Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

That is a great idea! 

Bob S


> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:44 , Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I ended up going with this solution.
> 
> https://www.xcodeclub.com/


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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

I ended up going with this solution.

https://www.xcodeclub.com/

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:47 AM Tom Glod  wrote:

> hahahah...richmond..i hear you.
>
> Sean, good advice with the NUC...looking into it
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:19 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> My experience of dual boot machines has been distinctly negative: probably
>> because of the way my mind works . . .
>>
>> I'll be merrily working along on one Operating system when some "clever"
>> idea will occur to me about something
>> on another operating system: but to try out that idea I have to shutdown
>> my
>> machine and boot into another OS.
>>
>> That's why I have a big rooms with 9 computers . . .
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:59 AM Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Get an Intel Nuc. By far the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to get a
>> > Hackintosh up and running. Lots of youtube about it and tonnes of
>> helpful
>> > people with excellent advice. Works out better than an actual Mac Mini
>> by
>> > far. And dual bootable for Linux and Windows too.
>> >
>> > Sean Cole
>> > *Pi Digital *
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
>> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Am I allowed to swear on this forum?cuz F YES! that is what I
>> want to
>> > > dodual boot. :D Thanks!!
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM JJS via use-livecode <
>> > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and
>> > make
>> > > > it an Hackintosh and dualboot
>> > > >
>> > > > check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it
>> > > >
>> > > > You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
>> > > > > See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS
>> 10.15
>> > .
>> > > > > . .
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to
>> MacOS
>> > > > > 10.13.6 !
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will
>> upgrade
>> > to
>> > > > > MacOS 10.15:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Worth a look!
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
>> > > > >> Hi peeps,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to
>> buy
>> > > an
>> > > > >> apple mac.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying
>> > > refurbished.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Tom
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

hahahah...richmond..i hear you.

Sean, good advice with the NUC...looking into it

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:19 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> My experience of dual boot machines has been distinctly negative: probably
> because of the way my mind works . . .
>
> I'll be merrily working along on one Operating system when some "clever"
> idea will occur to me about something
> on another operating system: but to try out that idea I have to shutdown my
> machine and boot into another OS.
>
> That's why I have a big rooms with 9 computers . . .
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:59 AM Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Get an Intel Nuc. By far the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to get a
> > Hackintosh up and running. Lots of youtube about it and tonnes of helpful
> > people with excellent advice. Works out better than an actual Mac Mini by
> > far. And dual bootable for Linux and Windows too.
> >
> > Sean Cole
> > *Pi Digital *
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Am I allowed to swear on this forum?cuz F YES! that is what I want
> to
> > > dodual boot. :D Thanks!!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM JJS via use-livecode <
> > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and
> > make
> > > > it an Hackintosh and dualboot
> > > >
> > > > check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it
> > > >
> > > > You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
> > > > > See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS
> 10.15
> > .
> > > > > . .
> > > > >
> > > > > The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to
> MacOS
> > > > > 10.13.6 !
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade
> > to
> > > > > MacOS 10.15:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Worth a look!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> > > > >> Hi peeps,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to
> buy
> > > an
> > > > >> apple mac.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying
> > > refurbished.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Tom
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

My experience of dual boot machines has been distinctly negative: probably
because of the way my mind works . . .

I'll be merrily working along on one Operating system when some "clever"
idea will occur to me about something
on another operating system: but to try out that idea I have to shutdown my
machine and boot into another OS.

That's why I have a big rooms with 9 computers . . .

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:59 AM Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Get an Intel Nuc. By far the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to get a
> Hackintosh up and running. Lots of youtube about it and tonnes of helpful
> people with excellent advice. Works out better than an actual Mac Mini by
> far. And dual bootable for Linux and Windows too.
>
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital *
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Am I allowed to swear on this forum?cuz F YES! that is what I want to
> > dodual boot. :D Thanks!!
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM JJS via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and
> make
> > > it an Hackintosh and dualboot
> > >
> > > check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it
> > >
> > > You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator
> > >
> > >
> > > Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
> > > > See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15
> .
> > > > . .
> > > >
> > > > The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS
> > > > 10.13.6 !
> > > >
> > > > If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade
> to
> > > > MacOS 10.15:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Worth a look!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> > > >> Hi peeps,
> > > >>
> > > >> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy
> > an
> > > >> apple mac.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying
> > refurbished.
> > > >>
> > > >> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Get an Intel Nuc. By far the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to get a
Hackintosh up and running. Lots of youtube about it and tonnes of helpful
people with excellent advice. Works out better than an actual Mac Mini by
far. And dual bootable for Linux and Windows too.

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital *


On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Am I allowed to swear on this forum?cuz F YES! that is what I want to
> dodual boot. :D Thanks!!
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM JJS via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and make
> > it an Hackintosh and dualboot
> >
> > check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it
> >
> > You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator
> >
> >
> > Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
> > > See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 .
> > > . .
> > >
> > > The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS
> > > 10.13.6 !
> > >
> > > If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to
> > > MacOS 10.15:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
> > >
> > >
> > > Worth a look!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> > >> Hi peeps,
> > >>
> > >> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy
> an
> > >> apple mac.
> > >>
> > >> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying
> refurbished.
> > >>
> > >> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Am I allowed to swear on this forum?cuz F YES! that is what I want to
dodual boot. :D Thanks!!

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM JJS via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and make
> it an Hackintosh and dualboot
>
> check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it
>
> You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator
>
>
> Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
> > See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 .
> > . .
> >
> > The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS
> > 10.13.6 !
> >
> > If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to
> > MacOS 10.15:
> >
> >
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
> >
> >
> > Worth a look!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> >> Hi peeps,
> >>
> >> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> >> apple mac.
> >>
> >> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
> >>
> >> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> >>
> >>
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> >>
> >>
> >> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[JJS via use-livecode]

Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and make 
it an Hackintosh and dualboot


check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it

You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator


Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 . 
. .


The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS 
10.13.6 !


If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to 
MacOS 10.15:


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined 



Worth a look!



On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:

Hi peeps,

I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
apple mac.

I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.

Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?

https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade 



I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.

Thanks,

Tom






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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Thank you all for being so dependable and willing to help.  Now I know what
to look for...something that runs 10.15.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:46 PM Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 . . .
>
> The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS
> 10.13.6 !
>
> If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to
> MacOS 10.15:
>
>
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
>
> Worth a look!
>
>
>
> On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi peeps,
> >
> > I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> > apple mac.
> >
> > I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
> >
> > Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> >
> >
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> >
> > I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Richmond via use-livecode]

See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 . . .

The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS 
10.13.6 !


If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to 
MacOS 10.15:


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined

Worth a look!



On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:

Hi peeps,

I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
apple mac.

I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.

Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?

https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade

I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.

Thanks,

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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Jerry Jensen via use-livecode]

It could work, but its pretty long in the tooth. Its a 2011 model.
4GB RAM is not enough these days. It is user-upgradable.
USB 2.0 ports are frustratingly slow and, shall I say, less reliable than 3.0 
and above.
That model is at is maximum OS support (10.13). That is also the oldest OS that 
is getting security updates, so next year it will probably cease. 10.15 is 
current. I don’t know the details of iOS and XCode support versions. Maybe 
newer XCode requires newer OS?
.Jerry

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi peeps,
> 
> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> apple mac.
> 
> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
> 
> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> 
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> 
> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode]

First, it is around 9 years old, it can't run Catalina and i am 90% sure it
cannot run Mojave.

Sometime in the near future you will no longer be able to upgrade to the
latest version of XCode at which point you will need a new Mac. It is
possible that you already cannot run it.

So, if you want this to last a few years it may not be the best model.

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:22 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi peeps,
>
> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> apple mac.
>
> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
>
> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
>
>
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
>
> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Hi peeps,

I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
apple mac.

I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.

Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?

https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade

I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.

Thanks,

Tom



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Re: iOS simulator not responding

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

can't be typed into, can't be focused. They 
act like
>  >they are invisible.
>  >
>  >Here is what I do to create them. This is a generic handler 
that creates
>  >all input fields throughout the app, and it works fine on 
Android.
>  >Usually I call it like this: createInputFld "email". The other 
params
>  >are used only occasionally.
>  >
>  >command createInputFld pName,pReturnKey,pMultiline -- native 
single-line
>  >input
>  >   -- pName = any valid fld identifier (long name, ID, etc)
>  >   -- pReturnKey = return key type, usually "search"
>  >   -- pMultiline = boolean, whether to create a multi-line input
>  >   put (the rect of control pName) into tRect
>  >   subtract 10 from item 2 of tRect -- adjust for mobile
>  >   add 10 to item 4 of tRect -- may not need for iOS
>  >   if pMultiLine = true then
>  > mobileControlCreate "multiline", pName
>  >   else
>  > mobileControlCreate "input", pName
>  >   end if
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "rect", tRect
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "autoCapitalizationType", "none"
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "autoCorrectionType", "no"
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "enabled", true
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "editable", true -- multiline only 
(?)
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "alpha", 0 -- transparent
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "textalign", the effective textalign 
of
>  >control pName
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "textColor", the effective textcolor 
of
>  >control pName
>  >   if pReturnKey <> "" then mobileControlSet pName, 
"returnKeyType",
>  >pReturnKey -- usually "search"
>  >   mobileControlSet pName, "visible", true
>  >   if the platform contains "iPhone" then
>  > mobileControlSet pName, "borderStyle", "none"
>  > mobileControlSet pName, "clearButtonMode", "always"
>  >   end if
>  >end createInputFld
>  >
>  >The fields on the first card are plain input fields, but I have 
a
>  >question about multiline fields. The docs are a bit confusing. 
I pass
>  >the parameter to Android and it does what I want. But I'm not 
clear
>  >whether that works on iOS. The docs say that multiline fields 
are
>  >applicable to both platforms, but mobileControlCreate info says 
it is
>  >Android only. There is also a separate iOS command to create a 
multiline
>  >field. How does all this work?
>  >
>  >Multiline isn't applicable to the immediate issue, where I 
can't get
>  >past the first two plain input fields.
>  >
>  >On 11/25/19 5:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>  >> Thanks Panos. Resetting didn't work, so now I'm wondering if 
it is
>  >> something about my LC native fields. The first thing the user 
needs to
>  >> do is log in, and I can't test beyond that until I can enter
>  >> credentials. There are two native fields, both are 
transparent. Would
>  >> transparency in iOS matter? They work on Android.
>  >>
>  >> I forgot to mention that the only OS available in XCode 10.1 
is iOS 12.1
>  >> but I assume that's okay.
>  >>
>  >> On 11/25/19 4:11 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
wrote:
>  >>> Hello Jacque,
>  >>>
>  >>> So the iOS standalone is installed to the iOS simulator, but 
the
>  >>> simulator
>  >>> does not respond to clicks / keyboard entry?
>  >>>
>  >>> I am on Mojave as well, but have not seen that happening.
>  >>>
>  >>> Maybe it is worth resetting the simulator state:
>  >>> Quit any instances of Xcode and iOS simulator, and 

Re: iOS simulator not responding

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

pName
 >   else
 > mobileControlCreate "input", pName
 >   end if
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "rect", tRect
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "autoCapitalizationType", "none"
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "autoCorrectionType", "no"
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "enabled", true
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "editable", true -- multiline only (?)
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "alpha", 0 -- transparent
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "textalign", the effective textalign of
 >control pName
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "textColor", the effective textcolor of
 >control pName
 >   if pReturnKey <> "" then mobileControlSet pName, "returnKeyType",
 >pReturnKey -- usually "search"
 >   mobileControlSet pName, "visible", true
 >   if the platform contains "iPhone" then
 > mobileControlSet pName, "borderStyle", "none"
 > mobileControlSet pName, "clearButtonMode", "always"
 >   end if
 >end createInputFld
 >
 >The fields on the first card are plain input fields, but I have a
 >question about multiline fields. The docs are a bit confusing. I pass
 >the parameter to Android and it does what I want. But I'm not clear
 >whether that works on iOS. The docs say that multiline fields are
 >applicable to both platforms, but mobileControlCreate info says it is
 >Android only. There is also a separate iOS command to create a 
multiline
 >field. How does all this work?
 >
     >Multiline isn't applicable to the immediate issue, where I can't get
 >past the first two plain input fields.
 >
 >On 11/25/19 5:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
 >> Thanks Panos. Resetting didn't work, so now I'm wondering if it is
 >    > something about my LC native fields. The first thing the user needs 
to
 >> do is log in, and I can't test beyond that until I can enter
 >> credentials. There are two native fields, both are transparent. 
Would
 >> transparency in iOS matter? They work on Android.
 >>
 >> I forgot to mention that the only OS available in XCode 10.1 is iOS 
12.1
 >> but I assume that's okay.
 >>
 >> On 11/25/19 4:11 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
 >>> Hello Jacque,
 >>>
 >>> So the iOS standalone is installed to the iOS simulator, but the
 >>> simulator
 >>> does not respond to clicks / keyboard entry?
 >>>
 >>> I am on Mojave as well, but have not seen that happening.
 >>>
 >>> Maybe it is worth resetting the simulator state:
 >>> Quit any instances of Xcode and iOS simulator, and execute this in 
the
 >>> terminal:
 >>>
 >>> sudo killall -9 com.apple.CoreSimulator.CoreSimulatorService
 >>>
 >>> Then:
 >>> - Open the Simulator from Xcode (Launch Xcode 10.1, go to Xcode's 
menubar
 >>> and choose
 >>> Xcode -> Open Developer Tool -> Simulator)
 >>> - Wait until the simulator fully loads, until it shows the 
device's Home
 >>> screen
 >>> If you change device by clicking on the Simulator's app menubar
 >>> (Hardware -> Device -> iOS 12.1 ->  ) - again, wait 
until
 >>> the
 >>> new simulator device fully loads, until it shows the device's Home 
screen
 >>> - Now go back to LiveCode and test again
 >>>
 >>> Fingers crossed :)
 >>>
 >>> Panos
 >>> --
 >>>
 >>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 21:43, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
 >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> When I run a test on the iOS simulator, it will not respond to 
either
 >>>> clicks/taps or keyboard entry. Basically, it's inert. I've tried 
several
 >>>> different hardware devices, all with the same results.
 >>>>
 >>>> A Google search seems to show that this is a bug in the simulator 
when
 >>>> running u

