Re: Drag and Drop to Item in List Field
On a locked field with list behavior set and this script in the field works for me. I found this somewhere (can't remember to give credit): on mouseMove put word 2 of the mouseLine into myLineNr if myLineNr is not empty and the hilitedline of me is not myLineNr then set the hilitedLine of me to myLineNr end if end mouseMove Marty Knapp The following script works very well with one problem. This script hilites the line correctly but just keeps hiliting lines as I move the mouse around and they stay hilited. Make a scrolling field with some lines of text and put this handler in it: on mouseWithin set the backgroundColor of the mouseLine to yellow end mouseWithin How do I have it only hilite one line at a time? Bill Vlahos On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I have a list of categories and I want to drag and drop some text from a list field onto one of the categories in the target list field. The line of text should hilite on the drag (before the drop) so I know which item it is going to I should drag into. I can get most of the coding for drag and drop but there are some things I don't know. 1. How do I hilite the line of text in the list field the mouse is over? 2. How do I get the line of text in the target list field when the users drops the mouse? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bring window to front on desktop
On Mac I use this to bring the app to the front (but don't have an answer for windows): put tell application quote application name quote cr activate cr end tell into x do x as AppleScript Marty Knapp Anyone solved how to bring a stack window to the top on the desktop after a file dragDrop? 1. drop files 2. bring stack window to top on desktop (ie. in front of the OS source drag window) 3. show a modal answer dlog 4. carry on What happens is that the source OS window can obscure the modal answer dlog so it looks as if the program has hung. Actually there is a window waiting to be clicked! Tried these before showing the modal: - Focus on/ go/ etc do not change the overall window layering. - Set the style to modeless, but the window runs through its openstack routine even with 'lock messages', and is still not layered on top anyway. - Temporarily setting the systemWindow of the stack to true works, but it then obscures the modal so user is locked out. I have looked in the archives for a Mac/Win solution and didn't find anything, except that others have had a problem also. MSWord does it, so it must be do-able (perhaps an external would be needed for LiveCode?). Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
in a menu?
For a Mac only program, is there a way to use ampersand in a popup menu button? I understand its normal use, but I'm needing to emulate a menu in another program. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: in a menu?
Thank you! Marty Apples Oranges... double up the ampersand Have a look at page 262 of the 'User Guide' be well Dixie Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:43:03 -0700 From: martykn...@comcast.net To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: in a menu? For a Mac only program, is there a way to use ampersand in a popup menu button? I understand its normal use, but I'm needing to emulate a menu in another program. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: plisted off ?
Sarah has a nice plist editor: http://troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Utility#stacks toward the bottom. Marty Knapp I just released a new version of the Demo of my upcoming Devawriter Pro and got this back from the people at MacUpdate: You recently submitted an update request in which you referred to the latest version of DevaWriter Pro as simply RC2, but according to the version strings in the info.plist file, it is 4.0.0.950. Is this a release candidate for Version 4.0? Please let me know so that I can clarify this version number discrepancy. Umm . . . 1. Am I missing something? Having set the version number as 'R2' in the standalone builder; why does the info.plist contain the version number of the development IDE? 2. Is there a simple way to circumvent this? Short of cracking open the Mac .app package and editing the info.plist with a text editor? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Moving 2 object at the same time ...
You could place both images in a group and move the group. Marty Knapp Hello, I want to move to image on the screen in the same time. I try to use the lockMove property but the image jump directly from start to end of the move. Can anyBody help me with that ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Slow On-Rev?
Anybody experiencing extreme slowness with On-Rev? I'm on Thor, I believe, and things are just crawling along . . . Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Search Engine
I don't think it's a Rev thing - it's an OS thing. Some apps use it in conjunction with a PDF which is tucked inside the application bundle. I was actually curious as to how one would implement it. For example, open TextEdit and use it to see how it can function. Marty Knapp Under the HELP menu. Probably the second time in about 9 years I have ever tried to use this: it gave what can only be described as a little fart on my MacMini, and that my dears was all. if it is nothing but flatulence, why is it still there? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How can I direct revGoURL to a specific browser?
On Mac, I've saved URLs as weblocs and then used the launch command: launch webLocPath with /Applications/Safari.app On Windows perhaps you could save a URL as a shortcut and do the same? (I've not tried it) Marty Knapp I want to open a link on Windows using revGoURL link. This works great with whatever browser the user has as their default browser. The problem is that the link only works in IE and I can't guarantee that IE is the default browser. How can I have a specific browser run the link? On the Mac I could use AppleScript but I don't know how to do it on Windows. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Example of scrolling group?
When setting the passKey of a protected stack, is there a way to catch if is valid or not? I made a change in the password of some of my stacks along the way, and so there are two possible passKeys. If there's a way for me to try one, then if it fails try another, I'd be a lot happier today! My guess is that it can't be done, but maybe? Thanks, Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Setting a PassKey - can errors be caught?
I just realized that I posted my question under the wrong subject - sorry about that. So I thought I should re-post: When setting the passKey of a protected stack (via script), is there a way to catch if is valid or not? I made a change in the password of some of my stacks along the way, and so there are two possible passKeys (real smart I know . . .). If there's a way for me to try one, then if it fails try another, I'd be a lot happier today! My guess is that it can't be done, but maybe? BTW these stacks are in the hands of my users. Locally it would be no problem to fix, I know. Thanks, Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] G4 goes West
I'm running a 2001 Titanium PowerBook (500 MHz) on 10.5 - I had to put the drive in another computer to install it though. I think if the processor is over 1Ghz the installer will work on a G4, but that's the end of the line as far as OS upgrades. Marty Knapp You can run a G4 under 10.5??? Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hard CASE: cracking the nut?
OK, I think I have this worked out. I spread my scripts around (reminded me of my HyperCard days and running into the 32k script limit!) and got everything below the 10 statement limit and it seems to be working now. Thanks, Marty Marty Knapp wrote: What I have is a standalone that contains template stacks from which a user creates their own stacks. These stacks are saved outside of the standalone. I wanted to institute an updating feature, where the user's stack version is compared to the template (which may have had revisions from being updated) on launch and if needed to have the standalone copy the scripts from the template into the user stack, rather than making them create a new stack. But if any of these scripts exceed the 10 statement limit it will not work. So I stripped the template stack of as much code as I could, which also minimizes the need for updating in the first place :) But this user stack needs access to the standalone stacks and scripts to function properly, so now I've found that if the user launches the standalone by double-clicking their stack, that once in a while the stacks/scripts it needs are not available and I get errors when the user stack loads. Not always, but probably 1 in 10 times. I've tried a number of routines to check for this, but these routines need to be in the user stack and I run into the 10 statement limit . . . I hope that's understandable! Only sort of, I'm still a little confused. But basically when I have a system with templates, I put almost nothing in the template except very generic handler calls. I put all the actual, working handlers in the app's script, where I can change them without updating the templates. I'm not sure why your templates need to contain any updating code. They should just call a handler like checkUpdates, which the main stack executes. It can then act on any stacks it needs to change (with the exception of long scripts, but if you use the generic approach to handlers, that shouldn't be a problem.) If your users double-click a stack to launch your app, your app will first get all the startup, preOpenStack, openStack etc. messages, and then will open the user stack. The mainstack's script should automatically be shared as a backscript, but if that isn't always happening you can specifically insert it on preOpenStack. That should clear up any issues your user stacks may have accessing the mainstack script. Also make sure the handlers in the user stack pass any necessary system messages if your mainstack needs to operate on those. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Short name and long name
Let's say a user creates a stack from one of my templates, then later in the Finder, changes its name. Now there's a discrepancy between the short name and the long name. Is that a problem or does Rev understand this? Or should I construct a routine to parse the file name out and set the name to correct for this? I'm trying to think of everything that could go wrong with my application in the hands of others and account for it. It's a lot easier to write apps for your own use (which is what I mostly do), where you understand the logic and tend not to do anything to mess things up (most of the time!) . . . Thanks, Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Short name and long name
Thanks everyone. In my tests it worked fine. But I wasn't sure if there was something I was unaware of that would come back to bite me on the backside! Thanks, Marty Marty Knapp wrote: Let's say a user creates a stack from one of my templates, then later in the Finder, changes its name. Now there's a discrepancy between the short name and the long name. Is that a problem or does Rev understand this? Or should I construct a routine to parse the file name out and set the name to correct for this? What happened when you tried it? It's a quick test: 1. Make a stack 2. Save it 3. In the Finder/Explorer, change the name of the file 4. Save it again ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hard CASE: cracking the nut?
