Re: Photo app's -

[Ian Malone]

On 12 April 2016 at 06:25, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> On 04/11/2016 08:43 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>
>> I just installed simple-mtpfs and gat the following:
>>
>> [root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
>> No raw devices found.
>> [root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
>> No raw devices found.
>>
> You said it is a Nikon S3100?  I just checked the manual and the camera
> should support PTP and MTP.  Check the output of:
> lsusb -v -d 04b0:0320
> It should have lines with "Picture Transfer Protocol" and "MTP".
> For example, the following lines are in the info from my phone:
>   bInterfaceSubClass  1 Still Image Capture
>   bInterfaceProtocol  1 Picture Transfer Protocol (PIMA 15470)
>   iInterface  5 MTP
>
> Try installing the gvfs-mtp package.  It would be easiest to reboot after
> installing that so the system tasks get started properly.  Then try plugging
> in the camera to the USB port.
>

"simple-mtpfs -l" doesn't find my Nikon P300 either, despite being
able to find it in the file explorer (dolphin on kde).

For quite some time (though have just checked and it's working again
for me), the machine didn't show the camera as available hardware in
the file explorer or hardware notifications when connected, but I
could still connect to it from dolphin by entering "camera:/" in the
location bar (without the quotes). Don't know if that will work in
gnome.

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Re: Photo app's -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 04/12/16 01:25, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I just installed simple-mtpfs and gat 
the following:


[root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
No raw devices found.
[root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
No raw devices found.

You said it is a Nikon S3100?  I just 
checked the manual and the camera 
should support PTP and MTP.  Check the 
output of:

lsusb -v -d 04b0:0320
It should have lines with "Picture 
Transfer Protocol" and "MTP".
For example, the following lines are 
in the info from my phone:
  bInterfaceSubClass  1 Still 
Image Capture
  bInterfaceProtocol  1 
Picture Transfer Protocol (PIMA 15470)

  iInterface  5 MTP

Try installing the gvfs-mtp package.  
It would be easiest to reboot after 
installing that so the system tasks 
get started properly.  Then try 
plugging in the camera to the USB port.

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I just did:

[root@Box10 bobg]# dnf install gvfs-mtp
Shutdown and rebooted the computer.

lsusb shows: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 
04b0:0320 Nikon Corp.


and no icon comes up on the desktop. 
°cycling the usb connection and turning 
the camera off/on shows no difference.


However "gvfs-mtp" apparently has no man 
page so I don't know what to expect from 
it yet?


Bob

Note: Tim, pushing the buttons harder 
didn't help?


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KDE/Plasma not working after upgrade to F23 using dnf

[Gary Stainburn]

A few weeks back I upgraded my desktop from F21 to F23 using instructions 
online and using 'dnf' to carry out the upgrade.

Unfortunately I don't have the URL of the web page I used, but the upgrade 
worked exactly as indicated and no errors occurred.

After the upgrade and reboot I logged in to find that I was in GNOME.

I tried logging in again using KDE but it wasn't available.  I eventually 
found out that it was no longer installed.  I eventually found the command

dnf install @kde-desktop

which then gave me the option log logging in using the session type 
of 'Plasma'. However, after I log in all I get is a black screen and the 
mouse pointer.  No matter how log I leave it, nothing happens and all I can 
do is Alt+Ctrl+Del to log out

Can anyone give me ideas how to fix the problem. I really don't want to do a 
fresh install unless I have to (feels too much like a Microsoft style 
solution)
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Re: Photo app's -

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 05:23 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 04/12/16 01:25, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I just installed simple-mtpfs and gat 
> > > the following:
> > > 
> > > [root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
> > > No raw devices found.
> > > [root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
> > > No raw devices found.
> > > 
> > You said it is a Nikon S3100?  I just 
> > checked the manual and the camera 
> > should support PTP and MTP.  Check the 
> > output of:
> > lsusb -v -d 04b0:0320
> > It should have lines with "Picture 
> > Transfer Protocol" and "MTP".
> > For example, the following lines are 
> > in the info from my phone:
> >   bInterfaceSubClass  1 Still 
> > Image Capture
> >   bInterfaceProtocol  1 
> > Picture Transfer Protocol (PIMA 15470)
> >   iInterface  5 MTP
> > 
> > Try installing the gvfs-mtp package.  
> > It would be easiest to reboot after 
> > installing that so the system tasks 
> > get started properly.  Then try 
> > plugging in the camera to the USB port.
> > -- 
> .
> 
> I just did:
> 
> [root@Box10 bobg]# dnf install gvfs-mtp
> Shutdown and rebooted the computer.
> 
> lsusb shows: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 
> 04b0:0320 Nikon Corp.
> 
> and no icon comes up on the desktop. 
> °cycling the usb connection and turning 
> the camera off/on shows no difference.
> 
> However "gvfs-mtp" apparently has no man 
> page so I don't know what to expect from 
> it yet?

