[libreoffice-users] Calc: how do I change what cell a form control is anchored to?

[Jim Trigg]

I can change whether a form control is anchored to the page or to a
cell, but not what cell it's anchored to.  I want to anchor it to the
cell that it populates, but it seems to always (no matter where on the
page it is) anchor it to cell A1.  This is LibreOffice 3.4.5 on
Xubuntu 11.10.

Thanks,
Jim Trigg

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[libreoffice-users] Calc and gradient conditional formatting

[451farenheit]

Hi there!

I have been looking for a while and I do not find any related topic finally.
What I want is to do a conditional format between a group of data, where the
background of the cells in calc
depends on the values inside the group. For example a list of numbers from 0
to 10 where 10 is totally red on the background and 0 is white. Then, a
gradient of white to red should be seen between the values in between 1,2,3,
and so on.

Is that possible with calc? Any link for it?

Many thanks in advance!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Don Myers]

Hi,

I didn't have any luck with Tom's link. I did a little research. In 
Ubuntu, this user file is at:

/home//.libreoffice/3/user

In Ubuntu, if you are using Unity, click the home folder in the launcher 
bar (normally just under the Dash button) , then move your mouse to the 
top bar where the menus appear. Then click view, then show hidden files. 
When you look again at the files and folders, you will see .libreoffice. 
In Linux, a . before a folder or file name means it is a hidden file or 
folder. Go to the user folder name, and rename it to something like 
userbackup. Then when you open LibreOffice the next time, it will create 
a new user folder. I everything works in there, then you can copy back 
the contents from the contents of the backup file until the corrupt 
portion of the backup file starts the problem again.


Don

On 02/11/2012 06:46 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Home is a bit confusing on Ubuntu.  The system might well not be happy with you 
trying to save there.  On most Gnu&Linux systems (including Ubuntu) you get a 
folder called

/home

that you can see in the root / folder of the file-system.  It's a system-folder that you can't 
really save stuff in as a normal user.  Inside /home is a folder for each user-name that can login 
to the system.  Ubuntu has a "Places" menu that refers to something it calls 
"home" but is really the



/home/user



folder which you might not always be allowed to save to as a normal user.  Ok, 
maybe not hugely confusing but imprecise enough to cause a mis-step sometimes.  
So,

/home/user/Documents

is really the best place to try saving to.  LiveCds don't mind if you really mess up their system because they assume that you can't write to the Cd so when you reboot you get a fresh system.  So they happily drop you in as a SuperUser/RootUser/SystemAdministrator.  If you then login to a proper install as a normal user then you can open files written but not save over the top of them because you don't have elevated permissions anymore.  It will allow you to save the same file under a different name.  I add v1 at the end of the file-name or change v1 to v2. 


Err, i have made that about as clear as mud!  Sorry!
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Janice Chandler
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 20:32

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davieswrote:


Hi :)
Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents
inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick


Hi Tom,

Yes, I have a full install of Ubuntu. I have a 160 gig HD and it does not
have partitions, except for a small swap area. I still have more than 130
gig available.

I learned several years ago to save all files  of any importance to an
external drive. Right now I use a 16 gig ssd, which is about half full. I
have tried to "save as" to a different area, such as the home documents
folder, but get the same error message.

Jan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I don't think it was a cross-post.  Perhaps mildly annoyed?  More like just 
curious and possibly interested ;)
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Ron Johnson 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 18:37

On 02/11/2012 11:20 AM, Pedro wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> 1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we
>> kick it over to the discuss list?
>>
>
> Unfortunately this is not a Forum, we can not move topics :) We would have
> to start all over at the Discuss mailing list...
>

Cross-post?  It does have an occasional valid purpose... :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Home is a bit confusing on Ubuntu.  The system might well not be happy with you 
trying to save there.  On most Gnu&Linux systems (including Ubuntu) you get a 
folder called

/home

that you can see in the root / folder of the file-system.  It's a system-folder 
that you can't really save stuff in as a normal user.  Inside /home is a folder 
for each user-name that can login to the system.  Ubuntu has a "Places" menu 
that refers to something it calls "home" but is really the



/home/user



folder which you might not always be allowed to save to as a normal user.  Ok, 
maybe not hugely confusing but imprecise enough to cause a mis-step sometimes.  
So, 

/home/user/Documents

is really the best place to try saving to.  LiveCds don't mind if you really 
mess up their system because they assume that you can't write to the Cd so when 
you reboot you get a fresh system.  So they happily drop you in as a 
SuperUser/RootUser/SystemAdministrator.  If you then login to a proper install 
as a normal user then you can open files written but not save over the top of 
them because you don't have elevated permissions anymore.  It will allow you to 
save the same file under a different name.  I add v1 at the end of the 
file-name or change v1 to v2.  

Err, i have made that about as clear as mud!  Sorry!
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Janice Chandler 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 20:32

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents
> inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick
>
>
> Hi Tom,

Yes, I have a full install of Ubuntu. I have a 160 gig HD and it does not
have partitions, except for a small swap area. I still have more than 130
gig available.

I learned several years ago to save all files  of any importance to an
external drive. Right now I use a 16 gig ssd, which is about half full. I
have tried to "save as" to a different area, such as the home documents
folder, but get the same error message.

Jan

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[libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet -- General searching guidance...

[Barry Smith]

I have always been fascinated by statistics.

I'm trying to understand the math behind powerball statistics, but my
spreadsheet experience is having trouble meeting the bill.

I'm trying to duplicate the statistics that I saw on
http://www.simplypowerball.com/?q=node/33 , most simply the GMO column
"number of games since last hit".

So far, I imported the current powerball winning numbers text file from
http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winnums-text.txt

After import, the sheet '20120208' contains draws including 20120208 and
has 8 cols from the original data--
A "DrawDate",
B "WB1",
C "WB2",
D "WB3",
E "WB4",
F "WB5",
G "PB",
H "PP",
and I added a column I "Draw DOW",
which is simply a DOW number from the draw date in Col A.  The value is
either 4 for Wed, and 7 for Saturday. Plan to use that info later somehow.

Next, I added another sheet which will scan the draws from first sheet,
and report back the same stats from the SimplyPowerball webpage.

The first task is getting the GMO column working.  In order to do that,
I need to understand how to lookup data in an array, report the row, and
then to subtract a constant.
Since the last draw is in row 2, I think I need to subtract 1.  Yet I
digress.

>From sheet 'Pre-2008 WB' I'm trying to figure out how to scan array
'20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491 row-by-row, and find the first row with a
number that I'm looking for (which is in 'Pre-2008' in column A, which
contains the sequential list of white balls 1 thru 55).