I've been running into the 10-statement script limit issue myself. Is there a way to put a script into a field or custom property and execute it without a do command? If so, could someone offer an example? In my current scenario, speed is not a big issue. Thanks, Marty Richmond Mathewson wrote: is Any script that needs do in order to execute is dynamic. adequately documented in the documentation ? When using a standalone application created by Revolution, you can include up to ten statements in the statementList. This limit is set by line 2 of the scriptLimits function. This limitation does not apply when using the development environment. Um . . . not terribly clear (well, at least not to the likes of me); how do sillybillies like me understand that a statementList ( a what ??) refers to a field or some other sort of container? The term statementlist here is in italics, which means it's a variable name. That's the convention for all syntax descriptions in the docs. The variable in this case consists of a list of statements or a series of commands (which can be stored anywhere.) The example section on the page show several types of statementlists. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hard CASE: cracking the nut?
What I have is a standalone that contains template stacks from which a user creates their own stacks. These stacks are saved outside of the standalone. I wanted to institute an updating feature, where the user's stack version is compared to the template (which may have had revisions from being updated) on launch and if needed to have the standalone copy the scripts from the template into the user stack, rather than making them create a new stack. But if any of these scripts exceed the 10 statement limit it will not work. So I stripped the template stack of as much code as I could, which also minimizes the need for updating in the first place :) But this user stack needs access to the standalone stacks and scripts to function properly, so now I've found that if the user launches the standalone by double-clicking their stack, that once in a while the stacks/scripts it needs are not available and I get errors when the user stack loads. Not always, but probably 1 in 10 times. I've tried a number of routines to check for this, but these routines need to be in the user stack and I run into the 10 statement limit . . . I hope that's understandable! Marty Marty Knapp wrote: I've been running into the 10-statement script limit issue myself. Is there a way to put a script into a field or custom property and execute it without a do command? If so, could someone offer an example? In my current scenario, speed is not a big issue. That depends on what you need to do. If you need to create new scripts with new functionality on the fly then you'll need to stay within the 10 line limit. But most of the time, you can substitute backscripts, behaviors, or custom functions and handlers that accept passed parameters to do whatever you need. If you can say a little more about what you need to accomplish we can probably help better. There's not much that really requires dynamic scripting. Post your dynamic script for us to look at, maybe? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stack in memory problem
OK, so I got the A stack with the same name as the one you are trying to load is already open message and I've tried all the options: Save - Purge - Cancel and nothing gets me anywhere. I quit Rev, start it up again and get the same message when I try to open one of the stacks. I quit, reboot the computer, try it again and I still can't get the same message and the stack won't open . . . Is this weird or what? How can it still be in memory after quitting or rebooting? Thanks for any help, Mart Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack in memory problem
The name isn't a problem - it's not a plugin or IDE stack name. I've been using it for over a year. I do have another stack of the same name in a different directory. When I build a standalone I take the original and do some things to it, then copy it to a different folder before the build. On the rare occasions I've had trouble before, I just quit and restarted. The weird part now is that the problem persists after quiting and even after rebooting the computer. It's like there's something in a cache file or something. I've even loaded up the project in a secondary copy of Rev and get the same problem . . . Marty Marty- Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:27:56 PM, you wrote: OK, so I got the A stack with the same name as the one you are trying to load is already open message and I've tried all the options: Save - What's the name of the stack you're trying to open? Could it be the same as one of the existing stacks in the IDE or a plugin stack? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack in memory problem
I figured it out - this stack is a template and I have an openstack routine to check a version number to see if it needs to be updated. The stack that it checks is the same name as my original so I scripted around that and I'm fine. Thanks to Paul, Mark and Jacque for the input though! Once you figure these things out it seems so clear! Marty Marty Knapp wrote: The name isn't a problem - it's not a plugin or IDE stack name. I've been using it for over a year. I do have another stack of the same name in a different directory. When I build a standalone I take the original and do some things to it, then copy it to a different folder before the build. On the rare occasions I've had trouble before, I just quit and restarted. The weird part now is that the problem persists after quiting and even after rebooting the computer. It's like there's something in a cache file or something. I've even loaded up the project in a secondary copy of Rev and get the same problem . . . It sounds like the stack is opening automatically on launch. If it isn't a rev-related stack, then look for a plugin or frontscript that opens it, puts it in use, or requests data from it. Any of those things will load it into memory. Also, the next time you have it open, make sure the destroystack property is set to true. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack in memory problem
That's it - a Hindsight plug-in for tRev :) Marty- Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:51:04 PM, you wrote: though! Once you figure these things out it seems so clear! Yeah - hindsight is a wonderful tool. I wish the IDE had it built in so I could turn in on *before* I get into trouble. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weird stack name
I lost all emails from the list from about 4 o'clock yesterday (Pacific Daylight Time in the U.S.) so if anyone responded to this issue, could you please resend to me? Sorry for the bother. Marty Knapp Michael Kann wrote: Marty, I would take a look at all the readable strings in your standalone binary. Find the Macintosh version of this type of Windows program: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Programming/textscan/Freeware.htm The string must be in there somewhere. I was thinking the same. Marty, you can just open the stack in BBEdit or any text editor. If that string isn't there, do you have any printing handlers? Seems like the name is related to that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weird stack name
Thanks Michael - for now I just implemented a routine to check for these errant stacks and delete them when the app quits. Kinda lame, but until I can figure this out it will have to do. Marty Marty, As for the specific problem, I think we're stumped. --- On Wed, 5/12/10, Marty Knapp martykn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Marty Knapp martykn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Weird stack name To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 10:54 AM I lost all emails from the list from about 4 o'clock yesterday (Pacific Daylight Time in the U.S.) so if anyone responded to this issue, could you please resend to me? Sorry for the bother. Marty Knapp Michael Kann wrote: Marty, I would take a look at all the readable strings in your standalone binary. Find the Macintosh version of this type of Windows program: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Programming/textscan/Freeware.htm The string must be in there somewhere. I was thinking the same. Marty, you can just open the stack in BBEdit or any text editor. If that string isn't there, do you have any printing handlers? Seems like the name is related to that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Weird stack name
I posted this once before a while back . . . but didn't get any response, so thought I'd try again :) I have a standalone from which I can create a stack (from a template stack) and it is stored in a specific folder so the program can find it. Every once in a while in this folder there is a stack with some variation of this name: /Resources/PrinterInfo.xml I can open it up and it's a stack made from my template, but where the h*ll did this weird name come from? The stack that I intended to save is there too, with the correct name. I'm working on an Intel Mac with Leopard and Rev Studio 4. This does not happen often or predictably, but I'd like to track this down before I go public with my program. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weird stack name
Nowhere in my scripting, and nowhere on my hard drive . . . (except these errant stacks) Marty Knapp wrote: I posted this once before a while back . . . but didn't get any response, so thought I'd try again :) I have a standalone from which I can create a stack (from a template stack) and it is stored in a specific folder so the program can find it. Every once in a while in this folder there is a stack with some variation of this name: /Resources/PrinterInfo.xml I can open it up and it's a stack made from my template, but where the h*ll did this weird name come from? The stack that I intended to save is there too, with the correct name. I'm working on an Intel Mac with Leopard and Rev Studio 4. This does not happen often or predictably, but I'd like to track this down before I go public with my program. How odd. Try searching your scripts for PrinterInfo.xml and see if anything shows up. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weird stack name