The fact that nothing appears on the desktop doesn't mean the device
isn't accessible. According to https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs
(referenced from the dnf info on the gvfs-mtp package):

"There is a set of command line programs starting with "gvfs-" that
lets you run commands (like cat, ls, stat, etc) on files in the GVfs
mounts."

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Re: KDE/Plasma not working after upgrade to F23 using dnf

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 10:52 +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote:
> A few weeks back I upgraded my desktop from F21 to F23 using
> instructions 
> online and using 'dnf' to carry out the upgrade.
> 
> Unfortunately I don't have the URL of the web page I used, but the
> upgrade 
> worked exactly as indicated and no errors occurred.
> 
> After the upgrade and reboot I logged in to find that I was in GNOME.
> 
> I tried logging in again using KDE but it wasn't available.  I
> eventually 
> found out that it was no longer installed.  I eventually found the
> command
> 
> dnf install @kde-desktop
> 
> which then gave me the option log logging in using the session type 
> of 'Plasma'. However, after I log in all I get is a black screen and
> the 
> mouse pointer.  No matter how log I leave it, nothing happens and all
> I can 
> do is Alt+Ctrl+Del to log out
> 
> Can anyone give me ideas how to fix the problem. I really don't want
> to do a 
> fresh install unless I have to (feels too much like a Microsoft
> style 
> solution)

Try:

# dnf group install "KDE Plasma Workspaces"

Also, note that KDE on Fedora has its own mailing list where you are
more likely to get useful answers about KDE. See http://lists.fedorapro
ject.org/admin/lists/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Re: KDE/Plasma not working after upgrade to F23 using dnf

[Gary Stainburn]

On Tuesday 12 April 2016 11:26:28 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> Try:
>
> # dnf group install "KDE Plasma Workspaces"
>
> Also, note that KDE on Fedora has its own mailing list where you are
> more likely to get useful answers about KDE. See http://lists.fedorapro
> ject.org/admin/lists/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>

Thanks for this.  It did install a few more RPM's but having rebooted it has 
made no effect.

I'll have a look at the other list you mentioned.

Gary

[root@lcomp5 ~]# dnf group install "KDE Plasma Workspaces"
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'Dropbox' 
from 'http://linux.dropbox.com/fedora/23/': Cannot download repomd.xml: 
Cannot download repodata/repomd.xml: All mirrors were tried, disabling.
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:49:15 ago on Tue Apr 12 10:43:52 
2016.
Dependencies resolved.
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NetworkManager 
dnf-plugins-core  e2fsprogs 
  
sudo   
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how to remove bootloader

[Amadeus W.M.]

I have a pc which initially had a single drive with F23 installed on it, 
running perfectly. Now I just added a second drive and I installed again 
F23 on it, with the intent of using the first drive for data only. So now 
I have two perfectly good F23s installed on separate drives and I can 
boot either one of them. I want to 

1) remove the bootloader from the first disk
2) reformat the system partitions on the first disk
3) keep and expand the data partitions from the first disk

I know how to do 2 and 3, but I need to know how to do 1 without losing 
the partition table. 

The reason I need to remove the bootloader is that by default, the pc 
boots from the first drive. I can display the boot order (F12) and select 
the 2nd drive manually upon boot, and I can also probably change the boot 
order in the bios, but I recon there must be a software way to remove the 
bootloader. 

Does anybody know how to do this? Thanks!

