Re: xmltree-view and unicode
Joel, thanks a lot for the script you provided. I hate to be a pain in the neck, but I don't know how to integrate it with the xml-tree view stack. If you could give me some additional hints, I'd be really grateful. All best, Toma On Apr 28, 2004, at 8:20 AM, Jol Guillod wrote: Toma , Try the following script from my XML Utility Library. Any comments and enhancements wellcome! -- /** MedIPS Concept Implementation @author Joel Guillod @copyright Joel Guillod @version 1.0 @created 2003.08.29 @modified 2004.03.16 @url http://www.imed.ch/rev @url mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * */ constant kAttributeNotFound = XMLerr, can't find attribute /** @usage if xml.IsXMLErr(result()) then processError @returns true when error occured with last XMLhandler (e.g. revCreateXMLTreeFromFile, etc). */ function xml.IsXMLErr @rpResult if item 1 of rpResult is XMLerr then return true else return false end xml.IsXMLErr /** @usage put xml.tagForPath(aNode) into myTag @sample put xml.tagForPath(/address/name[2]) into myTag -- = name @returns the most bottom tag of the node path. */ function xml.tagForPath selectednode set the itemdel to / get last item of selectednode set the itemdel to [ return item 1 of it end xml.tagForPath /** get xml.textToUTF8(aString) @purpose Converts a revolution string to a UTF8 string and returns it. */ function xml.textToUTF8 aString return unidecode(uniencode(aString),UTF8) end xml.textToUTF8 /** get xml.UTF8ToText(utf8String) @purpose Converts a UTF8 string to a revolution string and returns it. */ function xml.UTF8ToText utf8String return unidecode(uniencode(utf8String,UTF8)) end xml.UTF8ToText /** return xml.returnMsgAfterDeleteXmlTree(pXmlID,pMsg) @sample if tActionNode is empty or xml.IsXMLErr(tActionNode) then return xml.returnMsgAfterDeleteXmlTree(tXmlID,next xml node not found: tActionNode) */ function xml.returnMsgAfterDeleteXmlTree pXmlID,pMsg revDeleteXMLTree pXmlID return pMsg end xml.returnMsgAfterDeleteXmlTree /** xml.utf8.setAttribute treeID,node,attributeName,aValue @purpose Equivalent to: revSetXMLAttribute treeID,node,attributeName,xml.textToUTF8(aValue) @param aValue is a the text of a revolution field. */ on xml.utf8.setAttribute treeID,node,attributeName,aValue revSetXMLAttribute treeID,node,attributeName,xml.textToUTF8(aValue) return result() end xml.utf8.setAttribute /** get xml.utf8.Attribute(treeID,node,attributeName) @purpose Equivalent to: xml.UTF8ToText(revXMLAttribute(treeID,node,attributeName)) @returns is the standard text for revolution. */ function xml.utf8.attribute treeID,node,attributeName return xml.UTF8ToText(revXMLAttribute(treeID,node,attributeName)) end xml.utf8.attribute /** xml.utf8.AddNode treeID,parentPath,nodeName,nodeContents @purpose Equivalent to: revAddXMLNode treeID,parentPath,nodeName,xml.textToUTF8(nodeContents) @param nodeContents is a the text of a revolution field. @returns Error description or node path. */ on xml.utf8.AddNode treeID,parentPath,nodeName,nodeContents revAddXMLNode treeID,parentPath,nodeName,xml.textToUTF8(nodeContents) return result() end xml.utf8.AddNode /** xml.utf8.SetNodeContents treeID,node,nodeContents @purpose Equivalent to: evXMLPutIntoXMLNode treeID,node,xml.textToUTF8(nodeContents) @param nodeContents is a the text of a revolution field. @returns Error description or node path. */ on xml.utf8.SetNodeContents treeID,node,nodeContents get xml.textToUTF8(nodeContents) revPutIntoXMLNode treeID,node,it return result() end xml.utf8.SetNodeContents /** get xml.utf8.NodeContents(treeID,node,attributeName) @purpose Equivalent to: xml.UTF8ToText(revXMLNodeContents(treeID,node)) */ function xml.utf8.NodeContents treeID,node return xml.UTF8ToText(revXMLNodeContents(treeID,node)) end xml.utf8.NodeContents /**put xml.utf8.createTree(pRootTag) into tXmlTreeID @purpose To create an xml tree with only the root tag. @purpose Then can revAppendXML, revSetXMLAttribute, revSetXMLAttribute, revXMLPutIntoXMLNode, to complete the tree. */ function xml.utf8.createTree pRootTag return revCreateXMLTree(?xml version=quote1.0quote encoding=quoteutf-8quote? \ pRootTag / pRootTag ,false,true,false) end xml.utf8.createTree /** @usage put xml.enclosedTextWithTag(aText,aTag) after myStream @results is aTagaText/aTag */ function xml.enclosedTextWithTag aText,aTag return merge([[aTag]][[aText]]/[[aTag]]) end xml.enclosedTextWithTag /** @usage xml.appendToStream aStream,aText */ on xml.appendToStream @aStream,@aText put aText after aStream end xml.appendToStream -- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
xmltree-view and unicode
Hi there. Has anybody by any chance reworked the xml tree stack that comes with Revolution to work with Unicode? The way this stack is written right now, it cannot display utf8 strings. Now, I've tried to play around with it, change the fonts and the load xml file button to load the uniencoded xml file, but I still can't get it to work. I either get Japanese mumbo-jumbo (I still can't get over the fact that Revolution loves CJK characters more than anything else in the world) or I get xmlerr, bad document id... Could somebody please help me out with this? I'd be enormously grateful. All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: callbacks only work first time a player is used - workaround
Eric, this is already in Bugzilla (#112), Tuviah fixed it at some point, but then had to un-fix it because it broke something else... T. On Apr 1, 2004, at 11:44 AM, Eric Peden wrote: I just filed a bug report for this, but thought I'd send it to the list as well in case anyone else had run into the problem. Callbacks set on a player are only called the first time the movie is played. I ran into the problem earlier today, and identified a workaround: setting the callbacks property allows callbacks to be sent again. However, if the movie is replayed, they stop again, so the fix is to reset them every chance you get: -- in the player's script on [playPaused, playStopped, or currentTimeChanged] set the callbacks of me to the callbacks of me end You also have to perform this reset whenever you set the currentTime of a player. The problem was first described here: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-July/018539.html and the Bugzilla entry is: http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi? id=1448 The poster linked to above was running OS X, but the problem has shown up for us on Windows, too. Anyone else run into this? Any suggestions for a more elegant way to reset the callbacks without intercepting a bunch of messages? -- eric ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Panther upgrade wrecks stack bindings
did u try selecting a .rev file, invoking the info palette (apple-I), selecting Revolution 2.1.2 under open with and making sure you pressed the Change All... button as well? On Feb 20, 2004, at 9:40 PM, Jim Lyons wrote: I am not a happy camper today. After upgrading to Panther last night, and being disappointed by a number of other OT things, now double-clicking my stacks won't launch my latest version (2.1.2) of Revolution. (Dragging them to the Rev icon or opening from Rev still works fine.) After the upgrade, they launched the 2.0 version I still had in the applications folder instead. I tried resaving a stack under the new version, but double-clicking that stack still launched the old version. So I put the old version in the trash and tried it again. This time I got an unexpected error dialog and no launch at all. Then I tried control-clicking a stack and choosing Revolution 2.1 from the Open With... menu; that worked, so I quit and tried double-clicking again. Now it wants to start up the OS9 environment and launch the fat version of 2.1! I restarted the system hoping that would straighten things out. Well, now a few stacks have the normal Rev icon and do open 2.1 -- all of them are downloaded stacks. All the stacks I made and saved with 2.1 (and a few other downloaded stacks) now have the fat icon and they want to run MacOSFat version under Classic when double-clicked. Argh!!! Can any fellow mac types out there help me straighten this mess out? Thanks... Jim Lyons 8^( ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
mysqldump --xml Rev Unicode [was: XML tree-view as a database frontend in Rev?]