I wonder if it's in a printing library that the standalone builder includes? Marty, I would take a look at all the readable strings in your standalone binary. Find the Macintosh version of this type of Windows program: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Programming/textscan/Freeware.htm The string must be in there somewhere. Mike --- On Tue, 5/11/10, Marty Knapp martykn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Marty Knapp martykn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Weird stack name To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 4:41 PM Nowhere in my scripting, and nowhere on my hard drive . . . (except these errant stacks) Marty Knapp wrote: I posted this once before a while back . . . but didn't get any response, so thought I'd try again :) I have a standalone from which I can create a stack (from a template stack) and it is stored in a specific folder so the program can find it. Every once in a while in this folder there is a stack with some variation of this name: /Resources/PrinterInfo.xml I can open it up and it's a stack made from my template, but where the h*ll did this weird name come from? The stack that I intended to save is there too, with the correct name. I'm working on an Intel Mac with Leopard and Rev Studio 4. This does not happen often or predictably, but I'd like to track this down before I go public with my program. How odd. Try searching your scripts for PrinterInfo.xml and see if anything shows up. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weird stack name
Well I opened the app in TextWrangler, but couldn't find anything . . . I have some printing handlers, but nothing that remotely contains the mystery name. Michael Kann wrote: Marty, I would take a look at all the readable strings in your standalone binary. Find the Macintosh version of this type of Windows program: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Programming/textscan/Freeware.htm The string must be in there somewhere. I was thinking the same. Marty, you can just open the stack in BBEdit or any text editor. If that string isn't there, do you have any printing handlers? Seems like the name is related to that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Printing Resized PNGs
When I print a resized PNG image that has transparency (resizeQuality set to best after import, then resized) it is noticeably inferior to a resized PNG without transparency -- does that jive with others' experiences? If this is the case, is there anything I can do about it? The images I'm printing are usually from 1/2 to 1 square. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Resized PNGs
Even though the transparency is set in Photoshop? OK - I'm batting 0 here! I'll just tell my clients to use only JPEGs and non-transparent PNGs. Maybe in the next version of Rev . . . Thanks, Marty Marty Knapp wrote: When I print a resized PNG image that has transparency (resizeQuality set to best after import, then resized) it is noticeably inferior to a resized PNG without transparency -- does that jive with others' experiences? If this is the case, is there anything I can do about it? The images I'm printing are usually from 1/2 to 1 square. I think you're running into the same issue as printing images with inks. You'll get a screen shot. Transparency is a type of ink. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Resized PNGs
Thanks Jacque, I did get some improvement when I realized that I needed to set the resizeQuality to Best after importing an image, but before any resizing. Before I had simply set the quality of my placeholder image to Best. Still JPEGs and non-transparent PNGs print best. BTW I'm printing to a laser printer - haven't tried much printing to an inkjet yet. Marty Marty Knapp wrote: Even though the transparency is set in Photoshop? OK - I'm batting 0 here! I'll just tell my clients to use only JPEGs and non-transparent PNGs. Maybe in the next version of Rev . . . I found the reference I was looking for before, which is in the engine change log for Rev version 3.0: Printing Any printed content that can not be rendered by the native OS printing system is now rasterized at a higher resolution before being sent to the printer as a bitmap. This means that any printouts containing gradients, transparency or scaled images look much better. So apparently it would have been even worse before...and it's dependent on the OS print drivers. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)
Well put, Richard. Let's hope that Apple has a change of mind on this one. Marty Knapp Kay C Lan wrote: To that I say, let it happen, let market forces play out, let capitalism do it's thing. Amen. I can't help but wonder if underlying all of this may be that Steve Jobs doesn't have faith in Apple's ability to deliver an unquestionably superior experience. He writes about how multi-platforms apps -- such as the ones we Rev folks make for the desktop -- lower the quality of the user experience. If that were the case to any degree that mattered, people simply wouldn't buy our apps, and would instead choose a truly native alternative. But in practice I see two factors that support using a middleware engine like Rev: 1. The quality difference is not significant enough to matter to users. My Rev-based app got a 4.5-out-of-5 review at not just any mag, but MacWorld, where the reviewer, editorial director Jason Snell, knows a thing or two about Mac UI conventions. His review never mentioned that the text in my tab controls is one pixel lower than spec. Instead, he lauded its efficiency and ease of use. The language doesn't make the software, the developers does. You can make sloppy apps in Objective-C, and you can be diligent with Rev. 2. In many cases, our is the only Mac offering available. Many of the apps I make for my clients do not have Mac-native competitors. Instead, our competitors tell their Mac customers to run their Windows apps under Parallels or Bootcamp. Few Windows developers bother to port to Mac -- why double development costs only to gain an extra 10% market potential? If we weren't able to keep our costs down by using a single code base to deliver to all three platforms, we probably wouldn't deliver for OS X at all, since we make four to eight times as much money from our Windows customers. But thanks to cross-platform tools like Rev, it's affordable to deliver for the Mac audience, and even on our worst day our UX better conforms to the Mac HIG that running a Win app under emulation. :) If we were prevented from using Rev for OS X, OS X simply wouldn't have some software categories addressed at all. Today this may not seem relevant on the iPhone OS with its 200,000 apps, but over time I think it'll start to become noticeable, esp. in vertical categories such as those most Rev developers make. If Steve Jobs believes that Apple can deliver an unquestionably superior user experience, one that matters enough to drive sales, why not let cross-platform tools continue to address vertical needs for iPhone OS as they do for OS X? Is he afraid that he'll see on the iPhone what we've all been seeing on the desktop for years, that it really doesn't matter to end-users what language is used to make an app as long as it enhances their workflow? Is he afraid that Apple won't be able to offer sufficiently compelling differentiation unless he locks developers into making apps for iPhone OS exclusively by arbitrarily raising their development costs to the point that they have to choose between iPhone or the rest of the world? I agree with your statement: Let the market decide if Rev apps are worthwhile. One significant irony in all of this is that Apple already allows one universal scripting language to be used to make app bundles for iPhone OS, with access to the accelerometer, GPS, multitouch, and other features common among modern mobile devices: JavaScript, via WebKit. With JavaScript you can use a single code base to deliver apps to multiple mobile OSes, and you could even make them as ugly as you like, and they'll be fully compliant with the new license terms. If they allow that scripting language, why not also Rev? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue
I have a client that sometimes works for lawyers as an expert witness doing economic loss analysis. I think he charges $300 an hour. And he does all his calculations on a 1985 SE/30 running Excel 2.0. I put its second hard drive in about 5 years ago and recently swapped out the motherboard as it was starting to act a little flaky. Not bad for a 25 year old computer. Marty Knapp I still have my working SE-30, which still has big screen capability, 10Base-T Ethernet, and an accelerator. Last use was to be an SMTP and FTP server - worked well. I'm keeping that unit, but am giving my other Mac history items away - any luddites in SF call me before they become e-waste. I have an 9600, 8100, and 7100, a cube, and an iMac. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: on BarneyCode put CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR Into IsBarneyTheAntiChrist put 0 into TheNumberThatWillProveIt replace U with V in IsBarneyTheAntiChrist --Should be proper Latin- well, because repeat with x=1 to the number of chars of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist if char x of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist is in C,V,L,D,I then --Only use letters that are Roman Numerals add romanToArab(char x of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist) to TheNumberThatWillProveIt end if end repeat answer warning TheNumberThatWillProveIt end BarneyCode --function by Mark Schonewille function romanToArab theNumber put i,v,x,l,c,d,m into myRomans put 1,5,10,50,100,500,1000 into myArabs put item itemoffset(last char of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myNumber repeat with x = (number of chars of theNumber - 1) down to 1 put item itemoffset(char x of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myTemp1 put item itemoffset(char x + 1 of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myTemp2 if myTemp1 myTemp2 then subtract myTemp1 from myNumber else add myTemp1 to myNumber end repeat return myNumber end romanToArab Marty Knapp P.S. My apologies ahead of time if I offended your religious, non-religious, or irreligious sensibilities. P.S. #2 I hope Mark doesn't mind me using his function for this silliness Spookier still is to consider what ungodly combination of space alien and furry marmot gave birth to Barney. Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Barney
Are you suggesting that this is rooted in a lack of sleep or that it was so brilliant that it *must* have taken a lot of effort??? :) (come to think of it, I didn't sleep well last night . . .) Marty Knapp wrote: Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: You stayed awake all night thinking this up, right? :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What can an image object display?