I keep getting an error 502... which doesn't tell me what part of my
function is invalid.
I have tried LOOKUP function, MATCH function, and currently I am trying
the HLOOKUP function.
The current cell has the formula
[=HLOOKUP(N(A2),'20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491,0)] .
A2 contains the number 1, so I'm attempting to just find that a 1 has
ever been drawn at the moment.
Ideally, the formula should contain a ROW function (I think), and
subtract 2...
to show me before 2/8, when was a 1 drawn as a whiteball.

I have thrown a copy of my current spreadsheet onto the web on my
GoogleDoc account. the file link is http://bit.ly/wjJtXu .
I will continue to fiddle with the formula, but if someone would be so
kind as to teach me a little about how to find the row of the last time
that a number was drawn... I would be grateful... because the error from
Libre office doesn't really point me in a direction to fix the error. :)

Thank you,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Ahh, you can "get back to factory defaults" by renaming your User-Profile.  
That gets all the configurations and settigns back to defaults
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProflie

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Don C. Myers 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 21:56

Hi Jan,

I've had very, very good luck with LibreOffice, and prior to that, OpenOffice, 
by using the direct downloads rather than the version in the repositories. Disk 
space doesn't seem to be a problem. I've never used a SSD, but I've read where 
they have a finite number of times that they can be written to. What I would 
suggest you try is to install the version of LibreOffice from their site. I 
assume with it being a netbook you are running 32 bit. If so, you can do the 
following if you wish to give this a try:
1. Download the current LibreOffice version 3.4.5 from here:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/#
Make sure you get the Linux x86 (deb) version for a 32 bit system.
Download this file to your desktop, or copy it to your desktop once you have it 
downloaded.

2. Right click on the downloaded folder and extract it to your desktop. You 
will then have a folder called    LibO_3.4.5rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US     
on your desktop.

3. Run the following three commands in the terminal:
        sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*                 This will remove 
your current LibreOffice version from your system. You will still have your 
preferences that you presently use.

        sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.5rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb                  
     This does the basic install.

        sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.5rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.4-debian-menus_3.4-502_all.deb 
             This installs your menus.

I've never bothered with the help files which are a separate download. Once you 
have done the above steps, you can easily add the portions of LibreOffice in 
the Launcher bar by clicking on the Dash button (top button on the launcher 
bar), and typing libre. All of the applications will show up. Simply left and 
hold the button down the ones you want and drag the icon to where you want it 
in the launcher.

If you should happen to be running 64 bit, I can send the instructions for it.

I don't know if there might be an issue with your configuration file being 
corrupted. I've never had that happen, but some folks have. I don't have those 
instructions, but others on this board do.

Good luck!

Don


On 02/11/2012 03:32 PM, Janice Chandler wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davieswrote:
> 
>> Hi :)
>> Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents
>> inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
> Yes, I have a full install of Ubuntu. I have a 160 gig HD and it does not
> have partitions, except for a small swap area. I still have more than 130
> gig available.
> 
> I learned several years ago to save all files  of any importance to an
> external drive. Right now I use a 16 gig ssd, which is about half full. I
> have tried to "save as" to a different area, such as the home documents
> folder, but get the same error message.
> 
> Jan
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Don C. Myers]

Hi Jan,

I've had very, very good luck with LibreOffice, and prior to that, 
OpenOffice, by using the direct downloads rather than the version in the 
repositories. Disk space doesn't seem to be a problem. I've never used a 
SSD, but I've read where they have a finite number of times that they 
can be written to. What I would suggest you try is to install the 
version of LibreOffice from their site. I assume with it being a netbook 
you are running 32 bit. If so, you can do the following if you wish to 
give this a try:

1. Download the current LibreOffice version 3.4.5 from here:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/#
Make sure you get the Linux x86 (deb) version for a 32 bit system.
Download this file to your desktop, or copy it to your desktop once you 
have it downloaded.


2. Right click on the downloaded folder and extract it to your desktop. 
You will then have a folder called
LibO_3.4.5rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US on your desktop.


3. Run the following three commands in the terminal:
sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* This will 
remove your current LibreOffice version from your system. You will still 
have your preferences that you presently use.


sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.5rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb   
This does the basic install.


sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.5rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.4-debian-menus_3.4-502_all.deb 
 This installs your menus.


I've never bothered with the help files which are a separate download. 
Once you have done the above steps, you can easily add the portions of 
LibreOffice in the Launcher bar by clicking on the Dash button (top 
button on the launcher bar), and typing libre. All of the applications 
will show up. Simply left and hold the button down the ones you want and 
drag the icon to where you want it in the launcher.


If you should happen to be running 64 bit, I can send the instructions 
for it.


I don't know if there might be an issue with your configuration file 
being corrupted. I've never had that happen, but some folks have. I 
don't have those instructions, but others on this board do.


Good luck!

Don


On 02/11/2012 03:32 PM, Janice Chandler wrote:

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davieswrote:


Hi :)
Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents
inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick


Hi Tom,

Yes, I have a full install of Ubuntu. I have a 160 gig HD and it does not
have partitions, except for a small swap area. I still have more than 130
gig available.

I learned several years ago to save all files  of any importance to an
external drive. Right now I use a 16 gig ssd, which is about half full. I
have tried to "save as" to a different area, such as the home documents
folder, but get the same error message.

Jan



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[libreoffice-users] OwnCloud 3 released, "ODT is planned for future releases"

[Fabian Rodriguez]

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Hi,

A couple of weeks ago OwnCloud 3 was released:

"The Internet ? January 27, 2012 ? ownCloud, the popular open source
file, sync and share project announced today improvements to
functionality and stability which will enable users to get more than
ever out of their privately-hosted and owned file-sharing cloud.

Released today and available for download now, ownCloud Version 3
enables users to share files and folders with others from their
privately controlled infrastructure. Major new features in this release
include the introduction of an application store which allows users to
take advantage of the extensibility of owncloud; and the ability to
directly edit text files from a browser. ownCloud is the only technology
to offer such functionality, made possible because of its open and
modular nature."

This bit caught my attention, specially the last sentence:

"ownCloud Version 3 gives users the unique ability to access and edit
documents in multiple ways. Users can access files directly if ownCloud
is mounted via WebDAV, access them offline if the file is synced locally
with
the upcoming syncing client, or access and edit files directly from within
a browser with the new text editor.

