Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com : Global Impact at the highest levels.

[Zahid Rahman]

After some  years of commercial software development experience It dawned
on me
that I have  gathered a  new sense.
I don't know what the name for that sense is.
This sense shows me what components I need to make an application.
An application which solves many problems I know of.
I call it a prototype application.

You could say that I have a sense for system integration.
To do integration  I  do many "hello world"  exercises to see if that
"hello world"
will address a certain problem  which will appear in an application of that
type.

THAT SAID.

I am using UBUNTU  18 , actually KUBUNTU because in my view it is the most
stable linux operating system. I have never have any problems with it all
ever.

Naturally I use apt-get install to download software such as MAVEN , like
all linux users.

Once I had  downloaded maven I was using it for a number of JAVA components
or more accurately JAVA paradigms{frameworks}. The "hello world"  I mention
tests and runs  paradigms and to see if a particular paradigm will be a
part of or  a component of my prototype application.

THAT SAID. I didn't want to say any of it  because that is fruit of my
labour.

I was  running  these maven program  by copy and paste  from link below.
https://struts.apache.org/maven-archetypes/

I was getting same warnings I had got from other "hello world" runs.
As my goal is to integrate components in to one application these repeated
warnings became a concern to me.

SO
I went to the maven user group to find out what the issue was.
I did find out what the issue is and it is relevant struts because of this
page.
https://struts.apache.org/maven-archetypes/
in my opinion.

SO
I decided to share the fruit of my labour with effected parties and also
bugs were raised as a result by relevant concerned person.

SO in light of the above  if any one persons agrees with that codewallop of
political , non-technical post, non relevant off topic .  Then please log
me off as a troll and ban me forever OR  apologise and admit that your
technical level is 300 feet below mine.

compliment of
Backbutton.co.uk
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
♡۶Java♡۶RMI ♡۶
Write Once Run From Anywhere

<http://www.backbutton.co.uk>


On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 02:32, Martin Gainty  wrote:

> agreed that op was aggressive by employing confrontational words and
> actions
> answering party (admin) answer was xenophonobic and had the deleterious
> effect of escalating tensions
> a shame that political tactics have to enter to enter technical discussion
>
> 
> From: Dave Newton 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:36 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com :
> Global Impact at the highest levels.
>
> What?
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:28 PM Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>
> > ------ Forwarded message -
> > From: Zahid Rahman 
> > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 19:51
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users
> > To: Tomcat Users List 
> >
> >
> > Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> > warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> > Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
> >
> >
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
> >
> >
> > Mary Zheng
> > Posted by: Mary Zheng
> > <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/author/mary-zheng/> in Core Java
> > <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/category/core-java/> December 27th,
> > 2019
> >  0
> > <
> >
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond
> > >
> >  433 Views
> >
> > She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> > where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement,
> and
> > monitor the software solution.
> >
> > https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
> >
> > 2. Technologies Used
> >
> > The example code in this article was built and run using:
> >
> >- Java 11
> >- Maven 3.3.9
> >- Eclipse Oxygen
> >- Junit 4.12
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
> >
> > > ok
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > www.backbutton.co.uk<http://www.backbutton.co.uk>
> > > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > > -> healthy applications
> > >♡۶
> > > javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> > > java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> > > Wot No!  -classpath -class-path eve

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com : Global Impact at the highest levels.

[Martin Gainty]

agreed that op was aggressive by employing confrontational words and actions
answering party (admin) answer was xenophonobic and had the deleterious effect 
of escalating tensions
a shame that political tactics have to enter to enter technical discussion


From: Dave Newton 
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:36 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com : Global 
Impact at the highest levels.

What?

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:28 PM Zahid Rahman  wrote:

> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Zahid Rahman 
> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 19:51
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users
> To: Tomcat Users List 
>
>
> Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
>
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
>
>
> Mary Zheng
> Posted by: Mary Zheng
> <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/author/mary-zheng/> in Core Java
> <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/category/core-java/> December 27th,
> 2019
>  0
> <
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond
> >
>  433 Views
>
> She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement, and
> monitor the software solution.
>
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
>
> 2. Technologies Used
>
> The example code in this article was built and run using:
>
>- Java 11
>- Maven 3.3.9
>- Eclipse Oxygen
>- Junit 4.12
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
>
> > ok
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > www.backbutton.co.uk<http://www.backbutton.co.uk>
> > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > -> healthy applications
> >♡۶
> > javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> > java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> > Wot No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
> >
> > On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> > >> Zahid,
> > >>
> > >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > > like this?
> > >
> > > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
> > > of conduct:
> > >
> > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> > >
> > > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
> > > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> > >
> > >> STFU or leave.
> > > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
> > > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and
> refrain
> > > from such responses.
> > >
> > >> This calls for an ban!
> > > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as
> I
> > > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
> > > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep
> threads
> > > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> > >
> > > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> > >
> > > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of
> the
> > > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> > >
> > >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> > >>>
> > >>> 
> > >>>> A version of what?
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>>
> > >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > >>> Of http.
> > >>>
> > >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > > No.
> > >
> > > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
> > > list.
> > >
> > >>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> > > Zahid,
> > >
> > > Please stop this now.
> > >
> > > Please keep your posts to 

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com : Global Impact at the highest levels.

[Dave Newton]

It was more of a "why are you posting this here" than a recap of multiple
inheritance in Java (which I feel reasonably comfortable with).

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:40 PM Zahid Rahman  wrote:

> It requires  some time studying the subject ; I would suggest reading it.
> Sorry no short answer.
>

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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com : Global Impact at the highest levels.

[Zahid Rahman]

It requires  some time studying the subject ; I would suggest reading it.
Sorry no short answer.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 22:37 Dave Newton,  wrote:

> What?
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:28 PM Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Zahid Rahman 
> > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 19:51
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users
> > To: Tomcat Users List 
> >
> >
> > Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> > warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> > Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
> >
> >
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
> >
> >
> > Mary Zheng
> > Posted by: Mary Zheng
> > <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/author/mary-zheng/> in Core Java
> > <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/category/core-java/> December 27th,
> > 2019
> >  0
> > <
> >
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond
> > >
> >  433 Views
> >
> > She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> > where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement,
> and
> > monitor the software solution.
> >
> > https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
> >
> > 2. Technologies Used
> >
> > The example code in this article was built and run using:
> >
> >- Java 11
> >- Maven 3.3.9
> >- Eclipse Oxygen
> >- Junit 4.12
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
> >
> > > ok
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > > -> healthy applications
> > >♡۶
> > > javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> > > java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> > > Wot No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
> > >
> > > On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > > > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> > > >> Zahid,
> > > >>
> > > >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > > > like this?
> > > >
> > > > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the
> code
> > > > of conduct:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> > > >
> > > > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from
> one
> > > > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> > > >
> > > >> STFU or leave.
> > > > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are
> only
> > > > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and
> > refrain
> > > > from such responses.
> > > >
> > > >> This calls for an ban!
> > > > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon
> as
> > I
> > > > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a
> one-off.
> > > > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep
> > threads
> > > > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> > > >
> > > > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of
> > the
> > > > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > > > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman  >:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>> A version of what?
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > > >>> Of http.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > > > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users'
> mailing
> > > > list.
> > &g

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com : Global Impact at the highest levels.

[Dave Newton]

What?

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:28 PM Zahid Rahman  wrote:

> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Zahid Rahman 
> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 19:51
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users
> To: Tomcat Users List 
>
>
> Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
>
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
>
>
> Mary Zheng
> Posted by: Mary Zheng
> <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/author/mary-zheng/> in Core Java
> <https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/category/core-java/> December 27th,
> 2019
>  0
> <
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond
> >
>  433 Views
>
> She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement, and
> monitor the software solution.
>
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
>
> 2. Technologies Used
>
> The example code in this article was built and run using:
>
>- Java 11
>- Maven 3.3.9
>- Eclipse Oxygen
>- Junit 4.12
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
>
> > ok
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > -> healthy applications
> >♡۶
> > javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> > java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> > Wot No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
> >
> > On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> > >> Zahid,
> > >>
> > >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > > like this?
> > >
> > > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
> > > of conduct:
> > >
> > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> > >
> > > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
> > > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> > >
> > >> STFU or leave.
> > > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
> > > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and
> refrain
> > > from such responses.
> > >
> > >> This calls for an ban!
> > > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as
> I
> > > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
> > > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep
> threads
> > > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> > >
> > > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> > >
> > > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of
> the
> > > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> > >
> > >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> > >>>
> > >>> 
> > >>>> A version of what?
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>>
> > >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > >>> Of http.
> > >>>
> > >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > > No.
> > >
> > > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
> > > list.
> > >
> > >>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> > > Zahid,
> > >
> > > Please stop this now.
> > >
> > > Please keep your posts to this list on topic.
> > >
> > > Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of
> > Conduct.
> > >
> > > If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
> > > behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then the
> > > list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
> > > simply block you from posting at all.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > wearing his list moderator hat
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
> > >
> > --
> > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > -> healthy applications
> >♡۶
> > java -cp classpath class-path
> >
> >
>


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Fwd: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users.; javacodegeeks.com : Global Impact at the highest levels.

[Zahid Rahman]

-- Forwarded message -
From: Zahid Rahman 
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 19:51
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users
To: Tomcat Users List 


Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.

https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/


Mary Zheng
Posted by: Mary Zheng
<https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/author/mary-zheng/> in Core Java
<https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/category/core-java/> December 27th, 2019
 0
<https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond>
 433 Views

She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement, and
monitor the software solution.

https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/

2. Technologies Used

The example code in this article was built and run using:

   - Java 11
   - Maven 3.3.9
   - Eclipse Oxygen
   - Junit 4.12


On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:

> ok
>
> Thank you.
>
> www.backbutton.co.uk
> ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> -> healthy applications
>♡۶
> javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> Wot No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
>
> On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> >> Zahid,
> >>
> >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > like this?
> >
> > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
> > of conduct:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> >
> > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
> > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> >
> >> STFU or leave.
> > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
> > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and refrain
> > from such responses.
> >
> >> This calls for an ban!
> > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as I
> > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
> > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep threads
> > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> >
> > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> >
> > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of the
> > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> >
> >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>> A version of what?
> >>> MAVEN
> >>> MAVEN
> >>> MAVEN
> >>>
> >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> >>> Of http.
> >>>
> >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > No.
> >
> > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
> > list.
> >
> >>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> > Zahid,
> >
> > Please stop this now.
> >
> > Please keep your posts to this list on topic.
> >
> > Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of
> Conduct.
> >
> > If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
> > behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then the
> > list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
> > simply block you from posting at all.
> >
> > Mark
> > wearing his list moderator hat
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
> >
> --
> www.backbutton.co.uk
> ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> -> healthy applications
>♡۶
> java -cp classpath class-path
>
>

Re: OT: Architectural Semantics: Model View Presenter

[Dave Newton]

IMO the real differences are who decides what view (C in MVC, e.g., an S2
result), and what preps data for the view (C in MVC, one or more Ps in
MVP). Some people use things like the S2 "" tags to provide some
multiple-P-like functionality but I'm pretty "meh" on that usage.

Personally the differences generally boil down to either some trivial
push/pull of functionality or simple definitions, although there's probably
a bit more to it than that.