On Feb 11, 2004, at 6:04 PM, Alex Rice wrote: Anyways that's not exactly what you were asking. I don't think I asked the right thing either... :) There's an easy way to get the database content as an xml tree -- using mysqldump. But here I'm encountering a Unicode difficulty again... I use the shell of /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump -u root --xml xmlprep to retrieve the xmldump of my database. The database and the mysqldump are utf8, my stack's main font is set to Lucida Grande, Unicode, yet I see no way of displaying the dump properly, let alone parsing it etc... put the shell of /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump -u root --xml xmlprep entry into xmldata put xmldata into fld showXMLTree -- displays CJK mumbojumbo (naturally, since the stacks text font is Unicode) put the shell of /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump -u root --xml xmlprep entry into xmldata put uniencode(xmldata, utf8) into fld showXMLTree -- displays all the xml tags correctly, but the database content is still mumbojumbo (not CJK though) How should one deal with this? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
inactive (?) sheets, buttons not responding
I haven't noticed this before, so I am not sure what's going on: I have a stack which opens as sheet and has two buttons on it. Clicking on a button does not produce any effect unless one first clicks on the card itself, or unless one clicks on the button twice... i.e. the sheet does not seem to be active. Any ideas? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
search fields (as in Finder, Safari, iTunes)
Can we make custom-shaped text fields in Rev? I would like to have a search field that looks like the OS X search field in Finder, google field in Safari etc., i.e. a field which is semicircular at both ends. Clicking on this kind field should focus on its entire border, i.e. the blue line should go around the entire field. All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Bitstream VERA font, the first truely crossplatform solution
the fonts HAVE been released, you were just looking at the wrong place http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ On Feb 7, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Ian Wood wrote: It looks very readable, but note the phrase 'will be released'. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
placeholders in mySQL queries
Hello everybody. Does anybody have any idea why this works: global tDatabaseID global tFormID on mouseUp put unidecode (char 1 to -1 of fld pronunciation, utf8) into updatedPronunciation put UPDATE entry SET entry.pronunciation =:1 WHERE entry.formID ='4' into tQuery revExecuteSQL tDatabaseID,tQuery,updatedPronunciation put the result end mouseUp BUT why using two placeholders instead of one does not global tDatabaseID global tFormID on mouseUp put unidecode (char 1 to -1 of fld pronunciation, utf8) into updatedPronunciation put UPDATE entry SET entry.pronunciation =:1 WHERE entry.formID =:2 into tQuery revExecuteSQL tDatabaseID,tQuery,updatedPronunciation, tFormID put the result end mouseUp In the second case, even though tFormID evaluates to 4, making it exactly the same as the first example, the result is always 0, and no update is being made. All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla downloads html files?
Mozilla unfortunately does NOT work with Safari. Try Netscape 7 on OS X instead. On Dec 8, 2003, at 7:26 PM, David Egbert wrote: Whenever I try to search for existing bugs in Bugzilla, Safari is downloading the files to my desktop instead of viewing them in the browser. Is this a known problem? Is there a tweak I need to do on Safari? Regards, -- Dave Egbert ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode revisited, this time with htmlText
That was exactly my point, Alex. I don't quite understand what Tuviah had in mind -- it may well be that at the level of the HTML browser engine there is a lot of conversion going on -- but I was speaking from the point of the developer who uses Unicode in HTML. All it takes is specifying the charset as say utf-8 and that's it... no charToNum, no worries about non ASCII, nothing... Tuviah, if you have a moment, please explain this to me, I'd really like to understand what the problem is. As I said in my previous mail and in the enhancement request which got a won't fix from you -- the way Revolution handles Unicode in HTML is a serious impediment for those working with foreign languages... All best, Toma On Nov 22, 2003, at 6:58 AM, Alex Rice wrote: Not true in practice. The encoding of HTML can be specified in the HTTP Content-type header from the web server, or in a META tag in the HTML itself (yet in the HTML itself) Read this article that was posted to improve-rev recently: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html On Nov 21, 2003, at 5:03 PM, tuviah snyder wrote: Well that's the way you specify unicode characters in the HTML spec. Any other way would have byteorder issues, associating with it, and would require binary data be embedded into HTML which is supposed be plain text. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode revisited, this time with htmlText
Thanks for the explanation, Tuviah. I know now how to do it, but I still think this is horrendously impractical. As I said, if I'm getting Unicode strings from mySQL and want to display them as htmlText -- I would have to convert every single character to its charToNum: that's not very efficient at all. I know that I am definitely NOT objective since my programming in Revolution has to do exclusively with foreign languages and non English scripts at the moment, but I strongly believe that an application which claims Unicode support needs to make it equally easy for programmers to deal with all languages/scripts... that's the point of Unicode, after all. All best, Toma On Nov 19, 2003, at 7:49 PM, tuviah snyder wrote: I think there should be a way of setting the basic html styling of Unicode text without having to import it from a text file and move it between the two fields. You should be able to generate the correct codes using chartonum, and setting useunicode to true. Tuviah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode revisited, this time with htmlText
As usual, I have a question about Unicode :) I have a text field whose
(BtextFont is set to "Lucida Grande", Unicode. I am using the message
(Bbox to get some html text in it -- and I can't get it to work properly.
(B The Transcript Dictionary entry for htmlText says that the lang
(Battribute and ability to encode Unicode characters was added in 2.0 but
(Bdoes not go into great detail explain how that is to be done.
(B
(Bset the htmlText of field "Field 1" to "bhello/b"-- produces
(BCJK gibberish
(Bset the htmlText of field "Field 1" to uniencode("bhello/b",
(B"utf8") -- produces different CJK gibberish
(B
(BTrying the same with a Cyrillic string:
(B
(Bset the htmlText of field "Field 1" to "b$B'U'`'R'Q'b(B $B'U'Q'_(B/b" -- correctly
(Bdisplays the first word, second word is gibberish
(Bset the htmlText of field "Field 1" to uniencode("b$B'U'`'R'Q'b(B $B'U'Q'_(B/b",
(B"utf8") -- displays complete gibberish
(B
(BSO: what would be the correct syntax for displaying Unicode in
(BhtmlText? and how do I make sure that both English and non-English
(Bstrings are displayed properly?
(B
(BAll best,
(BToma
(B
(B
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Re: Unicode revisited, this time with htmlText
Thanks, Klaus!
(B
(Bbut I am still not quite clear whether the fact that I cannot set
(BUnicode htmlText from the message box is a bug or a consequence of my
(Bnot getting the syntax right. I think there should be a way of setting
(Bthe basic html styling of Unicode text without having to import it from
(Ba text file and move it between the two fields.