Hey Bill , Looking in the dictionary under import list this: Importing a paint file creates an image object on the current card. The import command can import GIF, JPEG, PNG, BMP, XWD, XBM, XPM, or PBM, PGM, or PPM files. On Mac OS systems, PICT files can also be imported (but they cannot be displayed on Unix or Windows systems). Importing an EPS file creates an EPS object on the current card. -Marty Knapp I've looked in the docs but I don't see a complete listing of all the image types that the Rev image object can display. I think it can be png, jpeg, gif, animated gif but I'm sure there are more. Can someone point me to the list? I want to make an answer file with type dialog for all of the data types that can be displayed. Does anyone have a canned statement for it? Thanks, Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ink Settings and Printing
Thanks Scott - I've played around some with printing snapshots, but the resolution is too low for this project. I do have a work-around for what I'm doing, for the most part. Thanks, Marty Recently, Marty Knapp wrote: I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every setting that allows underlaying objects to show through the white bounding box of my jpeg - which is what I need. Has anyone else tried something like this? I've tried this also with png images and gif images as well- all seems to suffer when set to (for example) blendMultiply. Marty, have you tried creating a snapshot of the card first, and then printing the snapshot? Might work better than trying to force the inks/image formats. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Ink Settings and Printing
I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every setting that allows underlaying objects to show through the white bounding box of my jpeg - which is what I need. Has anyone else tried something like this? I've tried this also with png images and gif images as well- all seems to suffer when set to (for example) blendMultiply. Thanks for any input, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ink Settings and Printing
I was afraid of that. Oh well - thanks for letting me know. Marty Marty Knapp wrote: I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every setting that allows underlaying objects to show through the white bounding box of my jpeg - which is what I need. Has anyone else tried something like this? I've tried this also with png images and gif images as well- all seems to suffer when set to (for example) blendMultiply. If I remember the change notes right, you bascially get a screen shot if there are blended inks on the image. The engine can't render those. Wish I could remember which set of notes to point you to, it was somewhere around when the revised image capabilities kicked in. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevStore
My boys made games like that when they were younger! lol - that brings back some funny memories. Marty I confess though, in retrospect I really do wish I'd saved a copy of Man Gets Beheaded By a Ceiling Fan. You had to be there. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing stacks without opening
Thanks. I figured out, too, that my thinking that things were being saved in stacks I'd accessed this way was because they were still loaded into memory. When I quit and reopened nothing was there. So you need to save the stack. Still I can see where this can be handy in some situations as all the normal openCard, etc scripts are not called. Marty Marty Knapp wrote: So it appears that you can set custom properties of a stack and put information into fields of stacks that are not open, from a stack that is open. I just did it by accident! That being the case, is there anything that I should be aware of when doing this? Is the referenced stack loaded into memory? Is this considered bad form? As Phil said, it can be handy. I use prefs stacks this way sometimes because they're available but out of the message path. I make sure to close the prefs stack when the main stack quits. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Accessing stacks without opening
So it appears that you can set custom properties of a stack and put information into fields of stacks that are not open, from a stack that is open. I just did it by accident! That being the case, is there anything that I should be aware of when doing this? Is the referenced stack loaded into memory? Is this considered bad form? Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating running apps
Trevor's GLX Frameworks does this, though I couldn't tell you how! Marty Knapp I have some apps that when checking for updates, then offer a Install Relaunch option. This seems really cool to me, but I haven't worked out how to do it in my Rev apps. If I am only updating separate sub-stacks, then I can work it out, but if I want to update the actual application file what can I do? I can get the existing app to download the new version, but then what? Can a running app replace itself on disk? Then how to tell it to quit re-launch? On a Mac, I guess I could spit out an AppleScript to quit the app, re-locate the downloaded app, then restart it but the apps I have don't seem to start an AppleScript when doing this. Any suggestions? Cheers, Sarah P.S. When I say Andre announce revSparkle I got all excited as I thought he was offering hooks into the Sparkle updater framework http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/, but it was a different Sparkle :-( ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dragging a stack around
Here's a script from Scott Rossi's WindowLab example stack: (put it in the stack scripts) local allowDrag on mouseDown put mouseH() , mouseV() into allowDrag end mouseDown on mouseMove x,y if allowDrag is empty then exit mouseMove set topLeft of this stack to globalLoc(x-item 1 of allowDrag , y-item 2 of allowDrag) end mouseMove on mouseUp put empty into allowDrag end mouseUp on mouseRelease mouseUp end mouseRelease -Marty Knapp How would one drag an entire window/stack around (for example, if the title bar becomes obstructed)? If I hold my mouse down over an empty piece of real estate I'd like to be able to drag the whole window from there, just as if I were dragging from the title bar. Thanks Mark___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
splash21 Site
Probably many of you have seen the site splash21.on-rev.com which is a great example of an On-Rev site. Sign up and you can download the files for the whole site. I did so and uploaded to my On-Rev account and have been trying to learn its inner workings. I'm pretty new to most of this, but I have the site up and running, the MySQL database setup, but I can't get the signup feature to work. It accepts the signup and I can see the name and encrypted password in the MySQL database, but I can't login on the site. Has anyone gotten this to work? I'm wondering if it's a sendmail problem as I recall there was a recent discussion about that not working on On-Rev (though obviously the author of splash21 has theirs working . . .) I did try a note to the author of splash21 through the contact form but haven't heard anything. I do appreciate them providing all their hard work on this. But like I said most of this is pretty new to me. If anyone has any help for me that would be great. Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Registration Software (OT)
This is a bit off topic, but I was wondering if anyone is using a web-based, out-of-the-box software package for tracking registered users. I don't need anything too elaborate, but it would be nice if the user could update their info and you could do a simple mailing to notify people of upgrades (if they opt to receive such). I've poked around but haven't found anything that looks very appealing and I'd rather not roll my own at this point. Thanks for any input, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?
Thanks Richard and others who've posted on this. Very interesting articles. Now *all* I need to to do is wrap my brain around all this and decide how to proceed! Marty Marty Knapp wrote: I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between method. If your user then registered their key and someone else subsequently tried to register the same number you would have some recourse. I don't want to get bogged down in lots of administrative hassles, so I like this method. Does anyone have suggestions about setting up something like this? And a method for verifying the key? Challenging, but fun: - Start by reading these for inspiration: The Plain Truth about Casual Software Piracy by Matt Slot, Ambrosia Software http://www.windowsusers.org/piracy.html Anti Cracking FAQ How to make cracking your programs a little harder http://www.inner-smile.com/nocrack.phtml ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?