Dave



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Ken McWilliams wrote:

> Marked as OT because this more of a conceptual issue and has to do with
> talking to .NET developers regarding framework difference than with
> framework use.
>
> I'm trying to wrap my head around the Model View Pattern (MVP) pattern. My
> issue is that I can't really differentiate it from what I do in Struts2.
> But in no documentation is there any claim that Struts2 follows MVP. Also
> it seems to be a term that only shows up mainly in Microsoft circles, is it
> a sort of branding?
>
> Given the Wikipedia article:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93presenter
>
> There is a picture at the top of the wiki article that shows the following:
>
> 
> Model Business Objects <=> Presenter Contains the logic for application <=>
> View UI Components Has no notion of the model.
> 
>
> This looks a lot like, the pattern most of us take for Struts2, where the
> middle part, the presenter, is replaced by the Struts2 action.
>
> The main difference is that this is less of an abstraction than found in
> most JEE applications, as the chain is typically: Data tier objects <=>
> service tier objects <=> struts2 action <=> view.
>
> I'm supposing that this extra level, isn't required for the MVP pattern and
> so omitted to focus on the pattern and not perhaps would be done in best
> practice.
>
> So is then is Struts2 following MVP (in most cases)? I've read that wiki
> article twice and still don't see a difference. Any light on the matter
> would be most welcome.
>
> On the other hand if there isn't a difference, we should add Struts2 to the
> list of MVP frameworks at the bottom!
>
> Regards,
> Ken
>



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OT: Architectural Semantics: Model View Presenter

[Ken McWilliams]

Marked as OT because this more of a conceptual issue and has to do with
talking to .NET developers regarding framework difference than with
framework use.

I'm trying to wrap my head around the Model View Pattern (MVP) pattern. My
issue is that I can't really differentiate it from what I do in Struts2.
But in no documentation is there any claim that Struts2 follows MVP. Also
it seems to be a term that only shows up mainly in Microsoft circles, is it
a sort of branding?

Given the Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93presenter

There is a picture at the top of the wiki article that shows the following:


Model Business Objects <=> Presenter Contains the logic for application <=>
View UI Components Has no notion of the model.


This looks a lot like, the pattern most of us take for Struts2, where the
middle part, the presenter, is replaced by the Struts2 action.

The main difference is that this is less of an abstraction than found in
most JEE applications, as the chain is typically: Data tier objects <=>
service tier objects <=> struts2 action <=> view.

I'm supposing that this extra level, isn't required for the MVP pattern and
so omitted to focus on the pattern and not perhaps would be done in best
practice.

So is then is Struts2 following MVP (in most cases)? I've read that wiki
article twice and still don't see a difference. Any light on the matter
would be most welcome.

On the other hand if there isn't a difference, we should add Struts2 to the
list of MVP frameworks at the bottom!

Regards,
Ken

Re: [OT] Setting up mail server on Linux?

[Per Pascal Grube]

Do you need to use postfix? I use  msmtp as mailserver when only sending mail. 

Cheers, Pascal

Paul Benedict  schrieb:

>Anyone experienced with installing/configuring mail servers on Linux? I
>have chosen Postfix as my tool but I'll take any working solution. I don't
>need to receive any emails, only send emails from my domain from a Struts
>application.
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
>Paul

Re: [OT] Setting up mail server on Linux?

[Paweł Wielgus]

After putting all together,
try to send emails to different probable e-mail providers
and check if you will succeed (create your accounts there first),
many of them are using "special tricks" to avoid spam
but occasionally they block also normal senders.

Last such thing i faced was grey-listing.


Best greetings,
Paweł Wielgus.



2014/1/7 Dave Evans :
> This should help:
> http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Paul Benedict  wrote:
>
>> Anyone experienced with installing/configuring mail servers on Linux? I
>> have chosen Postfix as my tool but I'll take any working solution. I don't
>> need to receive any emails, only send emails from my domain from a Struts
>> application.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Paul
>>

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Re: [OT] Setting up mail server on Linux?

[Dave Evans]

This should help:
http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client




On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Paul Benedict  wrote:

> Anyone experienced with installing/configuring mail servers on Linux? I
> have chosen Postfix as my tool but I'll take any working solution. I don't
> need to receive any emails, only send emails from my domain from a Struts
> application.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Paul
>

[OT] Setting up mail server on Linux?

[Paul Benedict]

Anyone experienced with installing/configuring mail servers on Linux? I
have chosen Postfix as my tool but I'll take any working solution. I don't
need to receive any emails, only send emails from my domain from a Struts
application.

-- 
Cheers,
Paul

RE: (OT) Hibernate question

[Martin Gainty]

an hour long discussion with a developer yesterday who said you *could* hint 
Hibernate predicates
Our allotted teleconference time ran out before we could get into the exact 
details of how to hint a Hibernate query

The concern for a potential client is to make all his Hibernate queries run 
fasteras explain plan on the Database shows repeated FTS
(personally..I dont know how to make a hibernate query run faster without 
hinting)
Anyone?
Martin  
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 > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 18:37:06 +0200
> Subject: Re: (OT) Hibernate question
> From: dio...@gmail.com
> To: user@struts.apache.org
> 
> Hi!
> 
> It's not possible to add hints to Hibernate criteria queries/hql queries.
> But it's possible to add it if you use native query(but it's not your case,
> as I understand).
> 
> BR,
> Dionis
> 
> 2013/1/4 Martin Gainty 
> 
> > oes anyone know how to hint a Hiber
  

Re: (OT) Hibernate question

[Dionis Argiri]

Hi!

It's not possible to add hints to Hibernate criteria queries/hql queries.
But it's possible to add it if you use native query(but it's not your case,
as I understand).

BR,
Dionis

2013/1/4 Martin Gainty 

> oes anyone know how to hint a Hiber

(OT) Hibernate question

[Martin Gainty]

Gentlemen This has been asked many times but i havent found an answer

Does anyone know how to hint a Hibernate predicate with something like  select 
/*+ index(emp_alias ix_emp) */ ... from scott.emp emp_alias

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RE: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Marcus Bond]

Perhaps Apache Shiro may be something you could utilise... you would
implement an LDAP 'realm' or a SQL realm that knows how to lookup
credentials and access privileges etc.
In their lingo "A Realm is essentially a security-specific DAO "  and out of
the box they provide a JDBC realm with suggested schema and, whilst I
haven't used it, they also have org.apache.shiro.realm.ldap.JndiLdapRealm
(abstract class available too if not quite what you're after) so you may be
able to save yourself a heap of implementation.

http://shiro.apache.org/realm.html
http://shiro.apache.org

I have used this framework as part of a Spring based web app using a custom
realm to authenticate users stored in CouchDB and also implemented a JPA  /
Hibernate realm (DAO), it's easy enough to get to grips with, active and
helpful mailing list and it seems to be catching on..

Cheers,
Marcus

-Original Message-
From: Balwinder [mailto:balwinder@gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 December 2011 17:13
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

Hi Wes,

What I need is something like, if I want to access data from a database, i
can use SQL, but if i change the source to LDAP then the access mechanism
will change from SQL to LDAP specifics, now if the same data goes to flat
file than again my mechanism will change, so all I need is some framework
that if when source is changed its access mechanism should remain same. Hope
this explains what I am looking for.

Regards,
Balwinder Kumar

On 12/5/2011 10:35 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote:
> I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, but the first 
> thing that comes to mind -
>
> http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/DataAccessObj
> ect.html
>
> I would say to combine a disciplined approach of separation with a 
> domain model layer, a business logic (transactional) layer and then 
> IoC with Spring...
>
> If you were looking for more detail than that, we'll need some more 
> details on your problem.
>
> -Wes
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Balwinder
wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Can anyone suggest me a framework that can abstract the data call and 
>> its source, if there exists any? Example if I want to authenticate a 
>> user then my query shall not depend upon the data source, it could be 
>> any LDAP server, database or any file in a file system or anything else.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Balwinder Kumar
>>
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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Wes Wannemacher]

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Balwinder  wrote:
> Hi Wes,
>
> What I need is something like, if I want to access data from a database, i
> can use SQL, but if i change the source to LDAP then the access mechanism
> will change from SQL to LDAP specifics, now if the same data goes to flat
> file than again my mechanism will change, so all I need is some framework
> that if when source is changed its access mechanism should remain same. Hope
> this explains what I am looking for.
>

Based on that, I am going to reiterate my original pointer to the DAO
pattern. What you are looking for (IMO) is too high-level to be be
implemented by a framework. There are ambitious attempts, such as
spring-data (http://www.springsource.org/spring-data). However, you
will see that they don't mention LDAP support. Conversely, if you read
the original link about the DAO *pattern* and implement that pattern
using a good IoC (spring), you will achieve your goal with very little
effort. Then, you will find that spring / struts play nicely together
and you will be very happy. As a reassurance, I use the DAO approach
with IoC and have a library, developed internally, that we use to
manage security. This allows us to retrieve users from a database, if
the database modules are wired in, or use LDAP if the LDAP / Active
Directory modules are wired in.

-Wes

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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Balwinder]

Thanks Lukasz, this is exactly what I am looking for, hope there will 
not be any licensing issue if I want to use it.


Regards,
Balwinder Kumar
On 12/5/2011 10:45 PM, Łukasz Lenart wrote:

Check JDO

http://www.datanucleus.org/products/index.html


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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Eric Lentz]

How about an object factory?

Interface - UserAuth
Implementation - LdapAuth implements UserAuth
Implementation - SqlAuth implements UserAuth

Factory (pseudo code):
if(ldap) {
return(new LdapAuth);
}
else if(sql) {
reutrn(new SqlAuth);
}
etc.

More pseudo code (this is inside your DAO):
UserAuth auth = Factory.getInstance(somecriteria);
auth.authenticate();




From:   Balwinder 
To: Struts Users Mailing List 
Date:   12/05/2011 12:13 PM
Subject:Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.



Hi Wes,

What I need is something like, if I want to access data from a database, 
i can use SQL, but if i change the source to LDAP then the access 
mechanism will change from SQL to LDAP specifics, now if the same data 
goes to flat file than again my mechanism will change, so all I need is 
some framework that if when source is changed its access mechanism 
should remain same. Hope this explains what I am looking for.

Regards,
Balwinder Kumar

On 12/5/2011 10:35 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote:
> I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, but the first
> thing that comes to mind -
>
> 
http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/DataAccessObject.html

>
> I would say to combine a disciplined approach of separation with a
> domain model layer, a business logic (transactional) layer and then
> IoC with Spring...
>
> If you were looking for more detail than that, we'll need some more
> details on your problem.
>
> -Wes
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Balwinder 
wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Can anyone suggest me a framework that can abstract the data call and 
its
>> source, if there exists any? Example if I want to authenticate a user 
then
>> my query shall not depend upon the data source, it could be any LDAP 
server,
>> database or any file in a file system or anything else.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Balwinder Kumar
>>
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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Dave Newton]

wat

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Josep García  wrote:

> Use spring-security.
>
> 2011/12/5 Balwinder 
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Can anyone suggest me a framework that can abstract the data call and its
> > source, if there exists any? Example if I want to authenticate a user
> then
> > my query shall not depend upon the data source, it could be any LDAP
> > server, database or any file in a file system or anything else.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Balwinder Kumar
> >
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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Łukasz Lenart]

Check JDO

http://www.datanucleus.org/products/index.html


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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Balwinder]

Hi Wes,

What I need is something like, if I want to access data from a database, 
i can use SQL, but if i change the source to LDAP then the access 
mechanism will change from SQL to LDAP specifics, now if the same data 
goes to flat file than again my mechanism will change, so all I need is 
some framework that if when source is changed its access mechanism 
should remain same. Hope this explains what I am looking for.


Regards,
Balwinder Kumar

On 12/5/2011 10:35 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote:

I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, but the first
thing that comes to mind -

http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/DataAccessObject.html

I would say to combine a disciplined approach of separation with a
domain model layer, a business logic (transactional) layer and then
IoC with Spring...

If you were looking for more detail than that, we'll need some more
details on your problem.

-Wes

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Balwinder  wrote:

Hi All,

Can anyone suggest me a framework that can abstract the data call and its
source, if there exists any? Example if I want to authenticate a user then
my query shall not depend upon the data source, it could be any LDAP server,
database or any file in a file system or anything else.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Josep García]

Use spring-security.

