Re: Downloads aren't rev files
--- Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ken, That will be because they don't have their filetype creator set correctly for a Mac. At my web page: http://www.troz.net/Rev/ look for RevDroplet which is an AppleScript droplet to set those properties for a Rev stack. Just unzip the applet and drop the rev files on to it. The correct icon should appear and double-clciking should then open them in Rev. worked for me. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Yes, I'm back
Welcome Home, Heather ! Nice to see you back on stage ;-) Kind Regards, Pierre -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Nagey Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Yes, I'm back Thank you :) Thanks also to all the people who sent goodwill messages, I really appreciate them. Most of all, a huge vote of thanks to Jacque and to Graham Samuels, who voluntarily pitched in and took over the fearsome support workload while I was unwell. As most of you are probably already aware, a great new centralized support system has been devised while I was away, this should mean an end to unacceptable delays in response times when one or other staff member is out of action for whatever reason. Support email on virtually all subjects should now be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], where it will be sorted into the appropriate queue and the best person to answer it can pick it out and respond in a timely manner. This is such a wondrous improvement, I think I should get sick more often! Anyway, greetings one and all, its great to be back and watching the lists once more, Heather (checking the list admin hat still fits... Yep, a bit dusty but undented...) -- Heather Nagey ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
At 10:43 AM +0900 2/20/2004, Doug Lerner wrote: This is still confusing to me. If the location size of the group is the same as the window size then where are controls in the group that you want to scroll and see? Do you place them outside the rectangle of the card? That's right: they're outside the window boundaries, so scrolling brings them into view. (Or they're larger than the window boundaries: for example, if you want to scroll around a large image in a small window, the image will be bigger than the window is.) -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Binary objects
Hi, revoluzzers :-) I am brand new to Revolution, my first contacts with hypercard-like tools also were my last: Toolbook on Windows, about 12 years ago. I am currently trying to get comfortable with Revolution - or, more precisely, with Transcript - to minimize the work needed to get cross-platform tools. As a starter I plan to port some older tools I did in C, which read in JPEG files and parse the attached headers (JFIF etc) according to some specific rules, handling Photoshop-chunks etc. I understand that rewriting the decoding in Transcript would be best to get a cross-platform version. I have to admit that I find Transcript extremely difficult to read, at least imagining a larger project with complex parsing functions. Most likely this is a question of getting used to Transcript. My question now is: I have browsed the documentation but did not find a detailed description about how to handle binary objects. So that is why I described my test project above: I need to read in a JPEG file (no display needed or wanted), eventually decode it into a bitmap memory area (I understand this decoded bitmap is available as an object after the JPEG has been read in, I found something about that in the docs). And I need access to all header chunks in the file, so I can parse them. I would love to have a C-like language for that, since I am used to that for about 20 years or longer, but learning something new may be fun :-) Could someone here point me to the right place in the documentation where handling binary objects and parsing them is described? Erm, and: Is there a plain text version of the docs? I find the short chapters and the help-browser (on Windows) some kind of unsuportive :-) Many thanks for your assistance, Marc Albrecht A.C.T. / level-2 Glinder Str. 2 27432 Ebersdorf Deutschland Tel. 04765-830060 Fax. 04765-830064 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DATUM (was Re: control scructure repeat and next line)
Since you are working with lines, I should have stuck with lines. There is no Revolution jargon called datum, as far as I know; this is all my fault. I was also a bit puzzled, since datum is the german word for date :-) Dar Scott Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de As in 'Hot date'? ;-) Best wishes, David Glasgow Forensic Software and Services www.i-Psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Beginners global variable pb
Hi, I'm a beginner with Revolution (used other things in the past for interface dev) but decided to use it since it corresponds exactly to what I need for a cross-platform product prototype. My code maybe not the finest or the most elegant but it basically does what it is supposed to do up to now ;-) Now here is the problem I'm up to: - The first card let's the user select the language interface for the rest of the stack. I know how to change on the fly the texts on that card to the user's selection from the scrolling list field. But I haven't found a way to store that selection so that every text field on every card displays text in the correct language (LanguageChoice is a global variable defined in the stack script in open stack and modified in the language selection script). Since I defined the variable as global up in the stack I don't understand why it doesn't apply to every card and field. Maybe there is another way to do this? (On top of that the ideal for me would be to have a hidden card containing a table where each column would be a language and each row a field's content since I could then keep simpler code in the text fields and probably import and export the translations to work on it elsewhere than in Revolution. First I've got to figure out how to put content of cell (LanguageChoice,3) of field FullText of card Translation into field Headline but I think I'll try to figure that out on my own before coming here again ;-) TIA for any help. P.S. Oh! Just one more thing, is there a way to have an image put in such away that it appears in every cards at the same place when you create a new card? And if you modify that image you don't have to copy and paste hundreds of times? It ain't a priority but it would be cool ;-) -- Benoît Leraillez Nous n'avons pas les moyens d'acheter bon marché. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beginners global variable pb
Le 19/02/04 22:35, « Jeanne A. E. DeVoto » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The basic idea here is that, instead of having a hidden card, you have sets of custom properties for each card - one set for each language - to hold the correct text for that card. Ok but if I need to change texts because my translations are incorrect or if I add a new language, in a table I just add a column containing the texts and the whole stack is translated with a new language or I just import a tab separated new version and the errors are all corrected without having to go thru every card and finding the field properties by hand. Am I right? -- Benoît Leraillez Bien des personnes aiment à dire qu'elles ont une prédilection pour des choses «profondes», or, je me demande si ces personnes ne commettent pas des erreurs en prenant pour «profondes» des choses qui sont creuses. (S. Guitry) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DATUM (was Re: control scructure repeat and next line)
