Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Sharan-F
Hi All

I've loaded all the OFBiz Apachecon NA presentations on to the Wiki at the
link below.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
  

I've also updated the page to include a summary abstract of each
presentation.

Thanks
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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Thanks a lot Sharan!

Jacques

Le 20/04/2015 15:02, Sharan-F a écrit :

Hi All

I've loaded all the OFBiz Apachecon NA presentations on to the Wiki at the
link below.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015

I've also updated the page to include a summary abstract of each
presentation.

Thanks
Sharan



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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Thanks Sakthi,

I was looking for it at but did not find it with the others at 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides

Jacques

Le 20/04/2015 03:21, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit :

This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations,
Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were
thoughtful, informative  interactive too, thanks to all the presenters.

Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link
http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf

Regards
Sakthi

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Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were
informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names!

- Darrell



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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Jacques Le Roux


Le 20/04/2015 11:16, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit :

Yea Jacques, i had problems uploading in http://events.linuxfoundation.org
and i was asked to send the slide deck via email for someone from
linuxfoundation group to upload in the site, which i did, but somehow this
got slipped,


Oh, maybe it's then just delayed, I read on another ASF ML that others are 
waiting too

Thanks!

Jacques



Regards


On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:


Thanks Sakthi,

I was looking for it at but did not find it with the others at
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides

Jacques


Le 20/04/2015 03:21, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit :


This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations,
Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were
thoughtful, informative  interactive too, thanks to all the presenters.

Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link

http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf

Regards
Sakthi

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM, darrell73s darrellof...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were

informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names!

- Darrell



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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Sakthivel Vellingiri
Yea Jacques, i had problems uploading in http://events.linuxfoundation.org
and i was asked to send the slide deck via email for someone from
linuxfoundation group to upload in the site, which i did, but somehow this
got slipped,

Regards


On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:

 Thanks Sakthi,

 I was looking for it at but did not find it with the others at
 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides

 Jacques


 Le 20/04/2015 03:21, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit :

 This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations,
 Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were
 thoughtful, informative  interactive too, thanks to all the presenters.

 Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link

 http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf

 Regards
 Sakthi

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM, darrell73s darrellof...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were
 informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names!

 - Darrell



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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Gil portenseigne

Thanks Sharan !

On 20/04/2015 15:02, Sharan-F wrote:

Hi All

I've loaded all the OFBiz Apachecon NA presentations on to the Wiki at the
link below.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015

I've also updated the page to include a summary abstract of each
presentation.

Thanks
Sharan



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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Thanks Sharan.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
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Services and Retail  Trade
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Jacopo Cappellato 
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com wrote:

 wonderful

 On Apr 20, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Sharan-F sharan.f...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi All
 
  I've loaded all the OFBiz Apachecon NA presentations on to the Wiki at
 the
  link below.
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
 
 
  I've also updated the page to include a summary abstract of each
  presentation.
 
  Thanks
  Sharan
 
 
 
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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread David E. Jones

Those are not really a work around, but rather a mechanism to falling back to 
the more flexible tools when more efficient tools don't suffice for a certain 
screen/etc, and they are all over the framework.

The best practice is not to avoid them altogether, but rather when you use 
platform-specific.html or whatever that you also include alternatives for other 
platforms (or rather, render modes) like xsl-fo, csv, or whatever. This can 
be done in OFBiz, though the tag names are a little funny and don't make what 
you're doing as obvious.

-David


 On 16 Apr 2015, at 04:24, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com 
 wrote:
 
 True, there are widget elements that allow you to use HTML-specific 
 artifacts, but those were created as a workaround.
 
 I don't agree that no one is practicing this. There have been efforts in 
 the past where FreeMarker templates were replaced with widgets. Also, there 
 are many instances in the project where widgets are used to produce PDF and 
 CSV files - so someone practiced generic layout only to create those files.
 
 Throughout my presentation, I used examples from the current trunk to 
 demonstrate how NOT to do things. So, I don't believe that the current trunk 
 is a good representation of best practices.
 