2011/12/5 Balwinder 

> Hi All,
>
> Can anyone suggest me a framework that can abstract the data call and its
> source, if there exists any? Example if I want to authenticate a user then
> my query shall not depend upon the data source, it could be any LDAP
> server, database or any file in a file system or anything else.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Balwinder Kumar
>
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Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Eric Lentz]

> abstract the data call and its source

Not a Struts question, but an easy answer, so here you go:

http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/DataAccessObject.html

"Use a Data Access Object (DAO) to abstract and encapsulate all access to 
the data source. The DAO manages the connection with the data source to 
obtain and store data."

Re: [OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Wes Wannemacher]

I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, but the first
thing that comes to mind -

http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/DataAccessObject.html

I would say to combine a disciplined approach of separation with a
domain model layer, a business logic (transactional) layer and then
IoC with Spring...

If you were looking for more detail than that, we'll need some more
details on your problem.

-Wes

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Balwinder  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Can anyone suggest me a framework that can abstract the data call and its
> source, if there exists any? Example if I want to authenticate a user then
> my query shall not depend upon the data source, it could be any LDAP server,
> database or any file in a file system or anything else.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Balwinder Kumar
>
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[OT] Searching for data access framework.

[Balwinder]

Hi All,

Can anyone suggest me a framework that can abstract the data call and 
its source, if there exists any? Example if I want to authenticate a 
user then my query shall not depend upon the data source, it could be 
any LDAP server, database or any file in a file system or anything else.


Thanks in advance.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Vishwa Sahan]

Thanks dave. I think  I should check on that.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Dave Newton  wrote:

> But modern Dojo can be used on its own.
>
> Dave
>  On Aug 16, 2011 10:20 PM, "Vishwa Sahan"  wrote:
> > dojo plugin is no longer supported i think...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vishwa Rajakaruna
> >
> > *...It does not take a new day to make a brand new start
> > It only takes a deep desire to try with all your heart...*
>



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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Dave Newton]

But modern Dojo can be used on its own.

Dave
 On Aug 16, 2011 10:20 PM, "Vishwa Sahan"  wrote:
> dojo plugin is no longer supported i think...
>
>
>
>
> --
> Vishwa Rajakaruna
>
> *...It does not take a new day to make a brand new start
> It only takes a deep desire to try with all your heart...*

Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Vishwa Sahan]

dojo plugin is no longer supported i think...




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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Dave Newton]

Full-stack GUIs.

IMO jQuery is better for minor ajaxification of apps. For strong GUI needs
I'd lean towards more complete, pre-packaged solutions rather than trying to
mash jQueryUI things together, which can be painful at times.

Dave
 On Aug 16, 2011 1:10 PM, "Christian Grobmeier"  wrote:
> Out of curiosity.
> What are the criteria which speak for Dojo, in your opinion?
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Dave Newton 
wrote:
>> jQuery.
>>
>> Dave
>>  On Aug 16, 2011 1:01 PM, "Balwinder"  wrote:
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> My criteria is:
>>>
>>> Able to ajaxify my app seamlessly.
>>> Quick in implementation.
>>> Ease of maintenance.
>>> Quick to learn.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Balwinder Kumar
>>>
>>> On 8/16/2011 10:26 PM, Dave Newton wrote:
 What are your criteria?

 IMO they're different things, Dojo is more of an app framework,
although
 there's overlap in functionality at the low level.

 Dave
 On Aug 16, 2011 12:38 PM, "Balwinder" wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?
>
> Regards,
> Balwinder Kumar
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Christian Grobmeier]

Out of curiosity.
What are the criteria which speak for Dojo, in your opinion?

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Dave Newton  wrote:
> jQuery.
>
> Dave
>  On Aug 16, 2011 1:01 PM, "Balwinder"  wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> My criteria is:
>>
>> Able to ajaxify my app seamlessly.
>> Quick in implementation.
>> Ease of maintenance.
>> Quick to learn.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Balwinder Kumar
>>
>> On 8/16/2011 10:26 PM, Dave Newton wrote:
>>> What are your criteria?
>>>
>>> IMO they're different things, Dojo is more of an app framework, although
>>> there's overlap in functionality at the low level.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>> On Aug 16, 2011 12:38 PM, "Balwinder" wrote:
 Hi All,

 Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?

 Regards,
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Dave Newton]

jQuery.

Dave
 On Aug 16, 2011 1:01 PM, "Balwinder"  wrote:
> Dave,
>
> My criteria is:
>
> Able to ajaxify my app seamlessly.
> Quick in implementation.
> Ease of maintenance.
> Quick to learn.
>
>
> Regards,
> Balwinder Kumar
>
> On 8/16/2011 10:26 PM, Dave Newton wrote:
>> What are your criteria?
>>
>> IMO they're different things, Dojo is more of an app framework, although
>> there's overlap in functionality at the low level.
>>
>> Dave
>> On Aug 16, 2011 12:38 PM, "Balwinder" wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?
>>>
>>> Regards,
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Balwinder]

Dave,

My criteria is:

Able to ajaxify my app seamlessly.
Quick in implementation.
Ease of maintenance.
Quick to learn.


Regards,
Balwinder Kumar

On 8/16/2011 10:26 PM, Dave Newton wrote:

What are your criteria?

IMO they're different things, Dojo is more of an app framework, although
there's overlap in functionality at the low level.

Dave
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Hi All,

Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?

Regards,
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Maurizio Cucchiara]

I think it's a matter of taste, I personally prefer jquery (is lesser
intrusive).

Maurizio Cucchiara



On 16 August 2011 18:45, Paul Benedict  wrote:
> jQuery and Dojo are different programming models. jQuery is more like
> a scripting tool; Dojo is more like an object-oriented programming
> model. I've used jQuery for several months now and find it very
> powerful. I haven't used Dojo because I don't want to learn another
> OO-like technology on the front-end.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>  wrote:
>>> Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?
>>
>> Every answer is highly subjective, but I have made great experiences
>> with jQuery.
>> In addition, I was able to use jQuery mobile without pain later and
>> there seems to be a huge community around jQuery.
>>
>> My current js combination is jQuery + https://github.com/janl/mustache.js
>>
>> CHeers
>>
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Dave Newton]

What are your criteria?

IMO they're different things, Dojo is more of an app framework, although
there's overlap in functionality at the low level.

Dave
 On Aug 16, 2011 12:38 PM, "Balwinder"  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?
>
> Regards,
> Balwinder Kumar
>
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Paul Benedict]

jQuery and Dojo are different programming models. jQuery is more like
a scripting tool; Dojo is more like an object-oriented programming
model. I've used jQuery for several months now and find it very
powerful. I haven't used Dojo because I don't want to learn another
OO-like technology on the front-end.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Christian Grobmeier
 wrote:
>> Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?
>
> Every answer is highly subjective, but I have made great experiences
> with jQuery.
> In addition, I was able to use jQuery mobile without pain later and
> there seems to be a huge community around jQuery.
>
> My current js combination is jQuery + https://github.com/janl/mustache.js
>
> CHeers
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Balwinder Kumar
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Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Brian Thompson]

I prefer jquery.  Even back in 2007, using dojo with Struts seemed clunky.

AFAIK the Struts dojo plugin is deprecated, but I'm sure Dave can tell you
more about that :)

Brian



On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Balwinder  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?
>
> Regards,
> Balwinder Kumar
>
>

Re: [OT] JQuery or dojo?

[Christian Grobmeier]

> Can any one suggest, for ajax which framework is better?

Every answer is highly subjective, but I have made great experiences
with jQuery.
In addition, I was able to use jQuery mobile without pain later and
there seems to be a huge community around jQuery.

My current js combination is jQuery + https://github.com/janl/mustache.js

CHeers

>
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[OT] JQuery or dojo?

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Hi All,

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[OT] Re: Using Display Tag library

[Dave Newton]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:34 AM, JavaNoobie87 wrote:
> The thing is I'm  NOT using struts 2 here , just basic jsp,javabeans and
> servlets .(Its a sort of demo project!).

Well, this is a Struts mailing list.

> As of now my DAO fetches the result according to this query

How the data is retrieved isn't relevant, unless you need to implement
paging, which is a matter of offset and length.

> FROM DOMAIN WHERE DOMAINTYPE_OID='"+dt_oid+"' ORDER BY

Please search the web for "sql injection".

> I really didnt quite understand how external paging would help me ?

By making it unnecessary to keep your entire list in session or
request, like your original question seemed to ask.

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Re: [OT] Re: adding more package via Maven

[Mohamed SIDI]

Hi Martin,

As I undestand, I shoud have many pom.xml, every new folders shoud have its
pom.xml?



2011/6/22 Martin Gainty 

>
> most of us on the list are build engineers (Wes and Lukaz for sure) so i'll
> take the liberty of answering this:
> you'll want to segregate src/main/java/com.mycampany.beans from
> src/main/java/com.mycampany.beans and setup pom for each artifact in
> separate folders:
>
> in your beans folder:
> 
> 
> http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"; xmlns:xsi="
> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; xsi:schemaLocation="
> http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/maven-v4_0_0.xsd
> ">
>4.0.0
>
>
>
>org.apache.struts
>struts2-apps
>2.2.1.1
>
>com.mycampany
>beans
>1.0
> 
> mvn -e -X compile
> mvn -e -X package
> mvn -e -X install:install-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=beans
> -Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=pom.xml -Dpackaging=pom
> mvn -e -X deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=beans
> -Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=beans-1.0.jar -Dpackaging=jar -url
> file:///C:/m2-repo
>
> where C:/m2-repo is location of local  maven repository
>
> in your services folder:
> once the beans are installed you can reference the service create another
> folder and recursive copy the contents to that folder:
> http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"; xmlns:xsi="
> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; xsi:schemaLocation="
> http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/maven-v4_0_0.xsd
> ">
>4.0.0
>
>
>
>org.apache.struts
>struts2-apps
>2.2.1.1
>
>com.mycampany
>services
>1.0
>
> 
>  com.mycampany
>  beans
>  1.0
>
>
> 
> mvn -e -X compile
> mvn -e -X package
> mvn -e -X install:install-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=service
> -Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=pom.xml -Dpackaging=pom
> mvn -e -X deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=service
> -Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=services-1.0.jar -Dpackaging=jar -url
> file:///C:/m2-repo
>
> http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-install-plugin/
> http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-deploy-plugin/deploy-file-mojo.html
> you can execute install and deploy plugins together but it is best to
> execute one at a time if there are errors or exceptions
> Martin Gainty
> __
> Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und
> Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité
>
>
> Ez az üzenet bizalmas.  Ha nem ön az akinek szánva volt, akkor kérjük, hogy
> jelentse azt nekünk vissza. Semmiféle továbbítása vagy másolatának készítése
> nem megengedett.  Ez az üzenet csak ismeret cserét szolgál és semmiféle jogi
> alkalmazhatósága sincs.  Mivel az electronikus üzenetek könnyen
> megváltoztathatóak, ezért minket semmi felelöség nem terhelhet ezen üzenet
> tartalma miatt.
>
> Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene
> Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte
> Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht
> dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine
> rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von
> E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen.
> Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le
> destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire
> informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie
> de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura
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>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:30:36 -0400
> > Subject: [OT] Re: adding more package via Maven
> > From: davelnew...@gmail.com
> > To: user@struts.apache.org
> >
> > Are you aware there's a Maven mailing list?
> >
> > You may need to be a bit more specific with what you're trying to do
> > as well--is something going wrong? What behavior are you seeing, and
> > how does it differ from what you expect?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Mohamed SIDI 
> wrote:
> > > Hello there,
> > >
> > > I apologize to post this issue here in this maling list witch is
> reserved
> > > for Struts is