Hi Glasgow, Since you are working with lines, I should have stuck with lines. There is no Revolution jargon called datum, as far as I know; this is all my fault. I was also a bit puzzled, since datum is the german word for date :-) Dar Scott Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de As in 'Hot date'? ;-) Depends on the lady... ;-) But you're spoiled, David :-D Best wishes, David Glasgow Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Binary objects
You might want to check out the section titled Graphics and Images at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ also, I have some stacks which manipulate images using their binary data. Check out Image Compositing and Image Tools Example. They can be found at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm Also, consider searching the list via Google for the subject JPEG Header In fact there is a link at: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2003-May/004802.html And you can search the list via Google at: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com Welcome to Revolution...hope this helps:-) -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Binary objects
Hi, Chipp, You might want to check out the section titled Graphics and Images at: thanks a lot for the links, I'll dig my way through them! Also, consider searching the list via Google for the subject JPEG Header Thanks, I'm quite familar with those (at least) already ;-) Marc Albrecht A.C.T. / level-2 Glinder Str. 2 27432 Ebersdorf Deutschland Tel. 04765-830060 Fax. 04765-830064 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beginners global variable pb
I haven't used them but isn't this the case for using the property profiles? I thought I read that in the docs? Switch master profiles based upon language chosen. set up properties for each language and fill things up from there. TOm On Feb 19, 2004, at 12:33 PM, Benoit Leraillez wrote: Hi, I'm a beginner with Revolution (used other things in the past for interface dev) but decided to use it since it corresponds exactly to what I need for a cross-platform product prototype. My code maybe not the finest or the most elegant but it basically does what it is supposed to do up to now ;-) Now here is the problem I'm up to: - The first card let's the user select the language interface for the rest of the stack. I know how to change on the fly the texts on that card to the user's selection from the scrolling list field. But I haven't found a way to store that selection so that every text field on every card displays text in the correct language (LanguageChoice is a global variable defined in the stack script in open stack and modified in the language selection script). Since I defined the variable as global up in the stack I don't understand why it doesn't apply to every card and field. Maybe there is another way to do this? (On top of that the ideal for me would be to have a hidden card containing a table where each column would be a language and each row a field's content since I could then keep simpler code in the text fields and probably import and export the translations to work on it elsewhere than in Revolution. First I've got to figure out how to put content of cell (LanguageChoice,3) of field FullText of card Translation into field Headline but I think I'll try to figure that out on my own before coming here again ;-) TIA for any help. P.S. Oh! Just one more thing, is there a way to have an image put in such away that it appears in every cards at the same place when you create a new card? And if you modify that image you don't have to copy and paste hundreds of times? It ain't a priority but it would be cool ;-) -- Benoît Leraillez Nous n'avons pas les moyens d'acheter bon marché. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Cross Mac Platform Text Editing
Rob, Perhaps I'm going at this the wrong way but I think the problem must be related to the transfer. In the last couple years I've repeatedly moved from OS X to classic to OS 9 on the same computer and had no trouble opening AppleWorks 6 docs and Microsoft Word docs in any of the three platforms, created in any of the three platforms. Of course straight text files might be another issue, I have no experience there. Apple has apparently still not decided what to do with creator codes (and the entire resource fork, for that matter). Currently in OS X the creator code (if one exists) gets precedence over the file extension (if one exists). I am surprised moving the file by CD did not work. Just a note, on the file transfer problems I mentioned previously with flash cards stripping the resource fork; I did find transfers from OS 9 to OS X worked better than transfers made the other way. OS X also includes invisible files with file transfers (like ds_store) which become visible in OS 9. This is a real nightmare when you create automatic loading plugins in OS X and transfer them to OS 9 (Revolution will try to load the now visible ds_store as one of the plugins). Hope some of this helps you. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] UnixCal - Mac OS X only
Le 20 févr. 04, à 08:12, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : I found out that the FreeBSD basis for OS X includes a Terminal app called calendar, that reads a set of calendar files buried deep in the system. They are mainly lists of things that happened on this day.. or public holidays, as well as a few funny groups like dates of major events in the Lord of the Rings! Anyway, I decided it would be fun to have a Revolution front-end to display this data, since I wasn't going to wade through the Terminal every day to check it! If anyone is interested, both the app and the stack file are available at: http://www.troz.net/ This is Mac OS X only, and I haven't tested it on anything other than 10.3.2 but it is possible that it would run on Unix/Linux if they have the calendar files and they are stored in the same folders. If anyone proves or disproves this, please let me know. Have fun, Fantastic.. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
