Netbeans/Chrome Error
Neatbeans version 21 and latest version of Chrome. When I click on "Run Project", I get the following error: error message I know that I can simply click OK and the error has no further effect. My question is, How can I eliminate the error in the first place? Tom
Re: Netbeans and Emmet
Thank you. Emmet is working fine using the version from Github. Tom On 4/24/2024 3:15 AM, John Lavelle wrote: Yes, I am using Emmet in NetBeans 21. I used the version off GitHub, mentioned below. Best regards, John j...@jql.co.uk Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 4:14 AM Michael Bien wrote: this is likely the project you are looking for: https://github.com/emmetio/netbeans it seems to lack maintainers but the last release might still work. Simply download the nbm and try to install it using tools -> plugins -> downloaded -> add plugins -mbien On 23.04.24 22:09, Tom Rushworth wrote: > Sorry, Netbeans version 21. > > On 4/23/2024 4:07 PM, Tom Rushworth wrote: >> Can Emmet be installed in Netbeans? If so, how? >> >> Tom > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Netbeans and Emmet
Sorry, Netbeans version 21. On 4/23/2024 4:07 PM, Tom Rushworth wrote: Can Emmet be installed in Netbeans? If so, how? Tom
Netbeans and Emmet
Can Emmet be installed in Netbeans? If so, how? Tom
Glassfish Java DB
I am trying to start Java DB from Glassfish 7.0.14, but it hangs, nothing happens. Has somebody got it working? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
RAM usage
Why does Java and Netbeans use extreme amounts of RAM for simple apps? Can there be done something about it? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
JSON Simple
Newbie question, how can I use external jars like json simple in a Netbeans project? I have added json-simple-1.1.1.jar to Tools / Library. But import org.json.simple.JSONArray; gives a package not found error. I have already googled. How can I fix that? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Java DB
Hi, I am trying to connec to the Glassfish Java DB sample database. I am getting this error message: Unable to connect. Connection failed: Unable to find a suitable driver (jdbc:derby:/localhost:1527/sample using org.apache.derby.jdbc.ClientDriver). How can I fix that? I have tried different Netbeans versions and I am getting always the same error.
run ant with different jdk
Hello, so NB19 needs Java11+ to run, which is fine. But (for now) I need to run my ant task with Java8, but it seems ant is always launched within the JVM that runs NB. Testing, with Java8, on command line "ant dist" builds my ear, whereas with Java11 I get errors like cannot find symbol javax.annotation.Generated which is probably expected. Running in NB19, I get the very same error, and no setting I found would change this behaviour. Basically, I have the very same question like this one: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70036683/how-to-change-java-for-ant-in-netbeans and none of the solutions works. Any 5ct? Thanks, Cheers, Tom. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Refactoring
Newbie question. I'm working on an HTML project. When I change a file name, Netbeans wants to know if I want to "refactor" or not. What does it mean to refactor? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Live Server Equivalent
Is there an equivalent to VSCode's Live Server for Netbeans? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Migrating NB platform app to maven
Hi Jerome, I would be really interested in this script. Cheers Tom. Am 16.05.23 um 00:01 schrieb Jerome Lelasseux: PS: I used a bash script to automate the migration process as much as possible. When I'm done I'll be happy to share it -there is not much info on the web... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Predefined Variables for File Templates
Only some of them are there. I previously used a variable for project
name. I can't find that one. Thanks for the start. I was just hoping
for a more complete list.
Tom
On 2/7/2023 4:14 AM, John Lavelle wrote:
Scroll down and you'll find them...
Best regards,
John
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:41 AM Tom Rushworth wrote:
I'm sorry but for me that's overkill. I don't need to create a
new template. I'm happy to modify an existing one. Therefore,
all I need is a list of the available predefined variables.
Tom
On 2/7/2023 2:16 AM, John Lavelle wrote:
https://netbeans.apache.org/tutorials/60/nbm-filetemplates.html
Best regards,
John
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 2:42 AM Tom Rushworth wrote:
When creating a file template, I know that there are predefined
variables. For example, ${date}, and ${time}. Will someone
point me to
a list of all the predefined variables that I can use?
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Re: Predefined Variables for File Templates
I'm sorry but for me that's overkill. I don't need to create a new
template. I'm happy to modify an existing one. Therefore, all I need
is a list of the available predefined variables.
Tom
On 2/7/2023 2:16 AM, John Lavelle wrote:
https://netbeans.apache.org/tutorials/60/nbm-filetemplates.html
Best regards,
John
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 2:42 AM Tom Rushworth wrote:
When creating a file template, I know that there are predefined
variables. For example, ${date}, and ${time}. Will someone point
me to
a list of all the predefined variables that I can use?