(B
(BMore specifically, I am playing now with the display possibilities of
(BUnicode strings that I'm getting from a mySQL database. Since I'm
(Bgetting different strings from two different tables and several
(Bdifferent columns, but displaying them all in one text field, it would
(Bmake the most sense if I could script the html tags such as b, i,
(Bfont color etc... to get a fabulously styled and deligtfully elegant
(Bdisplay of my information... :)
(B
(BOn Nov 19, 2003, at 5:07 PM, Klaus Major wrote:
(B
(B HTMLtext works for me here, but only via another field.
(B
(B I saved your example in TextEdit as plain-text (coding UTF16, when set
(B to UTF8, all the text turns to "chinese" in RR?),
(B and imported it into a field
(B ...
(B set the unicodetext of fld 1 to url("binfile:toma.txt")
(B ...
(B
(B And could then set the htmltext of any field to any chunk of that
(B field like
(B
(B set the htmltext of fld 2 to the htmltext of line 1 of fld 1
(B
(B On Nov 19, 2003, at 12:24 PM, Toma Tasovac wrote:
(B
(B As usual, I have a question about Unicode :) I have a text field
(B whose textFont is set to "Lucida Grande", Unicode. I am using the
(B message box to get some html text in it -- and I can't get it to work
(B properly. The Transcript Dictionary entry for htmlText says that the
(B lang attribute and ability to encode Unicode characters was added in
(B 2.0 but does not go into great detail explain how that is to be done.
(B
(B set the htmlText of field "Field 1" to "bhello/b"-- produces
(B CJK gibberish
(B set the htmlText of field "Field 1" to uniencode("bhello/b",
(B "utf8") -- produces different CJK gibberish
(B
(B Trying the same with a Cyrillic string:
(B
(B set the htmlText of field "Field 1" to "b$B'U'`'R'Q'b(B $B'U'Q'_(B/b" --
(B correctly displays the first word, second word is gibberish
(B set the htmlText of field "Field 1" to uniencode("b$B'U'`'R'Q'b(B $B'U'Q'_(B/b",
(B "utf8") -- displays complete gibberish
(B
(B SO: what would be the correct syntax for displaying Unicode in
(B htmlText? and how do I make sure that both English and non-English
(B strings are displayed properly?
(B
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Re: Unicode revisited, this time with htmlText
Speaking of elegant and fabulous... :) All best, #1052;#1086;#1084;#1072 On Nov 19, 2003, at 6:27 PM, Klaus Major wrote: I am afraid you will have to write something like this to get NO gibberish (love this word :-) set the htmltext of fld 1 to pfont face=Arial lang=ru#1076;#1086;#1073;#1072;#1088;/font font face=Arial lang=ru#1076;#1072;#1085;/font/p ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PreNewbie database question
Sarah, I tried downloading MySQLtests.rev from your site but the link seems to be broken, no such file exists. Am I doing something wrong? All best, Toma On Nov 3, 2003, at 5:51 AM, Sarah wrote: At my web site, I have two Rev stacks for testing MySQL: MySQLtests.rev is the more complete and has an help section that gives a bit of information about installing but I only use OS X and I don't know how much of this translates to other platforms. The information about setting up permissions should work anywhere. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
database query
hello. i've started learning how to use rev with mySQL today -- it's very exciting. the database query builder is easy enough and i had no problems displaying the contents of the entire record set in the field -- but i'm having difficulties going beyond the query builder. could some kind soul tell me how to implement a simple query in a rev text field on mouseUp SELECT * FROM dictionary WHERE word = blahblah where blahblah is the clickText ? muchas gracias. T. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
problem with callbacks
i'm sorry i will have to repost my question -- i think i got spoiled by this list where things usually get resolved immediately. in this particular case, i have a deadline tomorrow, which is why i am so impatient to get this cleared out. i have a text field in which the highlighting of the sentences is synchronized with the callbacks being sent by the QuickTime audio file. The problem is that when the player is stopped and restarted or moved to another point -- all the previous callbacks are sent again and the engine quickly goes through all the highlights before continuing with the sentence at which it left off. How can this be avoided? Callbacks are messages sent by the player at certain points in the timeline -- why should restarting a player in the middle of the movie trigger the callbacks which come before that point? If this turns out to be a bug, if you have an idea on a possible scripting workaround for the time being, I'll be eternally grateful to you. Many thanks in advance, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QuickTime, text fields, closed captioning
Many thanks to Richard, Ken and Trevor for their illuminating comments and suggestions. I'm looking forward to exploring the options I have now... All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
callbacks behavior after movie restart
I am using a quicktime clip with callbacks. On each callback, a message is sent and a line of text is displayed in a field, all very straightforward on message1 put blah in fld blah end message1 on message2 put something in fld blah end message2 When the user stops the movie, the current text remains in the text field as it should, but when the user starts the movie again, the engine will fast forward through all the text lines from the beginning of the clip until the current text, displaying all of them for a split second. Is this a bug and is there a workaround? How do I avoid all the previous callback messages being sent when the movie starts playing from a certain point? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] libLinedFields
Monte, a very basic question: what does it mean when you say start using the library? I must say I haven't used your libraries yet so I am confused. I used the ScriptLibraryInstaller.rev to create a userscript folder in componentes/save. I then placed uLinedFields.rev in that folder, restarted Revolution. I checked in Development -- Plugins --revScriptLibrary to make sure that the library loads on startup. Yet when I try the following script: set the uLinedField of fld Field 1 to true - nothing happens. What am I missing? All best, Toma Am Mittwoch, 01.10.03 um 07:20 Uhr schrieb Monte Goulding: Hi All I just spent 1/2 an hour working out how to get decent looking alternate color lined fields in Rev. Then I spent another half an hour making a library out of it and uploading it to my rev site ;-) Take a look: www.sweattechnologies.com/rev Cheers Monte Goulding B.App.Sc. (Hons.) Executive Director Sweat Technologies email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.sweattechnologies.com mobile (International): +61 421 138 274 (Australia): 0421 138 274 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] libLinedFields
Monte, a very basic question: what does it mean when you say start using the library? I must say I haven't used your libraries yet so I am confused. I used the ScriptLibraryInstaller.rev to create a userscript folder in componentes/save. I then placed uLinedFields.rev in that folder, restarted Revolution. I checked in Development -- Plugins --revScriptLibrary to make sure that the library loads on startup. Yet when I try the following script: set the uLinedField of fld Field 1 to true - nothing happens. What am I missing? All best, Toma P.S. sorry if this gets posted twice -- it didn't seem to have gone through the first time. Am Mittwoch, 01.10.03 um 07:20 Uhr schrieb Monte Goulding: Hi All I just spent 1/2 an hour working out how to get decent looking alternate color lined fields in Rev. Then I spent another half an hour making a library out of it and uploading it to my rev site ;-) Take a look: www.sweattechnologies.com/rev Cheers Monte Goulding B.App.Sc. (Hons.) Executive Director Sweat Technologies email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.sweattechnologies.com mobile (International): +61 421 138 274 (Australia): 0421 138 274 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
QuickTime, text fields, closed captioning
Is it possible to have a transparent text field on top of a quicktime movie, the way we can put a text field layer over an image? if not -- is there any way in revolution to fake closed captioning? (i know i can do this in, say, LiveStage Pro, but I want to implement closed captioning in such a way that the user can stop the movie at any frame, and click on any words in the subtitle -- which Revolution should then take care of, translate etc... Is this absolutely hopeless? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
QuickTime, text fields, closed captioning
Is it possible to have a transparent text field on top of a quicktime movie, the way we can put a text field layer over an image? if not -- is there any way in revolution to fake closed captioning? (i know i can do this in, say, LiveStage Pro, but I want to implement closed captioning in such a way that the user can stop the movie at any frame, and click on any words in the subtitle -- which Revolution should then take care of, translate etc... Is this absolutely hopeless? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web host recommendations?