 
 Adrian Crum
 Sandglass Software
 www.sandglass-software.com
 
 On 4/16/2015 12:13 PM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
 Hi Adrian,
 
 I have a comment on your presentation. You have stated below slide 10 the
 following:
 
 A common mistake new developers make is assuming these XML screen
 definitions will only output HTML – so they embed markup and JavaScript in
 the XML. That should never be done! These XML files describe a generic
 layout only.
 
 However, the tag platform-specifichtmlhtml-template
 location=.../html/platform-specific exists in thousands of locations
 all over the framework, core applications and specialpurpose. So it seems
 like the intention you mentioned above is not really applicable in OFBiz.
 
 I am wondering if this statement is realistic or applicable given that it
 seems no one is really practicing this and using OFBiz as an HTML platform
 more than anything else. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Taher Alkhateeb
 
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Adrian Crum 
 adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:
 
 Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:
 
 http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/
 documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf
 
 --
 Adrian Crum
 Sandglass Software
 www.sandglass-software.com
 
 



Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-20 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
wonderful

On Apr 20, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Sharan-F sharan.f...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All
 
 I've loaded all the OFBiz Apachecon NA presentations on to the Wiki at the
 link below.
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015
   
 
 I've also updated the page to include a summary abstract of each
 presentation.
 
 Thanks
 Sharan
 
 
 
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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-19 Thread Sakthivel Vellingiri
This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations,
Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were
thoughtful, informative  interactive too, thanks to all the presenters.

Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link
http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf

Regards
Sakthi

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM, darrell73s darrellof...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were
 informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names!

 - Darrell



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Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-17 Thread Pierre Smits
So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion?

Best regards.


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
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Services and Retail  Trade
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:

 Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

 Thanks Adrian!

 Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?


 No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter
 and Sharan :)

 Jacques



 Jacques

 Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :

 Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:


 http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf





Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-17 Thread gil portenseigne

+1

For the last apache Con we gathered all slideshows here :

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+EU+2014+in+Budapest%2C+Hungary+Nov+17th+-+Nov+19th+2014

Could be a good way to keep them.

Gil

On 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits wrote:

So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion?

Best regards.


Pierre Smits

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Services and Retail  Trade
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:


Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :


Thanks Adrian!

Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?


No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter
and Sharan :)

Jacques




Jacques

Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :


Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:


http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf






Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-17 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Le 17/04/2015 10:01, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Did you look at it? It's the last tweet in the timeline, there is a link to all 
ASF presentations, look for OFBiz ones there

As said Gil, OFBiz ones are also in the wiki for the sake of history :)


Ha wait I misread Gil, ApachCon 2015 is not there yet...

Jacques



Jacques

Le 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits a écrit :

So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion?

Best regards.


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:


Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :


Thanks Adrian!

Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?


No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter
and Sharan :)

Jacques




Jacques

Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :


Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:


http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf






Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-17 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Did you look at it? It's the last tweet in the timeline, there is a link to all 
ASF presentations, look for OFBiz ones there

As said Gil, OFBiz ones are also in the wiki for the sake of history :)

Jacques

Le 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits a écrit :

So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion?

Best regards.


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:


Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :


Thanks Adrian!

Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?


No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter
and Sharan :)

Jacques




Jacques

Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :


Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:


http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf




Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-17 Thread gil portenseigne

Yeah the table is here but without the slideshows.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015

I'll add its to this page when i have some time.

Gil

On 17/04/2015 10:03, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Le 17/04/2015 10:01, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
Did you look at it? It's the last tweet in the timeline, there is a 
link to all ASF presentations, look for OFBiz ones there


As said Gil, OFBiz ones are also in the wiki for the sake of history :)


Ha wait I misread Gil, ApachCon 2015 is not there yet...

Jacques



Jacques

Le 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits a écrit :
So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in 
oblivion?


Best regards.


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:


Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :


Thanks Adrian!

Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?

No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to 
Twitter

and Sharan :)

Jacques




Jacques

Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :


Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:


http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf 










Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-17 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Le 17/04/2015 11:13, gil portenseigne a écrit :

Yeah the table is here but without the slideshows.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015

I'll add its to this page when i have some time.

Gil

On 17/04/2015 10:03, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Le 17/04/2015 10:01, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Did you look at it? It's the last tweet in the timeline, there is a link to all 
ASF presentations, look for OFBiz ones there


Indeed the tweets flow is already steady!
To be clear I meant this tweet 
https://twitter.com/ApacheOfbiz/status/588722561753690112

From there we can update above, thanks for the link GIl!