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Project/File List Font Size
Is it possible to increase the font size of the Project/Files tree that appears on the left of the start page? I'll settle for size but can you also change the font? Thanks in advance, Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: JDK 8 vs 11 JAXB problem
Thanks for your input everybody! I was hoping I could just tell NB to run the ant command with the Java8 JAVA_HOME or any of those variables or properties. I also tried modifying the bin/ant in NetBeans/netbeans/extide/ant to get an export JAVA_HOME but nothing helped. So got the 4 jars from mavencentral and added them as "required in runtime=no" libraries. This works fine. The jenkins build, using Java8 now has has warnings about those libraries, from stray entries in the ant scripts, created by NB, but it doesn't break the build so that's ok for now... Cheers Tom. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
JDK 8 vs 11 JAXB problem
Hello, I'm back to my problem that has hindered me updating to any Netbenas after 8.2... My Application (ear, ejb, war) is still on JDK 8 with an ant build. When I start NB 12.6 with JDK8 runtime, all is fine with the application. But I can't edit; the editor has strange behaviour and reports show a missing method CharBuffer.flip() (just sent a problem report from NB) When I start NB 12.6 with JDK11 runtime, all is fine with NB and editors. But I can't compile: Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: javax.xml.bind.JAXBException in the ant build. So I add JDK8 as a NB platform, and change my project to use JDK8 ... but this seems not to affect the ant build. It still breaks. Seems the ant build does not respect JDK platform setting? Ideas welcome. Thanks Tom. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
migrate EE6 project from ant buiild to mvn/gradle
Hello, I have an ear project with one ejb and one war subprojects, that originates from Netbeans 7.2, using an ant build. I have been unable to upgrade for a long time (after NB8) due to missing wildfly plugin and other troubles, but now I'm up and running with Apache Netbeans 12.6 ! We did that after upgrading our project from wildfly 10 to 25, and this was a very painful process that took over a week, and we had to patch and change all those file in nbproject like build.xml nbproject/ant-deploy.xml nbproject/build-impl.xml nbproject/genfiles.properties nbproject/private nbproject/private/private.properties nbproject/private/private.xml nbproject/project.properties nbproject/project.xml (and all those files 3 times, for ear, war and ejb) all projects refer to libraries either checked in, j2ee standard and/or provided by wildfly (like ../../wildfly-25.0.1.Final/modules/system/layers/base/com/fasterxml/jackson/core/jackson-annotations/main/jackson-annotations-2.12.3.jar) My question is, how can I get out of this situation? Can I move my build to a more modern build system (mvn, gradle, ...) Can I somehow generate mvn/gradle build files from my (working) ant project? If not, what would be a good approach to do this manually? (Theoretically my setup is not so exotic, it's EE6 on wildfly with a few things manually added for wicket, hibernate (für multitenancy), jadira, pdfbox etc) Thanx & Cheers Tom. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Opening older C/C++ projects in NB 12.4
Thanks. This looks like it should work but I’m on a Mac and haven’t been able to get Netbeans run with jdk1.8. I tried it from a shell using the open command and —args and with setting jdkhome as an environment variable but it still fails the validation step. I’m okay with NB11 for what I’m doing despite the lack of support. > On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:48 AM, mez...@yahoo.com wrote: > > To install previus version C/C++ plugin into new netbeans 12.4 or 12.5 you > need to start netbeans with jdk 1.8, if you run it with higher jdks the > validation, during installation, doesn't work. > > A) > eg.: /work1/bin/netbeans/netbeans-12.5/bin/netbeans --jdkhome > /work1/bin/Java/jdk1.8.0_144 > > B) tools->plugin > Enable netbeans 8.2 plugin portal > > > C) go to available Plugins tab > Press chek for newest and will appear C/C++, select it and then install > > > D) > After installation will appear "installation completed successfully" > > > E) > If you go to Installed plugins you can see "User installed Plugins" with > C/C++" > <3e2OkMd0w5FBSSmb.png> > > > After this installation you can use C / C ++ projects like on Netbeans 8. > > I hope I understand your question. > I hope it was useful to you. > Valerio. > > > Il 03/12/2021 12:59, Geertjan Wielenga ha scritto: >> Probably the plugins for C/C++ you had installed previously you'll need to >> install again in 12.4. >> >> Gj >> >> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 12:50 PM Tom Maszerowski > <mailto:tomm...@frontiernet.net>> wrote: >> I just took the plunge and upgraded from NB 11 to 12. When I try to open >> C/C++ projects that worked fine in NB 11 nothing happens. There’s no error, >> NB just doesn’t do anything. Has the project format changed? Do I need to >> re-create the projects from scratch? It’s obviously not the end of the world >> but I’ve got a bunch of projects and would rather not build them all again. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom. >> >> >> Tom Maszerowski >> tomm...@frontiernet.net <mailto:tomm...@frontiernet.net> >> >> >> >> >
Re: Opening older C/C++ projects in NB 12.4
Unfortunately, no. I uninstalled the old C/C++ plugin and installed C/C++ version 1.4 with no change. > On Dec 3, 2021, at 6:59 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Probably the plugins for C/C++ you had installed previously you'll need to > install again in 12.4. > > Gj > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 12:50 PM Tom Maszerowski <mailto:tomm...@frontiernet.net>> wrote: > I just took the plunge and upgraded from NB 11 to 12. When I try to open > C/C++ projects that worked fine in NB 11 nothing happens. There’s no error, > NB just doesn’t do anything. Has the project format changed? Do I need to > re-create the projects from scratch? It’s obviously not the end of the world > but I’ve got a bunch of projects and would rather not build them all again. > > Thanks, > > Tom. > > > Tom Maszerowski > tomm...@frontiernet.net <mailto:tomm...@frontiernet.net> > > > >
Opening older C/C++ projects in NB 12.4
I just took the plunge and upgraded from NB 11 to 12. When I try to open C/C++ projects that worked fine in NB 11 nothing happens. There’s no error, NB just doesn’t do anything. Has the project format changed? Do I need to re-create the projects from scratch? It’s obviously not the end of the world but I’ve got a bunch of projects and would rather not build them all again. Thanks, Tom. Tom Maszerowski tomm...@frontiernet.net
Re: Documentation and Screen Splitting