I can wholeheartedly recommend http://www.xrackhosting.com It's NOT the cheapest hosting available, but the service is unbelievable, and most of your questions/requests are answered within an hour... Plus it's an OSX based hosting provider. Check it out. I switched to xrackhosting after FeaturePrice (which was a cheap and safe solution) went bankrupt, cancelled their customer support, shut down my sites, never gave me my money back etc... Now they're apparently back in business, so whatever you choose do NOT chose featureprice.com All best, Toma Am Montag, 22.09.03 um 06:21 Uhr schrieb Mark Swindell: I'm starting to web-host shop... I was wondering if anyone had recommendations of hosting services with which they have first-hand experience. I'm going to put up few educational titles I've created in Revolution and been encouraged to put out as shareware. Of course I'd like cheap prices and great service, but what else is new, and what should I be aware of? I develop using Mac and Revolution. So far iPowerWeb looks pretty good. Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode matchChunk (was multiple-word phrases, links)
I've looked a little more into this. The problem is not necessarily with the matchChunk function, but with uniencode. Namely, if the text is typed directly into the field, the matchChunk function will work. If, however, I use the uniencode function to put the same text file into the field, the matchChunk will fail. Anyway, it's in bugzilla now. Am Donnerstag, 11.09.03 um 19:54 Uhr schrieb Tuviah Snyder: Chris, your script works great with English, but I can't get it to work with Unicode text. Maybe try UTF8ing the text first before sending to the matchChunk function. Tuviah Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode matchChunk (was multiple-word phrases, links)
Thanks to Kjeti, Chris and Ken. Chris, your script works great with English, but I can't get it to work with Unicode text. I tried to unidecode both the text field and thePhrases and thus deal with two one-byte chars per one Unicode two-byte character, preform the matchChunk function with one-byte chars, and then use the startChars and endChars in the unicode field, but the results are weirdly off. I don't know if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong. Has anybody successfully used matchChunk with Unicode text? Any hints would be greatly appreciated. All best, Toma Am Donnerstag, 11.09.03 um 16:17 Uhr schrieb Chris Sheffield: Toma, Here's a bit of code I use to do just that. repeat for each line tPhrase in thePhrases] if matchChunk(fld MyText, ( tPhrase ), tStartChar, tEndChar) then set the textStyle of char tStartChar to tEndChar of fld MyText to link end if end repeat ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Attaching Fonts
A propos fonts -- if you need nice looking fonts to bundle with your software, check out Bitstream Vera -- it's an open source font, released by the GNOME Foundation. So far, it contains only Basic Latin, but no doubt that will be enough for many developers on this list. You can modify and redistribute the font as you please, as long as you change the name. http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to properly format text in sheet on OS X?
Mark, I didn't quite get what you had in mind. I have tried (similar to Brian's original post): answer warning pfont face = Lucida Grande size = 13bMessage text/b/fpfont face = Lucida Grande size = 11Informative text/f/p with Continue as sheet because, according to Aqua HUI, the message text has to be bold Lucida Grande 13 and informative text has to be regular Lucida Grande 11. The styling of the informative text, however, ends up being regular Lucida Grande 13. Any thoughts on how to fix this? All best, Toma Am Montag, 18.08.03 um 18:43 Uhr schrieb Mark Brownell: I got this to work: answer warning pfont size=18message text/font/pbrbrfont face=Arial size=12informative text/font/br/br with Continue as sheet I'm thinking that setting the answer textFont to Lucida Grande first, somehow might make multiple fonts available. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Attaching Fonts
as far as i remember, load font was available only for windows, so it won't solve the cross-platform font problem that has been discussed here. or am i wrong? Am Montag, 18.08.03 um 21:32 Uhr schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know anything about attaching fonts to an application. I just include the fonts in my installer. And this works fine [for me]. Use Tuviah Snyder's EXT external to 'load' and 'unload' arbitrary fonts to make sure they are available, irrespective of the user's installed fonts. /H ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I speak French, so I think that I can't use Revolution, aaaaargh.
I'm sorry to hear you're having problems with Rev. Before you give up completely, why don't you report your problem to the bug database? That's really the only way of getting the development team alerted. And just because something doesn't work now, doesn't mean that it won't get fixed in the next release. Cordialement, T. Am Freitag, 08.08.03 um 09:24 Uhr schrieb Franois Cuneo: Hello everybody, I'm sorry, but I have asked a lot of questions this last days and I have no answer (just one from Yves) about something that maybe prohibs me to use Revolution. Why? Because I think that's it is impossible to use what all people who speaks French does: use our char in File's names! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filtering Strange characters in text
Did you by any chance set the useUnicode to true? Because if you did, then the numToChar(230) will be æ (i.e. ligature ae), which might explain why Ê does not get replaced... But then again, it's probably not this easy... :) T. On Utorak, Jul 29, 2003, at 22:06 Europe/Belgrade, Stephen Quinn Barncard wrote: OOPS, I should note in the old HC code that I had been using an XCMD called Replace2, which I patched using a handler that called Rev's internal Replace command instead of the old XCMD - a cheesy way to get my old code to work instead of changing all the instances (but I got up and running a lot quicker). So my example should look like: put Replace(theBlock,numToChar(230), ) into theBlock OR put Replace(theBlock,Ê, ) into theBlock something else is at work here as I copied the Ê from my browser, pasted it into the Replace code. Then when I copied it back from the Rev script editor into the mailer for my example - it looked ok when I sent it, then it came back as ñ. Perhaps I should filter for that char! here's my usage: put Replace(ñ, ,theBlock) into theBlock this doesn't work either... put Replace(numToChar(230), ,theBlock) into theBlock I guess I'll try Regex next. But this should work! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Spell check for Rev?
by the way, changing spellcheck.mc to spellcheck.rev and opening it in rev 2.0.1 crashes revolution -- anybody else experiencing this? On Nedelja, Jul 27, 2003, at 09:36 Europe/Belgrade, sims wrote: This might be of interest to you: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ click on XTalk Tools and you will see a dictionary builder made with MC for PC Mac hth sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF and Unicode
On Sreda, Jul 23, 2003, at 06:22 Europe/Belgrade, Joel Rees wrote: That's what I was hoping for, but alas this does NOT happen. Saving a UTF-8 encoded field with Cyrillic text as an rtf file produces garbage You might try specifying the encoding when opening with text edit. I make no promises, but I find that I do often have to specify the encoding when working with non-latin text. . And definitely try specifying the encoding when opening the file with BBEdit. Dear Joel, I should have mentioned this in my first posting -- specifying the encoding doesn't make a difference in this case: both automatic, utf8 and utf16 produces the same kind of garbage. T.