Devin, This is a known issue on bugzilla and hopefully it will be fixed soon. I also think this is an OSX only thing, because the animation I was testing with (similar to the one in the tutorial) played back smoothly on Windows. see bugs 333 and 1178. These should probably be combined. I think Kevin submitted both from me, but 333 is assigned and should be sufficient. Chris Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 10:31 AM, Devin Asay wrote: All, I'm trying to figure out why animations built in the Animation Builder perform so miserably once you've left the AB environment. I've searched the archives and have found several queries on this subject, but no one seems to know the answer. Specifically, if you create an animation in the AB it plays back smoothly as long as you are in that environment. But as soon as you close the Animation Builder window and try to play back the animation using revPlayAnimation, the playback is jerky, jumpy and generally unacceptable. This behavior does not improve when you compile the stack as a standalone executable. So back to my original question: Can animations created in the Animation Builder actually be used in applications, or is the AB just a fun toy to play around with? Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Cross Mac Platform Text Editing
Rob, step 1: get a real text editor. TextEdit and SimpleText are toys. Instead use Emacs, BBEdit, SubethaEdit, XCode, ... something -- Alex Rice | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revGoURL and https://
however, if I try to launch an https:// address, the browser never launches. It works fine for me using Safari as default browser... OS 10.2.8 Rev 2.1.2 Jim -- James H. MacConnell Consensus Technology http://www.consensustech.com ** ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
Hi Devin, I use it in the brief animation module I present for my course, along with flip-frame style animation/set the loc of style animation, and the really old, clunkier-still, creditmaker that makes scrolling credits. But, no, I haven't really had much success with it (the Animation Builder) either. Clunky playback. As you say, fine within the builder itself but later playback seems awful. Changing FPS seems not to help. But we're using Macs (OS 9). HTH, Judy On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Devin Asay wrote: Thanks for the replies. I tried those things; adjusting frames per second doesn't smooth things out, setting 'alwaysBuffer' to true or false has no effect. Bottom line is that animations play smoothly enough in the Animation Builder, but once you're out of it, playing back the animation with revPlayAnimation, performance is jumpy and jerky. I'm on a Dual 2 GHz G5 running Panther and Rev 2.1.2. But I have seen this same behavior on all Macs I've tried, running OS 9 and X and dating back to Rev 1.X. Has anyone successfully used these animations? Does it work better under Windows? Devin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
Okay, I got my hands on a Windows machine running Rev 2.1 under Win 2000. The animations run reasonably well outside of the Animation Builder, so this appears to be a Mac (PPC?) issue. Can anyone else confirm that this works okay under Windows? Devin On Feb 20, 2004, at 9:31 AM, Devin Asay wrote: All, I'm trying to figure out why animations built in the Animation Builder perform so miserably once you've left the AB environment. I've searched the archives and have found several queries on this subject, but no one seems to know the answer. Specifically, if you create an animation in the AB it plays back smoothly as long as you are in that environment. But as soon as you close the Animation Builder window and try to play back the animation using revPlayAnimation, the playback is jerky, jumpy and generally unacceptable. This behavior does not improve when you compile the stack as a standalone executable. So back to my original question: Can animations created in the Animation Builder actually be used in applications, or is the AB just a fun toy to play around with? Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
I had a heck of a time with this and didn't satisfactorily solve it. Every time I opened the stack, the group resized even though I had locked the location. I tried setting the rect of the stack and the rect of the group on preOpenStack just to get the scroll bars to work and it still doesn't work... I have a row of buttons that is wider than the card so I grouped them, resized the group to be within the card rect and locked the location. Some of the buttons have thumbnail pictures on them that reference an external jpeg file. Maybe that's what's confusing the group... I don't know... Jim on 2/20/04 2:04 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: At 10:43 AM +0900 2/20/2004, Doug Lerner wrote: This is still confusing to me. If the location size of the group is the same as the window size then where are controls in the group that you want to scroll and see? Do you place them outside the rectangle of the card? That's right: they're outside the window boundaries, so scrolling brings them into view. (Or they're larger than the window boundaries: for example, if you want to scroll around a large image in a small window, the image will be bigger than the window is.) -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Upper Water Street, Suite 407, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Info Line: 902-823-2477, Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Add own handlers/scripts to default set
What steps must I take in order to add handlers I create to the default/standard library? Kevin ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Multilingual apps (was: Re: Beginners global variable pb)
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:25:25 +0100, Leraillez Benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The basic idea here is that, instead of having a hidden card, you
have sets of custom properties for each card - one set for each
language - to hold the correct text for that card.
Ok but if I need to change texts because my translations are incorrect or
if I add a new language, in a table I just add a column containing the texts
and the whole stack is translated with a new language or I just import a tab
separated new version and the errors are all corrected without having to go
thru every card and finding the field properties by hand. Am I right?
Yes, I think you have a point there. I agree that if one is to have texts
in other languages, chances are that there will be errors, and/or the whole
set of texts will have to be created by a non-programmer. A real example I
have is for an educational application written with English in mind having
to be used in a Welsh-speaking environment. I'm not a Welsh-speaker, so I
need to be able to give my list of original texts to an outside person as a
text file, and get back a line-by-line translation in Welsh. I then need a
rapid and tidy way of getting the Welsh text back into my application. IMHO
I could only get all this data into Custom Property sets either by placing
all the text strings by hand in many different objects and cards or by
writing a kind of special interpreter that would take the text file and
manipulate it appropriately according to the exact structure and use of all
the custom props; either option seems a convoluted way to go about things -
but YMMV. My own preferred option is to go for a simplified manual approach
where every string that needs to be changed according to language is set in
one particular handler ('setUpParameters'), and I simply read the Welsh (or
whatever) text file into a text editor and paste each line directly into
the Transcript code, all in one concentrated place in the app. This is
crude but in fact works rather well.