Thank you. Now I understand. I do not split my window. I just drag and drop a tab on the right side and the screen will split. Tom On 8/11/2021 3:29 PM, Patrik Karlström wrote: With two or more open files, drag the tab of one file and drop it on the right part of the screen, pun intended. Later on, opening new files will appear on the part with the recent active file/tab. Den ons 11 aug. 2021 21:15Tom Rushworth <mailto:tjr...@twc.com>> skrev: OK Clearly I don't know what I'm doing. None of the previous suggestions work for me. I split my window using either the View Or Window drop downs. When I do, the open file appears in both windows and nothing I do changes the content of only one window. Would someone please provide me with a step-by-step. I must be missing something simple. Tom On 8/11/2021 2:19 AM, James Ostrowick wrote: Yeah, this is something I discovered quite by accident. Basically, open the files that you want to have in split mode. (At least two obviously) Then, drag the first file (via its tab at the top) about half way down the second file window. It will highlight in orange. Drop it at that point, you’ll have the two windows open. If you just want a side by side comparison, under the “Window" menu Kind Regards, James Ostrowick On 11 Aug 2021, at 08:10, Tom Rushworth mailto:tjr...@twc.com>> wrote: Is there documentation somewhere that covers the basics of Netbeans? Each time I have tried to find out how something works, I can't find any documentation. My current problem is that I want to split my window horizontally and put a different file in each window. I know how to split the screen, but how do I open a file in either window?? Tom
Documentation and Screen Splitting
Is there documentation somewhere that covers the basics of Netbeans? Each time I have tried to find out how something works, I can't find any documentation. My current problem is that I want to split my window horizontally and put a different file in each window. I know how to split the screen, but how do I open a file in either window?? Tom
Re: Netbeans 11.3 enterprise application
;-) agree /Tom > On 10 Aug 2021, at 11:33, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > Probably the support for Java EE applications should be removed, or made > available as an external plugin since, as pointed out above, the applicable > approach nowadays is to use WARs and REST calls. > > So, rather than it being strange that this doesn't work out of the box, it is > strange that it is in the box at all. :-) > > Gj > >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:17 AM Tom Coudyzer wrote: >> Thanks Pieter! >> >> I agree it’s odd the not working out of the box behaviour doesn’t help to >> onboard people to start using Netbeans. However I don’t know if usage >> increase of Netbeans is one of the goals of the project. I am too new in the >> Netbeans world to have a valid opinion. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> /Tom >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>>> On 9 Aug 2021, at 22:54, Pieter van den Hombergh >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I have build with maven, so independent of an IDE. >>> I needed to change the package format of the ejb module to jar, >>> Then building in the order ejb, web, top project and ear did result in an >>> war file, which should be loadable in a web container like payara. >>> >>> steps I did (after the edit) >>> cd .../myproject >>> mvn install >>> cd myproject-ejb/ >>> mvn install >>> cd ../myproject-web/ >>> mvn install >>> cd ../myproject-ear/ >>> mvn package >>> dir target/myproject-ear.war >>> I would advise using a maven multimodule structure, using a parent pom. >>> That would avoid having to do all these manual steps. >>> >>> But since the project is what the netbeans wizard (even the 12.4 one) >>> produces, it is a bit odd that it does not work out of the box. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 12:15 PM Tom Coudyzer wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Seeking for some help on creating an Enterprise application (with Maven) >>>> via Netbeans 11.3 and AdoptOpenJDK 8 on MacOS 11.5.1 >>>> >>>> I create a new Enterprise application with Maven (Jave-EE 8) and end up >>>> with 4 projects. The wizard starts to compile the maven projects but gives >>>> an error. >>>> >>>> Ignoring this error I clean an build the >>>> >>>> web (module) project >>>> ejb (module) project >>>> project >>>> ear (module) project >>>> >>>> First 3 build with success however when building the EAR I get this error >>>> >>>> Failed to execute goal on project myproject-ear: Could not resolve >>>> dependencies for project com.company:myproject-ear:war:1.0-SNAPSHOT: Could >>>> not find artifact com.company:myproject-ejb:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT -> [Help 1] >>>> >>>> I manage to get it working when I change the EJB dependency and change it >>>> from packing type EJB to WAR in the pom.xml of the EAR module/project >>>> >>>> Sorry if this is a "rookie" mistake or missing something from my side but >>>> would be great to get some understanding why this "out-of-the-box" is not >>>> working and what to do to get this fixed. >>>> >>>> Thank you already and any help is much appreciated! >>>> >>>> /Tom >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pieter Van den Hombergh. >>> No software documentation is complete with out it's source code.
Re: Netbeans 11.3 enterprise application
Thanks Pieter! I agree it’s odd the not working out of the box behaviour doesn’t help to onboard people to start using Netbeans. However I don’t know if usage increase of Netbeans is one of the goals of the project. I am too new in the Netbeans world to have a valid opinion. Thanks again. /Tom Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2021, at 22:54, Pieter van den Hombergh > wrote: > > > I have build with maven, so independent of an IDE. > I needed to change the package format of the ejb module to jar, > Then building in the order ejb, web, top project and ear did result in an war > file, which should be loadable in a web container like payara. > > steps I did (after the edit) > cd .../myproject > mvn install > cd myproject-ejb/ > mvn install > cd ../myproject-web/ > mvn install > cd ../myproject-ear/ > mvn package > dir target/myproject-ear.war > I would advise using a maven multimodule structure, using a parent pom. That > would avoid having to do all these manual steps. > > But since the project is what the netbeans wizard (even the 12.4 one) > produces, it is a bit odd that it does not work out of the box. > > > >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 12:15 PM Tom Coudyzer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Seeking for some help on creating an Enterprise application (with Maven) >> via Netbeans 11.3 and AdoptOpenJDK 8 on MacOS 11.5.1 >> >> I create a new Enterprise application with Maven (Jave-EE 8) and end up >> with 4 projects. The wizard starts to compile the maven projects but gives >> an error. >> >> Ignoring this error I clean an build the >> >> web (module) project >> ejb (module) project >> project >> ear (module) project >> >> First 3 build with success however when building the EAR I get this error >> >> Failed to execute goal on project myproject-ear: Could not resolve >> dependencies for project com.company:myproject-ear:war:1.0-SNAPSHOT: Could >> not find artifact com.company:myproject-ejb:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT -> [Help 1] >> >> I manage to get it working when I change the EJB dependency and change it >> from packing type EJB to WAR in the pom.xml of the EAR module/project >> >> Sorry if this is a "rookie" mistake or missing something from my side but >> would be great to get some understanding why this "out-of-the-box" is not >> working and what to do to get this fixed. >> >> Thank you already and any help is much appreciated! >> >> /Tom > > > -- > Pieter Van den Hombergh. > No software documentation is complete with out it's source code.