Re: iOS simulator not responding

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

CapitalizationType", "none"
>   mobileControlSet pName, "autoCorrectionType", "no"
>   mobileControlSet pName, "enabled", true
>   mobileControlSet pName, "editable", true -- multiline only (?)
>   mobileControlSet pName, "alpha", 0 -- transparent
>   mobileControlSet pName, "textalign", the effective textalign of
>control pName
>   mobileControlSet pName, "textColor", the effective textcolor of
>control pName
>   if pReturnKey <> "" then mobileControlSet pName, "returnKeyType",
>pReturnKey -- usually "search"
>   mobileControlSet pName, "visible", true
>   if the platform contains "iPhone" then
> mobileControlSet pName, "borderStyle", "none"
> mobileControlSet pName, "clearButtonMode", "always"
>   end if
>end createInputFld
>
>The fields on the first card are plain input fields, but I have a
>question about multiline fields. The docs are a bit confusing. I pass
>the parameter to Android and it does what I want. But I'm not clear
>whether that works on iOS. The docs say that multiline fields are
>applicable to both platforms, but mobileControlCreate info says it is
>Android only. There is also a separate iOS command to create a 
multiline
>field. How does all this work?
>
>Multiline isn't applicable to the immediate issue, where I can't get
>past the first two plain input fields.
>
>On 11/25/19 5:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>> Thanks Panos. Resetting didn't work, so now I'm wondering if it is
    >> something about my LC native fields. The first thing the user needs 
to
>> do is log in, and I can't test beyond that until I can enter
>> credentials. There are two native fields, both are transparent. Would
>> transparency in iOS matter? They work on Android.
>>
>> I forgot to mention that the only OS available in XCode 10.1 is iOS 
12.1
>> but I assume that's okay.
>>
>> On 11/25/19 4:11 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Hello Jacque,
>>>
>>> So the iOS standalone is installed to the iOS simulator, but the
>>> simulator
>>> does not respond to clicks / keyboard entry?
>>>
>>> I am on Mojave as well, but have not seen that happening.
>>>
>>> Maybe it is worth resetting the simulator state:
>>> Quit any instances of Xcode and iOS simulator, and execute this in 
the
>>> terminal:
>>>
>>> sudo killall -9 com.apple.CoreSimulator.CoreSimulatorService
>>>
>>> Then:
>>> - Open the Simulator from Xcode (Launch Xcode 10.1, go to Xcode's 
menubar
>>> and choose
>>> Xcode -> Open Developer Tool -> Simulator)
>>> - Wait until the simulator fully loads, until it shows the device's 
Home
>>> screen
>>> If you change device by clicking on the Simulator's app menubar
>>> (Hardware -> Device -> iOS 12.1 ->  ) - again, wait 
until
>>> the
>>> new simulator device fully loads, until it shows the device's Home 
screen
>>> - Now go back to LiveCode and test again
>>>
>>> Fingers crossed :)
>>>
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 21:43, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I run a test on the iOS simulator, it will not respond to 
either
>>>> clicks/taps or keyboard entry. Basically, it's inert. I've tried 
several
>>>> different hardware devices, all with the same results.
>>>>
>>>> A Google search seems to show that this is a bug in the simulator 
when
>>>> running under Mojave, and works again if run in Catalina. I can't 
update
>>>> to Catalina yet because several apps I rely on will not run there.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using LC 9.5.1 (rc1), XCode 10.1, on Mojave. Has anyone seen 
this,
&g

Re: iOS simulator not responding

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

he user needs to
   > do is log in, and I can't test beyond that until I can enter
   > credentials. There are two native fields, both are transparent. Would
   > transparency in iOS matter? They work on Android.
   >
   > I forgot to mention that the only OS available in XCode 10.1 is iOS 12.1
   > but I assume that's okay.
   >
   > On 11/25/19 4:11 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
   >> Hello Jacque,
   >>
   >> So the iOS standalone is installed to the iOS simulator, but the
   >> simulator
   >> does not respond to clicks / keyboard entry?
   >>
   >> I am on Mojave as well, but have not seen that happening.
   >>
   >> Maybe it is worth resetting the simulator state:
   >> Quit any instances of Xcode and iOS simulator, and execute this in the
   >> terminal:
   >>
   >> sudo killall -9 com.apple.CoreSimulator.CoreSimulatorService
   >>
   >> Then:
   >> - Open the Simulator from Xcode (Launch Xcode 10.1, go to Xcode's menubar
   >> and choose
   >> Xcode -> Open Developer Tool -> Simulator)
   >> - Wait until the simulator fully loads, until it shows the device's Home
   >> screen
   >> If you change device by clicking on the Simulator's app menubar
   >> (Hardware -> Device -> iOS 12.1 ->  ) - again, wait until
   >> the
   >> new simulator device fully loads, until it shows the device's Home screen
   >> - Now go back to LiveCode and test again
   >>
   >> Fingers crossed :)
   >>
   >> Panos
   >> --
   >>
   >> On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 21:43, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
   >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
   >>
   >>> When I run a test on the iOS simulator, it will not respond to either
   >>> clicks/taps or keyboard entry. Basically, it's inert. I've tried several
   >>> different hardware devices, all with the same results.
   >>>
   >>> A Google search seems to show that this is a bug in the simulator when
   >>> running under Mojave, and works again if run in Catalina. I can't update
   >>> to Catalina yet because several apps I rely on will not run there.
   >>>
   >>> I'm using LC 9.5.1 (rc1), XCode 10.1, on Mojave. Has anyone seen this,
   >>> and if so, have a workaround?
   >>>
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Re: iOS simulator not responding

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Not sure if it will help, but here's the code I use to create a multiline text 
control (pControlName) on iOS that 'overlays' an existing LC field (pObj)

# create a native multiline text control
put the rect of pObj into tRect
# shrink the rect by 1 pixel all around to reveal the object's border
add 1 to item 1 of tRect
add 1 to item 2 of tRect
add -1 to item 3 of tRect
add -1 to item 4 of tRect
mobileControlCreate "multiline", pControlName
mobileControlSet pControlName, "rect", tRect
mobileControlSet pControlName, "opaque", true
mobileControlSet pControlName, "visible", true
mobileControlSet pControlName, "contentType", "plain"
mobileControlSet pControlName, "fontSize", "18"
mobileControlSet pControlName, "textAlign", "left"
mobileControlSet pControlName, "returnKeyType", "default"
mobileControlSet pControlName, "autoCorrectionType", "default"
mobileControlSet pControlName, "autoCapitalizationType", "sentences"
mobileControlSet pControlName, "keyboardStyle", "default"

You use 'editable' and 'enabled' as parameters for mobileControlSet but I don't 
use either of those. I use 'opaque' but you don't because you are after a 
transparent effect - I wonder whether 'opaque' can be used in conjunction with 
'alpha' though?

Terry...


On 27/11/19, 6:46 am, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

I have reduced the problem to iOS input fields. Some testing shows that:

* The native fields exist
* Their rect is correct
* If I script their text data, it is there and can be retrieved

But they are inactive, can't be tapped, don't show any text even if its 
entry is scripted, can't be typed into, can't be focused. They act like 
they are invisible.

Here is what I do to create them. This is a generic handler that creates 
all input fields throughout the app, and it works fine on Android. 
Usually I call it like this: createInputFld "email". The other params 
are used only occasionally.

command createInputFld pName,pReturnKey,pMultiline -- native single-line 
input
   -- pName = any valid fld identifier (long name, ID, etc)
   -- pReturnKey = return key type, usually "search"
   -- pMultiline = boolean, whether to create a multi-line input
   put (the rect of control pName) into tRect
   subtract 10 from item 2 of tRect -- adjust for mobile
   add 10 to item 4 of tRect -- may not need for iOS
   if pMultiLine = true then
 mobileControlCreate "multiline", pName
   else
 mobileControlCreate "input", pName
   end if
   mobileControlSet pName, "rect", tRect
   mobileControlSet pName, "autoCapitalizationType", "none"
   mobileControlSet pName, "autoCorrectionType", "no"
   mobileControlSet pName, "enabled", true
   mobileControlSet pName, "editable", true -- multiline only (?)
   mobileControlSet pName, "alpha", 0 -- transparent
   mobileControlSet pName, "textalign", the effective textalign of 
control pName
   mobileControlSet pName, "textColor", the effective textcolor of 
control pName
   if pReturnKey <> "" then mobileControlSet pName, "returnKeyType", 
pReturnKey -- usually "search"
   mobileControlSet pName, "visible", true
   if the platform contains "iPhone" then
 mobileControlSet pName, "borderStyle", "none"
 mobileControlSet pName, "clearButtonMode", "always"
   end if
end createInputFld

The fields on the first card are plain input fields, but I have a 
question about multiline fields. The docs are a bit confusing. I pass 
the parameter to Android and it does what I want. But I'm not clear 
whether that works on iOS. The docs say that multiline fields are 
applicable to both platforms, but mobileControlCreate info says it is 
Android only. There is also a separate iOS command to create a multiline 
field. How does all this work?

Multiline isn't applicable to the immediate issue, where I can't get 
past the first two plain input fields.

On 11/25/19 5:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
> Thanks Panos. Resetting didn't work, so now I'm wondering if it is 
> something about my LC native fields. The first thing the user needs to 
> do is log in, and I can't test beyond that until I can enter 
> credentials. There are two native fields, both are transparent. Would 
> transparency in iOS matter? They work on Android.
> 
> I forgot to mention that the only

Re: iOS simulator not responding

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I have reduced the problem to iOS input fields. Some testing shows that:

* The native fields exist
* Their rect is correct
* If I script their text data, it is there and can be retrieved

But they are inactive, can't be tapped, don't show any text even if its 
entry is scripted, can't be typed into, can't be focused. They act like 
they are invisible.


Here is what I do to create them. This is a generic handler that creates 
all input fields throughout the app, and it works fine on Android. 
Usually I call it like this: createInputFld "email". The other params 
are used only occasionally.


command createInputFld pName,pReturnKey,pMultiline -- native single-line 
input

  -- pName = any valid fld identifier (long name, ID, etc)
  -- pReturnKey = return key type, usually "search"
  -- pMultiline = boolean, whether to create a multi-line input
  put (the rect of control pName) into tRect
  subtract 10 from item 2 of tRect -- adjust for mobile
  add 10 to item 4 of tRect -- may not need for iOS
  if pMultiLine = true then
mobileControlCreate "multiline", pName
  else
mobileControlCreate "input", pName
  end if
  mobileControlSet pName, "rect", tRect
  mobileControlSet pName, "autoCapitalizationType", "none"
  mobileControlSet pName, "autoCorrectionType", "no"
  mobileControlSet pName, "enabled", true
  mobileControlSet pName, "editable", true -- multiline only (?)
  mobileControlSet pName, "alpha", 0 -- transparent
  mobileControlSet pName, "textalign", the effective textalign of 
control pName
  mobileControlSet pName, "textColor", the effective textcolor of 
control pName
  if pReturnKey <> "" then mobileControlSet pName, "returnKeyType", 
pReturnKey -- usually "search"

  mobileControlSet pName, "visible", true
  if the platform contains "iPhone" then
mobileControlSet pName, "borderStyle", "none"
mobileControlSet pName, "clearButtonMode", "always"
  end if
end createInputFld

The fields on the first card are plain input fields, but I have a 
question about multiline fields. The docs are a bit confusing. I pass 
the parameter to Android and it does what I want. But I'm not clear 
whether that works on iOS. The docs say that multiline fields are 
applicable to both platforms, but mobileControlCreate info says it is 
Android only. There is also a separate iOS command to create a multiline 
field. How does all this work?


Multiline isn't applicable to the immediate issue, where I can't get 
past the first two plain input fields.


