Re: Visibility Problem in Windows XP

[Jim Ault]

Aren't there some example fonts stacks on the user area of goRev?
This is not my area at all, but it would seem that downloading something
that works would be a good test.

Also, you might want to build a little test loop that gave you info about
each char in the field, such as

repeat with x = 1 to the number of chars in fld targ
   get (x) && char x of fld targ
   get it && chartonum(char x of fld targ)
   get it && the font of char x of targ
   get it && the fontsize of char x of targ
   get it && the fontcolor of char x of targ

   put it into line x of charDisplay
end repeat

put "-" & the textfont of fld targ & " ---field text font" & cr before
charDisplay
put the fontnames & cr before charDisplay

put charDisplay into the msg

You might be a little surprised at the listing, but perhaps not.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 1/29/07 9:49 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Charles Szasz wrote:
>> I reported this problem related to fonts not showing up in Windows
>> builds before. And it came back after I recreated my original stack by
>> copying and pasting. I downloaded a Windows version of Revolution and
>> began to fiddle around with the fonts that were not showing up. The
>> problem is definitely related to the font that is being used. In my case
>> I used Arial, which does not work well even with the Windows version of
>> Rev! Aria was highly recommended as one of the fonts you could use on
>> both Windows and the Mac.
>> 
> 
> I've been waiting to see if anyone has anything to add about this, but I
> guess not. I suspect the reason is that no one has seen it (I never
> have.) I regularly use Ariel in stacks on Windows without any problem,
> so I'm not sure why you aren't seeing a display. Does your field text
> contain high-ascii characters? Maybe the Ariel font doesn't contain the
> characters you're using; each font is a little different. That's about
> all I can think of. Ariel does fine on Windows for me. I've never seen a
> centering problem either.
> 
> As an experiment, try making a new stack with a single field and no
> scripts. Type some words in the field and make the field's textfont
> Ariel. Now open it in Windows. Does it display there? If so, then the
> problem is something in your particular stack rather than in the field
> or font.


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Rev and Zlib compression

[Martin Blackman]

I'd like to be able to open files compressed using zlib ( www.zlib.net
), but it seems the revzip library doesn't handle this file type. Has
anyone ever worked with zlib in Rev ?

Maybe I have to knuckle down and learn how to work with DLL's as there
is one provided on the site

regards
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Package tools

[Michael D.]

Hi everyone,
I was looking for an option to cexe executable compressor and ran across this 
site, some nice tools. The builder Packed one of my 2.5meg exe's down to 990k.

http://www.gdgsoft.com/

Michael
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In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

[Mark Powell]

Here is a distillation of my problem.  From my main stack, I call a
stack with 

   modal stack "MyAnswerDialog"

On that modal stack, there is an OK button with the script ending with

   close this stack

In the development environment, the modal is closed as expected and you
return to the main stack.  As an executable, clicking the OK button
quits the application (i.e. OK closes both main and modal stacks).  I am
using Rev 2.7.2.   Am I doing something wrong?  I could have sworn this
has worked in the past.

Mark
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Re: Fonts on Windows

[Mark Schonewille]

Charles,

Just a guess, but make sure to set the formatForPrinting of your  
stacks and fields to false when you don't print :-)


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Op 30-jan-2007, om 5:42 heeft Charles Szasz het volgende geschreven:

I reported this problem related to fonts not showing up in Windows  
builds before. And it came back after I recreated my original stack  
by copying and pasting. I downloaded a Windows version of  
Revolution and began to fiddle around with the fonts that were not  
showing up. The problem is definitely related to the font that is  
being used. In my case I used Arial, which does not work well even  
with the Windows version of Rev! Aria was highly recommended as one  
of the fonts you could use on both Windows and the Mac.


So far I found that the Tahoma  font works better but it has  
problems with formating. If you format for center alignment, it  
will not be in the center. i have not had the opportunity to check  
the other Window fonts, which I will do tomorrow.


My first question then is what Windows XP fonts do Rev Windows  
developers used? My second question: Has the "owner's font" problem  
associated with formating (bold, etc) been corrected? I find it  
unusual that the Rev Manual only gives a fleeing mention of owner's  
fonts. I did not know about owner's font until I used the text menu  
in the menu bar. I always used the inspector, which does not list it.


I would greatly appreciate any information on this subject!!



Charles Szasz
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Re: Rev and Zlib compression

[jbv]

Martin ,

I put my nose into that issue a couple of years ago as I was working on
a pdf library. I got an answer from Rev support featuring details about
which parameters are used in the Rev implementation of zlib, which
AFAIR is significantly different from what is used in pdf files.
I too had the project to implement zlib as an external, but had to postpone
that project endlessly, being somewhat more than busy for the last
couple of years...
If you are interested, I'll try to find the time to dig my archives and
forward these infos to you off-list...

JB

> I'd like to be able to open files compressed using zlib ( www.zlib.net
> ), but it seems the revzip library doesn't handle this file type. Has
> anyone ever worked with zlib in Rev ?
>
> Maybe I have to knuckle down and learn how to work with DLL's as there
> is one provided on the site
>
> regards
> Martin Blackman

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Firefox search plugin for this list on GMane

[Mark Schonewille]

Hello,

I have put a Firefox search plugin on the Economy-x-Talk website,  
which searches the archives of this list on GMane. You can obtain it  
by going to the Developers section of the Economy-x-Talk homepage. At  
the bottom of the page, you will find the plugin.