Re: Netbeans 11.3 enterprise application
Will do, thanks for the feedback /Tom > On 7 Aug 2021, at 21:02, José Contreras wrote: > > > I just tested this on master and got the same error when trying to build the > EAR. The problem is that the pom files are badly created, to solve this you > will have to rectify the pom files. > You could check the code examples (and the pom files) of the book in github. > > Regards > José Contreras > > El mié, 4 de ago. de 2021 a la(s) 06:20, Wayne Gemmell | Connect > (wa...@connect-mobile.co.za) escribió: >> Don't do it with netbeans. There is no support for that going forward. I >> changed my one to a war and added a few cron jobs. It's now simpler and I >> have less build issues. >> >> Regards >> Wayne >> >> >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:15, Tom Coudyzer wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Seeking for some help on creating an Enterprise application (with Maven) >>> via Netbeans 11.3 and AdoptOpenJDK 8 on MacOS 11.5.1 >>> >>> I create a new Enterprise application with Maven (Jave-EE 8) and end up >>> with 4 projects. The wizard starts to compile the maven projects but gives >>> an error. >>> >>> Ignoring this error I clean an build the >>> >>> web (module) project >>> ejb (module) project >>> project >>> ear (module) project >>> >>> First 3 build with success however when building the EAR I get this error >>> >>> Failed to execute goal on project myproject-ear: Could not resolve >>> dependencies for project com.company:myproject-ear:war:1.0-SNAPSHOT: Could >>> not find artifact com.company:myproject-ejb:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT -> [Help 1] >>> >>> I manage to get it working when I change the EJB dependency and change it >>> from packing type EJB to WAR in the pom.xml of the EAR module/project >>> >>> Sorry if this is a "rookie" mistake or missing something from my side but >>> would be great to get some understanding why this "out-of-the-box" is not >>> working and what to do to get this fixed. >>> >>> Thank you already and any help is much appreciated! >>> >>> /Tom
Re: Auto Popup Completion Window
Gj For me it only appears to be a problem in the HTML section of a PHP file. I will try your suggested fix. Tom On 8/6/2021 12:50 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Can anyone with this issue outside PHP files speak up, please? Gj On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 18:48, Neil C Smith <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>> wrote: On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 15:27, Neil C Smith mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>> wrote: > I can't replicate within an .html file either. However, I certainly > can within the HTML sections in a .php file. And I can understand why > it's annoying. For the HTML in PHP issue, I think this is all that's needed to fix it - https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3094 <https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3094> If anyone can test that change it would be appreciated. Thanks and best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org <mailto:users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org <mailto:users-h...@netbeans.apache.org> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
Re: Auto Popup Completion Window
I'm surprised that you can't reproduce the problem. I didn't do anything special. Just opened an HTML files and typed an a. I haven't fixed it, but I improved it. I turned off the spell checker. Now the pop up at least has something to do with HTML tags. Thanks for trying, Tom On 8/5/2021 2:57 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: I just tried this and I can't reproduce it. It I uncheck for HTML there's no auto popup window. The popup window does show up if I expressly press cmd+space and stays there until I close it with Escape or until I select some option. Maybe this is the odd behaviour you are annoyed by? It is odd: in other languages the popup goes away after a while but for HTML you have the dictionary always suggesting something so once opened the popup never closes. (Though, I suspect this happened before 12.4 too? I dunno). --emi On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:24 AM Tom Rushworth wrote: Using Netbeans 12.4 on Windows 10. I do not want the Auto Popup Completion Window to pop up in HTML and PHP. Other file types OK. I have checked the Auto Popup for All Languages and unchecked it for HTML and PHP. This seems to have no effect on HTML. If I type ul, I get a pop up with 6 variations of ULCER. If I type an a,the window pops up. How can I not get the popup window in HTML? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Auto Popup Completion Window
Using Netbeans 12.4 on Windows 10. I do not want the Auto Popup Completion Window to pop up in HTML and PHP. Other file types OK. I have checked the Auto Popup for All Languages and unchecked it for HTML and PHP. This seems to have no effect on HTML. If I type ul, I get a pop up with 6 variations of ULCER. If I type an a,the window pops up. How can I not get the popup window in HTML?
Netbeans 11.3 enterprise application
Hi, Seeking for some help on creating an Enterprise application (with Maven) via Netbeans 11.3 and AdoptOpenJDK 8 on MacOS 11.5.1 I create a new Enterprise application with Maven (Jave-EE 8) and end up with 4 projects. The wizard starts to compile the maven projects but gives an error. Ignoring this error I clean an build the web (module) project ejb (module) project project ear (module) project First 3 build with success however when building the EAR I get this error Failed to execute goal on project myproject-ear: Could not resolve dependencies for project com.company:myproject-ear:war:1.0-SNAPSHOT: Could not find artifact com.company:myproject-ejb:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT -> [Help 1] I manage to get it working when I change the EJB dependency and change it from packing type EJB to WAR in the pom.xml of the EAR module/project Sorry if this is a "rookie" mistake or missing something from my side but would be great to get some understanding why this "out-of-the-box" is not working and what to do to get this fixed. Thank you already and any help is much appreciated! /Tom
PHP CS Fixer
As a PHP newbee, I thought it would be a good idea to write PHP standard code. To help me do this, I thought I would install CS Fixer because Netbeans has a plug in for it. I read that the best way to install CS Fixer is with Composer. I have successfully installed Composer. But now I'm lost. I have no idea how to proceed to install CS Fixer using composer. Would someone please share some simple instructions on how to proceed? Tom
Font for Projects Panel
When you open a project all your files are listed in a panel on the left side of the screen. Can you change the font used for the file list?? Tom
Re: Emmet
Never mind. I found it. Is 1.4 the latest version? Tom On 7/16/2021 12:23 AM, Tom Rushworth wrote: Maybe I'm just stupid, but where is the download link? Tom On 7/15/2021 10:27 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: 1. Go to the download link 2. Download the release (.nbm file) 3. Start Netbeans 4. Open Tools->Plugins 5. Select the Downloaded tab 6. Click on the Add Plugins. . . button 7. Browse to where you downloaded the .nbm file 8. Select the plugin and click on the Open button 9. Click on the Install button 10. Click on the Next-> button 11. Accept license 12. Click on the Install button 13. Accept self-signed certificate 14. Click on Continue 15. Make sure the Restart IDE Now radio button is selected (it is by default) 16. Click on finish This will restart the IDE and install Emmet. The above is pretty much standard for any downloaded Netbeans plugin (.nbm). I have no idea how to use Emmet. I see it in my plugins list, but I've not read the documentation nor watched the video. I did this on 12.0 (I normally run 12.4), but the note on the release said NetBeans 12.0+. I'm not endorsing nor knocking this plugin. I'm just detailing how to install a downloaded plugin. Caveat emptor. . . . just my two cents /mde/ On 7/15/2021 5:58 PM, Tom Rushworth wrote: That's the problem. The Emmet website gives the impression that Emmet is available. However, there doesn't appear to be any way to install it in Netbeans. Tom On 7/15/2021 8:08 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: On 7/15/2021 4:02 PM, Tom Rushworth wrote: Is Emmet available for use in Netbeans 12.4? Tom It appears to be: https://github.com/emmetio/netbeans/releases/tag/v1.4.0 It doesn't seem to be available on https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/. I've not tried it, so I don't know if it works with 12.4. . . . just my two cents /mde/