I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between method. If your user then registered their key and someone else subsequently tried to register the same number you would have some recourse. I don't want to get bogged down in lots of administrative hassles, so I like this method. Does anyone have suggestions about setting up something like this? And a method for verifying the key? I'm no mathematician by any means, unfortunately! Perhaps there is a key generator program, though I looked around and couldn't really find anything (other than non-Rev code). I'd prefer a Mac program but I have XP running in Parallels if there's a Windows only offering. Any help, tips, leads? Marty Knapp Completely free of copy protection is very different from the industry-standard per-user license keys I described, and not something I would advocate for any commercial product. In markets where piracy is an unusually serious consideration, server-based activation can provide reasonable control over license key redistribution. If smartly implemented with grace periods, phone home activation should pose no inconvenience to the end-user. But most successful products don't even do that, they merely use pre-generated keys. Per-user license keys have made Adobe, Microsoft, Apple, and most other software vendors quite profitable. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export image with graphic effect
Hello Vikram, You could use export snapshot with a portion of the card that the graphic is on. Mart Knapp Graphic effects, in themselves a great feature- cant be used outside the stack since the exported image strips the effects. It would be great if the image exported has the effect(s) applied. Is there any other way to do this? Where does one log in feature requests? Best regards Vikram ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to enter a time of day
Very cool Scott! Marty Knapp Recently, Peter Haworth wrote: I have a need for users to enter a start and end time of an event and I'm trying to come up with a graphical way for them to do that to ensure that the time is in the correct format. What appeals to me the most is to use some sort of slider that would increment/decrement the time of day in 15 minute intervals. I was hoping the rev slider control would be the answer to it but it only seems to deal with whole numbers on its scale, haven't been able to figure out how to deal with time-based numbers. Any recommendations on how to set about implementing this? This was a good interface challenge... Instead of using a standard slider, I think a dual slider would be a good solution (but this might depend on the actual time constraints of your day). Can't do this kind of thing with a stock slider however (you'd need two separate sliders). It also occurred to me that mini-calendars are the current de-facto standard for entering dates in forms, so how about a clock face for time entry? I posted an example online that shows both time entry options (don't ask me to explain the math). Execute the following in your Rev message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/timesettings.rev; Each set of controls relies on the behavior script that is present on the right side of the stack. Maybe one of these could work. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to enter a time of day
Hi Peter, I don't know if it would help, but I have a stack at RevOnline called Marty's Sliders that would give you more flexibility and could perhaps be adapted for your use. At the end of the mouseMove handler there's a line that computes a value and puts it into a field to in effect show the thumbPosition of the slider. Marty Knapp I have a need for users to enter a start and end time of an event and I'm trying to come up with a graphical way for them to do that to ensure that the time is in the correct format. What appeals to me the most is to use some sort of slider that would increment/decrement the time of day in 15 minute intervals. I was hoping the rev slider control would be the answer to it but it only seems to deal with whole numbers on its scale, haven't been able to figure out how to deal with time-based numbers. Any recommendations on how to set about implementing this? Pete Haworth ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Page numbers for marked cards for printing
Hi Charles, When you say mark card eligibility are you looking for a field with that word in it? If so then you want to do something like: mark cards where fld Status is eligibility or mark cards where eligibility is in fld Status If eligibility is a button that users can hilite then: mark cards where the hilite of button eligibility is true Now you can assign page numbers: if the number of marked cards =0 then beep answer No cards selected. else repeat with x = 1 to the number of marked cards put Page x into field PageNumber of marked card x end repeat end if --Do your printing then perhaps clean up when you're done: repeat with x=1 to the number of marked cards put empty into fld PageNumber of marked card x end repeat --and you may want to unmark cards for next time too I hope that clears things up, Marty Knapp Hi Mary! I have busy trying to finish up my project. As you know, the longer you work on a project there is an increased possibility of making some changes to it. I decided to add page numbers to my marked cards so the user could see them as they go through the cards. I tried the following in a preOpenCard script for card named eligibility: on preOpenCard mark card eligibility repeat with x = 1 to the number of marked cards put Page x into field PageNumber of marked card x end repeat end preOpenCard This script does not generates any errors but the field pageNumber does not get anything and remains blank. Any ideas or suggestions? On Jan 6, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Marty Knapp [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: I would place a field on each card that you can populate just before you print repeat with x=1 to the number of marked cards put Page x into fld PageNumber of marked card x end repeat --do your printing --then clear the field: repeat with x=1 to the number of marked cards put empty into fld PageNumber of marked card x end repeat I have been working on a project that uses marked cards based on an user's input. When the user selects a card or cards, they become marked for printing. I want to add a page number at the bottom when printing the marked cards. There are around 70 cards which makes it very difficult to include page numbers on the cards when printing since they may not be sequential. In my situation, only about 6 to 11 cards would been selected by the user. Has anybody developed a means of assigning page numbers to marked cards when printing them as marked cards? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
File name extensions
I'm working on an application (Mac only at the moment) and was wondering about file name extensions. I poked around and found web sites that list file name extensions, but is there someplace official to register or search? Or am I free to use whatever I want? I registered a creator code with Apple, but don't know what to do from there. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File name extensions
Thanks Mark - that's kind of what I thought. The four character idea sounds good. Marty Knapp Hi Marty, There are no official lists of file extensions. You are free to use whatever you want. The creator type registration at Apple is a relic from the past and you're free to ignore it, but I still think it is a good thing to register your new creator types there and to adhere to it. I often use 4-character file extensions to reduce the probability that the file extension is widely used by a different application already. Whatever 3-char combination you choose, someone has probably already used it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer TwistAWord supports Haiti. Buy a license for this word game at http://www.twistaword.net and support the earthquake victims. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Flash cookies
On the Global Privacy Settings you can deny access to your camera and microphone? Yikes - didn't know Flash could do that. Very disturbing if that is indeed the case. Marty At this site you can see all the flash cookies that have been stored on your computer. These cookies aren't cleaned out when you clear cookies. They get through even when you are private browsing with Firefox. I don't remember ever giving permission to any of the websites I see on my list. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev subdomain (main domain hosted elsewhere)
You could set up the subdomain with you current site, then re-direct to something hosted at On-Rev (though technically I don't think it could be a sub domain of you main domain) Or use frames? Marty Knapp Hi can anyone advise - I've posted to the forums and emailed support a couple of times, but no reply yet. I'd like to keep the main domain hosted elsewhere for a site, and then host a subdomain at on-rev. I can't figure out how to do this without transfering the whole top-level domain to On-Rev. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Page numbers for marked cards for printing
I would place a field on each card that you can populate just before you print repeat with x=1 to the number of marked cards put Page x into fld PageNumber of marked card x end repeat --do your printing --then clear the field: repeat with x=1 to the number of marked cards put empty into fld PageNumber of marked card x end repeat I have been working on a project that uses marked cards based on an user's input. When the user selects a card or cards, they become marked for printing. I want to add a page number at the bottom when printing the marked cards. There are around 70 cards which makes it very difficult to include page numbers on the cards when printing since they may not be sequential. In my situation, only about 6 to 11 cards would been selected by the user. Has anybody developed a means of assigning page numbers to marked cards when printing them as marked cards? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: EASY way to add n days to a date?
You can convert your date to dateItems. Then alter item 3 (day of the month) by adding to it, then convert back to whatever date format you want. Marty Knapp In FileMaker it is possible to add n (an integer) to a date to get a new date n days hence. Is there an EASY way to do this in Rev? (I don't mean setting the idemdel to / and fussing with the day/month/year digits.) Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: custom slider control
You might check out my Marty's Sliders in RevOnline. Marty Knapp This should be easy, but I'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around the clockworks for a simple custom vertical fader control. I want to change the look to a more life-like representation. Basic start, end and thumbposition properties, like the stock one. I mainly want to change the look of the knob. Anyone have a recipe ? The fake scrollbar examples have a lot of features I don't need, and are a bit complex to try and modify if one hasn't written it. Thanks in advance, sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: custom slider control
Hey Stephen - you're welcome, glad it worked out for you. Marty Marty, this is exactly what I needed. Very nicely done. thanks so much... sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/12/18 Marty Knapp martykn...@comcast.net You might check out my Marty's Sliders in RevOnline. Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PasteKey Bug?
I'm having trouble with the pasteKey message not being caught (I understand that it does not function in the IDE without suspending the development tools). I tried this twice - make 2 identical stacks, each with a field. In the field script I put: on pasteKey answer No pasting allowed end pasteKey Then take one of the stacks and install a menubar with the default settings. Script the cut - copy - paste commands with cut, copy paste respectively. Then suspend development tools, copy some text from somewhere and try to paste into the 2 stacks. The stack without the menubar catches the pasteKey message, but the stack with the menubar does not and the text is pasted. Is this a bug, or am I not understanding something? (This has been driving me crazy for a while) Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PasteKey Bug?
Thanks Mark for taking the time to try this, I'm on an Intel iMac running OS 10.5.8 and the latest version of Rev Studio. My menuPick handler for Paste is just paste. This is 100% repeatable for me, so far. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Marty Knapp Hi Marty, I don't know whether this is a bug or not, but I have no problem with calling the same handler from the pasteKey and the menuPick handler. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Full PayPal integration and automation in web site or (Revolution/SuperCard/other) software. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Op 17 dec 2009, om 17:35 heeft Marty Knapp het volgende geschreven: I'm having trouble with the pasteKey message not being caught (I understand that it does not function in the IDE without suspending the development tools). I tried this twice - make 2 identical stacks, each with a field. In the field script I put: on pasteKey answer No pasting allowed end pasteKey Then take one of the stacks and install a menubar with the default settings. Script the cut - copy - paste commands with cut, copy paste respectively. Then suspend development tools, copy some text from somewhere and try to paste into the 2 stacks. The stack without the menubar catches the pasteKey message, but the stack with the menubar does not and the text is pasted. Is this a bug, or am I not understanding something? (This has been driving me crazy for a while) Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PasteKey Bug?