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Re: how to remove bootloader

[Joachim Backes]

On 04/12/16 13:25, Amadeus W.M. wrote:

I have a pc which initially had a single drive with F23 installed on it,
running perfectly. Now I just added a second drive and I installed again
F23 on it, with the intent of using the first drive for data only. So now
I have two perfectly good F23s installed on separate drives and I can
boot either one of them. I want to

1) remove the bootloader from the first disk
2) reformat the system partitions on the first disk
3) keep and expand the data partitions from the first disk

I know how to do 2 and 3, but I need to know how to do 1 without losing
the partition table.

The reason I need to remove the bootloader is that by default, the pc
boots from the first drive. I can display the boot order (F12) and select
the 2nd drive manually upon boot, and I can also probably change the boot
order in the bios, but I recon there must be a software way to remove the
bootloader.

Does anybody know how to do this? Thanks!


This may help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-uninstall-grub/

Pls. see section "Using Linux"

Kind regards

Joachim Backes


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Fedora 22 login screen is slow to respond

[David Aldrich]

Hi

We are running Fedora 22 (64-bit) on a powerful workstation.  At the login 
screen the GUI is slow to respond: the mouse is jerky, particularly when 
hovering over user names, and using the arrow keys to traverse over user names 
sometimes jumps two names for one key press.

Response after login is fine.

Please can anyone suggest the cause of this problem?

Best regards

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do you Eclipse-PHP-xdebug?

[lejeczek]

hi everybody

does debugging using xdebug with Eclipse work for you?
I'm tweaking and tweaking and it always gets stuck @ "Wating 
for XDebug session".
Whether on local or remote server it never gets pass, I'm 
beginning to thing it must a bug.


for sharing thoughts & suggestions,
many thanks.
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Re: Photo app's -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 04/12/16 06:18, Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

The fact that nothing appears on the desktop doesn't mean the device
isn't accessible. According tohttps://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs
(referenced from the dnf info on the gvfs-mtp package):

"There is a set of command line programs starting with "gvfs-" that
lets you run commands (like cat, ls, stat, etc) on files in the GVfs
mounts."

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Well, after a lot of googling and trial 
and error groping around for a command 
that produces something meaningful [to 
me] the best I have achieved so far is:


[root@Box10 bobg]# gvfs-mount -l
Error creating proxy: The connection is 
closed (g-io-error-quark, 18)
Error creating proxy: The connection is 
closed (g-io-error-quark, 18)


It doesn't look like gvfs is the answer 
either.


Bob

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Re: Fedora 22 login screen is slow to respond

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 13:04 +, David Aldrich wrote:
> Hi
> 
> We are running Fedora 22 (64-bit) on a powerful workstation.  At the
> login screen the GUI is slow to respond: the mouse is jerky,
> particularly when hovering over user names, and using the arrow keys
> to traverse over user names sometimes jumps two names for one key
> press.
> 
> Response after login is fine.
> 
> Please can anyone suggest the cause of this problem?

You don't mention which desktop manager this is (GDM, KDM, SDDM, etc.).
The desktop theme may also have an effect. Also, if home directories
are NFS-mounted that could slow it down. You might try logging in on a
console and running 'top' to see if anything jumps out.

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RE: Fedora 22 login screen is slow to respond

[David Aldrich]

Hi Patrick
 
> You don't mention which desktop manager this is (GDM, KDM, SDDM, etc.).
> The desktop theme may also have an effect. Also, if home directories are NFS-
> mounted that could slow it down. You might try logging in on a console and
> running 'top' to see if anything jumps out.

We are running Gnome Desktop Manager with the default theme.

I will check the other things you suggested.

Thanks

David
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How to install gnome-shell-extension-taskbar?

[David Aldrich]

Hi

I am running Fedora 23 with Gnome Shell 3.18.4

I would like to install the gnome-shell-extension-taskbar to make the desktop 
more friendly.

Please can anyone tell me which package I need to install?

If you have any other suggestions for making the desktop easier to use I would 
be interested.

Best regards

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Re: How to install gnome-shell-extension-taskbar?

[Jon Ingason]

Den 2016-04-12 kl. 17:55, skrev David Aldrich:
> Hi
> 

> I am running Fedora 23 with Gnome Shell 3.18.4
> 

> I would like to install the gnome-shell-extension-taskbar to make the
> desktop more friendly.
> 

> Please can anyone tell me which package I need to install?
> 
> If you have any other suggestions for making the desktop easier to use I
> would be interested.
> 
> Best regards
> 
>  
> 
> David

If you have not installed gnome-tweak-tool then you need to do that first.