Re: Emmet
Maybe I'm just stupid, but where is the download link? Tom On 7/15/2021 10:27 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: 1. Go to the download link 2. Download the release (.nbm file) 3. Start Netbeans 4. Open Tools->Plugins 5. Select the Downloaded tab 6. Click on the Add Plugins. . . button 7. Browse to where you downloaded the .nbm file 8. Select the plugin and click on the Open button 9. Click on the Install button 10. Click on the Next-> button 11. Accept license 12. Click on the Install button 13. Accept self-signed certificate 14. Click on Continue 15. Make sure the Restart IDE Now radio button is selected (it is by default) 16. Click on finish This will restart the IDE and install Emmet. The above is pretty much standard for any downloaded Netbeans plugin (.nbm). I have no idea how to use Emmet. I see it in my plugins list, but I've not read the documentation nor watched the video. I did this on 12.0 (I normally run 12.4), but the note on the release said NetBeans 12.0+. I'm not endorsing nor knocking this plugin. I'm just detailing how to install a downloaded plugin. Caveat emptor. . . . just my two cents /mde/ On 7/15/2021 5:58 PM, Tom Rushworth wrote: That's the problem. The Emmet website gives the impression that Emmet is available. However, there doesn't appear to be any way to install it in Netbeans. Tom On 7/15/2021 8:08 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: On 7/15/2021 4:02 PM, Tom Rushworth wrote: Is Emmet available for use in Netbeans 12.4? Tom It appears to be: https://github.com/emmetio/netbeans/releases/tag/v1.4.0 It doesn't seem to be available on https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/. I've not tried it, so I don't know if it works with 12.4. . . . just my two cents /mde/
Re: Emmet
That's the problem. The Emmet website gives the impression that Emmet is available. However, there doesn't appear to be any way to install it in Netbeans. Tom On 7/15/2021 8:08 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: On 7/15/2021 4:02 PM, Tom Rushworth wrote: Is Emmet available for use in Netbeans 12.4? Tom It appears to be: https://github.com/emmetio/netbeans/releases/tag/v1.4.0 It doesn't seem to be available on https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/. I've not tried it, so I don't know if it works with 12.4. . . . just my two cents /mde/
Emmet
Is Emmet available for use in Netbeans 12.4? Tom
Location in Netbeans to Specify JVM Args
I have a maven Java web project, and I need to pass in a JVM argument to specify the path to an external properties directory. The rest of the team on this project uses Eclipse, and they just add the argument -Dprop.name=prop.value in the server's config. Where does the -D JVM setting go in Netbeans 11.3? I tried Project Properties Configurations and Actions to no effect.
Re: Netbeans 11.2 Spring Framework problem
Great, thanks! On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 7:34 PM Jose Ch wrote: > Hi Tom, > > This PR fix that problem. I tested with both 3.x & 4.x versions of Spring. > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1908 > > Regards. > > Jose > > > El jue., 30 ene. 2020 a las 9:39, Tom M () escribió: > >> When I create a new Java web project with Maven and add Spring Framework >> support and try to build it I get an error message "Failure to find >> org.springframework:spring-framework-bom:jar:4.0.1.RELEASE" >> >> The same is true for the 3.x version of Spring Framework. All I did was >> >> New Project -> Java with Maven -> Web Application and put in my name and >> folder info for the project. >> >> Next I right click the project >> Properties -> Frameworks -> Add -> Spring MVC -> select 4.0.1 and include >> JSTL >> >> As soon as I do that I get a warning on the project. If I expand the list >> of dependencies all look fine except for >> spring-framework-bom-4.0.1.RELEASE.jar if I hover over it I see "Dependency >> not yet downloaded. Build project to correct errors." So I build and get >> the following error" >> >> Failed to execute goal on project REPhotoTours: Could not resolve >> dependencies for project com.mydomain:MyNetbeansProject:war:1.0-SNAPSHOT: >> Failure to find org.springframework:spring-framework-bom:jar:4.0.1.RELEASE >> in https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2 was cached in the local >> repository, resolution will not be reattempted until the update interval of >> central has elapsed or updates are forced -> [Help 1] >> >> I found this solution online >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37625875/dependency-resolution-exception-in- >> netbeans >> -maven-web-application-for-spring-fra/38700407#38700407?newreg=1a731c3515884682a1efef40fe33c3b0 >> >> Which suggested adding type and scope to the dependency in pom.xml. >> >> >> org.springframework >> spring-framework-bom >> 4.0.1.RELEASE >> pom >> import >> >> >> When I do that, it works. This is an old thread so it doesn't make sense >> that Netbeans would have an error in such a popular framework for a few >> years without it being fixed so I think there might be something wrong with >> my configuration. >> >> I'm not that familiar with Maven. Can someone explain what adding type >> and scope exactly does and why it fixes it? Should it work in Netbeans >> without >> that? What should I be looking for? >> >> I'm using JDK-13.0.2 on windows 10 64 bit. >> >
Netbeans 11.2 Spring Framework problem
When I create a new Java web project with Maven and add Spring Framework support and try to build it I get an error message "Failure to find org.springframework:spring-framework-bom:jar:4.0.1.RELEASE" The same is true for the 3.x version of Spring Framework. All I did was New Project -> Java with Maven -> Web Application and put in my name and folder info for the project. Next I right click the project Properties -> Frameworks -> Add -> Spring MVC -> select 4.0.1 and include JSTL As soon as I do that I get a warning on the project. If I expand the list of dependencies all look fine except for spring-framework-bom-4.0.1.RELEASE.jar if I hover over it I see "Dependency not yet downloaded. Build project to correct errors." So I build and get the following error" Failed to execute goal on project REPhotoTours: Could not resolve dependencies for project com.mydomain:MyNetbeansProject:war:1.0-SNAPSHOT: Failure to find org.springframework:spring-framework-bom:jar:4.0.1.RELEASE in https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2 was cached in the local repository, resolution will not be reattempted until the update interval of central has elapsed or updates are forced -> [Help 1] I found this solution online https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37625875/dependency-resolution-exception-in- netbeans -maven-web-application-for-spring-fra/38700407#38700407?newreg=1a731c3515884682a1efef40fe33c3b0 Which suggested adding type and scope to the dependency in pom.xml. org.springframework spring-framework-bom 4.0.1.RELEASE pom import When I do that, it works. This is an old thread so it doesn't make sense that Netbeans would have an error in such a popular framework for a few years without it being fixed so I think there might be something wrong with my configuration. I'm not that familiar with Maven. Can someone explain what adding type and scope exactly does and why it fixes it? Should it work in Netbeans without that? What should I be looking for? I'm using JDK-13.0.2 on windows 10 64 bit.