Just my 2 eurocents
Graham
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Re: Scrolling a Card?
On 2/20/04 12:53 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: I had a heck of a time with this and didn't satisfactorily solve it. Every time I opened the stack, the group resized even though I had locked the location. I helped someone with a similar problem once, and it turned out he hadn't really locked the group. He'd locked the objects inside the group. Make sure you have selected the actual group itself and set its lockloc to true. Then save the stack so the property setting will stick. With a properly-locked group, I have never seen a failure. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
Devin, Did you see my reply? This is a known issue in bugzilla, and it is a Mac problem. Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Okay, I got my hands on a Windows machine running Rev 2.1 under Win 2000. The animations run reasonably well outside of the Animation Builder, so this appears to be a Mac (PPC?) issue. Can anyone else confirm that this works okay under Windows? Devin On Feb 20, 2004, at 9:31 AM, Devin Asay wrote: All, I'm trying to figure out why animations built in the Animation Builder perform so miserably once you've left the AB environment. I've searched the archives and have found several queries on this subject, but no one seems to know the answer. Specifically, if you create an animation in the AB it plays back smoothly as long as you are in that environment. But as soon as you close the Animation Builder window and try to play back the animation using revPlayAnimation, the playback is jerky, jumpy and generally unacceptable. This behavior does not improve when you compile the stack as a standalone executable. So back to my original question: Can animations created in the Animation Builder actually be used in applications, or is the AB just a fun toy to play around with? Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Panther upgrade wrecks stack bindings
At 3:40 PM -0500 2/20/2004, Jim Lyons wrote: I am not a happy camper today. After upgrading to Panther last night, and being disappointed by a number of other OT things, now double-clicking my stacks won't launch my latest version (2.1.2) of Revolution. (Dragging them to the Rev icon or [Jim tried various things] Can any fellow mac types out there help me straighten this mess out? Thanks... Try this: 1. Pick a stack, any stack, then select it and choose Get Info. 2. In the Open With section of the Get Info window, choose Other from the popup menu and locate 2.1.2. 3. Click the Change All button below the popup menu. This has worked for me to straighten OS X's confused mind out. ;-) -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Panther upgrade wrecks stack bindings
did u try selecting a .rev file, invoking the info palette (apple-I), selecting Revolution 2.1.2 under open with and making sure you pressed the Change All... button as well? On Feb 20, 2004, at 9:40 PM, Jim Lyons wrote: I am not a happy camper today. After upgrading to Panther last night, and being disappointed by a number of other OT things, now double-clicking my stacks won't launch my latest version (2.1.2) of Revolution. (Dragging them to the Rev icon or opening from Rev still works fine.) After the upgrade, they launched the 2.0 version I still had in the applications folder instead. I tried resaving a stack under the new version, but double-clicking that stack still launched the old version. So I put the old version in the trash and tried it again. This time I got an unexpected error dialog and no launch at all. Then I tried control-clicking a stack and choosing Revolution 2.1 from the Open With... menu; that worked, so I quit and tried double-clicking again. Now it wants to start up the OS9 environment and launch the fat version of 2.1! I restarted the system hoping that would straighten things out. Well, now a few stacks have the normal Rev icon and do open 2.1 -- all of them are downloaded stacks. All the stacks I made and saved with 2.1 (and a few other downloaded stacks) now have the fat icon and they want to run MacOSFat version under Classic when double-clicked. Argh!!! Can any fellow mac types out there help me straighten this mess out? Thanks... Jim Lyons 8^( ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Panther upgrade wrecks stack bindings
Hi Jim, I don't know yet about Panther, but you can try this (it works with Jaguar) : select a stack which extension is rev open the contextual menu (control-click) select get info expand open with select the Rev app you want to open with click Change all button Hope it helps. Regards. Thierry. On Friday, Feb 20, 2004, at 21:40 Europe/Paris, Jim Lyons wrote: I am not a happy camper today. After upgrading to Panther last night, and being disappointed by a number of other OT things, now double-clicking my stacks won't launch my latest version (2.1.2) of Revolution. (Dragging them to the Rev icon or opening from Rev still works fine.) After the upgrade, they launched the 2.0 version I still had in the applications folder instead. I tried resaving a stack under the new version, but double-clicking that stack still launched the old version. So I put the old version in the trash and tried it again. This time I got an unexpected error dialog and no launch at all. Then I tried control-clicking a stack and choosing Revolution 2.1 from the Open With... menu; that worked, so I quit and tried double-clicking again. Now it wants to start up the OS9 environment and launch the fat version of 2.1! I restarted the system hoping that would straighten things out. Well, now a few stacks have the normal Rev icon and do open 2.1 -- all of them are downloaded stacks. All the stacks I made and saved with 2.1 (and a few other downloaded stacks) now have the fat icon and they want to run MacOSFat version under Classic when double-clicked. Argh!!! Can any fellow mac types out there help me straighten this mess out? Thanks... Jim Lyons 8^( ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