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Re: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Powell wrote:


Here is a distillation of my problem.  From my main stack, I call a
stack with 


   modal stack "MyAnswerDialog"

On that modal stack, there is an OK button with the script ending with

   close this stack


It ends with that -- what comes before it?


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Re: Rev and Zlib compression

[Martin Blackman]

Thanks JBV I should have done a gmane search, from what I gather there
maybe a couple of developers with existing solutions. So don't trouble
yourself there.

regds
Martin

On 30/01/07, jbv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Martin ,

I put my nose into that issue a couple of years ago as I was working on
a pdf library. I got an answer from Rev support featuring details about
which parameters are used in the Rev implementation of zlib, which
AFAIR is significantly different from what is used in pdf files.
I too had the project to implement zlib as an external, but had to postpone
that project endlessly, being somewhat more than busy for the last
couple of years...
If you are interested, I'll try to find the time to dig my archives and
forward these infos to you off-list...

JB

> I'd like to be able to open files compressed using zlib ( www.zlib.net
> ), but it seems the revzip library doesn't handle this file type. Has
> anyone ever worked with zlib in Rev ?
>
> Maybe I have to knuckle down and learn how to work with DLL's as there
> is one provided on the site
>
> regards
> Martin Blackman

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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

[Andre Garzia]

Scott,

I assume you have the Developers Tools installed on your mac. There's  
an application called PackageMaker that is bundled with it. It allows  
you to build .pkg files with all the options you want including scripts.


a quote:

"You can bundle executable files within your package and  
Installer.app will run these executables during the install.  
Generally these files will be shell scripts."


Just launch it and look into the help file, everything is there!!!

Cheers
andre



On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Scott,

the installer must be a .pkg? can't you build a stack that is an  
installer and will execute the scripts and everything? it might be  
easier...


Andre

On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


This is an off-topic request for anyone who has experience building
installers on the Mac platform that rely on scripts.  I received a  
request
from a client to build installers that need to do some condition  
checking
and be editable on the client's end, via text-editing a script or  
similar.
DMG drag-install is not an option due to file-checking needs, and  
packages

that charge per seat/year usage fees are not acceptable.

I came across a package called MacInstallerBuilder which looks  
promising,
but am wondering if any folks around here have other experience  
and/or

suggestions.  Please contact off-list.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: Physical Screen Size

[Luis]

Found this under the 'print' entry in the Rev Dictionary:

'The pageRect is the rectangle into which the card is printed, and 
consists of four integers separated by commas: the left, top, right, and 
bottom edges of the printed card, in points. (There are 72 points to an 
inch.) The card is scaled to fit the specified pageRect. If you don't 
specify a pageRect, the card's size depends on the printScale property.'


Might help in calibrating the size.

Cheers,

Luis.



Luis wrote:
Hmmm, ok. What you could then do is open a dialogue box asking for 
dimensions (17 inch, 19 inch, etc), resolution, type (CRT, LCD or 
Plasma) and dpi. If the dpi is unknown by the user you could try to 
default to the most common dpi for that 'type' of monitor.


Cheers,

Luis.


Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Luis,

Yup, my main monitor is of the brand "unknown".

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Op 19-jan-2007, om 17:00 heeft Luis het volgende geschreven:


Hiya,

If you can determine the monitor type you could probe a database of 
configurations/resolution/dpi settings etc and then calculate the 
image size (using its coordinates) based on this information.
I haven't looked into this but I reckon OSX and WXP have these in the 
system somewhere (so they can 'plug and play').



Cheers,

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Re: Infinity Char on Windows

[Devin Asay]

On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Mark Greenberg wrote:

I am trying to port my math stacks from Mac to Windows.  Some of  
the stacks use the infinity character (like a sideways 8), but in  
Windows it displays as a box instead.  Does anyone know how I might  
make that display properly in Windows?  If the solution involves  
Unicode, be explicit because I've never tried to make Unicode work  
for me in Rev.


Using html entities is a reliable way to preserve symbols and special  
characters cross platform. Try this:


set the htmlText of fld "myMathFld" to ""

Of course, you'd have to include whatever other characters were  
needed in the html string.


Devin

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Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

[Devin Asay]

Mark,
On Jan 30, 2007, at 4:46 AM, Mark Powell wrote:


Here is a distillation of my problem.  From my main stack, I call a
stack with

   modal stack "MyAnswerDialog"

On that modal stack, there is an OK button with the script ending with

   close this stack

In the development environment, the modal is closed as expected and  
you

return to the main stack.  As an executable, clicking the OK button
quits the application (i.e. OK closes both main and modal stacks).   
I am
using Rev 2.7.2.   Am I doing something wrong?  I could have sworn  
this

has worked in the past.


If you use the following, does it still happen in the standalone:

  close stack "MyAnswerDialog"

?

I'm wondering if, for some reason, the closeStack message is being  
sent up the hierarchy when running in standalone mode. In other  
words, maybe "close this stack" is being executed by the mainstack  
(the engine in the standalone.)


Devin

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Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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U3 questions

[Richard Gaskin]

I have a client who wants U3 deployment, and two questions come to mind 
right off the bat:



1.  Where are the U3 docs?
I searched the User Guide and Dictionary for "U3" and came up empty 
except for "u3eject".


Where does one learn more?