The browser based text editor supports 35 programming languages for syntax
highlighting, drag and drop text, automatic indent and
outdent, unstructured / user code folding and live syntax checker (for
JavaScript, Coffee and CSS). The editor is based on the ACE
JavaScript Editor. The editor supports basic text fles. Editing more
advanced formats like doc(x) and ODT is planned for future releases."

Cheers,

Fabián Rodríguez
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab

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[libreoffice-users] Re: I've repeated a bug from OO writer. Now what?

[Pedro]

Jay Lozier wrote
> 
> AFAIK Mendeley is reference manager. It requires the installation of 
> their software (free) available at www.mendeley.com. I have never used 
> it but I would not be surprised that the links are looking for something 
> that is not there
> 

Yes, it is. I use it daily. That doesn't seem to be the problem either.

I ran the file through the ODF validator and it does seem to be a formatting
problem
http://odf-validator.rhcloud.com/

Regards,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Export as PDF in LO 3.5

[Ferry Toth]

Could it be that LO is trying to overwrite the original odt with the
pdf? I had that in the past as the save as dialog was trying to be
clever but not clever enough to create a pdf extension. 


Don't know how that works on Mac exactly, but how about trying to create
a pdf with a different name?

Ferry

Tinkerer schreef op vr 10-02-2012 om 12:10 [-0800]:

> Many thanks. 
> 
> I found it OK, but the result was the same "Write error", "Unable to write
> to file".
> 
> Tink.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: I've repeated a bug from OO writer. Now what?

[Jay Lozier]

On 02/11/2012 02:29 PM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Jay and Tom


Tom wrote

Yes, you can make a copy of the file and rename the file-ending of the
copy from
.odt to .zip.  When you double-click on the file it should open in an
"archive manager" such as WinZip, WinRar.  Any images and stuff should be
in a sub-folder with a suitable name.  Most of the text is in
"contents.xml".  You could just right-click on the file and "Open with
..." an archive manager but renaming the file-ending might be the easier
way of doing this first few times.


You are both "preaching to the choir" :) I have done that already. How else
would I know about the Mendeley references. But I think (hope) that the OP
is not worried about recovering the content but about learning a way to
fix/avoid this problem...
AFAIK Mendeley is reference manager. It requires the installation of 
their software (free) available at www.mendeley.com. I have never used 
it but I would not be surprised that the links are looking for something 
that is not there


I tried some solutions I found while Googling, like this one
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1532
but it didn't solve the problem...

Anyone knows a miracle/clever trick?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Spencer Graves]

  Just to ensure I have read this thread correctly, the problem 
happens only on one computer and only on different drives attached to 
that computer.



  Have you noticed other problems on that computer?  If no, then I 
think it is probably corruption in the installation of LibreOffice.  For 
that, I suggest you do the following:



1.  Make sure you have all your personal data backed up.  I 
think you said you did, but I just want to make sure:  One possible 
source of this problem could be a weak component in your computer, which 
could get worse at any minute.  I don't think this is likely from what 
I've read of your case, but it's wise to be prepared.



2.  Confirm where LO is installed.  This may not be 
necessary if you have only one hard drive on that computer, and all 
software is installed on that hard drive.



3.  Run "fsck" on that drive 
(http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck).  If this identifies no errors, I'd 
uninstall and reinstall LO;  with luck, this should fix it.  If it finds 
errors, is the computer still under warranty?  If yes, I might take it 
for a warranty repair,  Alternatively, if the number of errors it finds 
and fixes is small, you might be able to get away with uninstalling and 
reinstalling LO -- and possibly a few other pieces of software you have 
not yet noticed were corrupted.  This might not fix it if the problem is 
in some portion of the operating system used by LO but not often by 
other software that you If it finds many errors, that suggests you will 
want to do something major with the hard drive.  The cheapest option 
might be to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the operating system 
and all software from scratch.  However, that might fix this LO problem, 
but you still might have other problems not too far identified;  or if 
the hard drive is generally weak, it could fail in another month.  The 
option, I think, with potentially the least work on your part is to 
replace the hard drive with a new one, and install the operating system 
and software from scratch.  This could be an attractive option if you 
could configure your current hard drive as a second drive.  With this, 
you might not need to do all the installation work at once.



  Hope this helps.

  Spencer
p.s.  You might want to add the things you do to fix this to your resume 
;-)  When I was laid off in 2009, I resolved to not buy any software if 
I could find an acceptable open source alternative.  Since then I've 
learned a lot about computers I didn't know before.



On 2/11/2012 12:47 PM, Janice Chandler wrote:

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Don C. Myerswrote:


Hi Jan,

I've not had any problems with LibreOffice  on Ubuntu 11.10. I've had
Ubuntu 11.10 installed since it came out, and have it on 4 different
computers, but no netbooks. I running LibreOffice 3.4.5.

What version of LibreOffice are you running? Are you using the version in
the Ubuntu repositories, or using the one directly from LibreOffice?

Don

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Hi Don,


I am using the LO from the Ubuntu repository, 3.4.4. Generally speaking, I
don't use an external source unless a program is not available from the
repository.

My biggest worry is that this is a hardware problem. Like so many others, I
am unemployed and I can't just go out and buy a replacement.

Jan




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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Jay Lozier]

Hi Jan,

On 02/11/2012 03:32 PM, Janice Chandler wrote:

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davieswrote:


Hi :)
Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents
inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick


Hi Tom,

Yes, I have a full install of Ubuntu. I have a 160 gig HD and it does not
have partitions, except for a small swap area. I still have more than 130
gig available.

I learned several years ago to save all files  of any importance to an
external drive. Right now I use a 16 gig ssd, which is about half full. I
have tried to "save as" to a different area, such as the home documents
folder, but get the same error message.

Jan

I have not seen any problems with LO causing a hang and searching I have 
not found any reports that seemed to fit the problem.


Space is not  a problem, Ubuntu needs maybe 5 - 8 gig for most people.

I use Mint 12 (Ubuntu 11.10) plus but use a libreoffice ppa instead of 
the Ubuntu repository. You can install the ppa using:


/To add the PPA and install LibreOffice add 'ppa:libreoffice/ppa' to 
your software sources or run the command below in a new Terminal session: -


sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice /

sudo will ask for your user password (logon password)

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[libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet -- General searching guidance...

[Barry Smith]

I have always been fascinated by statistics.

I'm trying to understand the math behind powerball statistics, but my
spreadsheet experience is having trouble meeting the bill.

I'm trying to duplicate the statistics that I saw on
http://www.simplypowerball.com/?q=node/33 , most simply the GMO column
"number of games since last hit".

