as they become more experienced they might. I'm still not happy with the situation, I don't like it at all. But I'm not sure third-party installs will completely disappear either. My comment was in reference to iOS devices. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection
On 01/20/2013 04:10 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: They are saying, can you make more utilitarian and useful to the general market? Why is that pissing so many people off in the name of freedom? I don't get it. It seems some, not you I think, have a bone to pick with apple, and this seems an easy target. Whose argument are you dismissing as being probably disingenuous? It might be that this is the bone and here it is being picked, no? As far as they are saying, can you make.. I wonder why it's so hard for you to understand why that strikes some people as arrogant and unacceptable. Not that I'm saying you have to agree and support this position, but that you say you don't get it. It's ironic that you chose the word utilitarian because that word often describes a simple tool that serves its purpose without frills or adornment. Precisely what might cause an app to be rejected as in this case. As for the general market part of your comment, can't we ask, does failing to serve a large group of people mean that something is not acutely useful to some smaller group for which it is intended? I really don't think either part of your statement is true regarding this particular rationale for rejection. It seems to me that Apple is saying it just doesn't have enough bells and whistles to fit the image of 'kewl' that we want to maintain for our devices. Just that simple. I don't feel Apple has any interest that justifiably trumps the interest of consumers to determine for themselves what is useful and valuable or the interests of developers who have an idea they believe is useful and worth their time to develop and attach their name to. There are a lot of people who still adhere to the adage that less is more. Certainly at least a few of them use iDevices. Sincerely, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection
On 01/20/2013 06:45 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: All your arguments rest inexorably on the precept that Apple owes you something. Show me in any contract you and Apple have entered into where Apple is obligated to accept any app you submit! I'm sorry, Bob, but this is just BS. It's not about what Apple owes anybody, but what is arguably best for *all* parties. Apple exerts supervision and total control over the availability and distribution of applications for iOS devices. It is undeniable that Apple has the final say as a contractual and a practical matter. However, that does not automatically mean that all of Apple's policies and decisions are correct, sensible and otherwise beyond criticism. I am somewhat disturbed, Bob, that you are so (apparently) hostile to the notion that someone might protest the criteria generally, or some specific decision specifically, regarding the acceptance or rejection of applications, and the ease with which you dismiss such protest as baseless. I don't know if the courts might decide Apple has crossed a line which makes its policies actionable, but more importantly, there seems to be in affect a policy which is in the end very contrary to much of what some of us (once) associat(ed) with Apple. Warren (I've got a whole skeleton's worth of bones to pick and this is just one of them) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection
On 01/19/2013 07:35 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: They are willing to put up your app absolutely freely, if you like, so long as you don't charge for it. That's pretty generous. What they actually owe anyone in terms of what they allow is precisely jack diddly squat. It's their basketball hoop, their garage, and their basketball. Don't like the rules? Go to the next door neighbor's garage and play with him. Actually, Bob, they are not willing; they demand this. It was their decision that they be the sole legitimate distributor of iOS apps and there is *no* next door neighbor's garage for iDevice users and by extension anyone who has an idea to develop for the iOS platform. My opinion is that given Apple's demand for exclusive distribution rights, that they *ought* to be less restrictive regarding acceptible utility. They are hurting users and developers alike. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How to apply for jobs
On 01/19/2013 08:04 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: erm... pardon me... HTML, mySQL and C are not, you know of course, assembly language... and assembly language is, of course, you know... not plural. It's very possible that this is a warning that you don't want the job, but it may be that your gut reaction is the perfect response which they are hoping for. If it's not then for sure you don't want the job! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection
On 01/19/2013 09:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't like it either, but to be fair, developers don't *have* to sell through the Apple stores. That's probably what keeps their system legit. I'm not a lawyer, but... (My father was, hehe) For all practical purposes, the market is closed and developers really do, as a practical observation, have to distribute through Apple in order to reach the platform. I suspect Apple's lawyers are more likely to press the they can make it function in a browser (despite the user experience issues implied) therefore this is merely a permissible inconvenience argument. I'd say this is my two cents, but being speculation rather than opinion it's worth even less than that :D Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection
On 01/17/2013 06:50 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: At least people on Android can enjoy easy access to the traffic conditions. Cheers andre It seems perverse to me that a developer might be forced to add gratuitous features to a useful uni-purpose utility in order to appeal to the gadget lust of a reviewer who has no personal interest in the actual purpose of the tool. The alternative suggestion to develop it as a webapp is no less troubling to me. That clearly would make a less convenient user experience as one must open the browser and then navigate to a URL. This diminishes not just the proposed application, but the utility of the device itself. My two cents. Good luck, Andre! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection
On 01/18/2013 12:46 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: Next morning you discover to your dismay that your HR department has been overwhelmed with calls and emails in the hundreds of thousands, because people ignored your prerequisites, and everyone from housewives with no degree to gardeners and janitors filled out applications or called directly. This is something like what Apple is up against. It's true that at first Apple wanted volume. Now, not so much. One could say the early bird gets the worm. Had this app been developed in the first 6 months of the app store going online, I bet they would have snatched it up right away. Bob This analogy does not diminish the point in any way that Apple may be denying users the ability to install and use applications which could be very useful to them, based on criteria which can be said to encourage and even demand bloat. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Animated gif editor
On 01/18/2013 12:57 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: Only thing is, it shows up in the dock! It would be nice if there were some kind of option to prevent a standalone from appearing in the dock. Does this work? http://regardlater.wordpress.com/2011/04/18/how-to-hide-mac-application-from-showing-in-the-dock/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: launch document synchronous on Linux only?