On 11/25/19 5:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
Thanks Panos. Resetting didn't work, so now I'm wondering if it is 
something about my LC native fields. The first thing the user needs to 
do is log in, and I can't test beyond that until I can enter 
credentials. There are two native fields, both are transparent. Would 
transparency in iOS matter? They work on Android.


I forgot to mention that the only OS available in XCode 10.1 is iOS 12.1 
but I assume that's okay.


On 11/25/19 4:11 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Hello Jacque,

So the iOS standalone is installed to the iOS simulator, but the 
simulator

does not respond to clicks / keyboard entry?

I am on Mojave as well, but have not seen that happening.

Maybe it is worth resetting the simulator state:
Quit any instances of Xcode and iOS simulator, and execute this in the
terminal:

sudo killall -9 com.apple.CoreSimulator.CoreSimulatorService

Then:
- Open the Simulator from Xcode (Launch Xcode 10.1, go to Xcode's menubar
and choose
Xcode -> Open Developer Tool -> Simulator)
- Wait until the simulator fully loads, until it shows the device's Home
screen
If you change device by clicking on the Simulator's app menubar
(Hardware -> Device -> iOS 12.1 ->  ) - again, wait until 
the

new simulator device fully loads, until it shows the device's Home screen
- Now go back to LiveCode and test again

Fingers crossed :)

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When I run a test on the iOS simulator, it will not respond to either
clicks/taps or keyboard entry. Basically, it's inert. I've tried several
different hardware devices, all with the same results.

A Google search seems to show that this is a bug in the simulator when
running under Mojave, and works again if run in Catalina. I can't update
to Catalina yet because several apps I rely on will not run there.

I'm using LC 9.5.1 (rc1), XCode 10.1, on Mojave. Has anyone seen this,
and if so, have a workaround?

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Re: iOS simulator not responding

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Thanks Panos. Resetting didn't work, so now I'm wondering if it is 
something about my LC native fields. The first thing the user needs to 
do is log in, and I can't test beyond that until I can enter 
credentials. There are two native fields, both are transparent. Would 
transparency in iOS matter? They work on Android.


I forgot to mention that the only OS available in XCode 10.1 is iOS 12.1 
but I assume that's okay.


On 11/25/19 4:11 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Hello Jacque,

So the iOS standalone is installed to the iOS simulator, but the simulator
does not respond to clicks / keyboard entry?

I am on Mojave as well, but have not seen that happening.

Maybe it is worth resetting the simulator state:
Quit any instances of Xcode and iOS simulator, and execute this in the
terminal:

sudo killall -9 com.apple.CoreSimulator.CoreSimulatorService

Then:
- Open the Simulator from Xcode (Launch Xcode 10.1, go to Xcode's menubar
and choose
Xcode -> Open Developer Tool -> Simulator)
- Wait until the simulator fully loads, until it shows the device's Home
screen
If you change device by clicking on the Simulator's app menubar
(Hardware -> Device -> iOS 12.1 ->  ) - again, wait until the
new simulator device fully loads, until it shows the device's Home screen
- Now go back to LiveCode and test again

Fingers crossed :)

Panos
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When I run a test on the iOS simulator, it will not respond to either
clicks/taps or keyboard entry. Basically, it's inert. I've tried several
different hardware devices, all with the same results.

A Google search seems to show that this is a bug in the simulator when
running under Mojave, and works again if run in Catalina. I can't update
to Catalina yet because several apps I rely on will not run there.

I'm using LC 9.5.1 (rc1), XCode 10.1, on Mojave. Has anyone seen this,
and if so, have a workaround?

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Re: iOS simulator not responding

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hello Jacque,

So the iOS standalone is installed to the iOS simulator, but the simulator
does not respond to clicks / keyboard entry?

I am on Mojave as well, but have not seen that happening.

Maybe it is worth resetting the simulator state:
Quit any instances of Xcode and iOS simulator, and execute this in the
terminal:

sudo killall -9 com.apple.CoreSimulator.CoreSimulatorService

Then:
- Open the Simulator from Xcode (Launch Xcode 10.1, go to Xcode's menubar
and choose
Xcode -> Open Developer Tool -> Simulator)
- Wait until the simulator fully loads, until it shows the device's Home
screen
If you change device by clicking on the Simulator's app menubar
(Hardware -> Device -> iOS 12.1 ->  ) - again, wait until the
new simulator device fully loads, until it shows the device's Home screen
- Now go back to LiveCode and test again

Fingers crossed :)

Panos
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use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> When I run a test on the iOS simulator, it will not respond to either
> clicks/taps or keyboard entry. Basically, it's inert. I've tried several
> different hardware devices, all with the same results.
>
> A Google search seems to show that this is a bug in the simulator when
> running under Mojave, and works again if run in Catalina. I can't update
> to Catalina yet because several apps I rely on will not run there.
>
> I'm using LC 9.5.1 (rc1), XCode 10.1, on Mojave. Has anyone seen this,
> and if so, have a workaround?
>
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iOS simulator not responding

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

When I run a test on the iOS simulator, it will not respond to either 
clicks/taps or keyboard entry. Basically, it's inert. I've tried several 
different hardware devices, all with the same results.


A Google search seems to show that this is a bug in the simulator when 
running under Mojave, and works again if run in Catalina. I can't update 
to Catalina yet because several apps I rely on will not run there.


I'm using LC 9.5.1 (rc1), XCode 10.1, on Mojave. Has anyone seen this, 
and if so, have a workaround?


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Re: iOS simulator issue - LC 9.0.2, Xcode 10.0

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Thanks Curry - seems to be working for now at least after a full restart.  
Command line tools were set to the right version but interestingly although the 
iOS12 simulator runs, it doesn't show up in the list of installed simulators in 
the components pane of the Xcode prefs window.

Terry...


On 30/1/19, 12:05 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Curry Kenworthy via 
use-livecode"  wrote:


Terry:

 > can’t get the simulator to run - it launches OK but LC throws an
 > error part way through the test/build process.
 > Unable to start simulator

I've seen that! Can't remember which fix is for which error, but the 
handiest fix that I use most for Simulator is xCode's prefs: Command 
Line Tools version. Never leave home (or stay home and use Sim) without 
it. :)

Best wishes,

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Re: iOS simulator issue - LC 9.0.2, Xcode 10.0

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Terry:

> can’t get the simulator to run - it launches OK but LC throws an
> error part way through the test/build process.
> Unable to start simulator

I've seen that! Can't remember which fix is for which error, but the 
handiest fix that I use most for Simulator is xCode's prefs: Command 
Line Tools version. Never leave home (or stay home and use Sim) without 
it. :)


Best wishes,

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iOS simulator issue - LC 9.0.2, Xcode 10.0

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

I’m running LC 9.0.2 on OSX Mojave and can’t get the simulator to run - it 
launches OK but LC throws an error part way through the test/build process.

Unable to start simulator: 634,0,0,unknown
C++ exception
573,228,1,revIPhoneSetSimulatorSDK

Any ideas?
Building direct to a phone works fine BTW.

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Re: Continual iOS Simulator Problems

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

I’m sorry for not replying sooner, but yes, it was the simulator that was not 
working. I did as others suggested, open the simulator in Xcode and run from 
there with no problem. 

Thanks for your help!

Roger

> On Oct 31, 2018, at 10:46 AM, JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does the emulator itself not work?
> 
> Or does your app not run on the emulator?
> 
> You can either hit the test button to run it on an open emulator.
> 
> But you can also create a standalone on mac and drag the the standalone file 
> to the emulator (or was a real device) anyway can't remember but i did drag 
> it towards devices in Xcode
> 
> But your Provisioning Profile is OK?
> 
> 
> Op 30-10-2018 om 03:47 schreef Roger Guay via use-livecode:
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I’m on a Mac with OS 10.14 and using LC 9.0.0 Indy, and I have the green 
>> square indication in LC prefs with SDK 11.2.
>> 
>> I can’t get the simulator to work with test target set to simulator 11.2. It 
>> simply takes too long to open and then crashes if I persist.
>> 
>> In fact, it seems to me that I’ve had this problem with the simulator not 
>> working in previous versions as well.
>> 
>> Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Roger
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Re: Continual iOS Simulator Problems

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> 
> Am 30.10.2018 um 04:13 schrieb Brian Milby via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Have you tried launching the simulator from Xcode first and after it is fully 
> loaded then trying to test from LC?

That´s how i am doing it, because pressing the test button in LC with the 
simulator not running produces here exact the same problems. First there are 
these notification messages that the simulator does not respond  or takes to 
long to start(or something like that - you all know that message) and i have to 
choose if want to continue. If i acknowledge to continue, then  the message 
appears after some time again and so on.

When i press the button to not continue, the simulator hangs. At least it does 
not respond for a very long time. I have to use the activity monitor to quit  
the simulator.

If i open the simulator first and wait until the iOS device is started 
completely, then i can test the LC app without a problem.

Unfortunately i very often forget to start the simulator first and and that 
then takes time i could use more useful.


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Re: Continual iOS Simulator Problems

[JJS via use-livecode]

Does the emulator itself not work?

Or does your app not run on the emulator?

You can either hit the test button to run it on an open emulator.

But you can also create a standalone on mac and drag the the standalone 
file to the emulator (or was a real device) anyway can't remember but i 
did drag it towards devices in Xcode


But your Provisioning Profile is OK?


Op 30-10-2018 om 03:47 schreef Roger Guay via use-livecode:

Hi Folks,

I’m on a Mac with OS 10.14 and using LC 9.0.0 Indy, and I have the green square 
indication in LC prefs with SDK 11.2.

I can’t get the simulator to work with test target set to simulator 11.2. It 
simply takes too long to open and then crashes if I persist.

In fact, it seems to me that I’ve had this problem with the simulator not 
working in previous versions as well.

Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Roger
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Re: Continual iOS Simulator Problems

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hello all,

I recently had this problem. The simulator was crashing on startup, opened
either from Xcode or from LC. This terminal command fixed the problem for
me:

sudo killall -9 com.apple.CoreSimulator.CoreSimulatorService

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> Thanks, Brian. I didn’t think of that previously, but I now find that it
> crashes in Xcode. So I guess the problem is there in Xcode, not in LC. Ratz!
>
> Roger
>
> > On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:13 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Have you tried launching the simulator from Xcode first and after it is
> fully loaded then trying to test from LC?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> > On Oct 29, 2018, 9:48 PM -0500, Roger Guay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>, wrote:
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> I’m on a Mac with OS 10.14 and using LC 9.0.0 Indy, and I have the
> green square indication in LC prefs with SDK 11.2.
> >>
> >> I can’t get the simulator to work with test target set to simulator
> 11.2. It simply takes too long to open and then crashes if I persist.
> >>
> >> In fact, it seems to me that I’ve had this problem with the simulator
> not working in previous versions as well.
> >>
> >> Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Roger
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[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Thanks, Brian. I didn’t think of that previously, but I now find that it 
crashes in Xcode. So I guess the problem is there in Xcode, not in LC. Ratz!

Roger

> On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:13 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried launching the simulator from Xcode first and after it is fully 
> loaded then trying to test from LC?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Oct 29, 2018, 9:48 PM -0500, Roger Guay via use-livecode 
> , wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I’m on a Mac with OS 10.14 and using LC 9.0.0 Indy, and I have the green 
>> square indication in LC prefs with SDK 11.2.
>> 
>> I can’t get the simulator to work with test target set to simulator 11.2. It 
>> simply takes too long to open and then crashes if I persist.
>> 
>> In fact, it seems to me that I’ve had this problem with the simulator not 
>> working in previous versions as well.
>> 
>> Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Roger
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Re: Continual iOS Simulator Problems

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Have you tried launching the simulator from Xcode first and after it is fully 
loaded then trying to test from LC?

Thanks,
Brian
On Oct 29, 2018, 9:48 PM -0500, Roger Guay via use-livecode 
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> Hi Folks,
>
> I’m on a Mac with OS 10.14 and using LC 9.0.0 Indy, and I have the green 
> square indication in LC prefs with SDK 11.2.
>
> I can’t get the simulator to work with test target set to simulator 11.2. It 
> simply takes too long to open and then crashes if I persist.
>
> In fact, it seems to me that I’ve had this problem with the simulator not 
> working in previous versions as well.
>
> Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roger
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Continual iOS Simulator Problems

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Hi Folks,

I’m on a Mac with OS 10.14 and using LC 9.0.0 Indy, and I have the green square 
indication in LC prefs with SDK 11.2. 

I can’t get the simulator to work with test target set to simulator 11.2. It 
simply takes too long to open and then crashes if I persist.

In fact, it seems to me that I’ve had this problem with the simulator not 
working in previous versions as well.

Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: LiveCode and iOS Simulator Set Up

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

I’m having the same problem, John. Here’s is what I wrote to Dan just a few 
days ago:

First off, I’m in Mac OS 10.13.3 so I’m not sure this will help. 

The simulator has been consistently giving me the message “The simulator seems 
to be taking a long time to launch….” I respond to this message with No, the 
simulator stays open but unloaaded. I then find I can go to the Simulator menu 
and select my device under Hardware and everything works.