2. How does one save files to the U3 drive if it's yanked from the computer?
The example of the only U3 token currently in the dictionary, u3Eject, is:

on u3eject
saveFiles
end u3eject

If the device is removed, how is that possible?


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Re: U3 questions

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Richard,

There is some important information in the "What's New" files that  
come with Revolution.


You handle the u3Eject message in the startUp handler, which is sent  
to your standalone together with a parameter. The parameters are  
described in aforementioned file.


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Op 30-jan-2007, om 18:02 heeft Richard Gaskin het volgende geschreven:

I have a client who wants U3 deployment, and two questions come to  
mind right off the bat:



1.  Where are the U3 docs?
I searched the User Guide and Dictionary for "U3" and came up empty  
except for "u3eject".


Where does one learn more?


2. How does one save files to the U3 drive if it's yanked from the  
computer?
The example of the only U3 token currently in the dictionary,  
u3Eject, is:


on u3eject
saveFiles
end u3eject

If the device is removed, how is that possible?


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Re: U3 questions

[Derek Bump]

Richard Gaskin wrote:
2. How does one save files to the U3 drive if it's yanked from the 
computer?


Short answer:  You can't.  You can only prepare for it.

Long answer:  Users of U3 are instructed over and over again to click 
the "Eject" button within the U3 program.  If they do not, and eject the 
drive anyways, the next time they plug it in they are re-warned of data 
loss.


The best way to handle this type of behavior in my own opinion is to 
employ a "HyperCard" type of mentality... write everything.  In 
HyperCard, the stack would automatically save when the browse tool is 
used.  If you employ the same tactic with your U3 app, even if the stick 
is removed, the data will have already been written.


Obviously this tactic will not work for every type of program, but it 
should work for most.



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Re: U3 questions

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Schonewille wrote:
There is some important information in the "What's New" files that  
come with Revolution.


Thanks.  I did some sleuthing and turned up the PDF with the details:

 /Resources/Examples/U3 Documentation.pdf

You handle the u3Eject message in the startUp handler, which is sent  
to your standalone together with a parameter.


I don't understand.  If I'm responding to the startup message, how does 
one also respond to u3eject within that handler? :\


In practice though think we're okay on that one, since my original hunch 
that u3eject is of limited value seems to be the case.



New question:

It wasn't clear from the docs how I could get my app to auto-launch 
instead of U3's launcher app.


Is there a way to do that?

If I'm required to make my own custom-built drive to do that I may not 
bother with U3 at all, since we also need Mac and Linux support as well 
and the complications of U3 may not be worth it just to get auto-launch 
on one platform.


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$279 Sale Price on Studio

[Steven Axtell]

I got an e-mail indicating that Studio is on sale for $279 until Jan. 31.  When 
I went to purchase it, it was indicated to be $399.  Where do we get the 30% 
discount?

Steve Axtell
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Re: U3 questions

[Derek Bump]

Richard Gaskin wrote:
If I'm required to make my own custom-built drive to do that I may not 
bother with U3 at all, since we also need Mac and Linux support as well 
and the complications of U3 may not be worth it just to get auto-launch 
on one platform.


If you want auto-launch, you'd be better of writing your own Application 
to do it. A program that sits on a Mac, Windows and Linux box that 
constantly polls for the device, and then launches the program when found.


And something to ponder... The only reason I have U3 on my flash drive 
is because I can now develop for it.  Before Rev supported U3, I removed 
it from my flash drive as I saw no benefit from it.  Just my two cents.



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SQLite and multiuser

[Joel Guillod]

The SQLite documentation under topic «File Locking And Concurrency»  
states: «SQLite uses POSIX advisory locks to implement locking on  
Unix. On windows it uses the LockFile(), LockFileEx(), and UnlockFile 
() system calls. SQLite assumes that these system calls all work as  
advertised. If that is not the case, then database corruption can  
result. One should note that POSIX advisory locking is known to be  
buggy or even unimplemented on many NFS implementations (including  
recent versions of Mac OS X) and that there are reports of locking  
problems for network filesystems under windows. Your best defense is  
to not use SQLite for files on a network filesystem.»


The last sentence clearly demonstrates that SQLite files should not  
be used on a network. So, I would be pleased to have advices on how  
to access SQLite database throught network in a multiuser environment.


There is one relatively easy implementation scenario I think about:  
to write a Rev application which works as a SQLite server and to  
which any client Rev application connects to in order to query the  
databases. In such a way only the server is dealing with database  
files and this probably works okay for small network traffic. Any  
other suggestion for a solution would be welcome.


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RE: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

[Mark Powell]

> It ends with that -- what comes before it?

--in main stack, button script is...

on mouseUp
  openLicenseDialog
end mouseUp

--in main stack, stack script is...

on openLicenseDialog
  modal stack "License"
end openLicenseDialog

--in stack "License", button script is...

on mouseUp
  RequestDone
end mouseUp

--in stack "License", stack script is...
on RequestDone
  
  close this stack
end RequestDone

BTW, Devin, I have tried saying specifically 

close stack "License"

but the result is the same.

I should clarify one thing.  In development it works as expected.  In
the standalone model, I am using the altSplash methodology, so the
splash screen is technically the executable, while the main stack
referenced above is an un-compiled stack.

Also, I know there has been a bug in one version of Rev or another of
focus switching out of Rev into another application.  I experience that
with 2.7.2.  I can hack together a small sample of what I am talking
about later today, but any idea beforehand are greatly appreciated.