On 01/18/2013 11:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I've somehow never noticed that on Linux the launch document command behaves synchronously, while it's not synchronous on Mac or IIRC on Windows. This winds up being especially bad for RunRev: you can't use the IDE after choosing Help-User Guide. I've filed a bug report for the IDE issue: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10649 Richard, this is not happening here running LC 5.5.3 under openSUSE 12.1, KDE. Neither launching the User Guide nor using launch document to open some other file in an application interfere with the IDE - it's not blocking. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: launch document synchronous on Linux only?
On 01/19/2013 12:47 AM, Warren Samples wrote: I've somehow never noticed that on Linux the launch document command behaves synchronously, while it's not synchronous on Mac or IIRC on Windows. This winds up being especially bad for RunRev: you can't use the IDE after choosing Help-User Guide. I've filed a bug report for the IDE issue: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10649 Richard, this is not happening here running LC 5.5.3 under openSUSE 12.1, KDE. Neither launching the User Guide nor using launch document to open some other file in an application interfere with the IDE - it's not blocking. Also does not happen in Mint 9, Gnome or openSUSE 12.2, KDE, both running LC 5.5.2. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: Quicktime problems on windows
On 10/10/2012 12:15 PM, Richmond wrote: start considering some sort of internal media player (that's truly cross-platform) that is part of Livecode itself. This was mentioned as part of the road map, along with a cross-platform (including Linux) browser and unicode just works a few moons ago. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: Quicktime problems on windows
On 10/10/2012 08:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: NDA alert On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.uswrote: On 10/10/2012 12:15 PM, Richmond wrote: start considering some sort of internal media player (that's truly cross-platform) that is part of Livecode itself. This was mentioned as part of the road map, along with a cross-platform (including Linux) browser and unicode just works a few moons ago. Warren I know, I'm full of Nyquil and didn't realize which list this was until too late. *hangs head in shame* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Storing location for a preferences file in a standalone stack?
On 09/30/2012 10:35 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Unless the person on the keyboard has an administrator level access or password at hand, then you will not be able to write anywhere outside that persons folder.Your unpriviledged user can't write to /Library or /System, only the super user can. Does /Users/Shared still exist? Shouldn't that be usable for shared preferences? If this still exists and is useable as in the past, a single preferences stack in this location could be used to store individual personal preferences for multiple users if users are logging into the app, using a conditional, and global prefs if needed. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 5.5.2 Linux display bug?
On 09/18/2012 11:13 PM, ha...@exformedia.se wrote: When running under iOS the cursor is actually there but is white and thus not showing in most fields. Is that the case under Linux too or is this a separate iOS bug? :-Håkan Yes, this does seem to be the case under Linux. It's revealed when you set a background color. Thank you! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 5.5.2 Linux display bug?