HTH,

Roger


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> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am trying to set up a new school Mac laptop with Xcode so that I can run 
> the iOS simulator on it with Livecode.
> 
> I have tried LiveCode 8.1.7 and 8.1.9 with Xcode most recent version of 
> Xcode, 9.0, and 9.1.  Each time I attempt to launch the simulator in LiveCode 
> I get the message, “The simulator seems to be taking a long time to launch…”. 
> Eventually, it times out and the app never launches in the simulator.  
> 
> I’m guessing I am not using the correct versions of LiveCode or, possibly, 
> Xcode?  Is there a link to documentation on how to get the simulator to work?
> 
> Thank you!
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Re: LiveCode and iOS Simulator Set Up

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi John,

For LC 8.1.9 you have to use Xcode 9.2 if you are on MacOS 10.12.6+.

Moreover, you have to open the simulator first *from Xcode*. See this
thread fro more details:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=49=30592

Best,
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>
> I am trying to set up a new school Mac laptop with Xcode so that I can run
> the iOS simulator on it with Livecode.
>
> I have tried LiveCode 8.1.7 and 8.1.9 with Xcode most recent version of
> Xcode, 9.0, and 9.1.  Each time I attempt to launch the simulator in
> LiveCode I get the message, “The simulator seems to be taking a long time
> to launch…”. Eventually, it times out and the app never launches in the
> simulator.
>
> I’m guessing I am not using the correct versions of LiveCode or, possibly,
> Xcode?  Is there a link to documentation on how to get the simulator to
> work?
>
> Thank you!
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LiveCode and iOS Simulator Set Up

[JOHN PATTEN via use-livecode]

Hi All,

I am trying to set up a new school Mac laptop with Xcode so that I can run the 
iOS simulator on it with Livecode.

I have tried LiveCode 8.1.7 and 8.1.9 with Xcode most recent version of Xcode, 
9.0, and 9.1.  Each time I attempt to launch the simulator in LiveCode I get 
the message, “The simulator seems to be taking a long time to launch…”. 
Eventually, it times out and the app never launches in the simulator.  

I’m guessing I am not using the correct versions of LiveCode or, possibly, 
Xcode?  Is there a link to documentation on how to get the simulator to work?

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closestackrequest in iOS Simulator

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

Xcode 9.2, LC 9 dp11 and LC 8.1.9 RC2

Out of a sudden, "closestackrequest" and "closestack" 
do not seem to get sent to the stack in the simulator anymore?

I created a new empty stack with only this stackscript:
---
on closestackrequest
answer "closestack REQUEST!"
pass closestackrequest
end closestackrequest

on closestack
answer "closestack"
end closestack
-
I see both dialogs when I close the stack in the IDE, but in the simulator
(iPhone 5s - 11.2) I do not see any dialog when pressing the "Home" button?

What gives? Thanks for any hint.


Best

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IOS simulator/ iPhone X and Xcode Mobile Pref Order

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

iOS developers FYI:

 

If you have more than one Xcode on the Mobile Prefs make sure that the last
one in the most recent. I had Xcode 9 as the first and then added the older
ones. When the simulator fired up from LC there was no option for iPhone X.
I then closed down everything and started the simulator from Xcode 9 and the
iPhone X was there. I then started up LC and it froze when "Configuring
Simulator". This required a force quit to get out of. After I re-arranged
the Prefs so that Xcode 9 was last on the list I restarted LC, Clicked the
test button, iPhone iOS 11 started up with an older phone model. I selected
the iPhone X(now an option), shutdown the older simulator device, clicked
the test button again and the iPhone X was up and running my app.

 

Ralph DiMola

IT Director

Evergreen Information Services

rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

 

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RE: LC 9.0.0 dp8 won't launch iOS simulator

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Bill,

Great!. I just noticed that the original did not hit the use list. I composed 
that on my phone and it seems that email account will not post to the lists 
anymore. I'll get Heather to fix that. One addition... The alligator 
(OldXcodeVersions folder) should be nowhere near the applications folder. 
Preferably "in a galaxy far far away". My First stab was as a sub-folder in 
applications. I had a problem (could/could not have been related). I moved 
OldXcodeVersions folder to the desktop and there it stays.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
William Prothero via use-livecode
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:00 AM
To: Use-livecode Use-livecode
Cc: William Prothero
Subject: Re: LC 9.0.0 dp8 won't launch iOS simulator

This works! Very easy once you know the location of the alligators in the swamp.
Best,
Bill P

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Evergreen Info <rdimo...@evergreeninfo.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I kept getting all sorts of weird Xcode related problems in until I started 
> doing this.
> 
> 1] Keep only one version of Xcode in the applications folder named Xcode.app.
> 2]  Create an OldXcodeVersions folder. 
> 3] When upgrading:
>   A] Move Xcode.app from applications folder to the OldXcodeVersions folder 
> and rename it to Xcode.x.y.app.
>   B] Download the new Xcode from the developer portal. 
>   C] Open up downloads and install Xcode into the applications folder..
>   D] Open up the new Xcode.app
>   E] In the LC prefs select...add a new Xcode.
>   F] Add the Xcode that you just moved and renamed in A and B. This give you 
> access to older SDKs and simulators.
> 4] Never upgrade Xcode.
> 5] Never install from App Store .
> 6] Trash any versions of Xcode that were upgrades and redownload them fresh 
> from developers portal. 
> 7] Open the Xcode versions one at a time named Xcode.app in the applications 
> folder and then move to the OldXcodeVersions folder and rename.
> 
> 
> 6 and 7 is pain but was worth it.
> 
> The App store honks at you for a few days until it figures out you have the 
> most recent version of Xcode installed.
> 
> Your mileage may vary.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2017 12:20 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Folks:
> I’m trying to work on a new app that will send an sms message in iOS. But, as 
> it usually happens when I don’t use the simulator and XCode for a month or 
> so, new version come along and chaos seems to ensue. I had all of this 
> working in LC 8.1.4.
> 
> I’ve been working with LC 8.2.6 and LC9.0.0 (dp8) I downloaded XCode 8.3.3, 
> but have XCode 8.3 and 8.2 installed. When I started, LC 8.2.6 would launch 
> the simulator ok. But 9.0.0 wouldn’t. After fiddling around a bit, LC 8.2.6 
> would no longer launch the simulator. I get the following error message on 
> all versions, no matter what I put into the LiveCode preferences for XCode:
> 
> “Unable to start simulator 634,0,0,notoolset 573,220,1,revPhoneSetSimulatorSDK
> 
> I deleted the LC Preferences files and it didn’t fix anything.
> 
> So…. I have 3 versions of XCode (8.2, 8.3, 8.3.3)  in my application folder. 
> These have been downloaded from the developer portal. Is it ok to have all of 
> them in my applications folder, then enter them into the LC 
> Preferences->mobile Support pane? Or will it mix up software from different 
> versions of XCode in my app folder?
> 
> Do I need to download additional tools for XCode?
> 
> This is extremely frustrating. I did note that there was a red/green box in 
> the LC mobile support pane in preferences, which should indicate the all the 
> XCode support files are correct for the running version of LC. This doesn’t 
> seem to be the case, though. It does respond to the version loaded, though, 
> which is something.
> 
> For me, this is the most frustrating part of livecode. Can’t more be done to 
> check configurations and provide clear and complete error messages when 
> things aren’t right?
> 
> Best,
> Bill P
> 
> William A. Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolution.org/
> 
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Re: LC 9.0.0 dp8 won't launch iOS simulator

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

This works! Very easy once you know the location of the alligators in the swamp.
Best,
Bill P

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Evergreen Info  
> wrote:
> 
> I kept getting all sorts of weird Xcode related problems in until I started 
> doing this.
> 
> 1] Keep only one version of Xcode in the applications folder named Xcode.app.
> 2]  Create an OldXcodeVersions folder. 
> 3] When upgrading:
>   A] Move Xcode.app from applications folder to the OldXcodeVersions folder 
> and rename it to Xcode.x.y.app.
>   B] Download the new Xcode from the developer portal. 
>   C] Open up downloads and install Xcode into the applications folder..
>   D] Open up the new Xcode.app
>   E] In the LC prefs select...add a new Xcode.
>   F] Add the Xcode that you just moved and renamed in A and B. This give you 
> access to older SDKs and simulators.
> 4] Never upgrade Xcode.
> 5] Never install from App Store .
> 6] Trash any versions of Xcode that were upgrades and redownload them fresh 
> from developers portal. 
> 7] Open the Xcode versions one at a time named Xcode.app in the applications 
> folder and then move to the OldXcodeVersions folder and rename.
> 
> 
> 6 and 7 is pain but was worth it.
> 
> The App store honks at you for a few days until it figures out you have the 
> most recent version of Xcode installed.
> 
> Your mileage may vary.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2017 12:20 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> Folks:
> I’m trying to work on a new app that will send an sms message in iOS. But, as 
> it usually happens when I don’t use the simulator and XCode for a month or 
> so, new version come along and chaos seems to ensue. I had all of this 
> working in LC 8.1.4.
> 
> I’ve been working with LC 8.2.6 and LC9.0.0 (dp8) I downloaded XCode 8.3.3, 
> but have XCode 8.3 and 8.2 installed. When I started, LC 8.2.6 would launch 
> the simulator ok. But 9.0.0 wouldn’t. After fiddling around a bit, LC 8.2.6 
> would no longer launch the simulator. I get the following error message on 
> all versions, no matter what I put into the LiveCode preferences for XCode:
> 
> “Unable to start simulator 634,0,0,notoolset 573,220,1,revPhoneSetSimulatorSDK
> 
> I deleted the LC Preferences files and it didn’t fix anything.
> 
> So…. I have 3 versions of XCode (8.2, 8.3, 8.3.3)  in my application folder. 
> These have been downloaded from the developer portal. Is it ok to have all of 
> them in my applications folder, then enter them into the LC 
> Preferences->mobile Support pane? Or will it mix up software from different 
> versions of XCode in my app folder?
> 
> Do I need to download additional tools for XCode?
> 
> This is extremely frustrating. I did note that there was a red/green box in 
> the LC mobile support pane in preferences, which should indicate the all the 
> XCode support files are correct for the running version of LC. This doesn’t 
> seem to be the case, though. It does respond to the version loaded, though, 
> which is something.
> 
> For me, this is the most frustrating part of livecode. Can’t more be done to 
> check configurations and provide clear and complete error messages when 
> things aren’t right?
> 
> Best,
> Bill P
> 
> William A. Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolution.org/
> 
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Re: LC 9.0.0 dp8 won't launch iOS simulator

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Thanks for the ideas. I’ll do those things, Evergreen. I have been using iPhone 
6 and above, but tomorrow, after a night’s sleep, I’ll follow the suggestions.

Thanks!
Bill P


> On Aug 11, 2017, at 10:43 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> In LC 9dp7 (or dp8, not 100% sure), we removed support for 32bit
> simulators. This means that if your simulator is set to iPhone SE or
> iPhone5, the standalone will not launch. So you have to choose a 64bit
> simulator (iphone6 and above).
> 
> Best regards,
> Panos
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2017 05:20, "William Prothero via use-livecode" <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Folks:
>> I’m trying to work on a new app that will send an sms message in iOS. But,
>> as it usually happens when I don’t use the simulator and XCode for a month
>> or so, new version come along and chaos seems to ensue. I had all of this
>> working in LC 8.1.4.
>> 
>> I’ve been working with LC 8.2.6 and LC9.0.0 (dp8) I downloaded XCode
>> 8.3.3, but have XCode 8.3 and 8.2 installed. When I started, LC 8.2.6 would
>> launch the simulator ok. But 9.0.0 wouldn’t. After fiddling around a bit,
>> LC 8.2.6 would no longer launch the simulator. I get the following error
>> message on all versions, no matter what I put into the LiveCode preferences
>> for XCode:
>> 
>> “Unable to start simulator 634,0,0,notoolset 573,220,1,
>> revPhoneSetSimulatorSDK
>> 
>> I deleted the LC Preferences files and it didn’t fix anything.
>> 
>> So…. I have 3 versions of XCode (8.2, 8.3, 8.3.3)  in my application
>> folder. These have been downloaded from the developer portal. Is it ok to
>> have all of them in my applications folder, then enter them into the LC
>> Preferences->mobile Support pane? Or will it mix up software from different
>> versions of XCode in my app folder?
>> 
>> Do I need to download additional tools for XCode?
>> 
>> This is extremely frustrating. I did note that there was a red/green box
>> in the LC mobile support pane in preferences, which should indicate the all
>> the XCode support files are correct for the running version of LC. This
>> doesn’t seem to be the case, though. It does respond to the version loaded,
>> though, which is something.
>> 
>> For me, this is the most frustrating part of livecode. Can’t more be done
>> to check configurations and provide clear and complete error messages when
>> things aren’t right?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill P
>> 
>> William A. Prothero
>> http://earthlearningsolution.org/
>> 
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Re: LC 9.0.0 dp8 won't launch iOS simulator

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

In LC 9dp7 (or dp8, not 100% sure), we removed support for 32bit
simulators. This means that if your simulator is set to iPhone SE or
iPhone5, the standalone will not launch. So you have to choose a 64bit
simulator (iphone6 and above).