RE: [OT] Re: adding more package via Maven

[Martin Gainty]

most of us on the list are build engineers (Wes and Lukaz for sure) so i'll 
take the liberty of answering this:
you'll want to segregate src/main/java/com.mycampany.beans from 
src/main/java/com.mycampany.beans and setup pom for each artifact in separate 
folders:

in your beans folder:


http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"; 
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; 
xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 
http://maven.apache.org/maven-v4_0_0.xsd";>
4.0.0



org.apache.struts
struts2-apps
2.2.1.1

com.mycampany
beans
1.0

mvn -e -X compile
mvn -e -X package
mvn -e -X install:install-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=beans 
-Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=pom.xml -Dpackaging=pom
mvn -e -X deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=beans 
-Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=beans-1.0.jar -Dpackaging=jar -url 
file:///C:/m2-repo 
 
where C:/m2-repo is location of local  maven repository

in your services folder:
once the beans are installed you can reference the service create another 
folder and recursive copy the contents to that folder:
http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"; 
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; 
xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 
http://maven.apache.org/maven-v4_0_0.xsd";>
4.0.0



org.apache.struts
struts2-apps
2.2.1.1

com.mycampany
services
1.0

 
  com.mycampany
  beans
  1.0



mvn -e -X compile
mvn -e -X package
mvn -e -X install:install-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=service 
-Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=pom.xml -Dpackaging=pom
mvn -e -X deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=com.mycampany -DartifactId=service 
-Dversion=1.0 -Dfile=services-1.0.jar -Dpackaging=jar -url file:///C:/m2-repo 

http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-install-plugin/
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-deploy-plugin/deploy-file-mojo.html
you can execute install and deploy plugins together but it is best to execute 
one at a time if there are errors or exceptions
Martin Gainty 
__ 
Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und 
Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité

 
Ez az üzenet bizalmas.  Ha nem ön az akinek szánva volt, akkor kérjük, hogy 
jelentse azt nekünk vissza. Semmiféle továbbítása vagy másolatának készítése 
nem megengedett.  Ez az üzenet csak ismeret cserét szolgál és semmiféle jogi 
alkalmazhatósága sincs.  Mivel az electronikus üzenetek könnyen 
megváltoztathatóak, ezért minket semmi felelöség nem terhelhet ezen üzenet 
tartalma miatt.

Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger 
sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung 
oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem 
Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. 
Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung 
fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen.
Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le 
destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez 
l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est 
interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe 
quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement 
être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité 
pour le contenu fourni.

 


> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:30:36 -0400
> Subject: [OT] Re: adding more package via Maven
> From: davelnew...@gmail.com
> To: user@struts.apache.org
> 
> Are you aware there's a Maven mailing list?
> 
> You may need to be a bit more specific with what you're trying to do
> as well--is something going wrong? What behavior are you seeing, and
> how does it differ from what you expect?
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Mohamed SIDI  wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > I apologize to post this issue here in this maling list witch is reserved
> > for Struts issues,
> >
> > I'm working on a Maven2's project, I would like to add a new package, my
> > current architecure look like :
> >
> > src/main/java/com.mycampany.beans
> >
> > I want to add via maven the package /src/main/java/com.mycampany.services
> >
> > Can some one help me for doing this
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Cordialement
> >
> > Mohamed
> >
> 
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Re: [OT] Re: adding more package via Maven

[Dave Newton]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Mohamed SIDI  wrote:
> you're right I coul post this issue in a maven mailing list I should find
> more infirmation but this idea coming after but never mind !
>
> instead of creating the packages manually, I prefere use Maven to create
> these packages

I'm still not sure I understand. It sounds like you're saying you'd
rather type something like:

mvn createPackage -where=java com.mycampany.services

than:

mkdir src/java/main/com/mycompany/services

What benefit would you derive from having Maven do this for you?
What's the actual problem you're trying to solve?

Seems like it's a lot more work, as you'd need to tell Maven where to
put it (potentially in more than one place, for example, you might
need both Java source, and XML resources, so two directories would
need to be created.

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Re: [OT] Re: adding more package via Maven

[Mohamed SIDI]

you're right I coul post this issue in a maven mailing list I should find
more infirmation but this idea coming after but never mind !

instead of creating the packages manually, I prefere use Maven to create
these packages

I have this :

*/src/main/java/com/tuto/maven
/src/main/java/com/tuto/maven/beans*

and I want to use a maven command line for creating the packages :

*/src/main/java/com/tuto/new/maven
/src/main/java/com/tuto/new/maven/beans*

I hope I was clear !!


2011/6/22 Dave Newton 

> Are you aware there's a Maven mailing list?
>
> You may need to be a bit more specific with what you're trying to do
> as well--is something going wrong? What behavior are you seeing, and
> how does it differ from what you expect?
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Mohamed SIDI  wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > I apologize to post this issue here in this maling list witch is reserved
> > for Struts issues,
> >
> > I'm working on a Maven2's project, I would like to add a new package, my
> > current architecure look like :
> >
> > src/main/java/com.mycampany.beans
> >
> > I want to add via maven the package /src/main/java/com.mycampany.services
> >
> > Can some one help me for doing this
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Cordialement
> >
> > Mohamed
> >
>
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>


-- 


Cordialement

Mohamed

[OT] Re: adding more package via Maven

[Dave Newton]

Are you aware there's a Maven mailing list?

You may need to be a bit more specific with what you're trying to do
as well--is something going wrong? What behavior are you seeing, and
how does it differ from what you expect?

Dave

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Mohamed SIDI  wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I apologize to post this issue here in this maling list witch is reserved
> for Struts issues,
>
> I'm working on a Maven2's project, I would like to add a new package, my
> current architecure look like :
>
> src/main/java/com.mycampany.beans
>
> I want to add via maven the package /src/main/java/com.mycampany.services
>
> Can some one help me for doing this
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>
>
> Cordialement
>
> Mohamed
>

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[OT] Re: Call execAndWait but got NullPointerException ?

[Dave Newton]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Emi Lu wrote:
>      
> 

Ew. Use something nice.

Dave

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Re: OT: Arabic Website

[Zoran Avtarovski]

Thanks Tito,

That's the sort of stuff I'm after. The struts/java specific stuff I'm
fine with, it's more the presentation (HTML/CSS) that I need help with.

Z. 

On 2/06/11 4:55 PM, "tito"  wrote:

>hi,
>
>struts Application Resources,Struts locale .. and UTF-8 encoding is the
>place to start.. also you also have take care of the  RTL ( right to left
>)
>layout in ur web app. this explains the RTL >
>http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/bidi-xhtml/
>
>
>regards,
>Tito Cheriachan
>http://about.me/tito
>
>
>
>On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Zoran Avtarovski
>wrote:
>
>> We have a multi-lingual website that we have developed using struts that
>> only uses English and European languages.
>>
>> We'd like to add Arabic to the site and was hoping somebody might have
>>some
>> pointers for where to start.
>>
>> Z.
>>
>>
>>



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Re: OT: Arabic Website

[tito]

hi,

struts Application Resources,Struts locale .. and UTF-8 encoding is the
place to start.. also you also have take care of the  RTL ( right to left )
layout in ur web app. this explains the RTL >
http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/bidi-xhtml/


regards,
Tito Cheriachan
http://about.me/tito



On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Zoran Avtarovski
wrote:

> We have a multi-lingual website that we have developed using struts that
> only uses English and European languages.
>
> We'd like to add Arabic to the site and was hoping somebody might have some
> pointers for where to start.
>
> Z.
>
>
>

OT: Arabic Website

[Zoran Avtarovski]

We have a multi-lingual website that we have developed using struts that
only uses English and European languages.

We'd like to add Arabic to the site and was hoping somebody might have some
pointers for where to start.

Z.

Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[erikweber]

If you need any consulting or development in the Java client-side area (Swing, 
JFC/AWT, core Java, etc.), feel free to give me a shout. Also I do C++ GUI 
development, particularly with DirectX.

I used to be a server-side developer but have focused on client development for 
the past seven years or so. If you want someone to strictly do Struts I'm sure 
I'd be rustier than your other candidates but . . . I live in Atlanta and have 
a successful "telecommuting" record behind me so you never know. Thought I 
would reach out.

Thanks and good luck.

Erik


-Original Message-
>From: Robert Taylor 
>Sent: May 26, 2011 10:01 AM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List 
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
>
>Hello,
>
>Currently we are only considering candidates in the Atlanta, GA area.
>Telecommuting is an option; however, you will be required to be onsite
>at various times.
>
>Thanks,
>
>/robert
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Mohamed SIDI" 
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
>
>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch is
>> located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)
>>
>> 2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 
>>
>>> Hi Dale,
>>>
>>> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
>>> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
>>> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
>>> for Java developers.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advice.
>>>
>>> /robert
>>> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 
>>>
>>> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> does'nt dale live down there?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these 
>>>> parts
>>>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last 
>>>> year, so
>>>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm no
>>>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner 
>>>> Entertainment,
>>>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having 
>>>> quite a
>>>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta 
>>>> my
>>>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job
>>>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much 
>>>> that
>>>> advice is worth.
>>>>
>>>> -Dale
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylor>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
>>>>>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
>>>>>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
>>>>>>> positions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Brian Thompson]

LOL ... I had a feeling that was going to happen as soon as I saw Patrick's
request!  It's like an extension of Murphy's Law...

-Brian



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Wes Wannemacher  wrote:

> damnit, sorry, I hit reply, but didn't pay attention to where it was going
> :(
>
> Sorry about that.
>
> -Wes
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Patrick Cosmo  >wrote:
>
> > Wes, why do I want to know this? Can't you email Robert directly:
> > rtay...@dtgresults.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wes Wannemacher [mailto:w...@wantii.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:09 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
> >
> > I'm not in the Atlanta, GA area, I am in Ohio, but I am willing to come
> > down
> > from time to time. I work as an independent contractor, hopefully that
> > isn't
> > a problem. If you are interested, let me know and I'll send my resume and
> > rates. I will highlight this offer by mentioning that I am a PMC member
> of
> > the Struts team. You can check that here -
> >
> > http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html
> >
> > <http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html>-Wes
> >
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Robert Taylor
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Currently we are only considering candidates in the Atlanta, GA area.
> > > Telecommuting is an option; however, you will be required to be onsite
> > > at various times.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > /robert
> > > - Original Message - From: "Mohamed SIDI" 
> > >
> > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:41 AM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hello there,
> > >>
> > >> This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch
> > is
> > >> located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)
> > >>
> > >> 2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 
> > >>
> > >>  Hi Dale,
> > >>>
> > >>> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
> > >>> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
> > >>> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
> > >>> for Java developers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for the advice.
> > >>>
> > >>> /robert
> > >>> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" <
> d...@newfield.org>
> > >>>
> > >>> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
> > >>>
> > >>> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  does'nt dale live down there?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these
> > >>>> parts
> > >>>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last
> > >>>> year, so
> > >>>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm
> > no
> > >>>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner
> > >>>> Entertainment,
> > >>>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having
> > >>>> quite a
> > >>>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In
> > Atlanta
> > >>>> my
> > >>>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group
> > job
> > >>>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how
> much
> > >>>> that
> > >>>> advice is worth.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Dale
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert
> > Taylor > >>>>
> > >>>>> >wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  Greetings,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I&

Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Wes Wannemacher]

damnit, sorry, I hit reply, but didn't pay attention to where it was going
:(

Sorry about that.