On 09/16/2012 10:21 PM, Warren Samples wrote: Hello, I find that the the blinking insertion cursor is not displayed in Livecode 5.5.2 in the IDE, and carrying over through a standalone. This happens running openSUSE 12.1, KDE and Mint 9, Gnome. Toggling desktop effects in SUSE makes no difference, Mint is running in VirtualBox without effects. It's a little awkward. I also have the phantom pointer in SUSE, where after launch the pointer disappears over the IDE toolbar and tools palette. It displays when over the message box or a stack, but disappears again over the toolbar and tools palette. It also does not display over an inspector palette, but does change to the I bar over the text fields (insertion point is still invisible), disappearing again when leaving them. Opening the dictionary resolves the problem for the rest of the session. The dictionary doesn't have to stay open. Toggling effects doesn't fix it and I tried a couple of different cursor themes, animated and non-animated, and that didn't make a difference. Can someone confirm or deny? Warren Thank you Richard and Roger. I have filed a bug report, 10393 Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
5.5.2 Linux display bug?
Hello, I find that the the blinking insertion cursor is not displayed in Livecode 5.5.2 in the IDE, and carrying over through a standalone. This happens running openSUSE 12.1, KDE and Mint 9, Gnome. Toggling desktop effects in SUSE makes no difference, Mint is running in VirtualBox without effects. It's a little awkward. I also have the phantom pointer in SUSE, where after launch the pointer disappears over the IDE toolbar and tools palette. It displays when over the message box or a stack, but disappears again over the toolbar and tools palette. It also does not display over an inspector palette, but does change to the I bar over the text fields (insertion point is still invisible), disappearing again when leaving them. Opening the dictionary resolves the problem for the rest of the session. The dictionary doesn't have to stay open. Toggling effects doesn't fix it and I tried a couple of different cursor themes, animated and non-animated, and that didn't make a difference. Can someone confirm or deny? Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
On 09/14/2012 08:13 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: I'm beginning to think Matthias' idea of putting the environment data on the clipboard and asking the user to paste it into the email client of his/her choice may be the easiest and safest way to do this. Maybe I'm coming in late to this thread, but if the body of the email is less than 1k have you considered just sending it along as a param in the url?: on mouseUp put some...@somewhere.com into tAddress put Hello! into tSubject put This is the bodycrof the email. into tBody put mailto:; tAddress ? \ subject= tSubject \ body= tBody into tEmailURL launch url tEmailURL end mouseUp I use this to have customers send bug reports, and I can grab the OS version, my app's version, screenRect, and other useful info along with the relevant portion of the executionContexts all within the size limit on the URL passed to most email clients. So far the only really restrictive client I've come across in years is GMail, which apparently allows only ~512 chars; everything else our users have tested on allows at least 1k, which has been plenty to get the info I need from them. This script causes unexpected problems here. It launches KMail on my system despite my having Thunderbird properly set as the default system email client. What happens if no desktop client is being used? (I honestly don't know, I have never been one of those people who use web-based mail.) Can one be assured that that behavior will be consistent? A second problem on my system, running Linux, is that the body is not inserted into the message. This seems to be related to the number of parameters the system will pass to the email client. It accepts only two, apparently. So, recipient's address + (pick one: cc, subject OR body). revMail also behaves exactly this way here. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
On 09/13/2012 04:21 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: The purpose for this is for a user of my software to send an email to support and to automatically attach a file to the email that contains information about the user's environment. Sarah's stack requires the name of the SMTP server and since that will be different on each user's machine and I don't know in advance what it is, her stack won't help me unfortunately. Any other suggestions? I can embed the information in the body of the email instead of in an attachment so not hugely important. Or I could just rewrite my app to run on iPhone/Android, then I could use the commands provided by LC for those platforms:-) Pete lcSQL Softwarehttp://www.lcsql.com You can expect unexpected problems using either SMTP or using revMail. Port blocking may require the use of nonstandard ports for SMTP and not everyone will have a desktop email client set up. You could use an SMTP relay service and provide the address and credentials yourself. Some SMTP relay services allow you to use non-standard ports. Some of them are quite inexpensive for low volume use, so that could help cover some scenarios if you're really determined to use SMTP. The server side script solution is far less problematic. You could also look into a script that stores the info in a database and you collect it manually. Good Luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] EULA and legality
On 09/12/2012 08:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: There are other questions we can answer for ourselves, like: Do we want to enter into a relationship with a vendor who has already clearly expressed in writing that they don't want us? Forcing someone into a relationship just makes for an unhealthy relationship. There are other fish in the sea. Choose one. Be happy. -- Richard Gaskin Indeed! Instead of can I get away with this maybe ask why bother. I'm sure my negative interpretation of many of Apple's policies and decisions over the years is a sign of some grave personality disorder, but what I viewed as demonstrations of coercion and manipulation helped make it easy to move away from OS X as it became necessary to move from PPC to Intel. It was my decision to have no part of it. When the questions don't seem to have good answers it's often because you're not asking good questions ;) Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)