When you have installed gnome-tweak-tool you start it and then click on
"Extensions" and you get list of some default extensions which you can
activate if you like. For more extensions you click on the link "Get
more Extensions" which open default browser with Gnome Extensions where
you can find TaskBar (if that is your looking for).
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RE: How to install gnome-shell-extension-taskbar?

[David Aldrich]

Hi Jon

> If you have not installed gnome-tweak-tool then you need to do that first.
> 
> When you have installed gnome-tweak-tool you start it and then click on
> "Extensions" and you get list of some default extensions which you can 
> activate
> if you like. For more extensions you click on the link "Get more Extensions"
> which open default browser with Gnome Extensions where you can find
> TaskBar (if that is your looking for).

Thanks for your instructions. I have installed gnome-tweak-tool, clicked "Get 
more Extensions", which opened Gnome Extensions in Chrome. I found TaskBar, but 
don't know how to install it from there.

If it helps, I get a message in Chrome stating:

"Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector 
is not detected."

Can you help me further please?

Best regards

David
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Re: Fedora 22 login screen is slow to respond

[Tony Nelson]

On 16-04-12 09:04:25, David Aldrich wrote:
> Hi
> 
> We are running Fedora 22 (64-bit) on a powerful workstation.  At the
> login screen the GUI is slow to respond: the mouse is jerky,
> particularly when hovering over user names, and using the arrow keys
> to traverse over user names sometimes jumps two names for one key
> press.
> 
> Response after login is fine.
> 
> Please can anyone suggest the cause of this problem?

GDM did that on my computer (in F18?).  I use XFCE, so I switched to its
own LightDM and the problem went away.  I've seen many complaints about
recent GDM versions from people that don't even hate Gnome Shell, so some
other DM may work for you.  Note that GDM currently runs Gnome Shell, which
is pretty bulky.

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Re: How to install gnome-shell-extension-taskbar?

[Jon Ingason]

Den 2016-04-12 kl. 18:51, skrev David Aldrich:
> Hi Jon
> 
>> If you have not installed gnome-tweak-tool then you need to do that first.
>>
>> When you have installed gnome-tweak-tool you start it and then click on
>> "Extensions" and you get list of some default extensions which you can 
>> activate
>> if you like. For more extensions you click on the link "Get more Extensions"
>> which open default browser with Gnome Extensions where you can find
>> TaskBar (if that is your looking for).
> 
> Thanks for your instructions. I have installed gnome-tweak-tool, clicked "Get 
> more Extensions", which opened Gnome Extensions in Chrome. I found TaskBar, 
> but don't know how to install it from there.
> 
> If it helps, I get a message in Chrome stating:
> 
> "Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector 
> is not detected."
> 
> Can you help me further please?
> 
> Best regards
> 
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OK, need to install the plugin "Gnome Shell Integration" in your
browser. I am using Firefox but there should be plugin for Chrome also.
Yes, I checked that the plugin exist so install it and you should be
able to install "Gnome Shell Integration".



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Re: how to remove bootloader

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 12 April 2016, Amadeus W.M. sent:
> I have a pc which initially had a single drive with F23 installed on
> it, running perfectly. Now I just added a second drive and I installed
> again F23 on it, with the intent of using the first drive for data
> only. So now I have two perfectly good F23s installed on separate
> drives and I can boot either one of them. I want to 
> 
> 1) remove the bootloader from the first disk
> 2) reformat the system partitions on the first disk
> 3) keep and expand the data partitions from the first disk 

Have you considered unplugging the drives, and re-plugging them in the
opposite order?  Of course that may entail fiddling with grub so drive 2
is drive 1, so to speak.

An alternative is to leave the bootloader as it is, use it to boot the
second drive with the OS, and simply use the rest of that drive for your
data, etc.  Proportionally speaking, the boot partition ought to small
enough to not worry too much over.

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Re: How to install gnome-shell-extension-taskbar?