Best regards,
Panos



On Aug 12, 2017 05:20, "William Prothero via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Folks:
> I’m trying to work on a new app that will send an sms message in iOS. But,
> as it usually happens when I don’t use the simulator and XCode for a month
> or so, new version come along and chaos seems to ensue. I had all of this
> working in LC 8.1.4.
>
> I’ve been working with LC 8.2.6 and LC9.0.0 (dp8) I downloaded XCode
> 8.3.3, but have XCode 8.3 and 8.2 installed. When I started, LC 8.2.6 would
> launch the simulator ok. But 9.0.0 wouldn’t. After fiddling around a bit,
> LC 8.2.6 would no longer launch the simulator. I get the following error
> message on all versions, no matter what I put into the LiveCode preferences
> for XCode:
>
> “Unable to start simulator 634,0,0,notoolset 573,220,1,
> revPhoneSetSimulatorSDK
>
> I deleted the LC Preferences files and it didn’t fix anything.
>
> So…. I have 3 versions of XCode (8.2, 8.3, 8.3.3)  in my application
> folder. These have been downloaded from the developer portal. Is it ok to
> have all of them in my applications folder, then enter them into the LC
> Preferences->mobile Support pane? Or will it mix up software from different
> versions of XCode in my app folder?
>
> Do I need to download additional tools for XCode?
>
> This is extremely frustrating. I did note that there was a red/green box
> in the LC mobile support pane in preferences, which should indicate the all
> the XCode support files are correct for the running version of LC. This
> doesn’t seem to be the case, though. It does respond to the version loaded,
> though, which is something.
>
> For me, this is the most frustrating part of livecode. Can’t more be done
> to check configurations and provide clear and complete error messages when
> things aren’t right?
>
> Best,
> Bill P
>
> William A. Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolution.org/
>
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LC 9.0.0 dp8 won't launch iOS simulator

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Folks:
I’m trying to work on a new app that will send an sms message in iOS. But, as 
it usually happens when I don’t use the simulator and XCode for a month or so, 
new version come along and chaos seems to ensue. I had all of this working in 
LC 8.1.4. 

I’ve been working with LC 8.2.6 and LC9.0.0 (dp8) I downloaded XCode 8.3.3, but 
have XCode 8.3 and 8.2 installed. When I started, LC 8.2.6 would launch the 
simulator ok. But 9.0.0 wouldn’t. After fiddling around a bit, LC 8.2.6 would 
no longer launch the simulator. I get the following error message on all 
versions, no matter what I put into the LiveCode preferences for XCode: 

“Unable to start simulator 634,0,0,notoolset 573,220,1,revPhoneSetSimulatorSDK

I deleted the LC Preferences files and it didn’t fix anything. 

So…. I have 3 versions of XCode (8.2, 8.3, 8.3.3)  in my application folder. 
These have been downloaded from the developer portal. Is it ok to have all of 
them in my applications folder, then enter them into the LC Preferences->mobile 
Support pane? Or will it mix up software from different versions of XCode in my 
app folder?

Do I need to download additional tools for XCode?

This is extremely frustrating. I did note that there was a red/green box in the 
LC mobile support pane in preferences, which should indicate the all the XCode 
support files are correct for the running version of LC. This doesn’t seem to 
be the case, though. It does respond to the version loaded, though, which is 
something.

For me, this is the most frustrating part of livecode. Can’t more be done to 
check configurations and provide clear and complete error messages when things 
aren’t right?

Best,
Bill P

William A. Prothero
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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[John Allijn]

Thanks for the info. 
Xcode was upgraded, so the old version was gone. I’m now downloading the 4,5GB 
8.0 version from developer.apple.com . hope that 
works!
thanks again!


> On 03 Nov 2016, at 15:45, Thierry Douez  wrote:
> 
> 2016-11-03 15:37 GMT+01:00 Bob Sneidar :
> 
>> Which version works with which should probably be published in a document,
>> and maybe already has been.
>> 
> 
> ​Hi Bob,
> 
> There is one place:​
> 
> https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/
> 
> ​but it needs to be updated too :)
> ​
> ​Thierry
> ​
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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[Bob Sneidar]

There ya go! :-)

Bob S


On Nov 3, 2016, at 07:44 , Peter TB Brett 
> wrote:

Which
version works with which should probably be published in a document,
and maybe already has been.


This information is always included in the release notes for LiveCode.

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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[Peter TB Brett]

On 03/11/2016 14:37, Bob Sneidar wrote:

When it comes to Xcode, this is almost never the case. What I have
gotten from all the iOS posts in this forum, keeping LC and Xcode in
sync is far more important than having either/both up to date. Which
version works with which should probably be published in a document,
and maybe already has been.



This information is always included in the release notes for LiveCode.

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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[Thierry Douez]

2016-11-03 15:37 GMT+01:00 Bob Sneidar :

> Which version works with which should probably be published in a document,
> and maybe already has been.
>

​Hi Bob,

There is one place:​

https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/

​but it needs to be updated too :)
​
​Thierry
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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[Bob Sneidar]

When it comes to Xcode, this is almost never the case. What I have gotten from 
all the iOS posts in this forum, keeping LC and Xcode in sync is far more 
important than having either/both up to date. Which version works with which 
should probably be published in a document, and maybe already has been. 

Bob S


> On Nov 3, 2016, at 02:19 , John Allijn  wrote:
> 
> Yes, 8.0 used to work just fine but I thought it would be a good idea to 
> bring everything up to date...
> 
>> Op 3 nov. 2016 om 10:07 heeft Thierry Douez  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer,
>> but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1.
>> 
>> Hope someone else could confirm...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Thierry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2016-11-03 9:57 GMT+01:00 John Allijn :
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now
>>> LiveCode can’t find any simulators for iOS.
>>> In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I
>>> click Add Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error:
>>> 
>>> "The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK. Selected Xcode must have an iOS
>>> SDK among: 6.1, 7.1, 8.2, 9.2 and 10.0”
>>> 
>>> When I look in Xcode though, I have iOS 9.1 and iOS 9.2 installed.
>>> I can also see the installed SDK’s in the /developer folder on my mac but
>>> When I click “Add Entry” these simulators and their parent folders are not
>>> selectable (grayed out)
>>> 
>>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>> 
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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[Dave Kilroy]

Ach - I should have written “Xcode 8.1” and “Xcode81.app" 

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Dave Kilroy <d...@applicationinsight.com>
> Subject: Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode
> Date: 3 November 2016 at 10:05:31 GMT
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> 
> Yep Thierry is right - still too early to use Xcode 8.1.1
> 
> BTW if you’re going to have multiple versions of Xcode on you machine (which 
> is a sensible thing to do if you’re going to have multiple versions of 
> LiveCode on your machine) the safest way of doing this is to have each of 
> them in their own folder in the Applications folder rather than renaming the 
> .app bundle to something like “Xcode811.app”
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer, 
>> but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1. 
>> 
>> Hope someone else could confirm... 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> 
>> Thierry 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2016-11-03 9:57 GMT+01:00 John Allijn <[hidden email] 
>> <http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node=4710003=0>>:
>>  
>> 
>> > Hi, 
>> > Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now 
>> > LiveCode can’t find any simulators for iOS. 
>> > In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I 
>> > click Add Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error: 
>> > 
>> > "The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK. Selected Xcode must have an iOS 
>> > SDK among: 6.1, 7.1, 8.2, 9.2 and 10.0” 
>> > 
>> > When I look in Xcode though, I have iOS 9.1 and iOS 9.2 installed. 
>> > I can also see the installed SDK’s in the /developer folder on my mac but 
>> > When I click “Add Entry” these simulators and their parent folders are not 
>> > selectable (grayed out) 
>> > 
>> > Am I doing something wrong? 
>> >
> 

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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[Dave Kilroy]

Yep Thierry is right - still too early to use Xcode 8.1.1

BTW if you’re going to have multiple versions of Xcode on you machine (which is 
a sensible thing to do if you’re going to have multiple versions of LiveCode on 
your machine) the safest way of doing this is to have each of them in their own 
folder in the Applications folder rather than renaming the .app bundle to 
something like “Xcode811.app”

Dave


> Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer, 
> but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1. 
> 
> Hope someone else could confirm... 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Thierry 
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-11-03 9:57 GMT+01:00 John Allijn <[hidden email] 
> >:
>  
> 
> > Hi, 
> > Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now 
> > LiveCode can’t find any simulators for iOS. 
> > In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I 
> > click Add Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error: 
> > 
> > "The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK. Selected Xcode must have an iOS 
> > SDK among: 6.1, 7.1, 8.2, 9.2 and 10.0” 
> > 
> > When I look in Xcode though, I have iOS 9.1 and iOS 9.2 installed. 
> > I can also see the installed SDK’s in the /developer folder on my mac but 
> > When I click “Add Entry” these simulators and their parent folders are not 
> > selectable (grayed out) 
> > 
> > Am I doing something wrong? 
> >

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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[John Allijn]

Installing livecode 9.0.0 DP1  does not fix it. I'm now downloadind the ios10.0 
simulator. Maybe that helps...

> Op 3 nov. 2016 om 10:07 heeft Thierry Douez  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer,
> but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1.
> 
> Hope someone else could confirm...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Thierry
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-11-03 9:57 GMT+01:00 John Allijn :
> 
>> Hi,
>> Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now
>> LiveCode can’t find any simulators for iOS.
>> In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I
>> click Add Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error:
>> 
>> "The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK. Selected Xcode must have an iOS
>> SDK among: 6.1, 7.1, 8.2, 9.2 and 10.0”
>> 
>> When I look in Xcode though, I have iOS 9.1 and iOS 9.2 installed.
>> I can also see the installed SDK’s in the /developer folder on my mac but
>> When I click “Add Entry” these simulators and their parent folders are not
>> selectable (grayed out)
>> 
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>> 
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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[John Allijn]

Yes, 8.0 used to work just fine but I thought it would be a good idea to bring 
everything up to date...

> Op 3 nov. 2016 om 10:07 heeft Thierry Douez  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer,
> but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1.
> 
> Hope someone else could confirm...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Thierry
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-11-03 9:57 GMT+01:00 John Allijn :
> 
>> Hi,
>> Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now
>> LiveCode can’t find any simulators for iOS.
>> In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I
>> click Add Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error:
>> 
>> "The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK. Selected Xcode must have an iOS
>> SDK among: 6.1, 7.1, 8.2, 9.2 and 10.0”
>> 
>> When I look in Xcode though, I have iOS 9.1 and iOS 9.2 installed.
>> I can also see the installed SDK’s in the /developer folder on my mac but
>> When I click “Add Entry” these simulators and their parent folders are not
>> selectable (grayed out)
>> 
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>> 
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Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[Thierry Douez]

Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer,
but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1.

Hope someone else could confirm...

Regards,

Thierry



2016-11-03 9:57 GMT+01:00 John Allijn :

> Hi,
> Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now
> LiveCode can’t find any simulators for iOS.
> In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I
> click Add Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error:
>
> "The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK. Selected Xcode must have an iOS
> SDK among: 6.1, 7.1, 8.2, 9.2 and 10.0”
>
> When I look in Xcode though, I have iOS 9.1 and iOS 9.2 installed.
> I can also see the installed SDK’s in the /developer folder on my mac but
> When I click “Add Entry” these simulators and their parent folders are not
> selectable (grayed out)
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
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iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

[John Allijn]

Hi, 
Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now LiveCode 
can’t find any simulators for iOS. 
In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I click Add 
Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error: 

"The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK. Selected Xcode must have an iOS SDK 
among: 6.1, 7.1, 8.2, 9.2 and 10.0”

When I look in Xcode though, I have iOS 9.1 and iOS 9.2 installed. 
I can also see the installed SDK’s in the /developer folder on my mac but When 
I click “Add Entry” these simulators and their parent folders are not 
selectable (grayed out)

Am I doing something wrong?

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Re: Widgets don't show in iOS simulator or on iPad?

[Glen Bojsza]

Hi Monte,

You were correct!

I figured this out 6 months ago when I did the first app but forgot about
since not doing anything since then.

Thanks.

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> Are they selected in standalone settings? On 8.0.1 that's on the copy
> files pane.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 18 Jun 2016, at 11:45 AM, Glen Bojsza  wrote:
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
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Re: Widgets don't show in iOS simulator or on iPad?

[Monte Goulding]

Are they selected in standalone settings? On 8.0.1 that's on the copy files 
pane.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jun 2016, at 11:45 AM, Glen Bojsza  wrote:
> 
> Any suggestions?


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Widgets don't show in iOS simulator or on iPad?

[Glen Bojsza]

I have two apps with very similar layouts, groups and widgets.

*System Details*

XCode is Version 6.2 (6C131e)

OS X 10.9.5

LC 8.0.1 Indy

I build for iPad iOS 8.2

One app looks correct with all widgets, fields etc

One app doesn't show any widgets??

Even when I create a new app I can't get the widgets to show any more...why
in the one app they do show I have no idea.

This should be pretty straight forward at this stage of the game but
something is really missing!

Any suggestions?

regards,

Glen
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Re: iOS Simulator Behaves Strangely in LC8DP15

[Neil Roger]

Hi Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami,

I've been working with 8.0 DP15 for iOS builds and have not come across 
any major stumbling blocks.