So far, I imported the current powerball winning numbers text file from
http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winnums-text.txt

After import, the sheet '20120208' contains draws including 20120208 and
has 8 cols from the original data--
A "DrawDate",
B "WB1",
C "WB2",
D "WB3",
E "WB4",
F "WB5",
G "PB",
H "PP",
and I added a column I "Draw DOW",
which is simply a DOW number from the draw date in Col A.  The value is
either 4 for Wed, and 7 for Saturday. Plan to use that info later somehow.

Next, I added another sheet which will scan the draws from first sheet,
and report back the same stats from the SimplyPowerball webpage.

The first task is getting the GMO column working.  In order to do that,
I need to understand how to lookup data in an array, report the row, and
then to subtract a constant.
Since the last draw is in row 2, I think I need to subtract 1.  Yet I
digress.

>From sheet 'Pre-2008 WB' I'm trying to figure out how to scan array
'20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491 row-by-row, and find the first row with a
number that I'm looking for (which is in 'Pre-2008' in column A, which
contains the sequential list of white balls 1 thru 55).

I keep getting an error 502... which doesn't tell me what part of my
function is invalid.
I have tried LOOKUP function, MATCH function, and currently I am trying
the HLOOKUP function.
The current cell has the formula
[=HLOOKUP(N(A2),'20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491,0)] .
A2 contains the number 1, so I'm attempting to just find that a 1 has
ever been drawn at the moment.
Ideally, the formula should contain a ROW function (I think), and
subtract 2...
to show me before 2/8, when was a 1 drawn as a whiteball.

I have thrown a copy of my current spreadsheet onto the web on my
GoogleDoc account. the file link is http://bit.ly/wjJtXu .
I will continue to fiddle with the formula, but if someone would be so
kind as to teach me a little about how to find the row of the last time
that a number was drawn... I would be grateful... because the error from
Libre office doesn't really point me in a direction to fix the error. :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Janice Chandler]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
> I've not had any problems with LibreOffice  on Ubuntu 11.10. I've had
> Ubuntu 11.10 installed since it came out, and have it on 4 different
> computers, but no netbooks. I running LibreOffice 3.4.5.
>
> What version of LibreOffice are you running? Are you using the version in
> the Ubuntu repositories, or using the one directly from LibreOffice?
>
> Don

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>
> Hi Don,
>

I am using the LO from the Ubuntu repository, 3.4.4. Generally speaking, I
don't use an external source unless a program is not available from the
repository.

My biggest worry is that this is a hardware problem. Like so many others, I
am unemployed and I can't just go out and buy a replacement.

Jan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[James Knott]

Pedro wrote:

That is a little unfair on PDF! PDF is excellent for archiving documents as
IF they were printed. It saves on trees and it saves on disk space (compared
to digitized images of documents).

The fixed page size and numbering is extremely important when you are
referring to some portion of a document. It doesn't make sense to say, "in
the third paragraph of page 20" and then because the text was re-flowed to
fit in a 3" screen that paragraph is in page 100...

Another big advantage of PDF (when loaded in a PC, Win or Linux, and
probably on a Mac) is that you can embed the fonts so you know your page
will look*exactly*  like you designed it. Apparently this does not work in a
Kindle, so it is expected that they will look different because fonts are
being replaced (as in an epub)


There's nothing wrong with PDFs in the right context.  However, that 
context is not devices with small screens, such as tablets or smart phones.


Just my 2 cents;)


Here's your change back.  ;-)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Janice Chandler]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents
> inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick
>
>
> Hi Tom,

Yes, I have a full install of Ubuntu. I have a 160 gig HD and it does not
have partitions, except for a small swap area. I still have more than 130
gig available.

I learned several years ago to save all files  of any importance to an
external drive. Right now I use a 16 gig ssd, which is about half full. I
have tried to "save as" to a different area, such as the home documents
folder, but get the same error message.

Jan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[James Knott]

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
I do not have a tablet computer or a smart phone with a screen large 
enough to read "books".


I have seen PDF books defined as paperback size of pages.  Places like 
Lulu.com publish books with print on demand service.  They have 
templates that are for the popular book sizes.  If I was going to 
create an e-book, I would use one of those templates to make a book 
the "physical" screen size of a paperback book.  Actually I prefer to 
buy physical books in that size, since it is easier for me to read 
that size of book over the "standard" hardcover books.


So, I would do the same for any e-book I would create.
If you used an ebook reader, you'd think otherwise.  Unless you have a 
large screen, PDFs do not work well.  On my Kobo reader, I can zoom a 
PDF to one of 4 sizes, but it can still be hard to read, unless I want 
to scroll through the pages.  With epub and other ebook formats, the 
text reflows, so you'd have less text displayed on a smaller screen, but 
you don't have to zoom or scroll to read it.  You just adjust the font 
size to whatever works for you.


Yes, publishers are not looking at [or doing it now] several file 
formats for their e-books.


As I mentioned, O'Reilly, publishers of computer books, makes them 
available in various formats, including PDF, epub, mobi and one or two 
others.  You can download as many of the available formats as you wish, 
so that you could have PDF on your computer, but epub, mobi, etc., on 
your tablet, ereader or phone.  I have no idea about other publishers, 
as I haven't bought ebooks from anyone else.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Andreas Säger]

Am 11.02.2012 15:42, Ron Johnson wrote:


Because epub is essentially zipped up xhtml+css.



Thank you very much. I was going to ask why not using device oriented 
html if pdf is too much page oriented.

Can we export ODF to XHTML and get something close to epub?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: I've repeated a bug from OO writer. Now what?

[Pedro]

Hi Jay and Tom


Tom wrote
> 
> Yes, you can make a copy of the file and rename the file-ending of the
> copy from
> .odt to .zip.  When you double-click on the file it should open in an
> "archive manager" such as WinZip, WinRar.  Any images and stuff should be
> in a sub-folder with a suitable name.  Most of the text is in
> "contents.xml".  You could just right-click on the file and "Open with
> ..." an archive manager but renaming the file-ending might be the easier
> way of doing this first few times.  
> 

You are both "preaching to the choir" :) I have done that already. How else
would I know about the Mendeley references. But I think (hope) that the OP
is not worried about recovering the content but about learning a way to
fix/avoid this problem...

I tried some solutions I found while Googling, like this one
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1532
but it didn't solve the problem...

Anyone knows a miracle/clever trick?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Don C. Myers]

Hi Jan,

I've not had any problems with LibreOffice  on Ubuntu 11.10. I've had 
Ubuntu 11.10 installed since it came out, and have it on 4 different 
computers, but no netbooks. I running LibreOffice 3.4.5.