Re: RTF and Unicode
of course. bugzilla is my new best friend... :) On Sreda, Jul 23, 2003, at 05:08 Europe/Belgrade, Tuviah Snyder wrote: That's what I was hoping for, but alas this does NOT happen. Saving You know what to do then..report it to bugzilla and send a sample stack. Tuviah Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beginner in Revolution
On Sreda, Jul 23, 2003, at 17:37 Europe/Belgrade, Deivy Petrescu wrote: Hi all, I am beginning to work in Revolution Express (2.02). Is 2.02 really available? The downloads page does not seem to have been updated yet. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF and Unicode
On Utorak, Jul 22, 2003, at 20:53 Europe/Belgrade, Tuviah Snyder wrote:
RTF does support unicode text, but the unicode text is encoded a
multibyte
and tagged with the appropriate language so other RTF readers can read
it.
You should not need to encode the RTF file using UTF-8. Should be
enough to
simply put the rtftext of field suchandsuch into url blah.rtf
That's what I was hoping for, but alas this does NOT happen. Saving a
UTF-8 encoded field with Cyrillic text as an rtf file produces garbage
that looks like this if you open it in TextEdit:
a je, e aeo e o aa
e oeo a...
or like this if you open it in BBEdit:
{\rtf\mac
{\colortbl\red0\green0\blue0;\red0\green0\blue128;\red0\green128\blue0;\
red0\green128\blue128;\red128\green0\blue0;\red128\green0\blue128;\red12
8\green128\blue0;\red192\green192\blue192;\red128\green128\
Looks very interesting, but it's not exactly Cyrillic... :)
Toma
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rtf and unicode
From the Transcript Dictionary: Getting the RTFText property reports a string consisting of the text of the field (or chunk of a field), with any font, size, style, and color properties embedded in the text in the form of RTF control words. Unicode text is supported. How exactly is Unicode supported with RTF in Revolution? I would like to save a UTF-8 encoded RTF file -- but simply putting the rtfText of field suchandsuch to url blahblah produces garbage if the field suchandsuch contains Unicode text. Any hints would be appreciated. All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bugzilla search
I cannot perform any search function in the Runrev bugzilla database on Mac OS 10.2.6 with either Safari or IE -- I always get a javascript error of some kind. It seems to be a known issue with Bugzilla -- but what are we to do until it gest fixed? How are we supposed to search the database to see if a bug has already been reported? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
callback messages not getting sent
Dear List, I am using callbacks in a quicktime audio file to set the textColor of items in a field. It seems to be working very well, BUT only the first time I play the movie. If, after playing it for a while, I drag the player controller to the beginning of the movie, the callback messages do not get sent anymore (i.e. after currentTimeChanged and playStarted, I see absolutely no activity in the Message Viewer). Is this a bug? Any suggestion for a workaround? I'm using Rev 2.0.1 and OS X 10.2.6 All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Esperanto Revolution
On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 07:04 AM, Igor Couto wrote: Dear Toma, Thank you for the great suggestion! You are quite welcome! I've also looked into the problem you mentioned, of not being able to pass a Unicode string to a particular line in a field -- and am very much perplexed. I have no problems doing something like: set the unicodeText of fld suchandsuch to the value of the clickLine and preserving the Esperanto characters. ClickText, clickLine, clickCharChunk, charToNum all return proper values, there is no doubt that the Revolution engine recognizes as numToChar(285), variables CAN deal with those characters (I could, easily capitalize Esperanto characters by saying something like: put the clickText into tClickedWord replace numToChar(349) with numToChar(348) in tClickedWord put tClickedWord into fld wordDisplay BUT as soon as I tried to put anything into a particular line of a field, things would fall apart... I hope we'll hear from Tuviah about this. Also, please keep us posted of your progress. All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Esperanto Revolution
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 09:23 AM, Manuel Companys wrote: Le mercredi, 25 juin 2003, 21:26 Europe/Paris, Toma Tasovac a crit : I was thinking of writing a little Unicode tutorial anyway... That's a pretty good idea! It would help us Thanks, Manuel, although I must say I am less and less confident about my knowledge every day... :) On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04 AM, Igor Couto wrote: 3) How can I put an Esperanto label on a button? Setting the textFont of the button to ,Unicode, and then trying to enter a label in the Inspector, doesn't work. Trying to set it via script doesn't work either. What can I do? This is the only one I can answer right away. The inspector is a disaster for Unicode input, so pretty much you have to forget it. What you need to do is save you button labels in a utf8 encoded text file, one label per line. Then do the following: on openStack put uniencode (url file:esperantoButton.txt, utf8) into tTemp set the itemDel to cr set the label of button Button 1 to item 1 of tTemp set the label of button Button 2 to item 2 of tTemp -- etc... end openStack I've just tested it with ea amanao and it worked fine. Once you import these labels from the text file and save your stack, just get rid of the above script. Next time you open the stack, all the labels will be there -- displaying correctly. Now, I will play a little more with your other questions and see if I get anywhere. Don't get your hopes up, though, I am not an expert, just a total Unicode desperado... :) All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Esperanto Revolution
Igor, I sympathize! Revolution LOVES turning all languages into Japanese :) I've been struggling with Unicode for a while, but I am now at a point where I got things working more or less the way I want them. There are still major unresolved issues, such as automatic word-wrapping of two-byte characters, clickText not returning proper values (at least not for Cyrillic UTF8), but I am less desperate now, because I have a feeling the whole thing will eventually work. Now, my only experience is with Cyrillic and UTF8 -- but I see no reason why Esperanto wouldn't work with UTF8. I was thinking of writing a little Unicode tutorial anyway... why don't you send me a stack which exemplifies some of your problems? Let's get things rocking... :) All best, Toma On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Igor Couto wrote: Hi all! I wanted to know from the other Esperantists in the list, what your tips and tricks are for dealing with Esperanto text in Revolution. I'm finding it really hard to deal with unicode text in any language that is not a 'keyboard' language in MacOS X (ie, languages that you have to use a unicode keyboard, such as the 'US Extended' keyboard layout, for input). Revolution doesn't seem to want to respect my choice of fonts, and keeps trying to turn my text into Geneva, or tag the font as . Japanese - which causes major hassle... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Text
Dear Dan: I use this: on openStack set the textFont of this stack to Verdana,utf8 put uniencode (url file:text.txt,utf8) into fld text end openStack Of course, you should choose the font you like and the particular encoding you need. This really should work, but let me know if it doesn't. All best, Toma On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Dan Friedman wrote: Has anyone figured out how to read and write unicode text? I opened the unicodeFldRoutines.rev stack and tried to save field jpTargetFld to a text file and read it back in... But I can't seem to get it to work. Has anyone been able to do this? Or have ya got any ideas? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
persistent Unicode problems