In regards to the simultor size, this sounds like a simulator scaling 
issue on your display. You should be able to resolve this by selecting 
one of the scale options via the iOs simulators "Window--->Scale" menu 
option.


For the iOS build, if the error messages persist after multiple build 
attempts, please submit a bug report with our QC team and we will 
happily investigate further-


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On 15/03/2016 05:08, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:

We are kicking off development of a new app.

I developing this from ground zero in LC8 (dp 15)

LC --> Preferences --> Mobile Support --> iOS SDKs
#  giving me a green light
Available device SDKs: 9.2
Available simulators: 9.2

Stack is set to fullscreenMode showAll

But when I run it in the simulator

1) I don't really get the size of iPhone 6Plus.. instead I get a rect that 
fills my entire cinema display top to bottom but about 1028 left-to right,

2) and the stack is inside it at some bizarre huge size with scroll bars.

Is this known/broken? or is there something I need to do?

Also if I actually try a build... I get several screens full of errors.

Are we premature trying to build for iOS from LC 8 (Indy)? Anyone else having 
better luck?


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iOS Simulator Behaves Strangely in LC8DP15

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

We are kicking off development of a new app.

I developing this from ground zero in LC8 (dp 15)

LC --> Preferences --> Mobile Support --> iOS SDKs
#  giving me a green light
Available device SDKs: 9.2
Available simulators: 9.2

Stack is set to fullscreenMode showAll

But when I run it in the simulator

1) I don't really get the size of iPhone 6Plus.. instead I get a rect that 
fills my entire cinema display top to bottom but about 1028 left-to right,

2) and the stack is inside it at some bizarre huge size with scroll bars.

Is this known/broken? or is there something I need to do?

Also if I actually try a build... I get several screens full of errors.

Are we premature trying to build for iOS from LC 8 (Indy)? Anyone else having 
better luck?


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iOS Simulator crashes with externals

[Monte Goulding]

Hi LiveCoders

I’m just making you all aware of an issue introduced in the recent releases of 
LiveCode where apps crash in the simulator if they have externals. The issue is 
a result of a change in the standalone builder. If you experience this issue 
there is an easy workaround which you can apply:

edit the script of stack “revSaveAsiOSStandalone”

Find the command symlinkRedirect

Insert the following as the first line of the command:

if there is a file pTarget then exit symlinkRedirect

I’ll take this opportunity to remind people of the special running on mergExt 
Complete for the rest of the month. 3 years of access to updates for $499 and 
the first 5 get an extra 6 months. http://mergext .com/special

Cheers

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Re: Monitoring stdout on iOS simulator

[J. Landman Gay]

On 9/21/2015 3:43 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:

Hi Jacque,

Xcode now has a “console” built into it, that I’m pretty sure still
works with LiveCodes “put” command. With your device plugged in, fire
up a recent version of Xcode, select the device in the Devices
window, then click the little triangle icon to the right of the
Filter field. That should show you the output from the device.


Thanks, but I was hoping to see output from the simulator since I need 
to test on various devices I don't have. It doesn't sound like it's 
possible, which is too bad because it used to work great.


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Re: Monitoring stdout on iOS simulator

[panagiotis merakos]

Hi Jacque,

It is possible to see the output in the simulator. If I remember correctly,
you can do:

Launch iOS Simulator -> Menu Bar -> Debug -> Open System Log

Regards,
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> On 9/21/2015 3:43 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
>
>> Hi Jacque,
>>
>> Xcode now has a “console” built into it, that I’m pretty sure still
>> works with LiveCodes “put” command. With your device plugged in, fire
>> up a recent version of Xcode, select the device in the Devices
>> window, then click the little triangle icon to the right of the
>> Filter field. That should show you the output from the device.
>>
>
> Thanks, but I was hoping to see output from the simulator since I need to
> test on various devices I don't have. It doesn't sound like it's possible,
> which is too bad because it used to work great.
>
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Re: Monitoring stdout on iOS simulator

[J. Landman Gay]

On 9/21/2015 5:50 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote:


It is possible to see the output in the simulator. If I remember correctly,
you can do:

Launch iOS Simulator -> Menu Bar -> Debug -> Open System Log


Thank you! Yes, it does work. In the past it was possible to just launch 
Console and choose "All Messages", and logging showed up there. I 
haven't been able to do that for a long time, but choosing the menu item 
from within the simulator does it.


Happy dance. This makes things much easier.

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Monitoring stdout on iOS simulator

[J. Landman Gay]

Way back when, we used to be able to see output from the iOS simulator 
by watching the Mac Console app. That stopped working some time ago. Is 
it possible to view stdout from the simulator any more?


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Re: Monitoring stdout on iOS simulator

[Chris Sheffield]

Hi Jacque,

Xcode now has a “console” built into it, that I’m pretty sure still works with 
LiveCodes “put” command. With your device plugged in, fire up a recent version 
of Xcode, select the device in the Devices window, then click the little 
triangle icon to the right of the Filter field. That should show you the output 
from the device.

Good luck!

Chris

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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:28 PM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote:
> 
> Way back when, we used to be able to see output from the iOS simulator by 
> watching the Mac Console app. That stopped working some time ago. Is it 
> possible to view stdout from the simulator any more?
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Re: iOS simulator and iOS 8 [Was sqlite and iOS 8]

[Monte Goulding]

Just don't click the test flight button anymore because apple broke it :-(

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 On 11 Mar 2015, at 6:11 pm, Gerry gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You are wasting time :) Use Monte's mergTestApp plug in. Makes deploying to a 
 connected device simple as...click.
 
 g
 
 
 On 8 Mar 2015, at 6:41 am, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:
 
 But in the end I just didn't have the time so I went the==drag the
 .app into the device using Xcode. Only takes 10 seconds with a click and
 drag.
 
 
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Re: iOS simulator and iOS 8 [Was sqlite and iOS 8]

[Dave Kilroy]

Actually the iOS simulator start up times with 7.0.3 has been pretty good -
but I don't trust it anymore and hardly ever use it - better to get on a
real device and test properly (what is the point of testing with an
unpredictable simulator?). It may be I'm being too hard on the simulator but
I've been doing more Android work recently where the emulator is a joke and
I test on a real device 100% of the time



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Re: iOS simulator and iOS 8 [Was sqlite and iOS 8]

[Gerry]

You are wasting time :) Use Monte's mergTestApp plug in. Makes deploying to a 
connected device simple as...click.

g


 On 8 Mar 2015, at 6:41 am, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:
 
 But in the end I just didn't have the time so I went the==drag the
 .app into the device using Xcode. Only takes 10 seconds with a click and
 drag. 


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iOS simulator and iOS 8 [Was sqlite and iOS 8]

[Ralph DiMola]

Dave Kilroy Wrote:
However for me the iOS simulator has recently been almost useless and I
test directly on the device.

Me Too. I saw there was some fiddling that you could do to make it
work...maybe. There was some weirdness going on between different devices/OS
combos. But in the end I just didn't have the time so I went the==drag the
.app into the device using Xcode. Only takes 10 seconds with a click and
drag. It's Still not as fast as the old pre iOS 8 days when one could just
hit the test button... and BAM the app was running and you could test on all
device types without having to buy one.


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Kilroy
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:25 AM
To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
Subject: RE: sqlite and iOS 8

Also no problems here with sqlite and iOS - however for me the iOS simulator
has recently been almost useless and I test directly on the device.

However there is currently a problem with sqlite drivers on OS X
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14295 (but there is a workaround)



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Re: iOS simulator and iOS 8 [Was sqlite and iOS 8]

[Mike Kerner]

so what issues are you having with the simulator?  I'm having nothing that
I notice.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
wrote:

 Dave Kilroy Wrote:
 However for me the iOS simulator has recently been almost useless and I
 test directly on the device.

 Me Too. I saw there was some fiddling that you could do to make it
 work...maybe. There was some weirdness going on between different
 devices/OS
 combos. But in the end I just didn't have the time so I went the==drag the
 .app into the device using Xcode. Only takes 10 seconds with a click and
 drag. It's Still not as fast as the old pre iOS 8 days when one could just
 hit the test button... and BAM the app was running and you could test on
 all
 device types without having to buy one.


 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


 -Original Message-
 From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Dave Kilroy
 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:25 AM
 To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: RE: sqlite and iOS 8

 Also no problems here with sqlite and iOS - however for me the iOS
 simulator
 has recently been almost useless and I test directly on the device.

 However there is currently a problem with sqlite drivers on OS X
 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14295 (but there is a
 workaround)



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RE: iOS simulator and iOS 8 [Was sqlite and iOS 8]

[Ralph DiMola]

The simulator just locks up and never start the app. I get the The
simulator seems to be taking a long time to start Click continue and you
get Unable to start simulation. If you try it one or 2 more times the app
will start up. At this point it's just quicker to use the device. OSX 10.9.5
LC 6.7.3 Xcode 6.1.1

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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Kerner
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:49 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: iOS simulator and iOS 8 [Was sqlite and iOS 8]

so what issues are you having with the simulator?  I'm having nothing that I
notice.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
wrote:

 Dave Kilroy Wrote:
 However for me the iOS simulator has recently been almost useless and 
 I
 test directly on the device.

 Me Too. I saw there was some fiddling that you could do to make it 
 work...maybe. There was some weirdness going on between different 
 devices/OS combos. But in the end I just didn't have the time so I 
 went the==drag the .app into the device using Xcode. Only takes 10 
 seconds with a click and drag. It's Still not as fast as the old pre 
 iOS 8 days when one could just hit the test button... and BAM the app 
 was running and you could test on all device types without having to 
 buy one.


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 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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 To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: RE: sqlite and iOS 8

 Also no problems here with sqlite and iOS - however for me the iOS 
 simulator has recently been almost useless and I test directly on the 
 device.

 However there is currently a problem with sqlite drivers on OS X
 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14295 (but there is a
 workaround)



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SQLite problem on iOS Simulator

[Klaus major-k]

Hi friends,

strange problem when using SQLite in the iOS Simulator.
LC 6.6.2, XCode 5.1, Simulator iOS 7.1

Database file copied to specialfolderpath(documents)

In general all database access runs fine, but there is one handler where 
CONSOLE 
outputs an script error, found out by using a TRY structure.
Not to mention that this runs fine on the desktop!?

This function:
##
function db_getPickContent tTable
   put numtochar(1) into tRowDel
   put numtochar(2) into tLineDel
   put db_id() into tDBID
   
   put SELECT name,id FROM  tTable into tSQL
   try
  put revDataFromQuery(tRowDel,tLineDel,tDBID,tSQL) into tRetValue  
   catch ernum
  put ernum
   end try
   return db_pickcontent2array(tRetValue)
end db_getPickContent
###

ALWAYS outputs this errorcode: 219,488,11,revDataFromQuery 
219 = error in function handler and points to the revDatafromquery function 
on line 488 of my script!? So the revDatafromquery never gets executed!

I am clueless, any hints very welcome!
Or are there problems in general with SQLite in the simulator?
Do not have a real device to test.

Thanks a lot in advance!


Best

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Re: SQLite problem on iOS Simulator

[Klaus major-k]

Hi all,

of course I need to check SQLIte on the iOS tab in the standalone builder 
settings! 8-)

Am 06.07.2014 um 16:46 schrieb Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de:

 Hi friends,
 
 strange problem when using SQLite in the iOS Simulator.
 LC 6.6.2, XCode 5.1, Simulator iOS 7.1
 
 Database file copied to specialfolderpath(documents)
 
 In general all database access runs fine, but there is one handler where 
 CONSOLE 
 outputs an script error, found out by using a TRY structure.
 Not to mention that this runs fine on the desktop!?
 
 This function:
 ##
 function db_getPickContent tTable
   put numtochar(1) into tRowDel
   put numtochar(2) into tLineDel
   put db_id() into tDBID
 
   put SELECT name,id FROM  tTable into tSQL
   try
  put revDataFromQuery(tRowDel,tLineDel,tDBID,tSQL) into tRetValue  
   catch ernum
  put ernum
   end try
   return db_pickcontent2array(tRetValue)
 end db_getPickContent
 ###
 
 ALWAYS outputs this errorcode: 219,488,11,revDataFromQuery 
 219 = error in function handler and points to the revDatafromquery function 
 on line 488 of my script!? So the revDatafromquery never gets executed!
 
 I am clueless, any hints very welcome!
 Or are there problems in general with SQLite in the simulator?
 Do not have a real device to test.
 
 Thanks a lot in advance!

Best

Klaus

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Re: SQLite problem on iOS Simulator

[Peter Haworth]

Have you checked the contents of tDBID?  I don;t see it as a a parameter to
your function.

Pete
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Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html


On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:

 Hi friends,

 strange problem when using SQLite in the iOS Simulator.
 LC 6.6.2, XCode 5.1, Simulator iOS 7.1

 Database file copied to specialfolderpath(documents)

 In general all database access runs fine, but there is one handler where
 CONSOLE
 outputs an script error, found out by using a TRY structure.
 Not to mention that this runs fine on the desktop!?