That will do the trick for me. Sometimes I want to disallow pasting or check the contents of the clipboard before pasting (rather than testing the content of the field on exitfield). Thanks again Mark! Hi Marty, Your menuPick handler should call a handler named pasteIt and the pasteKey handler should do the same. Your pasteIt handler should do exactly the same what currently your pasteKey handler does. Apparently, sometimes you want to be able to paste and sometimes you don't. For this, you need to adjust your pasteIt handler, for example something like: on pasteIt if the short name of the selectedField is Forbidden Field then beep answer error Paste not allowed else paste end if end pasteIt If this isn't what you're trying to do, please explain more. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats
Safari 4.04, Firefox 3.5.5 - Mac 10.5.8 everything looks fine here Marty Knapp Please have a look at this: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/revletIMAGES.html and then SHARE with the use-list the following: Browser Operating System sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Data Tree 1.0
Nice job Steve! Marty Knapp Hi all, Further to my posts every now and then about beta versions, it's with great pleasure that I'm announcing the completion of my first commercial library for RunRev: Data Tree 1.0. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interesting blog post - comments anyone?
Personally, I felt no compulsion to defend Rev because they let us know there was a debate going on at slash dot. Neither was I offended by that. When I'm getting ready to make a purchase (software or otherwise) I very much want to read what real world users are saying about it (as opposed to paid PR) - what's so bad about that? And I will also say that there is much more of a community here than I've experienced in connection with any other software product. In this light, I did not find RunRev's enlistment out of line in the least. Marty Knapp The idea that the customer services manager of a company would enlist that company's own customers in a public debate over the merits of that company's product and the rather easy to debase claims it made of its product... Well it just feels a little icky. I am a huge fan of xtalk and any bridge that can be built between intent and the horrors of programming. That is a professional opinion, a philosophy. When I purchase a product, that decision, and the money that is exchanged is my argument for that product, and should be sufficient to pay for any PR the company uses to attract other customers. And to ask for help without explaining how that decision to ask for customer help was made (and why) or at a minimum also venturing your own attempt at the same debate seems a tad unfair. Choosing a tool, especially in programming where endless hours are eaten up thereafter, well that is argument in itself. Use it! Tell the world how many rev users there are. If someone, unabated, wants to defend your products in public debate, so be it. But to ask this of your own customers? If the product were free, and if you were an unpaid volunteer, well maybe. randall ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack conversion
Hello Rick, I don't know anything about ToolBook, but one thing I've done with some of my old WindowScript coding from my HyperCard days was to go in and copy the scripts (I used ResEdit I believe, as WindowScript was stored in the resource fork) and paste them into a text file with a quick note about where it came from (button, field, etc) then created a fresh Rev stack and pasted in the code from my text file. For me, most everything was fairly useful. Not a very elegant solution, but perhaps better than starting from scratch. FWIW, Marty Knapp Is there any way to convert a Tool-Book stack, app, executable, I'm not sure what the correct description is, into a Rev stack? I know it can not be done directly like a MC, HC or SC stack but, is there some sort of hack which would at least make the conversion a little more computer friendly rather than paper hostile? I have access to the standalone and the original build. The material was built using a recent but, not the most current version of Tool-Book. Thanks Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
The new plugin locks up both Firefox and Safari on my Mac (Leopard) requiring a force quit and the updater for Rev gets an error error,no_such_file and fails to update. Tried several times, rebooted. Anybody else having trouble? Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
I just did some preliminary tests, and it looks like stacks created with the Metal texture option applied will not work with the new plugin, though they did with the old plugin. Apparently that was the source of my trouble on that score. I have Rev Studio and my check for updates says that 4.0.0 dp-5 is available, but I get the error I reported previously (error,no_such_file). Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting the 'Open With'
You can open a specific document with a specific application like this: launch /MyDocumentsFolder/TheDocument.doc with /Applications/MyApp.app using the path of each. and assuming the the application is capable of opening it. Marty Knapp On kind of a related note, anybody know how to set a file to open with a certain application? This is manually done with the Get Info window on the Mac but I need to do this from within a script. Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Weird stack appearing
Well I've probably been drinking my bath water, but . . . I keep finding a stack with the name rces/PrinterInfo.xml in the same folder as a stack I've been working on. When I open the oddly named stack, its contents are the stack that I'm working on. I'll delete the weirdly named stack, only to find it again soon. For the life of me I cannot figure out what I might be doing wrong. I am doing a lot of print testing. I'm also using this stack as a template for other stacks. Anyone else had this happen? I'm on a Mac, latest OS and version 4 of Rev Studio. Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Installer Standalone Settings
I'm getting ready to distribute a Mac only standalone that has some stacks that I'll need to put into a folder within the Application support folder. Would it be a good choice to make my own installer program with Rev and suck up the App and all needed stacks into custom properties, then upon installation place things where I need? I'll be using the splash screen style standalone along with with these various stacks, and there will be stacks that the user will create with the program - do I keep the .rev extension on these stacks or use something else? Are there rules or suggestions related to this? I assume that the Document Type, Document Extension and Signature fields in the Standalone settings (OSX pane) are for this purpose, though I don't see anything about these in the docs, nor could I find anything on this elsewhere. My current testing shows that stacks saved from my Rev built standalone and using the .rev extension show as Metacard Stacks when I get info on them, and the Open with menu shows a program that I downloaded some time back that was apparently created as a Metacard standalone . . . I do have other Rev created standalones on my drive but the Finder doesn't think they're the owner of my test stacks. Kinda strange . . . At any rate, thanks for any input and suggestions. Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Barcode-related stack?
Hi Judy, Sarah Reichelt has a couple of stacks here: http://www.troz.net/Rev/misc.php HTH, Marty Knapp I could have sworn that the old revOnline had a stack related to barcodes in some manner. But now I can't find it and find the new revOnline pretty but regrettably unusable. I have a former student who now works in our disabilities solutions center who wants to do something tying together a barcode scanner (I think) or a tablet PC and Rev (which he actually found on his own, having harbored a fondness for HC). If anyone could point me in the right directions I'd be appreciative; if it works, I'll bet the nearly locked-in faculty member would be even more appreciative :-) Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev
Hey Alex, You'll need to register a domain name with a registrar - many people here have recommended GoDaddy, which is what I use. Let's say you register alextweedly.com Then you edit the Nameserver setting with the registrar so that it points to On-Rev with the info that On-Rev provides, which is probably: ns1.on-rev.com ns2.on-rev.com Then you can create an Add-on domain in your On-Rev control panel with the name you registered. Place your web site files in this new directory. Within a short while everything should sync up and requests for alextweedly.com will bring visitors to your On-Rev hosted site. And with On-Rev you can host unlimited sites. A freebie you get with On-Rev is a user space with your account name, like alextweedly.on-rev.com. You can host a site at this address without further registration. HTH, Marty Knapp Sarah Reichelt wrote: I have signed up as troz.on-rev.com. I own the domain troz.net and plan to re-locate it's hosting, but I wanted to test it out before changing the DNS entries. I created a sub-domain troz.troz.on-rev.com so I could migrate my site test it, before changing it to an AddOn domain and altering the DNS. Could you expand slightly on how you do this ? I (think I) unerstand most of it - create a sub-domain - copy files over - test it But how do you change a sub-domain to an AddOn domain ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sheets at the bottom and the sides?