Even though Cyrillic Unicode support has gotten better (one can now import a text file into a field without it being mapped to Japanese -- thanks Tuviah!), there are still glaring problems, even in the final release. The clickText function, for instance, returns the word AND the punctuation mark after it (it does not return the full-stop, but it does return comma, colon, exclamation point, question mark and semi-colon. This is plain wrong, for clickText should return a word, i.e. any chunk delimited by spaces, tabs, returns or punctuation. I'm disappointed to see that this has not been fixed in the final release. Also, the text doesn't wrap properly, words get broken down in half at the end of line... Before I write again to the Rev guys about this, I would like to get some advice from the list though. It concerns Unicode encoded text in customPropertySets. -- perhaps those dealing with other languages can help me figure out if I'm doing something wrong or if it's a Revolution bug. I am doing a simple thing: reading a utf8 encoded file into a variable, turning the variable into an array by splitting it with cr and tab, then setting the custom property set of the stack to the array. All quite straight forward. However: 1) when I look up the custom properties -- in my case, cTranslations -- in the inspector, I get garbled text consisting mostly of empty squares and numbers. 2) when I try to use the custom properties with the following code: put the clickText into tClickedWord -- the text which is being clicked on in a field was imported from a utf8 encoded file put the cTranslations[tClickedWord] of this tack into fld translationDisplay nothing happens, 3) when I try to use the message box with the following code: put the cTranslations[] of this stack (I don't know if this will come out right on everybody's email clients, but the bracketed word is in Cyrillic) -- after I hit return, the Cyrillic word gets turned into squares and numbers, and I get the message: Script compile error: Error description: Commands: missing ',' So: what's happening with unicode in custom properties? Why is this not working? Has anybody made it work with other languages? I'd be grateful for any tips... All best, Toma Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: persistent Unicode problems
Alas, I did! put uniencode (url file:translations.txt,utf8) into tTranslations is how i'm actually getting the stuff from the text file in the first place, but as I said in my first email, this will not work when when split and set to be the custom property. After using the above uniencode function, I can put tTranslations in a field -- and it will display properly. But when split and made into a custom property, I get no results... T. On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 02:50 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: --- Toma Tasovac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] So: what's happening with unicode in custom properties? Why is this not working? Has anybody made it work with other languages? I'd be grateful for any tips... All best, Toma Hi Toma, Have you tried using the 'uniEncode' and 'uniDecode' functions ? I think one of your problems might be the names of the customKeys containing weird characters, so splitting things might be what's causing the problems here. Hope these thoughts get you closer to a solution. Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: persistent Unicode problems
Dear Jan, many thanks for your email and your help. Here's what happens: put uniencode (url file:translations.txt,utf8) into tTranslations split tTranslations with cr and tab answer the keys of tTranslations -- this gives me the same empty boxes and numbers instead of Cyrillic words. What does this mean? And yes, I am storing the array this way: set the customProperties[cTranslations] of this stack to tTranslations I've spent a lot of time looking at my code, and I really can't find anything wrong with it. All best, Toma On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Hi Toma, Have you checked the status of the array after the split? What do you get for : answer the keys of tTranslations And how do you store it ? I gues you are using : set the customProperties[uTranslations] to \ tTranslations Jan Schenkel. Original post: I am doing a simple thing: reading a utf8 encoded file into a variable, turning the variable into an array by splitting it with cr and tab, then setting the custom property set of the stack to the array. All quite straight forward. However: 1) when I look up the custom properties -- in my case, cTranslations -- in the inspector, I get garbled text consisting mostly of empty squares and numbers. 2) when I try to use the custom properties with the following code: put the clickText into tClickedWord -- the text which is being clicked on in a field was imported from a utf8 encoded file put the cTranslations[tClickedWord] of this tack into fld translationDisplay nothing happens, 3) when I try to use the message box with the following code: put the cTranslations[] of this stack (I don't know if this will come out right on everybody's email clients, but the bracketed word is in Cyrillic) -- after I hit return, the Cyrillic word gets turned into squares and numbers, and I get the message: Script compile error: Error description: Commands: missing ',' ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unicode in 2.0
On Sunday, April 6, 2003, at 01:27 AM, Ron wrote: so try this: set the unicodetext of fld 1 to uniencode(myCyrillictext,utf) Thanks, Ron. set the unicodeText of fld test to uniEncode(URL binfile:Cyrillic.txt,Unicode) -- produces no result whatsoever, i.e. empty field, no error message. set the unicodeText of fld test to URL binfile:Cyrillic.txt -- produces Japanese (or what looks to me like Japanese) but definitely not Cyrillic. In other words, I still can't get Cyrillic UTF-8 files to display properly. Sorry to be such a pain in the neck... T. Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unicode in 2.0
Alas, I did -- to Verdana,Unicode; and Verdana,Cyrillic -- but to no avail... Hi Toma, Admittedly I don't know much abou unicode. But have you set the textFont of the field first to something like Arial,cyrillic I'mnot sure if it helps, so best of luck, Jan Schenkel. Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
unicode in 2.0
I am still struggling with unicode support in 2.0. I hope somebody can help me out -- and Klaus, please don't tell me you already have an example stack for this... :) there are two kinds of problems: 1) I have an UTF-8 encoded file which contains Cyrillic text. Importing it into a custom property and then using it in my stacks didn't work, so I checked the file by trying put URL file:myfile.txt in the message box. What comes up is definitely not Cyrillic, but garbled signs and symbols. Now, my custom property is obviously not going to work as I want it to if the file is not read properly as UTF-8, yet from the documentation, I don't see how I can make that happen with the the put URL command. 2) I've tried a different procedure, just for the sake of testing. set the unicodeText of fld test to url binfile:myfile.txt What that does to my poor Cyrillic text is -- hold your breath -- display it as Japanese. Impressive, but not quite what I'm looking for. I can type Cyrillic in fields and copy unicodeText from one field to another, but the above two problems are eluding me completely. I'm really agonizing over this, so I'd appreciate any help. All best, Toma Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch command
on my system: launch /HD/Applications/TextEdit will result in error -43 launch /HD/Application/TextEdit.app will launch it correctly but put exists will result in false with both TextEdit and TextEdit.app strange, eh? in any case, if your goal is to launch TextEdit, just add .app (I missed your first posting, so I'm not sure if that's what you were looking for...) Toma On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 07:14 PM, Roger Guay wrote: put exists(/Hard Disk/Applications/GetIt/TextEdit) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
preBeta4 prob
I am having problems with the latest preBeta. It refuses to put the content of a txt file into a variable. I'm doing the simplest possible thing: put url file:filename into tVariable but that just doesn't happen. I've tried the message box with: put url file:filename and i couldn't see the content of the file, no error message, nothing. The same files work ok with 1.1.1. Has anybody by any chance experienced the same problem? Any suggestion on how I could twist Revolution's arm into reading my files? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: preBeta4 prob
No, Scott, there is no variable in the file path -- it's the actual file i'm referring to. Also, I forgot to mention I was using 10.2.4 On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 07:33 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: If you're using a variable filename as your file path, the syntax would be: put url (file: filename) into tVariable ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
sentences as items