 This function:
 ##
 function db_getPickContent tTable
put numtochar(1) into tRowDel
put numtochar(2) into tLineDel
put db_id() into tDBID

put SELECT name,id FROM  tTable into tSQL
try
   put revDataFromQuery(tRowDel,tLineDel,tDBID,tSQL) into tRetValue
catch ernum
   put ernum
end try
return db_pickcontent2array(tRetValue)
 end db_getPickContent
 ###

 ALWAYS outputs this errorcode: 219,488,11,revDataFromQuery
 219 = error in function handler and points to the revDatafromquery
 function
 on line 488 of my script!? So the revDatafromquery never gets executed!

 I am clueless, any hints very welcome!
 Or are there problems in general with SQLite in the simulator?
 Do not have a real device to test.

 Thanks a lot in advance!


 Best

 Klaus


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Re: SQLite problem on iOS Simulator

[Klaus major-k]

Hi Peter,

Am 06.07.2014 um 21:26 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com:

 Have you checked the contents of tDBID?  I don;t see it as a a parameter to
 your function.

you obviously missed my second posting where I embarrassingly had to admit
that i did not check SQLite on the iOS tab of the standalone builder 
settings 8-)

 Pete
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 Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
 SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
 
 On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:
 
 Hi friends,
 
 strange problem when using SQLite in the iOS Simulator.
 LC 6.6.2, XCode 5.1, Simulator iOS 7.1
 ...

Best

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Re: SQLite problem on iOS Simulator

[Peter Haworth]

Ah, OK.  Glad it was a simple fix.

Pete
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On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:

 Hi Peter,

 Am 06.07.2014 um 21:26 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com:

  Have you checked the contents of tDBID?  I don;t see it as a a parameter
 to
  your function.

 you obviously missed my second posting where I embarrassingly had to admit
 that i did not check SQLite on the iOS tab of the standalone builder
 settings 8-)

  Pete
  lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
  Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
  SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
 
  On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:
 
  Hi friends,
 
  strange problem when using SQLite in the iOS Simulator.
  LC 6.6.2, XCode 5.1, Simulator iOS 7.1
  ...

 Best

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Multistacks and iOS simulator bug ?

[Ludovic Thébault]

Hello,

I've found something like a bug :

I've an stack which contains substacks (one for iPad, one for the retina 
iPhone). The mainstack is for the classic iPhone.

When i made changes on a substack without changed anything in the mainstack and 
i test on the simulator (even if i delete the app on the simulator before) : 
the change are not applied which is very confusing ! I need to modify something 
on the mainstack to see the change on my substack in the simulator.

I lost some neurons and hours on this ! ;)

Can someone confirm ?


Thanks.
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iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Christophe Leske]

Hi there,

i am an old time Director user who recently switched to LiveCode for 
mobile development.

Thanks to Colin Holgate for pointing me to this list.

After trying to figure out how to write and test my apps, I ran into a 
couple of issues which I cannot resolve... sigh.


I am trying to test my app using the simulator. There is an app for iPad 
and one for the iPhone.


I updated my OS to Mountain Lion (which is probably what is causing the 
trouble) and XCode to 4.5.5 in order to get the latest iOS SDK 6.0.



NOW:
- any previous SDK version does not run in the simulator, it is said 
that the SDK cannot be found (although I am offered a file picker 
showing a director in which there is the SDK 4.3 and 5.0), but it won't 
work.
Probably has to do with the fact that I have uninstalled XCode 4.3.3 
previously?


Can one reinstall older SDKs/Xcode versions on Lion?

- even when switching my app to the new iOS6 SDK, the simulator opens, 
shows the splash screen, then recloses the app right away without 
showing my stack.


What gives? Am I missing something?


I feel like upgrading to Mountain Lion was not such a good idea after 
all and I should have stuck with Lion instead - sigh... no downgrade 
possible I guess.



Although this is my first post, I am already so tired of all this 
up-,down- and sidegrading issues. I switched to the mac thinking that i 
would just work.


Was apparently mistaken...


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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Thomas McGrath III]

Christophe,

Any time you have a new Desktop OS, and a new Development IDE, and a new iOS, 
and a new Livecode version you are bound to run into issues until everything 
gets worked out and all caveats are resolved. As far as I know this would be 
the same on any platform.

With the new xCode, Apple decided to include a few simulators but only the one 
SDK. A few things to consider are:
1. GIve everything time to register. (xCode is tied into the Developer website 
for Provisioning Certs, etc.)
2. Open xCode to start the download of extras and specifically you need to 
download Legacy Simulators.
3. In Livecode check your preferences for mobile and re-link to the new xCode, 
ONLY. (conflicting xCodes will interfere with running the simulator)
4. In standalone settings for your app give the app a unique Internal App ID 
(if not you will run into a problem, or delete any versions of the app on the 
simulator)
5. In standalone settings re-select your Profile.
6. Save the App to set these settings.
7. Occasionally, you have to go fishing in Erie. (Don't laugh, this solved the 
whole problem for me.)
8. Reboot as necessary.

Actually, what really happened was that I rebooted my computer after the 
weekend fishing and all was fine so it just took time to settle in.


Thomas J McGrath III
3mcgr...@comcast.net

Lazy River Software
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com


On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Christophe Leske i...@multimedial.de wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 i am an old time Director user who recently switched to LiveCode for mobile 
 development.
 Thanks to Colin Holgate for pointing me to this list.
 
 After trying to figure out how to write and test my apps, I ran into a couple 
 of issues which I cannot resolve... sigh.
 
 I am trying to test my app using the simulator. There is an app for iPad and 
 one for the iPhone.
 
 I updated my OS to Mountain Lion (which is probably what is causing the 
 trouble) and XCode to 4.5.5 in order to get the latest iOS SDK 6.0.
 
 
 NOW:
 - any previous SDK version does not run in the simulator, it is said that the 
 SDK cannot be found (although I am offered a file picker showing a director 
 in which there is the SDK 4.3 and 5.0), but it won't work.
 Probably has to do with the fact that I have uninstalled XCode 4.3.3 
 previously?
 
 Can one reinstall older SDKs/Xcode versions on Lion?
 
 - even when switching my app to the new iOS6 SDK, the simulator opens, shows 
 the splash screen, then recloses the app right away without showing my stack.
 
 What gives? Am I missing something?
 
 
 I feel like upgrading to Mountain Lion was not such a good idea after all and 
 I should have stuck with Lion instead - sigh... no downgrade possible I guess.
 
 
 Although this is my first post, I am already so tired of all this up-,down- 
 and sidegrading issues. I switched to the mac thinking that i would just 
 work.
 
 Was apparently mistaken...
 
 
 Thanks for any help you might be able to provide,
 
 -- 
 Christophe Leske
 multimedial.de
 
 
 www.multimedial.de - i...@multimedial.de
 Hohler Strasse 17 - 51645 Gummersbach
 +49(0)2261-99824540 // +49(0)177-2497031
 
 
 
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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Christophe Leske]

Am 30.10.12 14:02, schrieb Thomas McGrath III:

Actually, what really happened was that I rebooted my computer after the 
weekend fishing and all was fine so it just took time to settle in.


Hello Thomas,

thank you for your reply.

Downloading and installing the old simulator fixed it for me, I can now 
run and test my app in the newly installed 5.1 simulator just fine.



But just to make sure: there are people here on the list, using MacOS X 
Mountain Lion (10.8), running apps in the simulator with the iOS 6.0 
SDK, right?


Becuase that is still not working for me. The app which runs fine in the 
5.1 simulator just recloses after startup when running in the iOS 6 
simulator (goes the same when switching the SDK to version number 6.0).



I just want to make sure that I am not trying something which is known 
to cause problems,


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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Colin Holgate]

Welcome!

Not sure where you got Xcode 4.5.5 from, the latest prerelease one I can see is 
4.5.2, and when I get prerelease ones I tend to keep the existing release one 
installed too, which would be 4.5.1.

In Xcode Preferences there is Downloads section, where you can download older 
SDKs for it to use.

To use The latest Xcode you want to make sure you're using the release version 
of LiveCode 5.5.3. Earlier versions did give the symptom where the app would 
open and then immediately quit.
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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Christophe Leske]

Am Tue Oct 30 14:28:00 2012 schrieb Colin Holgate:

Welcome!

Not sure where you got Xcode 4.5.5 from, the latest prerelease one I can see is 
4.5.2, and when I get prerelease ones I tend to keep the existing release one 
installed too, which would be 4.5.1.



Hi,

my fault, I got indeed 4.5.1 (downloaded from the app store).


In Xcode Preferences there is Downloads section, where you can download older 
SDKs for it to use.


Yes, I found that and that got me going with the 5.1 simulator.



To use The latest Xcode you want to make sure you're using the release version 
of LiveCode 5.5.3. Earlier versions did give the symptom where the app would 
open and then immediately quit.


Ok, so this is where I get uncomfortable, as I am just a normal paying 
customer.
I got 5.5.2 here - in order to get access to the latest LiveCode 
Version, i am supposed to subscribe to a developer's program?


I find that to be quite daft after having paid 500€ in order to get the 
software license!



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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Matthias Rebbe]

Hi Christophe,

welcome to the list.

There is also a little problem with the ios 6 simulator: The new simulator does 
not like like apps with the same domain installed in your simulator. This could 
give an error message like Unable to start simulation: iOS Simulator failed to 
install application.
This is not a LiveCode problem, but an iOS 6 simulator issue.

Regards,

Matthias

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Am 30.10.2012 um 14:28 schrieb Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net:

 Welcome!
 
 Not sure where you got Xcode 4.5.5 from, the latest prerelease one I can see 
 is 4.5.2, and when I get prerelease ones I tend to keep the existing release 
 one installed too, which would be 4.5.1.
 
 In Xcode Preferences there is Downloads section, where you can download older 
 SDKs for it to use.
 
 To use The latest Xcode you want to make sure you're using the release 
 version of LiveCode 5.5.3. Earlier versions did give the symptom where the 
 app would open and then immediately quit.
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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Christophe Leske]

Ok, so this is where I get uncomfortable, as I am just a normal paying 
customer.
I got 5.5.2 here - in order to get access to the latest LiveCode 
Version, i am supposed to subscribe to a developer's program?


I find that to be quite daft after having paid 500€ in order to get 
the software license!

Apologies again,

version 5.5.3 slipped through my attention, I got it from the livecode 
website...


Will check if that does the trick. Thanks Colin!

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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Matthias Rebbe]

Christophe,

when did you purchase? Try to contact supp...@runrev.com and describe your 
problem with the iOS6 simulator.
Maybe they find a solution for you. They are more than fair.

Regards,

Matthias

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Am 30.10.2012 um 14:33 schrieb Christophe Leske i...@multimedial.de:

 Am Tue Oct 30 14:28:00 2012 schrieb Colin Holgate:
 Welcome!
 
 Not sure where you got Xcode 4.5.5 from, the latest prerelease one I can see 
 is 4.5.2, and when I get prerelease ones I tend to keep the existing release 
 one installed too, which would be 4.5.1.
 
 
 Hi,
 
 my fault, I got indeed 4.5.1 (downloaded from the app store).
 
 In Xcode Preferences there is Downloads section, where you can download 
 older SDKs for it to use.
 
 Yes, I found that and that got me going with the 5.1 simulator.
 
 
 To use The latest Xcode you want to make sure you're using the release 
 version of LiveCode 5.5.3. Earlier versions did give the symptom where the 
 app would open and then immediately quit.
 
 Ok, so this is where I get uncomfortable, as I am just a normal paying 
 customer.
 I got 5.5.2 here - in order to get access to the latest LiveCode Version, i 
 am supposed to subscribe to a developer's program?
 
 I find that to be quite daft after having paid 500€ in order to get the 
 software license!
 
 
 --
 Christophe Leske
 multimedial.de
 
 
 www.multimedial.de - i...@multimedial.de
 Hohler Strasse 17 - 51645 Gummersbach
 +49(0)2261-99824540 // +49(0)177-2497031
 
 
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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Christophe Leske]

Hi Matthias et al,

the new version 5.5.3 got me going again, I am fine now besides the 
fact that my OS X harddisk is now completely filled...


But thanks for the quick turnaround!

Greets,
Christophe Leske


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Re: iOS simulator closes right after opening of app

[Colin Holgate]

To get prerelease ones you would, yes, but check your RunRev account, see if 
the is  5.5.3 release version waiting for you.


On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Christophe Leske i...@multimedial.de wrote:

 
 
 Ok, so this is where I get uncomfortable, as I am just a normal paying 
 customer.
 I got 5.5.2 here - in order to get access to the latest LiveCode Version, i 
 am supposed to subscribe to a developer's program?