-Wes

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Patrick Cosmo wrote:

> Wes, why do I want to know this? Can't you email Robert directly:
> rtay...@dtgresults.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wes Wannemacher [mailto:w...@wantii.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:09 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
>
> I'm not in the Atlanta, GA area, I am in Ohio, but I am willing to come
> down
> from time to time. I work as an independent contractor, hopefully that
> isn't
> a problem. If you are interested, let me know and I'll send my resume and
> rates. I will highlight this offer by mentioning that I am a PMC member of
> the Struts team. You can check that here -
>
> http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html
>
> <http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html>-Wes
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Robert Taylor
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Currently we are only considering candidates in the Atlanta, GA area.
> > Telecommuting is an option; however, you will be required to be onsite
> > at various times.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > /robert
> > - Original Message - From: "Mohamed SIDI" 
> >
> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:41 AM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
> >
> >
> >  Hello there,
> >>
> >> This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch
> is
> >> located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)
> >>
> >> 2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 
> >>
> >>  Hi Dale,
> >>>
> >>> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
> >>> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
> >>> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
> >>> for Java developers.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the advice.
> >>>
> >>> /robert
> >>> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 
> >>>
> >>> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
> >>>
> >>> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  does'nt dale live down there?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these
> >>>> parts
> >>>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last
> >>>> year, so
> >>>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm
> no
> >>>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner
> >>>> Entertainment,
> >>>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having
> >>>> quite a
> >>>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In
> Atlanta
> >>>> my
> >>>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group
> job
> >>>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much
> >>>> that
> >>>> advice is worth.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Dale
> >>>>
> >>>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert
> Taylor >>>>
> >>>>> >wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Greetings,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
> >>>>>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts
> developers.
> >>>>>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these
> open
> >>>>>>> positions.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> /robert
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> -
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Cordialement
> >>
> >> Mohamed
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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>
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RE: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Patrick Cosmo]

Wes, why do I want to know this? Can't you email Robert directly:
rtay...@dtgresults.com


-Original Message-
From: Wes Wannemacher [mailto:w...@wantii.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:09 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

I'm not in the Atlanta, GA area, I am in Ohio, but I am willing to come
down
from time to time. I work as an independent contractor, hopefully that
isn't
a problem. If you are interested, let me know and I'll send my resume and
rates. I will highlight this offer by mentioning that I am a PMC member of
the Struts team. You can check that here -

http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html

<http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html>-Wes

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Robert Taylor
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Currently we are only considering candidates in the Atlanta, GA area.
> Telecommuting is an option; however, you will be required to be onsite
> at various times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> /robert
> - Original Message - From: "Mohamed SIDI" 
>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:41 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
>
>
>  Hello there,
>>
>> This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch
is
>> located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)
>>
>> 2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 
>>
>>  Hi Dale,
>>>
>>> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
>>> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
>>> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
>>> for Java developers.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advice.
>>>
>>> /robert
>>> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 
>>>
>>> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  does'nt dale live down there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these
>>>> parts
>>>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last
>>>> year, so
>>>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm
no
>>>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner
>>>> Entertainment,
>>>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having
>>>> quite a
>>>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In
Atlanta
>>>> my
>>>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group
job
>>>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much
>>>> that
>>>> advice is worth.
>>>>
>>>> -Dale
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert
Taylor>>>
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
>>>>>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts
developers.
>>>>>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these
open
>>>>>>> positions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Cordialement
>>
>> Mohamed
>>
>>
>
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Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Wes Wannemacher]

I'm not in the Atlanta, GA area, I am in Ohio, but I am willing to come down
from time to time. I work as an independent contractor, hopefully that isn't
a problem. If you are interested, let me know and I'll send my resume and
rates. I will highlight this offer by mentioning that I am a PMC member of
the Struts team. You can check that here -

http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html

<http://struts.apache.org/dev/volunteers.html>-Wes

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Robert Taylor wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Currently we are only considering candidates in the Atlanta, GA area.
> Telecommuting is an option; however, you will be required to be onsite
> at various times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> /robert
> - Original Message - From: "Mohamed SIDI" 
>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:41 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings
>
>
>  Hello there,
>>
>> This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch is
>> located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)
>>
>> 2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 
>>
>>  Hi Dale,
>>>
>>> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
>>> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
>>> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
>>> for Java developers.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advice.
>>>
>>> /robert
>>> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 
>>>
>>> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  does'nt dale live down there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these
>>>> parts
>>>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last
>>>> year, so
>>>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm no
>>>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner
>>>> Entertainment,
>>>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having
>>>> quite a
>>>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta
>>>> my
>>>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job
>>>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much
>>>> that
>>>> advice is worth.
>>>>
>>>> -Dale
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylor>>>
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
>>>>>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
>>>>>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
>>>>>>> positions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Cordialement
>>
>> Mohamed
>>
>>
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RE: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Patrick Cosmo]

Can interested people please have this conversation with Robert privately,
instead of on the list. I don't need to see all the back and forth on
this.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rtay...@dtgresults.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:01 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

Hello,

Currently we are only considering candidates in the Atlanta, GA area.
Telecommuting is an option; however, you will be required to be onsite
at various times.

Thanks,

/robert
- Original Message -
From: "Mohamed SIDI" 
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings


> Hello there,
>
> This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch
is
> located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)
>
> 2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 
>
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
>> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
>> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
>> for Java developers.
>>
>> Thanks for the advice.
>>
>> /robert
>> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 
>>
>> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
>>
>> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
>>
>>
>>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
>>>
>>>> does'nt dale live down there?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these
>>> parts
>>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last
>>> year, so
>>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm no
>>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner
>>> Entertainment,
>>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having
>>> quite a
>>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In
Atlanta
>>> my
>>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job
>>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much
>>> that
>>> advice is worth.
>>>
>>> -Dale
>>>
>>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylor>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
>>>>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts
developers.
>>>>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these
open
>>>>>> positions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Cordialement
>
> Mohamed
>


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Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Robert Taylor]

Hello,

Currently we are only considering candidates in the Atlanta, GA area.
Telecommuting is an option; however, you will be required to be onsite
at various times.

Thanks,

/robert
- Original Message - 
From: "Mohamed SIDI" 

To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings



Hello there,

This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch is
located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)

2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 


Hi Dale,

We have a posting on the AJUG site.
I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
for Java developers.

Thanks for the advice.

/robert
- Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 

To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM

Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings


 On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:



does'nt dale live down there?



Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these 
parts
lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last 
year, so

I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm no
longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner 
Entertainment,
and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having 
quite a
difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta 
my

first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job
mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much 
that

advice is worth.

-Dale

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylor
>wrote:

 Greetings,


I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
positions.

/robert




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Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[sjmedina . rosa]

And one who is located in Domincan Republic?

Hehehe




Sent via BlackBerry® device.

-Original Message-
From: Mohamed SIDI 
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:41:34 
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

Hello there,

This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch is
located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)

2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 

> Hi Dale,
>
> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
> for Java developers.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> /robert
> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 
>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
>
> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
>
>
>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
>>
>>> does'nt dale live down there?
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these parts
>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last year, so
>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm no
>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner Entertainment,
>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having quite a
>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta my
>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job
>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much that
>> advice is worth.
>>
>> -Dale
>>
>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylor>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
>>>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
>>>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
>>>>> positions.
>>>>>
>>>>> /robert
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Mohamed SIDI]

Hello there,

This may be one of the most important opportunity what about one witch is
located in France ? there are some conditions to candidate :)

2011/5/26 Robert Taylor 

> Hi Dale,
>
> We have a posting on the AJUG site.
> I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
> When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
> for Java developers.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> /robert
> - Original Message - From: "Dale Newfield" 
>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
>
> Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings
>
>
>  On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
>>
>>> does'nt dale live down there?
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these parts
>> lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last year, so
>> I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm no
>> longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner Entertainment,
>> and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having quite a
>> difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta my
>> first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job
>> mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much that
>> advice is worth.
>>
>> -Dale
>>
>>  On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylor>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
>>>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
>>>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
>>>>> positions.
>>>>>
>>>>> /robert
>>>>>
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Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[Robert Taylor]

Hi Dale,

We have a posting on the AJUG site.
I've also been to the latest AJUG meetings.
When I was there, 6 companies stood up and declared many openings
for Java developers.

Thanks for the advice.

/robert
- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Newfield" 

To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings



On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:

does'nt dale live down there?


Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these parts 
lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of last year, 
so I no longer have as much time to respond to questions here, and I'm no 
longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at Turner Entertainment, 
and we're also looking for senior level folks, but we've been having quite 
a difficult time finding well qualified candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta 
my first suggestion would be to post to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job 
mailing list, but seeing as we're still looking I'm not sure how much that 
advice is worth.


-Dale

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert 
Taylorwrote:



Greetings,

I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
positions.

/robert


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Re: [OT] Re: Job postings

[frans]

I am leading jug in indonesia

Try to make struts2 as default framework, combine s2 spring hibernate

Extend the struts2 plugins and spring datasource to more wider

We are not english speaking country

I am glad can share our program, may be can start do something together


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-Original Message-
From: Dale Newfield 
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:06:30 
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
Subject: [OT] Re: Job postings

On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
> does'nt dale live down there?

Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these 
parts lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of 
last year, so I no longer have as much time to respond to questions 
here, and I'm no longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at 
Turner Entertainment, and we're also looking for senior level folks, but 
we've been having quite a difficult time finding well qualified 
candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta my first suggestion would be to post 
to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job mailing list, but seeing as we're 
still looking I'm not sure how much that advice is worth.

-Dale

>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylorwrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
>>> My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
>>> I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
>>> positions.
>>>
>>> /robert

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[OT] Re: Job postings

[Dale Newfield]

On 5/26/11 7:51 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:

does'nt dale live down there?


Thanks for thinking of me.  The reason I've been scarce around these 
parts lately is that I finally had to get a "real" job at the end of 
last year, so I no longer have as much time to respond to questions 
here, and I'm no longer in the market for a job.  I'm now working at 
Turner Entertainment, and we're also looking for senior level folks, but 
we've been having quite a difficult time finding well qualified 
candidates ourselves.  In Atlanta my first suggestion would be to post 
to the Atlanta Java Users' Group job mailing list, but seeing as we're 
still looking I'm not sure how much that advice is worth.


-Dale


On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Robert Taylorwrote:


Greetings,

I'm a Java team lead for a company in Atlanta Ga.
My team has 2 positions open for senior level Java/Struts developers.
I was wondering if its okay to post on this list regarding these open
positions.

/robert


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[OT] RE: S2 TEst Best Practices

[Dave Newton]

On May 20, 2011 9:18 AM, "Miguel" wrote:
> An interesting view on this from Gojko Adzic seems to almost suggest
> these tests should be avoided:

I read it more as "do them right".

Dave

[OT] Re: Unable to add value in

[Dave Newton]

Not really.

You'd be better off checking out applet documentation/tutorials I think.

Dave
On May 19, 2011 11:31 PM, "vivek mishra"  wrote:
> Ok. How an applet can work in this situation .. can you please point me to
> the trick..your help is much appreciated Dave..
>
> Although it should have this capability .. I am stuck with this
requirement
> which has
> turn into a big problem from a small looking requirement..
>
>
> Thanks!
> -- Vivek
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Dave Newton 
wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, maybe ActiveX, Flash, or an applet. I'd imagine that
>> capability was deliberately excluded to avoid any possibility of
>> security-related issues (but don't know if that's why).
>>
>> Dave
>> On May 19, 2011 10:22 PM, "vivek mishra"  wrote:
>> > Thanks for the reply Dave. Is there any other trick from which we can
>> > achieve this scenario?
>> >
>> > -- Vivek
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Dave Newton 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can't do that.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:04 PM, vivek mishra <
mishravive...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi list,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am trying to add some value in  but unable to do this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is my code:
>> >> > > >> styleId=*
>> >> > "frmTxtAttachment"* style=*"width:300px"*
>> >> >
>> >> > ** value=*"> >> />"*
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I am getting value in *> >> > property='attachPath' /> , but it's not getting set in*
>> >> >
>> >> > *as as value of .*
>> >> >
>> >> > *Any help will be much appreciated !!*
>> >> >
>> >> > *Thanks and Regards,*
>> >> >
>> >> > *-- Vivek Mishra*
>> >> >
>> >> > * *
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[OT] Re: error JSTL

[Dave Newton]

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Mohamed SIDI wrote:
> Static attribute must be a String literal, its illegal to specify an 
> expression

Did you try searching the web for an answer? Sometimes just copying an
error message verbatim is enough.