How can I make Revolution count each sentence in a field as an item -- so that I can then easily manipulate whole sentences as item 1, item 2 etc. In other words is there a magical way to make several characters (. ? !) count as the same itemDelimiter? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sentences as items
Thanks a lot, Chris. I think that's exactly what I need. But, pardon my ignorance: how do you insert these special characters? Also, if you're using Unicode and you set the useUnicode to true, is there a corresponding Unicode character that does the same trick and that I could then use in both Mac and Windows versions? Many thanks, again. Toma On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 06:09 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: I don't know if this will work with itemDelimiter, but I used this trick in version 2.0 with the new lineDelimiter property. It worked well. What I did was put a special character at the end of each sentence (NumToChar(160) on Windows and NumToChar(202) on Mac). This character looks just like a space when displayed on screen, but it isn't really a space. Then I set the lineDelimiter property to that character. It worked perfectly. You might be able to do the same thing with itemDelimiter. Hope that helps. Chris Sheffield --- Toma Tasovac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I make Revolution count each sentence in a field as an item -- so that I can then easily manipulate whole sentences as item 1, item 2 etc. In other words is there a magical way to make several characters (. ? !) count as the same itemDelimiter? All best, Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: highlighted text and quicktime sound files
Many thanks, Scott and Klaus. Ich hab das Gefühl, dass Klaus einen User Contribution Stack für jede Frage hat, die ich ihm je vorlegen könnte!!! :) All best, Toma On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 01:24 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: First, note the specific times that correspond to the speaking of each word in the sound file and store these times (in a property of the field, the player, your stack, or wherever). When each word is clicked, set the currentTime of your player to the corresponding time and start the player. You may be able to use the startTime and endTime properties to limit the playback time of the player, depending on how your player is set up. See the following in the docs: - timeScale - currentTime - playSelection - startTime - endTime Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
highlighted text and quicktime sound files
i have a question about the extent to which revolution can communicate with quicktime on both mac and windows. i have a text field and a prerecorded quicktime sound file of the text in the text field. i would like to have the text highlighted sentence by sentence as the sound file is being played. the pedestrian way would be to divide the sound file in many smaller files, one for each sentence, but i wonder if there is another way, in which revolution could tell the quicktime player which portion of the sound file to play as individual sentences get highlighted. what would be the most efficient way to both divide (or mark) the quicktime sound files and make revolution interact with those portions? all best, T. Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unicode in pre-beta
I agree, there are serious Unicode problems in pre-beta -- I have already written to Tuviah about it, and will share the info with the list if he gets back to me. Also, I've discovered that pre-beta wouldn't open a stack in OS X if it's contained within a folder that has Cyrillic characters in its name. Once I moved the stacks to the desktop, I could open them without any problems. Interestingly enough, 1.1.1 didn't care if the folder names were non-English. T. On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 08:43 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: Tuviah wrote: I'm personally look forward to feedback on Unicode, I was anxiously awaiting Unicode, but after playing with it for just a few minutes, it doesn't seem to be working very well yet (Mac OS 10.1.5, Jpnese kotoeri input). I must also admit I've found the international character handling still quite unacceptable at this pre-beta stage. I have been working on an Esperanto stack, a language which uses characters such as c+circumflex (ĉ), g+circumflex (ĝ), and u+breve (ŭ) among others. All these have to be typed with the 'US Extended' keyboard layout in MacOS X (10.2). Igor -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
pre-beta
Has anybody actually managed to open a stack created in 1.1.1 with 2.0 pre-beta? Every time I try to do that I get the message: There was a problem opening that stack: no such card. Toma ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Announce] Rev Navigator is now available.
When I try to download, I get: The requested URL /navigator/navigator.sit was not found on this server On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 12:29 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: Rev Navigator is now available at http://www.inspiredlogic.com/navigator Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
public beta?
I know that it is not politically correct to whine about the delay of 2.0 on this list, since complaints are usually bombarded with the wise and ethically superior they're working so hard, give them a break and we want a good product, we're ready to wait... kind of answers -- but the Revolution Website claims that their development process is better advanced now, allowing us to make a more accurate estimate than previously and that they will be shipping a public beta of 2.0 in mid January. Come on, guys, we all love Revolution -- that's why we're here, yet I would still like to get a response from the Revolution team: what went wrong this time, and how much longer do we need to wait, again? All best, Toma Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of connecting to them than this list. why am i addressing the mail list? because the revolution team used the list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. Use your head... hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you? if it does, i'm very sorry. we can't all be brilliant, you know. T. ___ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
changing textStyle on the fly
I have a field which has some words linked together. Under certain conditions, I want the mouse click to disregard the link and handle the individual words which make up the link. So I wrote a script to check if the clicked text is a link, change its textstyle to plain, pick up the word at clickLoc, do something with the word, and then make the originally cliked chunk into a link again. on mouseDown theButton switch case theButton is 1 put the textStyle of the selectedChunk into tStyle put the selectedChunk into tChunk if tStyle is link then set the textStyle of the selectedChunk to plain click at the clickLoc put the clickText after fld Display select tChunk set the textStyle of the selectedChunk to link hide groups else put the clickText after fld Display break end switch end mouseDown What am I doing wrong? With the above script, I still get the linked words displayed together, not individually, as I would want them. I'd be most grateful for any help. Happy holidays to everybody! Toma Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: changing textStyle on the fly
Thanks a million, Howard! I am always amazed with the speed at which answers get posted on this list. T. On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 08:00 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: on mouseup put the clickchunk into tClicked if tClicked is not empty then put the textStyle of tClicked into tStyle if tStyle is link then set the textStyle of tClicked to plain put the mousetext after fld Display set the textStyle of tClicked to link hide groups else put the clickText after fld Display end if end if end mouseup Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Displaying styled text
Title: Displaying styled text Dear List, I have a field which displays some text. Is it possible to set the textStyle of numbers to bold; and the textStyle of bracketed strings to italics, so that the plain text actually gets displayed as: 1. (italic text) plain text blah-blah. 2. (italic text) plain text blah-blah. All best, Toma _ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 318 East Pyne Princeton, NJ 08544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hilite, double-click etc.