Howdy, I've had the scrolling working since Ken ray posted the steps. Now I want to simulate a grab (OH, do I ever wish Rev had a 'grab with message within rect') which scrolls the group, including the scrollbars to follow it, of course. It's quite convoluted, because it needs to: 1) Work within scroll bounds (4 scroll coordinates). 2) Work backwards from a normal grab routine because of the way the scroll works. 3) Switch cursors. 4) Work only while the mouse is down. Where might a set of map-grabbing routines be which might help (maps are usually bigger than the window)? Has anyone done what I'm talking about? I've been fiddling with it for hours and can't quite get it. Something is always wrong, either in my max/min routine, or the cursor offset. My pore ole brain's in a twist. Maybe there's an easier way I don't know about. TIA, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Panther upgrade wrecks stack bindings
Just about two minutes ago I wrote: I am not a happy camper today. After upgrading to Panther last night, and being disappointed by a number of other OT things, now double-clicking my stacks won't launch my latest version (2.1.2) of Revolution. (Dragging them to the Rev icon or opening from Rev still works fine.) After the upgrade, they launched the 2.0 version I still had in the applications folder instead. I tried resaving a stack under the new version, but double-clicking that stack still launched the old version. So I put the old version in the trash and tried it again. This time I got an unexpected error dialog and no launch at all. Then I tried control-clicking a stack and choosing Revolution 2.1 from the Open With... menu; that worked, so I quit and tried double-clicking again. Now it wants to start up the OS9 environment and launch the fat version of 2.1! I restarted the system hoping that would straighten things out. Well, now a few stacks have the normal Rev icon and do open 2.1 -- all of them are downloaded stacks. All the stacks I made and saved with 2.1 (and a few other downloaded stacks) now have the fat icon and they want to run MacOSFat version under Classic when double-clicked. Argh!!! How many times have you found the answer right after posting the question? This is more than once for me... Anyway, the solution was to go to one of the stacks with the fat icon, do Get Info and change the Open With... selector to Revolution, and then click the Change All button. Even though the icons remained fat, double-clicking now launches my old friend Rev 2.1 under OS X. After restarting, the icons resumed their normal appearance. Whew! Hope this saves someone else some grief... Jim Lyons ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Panther upgrade wrecks stack bindings
Select one of the incorrectly launching stacks in the Finder, and press Apple-I to get the info panel up. Under 'Open with:' you should be able to choose Rev 2.1.2 as the default app for that file. Then click on 'Change All' and after a dialog box (Do you really want to do this?) all your stacks should now open in 2.1.2. You can do the same for other file types, e.g. forcing all tiffs to open in Photoshop. Ian On 20 Feb 2004, at 20:40, Jim Lyons wrote: I am not a happy camper today. After upgrading to Panther last night, and being disappointed by a number of other OT things, now double-clicking my stacks won't launch my latest version (2.1.2) of Revolution. (Dragging them to the Rev icon or opening from Rev still works fine.) After the upgrade, they launched the 2.0 version I still had in the applications folder instead. I tried resaving a stack under the new version, but double-clicking that stack still launched the old version. So I put the old version in the trash and tried it again. This time I got an unexpected error dialog and no launch at all. Then I tried control-clicking a stack and choosing Revolution 2.1 from the Open With... menu; that worked, so I quit and tried double-clicking again. Now it wants to start up the OS9 environment and launch the fat version of 2.1! I restarted the system hoping that would straighten things out. Well, now a few stacks have the normal Rev icon and do open 2.1 -- all of them are downloaded stacks. All the stacks I made and saved with 2.1 (and a few other downloaded stacks) now have the fat icon and they want to run MacOSFat version under Classic when double-clicked. Argh!!! Can any fellow mac types out there help me straighten this mess out? Thanks... Jim Lyons 8^( ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Add own handlers/scripts to default set
On Friday, February 20, 2004, at 12:07 PM, Kevin wrote: What steps must I take in order to add handlers I create to the default/standard library? On approach (mentioned recently, I think by Jeanne) is to use a trivial plugin that adds a library or adds a backscript. Look at the plugin options and you will see that you can assign it to run at start and even be invisible. For all I know there might be a plugin out there that looks for such libraries in a special folder or looks at its list and does that. There are always little things I use all the time and I'm always having to add them to a stack I'm working on. It would be nice to add them to Dar's World. I can use this, too. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Cross Mac Platform Text Editing
Is there a recommended cross Mac platform text editor? A Revolution field Once again you provide an excellent solution, Richard! Works like a charm, and is now incorporated into the SDB Tools plugin that will be the focal point of the next release of Serendipity Library. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Com ports
Howdy, I didn't get an answer before, so I'm still hoping... How can I query to find out if a Com port has a modem? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Com ports