On 09/11/2012 12:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I already do use the RSS feed. But if you want to participate, it's pretty useless. You have to open a web browser, find the post, log in, and reply. Really? Your news reader doesn't display the forum and allow you to post, or it won't properly open an external browser directly to the post? Neither your reader nor your browser will let you use the option to stay logged in between visits? Convenience is a subjective matter, but useless is an overly harsh and unwarranted qualification. I don't have any trouble reading and posting to the forum from my news reader, and haven't in any news reader I've ever used. (There have been many, in OS X and now in Linux.) Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)
On 09/11/2012 04:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Yes, it will open a browser if I ask it to. That's an extra step which I need to wait for. Then I have to wait for the forum servers. Then I have to log in and deal with that horrible little text box with all the silly html buttons and gadgets. I choose not to auto-register on my mobile device, which is where I read the RSS. On my desktop machine I simply go to the forums in a browser and deal with server lag in the usual way -- waiting for a page to load, going back to the list, waiting for the list to load, going to another new post, waiting for that to load, etc. It takes me a few minutes to read the lists, it takes me half an hour or more to read the daily posts on the forums. Perhaps your internet connection is faster or you have influence with the server. My point is simply that there is an easy option available that isn't enabled. It would save me a lot of time. I could participate with the same ease as I do in this mailing list. Background tabs. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)
On 09/11/2012 05:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Using an RSS reader on a desktop machine isn't any easier than just going to the forums in a browser, it's just another layer. You complained about waiting while using your browser and background tabs would certainly help you there in many cases. RSS offers some conveniences over simply browsing the forum, but it's a fairly minor thing, so I leave you to your preference there without further comment. I don't have anything to say about the current limitations of tablet computing, either :D Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] EULA and legality
On 09/09/2012 12:45 PM, Richmond wrote: I'm sure there are many factors involved, but I think one of the primary reasons Apple doesn't want the OS used on other hardware is to avoid the mess that Microsoft got themselves into by licensing to any PC distributor. By retaining control of both software and hardware, it just works -- at least, most of the time. Funny how Linux distros don't seem to get in the mess regardless. Richmond, you must be aware that there are all kinds of hardware compatibility issues one has to consider when contemplating putting Linux on any computer. It is also true that some of these issues have resulted in hostility directed at hardware vendors who aren't seen as friendly enough to the open-source community. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] EULA and legality
On 09/08/2012 09:34 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: It's unclear to me why the fact that I buy a license to use software versus owning the actual software itself has any effect on what I choose to do with it. Why is it unclear? Because you don't understand it or because you don't like it? You are licensed to use the software but only so long as you are using it according to the terms under which Apple (in this example) agrees to make it available to you. Your license ends when you use the software outside those terms. Deciding that the terms don't suit you isn't license to ignore them. Your legal option is to find some other software with terms you like better or that fit your particular scenario better. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Newbie SQLite and LC learing problems
On 08/24/2012 11:43 AM, Blair Lewis wrote: I'm new to LC and am I am looking for help with using DB's with LC. I am coming from Filemaker and I am unable to find a decent tutorial on how to use SQLite that is either complete or useful. Does anyone have a sample stack and DB that I can pull apart to learn. I'm particularly having difficulty with creating relationships for creating and retrieving data combining multiple tables. Something about lastrow ID keeps coming up but I'm a little lost Blair Hi Blair, This might be a good place to start. Read the whole thread. You'll find an example stack that was developed over the course of the thread. Good luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Newbie SQLite and LC learing problems
On 08/24/2012 11:53 AM, Warren Samples wrote: On 08/24/2012 11:43 AM, Blair Lewis wrote: I'm new to LC and am I am looking for help with using DB's with LC. I am coming from Filemaker and I am unable to find a decent tutorial on how to use SQLite that is either complete or useful. Does anyone have a sample stack and DB that I can pull apart to learn. I'm particularly having difficulty with creating relationships for creating and retrieving data combining multiple tables. Something about lastrow ID keeps coming up but I'm a little lost Blair Hi Blair, This might be a good place to start. Read the whole thread. You'll find an example stack that was developed over the course of the thread. Good luck, Warren Well, it makes more sense if I include the link O.o http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7t=7024hilit=sqlite+crud ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another OS X Lion Weirdness
On 08/23/2012 11:53 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: I just opened a document in the iWork/Numbers spreadsheet program that I hadn't opened for perhaps a couple of weeks. It opened just fine but when I tried to make a change to it I got the message: The file Costs is locked because you haven't made any changes to it recently. There were options to Unlock, Work on a duplicate copy or Cancel the change. So now Apple apparently thinks it's appropriate to silently lock files behind my back on the basis of me not accessing them for some arbitrary, unknown period of time. Does anyone know of a way to switch off thisfeature? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/24/turn-off-file-locking-in-os-x-lion/ I am reading that Apple dropped this from 10.8 and some people miss it. It's almost two years since I left OS X for Linux and I miss it not at all :D Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Pricing