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iOS Simulator

[Dave McKee]

running mac osx lion 10.8.2
using LC v5.5.3 RC2

have selected target as being; iPhone simulator 5.1

have app that was working ok in simulator but as of moving from 5.5.2 to 5.5.3 
rc2, have run into a strange bug (?).

test build the app, app opens in iOS simulator, when I quit app and then hold 
down icon, to delete it, jiggle icon appears with (X) but if I;
  1. hit home, then ok
  2. hit (X), then app is not deleted and hitting home button is unresponsive
  a. quit IOS simulator
  b. restart iOS simulator, the test app is still there

Also;
  I see exactly the same symptoms 1 to 2b if I launch Xcode and then iOS 
Simulator



what form of Apple hell have I fallen into ?
is there anyone who knows how to clear out the test app in the iOS Simulator 
now that it has a death grip on it ?
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Re: iOS Simulator

[Dave McKee]

Fixed by upgrading to latest XCode

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-10-12, at 1:55 PM, Dave McKee sarawakd...@rogers.com wrote:

 running mac osx lion 10.8.2
 using LC v5.5.3 RC2
 
 have selected target as being; iPhone simulator 5.1
 
 have app that was working ok in simulator but as of moving from 5.5.2 to 
 5.5.3 rc2, have run into a strange bug (?).
 
 test build the app, app opens in iOS simulator, when I quit app and then hold 
 down icon, to delete it, jiggle icon appears with (X) but if I;
  1. hit home, then ok
  2. hit (X), then app is not deleted and hitting home button is unresponsive
  a. quit IOS simulator
  b. restart iOS simulator, the test app is still there
 
 Also;
  I see exactly the same symptoms 1 to 2b if I launch Xcode and then iOS 
 Simulator
 
 
 
 what form of Apple hell have I fallen into ?
 is there anyone who knows how to clear out the test app in the iOS Simulator 
 now that it has a death grip on it ?
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re: iOS simulator won't work

[Lars Brehmer]

Thanks a million to Colin (again) and Guglielmo!

I knew I was overlooking something simple, and sure enough the simulator now 
works thanks to replacing Xcode 4.5 with xCode 4.4.1

So it works, but it is of slightly limited use to me (unless I am overlooking 
something obvious again.)

I guess that only native controls are resized for the different resolutions, 
and since I make all of my own buttons, icons, graphics, nothing gets resized.

I am making this for retina display, so in the regular simulator only the upper 
left portion of the app can be seen, and the retina simulator seems unable to 
be taller than the screen height, so I can't move it up to see the bottom part 
of the app.

I guess the real testing will only start when I prepare it for use on my iPad.

Apologies in advance if I don't that that to work without calling for help 
again ;-)

Cheers,

Lars

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Re: iOS simulator won't work

[Guglielmo Braguglia]

Hi Lars,
unfortunately NOT ... *nothing is automatically resized* ... you have to 
do everything by hand (... adjusting the stack size, the control size, 
changing the images, etc, etc) ...  :)


Guglielmo

On 11.10.2012 14:30, Lars Brehmer wrote:

Thanks a million to Colin (again) and Guglielmo!

I knew I was overlooking something simple, and sure enough the simulator now 
works thanks to replacing Xcode 4.5 with xCode 4.4.1

So it works, but it is of slightly limited use to me (unless I am overlooking 
something obvious again.)

I guess that only native controls are resized for the different resolutions, 
and since I make all of my own buttons, icons, graphics, nothing gets resized.

I am making this for retina display, so in the regular simulator only the upper 
left portion of the app can be seen, and the retina simulator seems unable to 
be taller than the screen height, so I can't move it up to see the bottom part 
of the app.

I guess the real testing will only start when I prepare it for use on my iPad.

Apologies in advance if I don't that that to work without calling for help 
again ;-)

Cheers,

Lars

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re: iOS simulator won't (still) work

[Lars Brehmer]

Thanks again for the reply Colin!

 Something that may help narrow down the issue, what happens if you give the 
 app a custom icon? Does it then show that icon and fail to open, or is it 
 still a white icon?
 
 Which version of LiveCode are you using, and which iOS version?


I quickly made a test icon (72 X 72 saved as .png 24) and in the iOS standalone 
settings clicked on pre-rendered.

In the simulator the icon showed up properly but the result was the same - it 
just slides up and left, returns but nothing else happens. And when I 
double-click the home button, the icon shows up in the running apps.

liveCode 5.5.2 build 1492

OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.2

Xcode 4.5.1

I still think I am overlooking something obvious but have no idea what that 
could be.

The full standalone application settings:

Build for iOS   iPad3.1.3 or lateruniversal

myTestAppversion 1.0.0

com.warrenbrehmer.myTestApp

Profile   myProfile (which is what I oh so cleverly named my profile;-)

no externals

prerendered icon

no splash screen

portrait

no custom URL scheme

no requirements and restrictions

status bar visible - default

Cheers,

Lars






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Re: iOS simulator won't (still) work

[Guglielmo Braguglia]

Do you know that this configuration is *NOT* officially supported by 
RunRev ?


This is what RunRev OFFICIALLY say (/... on the developers list/) :

with LiveCode 5.5.2 you have to use xCode 4.4.1
with LiveCode 5.5.3 (/when will be officially released/) can use 
xCode 4.5


so ... I think is normal to have problems ... :-(

Guglielmo


On 09.10.2012 14:02, Lars Brehmer wrote:

Thanks again for the reply Colin!


Something that may help narrow down the issue, what happens if you give the app 
a custom icon? Does it then show that icon and fail to open, or is it still a 
white icon?

Which version of LiveCode are you using, and which iOS version?


I quickly made a test icon (72 X 72 saved as .png 24) and in the iOS standalone 
settings clicked on pre-rendered.

In the simulator the icon showed up properly but the result was the same - it 
just slides up and left, returns but nothing else happens. And when I 
double-click the home button, the icon shows up in the running apps.

liveCode 5.5.2 build 1492

OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.2

Xcode 4.5.1

I still think I am overlooking something obvious but have no idea what that 
could be.

The full standalone application settings:

Build for iOS   iPad3.1.3 or lateruniversal

myTestAppversion 1.0.0

com.warrenbrehmer.myTestApp

Profile   myProfile (which is what I oh so cleverly named my profile;-)

no externals

prerendered icon

no splash screen

portrait

no custom URL scheme

no requirements and restrictions

status bar visible - default

Cheers,

Lars


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re: iOS simulator (still!) won't work

[Lars Brehmer]

Thanks for the reply Colin!

Unfortunately it still doesn't work!

 What are the chances!
 
 Some things may have become more strict over time, and you may have to enter 
 a more full app id.
 
 In that field initially there is com.yourcompany.yourapp, change that to 
 something else, say com.larsbrehmer.helloworldtest If that then doesn't 
 work, try selecting a provisioning profile.
 
 What I think may have happened is that at the time I wrote those instructions 
 the placeholder text was actually used as the app id, and so it worked. At 
 some point RunRev may have intentionally removed that text when you do a 
 test, so these days you have to enter your own id.
 
 At least that's my guess, and I was able to see the problem you saw, and then 
 get it to work by entering my own id, and selecting a provisioning file.


So I went through the provisioning process, which as everybody by now knows is 
quite lengthy. Still, the instructions were very good and I have the valid 
certificate in my Keychain. 

The only remark about the process was the final step, which is opening your 
project in Xcode and doing something. Since I use liveCode and don't use Xcode, 
I simply skipped this step. 

So I have the certificate and it still won't work.

I still get the white icon, but nothing happens. The weird thing is that when I 
double click the home button on the simulator, that icon is there in the open 
apps row as if it is running.

Anyone experienced this and solved it?

Cheers,

Lars

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re: iOS simulator won't work

[Lars Brehmer]

Thanks for the reply Colin!

Unfortunately it still doesn't work!

 What are the chances!
 
 Some things may have become more strict over time, and you may have to enter 
 a more full app id.
 
 In that field initially there is com.yourcompany.yourapp, change that to 
 something else, say com.larsbrehmer.helloworldtest If that then doesn't 
 work, try selecting a provisioning profile.
 
 What I think may have happened is that at the time I wrote those instructions 
 the placeholder text was actually used as the app id, and so it worked. At 
 some point RunRev may have intentionally removed that text when you do a 
 test, so these days you have to enter your own id.
 
 At least that's my guess, and I was able to see the problem you saw, and then 
 get it to work by entering my own id, and selecting a provisioning file.


So I went through the provisioning process, which as everybody knows is quite 
lengthy. Still, the instructions were perfect and I have the valid certificate 
in my Keychain. 

The only remark about the process was the final step, which is opening your 
project in Xcode and doing something. Since I use liveCode and don't use Xcode, 
I simply skipped this step. 

So I have the certificate and it still won't work.

I still get the white icon, but nothing happens. The weird thing is that when I 
double click the home button on the simulator, that icon is there as if it is 
running.

Anyone experienced this and solved it?

Cheers,

Lars

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Re: iOS simulator won't work

[Colin Holgate]

The instructions about Xcode were for when you get as far as testing on a 
device, it shouldn't affect whether it works in the simulator.

One thing I notice, I wrote that stuff before Apple changed Xcode to become a 
single application file. If you have a recent Xcode installed there may be a 
difference in how you have to do things. At the very least, what did you select 
in the LiveCode preferences under mobile support? With a recent Xcode you would 
want to be using a recent LiveCode, and choose the option for Xcode 4.3 or 
later, and then point to the single Xcode application file.

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iOS simulator won't work

[Lars Brehmer]

I am finally testing the waters of apps for the iPad, but my first problem is 
this:

I cannot get my stacks to open in the xCode simulator. All I ever see is a 
white, generic icon with my stack's name under it. When I click on it, it 
slides up and to the left out of sight, there is a pause and it slides back 
into place. No sign of my stack, mo mater how often I try.

I use Collin's book, which I bought from Amazon and absolutely love. But I am 
missing something here. In a nutshell, the steps provided in the book are:

1. create and save a main stack
2. set the size (his example is 1024 X 768, uncheck Resizable
3. put something on the card (example field with hello World text
4. open standalone settings, select iOS
5. Set orientation to Landscape
6. Close standalone settings dialog box
7. from the development  test target menu choose iPad simulator
8. development  test
9. your test stack is running in the simulator

I did everything several times, with variations, but 9 never happens. All I 
have ever seen is what I described above.

Whart am I missing? The book has been spot on for every little detail so far, 
so I wonder why this isn't working?

I am using Mountain Lion (10.8.2), LiveCode 5.5.2 and xCode 4.5 and in liveCode 
preferences  MObile Support  the location of developer root for iOS 5 and 
above is /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer

Tips or suggestions?

Cheers,

Lars 
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Re: iOS simulator won't work

[Colin Holgate]

On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Lars Brehmer larsbreh...@me.com wrote:

 Whart am I missing? The book has been spot on for every little detail so 
 far, so I wonder why this isn't working?


What are the chances!

Some things may have become more strict over time, and you may have to enter a 
more full app id.

In that field initially there is com.yourcompany.yourapp, change that to 
something else, say com.larsbrehmer.helloworldtest If that then doesn't work, 
try selecting a provisioning profile.

What I think may have happened is that at the time I wrote those instructions 
the placeholder text was actually used as the app id, and so it worked. At some 
point RunRev may have intentionally removed that text when you do a test, so 
these days you have to enter your own id.

At least that's my guess, and I was able to see the problem you saw, and then 
get it to work by entering my own id, and selecting a provisioning file.



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Re: iOS Simulator oddness

[Graham Samuel]

Yup, Colin, I forgot about the Test Target - I had just set the Standalone 
Settings to be iPhone/iPod (so not iPad) and thought that would be enough. The 
Test Target menu item only shows up when one isn't editing a script, which is a 
kind of lame excuse for forgetting about its existence.

Anyway problem solved, thanks.

Graham

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:45:51 -0400, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 What is Test Target set to in LiveCode?

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iOS Simulator oddness

[Graham Samuel]

I've been doing some testing on an iPhone app on my newish iMac. The simulator 
has been working as expected. I'm now on a trip and have switched to my MacBook 
which AFAIK has the same development software (LC 5.5, XCode 4.2.1, Simulator 
5.0 etc) - but now the simulator insists on opening in iPad portrait mode, with 
my app in the middle of the screen - exactly as happens when you open an 
iPod/iPhone app on a real iPad. If I switch the simulator to iPhone, my 
simulated app disappears. I can't get the simulator to open in iPhone mode.

I imagine I have done something wrong with the standalone settings of my app, 
but what? Can anyone suggest what's happening?

TIA

Graham

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RE: iOS Simulator oddness

[John Dixon]

Sounds like you have it set to ipad in the standalone application settings...

 I've been doing some testing on an iPhone app on my newish iMac. The 
 simulator has been working as expected. I'm now on a trip and have switched 
 to my MacBook which AFAIK has the same development software (LC 5.5, XCode 
 4.2.1, Simulator 5.0 etc) - but now the simulator insists on opening in iPad 
 portrait mode, with my app in the middle of the screen - exactly as happens 
 when you open an iPod/iPhone app on a real iPad. If I switch the simulator to 
 iPhone, my simulated app disappears. I can't get the simulator to open in 
 iPhone mode.
 
 I imagine I have done something wrong with the standalone settings of my app, 
 but what? Can anyone suggest what's happening?
 
 TIA
 
 Graham

  
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Re: iOS Simulator oddness

[Colin Holgate]

What is Test Target set to in LiveCode?

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