[SternData]

On 04/12/2016 12:23 PM, Jon Ingason wrote:
> Den 2016-04-12 kl. 18:51, skrev David Aldrich:
>> Hi Jon
>>
>>> If you have not installed gnome-tweak-tool then you need to do that first.
>>>
>>> When you have installed gnome-tweak-tool you start it and then click on
>>> "Extensions" and you get list of some default extensions which you can 
>>> activate
>>> if you like. For more extensions you click on the link "Get more Extensions"
>>> which open default browser with Gnome Extensions where you can find
>>> TaskBar (if that is your looking for).
>>
>> Thanks for your instructions. I have installed gnome-tweak-tool, clicked 
>> "Get more Extensions", which opened Gnome Extensions in Chrome. I found 
>> TaskBar, but don't know how to install it from there.
>>
>> If it helps, I get a message in Chrome stating:
>>
>> "Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host 
>> connector is not detected."
>>
>> Can you help me further please?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> David
>> --
> 
> OK, need to install the plugin "Gnome Shell Integration" in your
> browser. I am using Firefox but there should be plugin for Chrome also.
> Yes, I checked that the plugin exist so install it and you should be
> able to install "Gnome Shell Integration".
> 
> 
> 
YOu need to do it in Firefox. It won't work with Chrome. 

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Re: How to install gnome-shell-extension-taskbar?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 04/12/2016 08:55 AM, David Aldrich wrote:

I would like to install the gnome-shell-extension-taskbar to make the
desktop more friendly.

Please can anyone tell me which package I need to install?

Try installing gnome-shell-extension-window-list. You might need to use 
the gnome tweak tool to enable it.



If you have any other suggestions for making the desktop easier to use I
would be interested.


That depends entirely on what you consider to be easier.
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Re: how to remove bootloader

[Chris Murphy]

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Joachim Backes
 wrote:
> On 04/12/16 13:25, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
>>
>> I have a pc which initially had a single drive with F23 installed on it,
>> running perfectly. Now I just added a second drive and I installed again
>> F23 on it, with the intent of using the first drive for data only. So now
>> I have two perfectly good F23s installed on separate drives and I can
>> boot either one of them. I want to
>>
>> 1) remove the bootloader from the first disk
>> 2) reformat the system partitions on the first disk
>> 3) keep and expand the data partitions from the first disk
>>
>> I know how to do 2 and 3, but I need to know how to do 1 without losing
>> the partition table.
>>
>> The reason I need to remove the bootloader is that by default, the pc
>> boots from the first drive. I can display the boot order (F12) and select
>> the 2nd drive manually upon boot, and I can also probably change the boot
>> order in the bios, but I recon there must be a software way to remove the
>> bootloader.
>>
>> Does anybody know how to do this? Thanks!
>
>
> This may help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-uninstall-grub/
>
> Pls. see section "Using Linux"

Yes that will work for computers with BIOS firmware.

For computers with UEFI firmware, you can use wipefs on the EFI system
partition, which is typically the first. Confirm with 'blkid' first,
and then use 'wipefs -ab' (man wipefs for more info on the options).
And then you also need to look at 'efibootmgr -v' and find the boot
entry that was pointing to that disk and remove it with 'efibootmgr -b
 -B' or you can just leave everything alone and change the boot
order to explicitly not use the old boot entry.


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Fedora 23 multiple CPU cooling/temp errors every day

[CS DBA]

Hi all;

Daily I see anywhere from 10 - 50 or more of these alerts via abrt. I'm 
running Fedora 23 (KDE Spin) fully up to date on a Lenovo X1 carbon 3rd 
gen. In all the alerts I see that the trip temp was exceeded, and then 
dropped below the trip temp within 1 second.

Below is a sample of the output.

Should I be concerned? If not can I disable the popup alert? If so, 
recommendations? should I consider cleaning & replacing the cpu thermal 
compound?


Thanks in advance




The kernel log indicates that hardware errors were detected.
System log may have more information.
The last 20 mcelog lines of system log are:
==
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Please check your system cooling. 
Performance will be impacted

Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8812080b MCGSTATUS 0
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software 
error.

Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 0
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 1 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb3c2f
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 1 below trip temperature. 
Throttling disabled

Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software 
error.

Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 1
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 0 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb83f6
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 0 below trip temperature. 
Throttling disabled

Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 0 SOCKETID 0
Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61

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Re: Fedora 23 multiple CPU cooling/temp errors every day

[Chris Murphy]

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:41 PM, CS DBA  wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> Daily I see anywhere from 10 - 50 or more of these alerts via abrt. I'm
> running Fedora 23 (KDE Spin) fully up to date on a Lenovo X1 carbon 3rd gen.
> In all the alerts I see that the trip temp was exceeded, and then dropped
> below the trip temp within 1 second.
> Below is a sample of the output.
>
> Should I be concerned? If not can I disable the popup alert? If so,
> recommendations? should I consider cleaning & replacing the cpu thermal
> compound?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
> The kernel log indicates that hardware errors were detected.
> System log may have more information.
> The last 20 mcelog lines of system log are:
> ==
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Please check your system cooling.
> Performance will be impacted
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8812080b MCGSTATUS 0
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software
> error.
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 0
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 1 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb3c2f
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 1 below trip temperature.
> Throttling disabled
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software
> error.
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 1
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 0 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb83f6
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 0 below trip temperature.
> Throttling disabled
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 0 SOCKETID 0
> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61

I think any MCE event shoudn't be ignored. There's just no way to know
if it's bogus or not. I get these on my machine periodically to no ill
effect and there's an upstream kernel bug with no response for years.
I thought it should be true that the hardware itself won't allow an
overheat, either GPU or CPU, and yet these messages suggest otherwise.

What I've been doing is using thermald which you can get from copr.
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/hadrons123/thermald/

However, what I just realized is that it says that 1.5.3 version build
has failed, and yet rpm -q shows 1.5.3 is on my system. And 'thermald
--version' also shows it's 1.5.3 and it's running. But it doesn't seem
to be working or producing the same messages it used to, where it'd
throttle the CPU automatically. Hmmm any wonder why it's seems hotter
than usual. Crap!


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dnf and yum caches

[Paolo Galtieri]

This is a problem that has existed for a long time, and is starting to 
get really annoying.  I'm running F22 and when I do an update the 
directories /var/cache/dnf and /var/cache/yum fill up and there doesn't 
seem to be any way to clean them out.


cd /var/cache
cd yum/x86_64/22

ls -l
total 92
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 adobe-linux-i386/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 adobe-linux-x86_64/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 fedora/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 google-chrome/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 google-earth/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-free/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-free-updates/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-nonfree/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1788 Apr 12 14:04 timedhosts
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 updates/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 virtualbox/

Note that these are all dated today.

cd /var/cache

du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796  yum

dnf clean all
Cleaning repos: google-earth virtualbox fedora rpmfusion-free-updates
  : adobe-linux-x86_64 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates rpmfusion-free
  : adobe-linux-i386 updates google-chrome rpmfusion-nonfree
Cleaning up Everything

du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796yum

No change.

dnf clean expire-cache

du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796yum

dnf check-update
google-earth 58 kB/s | 4.8 kB 00:00
Fedora 22 - x86_64 - VirtualBox 855 kB/s |  61 kB 00:00
Fedora 22 - x86_64  2.7 MB/s |  41 MB 00:15
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Free - Updates   442 kB/s | 226 kB 00:00
Adobe Systems Incorporated   11 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Nonfree - Updates118 kB/s |  60 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Free 653 kB/s | 551 kB 00:00
Adobe Systems Incorporated   11 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00
Fedora 22 - x86_64 - Updates2.7 MB/s |  22 MB 00:08
google-chrome46 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Nonfree  939 kB/s | 170 kB 00:00
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:00 ago on Tue Apr 12 
14:23:42 2016.


du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796yum

Still no change. How do I remove the data?

Any help is appreciated.

Just in case this has anything to do with it this system has been 
upgraded from 19 -> 20 -> 21 -> 22 using fedup.


Paolo
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Re: dnf and yum caches

[Christopher]

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 5:31 PM Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

> This is a problem that has existed for a long time, and is starting to
> get really annoying.  I'm running F22 and when I do an update the
> directories /var/cache/dnf and /var/cache/yum fill up and there doesn't
> seem to be any way to clean them out.
>
> cd /var/cache
> cd yum/x86_64/22
>
> [snip]

I recently just did "sudo rm -rf /var/cache/dnf /var/cache/yum" and it
didn't seem to break anything. Not sure if this is recommended or not.
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Re: dnf and yum caches

[Rick Stevens]

On 04/12/2016 02:30 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:

This is a problem that has existed for a long time, and is starting to
get really annoying.  I'm running F22 and when I do an update the
directories /var/cache/dnf and /var/cache/yum fill up and there doesn't
seem to be any way to clean them out.