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
I do not know this list, just subscribed to "test the waters", but after reading this thread I have in general positive impressions, i.e. there was a (mostly) sensible discussion and a solution to "the" bug. Possibly I will join you one day under my real name :) Unfortunately there was some damage within the old bug database, for whatever reason (a bad atmosphere in a corporation which propagated into bug comments? a general trend gnome3-style? whatever) but now the scheme changed, it seems. Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 14:40, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:17 PM R. Diez > wrote:> > > > ...You need to clearly indicate who is an official team member and who > is not, either with a > > project e-mail address, or with a proper e-mail signature... > > In general, that's not desired nor useful - everybody who collaborates > in good faith here is welcome. > > Some decisions are made by the NetBeans PPMC (and the Incubator PMC > currently while the project is in incubation) and then such roles do > matter, you'll sometimes see people voting with "+1 (binding)" to > indicate that they have a binding vote. But even then all votes are > welcome. > > In this case I'll sign with the title that I have here, to help > explain why I'm making these statements - but that doesn't mean anyone > who does not have a title should shut up. > > -Bertrand (incubation mentor for NetBeans) > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
Neil, I was trying to help. I found out numerous threads concerning very diferent IDEs, with a lot of people for which it was an important problem. The tone was not always the best when I was talking about the tone used by Netbeans devs towards their users, but I said that I was sorry for this. Does not matter, you just keep calling me a troll etc. You who raise points like that it can be important for Intellij but not for Netbeans when we are talking about basic, IDE-independent editor behavior etc. I will check if you are an influential Netbeans developer and if yes, I will migrate as soon as possible, because I do not want to use an IDE made by people with an aggressive and probably very biased attitude towards me. Not that I care personally, but for practical reasons like a general help and bug fixes. I would like to thank GJ and Rdiez for their help, insightful remarks and a positive tone. I am not willing to continue this thread, thank you. Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 12:29, Neil C Smith a écrit : > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:00, R. Diez wrote: > > I cannot remember that he said this was an essential issue. > > Well, he did. > > > I only stepped in because I do not like the way the original poster was > been treated. > > And I only stepped in because I did not like how people who are > volunteering their time to this project were being treated! ;-) Let's > keep it civil and constructive, we can all hopefully agree on that .. > > .. the bit that interests me is this. > > > But anyway, now that the project is under Apache, I would find it > interesting to know how the project actually prioritises issues at the > moment. Is there a "board of prioritisers", and who sits there? > > If there is, you're on it! > > > The Ubuntu Launchpad platform has a "this bug affects me too" button. > Bugs with many users get a flame icon. That gives you an indication whether > many people are affected. > > As a long term Ubuntu user I'm aware of this (and unfortunately how > often it also gets ignored! :-) ) but from a UI point of view it's > better. Both the old and new issue trackers have a voting link, but > do users use them, does the project really take account of them, etc. > etc.? Very few people voted on the issue that kicked off this thread > for example. But why? Either it wasn't important, or people missed > the ability to vote on it, or assumed that wasn't useful? eg. did you > not see the issue, or did you choose not to vote on it? > > So, yes, from a web / infra point of view, improving signposting and > visibility of "this affects me too" might be a good thing to work on. > > Best wishes, > > Neil >
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
> Where's your PR, then? > I was going to make it but Jan has already provided a solution. But I understand that as Netbeans is now made on devs' own time, in case of a bug/enhancement I should ask less and participate more.