What version of LibreOffice are you running? Are you using the version 
in the Ubuntu repositories, or using the one directly from LibreOffice?


Don

On 02/11/2012 12:51 PM, Janice Chandler wrote:

I am running LibreOffice on Ubuntu 11.10, Asus netbook, w/2g RAM. I use the
word processor extensively.

Frequently, when working on a document in Writer, I get a "cannot write to
disk" error. Subsequently, I cannot save in any other program. For example,
if I open a text editor and copy the text to a new file, I get the same
error message. This happens more often when operating on battery power than
when using A/C. If I do not reboot right away, I will get a total system
failure. If that happens before exiting Writer, the document I am working
on becomes corrupted.

This only happens when I am using LO in Ubuntu. This never happens in WinXP
or Win7. I haven't observed this trouble in any of the "live distros" I've
played with. Much to my dismay, I have noticed that Win can be a little
more forgiving of some hardware issues than Ubuntu. I don't have Win on
this netbook, but I never had any problems when it was installed.

How can I tell if this problem is related to LO, Ubuntu or hardware?

Thanks,

Jan




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: I've repeated a bug from OO writer. Now what?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yes, you can make a copy of the file and rename the file-ending of the copy from
.odt to .zip.  When you double-click on the file it should open in an "archive 
manager" such as WinZip, WinRar.  Any images and stuff should be in a 
sub-folder with a suitable name.  Most of the text is in "contents.xml".  You 
could just right-click on the file and "Open with ..." an archive manager but 
renaming the file-ending might be the easier way of doing this first few 
times.  

If you have a fairly recent copy of the file on usb-stick, flash-drive or 
attached in an email or something then that might be easier to bring back up to 
date.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Jay Lozier 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: I've repeated a bug from OO writer. Now 
what?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 6:17

On 02/11/2012 12:27 AM, Pedro wrote:
> Hi Robin
>
> I'm not sure if the problem is with track changes. Your paper is also full
> of Mendeley references and I have no idea how well LibreOffice handles
> those.
> Given your apparent calm (and the name of the file) I think that you have
> previous versions of this Draft so I would recommend going back to one of
> them (even if you loose some revisions).
>
> Unless someone on this list knows of a fantastic trick to repair/recover an
> un-openable ODT file...
>
> I can confirm that the same problem happens under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3
>
> Good luck with your paper ;)
>
> Regards,
> Pedro
>
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>
You can try opening the file with an archive manager, the odt file is a 
compressed archive with an xml data file inside.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/11/2012 11:20 AM, Pedro wrote:
[snip]


1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we
kick it over to the discuss list?



Unfortunately this is not a Forum, we can not move topics :) We would have
to start all over at the Discuss mailing list...



Cross-post?  It does have an occasional valid purpose... :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents 
inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick

View - "Status bar"

Then the status-bar at the bottom of the window shows how much empty space 
there is on the Ubuntu drive/partition that you are trying to save the file 
into.  It might be worth emptying the wastebin and if you open your email 
client then empty the wastebin in there to.  Also which folder are you trying 
to save into?  It should be fine in "Documents" or another suitable folder but 
some system folders are protected.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 11/2/12, Janice Chandler  wrote:

From: Janice Chandler 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 17:51

I am running LibreOffice on Ubuntu 11.10, Asus netbook, w/2g RAM. I use the
word processor extensively.

Frequently, when working on a document in Writer, I get a "cannot write to
disk" error. Subsequently, I cannot save in any other program. For example,
if I open a text editor and copy the text to a new file, I get the same
error message. This happens more often when operating on battery power than
when using A/C. If I do not reboot right away, I will get a total system
failure. If that happens before exiting Writer, the document I am working
on becomes corrupted.

This only happens when I am using LO in Ubuntu. This never happens in WinXP
or Win7. I haven't observed this trouble in any of the "live distros" I've
played with. Much to my dismay, I have noticed that Win can be a little
more forgiving of some hardware issues than Ubuntu. I don't have Win on
this netbook, but I never had any problems when it was installed.

How can I tell if this problem is related to LO, Ubuntu or hardware?

Thanks,

Jan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Left-floated headings using styles

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Style & Templates is Chapter 3 of the Getting Started Guide in the official 
documentation which can also be accessed on the wiki
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 11/2/12, Dan Lewis  wrote:

From: Dan Lewis 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Left-floated headings using styles
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 12:00

On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 15:44 +0800, Jason Heeris wrote:
> I'm looking to achieve a certain layout effect in LibreOffice writer, but
> it's a bit hard to describe. I can demonstrate it in HTML:
> 
>     http://heeris.id.au/test/test.html
> 
> ...but basically, I want a certain style of subheading to appear to the
> left of the body of text for which it is the heading. The text should be
> indented and not flow around underneath the heading. All such headings
> should have the same amount of horizontal space available, and should wrap
> if they exceed this.
> 
> It would be possible to do this with one giant table for the whole
> document, with headings in the left column, text in the right, and top
> level headings or un-headed text in single-column rows; or with text boxes
> and certain wrap settings. But I want to know if I can do it purely using
> styles. Otherwise, should I want to change things in the future, I'll have
> a lot more editing to do, and using styles seem to be LibreOffice's main
> strength rather than the horrible typesetting hackery so characteristic of
> a certain other office suite.
> 
> I've been playing around with paragraph styles, but I can't figure out how
> to do this. Is it at all possible?
> 
> (I'm using LO Writer 3.4.5 under Ubuntu 11.10, by the way.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Jason

     Would using sections be what you need? The LO Writer Guide contains
about 10 pages on using sections that begins around page 136.

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[libreoffice-users] can't save a document

[Janice Chandler]

I am running LibreOffice on Ubuntu 11.10, Asus netbook, w/2g RAM. I use the
word processor extensively.

Frequently, when working on a document in Writer, I get a "cannot write to
disk" error. Subsequently, I cannot save in any other program. For example,
if I open a text editor and copy the text to a new file, I get the same
error message. This happens more often when operating on battery power than
when using A/C. If I do not reboot right away, I will get a total system
failure. If that happens before exiting Writer, the document I am working
on becomes corrupted.

This only happens when I am using LO in Ubuntu. This never happens in WinXP
or Win7. I haven't observed this trouble in any of the "live distros" I've
played with. Much to my dismay, I have noticed that Win can be a little
more forgiving of some hardware issues than Ubuntu. I don't have Win on
this netbook, but I never had any problems when it was installed.