Jacques

As said Gil, OFBiz ones are also in the wiki for the sake of history :)


Ha wait I misread Gil, ApachCon 2015 is not there yet...

Jacques



Jacques

Le 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits a écrit :

So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion?

Best regards.


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux 
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:


Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :


Thanks Adrian!

Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?


No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter
and Sharan :)

Jacques




Jacques

Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :


Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:


http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf










Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-17 Thread darrell73s
Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were
informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names!

- Darrell



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ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Adrian Crum

Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf

--
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com


Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Smits
Thanks Adrian.

How did it you experience the event and your session? Would love to hear
from all presenters and attendees how it went down...

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Adrian Crum 
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:

 Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

 http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/
 documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf

 --
 Adrian Crum
 Sandglass Software
 www.sandglass-software.com



Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Adrian Crum
The OFBiz presentations were informative. It was good to spend time with 
fellow community members. After the sessions were over, we spent some 
time exchanging ideas and telling war stories.


The event staff were very helpful and accommodating.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 4/16/2015 11:52 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

Thanks Adrian.

How did it you experience the event and your session? Would love to hear
from all presenters and attendees how it went down...

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Adrian Crum 
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:


Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/
documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf

--
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com





Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
Hi Adrian,

I have a comment on your presentation. You have stated below slide 10 the
following:

A common mistake new developers make is assuming these XML screen
definitions will only output HTML – so they embed markup and JavaScript in
the XML. That should never be done! These XML files describe a generic
layout only.

However, the tag platform-specifichtmlhtml-template
location=.../html/platform-specific exists in thousands of locations
all over the framework, core applications and specialpurpose. So it seems
like the intention you mentioned above is not really applicable in OFBiz.

I am wondering if this statement is realistic or applicable given that it
seems no one is really practicing this and using OFBiz as an HTML platform
more than anything else. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that.

Cheers,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Adrian Crum 
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:

 Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

 http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/
 documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf

 --
 Adrian Crum
 Sandglass Software
 www.sandglass-software.com



Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Smits
Our code is ridden with (not shared) best practices.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Adrian Crum 
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:

 True, there are widget elements that allow you to use HTML-specific
 artifacts, but those were created as a workaround.

 I don't agree that no one is practicing this. There have been efforts in
 the past where FreeMarker templates were replaced with widgets. Also, there
 are many instances in the project where widgets are used to produce PDF and
 CSV files - so someone practiced generic layout only to create those
 files.

 Throughout my presentation, I used examples from the current trunk to
 demonstrate how NOT to do things. So, I don't believe that the current
 trunk is a good representation of best practices.


 Adrian Crum
 Sandglass Software
 www.sandglass-software.com

 On 4/16/2015 12:13 PM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

 Hi Adrian,

 I have a comment on your presentation. You have stated below slide 10 the
 following:

 A common mistake new developers make is assuming these XML screen
 definitions will only output HTML – so they embed markup and JavaScript in
 the XML. That should never be done! These XML files describe a generic
 layout only.

 However, the tag platform-specifichtmlhtml-template
 location=.../html/platform-specific exists in thousands of
 locations
 all over the framework, core applications and specialpurpose. So it seems
 like the intention you mentioned above is not really applicable in OFBiz.

 I am wondering if this statement is realistic or applicable given that it
 seems no one is really practicing this and using OFBiz as an HTML platform
 more than anything else. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that.

 Cheers,

 Taher Alkhateeb

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Adrian Crum 
 adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:

  Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

 http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/
 documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf

 --
 Adrian Crum
 Sandglass Software
 www.sandglass-software.com





Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Adrian Crum
True, there are widget elements that allow you to use HTML-specific 
artifacts, but those were created as a workaround.


I don't agree that no one is practicing this. There have been efforts 
in the past where FreeMarker templates were replaced with widgets. Also, 
there are many instances in the project where widgets are used to 
produce PDF and CSV files - so someone practiced generic layout only 
to create those files.


Throughout my presentation, I used examples from the current trunk to 
demonstrate how NOT to do things. So, I don't believe that the current 
trunk is a good representation of best practices.



Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 4/16/2015 12:13 PM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

Hi Adrian,

I have a comment on your presentation. You have stated below slide 10 the
following:

A common mistake new developers make is assuming these XML screen
definitions will only output HTML – so they embed markup and JavaScript in
the XML. That should never be done! These XML files describe a generic
layout only.

However, the tag platform-specifichtmlhtml-template
location=.../html/platform-specific exists in thousands of locations
all over the framework, core applications and specialpurpose. So it seems
like the intention you mentioned above is not really applicable in OFBiz.

I am wondering if this statement is realistic or applicable given that it
seems no one is really practicing this and using OFBiz as an HTML platform
more than anything else. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that.

Cheers,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Adrian Crum 
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:


Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/
documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf

--
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Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com





Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Thanks Adrian!

Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?

Jacques

Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :

Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf



Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Ron Wheeler

On 16/04/2015 6:41 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf 




Very nice. Good explanation of why the Best Practices are best practices.

What has to be done to fix the Wiki to remove Second Best Practices 
from our advice to new developers?


Ron

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Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102



Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Thanks Adrian!

Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?


No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter and 
Sharan :)

Jacques



Jacques

Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :

Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:

http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf





ApacheCon 2015

2014-12-22 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi List:
Just a quick note:

I've submitted a few presentation suggestions on the Confluence site:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas,+Austin+-++April+13-17,+2015

For the OFBiz Developer: From Zero- to- Hero and Developer Training 
session(s) - should they be selected - I will draw upon the content from 
a week long, classroom based training session that I have successfully 
delivered on a number of occasions. (I recently updated the content to 
reflect release 13.x.)


If anyone is at all interested, I've pulled out all the slides (no 
narrative) and created a PDF that you can download here (free of charge):


http://www.aesolves.com/store/products/p_TR-0734-CL

Please refer any questions or comments to:

rhoff...@aesolves.net
or
http://www.aesolves.com/control/contact

Best Regards,

Ruth Hoffman



ApacheCon 2015

2014-12-22 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi List:
Just a quick note:

I've submitted a few presentation suggestions on the Confluence site:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas,+Austin+-++April+13-17,+2015

For the OFBiz Developer: From Zero- to- Hero and Developer Training 
session(s) - should they be selected - I will draw upon the content from 
a week long, classroom based training session that I have successfully 
delivered on a number of occasions. (I recently updated the content to 
reflect release 13.x.)


If anyone is at all interested, I've pulled out all the slides (no 
narrative) and created a PDF that you can download here (free of charge):


http://www.aesolves.com/store/products/p_TR-0734-CL

Please refer any questions or comments to:

rhoff...@aesolves.net
or
http://www.aesolves.com/control/contact

Thanks

Ruth Hoffman



More ApacheCon 2015

2014-12-22 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi List:
Sorry about the previous duplicate posts. Having some issues signing up 
for the list.


About ApacheCon 2015: I also submitted a proposal for a presentation 
titled Apache OFBiz Top 10. The inspiration for this presentation can 
be found in a brochure I wrote (some time ago) based on the most common 
reasons my clients have chosen OFBiz.


You can download a free copy of the brochure on my website:

http://www.aesolves.com.

Make sure you scroll down the page to where the download buttons appear.

As always, any comments or suggestions are welcome:

rhoff...@aesolves.net

Best Regards,
Ruth Hoffman


Re: More ApacheCon 2015

2014-12-22 Thread Todd Thorner
My comment is of the thank you variety.



On 14-12-22 08:26 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 Hi List:
 Sorry about the previous duplicate posts. Having some issues signing up
 for the list.
 
 About ApacheCon 2015: I also submitted a proposal for a presentation
 titled Apache OFBiz Top 10. The inspiration for this presentation can
 be found in a brochure I wrote (some time ago) based on the most common
 reasons my clients have chosen OFBiz.
 
 You can download a free copy of the brochure on my website:
 
 http://www.aesolves.com.
 
 Make sure you scroll down the page to where the download buttons appear.
 
 As always, any comments or suggestions are welcome:
 
 rhoff...@aesolves.net
 
 Best Regards,
 Ruth Hoffman