For a sheet effect inside the card window, I fake it using a group of buttons, fields and a background image and moving it on/off screen. You can slide it in from any side and works on all platforms. Marty Knapp 2009/5/13 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com It is easy to open a substack as a sheet inside another stack. The sheet appears at the top of the parent stack as a drop-down dialogue box. Is there a way to make the sheet appear at the bottom or at one of the sides of the parent stack? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack updater
I tried it with Rev 3 with the same error. It happens when I first open the stack, before I try to use it, so protected stacks aren't an issue. I tried opening it directly and as a plugin (didn't know if that would make a difference) - same result. Thanks Jim, Marty Hi Marty, :-( It's been tested from 2.8.1 to 3.0 on Mac and I've run it on 3.5 on PC and many others have used this stack and never reported this error. Would you be so kind as to back up to Rev 3.0 and tell me if you get the same error? Also, please try downloading again. Otherwise, I'll dig into the code. Other question. Do you have any protected stacks in the projects you are comparing? If so, they need to be unprotected first. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Marty Knapp Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:53 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Stack updater I have Rev 3.5.0 build 870 running on Mac OS 10.5.6 Thanks Jim, Marty Hi Marty, I downloaded the stack, but get this error on openstack: stack Changed Code Picker: execution error at line 140 (Chunk: no such object) near script, char 34 What version of Rev are you running and on which platform? Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack updater
I'm on an Intel iMac if that could possibly make a difference. Eric was an amazing guy. Not only did he create great software, but his code was even beautiful to look at! Marty I just tried CCP with a G5, Leopard 10 5 6, rev 3.5 rc-2, GLX2 used as a plugin ... seemed to work fine for me. More than just fine wonderful... works great. Bravo to the late Eric; the guy could really code responsibly and creatively. The two stacks were identical and it reported that fact. I will try on my intel. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack updater
Jim, Here's the offending line: put the effective textfont of fld script of stack revNewScriptEditor into tFont and the error it's throwing: stack Changed Code Picker: execution error at line 140 (Chunk: no such object) near script, char 34 I commented this line (and line 141- effecting the font size) and it seems to work fine. I'm just using the default script editor, not GLX. Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack updater
Thanks Jim - will do. Obviously I meant to say revNewScriptEditor is a rev stack... ;-) Hi Marty, Ahh... OK, well that explains everything! ;-) revTemplateScriptEditor is a rev stack and only seems to exist in Rev 3.0. Prior there was a revTemplateScriptEditor. Neither exist in 3.5. The intention here is to set to the font that the user prefers for editing. So, this raised the question of why I and others are not getting the error and you are. ;-) Just a special talent that I possess! Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stack updater
I'm putting together an updater stack whose purpose will be to take two stack of identical structure and update the button and field scripts from the source stack and copy them them to the destination stack. What I'm doing now is to open both the source and destination stack and going back and forth, updating the script of the buttons and fields one at a time. Then saving and closing when it's done. But if I have a set of stacks that have substacks (which I may or may not want to update) I know that Rev doesn't like to have two stacks with the same name open at the same time, should I, for example, get the script of button 1 of stack 1, close it, go to stack 2 and update the script of button 1, save and close, etc until everything is updated, or is there a better suggestion? Thanks for any help, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack updater
Thanks Jim, I downloaded the stack, but get this error on openstack: stack Changed Code Picker: execution error at line 140 (Chunk: no such object) near script, char 34 Marty Knapp Hi Marty, Please take a look at Changed Code Picker, fourth one down on: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolutionl=en It's free and it opens and compares all scripts of two identical stacks and lets you move selected code of a reference stack to your newer stack. If you want to move all code of one stack to another, just clone the stack. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Marty Knapp Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:25 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Stack updater I'm putting together an updater stack whose purpose will be to take two stack of identical structure and update the button and field scripts from the source stack and copy them them to the destination stack. What I'm doing now is to open both the source and destination stack and going back and forth, updating the script of the buttons and fields one at a time. Then saving and closing when it's done. But if I have a set of stacks that have substacks (which I may or may not want to update) I know that Rev doesn't like to have two stacks with the same name open at the same time, should I, for example, get the script of button 1 of stack 1, close it, go to stack 2 and update the script of button 1, save and close, etc until everything is updated, or is there a better suggestion? Thanks for any help, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack updater
I have Rev 3.5.0 build 870 running on Mac OS 10.5.6 Thanks Jim, Marty Hi Marty, I downloaded the stack, but get this error on openstack: stack Changed Code Picker: execution error at line 140 (Chunk: no such object) near script, char 34 What version of Rev are you running and on which platform? Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save Data to stack inside Standalone - Broken?
I just threw together a program with a substack, set the Standalone settings for the substack to to moved to individual stackfiles create folder for stackfiles (named mine MyResources) and it saved the data in the substack just fine. This is on Rev 3.5 and Mac 10.5.6 Marty Knapp On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org wrote: I know this has been asked and answered but I thought for sure if you put a stack inside a standalone, separate from the standalone, that you could save data in that stack. I made the usual standalone splash loader that boots an adjacent stack then hides itself mahaLexiconLoader.app/ Contents/ info.plist MacS/ Externals/ lexicon.rev MahaLexiconLoader # the stand alone launcher-splash screen Pkginfo Plugins/ Resources/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
test - ignore
Please ignore - this is a test. I'm moving my domains and mail to my new On-Rev account. Marty K ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RapidWeaver
This is slightly off topic, but as there's been a lot of posts about On-Rev I thought that I'd let all you Mac users know that there's a sale on RapidWeaver at Smith Micro (I have no connection with either business). This web site creation software normally sells for $79.99 US, but you can get it for $29.99 at the moment. While the posted price is 79.99, once you click the Buy Now button and go to your shopping cart it's listed with the $50 discount (as of me checking just a few minutes ago). RapidWeaver is a template based tool, so is great for non-designers, though it's Mac only http://my.smithmicro.com/mac/rapidweaver/index.html For what it's worth, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline server unavailable
I signed up for a new account, received a password, but can't get in, I get a Couldn't connect to server, please try again later. message too. Marty Knapp George, I had the same thing happen. You need to set up a new account with a new password. Then it'll connect you. Joe Wilkins On Apr 11, 2009, at 1:52 PM, George C Brackett wrote: I've tried several times yesterday and today to log in to the RevOnline server, and each time get a Couldn't connect to server, please try again later. message. Am I missing something, such as a schedule for the server or a warning that it's not yet really online? I notice that others have uploaded stacks., and I'd like to put up the few of mine that might be useful to people. The new system looks really helpful! George ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating htpasswd compatible passwords
Just got back from a trade show (National Association of Corrosion
Engineers - sound exciting?!) I'll download your library and tinker with it.
Thanks Mark.
Marty Knapp
In fact, ig (and a verify function).
It's at: http://futsoft.futilism.com/revolutionstuff.html
best,
Mark
On 22 Mar 2009, at 14:53, Mark Smith wrote:
If the sha1 type is acceptable, you can use either my sha1
implementation or the openssl command line to generate a sha1 digest
of the password to end up with this form:
username:{SHA}W6ph5Mm5Pz8GgiULbPgzG37mj9g= (simple)
username:{SSHA}sVp7Y6h1ZtYAvp3UbsbZlQYACaU= (salted, more secure)
if you were going to use my sha1 (libHash-Hmac) then you could do this
function htpasswd.sha1 pPword
return {SHA} sha1.b64(pPword)
end htpasswd.sha1
function htpasswd.sha1.salted pPword
put numtochar(random(255)) numtochar(random(255)) into tSalt
return {SSHA} sha1.b64(pPword tSalt) base64encode(tSalt)
end htpasswd.sha1.salted
In fact, I might add those to the library.
Best,
Mark
On 22 Mar 2009, at 00:35, Marty Knapp wrote:
Has anyone used Rev to create encrypted passwords that are
compatible with htpasswd to protect areas of your web site? I know
absolutely nothing about encryption. I've spent a few hours poking
around the internet trying to find something that I can use for a
utility I need to make. I found lots of web sites that will generate
an encrypted password, but I don't really want to go that route.