How can I tell if this problem is related to LO, Ubuntu or hardware?

Thanks,

Jan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[drew]

On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 09:20 -0800, Pedro wrote:
> Hi Drew
> 
> First of all, maybe I wasn't clear in my previous message: I think the epub
> is fantastic for e-readers, I'm just arguing that PDF also is fantastic for
> other situations. Each one has a proper use and qualities as well as
> limitations.

Well, if you are going to be that way about it I'm forced to stick, pig
headed, to my earlier remark.

'We are in agreement...' 

Best wishes,

//drew



> 
> There is no such thing as a "perfect" file format.
> 
> 
> drewjensen wrote
> > 
> > 1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we
> > kick it over to the discuss list?
> > 
> 
> Unfortunately this is not a Forum, we can not move topics :) We would have
> to start all over at the Discuss mailing list...
> 
> 
> drewjensen wrote
> > 
> > Instead of saying "see the scratch mark on tablet 4", use a hyperlink.
> > It will be just as valid when the pages flow differently on different
> > devices.
> > 
> 
> I think the Editors wouldn't like that when they send you a Proof that has
> been typesetted and ready for printing. When you say line 4 of the 1st
> column in page 40, that is where it is going to stay :)
> 
> 
> drewjensen wrote
> > 
> > I'm not saying there is no place for PDF and it's like just that there
> > are other ways to view the world, the new world.
> > 
> 
> Couldn't agree more ;)
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Are you guys looking for this template?
http://www.kindletemplate.com/
I contacted the site woners and they have agreed to add the name LibreOffice to 
their site alongside (or perhaps instead of) OpenOffice.

This article
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ebook-publishing-using-linux-tools

or something like this?
http://www.kindleexpert.com/template/

Regards from
Tom :)



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From: drew 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 15:48

On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 07:10 -0800, Pedro wrote:
> drewjensen wrote
> > 
> > PDF is just another throw back to printing on dead trees in this regard,
> > where the creator of the file sets the size of the layout when the file
> > is generated. 
> > 
> > This has additional implications, such as page counts and the use of
> > page numbers in a table of contents and index, 
> > 
> 
> That is a little unfair on PDF! PDF is excellent for archiving documents as
> IF they were printed. It saves on trees and it saves on disk space (compared
> to digitized images of documents).

Hi Pedro,

1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we
kick it over to the discuss list?

But for the moment.

So we are in agreement - PDF does a great job of replicating the printed
page.

> 
> The fixed page size and numbering is extremely important when you are
> referring to some portion of a document. It doesn't make sense to say, "in
> the third paragraph of page 20" and then because the text was re-flowed to
> fit in a 3" screen that paragraph is in page 100...

Well, stop thinking that way (hey didn't I adomish against such
statement in a recent email...ah humans we are all schytzoid)...

Instead of saying "see the scratch mark on tablet 4", use a hyperlink.
It will be just as valid when the pages flow differently on different
devices.


> Another big advantage of PDF (when loaded in a PC, Win or Linux, and
> probably on a Mac) is that you can embed the fonts so you know your page
> will look *exactly* like you designed it. Apparently this does not work in a
> Kindle, so it is expected that they will look different because fonts are
> being replaced (as in an epub)

Yup - embedded fonts = hard coding. 

I'm not saying there is no place for PDF and it's like just that there
are other ways to view the world, the new world.

// drew

> 
> Just my 2 cents ;)
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Pedro]

Hi Drew

First of all, maybe I wasn't clear in my previous message: I think the epub
is fantastic for e-readers, I'm just arguing that PDF also is fantastic for
other situations. Each one has a proper use and qualities as well as
limitations.

There is no such thing as a "perfect" file format.


drewjensen wrote
> 
> 1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we
> kick it over to the discuss list?
> 

Unfortunately this is not a Forum, we can not move topics :) We would have
to start all over at the Discuss mailing list...


drewjensen wrote
> 
> Instead of saying "see the scratch mark on tablet 4", use a hyperlink.
> It will be just as valid when the pages flow differently on different
> devices.
> 

I think the Editors wouldn't like that when they send you a Proof that has
been typesetted and ready for printing. When you say line 4 of the 1st
column in page 40, that is where it is going to stay :)


drewjensen wrote
> 
> I'm not saying there is no place for PDF and it's like just that there
> are other ways to view the world, the new world.
> 

Couldn't agree more ;)

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[drew]

On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 07:10 -0800, Pedro wrote:
> drewjensen wrote
> > 
> > PDF is just another throw back to printing on dead trees in this regard,
> > where the creator of the file sets the size of the layout when the file
> > is generated. 
> > 
> > This has additional implications, such as page counts and the use of
> > page numbers in a table of contents and index, 
> > 
> 
> That is a little unfair on PDF! PDF is excellent for archiving documents as
> IF they were printed. It saves on trees and it saves on disk space (compared
> to digitized images of documents).

Hi Pedro,

1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we
kick it over to the discuss list?

But for the moment.

So we are in agreement - PDF does a great job of replicating the printed
page.

> 
> The fixed page size and numbering is extremely important when you are
> referring to some portion of a document. It doesn't make sense to say, "in
> the third paragraph of page 20" and then because the text was re-flowed to
> fit in a 3" screen that paragraph is in page 100...

Well, stop thinking that way (hey didn't I adomish against such
statement in a recent email...ah humans we are all schytzoid)...

Instead of saying "see the scratch mark on tablet 4", use a hyperlink.
It will be just as valid when the pages flow differently on different
devices.


> Another big advantage of PDF (when loaded in a PC, Win or Linux, and
> probably on a Mac) is that you can embed the fonts so you know your page
> will look *exactly* like you designed it. Apparently this does not work in a
> Kindle, so it is expected that they will look different because fonts are
> being replaced (as in an epub)

Yup - embedded fonts = hard coding. 

I'm not saying there is no place for PDF and it's like just that there
are other ways to view the world, the new world.

// drew

> 
> Just my 2 cents ;)
> 
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Write2epub-tp3732714p3735140.html
> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Pedro]

drewjensen wrote
> 
> PDF is just another throw back to printing on dead trees in this regard,
> where the creator of the file sets the size of the layout when the file
> is generated. 
> 
> This has additional implications, such as page counts and the use of
> page numbers in a table of contents and index, 
> 

That is a little unfair on PDF! PDF is excellent for archiving documents as
IF they were printed. It saves on trees and it saves on disk space (compared
to digitized images of documents).

The fixed page size and numbering is extremely important when you are
referring to some portion of a document. It doesn't make sense to say, "in
the third paragraph of page 20" and then because the text was re-flowed to
fit in a 3" screen that paragraph is in page 100...