On 08/22/2012 02:29 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Yes, I had misunderstood. It seems that the situation is that Linux is in fact on a par with Mac+Windows. You buy either Android or IOS, and then you pick one included desktop, which can either be Linux or Mac+Windows, and the price seems to be the same: $500. On the Customize LiveCode Package page that selecting a Perpetual mobile option takes you to, you can deselect the mobile option and purchase just a desktop deployment package for $299, Mac/Win or Linux. This is obviously most unintuitive, but it is still an option. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Pricing
On 08/21/2012 05:02 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Kevin- Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 1:00:29 PM, you wrote: As far as the store front is concerned, we are showing the most popular products there. You can select a license and customize it, for example to get a desktop only product for a single platform. That is a design It's not at all clear to me how to do that. Clicking on any of the Buy links doesn't allow any configuration. Try the Android or iOS Perpetual option. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: changes to the runrev store
On 08/18/2012 01:12 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: Does that state that for $999 per license does not include any updates??? That's how I read it. It doesn't run out and my guess is this price is to handle the people that buy lc and still expect support 20 versions later. does that state that for 1,499 I get a license with both no expiration and full updates? That's also how I read it which is a really good deal. Snap that up folks before runrev realize they set the price too low. It should be 2k+ at least. A long time ago when I did some work for them I took a perpetual desktop license (I didn't think to state I wanted all future platforms included) for $2500. Who knows what that would be in today's money. Why do you need to sell pay as you go to your clients? Cheers Monte You're not reading it correctly. There's a fuller explanation if you select one of those options. Perpetual is relative to the pay as you go model. Pay as you go means your license to use any version of LiveCode which is covered under that agreement ends if you stop paying the monthly fee. Perpetual means that your license remains intact after its term expires and you can continue to use all versions of LiveCode which you were entitled to up to the date of expiration (and probably any subsequent minor point updates?) as do the standard traditional licenses. LiveCode Complete: For serious developers everywhere, the Master bundle. Get LiveCode Development Tools, every deployment option including Desktop, Web, Mobile and Server, a year of update releases and access to the LiveCode Developer Program. Save yourself almost $900 by getting these essential tools in one package, plus get the peace of mind of knowing you will automatically receive every new update we release. This is a subscription product, it will automatically renew annually for $749, you may cancel your subscription at any time. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: changes to the runrev store
On 08/18/2012 01:39 AM, Warren Samples wrote: On 08/18/2012 01:12 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: Does that state that for $999 per license does not include any updates??? That's how I read it. It doesn't run out and my guess is this price is to handle the people that buy lc and still expect support 20 versions later. does that state that for 1,499 I get a license with both no expiration and full updates? That's also how I read it which is a really good deal. Snap that up folks before runrev realize they set the price too low. It should be 2k+ at least. A long time ago when I did some work for them I took a perpetual desktop license (I didn't think to state I wanted all future platforms included) for $2500. Who knows what that would be in today's money. Why do you need to sell pay as you go to your clients? Cheers Monte You're not reading it correctly. There's a fuller explanation if you select one of those options. Perpetual is relative to the pay as you go model. Pay as you go means your license to use any version of LiveCode which is covered under that agreement ends if you stop paying the monthly fee. Perpetual means that your license remains intact after its term expires and you can continue to use all versions of LiveCode which you were entitled to up to the date of expiration (and probably any subsequent minor point updates?) as do the standard traditional licenses. LiveCode Complete: For serious developers everywhere, the Master bundle. Get LiveCode Development Tools, every deployment option including Desktop, Web, Mobile and Server, a year of update releases and access to the LiveCode Developer Program. Save yourself almost $900 by getting these essential tools in one package, plus get the peace of mind of knowing you will automatically receive every new update we release. This is a subscription product, it will automatically renew annually for $749, you may cancel your subscription at any time. Warren Although maybe I'm not reading Monte's response quite right... :D It does seem that it's $999 for no updates beyond minor point upgrades with the Gold package. How many months is that approximately, compared to the full year you're guaranteed to get with the Complete package? I like that Linux is automatically available under all desktop licenses and hopefully a few more people will be encouraged to consider testing their work for compatibility under Linux. (Ok. I'm not holding my breath, but the most recent license structure surely discouraged it!) Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN: GLX2 3.0.10
On 08/03/2012 07:55 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Friday, August 3, 2012, 8:38:03 AM, you wrote: No no problem, it's just that it's fairly typical to only be able to undo back to the last save. I can see myself in a fit of undo's after making some horrible coding error that made everything go wrong, hitting undo lots of times. I guess I will have to avoid that. :-) OK. I'll put that on my to-do list. I was thinking that keeping the undo list back as far as possible was a benefit, but I can't come up with much of a use case where I'd want to keep it past the last save. Would this be affected by the GLX autosave preference? Save Every x compiles If so, might this not limit the value of undo? How convenient would it be to allow the user to set the number of undos, which would be independent of any saves? Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Between the lines of the previous post.