Dave

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RE: [OT] Re: Iterator tag and enumeration

[Biesbrock, Kevin]

Touché.  I've only been speaking English my whole life...

Beez 
 

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> Subject: [OT] Re: Iterator tag and enumeration
> 
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Biesbrock, Kevin wrote:
> > This peaked my interest [...]
> 
> Piqued, piqued.
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[OT] Re: Iterator tag and enumeration

[Dave Newton]

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Biesbrock, Kevin wrote:
> This peaked my interest [...]

Piqued, piqued.

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[OT] Re: How to implement wordpress like themes?

[Dave Newton]

Same answer as the first time, although you might want to consider
abstracting themes at a higher level instead of just hiding sections via
CSS. But this is pretty off-topic.

d
On Apr 25, 2011 8:05 AM, "rocklee"  wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Thanks for your reply. Different theme maybe has different sections. For
> example, the index.jsp page of theme1 maybe contains a "latest news"
> section, but in theme2, there is a "popular products" section but no
"latest
> news" section. How to achieve this?
>
> Best Regards,
> Lee
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Dave Newton-6 [via Struts] <
> ml-node+4338026-1810801222-201...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
>
>> Use CSS and include a different one for each theme. See the CSS Zen
garden
>> site for examples of what can be done with pure CSS.
>>
>> Dave
>> On Apr 25, 2011 3:29 AM, "rocklee" <[hidden email]<
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>> wrote:
>> > I want to implement wordpress like themes, one application has
different
>> > themes, the template in each theme maybe have different layout and
>> contains
>> > different sections. User can select which theme to use. I thought there
>> will
>>
>> > be a folder with different themes, like following:
>> >
>> > web
>> > - WEB-INF
>> > - themes
>> > - theme1
>> > - index.jsp
>> > - header.jsp
>> > - footer.jsp
>> > ...
>> > - theme2
>> > - index.jsp
>> > - header.jsp
>> > - footer.jsp
>> > ...
>> >
>> > I have been researching struts2 themes and templates, it seems the
>> struts2
>> > themes is for detail ui components like a button, a dropdown etc. It
has
>> > different meaning than wordpress themes. I'm not sure where to start.
Any
>>
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[OT] RE: Using Strut in Desktop Application

[Dave Newton]

As far as I know it'd run on any server, but you'd be better off talking to
to Sonar folks about that.

d.
 On Apr 20, 2011 5:50 AM, "Alok"  wrote:
>
> Is it possible to use Sonar to run on embedded server?
>
>
>
>
>
> Please explain in some detail.
>
>
>
>
> Keenly waiting for your reply.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alok
>
>
>
>
> From: Dave Newton-6 [via Struts]
> [mailto:ml-node+4315353-1426382771-199...@n5.nabble.com]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:16 PM
> To: Singh, Alok (Cognizant)
> Subject: RE: Using Strut in Desktop Application
>
>
>
>
> Why a "desktop" app? And even if you're dead-set on that, why not run an
>
> embedded server? Sonar is a web app.
>
>
> Dave
>
> On Apr 20, 2011 2:38 AM, "Alok" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>
>> I am trying to create an Desktop Application which function as Code
>
>> Review for COBOL.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Input- Cobol File(s) which will be parsed first using Cobol Parser.
>
>> Parsed Data will be sent to maven check the code quality which in turn
>
>> returns some output. That output will be pumped in Sonar (or Report
>
>> Generation tool as Sonar is web Based utility). It will be shown
> through
>
>> UI.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Concept is like parsing the Cobol file first. Saving the data in
>
>> Database. Reviewing the data against some rules which will check
> weather
>
>> , code is as per defined rules. Now we need to use this output to
>
>> generate some report .
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Questions:
>
>>
>
>> 1. Can we use Sonar for Desktop Application?
>
>>
>
>> 2. Does maven build the application only or Input , here Cobol
>
>> Files.
>
>>
>
>> 3. Can we use Sonar to generate report?
>
>>
>
>> 4. Which framework will be better for such application?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Regards,
>
>>
>
>> Thanks in advance,
>
>>
>
>> Alok
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> From: akinsgre [via Struts]
>
>> [mailto:[hidden email]]
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>>
>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:17 PM
>
>> To: Singh, Alok (Cognizant)
>
>> Subject: Re: Using Strut in Desktop Application
>
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>>
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>>
>
>>
>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Alok <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>> Hi Team,
>
>>
>
>>> I am working on a Desktop application. I would like to use
>
>> Strut
>
>>
>
>>> frame in it. Is it possible?
>
>>
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>> I noticed you also posted this question, regarding Maven, to the Maven
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>> list.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Struts is a web framework afterall. Are you hoping to use some of the
>
>>
>
>> controller aspects in a Desktop application?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Maybe it would be better if you explain more about what you're hoping
> to
>
>>
>
>> achieve by integrating Struts into a Desktop application.
>
>>
>
>>
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Re: [OT] Re: Could somebody tell me where can I find struts2 sample maven archetypes?

[Dave Newton]

Yeah; it's mind-boggling. I especially appreciate when it's translated
into multiple languages (inline) or a link I actually have to *visit*
in order to read it (which seems the worst of both worlds).

Meh.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Nick Broadhurst  wrote:
> It only matters when you don't have one. How
> ironic
> .
>
>
> Nick
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Dave Newton  wrote:
>
>> I knew there had to be something more annoying than the reams of legalese
>> some people think is useful in a .sig.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:38 AM, webmeiker  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Working with Eclipse & m2eclipse maven Eclipse plugin,
>> >
>> > Could somebody tell me where can I find struts2 sample maven archetypes?
>> >
>> > For all the Catalog files I found, when I try to add as Remote Archetype
>> > Catalog, Eclipse dialog window says that ‘Remote catalog is empty’.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > [image: Image 16.jpg]
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Re: [OT] Re: Could somebody tell me where can I find struts2 sample maven archetypes?

[Nick Broadhurst]

Dave,

It only matters when you don't have one. How
ironic
.


Nick

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> I knew there had to be something more annoying than the reams of legalese
> some people think is useful in a .sig.
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:38 AM, webmeiker  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Working with Eclipse & m2eclipse maven Eclipse plugin,
> >
> > Could somebody tell me where can I find struts2 sample maven archetypes?
> >
> > For all the Catalog files I found, when I try to add as Remote Archetype
> > Catalog, Eclipse dialog window says that ‘Remote catalog is empty’.
> >
> > Thanks
> > [image: Image 16.jpg]
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
>

[OT] Re: Could somebody tell me where can I find struts2 sample maven archetypes?

[Dave Newton]

I knew there had to be something more annoying than the reams of legalese
some people think is useful in a .sig.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:38 AM, webmeiker  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Working with Eclipse & m2eclipse maven Eclipse plugin,
>
> Could somebody tell me where can I find struts2 sample maven archetypes?
>
> For all the Catalog files I found, when I try to add as Remote Archetype
> Catalog, Eclipse dialog window says that ‘Remote catalog is empty’.
>
> Thanks
> [image: Image 16.jpg]
>
> --
>
>
>

[Maybe OT] Integration of a WSRP portlet into a Struts app.

[JOSE L MARTINEZ-AVIAL]

Hi,
  I've been using Struts 2 the last few months to write a web app for our
users. It works fine, but now I'm facing the challenge of integrating a
third part applicacion (Microstrategy) into my app. MS provides support to
portlets and WSRP, so my idea is to provide a page in my app that will show
the MS page through WSRP. But my app is not a portal, so I'm a bit lost on
how I can integrate the portlet. I've seen Apache Pluto, which can work, but
it does no support WSRP, and my app runs on a diferente server that MS, so
it seems it's not an option. I can not use an Iframe (my first approach)
since my app will be exposed to Internet, and MS will not be exposed, so
it's not accesible from the browser.

Any suggestions? has anybody doing something like this?

   thanks

Jose Luis

Re: [OT] Re: Need your inputs.

[Mohamed SIDI]

Hi,

In JQuery you have a function named serailize, this function will serialize
all your form's input I'm not sure about the exactly syntaxe but some things
like "yourFormID.serialize()"

B.W

2011/3/22 Dave Newton 

> Have you considered looking at the jQuery documentation?
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:19 AM, sharath karnati 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> >We are using JQuery + Struts2 + Spring framework(DAO)
> >
> >Do you have any examples how to process 'Serialize the DOM'
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sharath.
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 3/21/11, Dave Newton * wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Newton 
> > Subject: [OT] Re: Need your inputs.
> > To: "sharath karnati" 
> > Cc: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> > Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 6:10 PM
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:04 PM, sharath karnati wrote:
> > > Can you please send me links/details for doing this(Serialize the DOM)?
> >
> > What JavaScript framework are you using?
> >
> > (I'd really just try [search engine of choice] first, though--much,
> > much faster than waiting on the list.)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
>



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Re: [OT] Re: Need your inputs.

[Dave Newton]

Have you considered looking at the jQuery documentation?

Dave

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:19 AM, sharath karnati  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
>We are using JQuery + Struts2 + Spring framework(DAO)
>
>Do you have any examples how to process 'Serialize the DOM'
>
> Thanks,
> Sharath.
>
> --- On *Mon, 3/21/11, Dave Newton * wrote:
>
>
> From: Dave Newton 
> Subject: [OT] Re: Need your inputs.
> To: "sharath karnati" 
> Cc: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 6:10 PM
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:04 PM, sharath karnati wrote:
> > Can you please send me links/details for doing this(Serialize the DOM)?
>
> What JavaScript framework are you using?
>
> (I'd really just try [search engine of choice] first, though--much,
> much faster than waiting on the list.)
>
> Dave
>
>
>

Re: [OT] Re: Need your inputs.

[sharath karnati]

Hi Dave,
 
   We are using JQuery + Struts2 + Spring framework(DAO)
 
   Do you have any examples how to process 'Serialize the DOM'
 
Thanks,
Sharath.

--- On Mon, 3/21/11, Dave Newton  wrote:


From: Dave Newton 
Subject: [OT] Re: Need your inputs.
To: "sharath karnati" 
Cc: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 6:10 PM


On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:04 PM, sharath karnati wrote:
> Can you please send me links/details for doing this(Serialize the DOM)?

What JavaScript framework are you using?

(I'd really just try [search engine of choice] first, though--much,
much faster than waiting on the list.)

Dave



  

[OT] Re: Need your inputs.

[Dave Newton]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:04 PM, sharath karnati wrote:
> Can you please send me links/details for doing this(Serialize the DOM)?

What JavaScript framework are you using?

(I'd really just try [search engine of choice] first, though--much,
much faster than waiting on the list.)

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Re: [maybe OT] Detecting if a new window or tab was opened (server-side)

[Brian Thompson]

CTRL-click?
Shift-click?
Configure the browser to open all links in new tabs?  I'm pretty sure you
can do that in Firefox.

And please don't suggest blocking mouse events.  I like to use those
features, and I really hate it when sites try to hijack my browser that
way.  It's one of the more user-hostile things you can do.