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
Look Neil, one person called it "the most viewed IntelliJ issue", you called it "essential to *whom*?!", very well, but it is just few lines of easy code, practically zero maintenance. This behaviour is intentional. I am sorry you hate it but there are users who love it. There is no plan to change it. Essential to *whom*?! Doesn't look like that many users were that bothered! Do you see any similarities? Can you show me one case of such an attitude of IntelliJ devs towards their users? And why it matters? Because one day, I may find some other behavior in Netbeans which me (and a lot of others) find troublesome, and which can be corrected with few lines of easy code and an option hidden in some registry, practically zero maintenance. But we we may just be told to go away, because "I am sorry, go away". Why should I risk it? Le mar. 16 oct. 2018 à 14:01, Neil C Smith a écrit : > On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 12:05, Tom Arilla wrote: > > Thank you for the information, but the thread started because of an > essential bug ignored for many years > > Essential to *whom*?! Doesn't look like that many users were that > bothered! > > > By the way, didn't you make a whole database of open bugs obsolete, with > no migration attempts? > > Actually, that's not true. There was a conscious decision not to > migrate everything in it. But the old bug tracker is still there, and > in the last web chat we discussed maintaining a read-only clone of it > on Apache infrastructure. Which I hope will happen, although it > remains to be seen if the content in it flags any concerns for Oracle. > > Best wishes, > > Neil >
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
Hi, I was just contacted by Jan Lahoda who told me that to do! If anyone ever searches for the same thing via google: Netbeans Disable cut/copy line when no selection is made *Bug 192613* <https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192613> solution -J-Dorg.netbeans.editor.disable.no.selection.copy=true I wish Netbeans devs a happy transition and great ideas in making the IDE better. Big thanks Jan! Le mar. 16 oct. 2018 à 13:17, Geertjan Wielenga a écrit : > No, NetBeans is much more than a Java IDE. I am sorry, I can extend this > discussion with more and more responses or I can do what is needed right > now, which is we need to work on NetCAT now: > > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/run/29/v/2 > > The thread started because you had a ridiculously easy thing that needed > to be done and that you haven't done for many years -- you can do so right > now and provide the pull request here: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls > > Gj > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:05 PM Tom Arilla wrote: > >> >> > Just please stop referring to these stupid surveys >> >> Geertjan, do you have a proof that they are stupid? I think not, just >> like I do not have a proof that they are wise. >> >> >>> (do you know anything at all about who filled in those surveys, for >>> example?) >>> >> >> Yes. Look into the link if you want. >> >> -- NetBeans has a community of users and that's who we're focused on >>> supporting. >>> >> >> Netbeans is mostly a general Java IDE. Aren't you pretending a little bit >> that it is not the case? >> >> >>> If there are missing features, file a bug report and ideally provide a >>> pull request to provide the fix. >>> >> >> Thank you for the information, but the thread started because of an >> essential bug ignored for many years. I will provide a patch for it, even >> that I am a bit afraid that it will be wasted. By the way, didn't you make >> a whole database of open bugs obsolete, with no migration attempts? >> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >>> >> Thank you as well, and all the best in making Netbeans better under the >> new formula. Happy transition. >> >>
Fwd: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
> Just please stop referring to these stupid surveys Geertjan, do you have a proof that they are stupid? I think not, just like I do not have a proof that they are wise. > (do you know anything at all about who filled in those surveys, for > example?) > Yes. Look into the link if you want. -- NetBeans has a community of users and that's who we're focused on > supporting. > Netbeans is mostly a general Java IDE. Aren't you pretending a little bit that it is not the case? > If there are missing features, file a bug report and ideally provide a > pull request to provide the fix. > Thank you for the information, but the thread started because of an essential bug ignored for many years. I will provide a patch for it, even that I am a bit afraid that it will be wasted. By the way, didn't you make a whole database of open bugs obsolete, with no migration attempts? > Thanks, > > Thank you as well, and all the best in making Netbeans better under the new formula. Happy transition.
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
Hopefully I was wrong with the "decreasing popularity", Netbeans seems to rebound https://zeroturnaround.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/06-IntelliJ-IDEA-continues-to-dominate-the-IDE-field-768x683.jpg Le mar. 16 oct. 2018 à 10:54, Tom Arilla a écrit : > The advantage of Netbeans is (was?) its clean and organized interface. It > is easy to destroy it with ad-hoc, non consulted decisions. I am spammed > 20x a day with " Compile on save is disabled. It can be enabled in > Project Properties". Who came with that interface? I did disable "compile > on save" to see instantly a list of all compile errors instead of "project > contains errors, run anyway?", a question which I won't even comment. > According to > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32895522/disable-copying-entire-line-when-nothing-is-selected-in-intellij2014-04-gsoc.php > the "copy entire line when no selection" was "the most viewed Intellij > issue". Who just came and remove the option from Netbeans? And told the > people which do not like it "I am sorry"? > > Possibly it is a good idea to concentrate on where Netbeans still shines > and be careful with that. Improve in a consulted way. Devs are different, > not everyone uses Netbeans to build very largr web apps which need "compile > on save" and where almost always statement = single line so copying an > entire line needs a shortcut. Which does not destroy usability for another > dev, not at all, because everyone uses Netbeans to build very large web > apps. > > I can not find the code in question using web search, possibly because the > old forums seem to be gone, but I will look through old source code and > post a patch here. If the option has really been removed and not something > other failed. > > > Le lun. 15 oct. 2018 à 21:06, Emilian Bold a > écrit : > >> Every option exponentially increases the states / configurations one >> needs to handle and invites bugs. >> >> So, often times a product will just not do something by design. See the >> great success of iPhone as a testament to this. >> >> But... we are developers! You can make a case for this feature. You can >> write the patch yourself. You can submit it. And... even if it's not >> accepted in the official build -- you can use your own custom NetBeans >> build! It seems very sad to me that companies/developers/users find it so >> unbelievable that you can actually customize your computing environment. >> With a bit of time or money invested you can tweak your perfect cozy little >> bits, just the way you like them. >> >> IntelliJ is a commercial product. On the forums you are a potential sale. >> This changes everything. Last I checked the open-source Community Edition >> didn't even have a proper Javascript editor (it only had basic syntax >> highlighting) -- the good Javascript editor was commercial only. Oh, how >> would things look if a small fraction of NetBeans' users would invest the >> equivalent of an IntelliJ license (89 - 149 euro/year) back into NetBeans >> development. >> >> --emi >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:12 PM Tom Arilla wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am a longtime user of Netbeans and a submitted of many bugs. I see how >>> practically none of them is ever resolved, so that I do not submit any bug >>> report any more. >>> >>> I am wondering now (as probably many other users, given Netbeans' >>> declining popularity) if to leave, given the (increasing?) number of >>> problems with the IDE. Please help me and explain the history of one of the >>> many bugs, and why it is like