"dnf (or yum) clean all" only clean for the CURRENT fedora. Your "du -s" 
commands are from /var/cache, and since you didn't specify walking

down the tree (e.g. "du -hs *"), we don't know which directories under
dnf and yum are sucking up the space.

Since further down in your post you say the machine has gone from F19
through F22, you probably have a lot of cruft left over from those
previous Fedoras. I'd recommend you do:

dnf clean all --releasever=19 --enablerepo=\*
dnf clean all --releasever=20 --enablerepo=\*
dnf clean all --releasever=21 --enablerepo=\*

and see if that helps.


cd /var/cache
cd yum/x86_64/22

ls -l
total 92
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 adobe-linux-i386/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 adobe-linux-x86_64/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 fedora/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 google-chrome/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 google-earth/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-free/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-free-updates/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-nonfree/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1788 Apr 12 14:04 timedhosts
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 updates/
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 14:04 virtualbox/

Note that these are all dated today.

cd /var/cache

du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796  yum

dnf clean all
Cleaning repos: google-earth virtualbox fedora rpmfusion-free-updates
   : adobe-linux-x86_64 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
rpmfusion-free
   : adobe-linux-i386 updates google-chrome rpmfusion-nonfree
Cleaning up Everything

du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796yum

No change.

dnf clean expire-cache

du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796yum

dnf check-update
google-earth 58 kB/s | 4.8 kB 00:00
Fedora 22 - x86_64 - VirtualBox 855 kB/s |  61 kB 00:00
Fedora 22 - x86_64  2.7 MB/s |  41 MB 00:15
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Free - Updates   442 kB/s | 226 kB 00:00
Adobe Systems Incorporated   11 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Nonfree - Updates118 kB/s |  60 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Free 653 kB/s | 551 kB 00:00
Adobe Systems Incorporated   11 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00
Fedora 22 - x86_64 - Updates2.7 MB/s |  22 MB 00:08
google-chrome46 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Nonfree  939 kB/s | 170 kB 00:00
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:00 ago on Tue Apr 12
14:23:42 2016.

du -s dnf yum
154988dnf
5860796yum

Still no change. How do I remove the data?

Any help is appreciated.

Just in case this has anything to do with it this system has been
upgraded from 19 -> 20 -> 21 -> 22 using fedup.

Paolo
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Re: dnf and yum caches

[stan]

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:30:49 -0700
Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

[snip]

> Still no change. How do I remove the data?

I've had good luck with  dnf clean packages  and  yum clean packages.

> Any help is appreciated.

Do you have keepcache=0 in /etc/yum.conf and /etc/dnf/dnf.conf?  If
that is set to 1 it will keep the packages after they are installed.

> Just in case this has anything to do with it this system has been 
> upgraded from 19 -> 20 -> 21 -> 22 using fedup.

Unlikely, unless at some point you set the above configuration option,
and it propagated.
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Re: Fedora 23 multiple CPU cooling/temp errors every day

[Chris Murphy]

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:41 PM, CS DBA  wrote:
>> Hi all;
>>
>> Daily I see anywhere from 10 - 50 or more of these alerts via abrt. I'm
>> running Fedora 23 (KDE Spin) fully up to date on a Lenovo X1 carbon 3rd gen.
>> In all the alerts I see that the trip temp was exceeded, and then dropped
>> below the trip temp within 1 second.
>> Below is a sample of the output.
>>
>> Should I be concerned? If not can I disable the popup alert? If so,
>> recommendations? should I consider cleaning & replacing the cpu thermal
>> compound?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The kernel log indicates that hardware errors were detected.
>> System log may have more information.
>> The last 20 mcelog lines of system log are:
>> ==
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Please check your system cooling.
>> Performance will be impacted
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8812080b MCGSTATUS 0
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software
>> error.
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 0
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 1 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb3c2f
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 1 below trip temperature.
>> Throttling disabled
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software
>> error.
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 1
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 0 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb83f6
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 0 below trip temperature.
>> Throttling disabled
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 0 SOCKETID 0
>> Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61
>
> I think any MCE event shoudn't be ignored. There's just no way to know
> if it's bogus or not. I get these on my machine periodically to no ill
> effect and there's an upstream kernel bug with no response for years.
> I thought it should be true that the hardware itself won't allow an
> overheat, either GPU or CPU, and yet these messages suggest otherwise.
>
> What I've been doing is using thermald which you can get from copr.
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/hadrons123/thermald/
>
> However, what I just realized is that it says that 1.5.3 version build
> has failed, and yet rpm -q shows 1.5.3 is on my system. And 'thermald
> --version' also shows it's 1.5.3 and it's running. But it doesn't seem
> to be working or producing the same messages it used to, where it'd
> throttle the CPU automatically. Hmmm any wonder why it's seems hotter
> than usual. Crap!