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Re: Creating htpasswd compatible passwords
Thanks Matthias, Sarah and others. I'm going to be away from the office (and email) for a week, so I'll give this some more attention when I return. Perhaps there'll be some more input by then as well. Marty Hi Marty, i was looking also for a solution some time ago. As far as i know, Revolution cannot create such passwords on without external help. Please anyone correct me, if i am wrong. For a customer i created an app, which helps him to create and protect folders. The complete app creates/modifies/deletes the .htacess and the .htpasswd files for him. This is how i solved the password creation: 1. I created a php-file with the following content e.g: __ ?php // set password echo Password created; echobr ; echo crypt($pass , 'sa'); //you can replaces ´sa´ with whatever 2 characters you want ? _ This php file was put on the customers webserver. 2. the following lines call the php-script and passes the real text-password to the php, which then returns 2 lines. In the second line there is the encrypted password. To be sure, that the php was executed correctly, i check for Password created in line 1. put URL (http://www.revolutionatwork.com/passwordcreate.php?pass=; sPassword) into sOutput if line 1 of sOutput is Password created then put line 2 of sOutput into sEncryptedPassword _ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Creating htpasswd compatible passwords
Has anyone used Rev to create encrypted passwords that are compatible with htpasswd to protect areas of your web site? I know absolutely nothing about encryption. I've spent a few hours poking around the internet trying to find something that I can use for a utility I need to make. I found lots of web sites that will generate an encrypted password, but I don't really want to go that route. Thanks for any help, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone saving
Hi Craig, If I'm understanding what you're saying, you need to make stack B a separate stack as opposed to a substack. Then you should be able to save data in B. This is because B and C are a part of A and A cannot save changes to itself. Marty Knapp I cannot save a standalone. In Rev, I have a mainstack A with two substacks B, and C. I am trying to make a standalone of this file, and be able to save stuff on B. The file seems correct, both B and C give A as their mainstack if I ask, and the file is definitely A. I make the standalone. I get a file A. No dialogs, nothing fancy. I use the stack A, as recommended, as an introductory screen and go right to B. I add data to a field on B. Nothing I do seems to save the data on B. If I close the standalone and then reopen, all my data is lost. I invoke all sorts of save commands all over the file, especially in B. Nada. Dammit. Thanks again... Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Slider little button in OS X
If you want to make sliders that look however you want (and are the same in appearance cross-platform) check out my stack on Rev Online: Username: MartyKnapp. The stack is Martys Sliders. The script is commented so that you can make changes as you need. You will have to add the actual function of the slider yourself. It has the ability to show or not show values - positive and/or negative. For what it's worth. Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev on Ubuntu
Thanks to all who gave me input on using Rev on Ubuntu, I appreciate it. Richmond, could you elaborate on these two point: 3. Never churn out generic Linux standalones from a version of Runtime Revolution working on another platform. 4. Always compile standalones on the target platform. I've successfully produced Windows standalones from my Mac (though very few). Has your experience shown that with the various flavors of Linux that this doesn't work well? Unfortunately I only have Rev Studio for Mac. Thanks again, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev on Ubuntu
Well, I've been thinking about tinkering with Linux + Revolution for a while and recently ran into an old friend who's a big Linux fan. He recommended that I install Ubuntu (I'm using Parallels on an Intel iMac) and the K Desktop Environment. I haver successfully installed Ubuntu but thought I'd ask here about KDE. I want to try some Rev projects on Linux and wondered what folks here would recommend. I've been a Mac guys since the 80s and know absolutely nothing about Linux. Any recommendations for me? I also hope to introduce my friend and the local Linux user group to Revolution. Thanks for any input, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Backup sort of thing?
I use Chipp's AltArchive - it's a great little plugin for making incremental backups. www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginDownload/Downloads.htm Marty Knapp Hi Richard, I made an App in which customers and clothes are stored (all on their own card). I wanted a way to backup the 'store' in TXT files but today I decided to backup the whole stack on closing the App. It is primarily needed as backup in case the 'store' gets corrupted. Any ideas are welcome! Greetings, William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
End of line problem
I have a stack from which I create a text file that has to be uploaded to a server. The file can be either a tab or comma delimited file. I’m creating it in Rev 3.0 Studio on my iMac with 10.5.5. I’m getting an error that I’ve traced to an end-of-line problem. The file looks fine on my Mac but when I move it over to Windows XP and open it with Notepad it doesn’t recognize my line endings (though Wordpad does). The file shows the little square block when the line end character should be, which I assume means it's a character it doesn't recognize. I’ve tried CR, CRLF and LF. If I fix the line ends in Notepad the file then uploads properly. I’m stumped . . . Thanks for any help, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: End of line problem
Thank you Sarah, I'll give that a try! Marty On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Marty Knapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a stack from which I create a text file that has to be uploaded to a server. The file can be either a tab or comma delimited file. I'm creating it in Rev 3.0 Studio on my iMac with 10.5.5. I'm getting an error that I've traced to an end-of-line problem. The file looks fine on my Mac but when I move it over to Windows XP and open it with Notepad it doesn't recognize my line endings (though Wordpad does). The file shows the little square block when the line end character should be, which I assume means it's a character it doesn't recognize. I've tried CR, CRLF and LF. If I fix the line ends in Notepad the file then uploads properly. I'm stumped . . . You are being punished by the fact that each system has it's own way of describing line feeds. Check out the docs for the return constant for more info. When Rev reads or writes a text file, it converts automatically, so you always get the right line endings for whatever system produced the file. If you have to specify a particular line ending, then you have to alter them manually, and save as a binary file, not a text file. To save a file for Windows (that uses CRLF), you will need something like this: replace cr with CRLF in tData put tData into URL (binfile:WindowsData.txt) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contextual Menus
Bill I've done this using the target function and a mouseDown handler in a card or stack script. Marty Knapp OK. So with the help of a few great people on this list I now can do popup contextual menus for fields. Thank you. A user suggested that pretty much every field (regular text field) should be able to have a contextual menu for Cut, Copy, and Paste at a minimum. How would I add this feature to all my editable fields? I can do them one at a time but that would be pretty tedious. There must be a more global way to do it. Bill On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: If you just want to operate on the text, you can do things like copy the selection. Actually (she said, replying to herself) it's even easier than that. Rev already knows what's selected, so if you are just using the basic editing commands, all you need in a menupick is this: on menupick pwhich switch pwhich case copy copy break case paste paste break case delete delete break default end switch end menupick -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN][EN][FR] Tutorial #25 by So Smart Software
Thank you Eric for all your great contributions to the Revolution community. I've used your tutorials many times. They're a great inspiration for great coding (especially for hacks like me!). Marty Knapp I'm happy to announce that How to implement clever auto-completion in entry boxes, 25th tutorial for Revolution is available: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Number of display lines on a Option Menu
I checked my copy of Rev 2.8.1 (on Mac 10.5.1) and the property inspector does not show this. I fired up Rev 2.6.1 and there it does show the option to select the number of displayed menu items. FWIW, Marty Knapp Hi Mark, What Preference page is it on and what is the name of the Preference property? I don't see this property on the Inspector for the Option button - it's just not there. I do see the following properties: text (a list of the options to display) and menuName. These are radio buttons. Am I missing something? And if this is missing, what else am I missing? Thanx, Mark Stuart Mark Wieder wrote: Mark- Depending on how you have your preferences set, the Property Inspector will display this as menuLines or as Display x items. It's right under the list of Menu Items. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: (mac) application menu
This was driving me crazy too. After messing around with it, I pieced the following together and it's worked for me (I am using Rev 2.6.1): on appleEvent pClass,pID,pSender --I got this from Ken Ray's web site switch (pClass pID) case aevtquit answer Save changes? with Don't Save or Save if it is Save then doSaveStuff pass appleEvent else pass appleEvent break default pass appleEvent break end switch end appleEvent on closeStackrequest Global homeStack if the short name of this stack is homeStack then answer Save changes? with Don't Save or Save if it is Save then doSaveStuff end if end if pass closeStackrequest end closeStackrequest on shutdownRequest --I only use this for Windows Global homeStack if the platform contains Win then if the short name of this stack is homeStack then answer Save changes? with Don't Save or Save if it is Save then doSaveStuff end if end if end if pass shutdownRequest end shutdownRequest Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: (mac) application menu
In my experience, capturing the shutDownRequest on a Mac is not reliable. For me it works most of the time, but then it gets me about 1 time out of ten. I've implemented the AppleEvent solution (thanks to Ken Ray) and that has been 100% reliable. Marty Knapp Couldn't he just capture shutDownRequest? on shutDownRequest cleanUpStuff end shutDownRequest on cleanUpStuff # do all your special quit things here quit # actually quits when you're done saving or changing or whatever end cleanUpStuff or... on cleanUpStuff # do all your special quit things here pass shutDownRequest # let's Rev handle the shutDownRequest and quit as it normally would end cleanUpStuff Hi Peter, I'm not sure about Problem 2 but regarding Problem 1, you need to trap an AppleEvent in order for a standalone to perform some activities before quitting. For example, put this script in your main stack script and when theClass = aevt and theID = quit, you can successfully trap the program before it quits. eg. on appleEvent theClass,theID if theClass = aevt and theID = quit then -- do something quit end if end appleEvent Best Regards, Mike ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