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Re: Physical Screen Size

[Walton Sumner]

I have a survey instrument which can require interface elements to have
exact physical lengths, especially a "visual analog scale" that is
traditionally 10 cm. Not knowing what the screen settings will be on client
machines, I have for the time being put a button on the first screen of the
survey instrument that allows a survey administrator to drag it's right edge
until it is 2 cm long. Then anything else in the stack that needs an
absolute size can be rescaled accordingly. You can put some constraints on
the assertions, like expecting no more than 100 pixels/2cm and no less than
50 (one real value is 83 on this iMac). So far I've assumed that pixels are
squares, hope that's safe.

As long as the survey instrument resides on a given machine, this is a
one-time, set-and-forget event. The rev program reads instructions
(including VAS lengths) in text files to implement new surveys, so the
client holding the pixels/cm data should not be replaced very often.

It is not at all elegant, but I expect that the obvious variations on this
theme are pretty reliable (eg, "How long is this line?", "Click 3 cm from
the end of this line"), and perhaps less trouble for the user than asking
for several unfamiliar measurements. Still, if there is a transparent way,
I'd like to use it!

To use the info that Luis found, it seems like you would have to assert a
pagerect in a print command, then get the printscale used in printing the
page, then calculate the absolute size of the card on screen. Has anyone
tried that? 

Seems like the simplest thing to do should be to read the diagonal of used
screen space from the hardware, but I do not see a rev command to do that.
Maybe there is a shell command to read the diagonal on some systems, but I
have not found it.

Walton Sumner

> Found this under the 'print' entry in the Rev Dictionary:
> 
> 'The pageRect is the rectangle into which the card is printed, and
> consists of four integers separated by commas: the left, top, right, and
> bottom edges of the printed card, in points. (There are 72 points to an
> inch.) The card is scaled to fit the specified pageRect. If you don't
> specify a pageRect, the card's size depends on the printScale property.'
> 
> Might help in calibrating the size.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Luis.
> 
> 
> 
> Luis wrote:
>> Hmmm, ok. What you could then do is open a dialogue box asking for
>> dimensions (17 inch, 19 inch, etc), resolution, type (CRT, LCD or
>> Plasma) and dpi. If the dpi is unknown by the user you could try to
>> default to the most common dpi for that 'type' of monitor.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Luis.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Schonewille wrote:
>>> Hi Luis,
>>> 
>>> Yup, my main monitor is of the brand "unknown".
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> Download at http://www.salery.biz
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>>> Op 19-jan-2007, om 17:00 heeft Luis het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
 Hiya,
 
 If you can determine the monitor type you could probe a database of
 configurations/resolution/dpi settings etc and then calculate the
 image size (using its coordinates) based on this information.
 I haven't looked into this but I reckon OSX and WXP have these in the
 system somewhere (so they can 'plug and play').
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Luis.

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Re: $279 Sale Price on Studio

[runrev260805]

Did you enter the coupon code  JANSALE3  ?

Cheers,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 19:09)
From:Steven Axtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I got an e-mail indicating that Studio is on sale for $279 until Jan. 31.  
> When I went to purchase it, it was indicated to be $399.  Where do we get 
> the 30% discount?
> 
> Steve Axtell
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Re: SQLite and multiuser

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 30/1/07 8:44 PM, "Joel Guillod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Joel,

> The SQLite documentation under topic «File Locking And Concurrency»
> states: «SQLite uses POSIX advisory locks to implement locking on
> Unix. On windows it uses the LockFile(), LockFileEx(), and UnlockFile
> () system calls. SQLite assumes that these system calls all work as
> advertised. If that is not the case, then database corruption can
> result. One should note that POSIX advisory locking is known to be
> buggy or even unimplemented on many NFS implementations (including
> recent versions of Mac OS X) and that there are reports of locking
> problems for network filesystems under windows. Your best defense is
> to not use SQLite for files on a network filesystem.»

1)

> The last sentence clearly demonstrates that SQLite files should not
> be used on a network.

2)

> So, I would be pleased to have advices on how
> to access SQLite database throught network in a multiuser environment.

See above (1)   :-)

> There is one relatively easy implementation scenario I think about:
> to write a Rev application which works as a SQLite server and to
> which any client Rev application connects to in order to query the
> databases. In such a way only the server is dealing with database
> files and this probably works okay for small network traffic.

I.e. You want invent a bike? :-)
and develop ala-Oracle / ala-mySQL / ala-Valentina Server ?

Yes with some N developer/months/years its possible I think. Also solve
issues when you need send/get few queries to do logical step...interesting
how this is possible using db level locks ... And a lots of other issues.

> Any other suggestion for a solution would be welcome.

Use existed bikes? :-)

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Re: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

[Chipp Walters]

I imagine the closeStack message is being sent to your mainStack (not the
altSplash stack). If you don't change the originating call, then handle it
in the card or stack script of the mainStack.
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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

[Chipp Walters]

Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing install
(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some reason,
Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS folder,
the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform uses)
would be nice.

-Chipp
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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

[Marian Petrides]

I think you meant, read only, correct  Chipp?

On Jan 30, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:


not to mention it is a write-only partition


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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

[Andre Garzia]

Chipp,

why don't you use a .pkg file? The Developers Tools come with  
PackageMaker, it allows you to build nice installers that actually  
install something.


Andre

On Jan 30, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:


Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing  
install

(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some  
reason,

Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS  
folder,

the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform  
uses)

would be nice.