Just guessing, but if you send at to the port and get back an ok that should indicate you have a modem attached... At 03:45 PM 2/20/2004, you wrote: Howdy, I didn't get an answer before, so I'm still hoping... How can I query to find out if a Com port has a modem? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
Okay, my bad. I've got to finally bite the bullet and establish my bugzilla account. Would've saved myself a ton o' time. Thanks, Chris Devin On Feb 20, 2004, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Mitchell wrote: Did you see my reply? This is a known issue in bugzilla, and it is a Mac problem. Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
Hi Ken, Howdy, I've had the scrolling working since Ken ray posted the steps. Now I want to simulate a grab (OH, do I ever wish Rev had a 'grab with message within rect') which scrolls the group, including the scrollbars to follow it, of course. It's quite convoluted, because it needs to: 1) Work within scroll bounds (4 scroll coordinates). 2) Work backwards from a normal grab routine because of the way the scroll works. 3) Switch cursors. 4) Work only while the mouse is down. Where might a set of map-grabbing routines be which might help (maps are usually bigger than the window)? Has anyone done what I'm talking about? I've been fiddling with it for hours and can't quite get it. Something is always wrong, either in my max/min routine, or the cursor offset. My pore ole brain's in a twist. Maybe there's an easier way I don't know about. Try this in the group script. I might cover item 2, 4 and (with two more lines in mousedown ;-) 3 of your wishlist. I am not sure if i understand item 1, but this one will get you started... local darfziehen, x1, y1 ## darfziehen = german for maydrag on mousedown put true into darfziehen put the hScroll of group xxx + the mouseH into x1 put the vScroll of group xxx + the mouseV into y1 end mousedown on mouseup put empty into darfziehen end mouseup on mouserelease mouseup end mouserelease on mousemove x,y if darfziehen = empty then exit mousemove set the hScroll of group xxx to x1 - x set the vScroll of group xxx to y1 - y end mousemove Hope that helps... TIA, Ken N. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revcopyfile: preserve file modification date/time
What is the best way to preserve file modification date/time when copied to a Windows 2000 server? I need to preserve the modification date when a file is copied from a user's local MacOSX (10.2.x) to a Windows 2000 server. By default, revcopyfile does not preserve the mod date. The copy of the file has a mod date/time of when it was copied. I found a work-around by using CpMac -p, and it worked great for a while, preserving the mod date/time, but then for some reason, it started making the copied file's mod date/time be when it was copied. And then it started working fine again, and now it's back to misbehaving. So I tried using ditto -rsrcFork (ditto --rsrc in Panther), which works great in Panther, but in Jaguar I get a file name too long on files whose name is longer than 8 characters (violating 8.3). Thanks in advance, James ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
Howdy, Can someone please show me how to reverse this line, i.e., make it progress instead of regress? put max(gMinHscroll,min(gMaxHscroll,x-gOffsetH)) into gXmove TIA, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
I also think this is an OSX only thing, It's generic to all Mac OS version, AFAIK. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multilingual apps (was: Re: Beginners global variable pb)
My own preferred option is to go for a simplified manual approach
where every string that needs to be changed according to language is
set in one particular handler ('setUpParameters'), and I simply read
the Welsh (or whatever) text file into a text editor and paste each
line directly into the Transcript code, all in one concentrated
place in the app. This is crude but in fact works rather well.
Graham, et al:
My approach is to load the entire text file into a library field when
changing languages, and to load that text field into a library local
variable when the library is put in use.
Each one-line message in the file is referenced as a constant, eg:
constant sdbFileMenu=1
constant sdbEditMenu=2
constant sdbIOError=3
constant sdbQuitMenuItem=4
constant sdbOKTranslated=113
Scripts retrieve the messages via a function call: sdbMessage, along
the lines of
function sdbMessage(messageLineNumber)
local sdbMessages
return line messageLineNumber of sdbMessages
end sdbMessage
So my handlers look something like:
on preOpenStack
set the name of button 1 of group Stack Menubar to sdbMessage(sdbFileMenu)
set the text of button 1 of group Stack Menubar to
sdbMessage(sdbQuitMenuItem)
end preOpenStack
on menuPick thePick
put sdbMessage(sdbQuitMenuItem) into quitMe
switch thePick
case quitMe
quit
break
end switch
end menuPick
on displayError errorDetail
beep
answer error sdbMessage(sdbIOError):errorDetail with
sdbMessage(sdbOKTranslated)
exit to top
end display error
So handler text is never changed and the message is resolved AT
RUNTIME either when a new message file is loaded into the library or
at startup when necessary (eg: for standalones).
With the exception of the fact that each constant must be declared in
every script that references it, I find this approach effective
straightforward.
AND, as I alluded to above, since no script changes need occur, your
application can be distributed in one version supporting any
(single-byte character) language without modificationincluding
languages not supported in the original distribution. Viola! your
application can be translated by any user with a text editor.
There are examples of this in virtually all components of Serendipity
Library http://www.oenolog.net/ftp/serendipity_downloader.htm.
--
Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company
http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm
And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee.
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Re: Scrolling a Card?