Another big advantage of PDF (when loaded in a PC, Win or Linux, and
probably on a Mac) is that you can embed the fonts so you know your page
will look *exactly* like you designed it. Apparently this does not work in a
Kindle, so it is expected that they will look different because fonts are
being replaced (as in an epub)

Just my 2 cents ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[drew]

On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 08:09 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:
> On 02/11/2012 07:47 AM, James Knott wrote:
> > webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> >> It seems that different e-readers prefer different text formats, like 
> >> epub.  They did this for "business i.e. money/profit" reasons.  
> >> People had to buy their formatted documents.
> >
> > Have you used an ereader?  I have read both PDF and epub on mine and 
> > epub is much better.  I can also read epub on my smart phone, where 
> > the screen is so small as to make it virtually useless for PDF.  As 
> > for "business", books I download from the library are often available 
> > in both epub and PDF.  Also, O'Reilly books are generally available in 
> > several formats and you can download whatevers ones you want, 
> > including all, if you're so inclined.
> >
> >
> I do not have a tablet computer or a smart phone with a screen large 
> enough to read "books".
> 
> I have seen PDF books defined as paperback size of pages.  Places like 
> Lulu.com publish books with print on demand service.  They have 
> templates that are for the popular book sizes.  If I was going to create 
> an e-book, I would use one of those templates to make a book the 
> "physical" screen size of a paperback book.  Actually I prefer to buy 
> physical books in that size, since it is easier for me to read that size 
> of book over the "standard" hardcover books.
> 
> So, I would do the same for any e-book I would create.
> 
> Yes, publishers are not looking at [or doing it now] several file 
> formats for their e-books.  I once had a lot of PDF technical books.  
> Easy to get, but hard to use, or at least for me.  I prefer to use page 
> marking papers and a highlighter marker to mark the book pages that are 
> what I need.  I do not have that option for an e-book.  One thing I do 
> like for the PDF books is to be able to copy text [code mostly] from the 
> PDF documents and use that copied text within my documents or programming.
> 
> So, to each his own.  But if you are going to create an e-book with 
> fixed page sizes and fonts, you must define the page size for the best 
> use on the screen size it is targeted for.
> 

Hi Tim, others

Your the missing the point IMO - ePub formats are designed to fit the
form factor of the device (available fonts, etc also) being used to read
the content, at the time it's being presented.

PDF is just another throw back to printing on dead trees in this regard,
where the creator of the file sets the size of the layout when the file
is generated. 

This has additional implications, such as page counts and the use of
page numbers in a table of contents and index, the ePub formats and the
readers work such that those things are not fixed, they are variable
adjusting as needed, again, to the form factor of the device being used
to read the file.

Best wishes,

//drew





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/11/2012 08:14 AM, Calvin Kim wrote:

On 02/10/2012 07:03 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 10.02.2012 15:41, Tinkerer wrote:

I have found Write2epub.
All the extensions are on a disc downloaded from Kracked Press.

I thought I would try it for converting Libre User Guides to epub
format for
the iPad.


Why not PDF? What is the advantage of epub?




If your PDF's page size is bigger than ebook reader, either text size is
too small or you have to read a page in sections which is very irritating.
With ebook format like epub, you can adjust text size, and text flow is
natural to your ebook reader. Plus, I think ebook format is usually
smaller in size(bytes).



Because epub is essentially zipped up xhtml+css.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Calvin Kim]

On 02/10/2012 07:03 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 10.02.2012 15:41, Tinkerer wrote:

I have found Write2epub.
All the extensions are on a disc downloaded from Kracked Press.

I thought I would try it for converting Libre User Guides to epub 
format for

the iPad.


Why not PDF? What is the advantage of epub?




If your PDF's page size is bigger than ebook reader, either text size is 
too small or you have to read a page in sections which is very irritating.
With ebook format like epub, you can adjust text size, and text flow is 
natural to your ebook reader. Plus, I think ebook format is usually 
smaller in size(bytes).


I have Kindle 3, and constantly looking for a way to convert PDF to much 
more manageable ebook format.


cK

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Left-floated headings using styles

[Calvin Kim]

On 02/11/2012 02:44 AM, Jason Heeris wrote:

I'm looking to achieve a certain layout effect in LibreOffice writer, but
it's a bit hard to describe. I can demonstrate it in HTML:

 http://heeris.id.au/test/test.html

...but basically, I want a certain style of subheading to appear to the
left of the body of text for which it is the heading. The text should be
indented and not flow around underneath the heading. All such headings
should have the same amount of horizontal space available, and should wrap
if they exceed this.

It would be possible to do this with one giant table for the whole
document, with headings in the left column, text in the right, and top
level headings or un-headed text in single-column rows; or with text boxes
and certain wrap settings. But I want to know if I can do it purely using
styles. Otherwise, should I want to change things in the future, I'll have
a lot more editing to do, and using styles seem to be LibreOffice's main
strength rather than the horrible typesetting hackery so characteristic of
a certain other office suite.

I've been playing around with paragraph styles, but I can't figure out how
to do this. Is it at all possible?

(I'm using LO Writer 3.4.5 under Ubuntu 11.10, by the way.)

Cheers,
Jason



I have used frame for a such format for the binder few years ago. It 
worked well for my purpose.
Draw one tall frame (same height as 'page text area') for subheadings. 
Adjust page margin accordingly.
In my case, I used two different frame styles and two different page 
styles for even/odd pages.
Left page frame style was anchored to 'left/top' and 'page text area' 
and linked with 'Left Page style'.
Right page frame style was anchored to 'right/top' and 'page text area' 
and linked with 'Right Page style'.

Insert a frame with correct frame style in every pages.

In this way, if you insert a page in the middle, your frame will shift 
automatically depending on page #.

Any other ideas, anyone?

cK

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[Caesar]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:23:27 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions  wrote Re Re:
[libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub:

>>> Why not PDF? What is the advantage of epub?
>>>
>>
>> On ebook readers, epub text flows as required with different font 
>> sizes.  PDFs don't.

Indeed.  I've tried copying a couple of  PDF files to a kindle and the
result was totally unusable and unpredictable.  It looked nothing like
the file viewed in a PDF reader.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

On 02/11/2012 07:47 AM, James Knott wrote:

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
It seems that different e-readers prefer different text formats, like 
epub.  They did this for "business i.e. money/profit" reasons.  
People had to buy their formatted documents.