-Chipp
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Re-2: $279 Sale Price on Studio

[runrev260805]

It seems, that the coupon code provided by Runrev does not work for whatever 
reason. Tried JANSALE30 - didn´t work.

Tried JANSALE1 -  and it worked.

Using JANSALE1 gives a discount of 30%. 

Very funny. Did no one before find out, that the coupon code does not work?

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 20:07)
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Did you enter the coupon code  JANSALE3  ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 19:09)
> From:Steven Axtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > I got an e-mail indicating that Studio is on sale for $279 until Jan. 31.  
> > When I went to purchase it, it was indicated to be $399.  Where do we get 
> > the 30% discount?
> > 
> > Steve Axtell
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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

[Trevor DeVore]

On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:


Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing  
install

(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some  
reason,

Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS  
folder,

the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform  
uses)

would be nice.


FileStorm from MindVision does all of these things.

For DMG files that don't require installers, having an alias to the  
Applications folder on the DMG itself is handy so the user just drops  
the application onto the alias to install.


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Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

[J. Landman Gay]

Chipp Walters wrote:

Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing install
(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some reason,
Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS folder,
the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform uses)
would be nice.


I have to agree with Andre, use PackageMaker. I just finished creating 
an installer with this and it does everything you ask for and more. Once 
you've created your package, you can use a utility like DropDMG to put 
the pkg file onto a downloadable dmg file. Or you can just zip and 
distribute the pkg file; either one.


Note though that most Mac users have no problem dragging apps to the 
Applications folder and Apple recommends that if you are distributing a 
single bundle app, you should use the drag method rather than an 
installer. Installers seem to be a fairly Windows-oriented thing. The 
main reason my client and I had to use the Apple package installer is 
because we needed to set custom permissions on a folder, but other than 
that dragging would have been fine.


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Re: Firefox search plugin for this list on GMane

[J. Landman Gay]

Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hello,

I have put a Firefox search plugin on the Economy-x-Talk website, which 
searches the archives of this list on GMane. You can obtain it by going 
to the Developers section of the Economy-x-Talk homepage. At the bottom 
of the page, you will find the plugin.


Thanks, very nice!

There's a better way to install than the suggestion in the pdf, though. 
Put the files into:


~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles//searchplugins/

Then relaunch Firefox. Doing it this way, you'll still have the plugin 
even if you update the application. There's an equivalent folder on 
Windows too, I just can't remember what it is offhand.


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Re: Firefox search plugin for this list on GMane

[Mark Schonewille]

Thanks, Jacque, I will put this info in the Read Me file.

Best,

Mark

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Download at http://www.salery.biz


Op 30-jan-2007, om 21:42 heeft J. Landman Gay het volgende geschreven:


Thanks, very nice!

There's a better way to install than the suggestion in the pdf,  
though. Put the files into:


~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles// 
searchplugins/


Then relaunch Firefox. Doing it this way, you'll still have the  
plugin even if you update the application. There's an equivalent  
folder on Windows too, I just can't remember what it is offhand.


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Re: Re-2: $279 Sale Price on Studio

[Brent Anderson]

All the newsletter's I've received on the matter have read "JANSALE1"  
so maybe it was a typo on the part of Matthias?


On Jan 30, 2007, at 12:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It seems, that the coupon code provided by Runrev does not work for  
whatever reason. Tried JANSALE30 - didn´t work.


Tried JANSALE1 -  and it worked.

Using JANSALE1 gives a discount of 30%.

Very funny. Did no one before find out, that the coupon code does  
not work?


Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 20:07)
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Did you enter the coupon code  JANSALE3  ?

Cheers,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 19:09)
From:Steven Axtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I got an e-mail indicating that Studio is on sale for $279 until  
Jan. 31.
When I went to purchase it, it was indicated to be $399.  Where  
do we get

the 30% discount?

Steve Axtell
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A few altBrowser questions

[Derek Bump]

I've been using altBrowser for a few years now, and I have a few 
questions that I haven't been able to answer myself.  Would any of you 
happen to know how to resolve some of these issues?


AltBrowser 1.8, Revolution Studio 2.7.4, Windows XP Home Edition (SP2):


   1. Is there any way to stop IE from automatically issuing a "File 
Download" dialog box, and let Rev handle it (like on the Mac)?



   2. Is there any way to stop IE from automatically issuing a "Script 
Error" dialog box (even if it's set that way in the Internet Settings 
control panel)?



   3. Is there any way to stop IE from handling 
window.external.AddSearchProvider("http://www.example.com/Provider.xml";) 
so I can do it instead?  It seems that IE disables this feature when 
it's called by the altBrowser external.



If no one has any ideas on these, then I'll post them to BugZilla.


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Re-4: $279 Sale Price on Studio

[runrev260805]

Yesterday i received a "Last reminder" which included the coupon code 
"JANSALE3"?