Dear Jeanne, Thanks for the suggestion. Using this code, however, I get an execution error with Error description: do: error in statement if storedHilitedChunk is not empty \ Value: storedHilitedChunk I'm not sure what this means. Toma On 29.09.2002 18:06, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a quickie version of the highlighting code in the documentation: -- local storedHilitedChunk on mouseMove -- first unhighlight the old phrase if necessary: if storedHilitedChunk is not empty \ and storedHilitedChunk is not the mouseChunk then do set the backgroundColor of \ storedHilitedChunk to empty put empty into storedHilitedChunk end if -- highlight if the text under the mouse is linked: if the mouseChunk is not empty \ and link is in the textStyle of the mouseChunk then set the backgroundColor of the mouseChunk to yellow -- saved for later unhighlighting put the mouseChunk into storedHilitedChunk end if pass mouseMove end mouseMove on mouseLeave -- unhighlight any currently highlighted text: if storedHilitedChunk is not empty then do set the backgroundColor of \ storedHilitedChunk to empty put empty into storedHilitedChunk end if pass mouseLeave end mouseLeave -- -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution Limited - The Solution for Software Development http://www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 318 East Pyne Princeton, NJ 08544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File, variable, array, split
Dear Jan, many thanks for your detailed post. I will either split up the data into 2 separate custom property sets (tTranslations and tForms) or keep the data in one set and collate the main and the sub key myself. (Neither of which is a problem, because I'm making the vocabulary database in FMPro and I can export it as a tabdelimited file in whichever way I want). But one final thing remains unclear to me. I don't seem to be getting the customPropertySet thing -- which is why I couldn't figure out the code at the end of your post. I looked at Geoff's wiki files, but was again hit over the head by the stupid stick.You see, my original question was how to keep the data file (words, forms, translation) invisible to the user, i.e. how to store them in the application. My code is currently this: on openstack put url file:translations into tTranslations split tTranslations with cr and tab set the customProperties[cTranslations] of this stack to tTranslations put url file:forms into tForms split tForms with cr and tab set the customProperties[cForms] of this stack to tForms end openstack on mouseUp select the clickText put the clickText into tClickedWord put the cForms[tClickedWord] of this stack into fld Translation Display putafter fld Translation Display put the cTranslations[tClickedWord] of this stack after fld Translation Display set the textStyle of word 1 of fld Translation Display to bold set the textStyle of word 2 of fld Translation Display to italic end mouseUp But for this, I still need external data files in the standalone app. What should I change in the above code to have the data stored in the application? Thanks a lot for all your help! T. On 25.09.2002 01:23, Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One final piece of information before I end this lengthy post: you can have only one custom property set active at one time, but you can still access the data in other custom property sets at any given time. put the someCustomProp of this stack is internally handled by put the customPropertySet into tActiveSet put the tActiveSet[someCustomProp] of this stack All the information in custom properties is neatly stored away in arrays with the name of the set, and the name of the property as the key. You can always access the data of another custom property set with put the uAnInactiveSet[someCustomPropInThatSet] of \ this stack And this works, regardless of what is the active set at that point. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File, variable, array, split
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. BUT IT IS! Merci/Danke/Gracias... T. On 26.09.2002 12:35, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just open that stack once, delete or comment out these 6 lines of your openstack-handler and then save that stack. Et voila, c'est ca :-) And that's it :-) May have been too obvious ;-) Thanks a lot for all your help! T. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 318 East Pyne Princeton, NJ 08544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
hilite, double-click etc.
Title: hilite, double-click etc. Just as you (and I) though we were done... :) I need one more twist added to my code, and then I can actually sit down and finish translating some 30,000 words from the novel that Im preparing for my students. The code, as stated before, is simple: on mouseUp select the clickText put the clickText into tClickedWord put the cForms[tClickedWord] of this stack into fld Translation Display put after fld Translation Display put the cTranslations[tClickedWord] of this stack after fld Translation Display set the textStyle of word 1 of fld Translation Display to bold set the textStyle of word 2 of fld Translation Display to italic end mouseUp I would like to be able to add certain grammatical and stylistic explanations which would not be linked to particular words, but rather to some difficult phrases, metaphoric expressions etc. So, I wonder if one could turn some chunks of text into links which would get highlighted with mouseOver (as in Revolution Documentation) - pointing thus that there is a note attached to that phrase (not all sentences will have them, of course) and THEN have the link activated with a control-click or double-click (since single click should be reserved for individual words), displaying the note in the field Translation Display. Awaiting a kind response in fear and trepidation... Yours truly, T. _ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 318 East Pyne Princeton, NJ 08544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
half-readable text in revolution documentation?
Title: half-readable text in revolution documentation? Not exactly a programming question. Im using Revolution on Mac OS 10.1.5 and Ive noticed a very strange glitch. In all of the help documents, the examples of code can be seen only half-way, i.e. the lower half of each line of code is erased. I dont know if we can send images through the list serv, but Im attaching a small (8K tiff) image as a proof that I havent gone crazy. Any suggestions? T. revglitch.tiff Description: Binary data
Re: half-readable text in revolution documentation?
This weird thing happens in the Revolution Documentation that comes with the software -- not in the code that I write. T. On 25.09.2002 17:43, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toma Tasovac wrote: I¹m using Revolution on Mac OS 10.1.5 and I¹ve noticed a very strange glitch. In all of the help documents, the examples of code can be seen only half-way, i.e. the lower half of each line of code is ³erased.² I don¹t know if we can send images through the list serv, but I¹m attaching a small (8K tiff) image as a proof that I haven¹t gone crazy. Any suggestions? Turn off the fixedLineHeight property of the field and see if that doesn't take care of it. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
File, variable, array, split
Title: File, variable, array, split Hi. I have a text file with a tab delimited list of words and translations, i.e. word1 translation1 word2 translation2 I use the following code to put this file into a variable and then turn it into an array: on openStack global tTranslations put url file:translations into tTranslations split tTranslations with cr and tab end openStack Then, I have a field with some text in it. I want the user to click on a word in the text and have the translation displayed in another field, called Translation Display So... on mouseUp global tTranslation select the clickChunk put the clickText into tClickedWord put tTranslations[tClickedWord] into fld Translation Display end mouseUp And that should be it. But its not. When I click on the word, it gets selected, but no translation appears in the Translation Display. I get no error messages. Any ideas on how I should troubleshoot this? Toma
Re: File, variable, array, split
How painful to admit, but yes, that was it Many thanks, From the Illiterate One On 23.09.2002 04:01, David Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toma Your global variable is tTranslations in the first handler and tTranslation in the second. Add an s to the second one and try again. cheers David On Monday, Sep 23, 2002, at 16:28 Australia/Sydney, Toma Tasovac wrote: Hi. I have a text file with a tab delimited list of words and translations, i.e. word1 translation1 word2 translation2 I use the following code to put this file into a variable and then turn it into an array: on openStack global tTranslations put url file:translations into tTranslations split tTranslations with cr and tab end openStack Then, I have a field with some text in it. I want the user to click on a word in the text and have the translation displayed in another field, called ³Translation Display² So... on mouseUp global tTranslation select the clickChunk put the clickText into tClickedWord put tTranslations[tClickedWord] into fld Translation Display end mouseUp And that should be it. But it¹s not. When I click on the word, it gets selected, but no translation appears in the ³Translation Display². I get no error messages. Any ideas on how I should troubleshoot this? Toma _ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 318 East Pyne Princeton, NJ 08544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File, variable, array, split
I have one more question though: When I build a standalone application with my current setup, I still need the translation text file external to the application. Is there a way to make it reside inside the application, invisible to the user? Toma On 23.09.2002 04:01, David Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toma Your global variable is tTranslations in the first handler and tTranslation in the second. Add an s to the second one and try again. cheers David On Monday, Sep 23, 2002, at 16:28 Australia/Sydney, Toma Tasovac wrote: Hi. I have a text file with a tab delimited list of words and translations, i.e. word1 translation1 word2 translation2 I use the following code to put this file into a variable and then turn it into an array: on openStack global tTranslations put url file:translations into tTranslations split tTranslations with cr and tab end openStack Then, I have a field with some text in it. I want the user to click on a word in the text and have the translation displayed in another field, called ³Translation Display² So... on mouseUp global tTranslation select the clickChunk put the clickText into tClickedWord put tTranslations[tClickedWord] into fld Translation Display end mouseUp And that should be it. But it¹s not. When I click on the word, it gets selected, but no translation appears in the ³Translation Display². I get no error messages. Any ideas on how I should troubleshoot this? Toma _ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 318 East Pyne Princeton, NJ 08544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File, variable, array, split
Definitely, will try that. Many thanks for the suggestion. On 23.09.2002 11:22, yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one more question though: When I build a standalone application with my current setup, I still need the translation text file external to the application. Is there a way to make it reside inside the application, invisible to the user? Toma Think at my solution : use a custom property. Cheers. _ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 318 East Pyne Princeton, NJ 08544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