Klaus, Could you please explain under what circumstances this handler would require to be explicitly declared? This seems like something implicit to the engine, and if not handled reliably then how many other things need to be re-defined? Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 4:17 PM, Klaus Major wrote: on mouserelease mouseup end mouserelease ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
On Friday, February 20, 2004, at 04:39 PM, Ken Norris wrote: put max(gMinHscroll,min(gMaxHscroll,x-gOffsetH)) into gXmove I can only guess what you are doing. My guess: put max(gMinHscroll,min(gMaxHscroll, -(x-gOffsetH) )) into gXmove Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Add own handlers/scripts to default set
What steps must I take in order to add handlers I create to the default/standard library? Hi Kevin, It depends... If your handlers provide additional functionality to the Developer's environment, placing them in the script of a stack and placing that stack in the Revolution Plugin folder might do. If your handlers are called during runtime by one or more standalones and/or stacks, Revolution expects you to create a library stack of your own, place your handlers in that stack's script, and add logic to the other stacks that use your library to issue a startup command to start using the library. As an additional option, one can place the handlers in the script of a control, and then place that script in the frontStacks or backStacks. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revcopyfile: preserve file modification date/time
What is the best way to preserve file modification date/time when copied to a Windows 2000 server? Hi James, The detailed version of the files function returns, among other things, the modification dates for each file in the defaultFolder. So one needs to: A. Save the defaultFolder if it needs restoration B Set the defaultFolder to the folder containing the file C. Get the detailed files D. Parse the list to find the line for the file* E. Get the date as item 5 of that line F. Restore original defaultFolder, if necessary *Note in step D that the file's name is returned URL-encoded. Now you have the modification date. How you get the Windows server to retain or reset that date is beyond my scope of experience. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: save dialogue stuck
Regarding the possible causes of my problem Marian kindly pointed out, no, I don't use the App Browser here. I opened it once when I began to work on the stack under Rev to verify the composition of the background, and it took what felt like minutes to display the innards finally. I thought it might have to do with the number of cards. Since then, I've saved myself the time and nerves and abstain from taking recourse to the App Browser with this particular project. As to the question of the save being only slow or really hung, it would suppose it has finished, at least judging from the change of of cursor and the last line displayed in the window. Fritz On Feb 21, 2004, at 0:05 AM, Marian Petrides wrote: I have not encountered this problem, but I have found that in a stack with LOTS of objects on each card if I have the application browser open it takes a very long time for me to be able to go from the arrow selection cursor (select a text field to unlock it) to the grabber hand (to edit the text in the field). If I close the Application Browser window, poof things go back to their normal speedy pace. Is the App Browser window open when you try to save? Have you tried closing it? Maybe that will speed things up--assuming that the save isn't actually hung, just excrutiatingly slow. M On Feb 20, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote: What irritates me a little bit is that the Save ... screen gets quite often stuck. The cursor turns into a hand and no clicking helps to remove the window. I have to save again. Both screens will overlap for some time and then disappear as expected. What could be the reason for this annoying behaviour? How could it be avoided? Thanks in advance. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
simple local variable question
Howdy, I'm declaring some local variables at the top of a card script that I need to use in several handlers... here is a simplified recipe question that will help me understand why I'm not able to access the values I'm assigning to them: --card script begins here local rotAngle put 20 into rotAngle on mouseUp answer rotAngle end mouseUp -- My question is, why does this not put up an answer dialog with 20 in it? the dialog that comes up is empty. Thanks, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: save dialogue stuck
On 2/20/04 6:48 PM, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote: As to the question of the save being only slow or really hung, it would suppose it has finished, at least judging from the change of of cursor and the last line displayed in the window. You mentioned this was a fairly large stack, as Rev goes. 5,500 cards is pretty much the limit in Rev. A stack this size will normally take a while to save. I've also noticed that sometimes you have to move the cursor outside the window and back again before it will redraw, so the shape you see may not always tell you what the actual state is. Try moving the mouse to check, before resorting to a second save. Since this is an imported HC stack, there may be other problems too. It is very important to compact the stack in HC at least twice in a row before importing it to Revolution, especially one this large. If the stack was not thoroughly compacted before import, there could be lots of extraneous junk in there that is slowing down the save process in Rev. This seems a likely culprit to me. I know you've already put a lot of work into this, so you may not want to go back and do it all over. If you're feeling ambitious though, you could thoroughly compact in HC, open the stack in Rev, change its name temporarily (so that you can open your original import at the same time) and then copy/paste scripts from the older copy into the new one. See if it saves faster. Finally, try setting the HCAddressing property to false. You don't need it in Rev. I don't really think this will make all that much difference, but I usually do it anyway. It does affect some aspects of stack behavior sometimes, and you don't need it to be true when working in Revolution. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revcopyfile: preserve file modification date/time
Thanks for all the help. The folder where the file is has thousands of files, and getting files details is just way too slow. However, I think I've found a work-around. On http://www.macosxhints.com, I found a reference to a terminal command called SetFile. It's available here (/Developer/Tools/SetFile) after you install Developer Tools. Try a man SetFile at the Terminal for more info. To change the modification date of a file just do this: SetFile -m 8/4/2001 16:13 myFile To change the creation date of a file just do this: SetFile -d 8/4/2001 16:13 myFile I just tested this and I can change the modification date/time for a file on a Windows 2000 Server where I do not have admin privileges, so this might do the trick. I won't know for certain until I test it on a user's machine. Thanks again for the advice...James On Feb 20, 2004, at 7:57 PM, Christopher Mitchell wrote: I would almost suggest that saving an internal modification timestamp and retrieving it as necessary might be easier than forcing any given system to hack its own awareness of the last modification time of a file. I would definitely be interested in hearing how to set Windows mod dates though if it is possible. Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 5:26 PM, Rob Cozens wrote: What is the best way to preserve file modification date/time when copied to a Windows 2000 server? Hi James, The detailed version of the files function returns, among other things, the modification dates for each file in the defaultFolder. So one needs to: A. Save the defaultFolder if it needs restoration B Set the defaultFolder to the folder containing the file C. Get the detailed files D. Parse the list to find the line for the file* E. Get the date as item 5 of that line F. Restore original defaultFolder, if necessary *Note in step D that the file's name is returned URL-encoded. Now you have the modification date. How you get the Windows server to retain or reset that date is beyond my scope of experience. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Immediate/Compile Time Execution for USING library STACKS