Have you used an ereader?  I have read both PDF and epub on mine and 
epub is much better.  I can also read epub on my smart phone, where 
the screen is so small as to make it virtually useless for PDF.  As 
for "business", books I download from the library are often available 
in both epub and PDF.  Also, O'Reilly books are generally available in 
several formats and you can download whatevers ones you want, 
including all, if you're so inclined.



I do not have a tablet computer or a smart phone with a screen large 
enough to read "books".


I have seen PDF books defined as paperback size of pages.  Places like 
Lulu.com publish books with print on demand service.  They have 
templates that are for the popular book sizes.  If I was going to create 
an e-book, I would use one of those templates to make a book the 
"physical" screen size of a paperback book.  Actually I prefer to buy 
physical books in that size, since it is easier for me to read that size 
of book over the "standard" hardcover books.


So, I would do the same for any e-book I would create.

Yes, publishers are not looking at [or doing it now] several file 
formats for their e-books.  I once had a lot of PDF technical books.  
Easy to get, but hard to use, or at least for me.  I prefer to use page 
marking papers and a highlighter marker to mark the book pages that are 
what I need.  I do not have that option for an e-book.  One thing I do 
like for the PDF books is to be able to copy text [code mostly] from the 
PDF documents and use that copied text within my documents or programming.


So, to each his own.  But if you are going to create an e-book with 
fixed page sizes and fonts, you must define the page size for the best 
use on the screen size it is targeted for.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[James Knott]

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
It seems that different e-readers prefer different text formats, like 
epub.  They did this for "business i.e. money/profit" reasons.  People 
had to buy their formatted documents.


Have you used an ereader?  I have read both PDF and epub on mine and 
epub is much better.  I can also read epub on my smart phone, where the 
screen is so small as to make it virtually useless for PDF.  As for 
"business", books I download from the library are often available in 
both epub and PDF.  Also, O'Reilly books are generally available in 
several formats and you can download whatevers ones you want, including 
all, if you're so inclined.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Left-floated headings using styles

[Dan Lewis]

On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 15:44 +0800, Jason Heeris wrote:
> I'm looking to achieve a certain layout effect in LibreOffice writer, but
> it's a bit hard to describe. I can demonstrate it in HTML:
> 
> http://heeris.id.au/test/test.html
> 
> ...but basically, I want a certain style of subheading to appear to the
> left of the body of text for which it is the heading. The text should be
> indented and not flow around underneath the heading. All such headings
> should have the same amount of horizontal space available, and should wrap
> if they exceed this.
> 
> It would be possible to do this with one giant table for the whole
> document, with headings in the left column, text in the right, and top
> level headings or un-headed text in single-column rows; or with text boxes
> and certain wrap settings. But I want to know if I can do it purely using
> styles. Otherwise, should I want to change things in the future, I'll have
> a lot more editing to do, and using styles seem to be LibreOffice's main
> strength rather than the horrible typesetting hackery so characteristic of
> a certain other office suite.
> 
> I've been playing around with paragraph styles, but I can't figure out how
> to do this. Is it at all possible?
> 
> (I'm using LO Writer 3.4.5 under Ubuntu 11.10, by the way.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Jason

 Would using sections be what you need? The LO Writer Guide contains
about 10 pages on using sections that begins around page 136.

--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

On 02/10/2012 09:21 PM, James Knott wrote:

Andreas Säger wrote:
I thought I would try it for converting Libre User Guides to epub 
format for

the iPad.


Why not PDF? What is the advantage of epub?



On ebook readers, epub text flows as required with different font 
sizes.  PDFs don't.





It seems that different e-readers prefer different text formats, like 
epub.  They did this for "business i.e. money/profit" reasons.  People 
had to buy their formatted documents.  Now with the conversion packages, 
it is not an issue, as long as you have a conversion package.


I prefer PDF files for my documents, printer with CUPS-PDF or doPDF.  
That way I keep all my specialty fonts in the document instead of LO's 
tendency to replace them with its core font set.


Having external packages, instead of LO extensions do work better 
sometimes, but the developers of the extensions are doing their best to 
make their packages work as well as these external packages like 
"Calibre".  I am told that the LO developers are working on the issues I 
have with specialty fonts and their PDF exporting option.


So, right now, do what works best.  Create your documents in LO and then 
use whatever works to convert them into the format you need for the 
specific job.  Most of us need to have .doc and .pdf file versions of 
our documents for our co-workers or our bosses.  Making them work with a 
tablet/e-reader package is relatively new compared to what the 
developers have been working towards.  Next big thing is write a version 
that will work on an Android tablet.  Some people are talking about an 
iPad version as well.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Write2epub

[Andreas H.]

Am 10.02.2012 15:41, schrieb Tinkerer:

I have found Write2epub.
All the extensions are on a disc downloaded from Kracked Press.

I thought I would try it for converting Libre User Guides to epub format for
the iPad.
I may not have set it up correctly, but just using the extension as
supplied, I failed.
The staus bar along the bottom showed converting images and this took about
10 seconds.
It then started to convert text. The bar progressed about an inch across the
bottom, then it stopped.
An hour later and it was still stationary.
In the Documents folder, a folder had been created using the same name with
WE2_folder added
There was also a a file with the same name plus WE2_odt
I tried to convert a smaller single page odt file with exactly the same
result.

Using LO 3.5rc3 neither Export as PDF or Writer2epub works on my Mac 10.7.2

Tink.

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Hi Tinkerer,

it may be usefull to contact the author directly at 
http://lukesblog.it/ebooks/ebook-tools/writer2epub/


Also Writer2epub is discussed at 
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111879


Current version by the way is 1.1.16.

Gruß
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Install Configuration] Documentation for bootstrap.ini

[Eduardo Maldonado]

No, thaks, Cor.

That redirects ALL UserInstallation. I'll want redirect only one (two,
tree) directories.

Thaks a lot.

El 10 de febrero de 2012 13:00, Cor Nouws  escribió:

> Hi Eduardo,
>
> Eduardo Maldonado wrote (08-02-12 11:40)
>
>
>  Anybody know any manual or options list for bootstrap.ini?
>>
>> The goal is not only redirect the full UserInstallation variable, but only
>> some rutes particulares, like "My Documents" or "My Templates".
>>
>
> All I know on this subject is from a mail from Mathias Bauer in 2006 :
> " You can use soffice -env:UserInstallation=$(URL) where $(URL) is the URL
> of a folder that contains the "user" folder. "
>
> (  Subject: Re: [api-dev] multiple instances / configuring userid
> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:43:43 +0100 )
>
> Maybe that helps?
>
> Cheers,
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