Cheers,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re-2: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 21:53)
From:Brent Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> All the newsletter's I've received on the matter have read "JANSALE1"  so 
> maybe it was a typo on the part of Matthias?
> 
> On Jan 30, 2007, at 12:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > It seems, that the coupon code provided by Runrev does not work for  > 
> > whatever reason. Tried JANSALE30 - didn´t work.
> >
> > Tried JANSALE1 -  and it worked.
> >
> > Using JANSALE1 gives a discount of 30%.
> >
> > Very funny. Did no one before find out, that the coupon code does  
> > not work?
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 20:07)
> > From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> Did you enter the coupon code  JANSALE3  ?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 19:09)
> >> From:Steven Axtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>> I got an e-mail indicating that Studio is on sale for $279 until  
> >>> Jan. 31.
> >>> When I went to purchase it, it was indicated to be $399.  Where  
> >>> do we get
> >>> the 30% discount?
> >>>
> >>> Steve Axtell
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Re-5: $279 Sale Price on Studio

[runrev260805]

Just to be sure, I´ve checked the other final reminder emails. The emails with 
the altBrowser "logo" did contain the correct code. The "last reminder"  with  
the logo of a brown chipmunk or something similar did contain the wrong coupon 
code.


Best regards,

 Original Message 
Subject: Re-4: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 22:41)
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

> Yesterday i received a "Last reminder" which included the coupon code "
> JANSALE3"?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Re-2: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 21:53)
> From:Brent Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > All the newsletter's I've received on the matter have read "JANSALE1"  so 
> > maybe it was a typo on the part of Matthias?
> > 
> > On Jan 30, 2007, at 12:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > It seems, that the coupon code provided by Runrev does not work for  > 
> > > whatever reason. Tried JANSALE30 - didn´t work.
> > >
> > > Tried JANSALE1 -  and it worked.
> > >
> > > Using JANSALE1 gives a discount of 30%.
> > >
> > > Very funny. Did no one before find out, that the coupon code does  
> > > not work?
> > >
> > > Matthias
> > >
> > >  Original Message 
> > > Subject: Re: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 20:07)
> > > From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >> Did you enter the coupon code  JANSALE3  ?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Matthias
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Original Message 
> > >> Subject: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 19:09)
> > >> From:Steven Axtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >>> I got an e-mail indicating that Studio is on sale for $279 until  
> > >>> Jan. 31.
> > >>> When I went to purchase it, it was indicated to be $399.  Where  
> > >>> do we get
> > >>> the 30% discount?
> > >>>
> > >>> Steve Axtell
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Is there a reason to own 2 different Studio platforms?

[Neal Campbell K3NC]

Sorry if this hits the list as a duplicate.

I bought Studio to program on the Mac, with some intent to be able to  
have easy porting to Linux and Windows. The marketing spin on the  
website implies you really need to own only 1 platform of Studio as  
you can develop once and deploy many.


Is this the opinion of the people on the list? Is there a compelling  
reason to own Studio on multiple platforms?


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Re: Is there a reason to own 2 different Studio platforms?

[Ian Wood]

You only *need* one, but it's *handy* to have it for all your target  
platforms.


An example from this afternoon:

Development so far has been on OS X, as part of the preopenstack  
command I was setting the contents of several fields to "" so that  
they would start off empty. Slightly later on I was checking if the  
fields were empty before doing some resizing stuff.


Build standalones for OS X & Win. Boot up Parallels, load up a QTVR  
file and the resizing function isn't working in the Windows version.


Turns out that putting "" into a fld on Windows actually puts "0" in  
there. This was causing the field not to be empty, and giving a  
'divide by 0' error. The standalone wasn't giving an error message.  
By having the development environment available I immediately saw the  
error message and could track down the bug.


Ian

On 30 Jan 2007, at 21:56, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:


Sorry if this hits the list as a duplicate.

I bought Studio to program on the Mac, with some intent to be able  
to have easy porting to Linux and Windows. The marketing spin on  
the website implies you really need to own only 1 platform of  
Studio as you can develop once and deploy many.


Is this the opinion of the people on the list? Is there a  
compelling reason to own Studio on multiple platforms?


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Re: Is there a reason to own 2 different Studio platforms?

[Mark Swindell]

I recently had a situation where my OS X standalone worked fine, but  
Windows wasn't working properly.  It was because of using a character  
in a script (≥ ≤) which evaluates fine in OS X but isn't recognized  
by Windows (must use <=  >= . .. who knew?)


These kinds of problems make me want to own the second platform  
license, but I still don't even own a PC or Intel Mac, so until then  
it's hard to justify.


Mark

On Jan 30, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Ian Wood wrote:

You only *need* one, but it's *handy* to have it for all your  
target platforms.


An example from this afternoon:

Development so far has been on OS X, as part of the preopenstack  
command I was setting the contents of several fields to "" so that  
they would start off empty. Slightly later on I was checking if the  
fields were empty before doing some resizing stuff.


Build standalones for OS X & Win. Boot up Parallels, load up a QTVR  
file and the resizing function isn't working in the Windows version.


Turns out that putting "" into a fld on Windows actually puts "0"  
in there. This was causing the field not to be empty, and giving a  
'divide by 0' error. The standalone wasn't giving an error message.  
By having the development environment available I immediately saw  
the error message and could track down the bug.


Ian

On 30 Jan 2007, at 21:56, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:


Sorry if this hits the list as a duplicate.

I bought Studio to program on the Mac, with some intent to be able  
to have easy porting to Linux and Windows. The marketing spin on  
the website implies you really need to own only 1 platform of  
Studio as you can develop once and deploy many.


Is this the opinion of the people on the list? Is there a  
compelling reason to own Studio on multiple platforms?


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Re: Is there a reason to own 2 different Studio platforms?

[J. Landman Gay]

Ian Wood wrote:


Turns out that putting "" into a fld on Windows actually puts "0" in 
there.