On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Maurizio Cucchiara <
maurizio.cucchi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why would you track a window open event?
> I don't know what exactly your requirements are but I think it should be
> quite simple to /intercept/block/change every mouse click event which is
> not  the left click event through javascript.
>
> Maurizio Cucchiara
>
> Il giorno 16/mar/2011 22.26, "Wes Wannemacher"  ha
> scritto:
> Does anyone know of a good trick to detect whether a new window or tab
> was opened by the user...
>
> Here is the scenario, a user is looking at a view and he/she
> right-clicks one of the links and chooses to open the link in a new
> tab or window. The original view and the new tab or window will share
> the session, but I'd like to know that there are two windows (or tabs)
> interacting with the site.
>
> I thought about trying to track the referrers as requests come in, but
> I get stumped when I realize that a user can re-visit a page.
>
> There are some javascript mechanisms, but by the time I can detect
> from javascript that a window is new, the response is already being
> rendered (committed).
>
> Here is one link I found, but the code is poorly formatted making the
> example difficult to follow -
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/sarittechworld/track-client-windows
>
> -Wes
>
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Re: [maybe OT] Detecting if a new window or tab was opened (server-side)

[Maurizio Cucchiara]

Why would you track a window open event?
I don't know what exactly your requirements are but I think it should be
quite simple to /intercept/block/change every mouse click event which is
not  the left click event through javascript.

Maurizio Cucchiara

Il giorno 16/mar/2011 22.26, "Wes Wannemacher"  ha scritto:
Does anyone know of a good trick to detect whether a new window or tab
was opened by the user...

Here is the scenario, a user is looking at a view and he/she
right-clicks one of the links and chooses to open the link in a new
tab or window. The original view and the new tab or window will share
the session, but I'd like to know that there are two windows (or tabs)
interacting with the site.

I thought about trying to track the referrers as requests come in, but
I get stumped when I realize that a user can re-visit a page.

There are some javascript mechanisms, but by the time I can detect
from javascript that a window is new, the response is already being
rendered (committed).

Here is one link I found, but the code is poorly formatted making the
example difficult to follow -

https://sites.google.com/site/sarittechworld/track-client-windows

-Wes

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Re: [maybe OT] Detecting if a new window or tab was opened (server-side)

[stanlick]

Your questions are too difficult!  Can you please rephrase?

Peace,
Scott

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Wes Wannemacher  wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good trick to detect whether a new window or tab
> was opened by the user...
>
> Here is the scenario, a user is looking at a view and he/she
> right-clicks one of the links and chooses to open the link in a new
> tab or window. The original view and the new tab or window will share
> the session, but I'd like to know that there are two windows (or tabs)
> interacting with the site.
>
> I thought about trying to track the referrers as requests come in, but
> I get stumped when I realize that a user can re-visit a page.
>
> There are some javascript mechanisms, but by the time I can detect
> from javascript that a window is new, the response is already being
> rendered (committed).
>
> Here is one link I found, but the code is poorly formatted making the
> example difficult to follow -
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/sarittechworld/track-client-windows
>
> -Wes
>
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>
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[maybe OT] Detecting if a new window or tab was opened (server-side)

[Wes Wannemacher]

Does anyone know of a good trick to detect whether a new window or tab
was opened by the user...

Here is the scenario, a user is looking at a view and he/she
right-clicks one of the links and chooses to open the link in a new
tab or window. The original view and the new tab or window will share
the session, but I'd like to know that there are two windows (or tabs)
interacting with the site.

I thought about trying to track the referrers as requests come in, but
I get stumped when I realize that a user can re-visit a page.

There are some javascript mechanisms, but by the time I can detect
from javascript that a window is new, the response is already being
rendered (committed).

Here is one link I found, but the code is poorly formatted making the
example difficult to follow -

https://sites.google.com/site/sarittechworld/track-client-windows

-Wes

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Re: [OT] Re: Just a stab in the dark

[Alex Lopez]

I think they ment DSL as in Domain Specific Language

Em 14-03-2011 14:06, Brian Thompson escreveu:

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Dave Newton  wrote:


On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Adam Hardy wrote:

But for the future I am writing an app where the user can upload a file

of

data and specify the input using that printf/scanf pattern description,

and

output the same data into new file with a new format according to a

secocnd

pattern. It's OHLC historical data from the financial markets, and it

must

be in the correct format for importing into various different analysis
programs.


DSL. In fact a guy at the Clojure NYC meetup did this exact thing (for
financial data, in clojure) to generate all the Java APIs needed to
consume/write the data files.




For the sake of us poor, clueless lurkers, would you mind defining DSL in
this context?  All I can think of is DSL as in Internet service, but I can
tell from context that it's not the right definition.

Brian





Groovy or JRuby might be a better choice depending on how averse you
are to toenail-based languages, but this is precisely the kind of
thing DSLs are good for, and it's a lot easier to remember a
human-readable DSL than the scanf spec, and it'd be easier to add
domain-specific data types.

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Re: [OT] Re: Just a stab in the dark

[Brian Thompson]

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Dave Newton  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Adam Hardy wrote:
> > But for the future I am writing an app where the user can upload a file
> of
> > data and specify the input using that printf/scanf pattern description,
> and
> > output the same data into new file with a new format according to a
> secocnd
> > pattern. It's OHLC historical data from the financial markets, and it
> must
> > be in the correct format for importing into various different analysis
> > programs.
>
> DSL. In fact a guy at the Clojure NYC meetup did this exact thing (for
> financial data, in clojure) to generate all the Java APIs needed to
> consume/write the data files.
>


For the sake of us poor, clueless lurkers, would you mind defining DSL in
this context?  All I can think of is DSL as in Internet service, but I can
tell from context that it's not the right definition.

Brian



>
> Groovy or JRuby might be a better choice depending on how averse you
> are to toenail-based languages, but this is precisely the kind of
> thing DSLs are good for, and it's a lot easier to remember a
> human-readable DSL than the scanf spec, and it'd be easier to add
> domain-specific data types.
>
> Dave
>
>

Re: [OT] Re: Just a stab in the dark

[Dave Newton]

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Adam Hardy wrote:
> But for the future I am writing an app where the user can upload a file of
> data and specify the input using that printf/scanf pattern description, and
> output the same data into new file with a new format according to a secocnd
> pattern. It's OHLC historical data from the financial markets, and it must
> be in the correct format for importing into various different analysis
> programs.

DSL. In fact a guy at the Clojure NYC meetup did this exact thing (for
financial data, in clojure) to generate all the Java APIs needed to
consume/write the data files.

Groovy or JRuby might be a better choice depending on how averse you
are to toenail-based languages, but this is precisely the kind of
thing DSLs are good for, and it's a lot easier to remember a
human-readable DSL than the scanf spec, and it'd be easier to add
domain-specific data types.

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Re: [OT] Re: Just a stab in the dark

[Adam Hardy]

A micro-DSL ? I should know this stuff, I think my brain is going. What's DSL in 
this context?


Re: needing all of scanf: not right now I don't need it. I actually need 
anything like last week already - spent too long staring at tv scenes of 
exploding nuclear reactors and wasteland where towns used to be over the weekend.


But for the future I am writing an app where the user can upload a file of data 
and specify the input using that printf/scanf pattern description, and output 
the same data into new file with a new format according to a secocnd pattern. 
It's OHLC historical data from the financial markets, and it must be in the 
correct format for importing into various different analysis programs.




Dave Newton on 14/03/11 11:22, wrote:

Do you really need all of scanf's functionality?

If I were approaching this I'd probably consider writing some sort of
transform between scanf functionality and an underlying
implementation; a micro-DSL, more or less.

Dave

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Adam Hardy
 wrote:

Matt Meola on 14/03/11 00:04, wrote:

On 03/12/2011 05:57 AM, Adam Hardy wrote:

Hi List

this is a bit OT but it's the weekend and I have a question which I am
desperate to answer and my googling skills are no match for it.

Does anyone know where I can get a Java implementation of scanf?

Does java.text.MessageFormat.parse() perhaps meet at least some of your
needs?

This might actually be a quicker way to do exactly what I need to do now, I
mean quicker than Scanner. Thanks for the great tip.

However it has 2 drawbacks in comparison with C's scanf - it doesn't take
the same symbols and formatting in its pattern as printf, and it can't
handle multiple occurrences of the same variable in the pattern.



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[OT] Re: Just a stab in the dark

[Dave Newton]

Do you really need all of scanf's functionality?

If I were approaching this I'd probably consider writing some sort of
transform between scanf functionality and an underlying
implementation; a micro-DSL, more or less.

Dave

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Adam Hardy
 wrote:
> Matt Meola on 14/03/11 00:04, wrote:
>>
>> On 03/12/2011 05:57 AM, Adam Hardy wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi List
>>>
>>> this is a bit OT but it's the weekend and I have a question which I am
>>> desperate to answer and my googling skills are no match for it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where I can get a Java implementation of scanf?
>>
>> Does java.text.MessageFormat.parse() perhaps meet at least some of your
>> needs?
>
> This might actually be a quicker way to do exactly what I need to do now, I
> mean quicker than Scanner. Thanks for the great tip.
>
> However it has 2 drawbacks in comparison with C's scanf - it doesn't take
> the same symbols and formatting in its pattern as printf, and it can't
> handle multiple occurrences of the same variable in the pattern.
>
> Regards
> Adam
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Re: OT static resources, cache control, and versioning

[Jordi Fernández]

You can reference every static content with:

/js/site.js?version=

If using Maven or Ant, in the building process generate a timestamp
and substitute it wherever applicable.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Greg Lindholm  wrote:
> I'm trying to find out what are the "Best Practices" and if there are
> any utilities available to assist with versioning of static resources
> and cache-control.
>
> I'm working on an application (written with Struts 2) that uses a
> filter to apply cache-control headers to the static resources,
> javascript, css, and image files.
>
> The problem is we are having frequent releases to production and
> user's browser's will have cached previous versions of the 'static'
> resources. Now it is possible for the developers to manually add a
> version number to each static resource file and update that version
> number before each release but that would be a very fragile and error
> prone procedure.  To mitigate the problem we have turned down the
> cache-control down to 1 hour but his is still far from ideal and only
> helps if the browsers obey the max-age setting.
>
> So what are the "Best Practices" and are there any utilities to assist?
>
> Here is the scheme I was considering building:
>
> Use tags to generate the static resource paths so they will include a
> release number in the path.
> So instead of path "/js/site.js" as in this script tag:
>    
> I would generate this with the path "/v1.2.3/js/site.js" where
> "/v1.2.3/" represents the release number:
>    
>
> I would also write a Filter that would look for requests starting with
> the "/v1.2.3/" release number. When it found one it would strip off
> the release from the path and forward it to the actual path and on
> return it would apply the cache-control headers.
>
> I think this would handle the cache-control problem as the browsers
> would cache using the path with the release version and this would
> change with each new release.
>
> Do any utilities like this exist already? (no need to reinvent the
> wheel if they do.)
>
> Greg
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Re: OT static resources, cache control, and versioning

[Maurizio Cucchiara]

I remember I wrote a simple filter coupled with a *jsp* (not a struts)
tag library.
As far as I can remember the tag library worked as resource assembler
for instance:

   
   


So in this specific case the tag library combines this two file in
just one and generates a digest based on the output content. After if
the file doesn't exist tries to write its content in a temporary
directory for instance: /tmp/c6e2e39e982b80529bdba79139aeb4e.js.
Later the servlet filter intercepts the request URL and, if it matches
the resource name,  sends the file content.

In this way you can send the content to the browser with a "never
expire" header.