that. Possibly it is a representative of the >>> current ecosystem around the development of the IDE. >>> >>> It is here https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192613 and it >>> has 8 years. It is about adding a ridiculously easy option. And about an >>> option which was there, I but one dev representative who commented >>> >>> This behaviour is intentional. I am sorry you hate it but there are users >>> who love it. There is no plan to change it. >>> >>> had probably no idea that an option to disable this "behaviour" was >>> already there, several lines of code which were either removed or are no >>> more functional. I would check it again, but I do not care any more. Few >>> lines, which I would resubmit as a patch, but when I see a dev answer like >>> that above, or how I was once ridiculed when I asked about this bug on the >>> non-existing forum (something about the lines of not fixing it in order to >>> show who rules here), I do not care any more. Someone reopened that bug two >>> years ago, but probably no dev cares any more. >>> >>> IntelliJ is somewhat plagued with bugs, but when I browse discussion >>> forums of IntelliJ, there is something encouraging in all that energy of >>> *helping* the users, of *caring* about them. And we talk about adding few >>> lines of a ridiculously easy code. Which does not even increase the >>> complexity of the UI. Guess which will be my next IDE. >>> >>> >>> >>>
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
The advantage of Netbeans is (was?) its clean and organized interface. It is easy to destroy it with ad-hoc, non consulted decisions. I am spammed 20x a day with " Compile on save is disabled. It can be enabled in Project Properties". Who came with that interface? I did disable "compile on save" to see instantly a list of all compile errors instead of "project contains errors, run anyway?", a question which I won't even comment. According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32895522/disable-copying-entire-line-when-nothing-is-selected-in-intellij2014-04-gsoc.php the "copy entire line when no selection" was "the most viewed Intellij issue". Who just came and remove the option from Netbeans? And told the people which do not like it "I am sorry"? Possibly it is a good idea to concentrate on where Netbeans still shines and be careful with that. Improve in a consulted way. Devs are different, not everyone uses Netbeans to build very largr web apps which need "compile on save" and where almost always statement = single line so copying an entire line needs a shortcut. Which does not destroy usability for another dev, not at all, because everyone uses Netbeans to build very large web apps. I can not find the code in question using web search, possibly because the old forums seem to be gone, but I will look through old source code and post a patch here. If the option has really been removed and not something other failed. Le lun. 15 oct. 2018 à 21:06, Emilian Bold a écrit : > Every option exponentially increases the states / configurations one needs > to handle and invites bugs. > > So, often times a product will just not do something by design. See the > great success of iPhone as a testament to this. > > But... we are developers! You can make a case for this feature. You can > write the patch yourself. You can submit it. And... even if it's not > accepted in the official build -- you can use your own custom NetBeans > build! It seems very sad to me that companies/developers/users find it so > unbelievable that you can actually customize your computing environment. > With a bit of time or money invested you can tweak your perfect cozy little > bits, just the way you like them. > > IntelliJ is a commercial product. On the forums you are a potential sale. > This changes everything. Last I checked the open-source Community Edition > didn't even have a proper Javascript editor (it only had basic syntax > highlighting) -- the good Javascript editor was commercial only. Oh, how > would things look if a small fraction of NetBeans' users would invest the > equivalent of an IntelliJ license (89 - 149 euro/year) back into NetBeans > development. > > --emi > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:12 PM Tom Arilla wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am a longtime user of Netbeans and a submitted of many bugs. I see how >> practically none of them is ever resolved, so that I do not submit any bug >> report any more. >> >> I am wondering now (as probably many other users, given Netbeans' >> declining popularity) if to leave, given the (increasing?) number of >> problems with the IDE. Please help me and explain the history of one of the >> many bugs, and why it is like that. Possibly it is a representative of the >> current ecosystem around the development of the IDE. >> >> It is here https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192613 and it >> has 8 years. It is about adding a ridiculously easy option. And about an >> option which was there, I but one dev representative who commented >> >> This behaviour is intentional. I am sorry you hate it but there are users >> who love it. There is no plan to change it. >> >> had probably no idea that an option to disable this "behaviour" was >> already there, several lines of code which were either removed or are no >> more functional. I would check it again, but I do not care any more. Few >> lines, which I would resubmit as a patch, but when I see a dev answer like >> that above, or how I was once ridiculed when I asked about this bug on the >> non-existing forum (something about the lines of not fixing it in order to >> show who rules here), I do not care any more. Someone reopened that bug two >> years ago, but probably no dev cares any more. >> >> IntelliJ is somewhat plagued with bugs, but when I browse discussion >> forums of IntelliJ, there is something encouraging in all that energy of >> *helping* the users, of *caring* about them. And we talk about adding few >> lines of a ridiculously easy code. Which does not even increase the >> complexity of the UI. Guess which will be my next IDE. >> >> >> >>
Re: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
Hi John, Yes we should be constructive, I am sorry for the tone of resignation. I have written it because I still find that Netbeans has the most clean design and would really want to use it further. I had no idea that something changed in handling the bugs and in the development scheme in general. If it is of any use, I can find again the few lines in question and see why it works no more. A lot of users do not like the functionality as it leads to unnoticed modifications of source code, see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32895522/disable-copying-entire-line-when-nothing-is-selected-in-intellij/32907749
History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs
Hello, I am a longtime user of Netbeans and a submitted of many bugs. I see how practically none of them is ever resolved, so that I do not submit any bug report any more. I am wondering now (as probably many other users, given Netbeans' declining popularity) if to leave, given the (increasing?) number of problems with the IDE. Please help me and explain the history of one of the many bugs, and why it is like that. Possibly it is a representative of the current ecosystem around the development of the IDE. It is here https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192613 and it has 8 years. It is about adding a ridiculously easy option. And about an option which was there, I but one dev representative who commented This behaviour is intentional. I am sorry you hate it but there are users who love it. There is no plan to change it. had probably no idea that an option to disable this "behaviour" was already there, several lines of code which were either removed or are no more functional. I would check it again, but I do not care any more. Few lines, which I would resubmit as a patch, but when I see a dev answer like that above, or how I was once ridiculed when I asked about this bug on the non-existing forum (something about the lines of not fixing it in order to show who rules here), I do not care any more. Someone reopened that bug two years ago, but probably no dev cares any more. IntelliJ is somewhat plagued with bugs, but when I browse discussion forums of IntelliJ, there is something encouraging in all that energy of *helping* the users, of *caring* about them. And we talk about adding few lines of a ridiculously easy code. Which does not even increase the complexity of the UI. Guess which will be my next IDE.