I don't see that normally. I've only seen it happen on occasion when 
doing math operations that involve numberformat. But when that happens, 
it does it on all platforms.


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Re: $279 Sale Price on Studio

[Steven Axtell]

> It seems, that the coupon code provided by Runrev does not work for
whatever reason. Tried JANSALE30 - didn´t work.
>
> Tried JANSALE1 -  and it worked.
>
> Using JANSALE1 gives a discount of 30%.
>
> Very funny. Did no one before find out, that the coupon code does not
work?
>
> Matthias
> >
> >

Matthias,

Thanks for the information.  I realized later that I needed to type in the
JANSALE1 code.

Steve


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Re: Infinity Char on Windows

[Mark Greenberg]

Thanks for the responses.  I haven't had a chance to sit down and try  
the solutions yet, but between the HTML entity code and  the Symbols  
font I should be able to make it work.  Thanks Devin and Ken.   
Jeanne, to answer your question, the infinity sign is placed in a  
field when the user hits the space bar, so I handle the MouseDown  
message to insert it.  The same field has to be able to handle  
numbers as well.  I've got three fields for user input (via key  
capture first) and two static fields that combine to show the range  
or domain of a function:  43 < x < 144.  A very preliminary attempt  
to use the Symbol font made an infinity that was too small and too  
low to look good in the math expression, but I can massage that with  
TextShift and TextSize.


Rather than scripting font, size, and shift changes to the field, and  
then back again every time the user types infinity, I might be able  
to achieve the same effect by putting a permanent infinity behind the  
field, and hiding the field if the user types the space bar.  Hm...   
You guys (and gals) are a great help!  Even if I don't end up using  
your solutions directly, they cause me to eventually solve the  
problem one way or another.  I love this list.


Thanks again,
Mark
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Re: Physical Screen Size

[Luis]

Ok, what about attaching a scanner that you have already calibrated?
Should be easy to up the contrast and then scan for edges.

Another option would be to grab a pair of cheap electronic calipers and
hacking them onto a USB device to read the output values.

Alternatively: Hack a USB mouse and rig the H and V rollers to a table.
Then attach a 'pointer' to these rollers and read the H and V values as
the item is 'drawn' and translate them into the appropriate size  
(knowing

the dimensions of the table and calibrating accordingly). Hmmm, maybe
a graphics tablet would do, but it'd get damaged easily.

It would avoid the monitor getting damaged...!

I reckon the scanner would be the more accurate option and you can then
store that for each client.

I wouldn't count on the pixels being square by the way.

Cheers,

Luis.


On 30 Jan 2007, at 18:52, Walton Sumner wrote:

I have a survey instrument which can require interface elements to  
have

exact physical lengths, especially a "visual analog scale" that is
traditionally 10 cm. Not knowing what the screen settings will be  
on client
machines, I have for the time being put a button on the first  
screen of the
survey instrument that allows a survey administrator to drag it's  
right edge

until it is 2 cm long. Then anything else in the stack that needs an
absolute size can be rescaled accordingly. You can put some  
constraints on
the assertions, like expecting no more than 100 pixels/2cm and no  
less than
50 (one real value is 83 on this iMac). So far I've assumed that  
pixels are

squares, hope that's safe.

As long as the survey instrument resides on a given machine, this is a
one-time, set-and-forget event. The rev program reads instructions
(including VAS lengths) in text files to implement new surveys, so the
client holding the pixels/cm data should not be replaced very often.

It is not at all elegant, but I expect that the obvious variations  
on this
theme are pretty reliable (eg, "How long is this line?", "Click 3  
cm from
the end of this line"), and perhaps less trouble for the user than  
asking
for several unfamiliar measurements. Still, if there is a  
transparent way,

I'd like to use it!

To use the info that Luis found, it seems like you would have to  
assert a
pagerect in a print command, then get the printscale used in  
printing the
page, then calculate the absolute size of the card on screen. Has  
anyone

tried that?

Seems like the simplest thing to do should be to read the diagonal  
of used
screen space from the hardware, but I do not see a rev command to  
do that.
Maybe there is a shell command to read the diagonal on some  
systems, but I

have not found it.

Walton Sumner


Found this under the 'print' entry in the Rev Dictionary:

'The pageRect is the rectangle into which the card is printed, and
consists of four integers separated by commas: the left, top,  
right, and
bottom edges of the printed card, in points. (There are 72 points  
to an

inch.) The card is scaled to fit the specified pageRect. If you don't
specify a pageRect, the card's size depends on the printScale  
property.'


Might help in calibrating the size.

Cheers,

Luis.



Luis wrote:

Hmmm, ok. What you could then do is open a dialogue box asking for
dimensions (17 inch, 19 inch, etc), resolution, type (CRT, LCD or
Plasma) and dpi. If the dpi is unknown by the user you could try to
default to the most common dpi for that 'type' of monitor.

Cheers,

Luis.


Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Luis,

Yup, my main monitor is of the brand "unknown".

Mark

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Op 19-jan-2007, om 17:00 heeft Luis het volgende geschreven:


Hiya,

If you can determine the monitor type you could probe a  
database of

configurations/resolution/dpi settings etc and then calculate the
image size (using its coordinates) based on this information.
I haven't looked into this but I reckon OSX and WXP have these  
in the

system somewhere (so they can 'plug and play').


Cheers,

Luis.