On 07/15/2012 10:59 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I would routinely quote the relevant part of the message and then add my comment afterwards, but my colleagues using mobile devices would complain because they would have to fully open the email to see what I had added. So, now I say my comment ahead of the quoted text. If there are further comments to make I will quote the relevant part of the previous message, after my new comment. In general, just quote enough of the previous message to make it clear what you are adding. In this case I didn't need to quote anything. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode It wasn't all that long ago that this topic was explored here, was it? I disagree that interspersing response, point by point, within the body of the original message is more readable, even though I understand the argument and agree that it has merit. It can become downright crazy-making after a few levels of reply. I am of the camp that suggests it's most sensible to reply after the original message (seems logical, doesn't it?) although I see what Colin is talking about and have to admit I had never thought of that, but I don't bother with email on my phone at all. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Between the lines of the previous post.
On 07/15/2012 12:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: And in all cases, bar none, all the nested signature lines should be removed. I try to do that and note with some chagrin that I failed in my previous reply to this thread :D Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: which Linux?
On 07/03/2012 03:11 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I got around the difficulty of sharing files by putting the test files onto a server that I could log onto with Linux. What should the name be for a Linux LiveCode standalone? It came out named as untitled 1 with no extension, an dLinux thought that was a document. I tried renaming it to be test.exe, but that seemed to be the wrong thing to do too. What should a LiveCode Linux standalone be named? It doesn't have or need an extension. Make sure its permissions include is executable. Does Maya suffer the dictionary crash for you? I installed 64 bit Maya here a couple weeks ago and it has that problem. Mint 9 and 10 do not (for me) openSUSE 11.4 and 12.1 also do not. Be aware of this before you do any demo-ing! Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: which Linux?
On 07/03/2012 03:22 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: How in Linux would I do that? One way, right-click the file and select the permissions pane in the dialog and check the box. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: which Linux?
On 07/03/2012 03:22 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: How in Linux would I do that? Oh, I skipped something... select Properties and then permissions... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: which Linux?
On 07/03/2012 03:30 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: It says the owner is root. If you change it to your user, does it ask for authentication or tell you it won't allow that? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: which Linux?
On 07/03/2012 03:30 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: All the options in Permissions are grayed out. It says the owner is root. Open a terminal and type: sudo chown your user path to file Replace your user with your user's name. Type the root password at the prompt. Should do it. Good luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: which Linux?
On 07/03/2012 03:42 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I got further by copying the files from the server to the desktop, then I could check the box that says allow this file to run as a program. But double clicking it leads to a failed to execute file test - Failed to execute child process /home/mint/Desktop/LinuxTest/test (No such file or directory). I'm building the application from v5.5.1 on my Mac. Did you install 32-bit or 64-bit Mint? type 'ldd path to file' in a terminal. What does that say? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: which Linux?
On 07/03/2012 03:58 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I installed 64 bit. Are LiveCode apps only 32 bit? ldd tells me that it's not a dynamic executable. Yes, that's your current problem. You'll have to install the ia32 libs. Do an update first. Installing these libs was a pain for me in Maya, with strange problems, but I hadn't done any updates before I tried. Of course you could just install a 32-bit Linux. You can download ready-to-go virtual machine images of many distros if you want to save the aggravation of installation. Search the internet and you'll find a couple of sources that offer a long list. Good luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Linux: answer file always shows hidden files?
On 06/21/2012 11:39 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It seems that LiveCode's answer file command on Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) always shows hidden files, regardless of whether I have that setting turned on in the file manager. Is there some secret param I can use to turn that off? If not, I'll file a bug report. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys to expand a tiny bit... I have my file manager, Dolphin in KDE, set to show hidden files but they do not appear in the file selector dialog displayed by answer file. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