On 10 February 2011 15:56, Greg Lindholm  wrote:
> I'm trying to find out what are the "Best Practices" and if there are
> any utilities available to assist with versioning of static resources
> and cache-control.
>
> I'm working on an application (written with Struts 2) that uses a
> filter to apply cache-control headers to the static resources,
> javascript, css, and image files.
>
> The problem is we are having frequent releases to production and
> user's browser's will have cached previous versions of the 'static'
> resources. Now it is possible for the developers to manually add a
> version number to each static resource file and update that version
> number before each release but that would be a very fragile and error
> prone procedure.  To mitigate the problem we have turned down the
> cache-control down to 1 hour but his is still far from ideal and only
> helps if the browsers obey the max-age setting.
>
> So what are the "Best Practices" and are there any utilities to assist?
>
> Here is the scheme I was considering building:
>
> Use tags to generate the static resource paths so they will include a
> release number in the path.
> So instead of path "/js/site.js" as in this script tag:
>    
> I would generate this with the path "/v1.2.3/js/site.js" where
> "/v1.2.3/" represents the release number:
>    
>
> I would also write a Filter that would look for requests starting with
> the "/v1.2.3/" release number. When it found one it would strip off
> the release from the path and forward it to the actual path and on
> return it would apply the cache-control headers.
>
> I think this would handle the cache-control problem as the browsers
> would cache using the path with the release version and this would
> change with each new release.
>
> Do any utilities like this exist already? (no need to reinvent the
> wheel if they do.)
>
> Greg
>
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OT static resources, cache control, and versioning

[Greg Lindholm]

I'm trying to find out what are the "Best Practices" and if there are
any utilities available to assist with versioning of static resources
and cache-control.

I'm working on an application (written with Struts 2) that uses a
filter to apply cache-control headers to the static resources,
javascript, css, and image files.

The problem is we are having frequent releases to production and
user's browser's will have cached previous versions of the 'static'
resources. Now it is possible for the developers to manually add a
version number to each static resource file and update that version
number before each release but that would be a very fragile and error
prone procedure.  To mitigate the problem we have turned down the
cache-control down to 1 hour but his is still far from ideal and only
helps if the browsers obey the max-age setting.

So what are the "Best Practices" and are there any utilities to assist?

Here is the scheme I was considering building:

Use tags to generate the static resource paths so they will include a
release number in the path.
So instead of path "/js/site.js" as in this script tag:

I would generate this with the path "/v1.2.3/js/site.js" where
"/v1.2.3/" represents the release number:


I would also write a Filter that would look for requests starting with
the "/v1.2.3/" release number. When it found one it would strip off
the release from the path and forward it to the actual path and on
return it would apply the cache-control headers.

I think this would handle the cache-control problem as the browsers
would cache using the path with the release version and this would
change with each new release.

Do any utilities like this exist already? (no need to reinvent the
wheel if they do.)

Greg

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Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Newton]

I'd probably start here, although I'm not sure if it's really what you
wanted--memory is still a little hazy on this one.

http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/embedded-jsp-plugin.html

Dave

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Dave Newton  wrote:
> I'd just search back through the list archives; I don't recall if it was in
> user or dev. Around 2008-2009-ish (perhaps a smidge earlier?), Musachy was
> the main driver, and I'm pretty sure he was using something out of Tomcat.
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Dave Evans  wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dave Newton 
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dave Evans wrote:
>> >
>> > I am thinking about trying to duplicate/re-use/wrap/etc jstl in a
>> >> framework for use in a non-web templates, just trying to find out if
>> >> there is already work being done on this idea. Maybe I'll check in on
>> >> the tomcat user list.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Why not check the stuff I already mentioned? There's a lot of back-end
>> > work
>> > to get things into a context that a JSP engine can use, which is why
>> > testing
>> > JSP fragments is horrible and is done through a container. Hence
>> > Musachy's
>> > work, to avoid that.
>>
>> Do you know where that project is or what its called?
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Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Newton]

I'd just search back through the list archives; I don't recall if it was in
user or dev. Around 2008-2009-ish (perhaps a smidge earlier?), Musachy was
the main driver, and I'm pretty sure he was using something out of Tomcat.

Dave

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Dave Evans  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dave Newton 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dave Evans wrote:
> >
> > I am thinking about trying to duplicate/re-use/wrap/etc jstl in a
> >> framework for use in a non-web templates, just trying to find out if
> >> there is already work being done on this idea. Maybe I'll check in on
> >> the tomcat user list.
> >>
> >
> > Why not check the stuff I already mentioned? There's a lot of back-end
> work
> > to get things into a context that a JSP engine can use, which is why
> testing
> > JSP fragments is horrible and is done through a container. Hence
> Musachy's
> > work, to avoid that.
>
> Do you know where that project is or what its called?
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Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Evans]

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dave Newton  wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dave Evans wrote:
>
> I am thinking about trying to duplicate/re-use/wrap/etc jstl in a
>> framework for use in a non-web templates, just trying to find out if
>> there is already work being done on this idea. Maybe I'll check in on
>> the tomcat user list.
>>
>
> Why not check the stuff I already mentioned? There's a lot of back-end work
> to get things into a context that a JSP engine can use, which is why testing
> JSP fragments is horrible and is done through a container. Hence Musachy's
> work, to avoid that.

Do you know where that project is or what its called?

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Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Newton]

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dave Evans wrote:

> Would you like to elaborate on what makes it a poor general purpose
> templating language?


XML isn't a templating language, it's a data exchange format. XML is
human-hostile.


> The el is easy to read


The EL itself, maybe. JSP, not so much.


> and can handle nested objects, arrays and maps.


What templating language can't?


> Most importantly, since I choose to use it for my web presentation, I'd
> rather not have an entire other spec to keep track of. Why bother?
>

Because JSP is verbose. And the specs of other templating languages are much
leaner.

I am thinking about trying to duplicate/re-use/wrap/etc jstl in a
> framework for use in a non-web templates, just trying to find out if
> there is already work being done on this idea. Maybe I'll check in on
> the tomcat user list.
>

Why not check the stuff I already mentioned? There's a lot of back-end work
to get things into a context that a JSP engine can use, which is why testing
JSP fragments is horrible and is done through a container. Hence Musachy's
work, to avoid that.

But still ew. Why on earth would I want to type this (eschewing c:out):


${person.firstName}


when I could type this?

#for (person in people)
${person.firstName}
#end

or

<#list people as person)>
${person.firstName}


What do you gain from using JSTL? You can shove the same functionality into
a templating engine that has less cognitive overhead.

What do I *lose* from using JSP? Simplicity. Immediate out-of-container
testing. Lighter-weight. Easier. Exists.

Dave

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Evans]

I am using it primarily for emails, but I need to be able to call the
templatizing method from within a business layer class. Something
like:

Template template = new Template(path);
Map map = getDataForEmail();
String result = template.templatize(map);



On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Chris Pratt  wrote:
> Are you using this for generating emails from web applications?  I developed
> a tag library that allows you to generate text/html emails using JSP and it
> works great with Struts/Tiles/Spring. (It would probably work with
> Freemarker/Velocity as well, I've just never tried it)
>  (*Chris*)
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dave Newton  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave Evans wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, I currently use velocity. But i'd really rather just use a single
>> > "language" for both web and non-web presentation.
>> >
>>
>> Ew. IMO JSP is a poor general-purpose templating language, and makes less
>> sense for non-web presentation.
>>
>> IIRC Musachy banged on the TC JSP engine for testing purposes, you could
>> try
>> that if you're dead-set on doing this. No matter what, you're introducing
>> what I think is a pretty sketchy dependency, almost regardless of which
>> engine you decide to hack out of its server.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>

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Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Evans]

Would you like to elaborate on what makes it a poor general purpose
templating language? The el is easy to read and can handle nested
objects, arrays and maps. Most importantly, since I choose to use it
for my web presentation, I'd rather not have an entire other spec to
keep track of. Why bother?

I am thinking about trying to duplicate/re-use/wrap/etc jstl in a
framework for use in a non-web templates, just trying to find out if
there is already work being done on this idea. Maybe I'll check in on
the tomcat user list.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dave Newton  wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave Evans wrote:
>
>> Yes, I currently use velocity. But i'd really rather just use a single
>> "language" for both web and non-web presentation.
>>
>
> Ew. IMO JSP is a poor general-purpose templating language, and makes less
> sense for non-web presentation.
>
> IIRC Musachy banged on the TC JSP engine for testing purposes, you could try
> that if you're dead-set on doing this. No matter what, you're introducing
> what I think is a pretty sketchy dependency, almost regardless of which
> engine you decide to hack out of its server.
>
> Dave
>

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Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Chris Pratt]

Are you using this for generating emails from web applications?  I developed
a tag library that allows you to generate text/html emails using JSP and it
works great with Struts/Tiles/Spring. (It would probably work with
Freemarker/Velocity as well, I've just never tried it)
  (*Chris*)

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dave Newton  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave Evans wrote:
>
> > Yes, I currently use velocity. But i'd really rather just use a single
> > "language" for both web and non-web presentation.
> >
>
> Ew. IMO JSP is a poor general-purpose templating language, and makes less
> sense for non-web presentation.
>
> IIRC Musachy banged on the TC JSP engine for testing purposes, you could
> try
> that if you're dead-set on doing this. No matter what, you're introducing
> what I think is a pretty sketchy dependency, almost regardless of which
> engine you decide to hack out of its server.
>
> Dave
>

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Newton]

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave Evans wrote:

> Yes, I currently use velocity. But i'd really rather just use a single
> "language" for both web and non-web presentation.
>

Ew. IMO JSP is a poor general-purpose templating language, and makes less
sense for non-web presentation.

IIRC Musachy banged on the TC JSP engine for testing purposes, you could try
that if you're dead-set on doing this. No matter what, you're introducing
what I think is a pretty sketchy dependency, almost regardless of which
engine you decide to hack out of its server.

Dave

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Evans]

Yes, I currently use velocity. But i'd really rather just use a single
"language" for both web and non-web presentation.

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara
 wrote:
> Personally, I prefer velocity [1] or freemarker [2]. They have a good
> learning curve (especially velocity), they were designed for
> templating tasks and yes, both of them have the tags you mentioned.
>
> [1] http://velocity.apache.org/
> [2] http://freemarker.sourceforge.net
>
> On 29 January 2011 05:25, Dave Evans  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does anyone know of any way of using the jstl core library and el for
>> generic templating tasks? Specifically I need to use a templating
>> language to create the body of an email. I'd like to use the jstl el
>> and the c:if and c:forEach tags to do it. I seem to remember some sort
>> of jsr aiming at this, but can't seem to find it via a google search.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

[Maurizio Cucchiara]

Personally, I prefer velocity [1] or freemarker [2]. They have a good
learning curve (especially velocity), they were designed for
templating tasks and yes, both of them have the tags you mentioned.

[1] http://velocity.apache.org/
[2] http://freemarker.sourceforge.net

On 29 January 2011 05:25, Dave Evans  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know of any way of using the jstl core library and el for
> generic templating tasks? Specifically I need to use a templating
> language to create the body of an email. I'd like to use the jstl el
> and the c:if and c:forEach tags to do it. I seem to remember some sort
> of jsr aiming at this, but can't seem to find it via a google search.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
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[OT?] standalone jsp

[Dave Evans]

Hello,

Does anyone know of any way of using the jstl core library and el for
generic templating tasks? Specifically I need to use a templating
language to create the body of an email. I'd like to use the jstl el
and the c:if and c:forEach tags to do it. I seem to remember some sort
of jsr aiming at this, but can't seem to find it via a google search.

Thanks,

Dave

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RE: [OT] Friday Quiz - Geek or Hack?

[Martin Gainty]

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> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:29:28 -0500
> Subject: [OT] Friday Quiz - Geek or Hack?
> From: burtonrho...@gmail.com
> To: user@struts.apache.org
> 
> Hey it's Friday... Are you a geek or a hack?
> 
> http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_cg.php
> 
> ...and if any of you score over 90%, you need to get out more often!
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