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Re: Re-2: $279 Sale Price on Studio

[Jim Carwardine]

Does that discount apply to upgrading from Studio to Enterprise?  Jim


on 1/30/07 3:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It seems, that the coupon code provided by Runrev does not work for whatever
> reason. Tried JANSALE30 - didn´t work.
> 
> Tried JANSALE1 -  and it worked.
> 
> Using JANSALE1 gives a discount of 30%.
> 
> Very funny. Did no one before find out, that the coupon code does not work?
> 
> Matthias
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 20:07)
> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> Did you enter the coupon code  JANSALE3  ?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: $279 Sale Price on Studio (30-Jan-2007 19:09)
>> From:Steven Axtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>>> I got an e-mail indicating that Studio is on sale for $279 until Jan. 31.
>>> When I went to purchase it, it was indicated to be $399.  Where do we get
>>> the 30% discount?
>>> 
>>> Steve Axtell
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Standalone building Look and Feel

[Jesse Sng]

Hi,

After quite some time, I've decided to try to release a standalone 
for testing and I've found some problems with the Look and Feel.


I'm using 2.7.4 and I have global floating windows under OS X and was 
trying to build a Universal Binary. For some reason, while everything 
looked fine in the development environment, whenever I attempted to 
build the stack as a standalone, it showed up with an EMULATED MacOS 
Platinum look instead.


It works fine under StackRunner if I drag and drop the stack on it. 
Am I missing an update or is there something that I missed out? I 
have the Default Appearance but it seems to explicitly default to 
Platinum.


Apologies if this was something already covered, I did try to do a 
search but only found stuff about appearance on Linux.



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Zipping files

[J. Landman Gay]

I need to compress large-ish files, around 50-100 megs each. I wonder if 
anyone knows whether zip or gz format is easier on RAM. Is it correct 
that both methods require about double the amount of RAM as the file 
size? Is one preferable over the other under low memory conditions? Are 
there any other considerations when choosing between the two?


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Re: Zipping files

[Brian Yennie]

Jacque,

I don't have a direct answer for you, but I can throw one more  
alternative in the bucket. If you're doing this under MacOS, you can  
always use the command-line "gzip" utility through shell(). It's  
possible this would be more memory efficient than Rev's internal  
commands, although it also might not be =).


With a little shell() shenanigans, it might also allow for  
asynchronous work in Rev.


HTH

- Brian

I need to compress large-ish files, around 50-100 megs each. I  
wonder if anyone knows whether zip or gz format is easier on RAM.  
Is it correct that both methods require about double the amount of  
RAM as the file size? Is one preferable over the other under low  
memory conditions? Are there any other considerations when choosing  
between the two?


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Re: Standalone building Look and Feel

[Sarah Reichelt]

The problem is that in the current version of Rev, the standalone
builder does not always copy the display plugin bundles to your new
app, so they look like they are running under OS 9. You have to find
the Plugins inside the Rev app package and copy them to the empty
Plugins folder in your app.

If you want this to happen autaomtically, here is a link to a script I
posted for this purpose. Watch out for line wraps.


HTH,
Sarah


On 1/31/07, Jesse Sng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

After quite some time, I've decided to try to release a standalone
for testing and I've found some problems with the Look and Feel.

I'm using 2.7.4 and I have global floating windows under OS X and was
trying to build a Universal Binary. For some reason, while everything
looked fine in the development environment, whenever I attempted to
build the stack as a standalone, it showed up with an EMULATED MacOS
Platinum look instead.

It works fine under StackRunner if I drag and drop the stack on it.
Am I missing an update or is there something that I missed out? I
have the Default Appearance but it seems to explicitly default to
Platinum.

Apologies if this was something already covered, I did try to do a
search but only found stuff about appearance on Linux.


Jesse Sng
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Re: Zipping files

[Richard Gaskin]

Jacqueline wrote:
I need to compress large-ish files, around 50-100 megs each. I  
wonder if anyone knows whether zip or gz format is easier on RAM.  
Is it correct that both methods require about double the amount of  
RAM as the file size? Is one preferable over the other under low  
memory conditions? Are there any other considerations when choosing  
between the two?


Many moons ago I had occasion to decompress what turned out to be a 
560MB file (started out as about 130MBs) - I used the built-in 
decompress command, and it worked fine on even an old 500MHz Mac running 
OS X 10.2 with maybe half a gig of RAM.  It took a while (one might 
expect that with any tool on that machine with that file), but finished 
with no problems.


So suffice to say I've never bothered looking into other options since 
then. :)


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Re: Infinity Char on Windows

[Dave Cragg]

On 29 Jan 2007, at 04:26, Ken Ray wrote:


Personally, I'd suggest replacing your Mac-only infinity symbols with
the symbol from the Symbol font (ASCII 165), which is cross- 
platform so

you won't have to do anything special for Windows.


There's a possible gotcha...  While the Symbol font may seem cross- 
platform friendly, if stored in a field, Rev will perform a MacToISO  
or ISOToMac on the field when you open the stack on the platform on a  
different platform from which the stack was last saved.


Rather than scripting font, size, and shift changes to the field,  
and then back again every time the user types infinity, I might be  
able to achieve the same effect by putting a permanent infinity  
behind the field, and hiding the field if the user types the space  
bar.


Because of the above issue, as well as hiding the front field, you  
may need to reset the infinity character at the same time in case it  
has been "converted".


Cheers
Dave


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