Well it appears to be doing something still, if I relaunch it in debug
mode. I guess maybe the new build is just not as verbose as the
previous build, by default. What I still don't get is how the copr
build state is failed, and yet I have that same build installed.



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Re: Photo app's -

[Jon LaBadie]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:25:52PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 04/11/2016 08:43 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >I just installed simple-mtpfs and gat the following:
> >
> >[root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
> >No raw devices found.
> >[root@Box10 bobg]# simple-mtpfs -l
> >No raw devices found.
> >
> You said it is a Nikon S3100?  I just checked the manual and the camera
> should support PTP and MTP.  Check the output of:

I too looked at a S3100 manual and found this strange footnote:

  Notes on Connecting the Camera to a Printer
  • When Auto is selected for Charge by computer, it may be impossible to
print pictures with direct connection of the camera to some printers.
If the PictBridge startup screen is not displayed in the monitor after
the camera is connected to a printer and turned on, turn the camera off
and disconnect the USB cable. Set Charge by computer to Off and
reconnect the camera to the printer.

Perhaps check if your "Charge by computer" setting is auto and turn to off.

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Re: dnf and yum caches

[Rick Stevens]

On 04/12/2016 03:03 PM, stan wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:30:49 -0700
Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

[snip]


Still no change. How do I remove the data?


I've had good luck with  dnf clean packages  and  yum clean packages.


Any help is appreciated.


Do you have keepcache=0 in /etc/yum.conf and /etc/dnf/dnf.conf?  If
that is set to 1 it will keep the packages after they are installed.


Just in case this has anything to do with it this system has been
upgraded from 19 -> 20 -> 21 -> 22 using fedup.


Unlikely, unless at some point you set the above configuration option,
and it propagated.


I reiterate, "dnf clean(whatever)" only cleans the current releasever.
If you are on F22, then "dnf clean packages" will only clean up those
in the F22 directory tree. The F19, F20 and F21 trees won't be touched
unless you specify the "--releasever=" option.
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Re: dnf and yum caches

[Samuel Sieb]

On 04/12/2016 02:50 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

"dnf (or yum) clean all" only clean for the CURRENT fedora. Your "du -s"
commands are from /var/cache, and since you didn't specify walking
down the tree (e.g. "du -hs *"), we don't know which directories under
dnf and yum are sucking up the space.

Since further down in your post you say the machine has gone from F19
through F22, you probably have a lot of cruft left over from those
previous Fedoras. I'd recommend you do:

 dnf clean all --releasever=19 --enablerepo=\*
 dnf clean all --releasever=20 --enablerepo=\*
 dnf clean all --releasever=21 --enablerepo=\*


This won't work as expected.  Dnf won't clean the yum directories, so
just delete /var/cache/yum.  The dnf cache isn't as nicely arranged, but 
the above commands will work.  That will remove all the files, but the 
directories will still be there.  You could also just delete 
/var/cache/dnf and dnf will re-create the directories and continue on.

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Re: dnf and yum caches

[stan]

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:27:26 -0700
Rick Stevens  wrote:
 
> 
> I reiterate, "dnf clean(whatever)" only cleans the current releasever.
> If you are on F22, then "dnf clean packages" will only clean up those
> in the F22 directory tree. The F19, F20 and F21 trees won't be touched
> unless you specify the "--releasever=" option.

You're right.  I just assumed they were gone after the upgrade (I
don't upgrade using the tool; usually just do a separate fresh
install).  Bad assumption, it seems.

I like the other suggestion, just delete all the /var/cache/dnf
and /var/cache/yum directories, and let dnf renew whatever it needs 
the next time it runs. Make sure the keepcache option is 0, and they
will stay clean. No need for the yum directories, and no need for
earlier dnf directories.
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