Kevin, You might want to check out the scriptLimits function. You can't run outside scripts longer than 10 lines from a standalone. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: simple local variable question
However, that is contrary to the documentation for the local command: You create a script local variable by using the local command in a script, outside any handlers in the script. (pasted from transcript dictionary) So I'm still not convinced that it must be in a handler, or if so then the documentation is misleading. Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Phil Davis wrote: - Original Message - From: Christopher Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:55 PM Subject: simple local variable question Howdy, I'm declaring some local variables at the top of a card script that I need to use in several handlers... here is a simplified recipe question that will help me understand why I'm not able to access the values I'm assigning to them: --card script begins here local rotAngle put 20 into rotAngle on mouseUp answer rotAngle end mouseUp -- My question is, why does this not put up an answer dialog with 20 in it? the dialog that comes up is empty. It comes up empty because nothing can ever cause 'rotAngle' to be set. Any executable code not inside a handler can never be executed. Phil Davis Thanks, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: simple local variable question
Dar, This seems to have helped. Evidently although the script local variables are declared outside handlers, the put assignment is not evaluated so they must be initialized in the declaration if they need initial values. If they were all dynamic values perhaps declaring at the top then immediately following with a set of initialization assignments in cardOpen. Thanks very much. Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 7:21 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Friday, February 20, 2004, at 05:55 PM, Christopher Mitchell wrote: --card script begins here local rotAngle put 20 into rotAngle on mouseUp answer rotAngle end mouseUp -- Does this help? --card script begins here local rotAngle = 20 on mouseUp answer rotAngle end mouseUp -- See About... the structure of a script in the doc. My question is, why does this not put up an answer dialog with 20 in it? the dialog that comes up is empty. Another question might be why doesn't the compiler complain. I have gotten the impression is that this is for some legacy code in which people hide data in scripts for some reason. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: simple local variable question
er, or openCard rather... On Feb 21, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Christopher Mitchell wrote: Dar, This seems to have helped. Evidently although the script local variables are declared outside handlers, the put assignment is not evaluated so they must be initialized in the declaration if they need initial values. If they were all dynamic values perhaps declaring at the top then immediately following with a set of initialization assignments in cardOpen. Thanks very much. Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 7:21 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Friday, February 20, 2004, at 05:55 PM, Christopher Mitchell wrote: --card script begins here local rotAngle put 20 into rotAngle on mouseUp answer rotAngle end mouseUp -- Does this help? --card script begins here local rotAngle = 20 on mouseUp answer rotAngle end mouseUp -- See About... the structure of a script in the doc. My question is, why does this not put up an answer dialog with 20 in it? the dialog that comes up is empty. Another question might be why doesn't the compiler complain. I have gotten the impression is that this is for some legacy code in which people hide data in scripts for some reason. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: simple local variable question
Sorry for the confusion. You're absolutely correct about being able to declare a local variable outside any handlers. I was mentally segregating declarative code statements... local rotAngle ... into a different category than non-declarative (imperative?) code statements, which have no way (AFAIK) of being executed apart from a handler... put 20 into rotAngle I could be wrong, but that's my understanding. My motto: When in doubt, test! Test results are often misunderstood, but they never lie! :o) Phil Davis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Mitchell Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:35 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: simple local variable question However, that is contrary to the documentation for the local command: You create a script local variable by using the local command in a script, outside any handlers in the script. (pasted from transcript dictionary) So I'm still not convinced that it must be in a handler, or if so then the documentation is misleading. Yours, Chris On Feb 20, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Phil Davis wrote: - Original Message - From: Christopher Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:55 PM Subject: simple local variable question Howdy, I'm declaring some local variables at the top of a card script that I need to use in several handlers... here is a simplified recipe question that will help me understand why I'm not able to access the values I'm assigning to them: --card script begins here local rotAngle put 20 into rotAngle on mouseUp answer rotAngle end mouseUp -- My question is, why does this not put up an answer dialog with 20 in it? the dialog that comes up is empty. It comes up empty because nothing can ever cause 'rotAngle' to be set. Any executable code not inside a handler can never be executed. Phil Davis Thanks, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
Hi Klaus, Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:17:45 +0100 From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scrolling a Card? Try this in the group script. I might cover item 2, 4 and (with two more lines in mousedown ;-) 3 of your wishlist. I am not sure if i understand item 1, but this one will get you started... local darfziehen, x1, y1 ## darfziehen = german for maydrag :-) I wonder what the root for that is. Anyway, danke schoen. I'll see if I can plug some of it into the max/min bounding handler. I have to keep the scroll in bounds of the hScroll/vScroll limits because of the scrollbars. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
On Saturday, February 21, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Ken Norris wrote: Something is causing it to snap to the topleft of the scroll when I start to move it, which it wasn't doing when it was going the wrong way. Will take a little more study to figure out why. I'm having trouble guessing what you are doing. Are you adjusting the location of a group with the card group? Are you setting the scroll on the card group? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
